Return of Bharat I India Or Bharat I Bharatiya Grand Narrative I Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan I Aadi
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Maj Gen Rajiv Narayanan has given me the Bharatiya blueprint 🙏🏻
Thanks Aadi and team 😊
Some good books to read :
1) "Being Different - An Indian challenge to Western Universalism" by Rajiv Malhotra
2) "The Lost River - On the trail of the Saraswati" by Michel Danino
3) "Land of the Seven Rivers - a brief history of India's geography" by Sanjeev Sanyal
4) "The Ocean of Churn - how the Indian Ocean shaped Human History" by Sanjeev Sanyal
5) "Revolutionaries - the Other Story of how India win it's freedom" by Sanjeev Sanyal
6) "The Great Game - on secret service in High Asia" by Peter Hopkirk
7) "The Illustrated History of South India - from prehistoric times to the fall of Vijayanagar" by Nilakanta Sastri
8) The Arthashastra by Kautilya Penguin classics.
Please add the book Satyarthaprakash by Swami Dayanand Saraswati to your list.
Bow down to Acharya Rajiv Narayanan for such a deeply researched presentation.
Lots of thanks to Maj Gen Rajive Narayanan for sharing his knowledge and wisdom... and Aadi also ...
I am spell bound by the depth of thoughtand vision of Gen Rajeev narayanji and giving sucj abundant hisyory in capsule form hats of to you sir, mr aadi you too deseve kudos for your efforts to bring in such great mind
😮 General sir not going to be there for three weeks..!!
Got so addicted to his brilliant talks.
1. I will watch it multiple times.
2. I will share it my friends and family. My dad is a govt. teacher, I will ask him to play this video in his school.
3. Will write blog about it and post it, so my friends would read it. They wont watch a video that is ~2 hour long.
4. This same topic should be brought up in BEER BICEPS podcast, VAAD podcast, ANI podcast, THE JD talks, The infinity foundation channel etc.., It has to reach to maximum number of people in our country.
Thank you 🙏
"जन गण मन अधिनायक जय हे, भारत भाग्य विभाता", हम भारत हैँ " यदा यदा हि धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारता" हम गीता के समय के वहुत पहले ही भारत हैँ । और भारत का वही भाग्य विभाता है जो गीता के समय था । रविंद्र नाथ ठाकुर का मूल राष्ट्र गीत मे ये पँक्तियाँ हैँ " पतन अभ्युदय वँधुर पँथा, युग युग धावत यात्री । हे चिर सारथि, तव रथचक्रे मुखरित पथ दिन रात्री । दारूण विप्लव माँझे, तव शँखध्वनि बाजे, शँकटदुख त्राता " । हमारा राष्ट्रगान भारत का गान है जो वास्तव मेँ उस "चिरसारथी" कृष्ण की स्तुति है जिसे भारत भाग्य विधाता कहा गया है । उस कविता को किस तरह एक मुस्लिम ने काट पीट कर छोटा किया यह भी एक गजब ही है ।
Such a glorious Itihaas.Proud to be a Bharatiya.❤🙏🇮🇳🕉🙏
Wow..just wow...thank you Gen sir🙏🙏
for your service to the motherland.
Sir you are right about Vasishta. I want to add a point to it. Vasishta was a Guru Shishya parampara just like we have Shankaracharya today.
Also, Janaka, father of Sita and Janaka mentioned in Ashtavakra were different kings ruling the same kingdom at different times.
Keep up the good work Aadi.
Your podcasts are brilliant. I share your links to my family and friends all the time. 🌺🙏🌺
No no , don't change duration of vidio, we are come hear to learn, what we learn in 1 hour, at that place u can speed up 1:5x 2x . Plz 🙏 sir don't make it like other TH-cam channel.
Maj. Gen Rajiv 🙏 Simply superb,
ಜಯ ಭಾರತ ಜನನಿಯ ತನುಜಾತೆ, ಜಯ ಹೇ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ಮಾತೆ.....This song is aptly composed that echoes bharatiya sentiments of a kannadiga.
1.4B people MUST watch this video.
Let me tell you something. Certain communities in Tamil Nadu already knew this history of Bharath though not taught in school books. Because our Cholas were running democratic foreign governments as far away as Malaysia..and Of course people read and attend Mahabharata lectures done in temples and Mutts almost every year through Bhagavatha Purana. I have attended at least 5 times these 10-12 day lectures every year.. and the pundits explain the expanse of the rajyas that were part of Kurukshetra war.
Whether others believe it or not we don't have to worry. We should feel proud as well as responsibility of our heritage to uphold it and keep up our heads proudly.
The slide dasarajna perfectly ties Puri to probable present day Peru ? I don't know..
Maj. Gen Rajiv is outstanding in his research and presentation of facts...crisp as a seasoned army veteran, bhakt as s on of the soil. BTW, abroad, I always introduce myself as a Bharatiya...and gora professors would be surprised which country's nationality that is. Always gave me good 1 minute to politely, gently rip Brits apart and explain my grand origin. And not even once it happened that 3-5 people would come around to learn more about Bharat. Jai Hind
Awesome. I shall do so from now on. And what exactly do you explain them? Appreciate if you can give some talking points.
Let's be our ancient heritage of identity named "Bharatvarsh"
Great factual discussion very enlightening to our younger generations Maj-Gen Rajiv Narayanan.. Bravo sir, you spoke the truth about our great Bharatiya history I had studied most of your lecture in some great libraries & it was easy to visualise & understand your talks on all the subjects including the Saraswat valley civilization & the explosion in mohan-jardeo the radiation etc yet the answer is yet to be found except if there was time travel into the past..or except our present great yogic sages who could go back in time to get us the answer.
Bharath= sanatani hindus rule
Hindustan= Muslim rule
India= christian rule
Everything in bharathavarsh or the Maha bharath ie that ONLY LAND on earth where all 3 major religions ruled and their respective effects upon its subjects is evident for everyone (entire world) to see and learn.
Next level discussion 👍👍
Sir, Please invite Mr. Praveen Mohan in your show. He has done a deep research on our ancient temples.
there is no research it is just speculation… just looking at a carving and saying this is an aeroplane is bullshit not research ..
गुरू-कुल जहाँ सिर्फ गुरु का कुल होता था।
One of the best discussion so far on this channel…
already checking out the hindi - sanskrit version of arthashastra
I haven't heard such great ideas from anyone. Hopefully some one from Modi gov should listen.
This video should be shown in school, colleges and must be debated. Our constitution is very weak and we need to overhaul it, change the laws, remove the roat within the institution , education, political space etc.
Thank you so much
Its an interesting talk similarly ved veer arya actually covered it in full with deep research
He also explained in details about how the whole timeline got shifted and how the narrative got build .
However Ved veer focused more on the pure history and political implication and General's talk was more on the side of what to about this ancient knowledge today and learn from it .
There was migration from africa due to climatic crisis at around 100 thousand year ago as they migrated they slowly reached India and on the way few people settled at various locations like syria ,persia etc . they shouldnt be called as humans per say because they werent exactly different from animals .
They have no language , culture or no knowledge of self and beyond .
You can easily find that in various genetic studies that migration happened but we didnt have our critical thinking ability and we actually developed it around 50-60 thousand years ago .
And coincidentally same thing is mentioned in the shiv purana that adi yogi walked the earth that time and he discovered a way to enhance human consciousness called "yoga" scriptures clearly mentions he walked at earth at that time .
Agamas become the so called followed religion with purpose of raising our consciousness ,but we were still in ice age at that time and the ice age started to end at around 20-25 thousand years ago ... again mention of the story how great floods would come and shifting away from shore was what needs to be done .(whole matasya avatar story)
Hence lot early rig vedic hymns are about self reflection .... who am i , why am i ,where am i ?
Ice age ended and earth got heated ...many rivers were formed everywhere and slowly we multiplied in numbers but resources weren't enough yet ,,, that's when finally at around 16 thousand years ago monsoon started and varsha finally made India the holy land of humanity . We now multiplied in numbers in exponentially as we expanded and at last we created the first civilization at around 13-14 thousand years ago .. by Brahma another of our ancestor .
As they expanded the civilization , Daksha the decendant of brahma got in conflict with agamas followers of shiva the older power ,hence the whole conflict story .
Thats why you see seal of pashupati in yoga pose everywhere from Indus to argentina . (9000 year old mumified man sitting meditating found there)
At around 10k year ago sarswati was at it peak and that when the humanity expanded ,
Eventually we multiplied too much and resources weren't enough anymore from there on wars broke out and defeated kings were expelled to harsh north thus starting lineage critical thinking humans at those places .
Same time agastya saint went to tamil nadu and created tamil language ,he was also follower of shiva /agamas .
Agriculture was wide spread at this time .
At around 8000 years ago whites finally came into existence (they are pretty new in the game actually ) due to suitable climate conditions and earth heating up
At around 7000 years defeated kings created new empire and we have Persia which created avestha a so-called asura kingdom and devas of saraswati fought for the resources and fertile plains .
Asuras are actually good guys in there culture .
From there on battles were waged but we keep on progressing technologically and finally we were at peak at around 5000 years ago when we had massive docks and we were sailing to australia (indian dna travelled to australia at that time specially dogs ) .
From damscus steel to textile to construction to city planning we were the best .
But eventually whole world resources wasn't enough .
This was the time where initial reaction was to suppress a group of people ... aka working class this was the pivot point where varna slowly turned into caste (this is actually happening in America right now , you have to be elite to get a college degree in a way a caste system is getting developed there )
Finally , a massive war happened and everything was destroyed .
Hierarchy was established and knowledge slowly stagnated ,people started hiding knowledge and whole india turned to darkness slowly .
Obviously few geniuses like aryabhatta ,sushrutha and panini were born but it wasnt enough , infact aryabhatta clearly wrote that i am re-writing the knowledge because knowledge is getting lost .
From there cameup various principalities and stuff introduction of democracy and stuff from this point onwards i think general has covered the most part what happened after the war .
Jain literature actually explains a lot of this stuff related to Indra ,vashistha and all very realistically . Infact jain temple was desecrated in 1935 by British because germans wanted to steal that knowledge .
A russian lady who founder of theosophical society (annie besant was its member ), travelled to India because she was frequently seeing dreams about the India .
As you read more and more ... things keep getting stranger and stranger
Well .. how giants , vanars , dwarfs etc . also had there own stories . A real giant photo in egypt was photographed in 1900s i guess and dwarfs still exist even today .
Ahh .. dammit i wanted to watch the movie but ended up writing this somehow.
Aadiji..more sessions with Sir..like this one👌👌👌👌
An engrossing talk..Request all Bharatiyas to Read the complete works of Swami Vivekananda..language might be a little difficult..after that read Sri Aurobindo..i am stuck with my first book😅..its too difficult to comprehend...there's also evolution..Sri Aurobindo speaks of evolution of man from man to superman.. of course the joker in the pack for mankind is AI..some years ago Facebook chatbots running on AI created their own language to communicate among themselves to bypass their human supervisor..I have no doubt about the greatness & age of our ancient civilization..but will we thrive or survive AI especially when the likes of Billy the Goat is investing in it..i request General Narayan to talk about AI after his vacation..also one part of our culture has been completely wiped down & that is that of Anwesham..or possessed by a deity..in Himachal villages its still there..nowadays most people say that its superstition..my theory of Ancient temples being built with extreme precision is because of Anwesha..the master scupltors or architects being possessed& guided by supernatural beings..anyways current scenario in Bharata does not allow for what General Narayan is suggesting..after all we are in Kali Yuga..but again certain masters like Yogananda have said that Kaliyuga is over..
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Need more and more such enlightening thinking kind of discussions. Thanks to Rajiv ji and to you Aadi.
All things discussed here word by word MUST BE implemented to get results. Everything stated here carries a lot of weight and value. There is no mistake or flaw to be found here. Government must go in for an action plan of achieving desired results within a specific time frame to a specific point that is going to be implemented and not generalise all points under a common plan.
Hi General Narayanan and Adi
I am scientist from TIFR which you might know, perhaps, is part of DAE. I have retired more than 10 years back.
Just like Narayan ji, I also discovered these aspects our history myself via friends and internet, partly while visiting USA, mostly after I retired.
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( It is fate of our generation).
Still I got some new info General saheb from your lecture. Enjoyed very much.
I was just wondering have you given any input of this kind to law commission or home ministry to incorporate these ideas in the so called UCC.
Your whole lecture is what we should have as UCC.
I did write to them, almost similar views ( though with much less details) but with the same theme. Dharma is our basic civil code and all should be asked to follow it. It has to be modernized as you mention. It has nothing against abrahmic religion. Religion and dharma should be separated. We are dharma followers, we do not have any religion. These points I mentioned.
You must be much more influential in moving govt to these basic structural changes. Govt has plans also for UCC. So this is the right time to try to move it in right direction.
Please try..
Want to hear more and more like this
Also , panini sanskrit is good for generative models , its wrong to say its good for computers .. computers work in 0's and 1's .
When computer scientist says that sanskrit is best what they means was if we want to create a tool like chatgpt it would be 10 times more efficient with sanskrit . we are still far from generative models though .
Sanskrit is in a way best tool of communication between computer (who work with 0s and 1s ) and humans who work with languages .
1:01:00 Earlier in ancient times we use to have several Dharmic criteria for a person to stand up for elections
One of the viewers suggested to General Narayan to read Journey continues by Sri M..my suggestion to General Narayan will be to read Sri M's first book Apprenticed to a Himalayan master first
Will surely do so. Have read the book, Living with the Himalayan Masters. These two would add to it. 🙏🙏
Jai ,Jai sri ram
Excellent thought provoking discussion. I plan to go over it again.
Thank you
Marvelous talk ! You should go in details on several topics that you touched upon in this presentation.
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Thanks!
Thank you
Archaeological Survey of India needs to do it's job. Without archaeological evidence to back these claims we cannot reinforce Bharatiya itihas with scientific data.
Joe Rogan Graham Hancock podcast has some content regarding lost advanced ancient civilizations and Younger Dryas meteor impact event.
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Some kind of solar event. Sanyasi or something like that bodies may have been buried body remains found
As aother pointer duties need more weight then rights in Bharat
Sir, I come from Saraswati civilization. We are called Saraswat Brahmins. We are now spread all over the world. And we are direct living descendant of Saraswati Civilization.
Awesome!!.. 💯🙂👍!!..
Even our devis has shshtra like 🗡️ and trident 🔱
WE ARE BHARTIYA...the descendents of manu... chandravanshi and suryavanshi...
Raghu was great king so much that despite the dynasty coming from so long it’s called Raghukul. What was the war where queen kekayee put her fingers and took pledge from king dusrath ( king of ten raths).
I am in a shock and awe that our history has been washed out of 1ooo years of history in terms of timeline
Yes 😠😡🤬
Gen. Narayanan talked a lot about out history. Please could you post the background reading on which he bases his knowledge. I'd love to read up too. I have been a student of history for a long time and I don't know enough about my own history.
Adi sir can u share that swedish school prayer sir was talking about ?
Gayatri mantra
At some point we will need to go from Bharat to Aryavarta. That is what Swami Dayanand Saraswati called it in his Satyarthaprakash.
We have to research 🥰☺️🙏🕉️🇮🇳
The Thar is also called Marudhar - land of the dead. Could it be a reference to some catastrophic event.
#ask Aadi. We're the gurus masters of all trades? Do we have gurus to guide us like our ancestors. So many are fake Padma recepients
Hi sir general sir the song is NCC song (nation cadet corps)
do you have any evidence to place shankaracharya at 180 bc instead of 800 ad?
You didn't mention haryank dynasty, who's famous king was Ajatsatru.
Sir source Pura nahi dikh raha hai please phir se bhejiye
Gen Narayanan it will be better to use the word Shri instead of lord, which connotes a totally different meaning.
Modiji was in Ukraine
Aadi don't you see the similarity in this visit between Lord Krishna going to the Kauravas with the final peace offer.
Is Putin the Arjuna and Xi Jin ping the confused Yudhishthira.
Dharma yudh is about to begin.
When you make Bhārat out of Bhārata, you have already killed the Bhāratiyatā of our civilization.....
Bhārat is the perso-arabic pronunciation of the Samskruta word Bhārata.....
So while some people need to be brought out of 200 years of colonized mindset, the rest(including the two panelist and those running the country) need to be brought out of 1000 years of slavery.....
Jaya he Bhārata Māte...
Sir, West have stolen our knowledge as if it was theirs, they don' t even give credit to the original core country, for all the knowledge they have acquired. Since they claim Aryans went from Central Asia, hence it's ok to claim as theirs. It became more imminent for the ASI survey of Sivalingam of Gyan wapi to debunk Aryan Invasion.
I'm very religious and promptly made fun of, this is very cathartic.
Don't give up, be who you are. It's totally fine to be religious.
is there evidence for this?
Yea that's why he is saying ok bro
Adi keep shorter talks max 1 hour
No bro..the longer the better