Yeah I really don't understand why they didn't add analogue collective and rudder control. This could easily be mapped to a joystick so that left stick handles collective and rudder while right stick handles cyclic. Would allow for much more precise control over the helicopter
No worries man glad it helped! Not quite the fully fleshed out support we need especially with the digital on/off collective etc but it’s certainly giving me a great flying experience in the meantime 👍
@@Un1tMedia I've been critical of BI and Reforger since its release, but this update gives me hope. Combined with all the cool mods the community has already produced, I look forward to getting in as many heli hours as in A3. And TrackIR is to be expected at some point, but I really hope they'll throw in VR as well, eventually.
Does it still have that weaird thing where even if the stick is in center the heli is still in the last position you put it in making control not like a flight sim
Not 100% sure what you mean but the hacked in controls with the stick actually work OK for me for the most part, it’s not ideal and a bit fiddly to setup but I’ll take it over keyboard controls until we get native support.
People who say keyboard is fine are the same people who have never used HOTAS, HOTAS is way more fun and realistic, combine it with pedals and oof, best way to fly. I flew keyboard for years but I cant go back.
bro when i use my rudder on a moded chopper the thing starts to shoot rockets... the thing is when i first launched this program it worked fine... i even somehow added a shoting bind on the primary button, i remmeber seeng that fire is on right bump not trigger, but now it is on trigger so when i use rudder it starts to shot, i cant fix it
Yep it’s a problem caused by the limitation of the Reforger control scheme, right anti torque/rudder on the controller is bound to the same control as fire (right trigger) which unfortunately corresponds to right twist of the stick/right pedal. This only really a became an issue when mod Helis started releasing with the pilot fired rockets. The latest exp update has fixed this by changing the binding for the right pedal function, it’s annoying but once again until EXP goes stable we are limited by the lack of ability to rebind controller functions.
Yeah it’s a shame, don’t think I’ve ever seen a game that hasn’t had joystick functionality from the start before, even in beta form. Here’s hoping it’s not far away but to be fair this little hack has really been letting me fly in a similar manner I did from Flashpoint in 2001 and all the Arma series, the Reforger flight model is very simple and forgiving so although the level of control is very basic it seems to work OK 👍
Hey do you know if there is a way to set up a collective control so i can give say 20% throttle or 50% and not just -100% to 0% to 100% throttle. I would like to have more control ove the collective
Sorry man at the moment Reforger only treats collective as either full raise, neutral or full lower, until there is an option in the Reforger control scheme for analogue I’m not aware of any other way to do it.
No problem however I am abroad on summer holidays for another two weeks, as soon as I get back I can do that. I will probably do an updated video when I get back also 👍
Does this still work? I managed to get my keybinds right for the controller, when I start Reforger my mouse does not work anymore (I tried adding it as Controller 2 with no success) and when i start the training scenario with my keyboard, the game crashes..
Still working fine my end dude, not sure what issues could be with it, possibly reinstall the app and see if it helps? Does the game crash if you disable the controller within the emulator?
Hey, how have you got the rudder setup working? I've got rudder pedals which is one axis. I've tried doing the half axis on each trigger but my helicopter spins left with no input, but stops spinning if I put full right foot. I feel it's not sitting at zero but tweaking things I can't figure out how to neutral it.
Add some deadzone to each axis and it should prevent the game from detecting stick input and overriding the mouse and keyboard when you aren’t using the stick to fly.
Yes it’s frustrating indeed, I think the control system in Reforger really needs some work, don’t get me wrong I like the way everything handles and works in game but doing the actual binding is a pain, also not being able to rebind controls on a modern game that has been built with console support in mind is a bit of a let down.
I actually got it to work you gotta keybind the center of the right stick. Works great now. Still need to figure out how to get my Twist to work (rudder + bank)@@Un1tMedia
i hate that my current joystick doesnt work with arma reforger. i cant fly with mouse and keyboard, i need joystick to fly, these options dont work for me still. im a great pilot on arma 2 and 3.....
Yeah man it’s a shame the game didn’t come with decent stick support from the start, aircraft have always been a cornerstone of the franchise and the players preferred control setup should be a given.
Hi, nice video. There's a software called joystick gremlin it allows you to merge multiple devices into one so you end up with a virtual joystick, I guess thats another option. cheers!
Thanks, Sounds cool man I might look into that and give it a try, I want to try setting up my Thrustmaster Steering wheel and pedals and manual shifter for driving the vehicles in game, would be really cool doing logi runs with a wheel and a second player to jump in and out and do the loading etc.
@@Un1tMedia I gave it a try for Starcitizen and it worked, theres a video from a guy called Subliminal where he explains how to do all the config.(very recommended). Glad to help, hope you manage to get it all working I'll try myself to config a 3dmouse and vkb gunfighter (I anticipate sweat and tears ha ha). cheers.
Yeah it seems there are alot of players that this just doesn’t work work for, which is a shame. It is also a shame that for all Reforgers new features one of the fundamental basics has been strangely overlooked.
@@Un1tMediaI appreciate your upload, just we shouldn't even be here with having to use emulators for this, BF etc. Frustrating! I just don't understand the motivation to exclude the native support, surely they would sell more copies of their games?
Yes, you need to add some deadzone to the stick in the x360 ce app, sometimes when centered Reforger detects stick input and switches to controller mode, keep adding a little deadzone to each axis until the stick is not detected when centered 👍
Doesn't work for me i cant find the game and it wont let me change the bind :( would love to see a new tutorials for the latest version of the app if possible :D
me too if only he would reply,im usng joystick but only through steam,cant get the app to load or accept my flight stick to the game,id pay someone to show me !!!!
Pretty sure I just setup each individual direction of my hat to the corresponding one on the stick within the app, I think I bound 4 Positions, 12 o’clock, 3 o’clock, 6 o’clock and 9 o’clock, try that and see how you get on.
Great video thanks for sharing! Do you still play ARMA3 with AFM and analogue bindings at all? Its pretty impressive (not perfect by any means) how well certain things are modelled.
Thanks man, even though it’s pretty basic and I think I need to make an updated one soon. Yes I still play Arma 3 with the Analogue Flight Model but only for Helicopters, when using jets I use keyboard as a compromise as the targeting pod system for bombs and spotting really needs quick inputs with a mouse and keyboard. I love the A3 model and also the extremely easy and forgiving Reforger model, they aren’t the most realistic but they defo make for an engaging game flight experience!
It does that, it does exactly what Reforger would do as soon and you move your xbox controller thumbstick or hit a button, sometimes you may need to add a slight deadzone in the X360ce controller settings which means when the stick is sitting idle it doesn't send input to Arma which will override your mouse control, then you can easily switch back and fourth between the two as and when needed.
i fix now its ok i can use all the only thing is that some butons are same like my right triger is for jaw right and to shoot lol it is pain in the ass to setup i will go with mouse hehe thanks anyway this looks preaty sample if you only fly vanila helli @@Un1tMedia
does it have to be 360 controller or will it work with ps5 controller? i got it going and it sees the joystick and sees a wireless controller (ps5 plugged in) but dont see any wireless controller in the input screen.do you start app and then close it before launching steam? what have you selected as steam controller config in steam arma menu?
Please make a new, complete video about it, step-by-step cuz there's none, and, i failed to setup, just doesn't work in-game, idc why, i put the .exe on the reforger main folder and all.
@devildogentertainment4904 you have to add the game as well as the controller otherwise it will be set to the Xcce app itself and won't have an effect in game. Works perfectly thank you for this video brother
@@wolfetit No problem at all 👍Yeah it's a great little tweak to get you up and running at least until BI have added full support, gives plenty of control over the helis in game and with the hollywood style helicopter physics in Reforger makes for a fun experience!
I do this and my mouse stops working. Looks like you skipped over the details of adding devices. You didn't actually show the required clicks after pressing Add. What am I missing? The bit where you say "find the one taht you want to use in Reforger, and click on Add selected device" is where I think I get lost becaue you don't do what you say, so maybe you miss out the mouse stuff?
the game usually says press enter to get past the splash screen. That changes to press A, but Enter still works. Then there's no mouse and the Peess A and Press B options (including when I'm trying to quit the game) don't work on the keyboard, so I alt-F4 to get out.
Sorry I’ve just seen this now, sometimes if the stick dead zone isn’t big enough the game detects input from the stick and it can cancel out the mouse input, you can dial in the dead zone and sensitivity settings in the app. It’s a bit of a pain and not ideal but it’s really all we have until we (Possibly) get full official support for Hotas, however there’s a chance we won’t see it until A4 which is a shame. Happy gaming
You may need to adjust the deadzone settings in the x360 app and add a slight deadzone to each stick axis, otherwise the game detects and input and switches to stick control even when you are on foot. This is all due to the limitations in the Reforger control scheme and unfortunately a quirk of hacking stick control in via an emulator.
Do you have any other controllers connected to the PC when you are trying to use the app with Reforger? Also make sure to click "enable mapped device" on the tab for the controllers you are using in the 360CE app.
Guys, Remember Arma Reforger is a EA game and is essentially a testing grounds/feedback for dev's while they work on ARMA 4. People playing and loving reforger are begging for more content. And getting helicopters into the hands of the players asap is more important then coding and programming the flight models to support joystick support etc especially when so much can change through the development. In the mean time, use these programs to allow you to use additional hardware, but hating on the dev's for not prioritising support for the less than 1% of players that actually will fly with a joystick isn't a priority as much as I would like it to be.
Which half of the steps are missing? Seems you are in the minority who can’t figure it out from this video as most are getting it to work just fine, also the app that is featured in this video was current at the time so maybe it’s been updated or you downloaded the wrong version?, also why the CAPITALS? Link me your own video when you have made a better and more clearer version 👍
My apologies, the steps are simple and plenty of people have had no problem with this, the app itself comes with its own set of documentation and the setup is the same for any game you use this with, maybe have a read through the manual or come up with a better vid yourself?
Them adding helicopters without joystick support it absolutely criminal imo
Yup. Squad and RS2 did the same thing.
dude its insane...i cant fly without muh stick...its like rubbing my head and patting my stomach lol
sucks
Yeah I really don't understand why they didn't add analogue collective and rudder control. This could easily be mapped to a joystick so that left stick handles collective and rudder while right stick handles cyclic. Would allow for much more precise control over the helicopter
@@blakejake9618 In squad work joystick
"if we were meant to control helicopters with a keyboard there would be one in every helicopter" words of wisdom
Correct, each to there own but it’s stick for me 👍
Great hack. Thanks for sharing! This is what I needed to get myself across the line and start playing Reforger again. :)
No worries man glad it helped! Not quite the fully fleshed out support we need especially with the digital on/off collective etc but it’s certainly giving me a great flying experience in the meantime 👍
@@Un1tMedia I've been critical of BI and Reforger since its release, but this update gives me hope. Combined with all the cool mods the community has already produced, I look forward to getting in as many heli hours as in A3. And TrackIR is to be expected at some point, but I really hope they'll throw in VR as well, eventually.
(also note how more people are playing it since v1.0 than right after release. source: steam charts)
Yeah we have seen a big jump in playerbase over the past few weeks, glad to see more people getting on and enjoying the game! @@jimmydesilva
the best part of the video is teh accent, beautiful :) XD
Haha it’s Marmite man, some love it some hate it, but it’s the only one I got 😂
Yeah it’s like getting punched in the face through me ears.
This doesn’t work for me. My joystick moves the emulator control. But in game. Nothing happens.
same here
This song is so nostalgic!
Does it still have that weaird thing where even if the stick is in center the heli is still in the last position you put it in making control not like a flight sim
Not 100% sure what you mean but the hacked in controls with the stick actually work OK for me for the most part, it’s not ideal and a bit fiddly to setup but I’ll take it over keyboard controls until we get native support.
People who say keyboard is fine are the same people who have never used HOTAS, HOTAS is way more fun and realistic, combine it with pedals and oof, best way to fly. I flew keyboard for years but I cant go back.
Yeah I pretty much agree with this, each to there own I guess but I’m definitely a stick and throttle dude.
bro when i use my rudder on a moded chopper the thing starts to shoot rockets... the thing is when i first launched this program it worked fine... i even somehow added a shoting bind on the primary button, i remmeber seeng that fire is on right bump not trigger, but now it is on trigger so when i use rudder it starts to shot, i cant fix it
Yep it’s a problem caused by the limitation of the Reforger control scheme, right anti torque/rudder on the controller is bound to the same control as fire (right trigger) which unfortunately corresponds to right twist of the stick/right pedal.
This only really a became an issue when mod Helis started releasing with the pilot fired rockets.
The latest exp update has fixed this by changing the binding for the right pedal function, it’s annoying but once again until EXP goes stable we are limited by the lack of ability to rebind controller functions.
The fact that we did get native support kind of pisses me off
Yeah it’s a shame, don’t think I’ve ever seen a game that hasn’t had joystick functionality from the start before, even in beta form. Here’s hoping it’s not far away but to be fair this little hack has really been letting me fly in a similar manner I did from Flashpoint in 2001 and all the Arma series, the Reforger flight model is very simple and forgiving so although the level of control is very basic it seems to work OK 👍
@@Un1tMedia well even arma 3 came with native hotas profiles for Logitech and thrustmaster. But yeah it’s a shame hopefully soon
Hey do you know if there is a way to set up a collective control so i can give say 20% throttle or 50% and not just -100% to 0% to 100% throttle. I would like to have more control ove the collective
Sorry man at the moment Reforger only treats collective as either full raise, neutral or full lower, until there is an option in the Reforger control scheme for analogue I’m not aware of any other way to do it.
I’ve tried this with an extreme pro Logitech (old as fuck one) can’t get it to work unfortunately
Great video. Thanks for being extremely concise.
Glad it was helpful!
Trying to get mine setup but with same software, could you send a screenshot of your key binds? I’m getting confused with the axis settings
No problem however I am abroad on summer holidays for another two weeks, as soon as I get back I can do that. I will probably do an updated video when I get back also 👍
Does this still work? I managed to get my keybinds right for the controller, when I start Reforger my mouse does not work anymore (I tried adding it as Controller 2 with no success) and when i start the training scenario with my keyboard, the game crashes..
Still working fine my end dude, not sure what issues could be with it, possibly reinstall the app and see if it helps? Does the game crash if you disable the controller within the emulator?
sound is from predator movie!!! nice
Spot on, one of the greatest!
Hey, how have you got the rudder setup working? I've got rudder pedals which is one axis. I've tried doing the half axis on each trigger but my helicopter spins left with no input, but stops spinning if I put full right foot. I feel it's not sitting at zero but tweaking things I can't figure out how to neutral it.
how do you turn it on and off?? now my mouse doesn’t work for picking loadouts or navigating the menus
Add some deadzone to each axis and it should prevent the game from detecting stick input and overriding the mouse and keyboard when you aren’t using the stick to fly.
It's too bad that you cant rebind the ingame settings on the controller. It'd be a neat idea to use the triggers as the collective up/down.
Yes it’s frustrating indeed, I think the control system in Reforger really needs some work, don’t get me wrong I like the way everything handles and works in game but doing the actual binding is a pain, also not being able to rebind controls on a modern game that has been built with console support in mind is a bit of a let down.
I actually got it to work you gotta keybind the center of the right stick. Works great now. Still need to figure out how to get my Twist to work (rudder + bank)@@Un1tMedia
You can if you plug in a controller via usb and remap the buttons with it.
i hate that my current joystick doesnt work with arma reforger. i cant fly with mouse and keyboard, i need joystick to fly, these options dont work for me still. im a great pilot on arma 2 and 3.....
Yeah man it’s a shame the game didn’t come with decent stick support from the start, aircraft have always been a cornerstone of the franchise and the players preferred control setup should be a given.
Hi, nice video. There's a software called joystick gremlin it allows you to merge multiple devices into one so you end up with a virtual joystick, I guess thats another option. cheers!
Thanks, Sounds cool man I might look into that and give it a try, I want to try setting up my Thrustmaster Steering wheel and pedals and manual shifter for driving the vehicles in game, would be really cool doing logi runs with a wheel and a second player to jump in and out and do the loading etc.
@@Un1tMedia I gave it a try for Starcitizen and it worked, theres a video from a guy called Subliminal where he explains how to do all the config.(very recommended). Glad to help, hope you manage to get it all working I'll try myself to config a 3dmouse and vkb gunfighter (I anticipate sweat and tears ha ha). cheers.
So many games are not adding joystick support these days. Really pissing me off. And this app doesn't recognise my hotas.
Yeah it seems there are alot of players that this just doesn’t work work for, which is a shame.
It is also a shame that for all Reforgers new features one of the fundamental basics has been strangely overlooked.
@@Un1tMediaI appreciate your upload, just we shouldn't even be here with having to use emulators for this, BF etc. Frustrating! I just don't understand the motivation to exclude the native support, surely they would sell more copies of their games?
Great video, very helpful
Cheers man, always like to showcase those great mods and help people get more from the game!
Do I need to connect my controller and the HOTAS aswell like which download is for series s
At the moment this is for PC only dude, as I use PC exclusively I am unsure if there is anyway to use a stick with the Xbox version of the game.
@@Un1tMedia I have a Hotas, but no Xbox Controller, my system detects it, but in the game it won't enable the controller settings any suggestions?
Ao usar esse método o meu mouse para de funcionar dentro do Arma Reforger alguma dica para resolver isso?
Yes, you need to add some deadzone to the stick in the x360 ce app, sometimes when centered Reforger detects stick input and switches to controller mode, keep adding a little deadzone to each axis until the stick is not detected when centered 👍
Doesn't work for me i cant find the game and it wont let me change the bind :( would love to see a new tutorials for the latest version of the app if possible :D
me too if only he would reply,im usng joystick but only through steam,cant get the app to load or accept my flight stick to the game,id pay someone to show me !!!!
Hey man, I have problems with the right stick. It's stuck in the bottom-right corner. How did you set up your POV hat and have it in the middle?
Pretty sure I just setup each individual direction of my hat to the corresponding one on the stick within the app, I think I bound 4 Positions, 12 o’clock, 3 o’clock, 6 o’clock and 9 o’clock, try that and see how you get on.
Great video thanks for sharing! Do you still play ARMA3 with AFM and analogue bindings at all? Its pretty impressive (not perfect by any means) how well certain things are modelled.
Thanks man, even though it’s pretty basic and I think I need to make an updated one soon.
Yes I still play Arma 3 with the Analogue Flight Model but only for Helicopters, when using jets I use keyboard as a compromise as the targeting pod system for bombs and spotting really needs quick inputs with a mouse and keyboard.
I love the A3 model and also the extremely easy and forgiving Reforger model, they aren’t the most realistic but they defo make for an engaging game flight experience!
ok i manage to set up i can use stick in game but its owerride al controls so i cant use mouse lol
It does that, it does exactly what Reforger would do as soon and you move your xbox controller thumbstick or hit a button, sometimes you may need to add a slight deadzone in the X360ce controller settings which means when the stick is sitting idle it doesn't send input to Arma which will override your mouse control, then you can easily switch back and fourth between the two as and when needed.
i fix now its ok i can use all the only thing is that some butons are same like my right triger is for jaw right and to shoot lol it is pain in the ass to setup i will go with mouse hehe thanks anyway this looks preaty sample if you only fly vanila helli
@@Un1tMedia
mybe if you know how to unbind butons for controler in game@@Un1tMedia
i dont understand why is not working for me ans in help option on program said that i need to instal in folder
does it have to be 360 controller or will it work with ps5 controller? i got it going and it sees the joystick and sees a wireless controller (ps5 plugged in) but dont see any wireless controller in the input screen.do you start app and then close it before launching steam? what have you selected as steam controller config in steam arma menu?
Please make a new, complete video about it, step-by-step cuz there's none, and, i failed to setup, just doesn't work in-game, idc why, i put the .exe on the reforger main folder and all.
It shoukd work just fine brother with his explanation
the program doesnt work its just greyed out and doesnt let me add a controller id love an updated video this is lterally the only one
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hmm. I have errors every time I try to launch it, the xbox software
Strange it worked first time without issue for me, correct version for your operating system downloaded and running as an admin?
@@Un1tMedia so for me it seems to be working...but the problem is when im in game it doesnt do do it. but i see it in the program working
@devildogentertainment4904 you have to add the game as well as the controller otherwise it will be set to the Xcce app itself and won't have an effect in game. Works perfectly thank you for this video brother
@@wolfetit gotchu!!! That’ll help as well, thank you
@@wolfetit No problem at all 👍Yeah it's a great little tweak to get you up and running at least until BI have added full support, gives plenty of control over the helis in game and with the hollywood style helicopter physics in Reforger makes for a fun experience!
Do you mix the joystick with keyboard or you are using only one device to all commands?
Nice video bro!
All of the main hello flight controls are handled via the stick dude, certain things like lights and engine on/off I just use keyboard for.
tried it but does not work at all
I do this and my mouse stops working. Looks like you skipped over the details of adding devices. You didn't actually show the required clicks after pressing Add. What am I missing? The bit where you say "find the one taht you want to use in Reforger, and click on Add selected device" is where I think I get lost becaue you don't do what you say, so maybe you miss out the mouse stuff?
the game usually says press enter to get past the splash screen. That changes to press A, but Enter still works.
Then there's no mouse and the Peess A and Press B options (including when I'm trying to quit the game) don't work on the keyboard, so I alt-F4 to get out.
Found by adding mouse as controlelr 2 then removing it, i got the mouse back. have flown in game now :)
Sorry I’ve just seen this now, sometimes if the stick dead zone isn’t big enough the game detects input from the stick and it can cancel out the mouse input, you can dial in the dead zone and sensitivity settings in the app. It’s a bit of a pain and not ideal but it’s really all we have until we (Possibly) get full official support for Hotas, however there’s a chance we won’t see it until A4 which is a shame. Happy gaming
@@fingerducki’m having issues navigating menus and loadout screens cause the mouse pointer is gone, any pointers for this?
scotland forever, lad, thank you
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The whole game switches to controller input. So no more mouse and keyboard input anymore.
This sucks because all the controls even after you get out of the chopper are still pretending your using a controller to play.
You may need to adjust the deadzone settings in the x360 app and add a slight deadzone to each stick axis, otherwise the game detects and input and switches to stick control even when you are on foot.
This is all due to the limitations in the Reforger control scheme and unfortunately a quirk of hacking stick control in via an emulator.
For some reason it’s not connecting with my game
Have you got any other controllers connected?
Does this work on xbox?
Not as far as I'm aware dude as you need to be able to download and install the 3rd party app on Microsoft Windows.
yea i dont think this works, iver tried mapping ..no luck.. ihave the logitech x56 hotas
Do you have any other controllers connected to the PC when you are trying to use the app with Reforger? Also make sure to click "enable mapped device" on the tab for the controllers you are using in the 360CE app.
@@Un1tMedia OML You legend I had my Xbox controller connected ☠️☠️☠️☠️
@@devildogentertainment4904 Excellent 👍 glad you got it working, let me know how you get on and your thoughts of using stick control in Reforger!
@@Un1tMedia😂 I loved it so far! And now the new gunships?!! It’s sex!! 😂
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Guys, Remember Arma Reforger is a EA game and is essentially a testing grounds/feedback for dev's while they work on ARMA 4. People playing and loving reforger are begging for more content. And getting helicopters into the hands of the players asap is more important then coding and programming the flight models to support joystick support etc especially when so much can change through the development.
In the mean time, use these programs to allow you to use additional hardware, but hating on the dev's for not prioritising support for the less than 1% of players that actually will fly with a joystick isn't a priority as much as I would like it to be.
It's not EA game
@@bengvideos572
You're right, it's not a game. It's a tech demo
straight up just doesnt work. 1000s of error messages you failed to explain like half the steps and the app looks different. NOT WORKING.
Which half of the steps are missing?
Seems you are in the minority who can’t figure it out from this video as most are getting it to work just fine, also the app that is featured in this video was current at the time so maybe it’s been updated or you downloaded the wrong version?, also why the CAPITALS? Link me your own video when you have made a better and more clearer version 👍
i download for 46 bit games i willl try download for all games
46 bit. that's those new games that only work some of the time. :)
BUT I HAVE AN PC.......
Keyboard in a heli 😂
Fkn Keyboard warriors 🤣
@@Un1tMedia lol, well said!! There's always some complete bawbag telling everyone that keyboard and mouse is better for vehicles of every description.
I guess it's about what works for the individual but Keyboard defo ain't for me. @@burtleboeuf1429
Far from easy, very poor instructional video.
My apologies, the steps are simple and plenty of people have had no problem with this, the app itself comes with its own set of documentation and the setup is the same for any game you use this with, maybe have a read through the manual or come up with a better vid yourself?