Sage / Breville Barista Pro Series Video 3. Barista Pro Vs Barista Express, side by side comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- This is my third video in this series on the Sage Barista Pro.
In this video, I'm doing a side-by-side comparison of the Barista Express & the Barista Pro.
By the way, if you're in the UK or Europe (including Ireland, Germany, France, and most other countries in mainland Europe) see: coffeeblog.co....
Product links:
Barista Pro from Amazon UK: amzn.to/3JSWfXO
Barista Pro from Sage UK: breville.oie8....
Barista Pro from Amazon USA: amzn.to/3GpdMpX
Barista Pro from Breville USA: breville.oie8....
Barista Pro from Sage Europe: breville.oie8....
Barista Pro from John Lewis: john-lewis-and...
Barista Express from Amazon UK: amzn.to/31hbw01
Barista Express from Sage UK: breville.oie8....
Barista Express from Amazon USA: amzn.to/3wL5rZa
Barista Express from Breville USA: breville.oie8....
Barista Express from Sage Europe: breville.oie8....
Barista Express from John Lewis: john-lewis-and...
Blog Reviews:
Barista Express Review(UK) coffeeblog.co....
Barista Pro Review(UK) coffeeblog.co....
Best Sage Coffee Machines (UK) coffeeblog.co....
Best Breville Espresso machines (USA) coffeekev.com/...
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Kev
Hi
Nice video.
How tall is the pro including bean holder on top?
Thanks …
Thanks for the videos kev, it's helped with me choosing between the pro and the express. Definitely think it's worth paying the £100 extra for the pro
I knew that you were going to have a vid about these two against each other to help a bit with my upcoming decision! Spot on review as usual :)
Thanks Luis :-)
Great video, thanks a lot and for all previous vids as well.
After watching your channel got better idea of what sort of coffee machine I want (was going to get Baristar Touch, but budget said NO) and finally become proud owner of Barista Pro (wife and kids bought as a birthday present) also have Bambino Plus - nice beast but getting replaced right now due to some mulfunction. So far I'm happy with Pro - really good coffe machine, still learning how to get best shots but definitely recommend it to all.
How is it year after ?
Helpful video only thing I will add is pro got low water level indicator as well👍
Thank you for this review. It's very helpful for me! I'm going with the PRO.
Great review Kev!
I was pretty much made up on getting the Express, but can see the Pro is worth the extra $$$ …. Buy it nice or buy it twice.
Great review. Got my Sage Pro last week. Having great fun learning new skills. Especially milk texturing. Upgrading from a Delonghi that served me very well.
Thanks Lee :-)
Sounds great. The adjustability of the grind size was the only complaint I heard about the express so good to know about the pro. Always a plus not having to wait longer as well 😁
Thank you for the review, I’ve ordered through your link. 👍🏻
Thanks, very informative and useful.
Thank you for this much appreciate and now I know which one to buy 😊
@Coffee_Kev am I the only one thinking the water tank at the back is badly positioned for the majority of kitchens, compared to machines that have addressed this by putitng them on the side? Most of us will put these machines against the wall, and also have cupboards above that restrict access to fill from the top.
Cheers Kev, very uses always.👍☕
Thanks James 👍
Loved this video - great help, thanks!
Thanks Rob :-)
Great video, clear and informative. Thanks
Shame that they don't also include pressure within the LCD display.
I have the Express. Is it worth fitting the SP0024830 4 hole nozzle? Are there Pros and Cons to doing this.
Great review
Thanks 👍😀
Thanks so much for the video. I'm looking at buying an espresso machine and couldn't decide between the Pro and Express. Seems like the Pro is worth the extra £. Good to know!!
Cheers Josh
I think the Express will hold up better than the Pro. More electronics with the lcd screen that can brake in the Pro. High risk in a humid/hot/wet environment.
Hi Turre, yeah I suppose the LCD is one more thing to potentially go down, I can see where you're coming from, although re the hi risk due to humidity and heat, I'm sure they'll have designed around this, Breville/Sage know what they're doing.
You sound like my grandpa
Read actual review of people who work at repair stations, they mention that the heat of the thermoelectric in the pro doesn't affect the internals like the express does
What about the Barista Touch Impress vs the Barista Pro? Can you make a video comparing the two? I read that the Touch Impress has the M2 conical burrs from Baratza which have greatly improved the grinder!
Hi. Thanks for the helpful videos. Could you do a comparison of the BBP and the Gaggia Classic Pro? I’m leaning BBP. Thanks!
I'm at the point of deciding between BE and Pro ..... one on-line forum said the Thermojet system was causing problems with milk steaming .... it was passing pulses of water, and spoiled the chance of getting good milk foam. Have you compared the actual milk steaming action, is it different on the PRO ?
So breville and sage are the same company? I didnt even realise
which of the two is better to buy?, thanks
Hi Michael. It just depends on your perspective. Overall, I prefer the pro over the express, I really like the features of the LCD, including the shot timer, and I like the fact that the steam is ready so much quicker, and that it steams quicker.
But then, the express is cheaper - and also, something I didn't mention in the video as I wasn't aware of this until I spoke to an engineer recently - in theory, the newer heating system on the pro is more prone to scale issues (as the space inside the coil is very small), so descaling is possibly more important, or using good quality or filtered water if you're in a hard water area.
Cheers
Bambino Plus/Smart Grinder Pro or Barista Pro? I just want to make great Cappuccino and Latte as easily as possible.
Thanks for the video. I am wondering why there are not so much interest in reviewing/comparing to Barista Express Impress.
I would like to know more about the Barista Express Impress rather than Barista Express or Pro.
It's just because there haven't been review models available, they moved very quickly on the release, and I've not been able to get hold of a review model as of yet. I'm told one will be with me any day.
@@Coffee_Kev Kev, can we expect a comparison of the Impress vs Pro soon ? Thanks
@Coffee_Kev do you have discount codes available for members of the military serving in BFC? (RAF Akrotiri, Cyprus)
Interested in either Sage Express or the Touch as it is called via Best Buy Cyprus.
Thanks😀
You're welcome 😊
Thanks for the great review. Would you go for a sage machine or gaggia classic with a capable grinder?
Thanks :-). That's too big a question to answer in a comment, there are so many pros and cons for both, and then it also depends on which Sage machine you're referring to. Cheers.
Thanks. Just got the pro and was wondering if a pressure gauge is a must. This answers it. You mentioned that the shot timing kinda tells you where the grind needs to be instead of using a pressure gauge. That makes sense. However my question is on what is the use manual modes then? Say your grind is too coarse using the auto 2 shot and the machine stops extracting at 15 seconds from first pour, if you manually extended that to 25 seconds vs going with a finer grind that kinda defeats the purpose of a good shot. So why have a manual mode? In summary would you recommend sticking only with the auto modes? Thanks
Hi Ricky, apologies for the delayed reply.
The idea is to get to your desired ratio in a specified window, so if you're following the 25-30 second shot time and a 1:2 extraction, you'd be aiming to pull a 38g (ish) shot from 19g of coffee in a flow rate of 25-30 seconds, whether you get to this point manually or via the buttons doesn't matter. Cheers, Kev.
This is a great comparison. I believe the only thing that was left out is that the BBP delivers 9 bars of pressure at the group head where the BBE does not. The only way to duplicate this would be to install an OTP mod on the BBE. Between these two, I chose the BBP and so far am very happy with it.
what about the temperature of coffee?
@Coffee_Kev as the water tank is at the back and I'll need to place it against the wall inbetween kitchen units top and bottom, do these have some indicator to warn when water is low or will it simply not allow you to brew?
Would you say that the Bambino Plus with a different grinder (of any kind) is a better value-for-money option that the Pro if you don't mind grinding your own beans?
This may be true in the US & Aus - in the UK the Bambino, and Bambino Plus, come with both standard and dual walled baskets. Cheers
Great bought the pro used for 1/3 of the price but I noticed there maybe has been added more power to the new machines. Says 1600 watt on the used and 1800 on the new is That correct and if what is the reason?
I don't think the Wattage has changed, the current version is 1680w. Cheers
Wish Sage would buy the breville name - confused the hell out of me, im sure 1000's have made this mistake, so "repeating yourself" is a good thing :D
Hello, I have been following you for a while and have enjoyed and learned from your espresso machine reviews. I have a question for determining which of these espresso machines I am going to buy. You mentioned that the Pro’s cup warmer doesn’t warm up as much as the Espress’. I imagined that that also goes with the group head. If so, would you say that the Espress’ espressos are a little better since hot group heads are important for good espressos. Hope you still check on the comments from this review. Thank you for any info on the subject
I have a Pro, I simply pull double blank shot, takes care of warming up the group head.
Thinking pro or bambino plus and smart grinder pro, what ya reck?
I'll tell u exactly what I think 😀, here: th-cam.com/video/TT9LI2gfAdo/w-d-xo.html
@@Coffee_Kev oh yeah! I've even watch that video! 🤣🤣🤣 cheers!
Hi, have you heard of any grinding issues with the Pro. I have had one for a year that worked perfectly, until grinder broke. I have been sent two replacements machines so far (can't fault customer service) but out the box both are only grinding 11-12.5 gram in the 13 sec grind. I have to grind for close to 20 secs to get the required 20 grams. The grinder is able to grind finer etc and I can dial it in but the time it takes to grind is miles off my original machine or what sage quote as approx times for a double shot.
Hi Neil,
Thanks for your message, would you be able to tell me what beans you are using and weather they are dark or light roast please?
Cheers
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev thank you very much for the response much appreciated. They were medium to dark roast, I have been using mostly the same beans for the last year with my original machine, from Monmouth coffee in London. Beans are their house roast but I’ve used numerous beans of theirs without issue on my original machine.
do either of these machines have a temperature setting to be able to change the temp manually, or is it just set to a generic temp?
Hi Nathan, yeah they both have five temperature settings, you can take it down by 2 degrees C in 1C increments, and up by 2c, again in 1C increments (up or down by 4F in 2F increments ).
Is it just temporary but the Pro is cheaper than the Express? On Amazon uk right now is 349 (down from 449 for the pro) and 598 for the express. Could you advise? Is the Pro newer? Sorry my bad. The 349 is the Max not the Pro 😢
Hi are you talking about the Breville Barista Max?, This is not a sage machine, it is made by Breville...confusing isn't it!
Cheers
Kev
@@Coffee_Kev super confusing. As they look identical. I thought it was a rebrand like Opel /Vauxall
Hello! I got the Barista Pro 2 weeks ago but when I dial a second dose few minutes after the first one….the second dose do not come out… ex: few drop in 40 seconds while the first one with 17 g of coffee come out around 37 g extraction in 30 second…. All with all the same setting, same coffee!! What could be the reason? Thank you!
Hi :-). Dose is exactly the same weight?
Coffee Kev Yes… same weight!!… but I think I resolve the problem… I am now single dosing 18g and the so far it is working!! :)
Hallo
Gastroback 426616 oder DeLongi Ecam 23.466s welche finden Sie besser?
Google Translate:
Hallo, es ist schwierig, der Gastroback ist - glaube ich - der gleiche wie der Sunbeam, der in Großbritannien unter der Marke Breville verkauft wird - soweit ich sehe, ist es ein Versuch des Barista Express, aber mit einigen wesentlichen Unterschieden, die vermitteln mir den Eindruck, dass es nicht ganz auf dem gleichen Niveau ist. Aber die DeLonghi ist eine Bohnen-zu-Tassen-Maschine, also sind es zwei sehr unterschiedliche Maschinen. Danke.
Hi guys is the sage barista express grinder fitting in the pro one? Has it the same predisposition?? Thanks
The grinder in the pro is almost the same but there are nearly double the grinding steps, 30 vs 18. Cheers
DURABILITY?????
the espresso will be more durable than the pro? because I have heard that the more modern the more easily there are failures.
I would love to decide on the PRO but my fear is that it is not as durable as the previous model ...
I am not a person who likes constantly renewing so I would like to know which one will give me more years of service
Durable? I have gone through 2 expresses in 5 years
the guy is comparing espresso machines and the only thing that he does not talk about is the espresso!
Sorry bud ...your video is so confusing I switched of at 1.min 30...is it or isnt it better..?
Thanks for the feedback. "Better" is a very subjective term. My favourite, and I think I make this obvious in the video but apologies if not, is the pro, mainly because I really like the shot timer and the other stuff the display brings such as easier routes to changing brew temp, programming shot buttons etc, and also for the slightly faster steam ready time, steaming time, and the faster shot ready time after steaming milk.
There are potentially things that are "better" about the express too though, it's cheaper, it'll produce almost the same in terms of shot quality, it has a pressure gauge, so it what is better for you depends on your specific perspective. Cheers, Kev.
A maximum temp of 70°C with the brew temp set to maximum.Dude, you don't know what awful coffee you make