Veiling in My Practice
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I veil (close to full hair covering) full time for 3 basic reasons:
- I follow Hestia and feel called to veil as a devotional practice
- I'm autistic and find it comforting and safe and empowering
- It acts as a daily reminder to practice the ideologies I hold close (these also link to Hestia). Homekeeping, hospitality, lifting up and empowering others, political involvement, sustainabilty.
I do this, too! For the same reasons, too, dang. What are the odds?
I love Hestia too!! 💖💖💖💖💖
I love this! Thank you for sharing your life and journey. You inspire me to work on reclaiming the lost heritage that my family stopped passing down our of fear. 💕
This was so interesting! I am intrigued by this practice, and I will be doing some research for myself. I'm very new to the Craft and I didn't know about this practice. Thank you for sharing! I know it's a highly personal decision. I appreciate the ladies who responded about veiling in other religions and countries. I know virtually nothing about this, and I always wondered about it. Thank you all for the information! 🙏
this video is inspiring me to try veiling in my own life. i work in a very mentally taxing workplace and i am hoping that maybe veiling could help me! thanks for all the info!
Very glad to have found this video! Thank you:)
I can't believe I didn't subscribe to your channel earlier! My apologies!🥺🥺🥺 Wish you all the love!
My daughter, who is pagan and has ADHD, veils because it keeps her from being over stimulated. The pressure from the veil can keep her from having panic attacks when she's around too many people.
That’s really interesting. I have ADHD (amongst C-PTSD, PTSD, anxiety, ect). Being in public is something I avoid as much as possible. 🖤
Is she also an hsp or highly sensitive person?
@@jamisedenari2449 any people with ADHD are not diagnosed with SPD but probably, I personally also like covering my ears to block noise and am trying to find an appropriate way to do so (not wearing headphones 😒 in the work place and in social situations where you get nitpicked on for “not paying attention”)
I am a nurse so 😅
@@jamisedenari2449 while not diagnosed with it, I would say she is.
I have read this many times
No one ever questions catholic nuns about wearing their habits. As long as the woman is comfortable with veiling, who am I to tell them it’s wrong?
being your the only one that brought it up kinda shows how no one thinks about it but is exactly what i was going to comment
Exactly I feel the same way who are we to judge anyone for what they do as long as we are comfortable with what we do ourselves other people's beliefs and what they do is in them!!!
As an ex Muslim, with all due respect to muslim women who veil themselves, (including my own family members), nuns do it because they choose to become nuns, on the other hand, Muslim women don't choose to be born as a woman.. So this example doesn't really look like it holds the weight for the argument.
Dude a few months ago I saw nuns (didn't know they still existed) with the full habit and I was shocked like they were just chillin on the starbucks patio. It was the first time I've ever seen real nuns irl.
@@walsinghamite I think in this case the example is more for those who are Christian/Catholic or ex-Christian/Catholic not looking down on someone from that religion for donning a covering, but looking down on someone from another religion for doing something very similar. It is also not necessarily referring to JUST Muslim women, but anyone who wishes to veil, regardless of religious or spiritual beliefs.
The part you mentioned about extending the domestic into the public is seen now with blk women wearing bonnets outside. Some people think its “ghetto” including me in the past, but i had to train myself out of the anti-blackness. Great video!
Bonnets outside the home IS ghetto because it's part of the night gown. A head scarf is totally different.
@@SageKayDee I guess you could call it ghetto. What i mean is that its not a bad thing
The bonnet is still Ghetto coming from a black woman. It's strictly made for inside hair. I hate seeing my sister's abusing their identity this way. However a veil or head wrap is beautiful and spiritual
@@candyfinks740 I don’t view wearing a bonnet as abuse because its suppose to be worn to protect hair. The same applies for durags, for example. There’s no real difference in its use so I choose not to hold them at different standards.
I also don’t view it as abusing identity because black people can’t misuse our own culture. Wearing a bonnet is apart of what black people wear, so in my view it can’t be immoral or degrading to be black and participate in black culture
@@McMoldys bonnets are sleepwear. It's just as lazy as wearing your nightgown outside the house. This is also coming from a black women.
As a muslim veiled woman i love seeing other cultures veiling as well
Keep going auntie💜
You dummy. It’s pagan and not in the Quran. Why cover what Allah created and created a barrier between his blessing coming I’m down unto you.
I’m so excited to learn more about this. My ancestors are Ukrainian and Russian, and Veiling is a big part of Ukrainian culture. Also I just pre ordered your book!!!! You are a gift Frankie❤️
On busy or stressful days, I like to veil as a reminder to not take on other's negative energy as my own. It makes me feel safe, cute, and mor connected to my practice. My favorite veil is blue, so a little bit of calming color magic is also sprinkled in there.
This is interesting. I tend to take on the energy of others. It never occurred to me before watching this video and reading your comment that veiling could help with this. Thank you for sharing.
Just to add another perspective of the “why” behind oppression being linked with veiling. As a daughter who was forced; and I don’t say that lightly; to veil , and was taught that it was a sign of my submission to my father and brothers it was and still is hard for me to not see it as such. It takes growth and healing to overcome that view and not everyone has come to the place were they feel comfortable with veiling. So so appreciate this video and your Chanel!
Thank you for sharing.
My Muslim friend grew up unveiled to about late teens-she was given a ‘choice’ to not veil. Devout girl, smart mind. Then she really wanted to attend higher education and her family made it clear that they would trade permission to leave their supervision with strict veiling and other restrictions.
I have countless stories and they all involve control. It echoes my own upbringing where dressing modestly didn’t stop me being raped but it did show ‘respect ‘ or whatever for my male family and male sky daddy. I have since left that objectification.
I’ve heard that it is haram to force a woman to veil, not that it can matter to some parents. I know at least from a former Christian perspective a lot of things that aren’t necessarily against the Bible can be enforced upon undeserving Christian kids.
@@namedrop721 yeah, somehow the young girl being objectified is the "stronger brother" and the church leaders are the weaker brother you shouldn't be a stumbling block to. I mean, okay, let's say, men are the weaker brother, but then they should step down and stop claiming leadership. You can't have it both ways without being a raging hypocrit.
I live in a islamic country. And when you go out, lots of women wearing hijab. My mum is wearing hijab too. But when i ask my mum "why are we wearing it" she said "you must find your answer yourself". I was really confused and i started to resarch. I find lots of information but if you going to wear a veil, hijab and other things, you must belive. You must belive it's going to protect you, giving you happines, opens your chakras and etc. And it will work what are you belive :)
Wow this is beautiful 😌 💕
Your mum is very wise
I think you have a very good and wise mum. And I think you have the same wisdom in you. It runs strong in both of you. Blessed be.
Technically it's believe in English, not belive. But belive is a beautiful word, combining both believing and living. I think you've created the perfect new word. Be and live - belive and believe. :)
there is no concept of chakras in islam !
@@aida7641 considering Chakras is another way of saying energies in the body there likely is. As every religion I've studied has some form of that.
Medieval head wraps also served to soak up hair oils from less frequently washed hair. The linen was more easily washed than the head, which couldn't withstand lye quite as well!
I've actually started full body covering up when my anxiety gets bad. So polo neck top, long sleeves, fingerless gloves long skirt and it's crazy how much it helps. I feel soo beautiful and safe. I had no idea veiling existed before finding you on tiktok and I honestly think it saved my life. My quality of life has gone up and I will always be grateful for that. Thank you Frankie
Yes, I recently became super into kibble body types and have been trying to mimic a few traditional/casual romantic styles which often covers more, which is nice 😊 also is good for blood circulation so double yay 😁
Your comment and your description reminded me of Rogue from X Men: Evolution, I wonder if you have ever seen this animated series from the early 00's? She is wearing clothes that cover all of her body but she's being punk rock about it, and it kind of always resonated with me.
I definitely want to start veiling. For witches in the medical field, definitely consider using your scrub cap as a veil. The amount of energy that is involved in the medical field (including dentistry) is ridiculous and super draining I find. So most of the tips for veiling works and I highly recommend. Using a scrubs cap, depending on the office, can sometimes require it anyways so it helps to have it apart of your routine.
How did I not think of that before? My hair goes all the way down to my bum and it feels like things get stuck to it after a few day at work even when braided.
Pinning it up helps somewhat but ICU is a sticky draining place. Thank you for tipping my nose into that tidbit of information.
Veiling like any other attire worn is no one else's business. I personally don't veil, but absolutely love some of the veils I've seen worn by others. 🙂
I started veileing like a year ago, without knowing, that I was veiling and what that is. Then I saw one of your TikTok´s where you spoke about it and than I realised that I was wearing my cap in public, because it made me comfortable and let me feel safe. Now I´m wearing it, when I leave the house to protect myself and just let me feel safe and somehow I´m more confident, then I was before veiling.
Most of the people just accepted the fact that I was always wearing something on my head and just some of my friends and my family asked me, why I was doing that and they were so interested in it, which made me very happy. I just wanted to share this here.
PS: I´m not a native speaker, so please don´t get mad at me, when I wrote something wrong. I tried my best. ;)
I’m not from a country that practice veiling (very few). I remember a lady wearing a hijab (I believe it was) came in the store I worked. I was busy with a next customer but I heard my coworkers talking. They refused to help “a bomber”. I knew nothing of Muslims, Islam or anywhere outside western culture for that matter but I knew wrong from right. I had to hurry with my customer and go help the lady.
At the time I was still very new to the world because of an overprotected childhood.
Since then I have tried to learn all I can about what I don’t know before I judge. While I still judge people in my mind, I ensure to think before I speak.
While I had always been a spiritual and “weird” person. I believe opening myself up to learn about other religions and opinions, made me the witch I am today. Still learning but I am the best me that has ever lived and I will be better tomorrow.
Hi, I'm in history school and we've learned that the toga/pallium that the Romans wear is not really a religion but comes from their past. They have a history where they were shepherds and as the toga was made of wool it was used as a sleeping bag when they travelled.
With the evolution of the Romans, they kept this tradition because the Romans are very attached to the techniques of their ancestors
I'm a pagan Norse and I'm starting to wear a veil for my migraines too.
I really like your videos and I hope to buy your book soon.
(Sorry for the mistakes, I'm French)
Thank you!!!! I was struggling to find information on the pallium.
Can I ask why you wear a veil for migraines? I am Wiccan and have migraines. I'm wondering what veiling does in connection to your migraines.
@@carolann811 The veil helps me not to feel the emotions of others and all that surrounds me and therefore not to have an overwhelming feeling that gives me migraines
I've never considered myself to veil but I wear a lot of pashminas, scarfs and bandanas because I totally understand the 'I get to walk around wrapped in a comfy blanket' effect - when I was starting a new job and grieving for my mother at the same time it felt really good to wear her protection into new social situations. I also enjoy walking in cold weather and the warmth from a headscarf/balaclava can't be underestimated.
I absolutely love to veil. I veil started veiling for my goddess Guan Yin and for many of the reasons stated in the video. Such as protection and I wear a white veil when I pray or do spiritual work. Like how some Hoodoo and other African spiritual folk wear white when doing spiritual tasks. Thank you for such an amazing video!
Quan Yin is my deity as well. I was wondering where did you get your veil? And how did you come into veiling?
@@sojuiicy It was mostly through signs and synchronicities. I was scrolling the TikTok and veiling popped up out of nowhere and my fyp was specifically tailored to certain content. And then I started to notices that Quan Yin actually veiled as well in many of her paintings. And so I just started doing it and it feels great. I feel confident and sacred. Like I'm a powerful magic practitioner. I also buy my veils online from Amazon and Etsy.
@@sojuiicy And I usually wear loose style veils because I like the flowy look like Quan Yin, but sometimes I wear tighter wrapped styles. And so people won't think I'm Muslim I wear Kuan yin jewelry or other magical jewelry and show my neck.
@@daisjacarmouche9377 I was gifted a blessed wood carving statue of her made from a 1000 year old tree when I was in Vietnam. As with the signs and synchronicities thats also how I came to know she was my second deity
@@sojuiicy That's amazing! I haven't found many magic practitioners who work with Kuan yin. They usually.work with other deities. Nice to know there are others.
What a coincidence! I just started veiling again for college, and decided to veil for my exam right now haha
I’m still a baby witch, and a ‘baby’ pagan. I veil to protect myself and my own energy from others’, especially if I’m helping a friend go through something, or letting someone rant to me. I also veil to feel safe. I’ve always liked things over or in my ears (earbuds, scarfs etc) as I get very scared from loud noises, ever since I was a little girl. So it’s very handy that by veiling I’m also providing myself with a covering to make me feel safe!
💀 pretending to be oppressed because of veiling? what??? how??? *what?*
Hello! I come from a muslim background. I always think it's so funny how nonmuslims pronounce Islam and hijab. The reasonings behind wearing a hijab are kinda the same actually. Protection from evil eye, modesty, carrying your home with you. It's personal for every hijabi, and reasons with vary. For me as a genderfluid pagan, I don't wear my hijab unless I feel like it. I care more about showing my shoulders than about showing my hair. However, when I do wear my hijab I feel comfort in the phrase "Cast your eyes down." Because how dare you even look at a veiled person.
Thank you so much for sharing!!!!!
If someone is leering at someone else and making them uncomfortable, of course, that's terrible behaviour and should stop immediately. Is that the kind of behaviour you're talking about when you asked, rhetorically, how dare someone look at a veiled person?
if i'm not mistaken hijab only means curtain, so any kind of modest dressing (which would include covering your shoulders) would still classify as your own hijab if i'm not wrong
From a Muslim woman to a gender fluid pagan…
That’s a huge downgrade.
Also someone who went from a muslim background to being a genderfluid pagan leaning person ✌much support to you.
Sounds like I should try this as a Catholic witch and empath with anxiety issues and chronic headaches and migraines. Veiling sounds like it could help me on many fronts and would be very appropriate for my identity.
Hey, just wondering how you incorporate Christianity in your practice. I’ve gotten out of church and that stuff, and would like to know your experience as a catholic witch!
@@koya326 its a lot different from christianity, but as a catholic we have folk saints thats how i incorporate my religion into my craft
@@koya326 I do christ consciousness that's a balance
The “Celtic” goddess an Cailleach is pronounced like “Kai-Luck”. Vid is great btw wonder if there’s anything to do with veiling for men?
Thank you!! And there are lots of historical and present day examples of men veiling, including the turban and yarmulke, so I don't see why not!
i wash my hair with intent to be a veil cos im transmasc and veiling doesn't look very masculine on me
@@mossie_witch8220 i have a similar thing, im nonbinary and dont have any veils that really suit my more masc-aligned presentation so instead i wash my hair with intent
@@mossie_witch8220 you can try bandana "band on forehead" style, strong horizontal line tend to masculinize face
I started veiling without knowing why, or really thinking about it… but I feel calmer, safer and more “in control” with it on. I rarely leave the house without a veil or a hat on now!
I feel more shielded from the unwanted energies of others when I’m veiled… although I can “tune in” if necessary, but it’s on my terms!
Thank you for this video - it’s great to learn of the history and how other cultures use veils and the meaning of them to those individuals
Also, quick note: any type of sage can be used not only for "bleaching" but as a ward against evil. So, if you have some sort of sage spray/perfume from any type of sage, it can be used in tandem with veiling for extra protection against the evil eye. Florida water is also a protective tonic and easy to find depending on your location.
I started veiling over a year ago; I still consider myself a baby witch in my own practice. Veiling has become a daily practice and has made me feel more comfortable and safe when going outside, especially with shielding myself and protecting myself from any negative energy.
As a black pagan , I wear a tignon to honor my ancestors and to protect my crown charka Also you inspired me to veil.
Thank you for this! I’m a brown pagan and veil both because of my practice and cultural identity. I always ask white pagans to examine exactly *why* they veil, especially because of the deep oppression set for black and brown people who veil. If i walk into a store with a headscarf on, I immediately get dirty looks because of the color of my skin while a white person would be praised for their interesting fashion sense. Thank you for addressing your reasons!
I completely agree. Thank you for watching & sharing ❤️🔥
Being a brown pagan in the Caribbean the relationship is different i veil for reserving personal power appreciating my ancestors culture both african and indegenious but because head wraps is mostly Muslim or Rastafarian here n my wrapping style isnt like either it confuses people
Trust me us white people still get horrible glares and are trash talked. I am still scared to walk alone on the street with certain veils. Some areas of the states I absolutely would get killed.
as a white looking caribbean (beofre i get some ignorant mf my family is entirely african and taíno) however i am mixed with other things but grew uo with my abuela and such. everyone who wears the veils gets dirty looks. it sucks, but ignorance exists sadly. however YOU are NO ONE to ask why anyone else does or participates in their religious practices. YOU do not get to ask anyone
I hate that this happens to anyone... but I have never been praised for my "interesting fashion sense". The opposite really... from dirty looks, nasty comments and even being kicked out of places. It was very frustrating. I however do know and agree that women of color or women who wear their veil in a specific style also tend to be larger targets for abuse than myself.
Recently started veiling at work and noticed it makes me feel a lot better. Sadly my mum tries to force me to not wear it and I'm very hesitant to explain to my boss that I'm pagan since most people here don't really recognise paganism as a valid religion
I use to think veiling was stupid. You have opened my eyes and taught me something that I will no longer take for granted.
9:30 The part about the headaches is so interesting! I've read in a comment down below that ppl say veiling shields from the evil eye and in my culture (I'm Italian) if someone puts the evil eye on you you feel it by heaving a rlly heavy headache so the part where you say that your headaches got better through veiling was kind of eye opening to me!
Hinduism utilizes veiling. If they are part of a saree it is called a "pallu", which is very similar looking to the ancient Roman palla.
The pallu is more of a scarf than a veil. Some Hindus actually did veil, but it was in places that were heavily patriarchal and where women were not allowed to be seen in public and were kept in 'purdah', or literally, behind curtains and veils. As the status of women has progressed, the practice of purdah has dropped away.
@@1jamesnigh I currently live in India. Women wear pallus as headcoverings on a daily basis. Rajistani women and some village women use the veil to cover their entire faces. Women are expected to wear headcoverings in temples...the practice is still very much alive.
@@PoeticPeer I'm aware of what you're saying, Jessi. I'm saying that a pallu is more of a headscarf than a veil. I'd think of ghunghat as more of a veil than a pallu. And yes, there still are places where full veiling is practised, but I think your example illustrates my point: Rajasthan is still heavily patriarchal. Veiling tends to cease as women earn and become financially independent and equal to men.
Keep in mind the geographical location of Rajasthan. Veiling is very helpful to protect from elements as well.
My dad was raised Mennonite (my grandma still is), which is a Christian denomination where the women wear head coverings, and I just want to say that I really, really appreciate all of the effort that you put into researching this and bringing up so many different religions and cultures.
I am SO glad you made an updated video on this! I recently started veiling and it is one of my favorite parts of my practice.
Heyyy congrats on coming out on your pronouns if they/them!!!
Me randomly starting to wear smth like a veil to "keep the hair out of my face" and then learning about veiling and doing it basically everyday to feel somehow more protected🤭
Edit: I kinda freaked out when you mentioned Freya and that you did this for her because (I think) she is my patron(i need to work more to develop the energy to have constant contact with her) or at least a deity that has been with me for some time now without me even knowing about deities(she might have been with me my entire life but I can remember about signs from her from only 8 months ago, before that i have no idea) and a part of me feels that i did veil myself so random because of her. Maybe i am overthinking but=)))
Thank you for the videooo
I came out as genderfluid to myself about a year ago, and for about three months I wore beanies to cover my hair (It's reaaaallllyyyy long) and it always calmed me down so much. I started veiling a few weeks ago, and it's been amazing
Be careful: when there is a man/men demanding you to veil, run!
I was JUST wishing you had a video on veiling and after feeling very called to it today I’m veiling in public for the first time!!! Ahhh so thankful for this upload 💕
As a witch and an ethnic/cultural Jew that identifies more with the orthodox side of things, such as head scarves, I have felt super conflicted since I got married (when you start covering). Part of me identifying with my background wanted to veil, but as someone who IS pagan and practices witchcraft, I’ve always felt like that door was shut or should be shut. Like I have to choose one or the other. I’ve found it incredibly hard to blend these aspects of who I am. I’ve been wrestling with this for years. But seeing that other witches are veiling for individual reasons… it makes me feel a little less crazy and like maybe I can embrace both.
As for your pronunciation of tichel… you’re just missing the hard, throaty “ch”. It’s hard to describe via text… just think of the stereotypical sound people make when joking about Hebrew, and that’s honestly it. If you check out Wrapunzel, they say the word all the time and you also might find a ton of new inspiration for how you cover: th-cam.com/users/WrapunzelLadies
Thank you so much for the pronunciation!
I am a practicing jew and a witch as well! I veil to keep out the bad vibes (for context I am a high school teacher). I draw sigils over the crown area of the scarf/snood/ bandana with oils for calm and protection. My students enjoy taking bets on what type of covering and scent I will wear that day, and were super curious about the practice! They also decided (without me showing any practicings other than veiling) that I was a witch, lol.
Yes I was going to ask why. Thank you for explaining I have really bad headaches/pain so I'm going to try this. I'm a new witch and this makes me feel like I need to want to vail. So thank you and you look beautiful wearing them.x
I tried it for that and it helped! Hope it helps u too
Ajovy has changed my life as far as migraines go. Also, I have a cefaly device and it is also amazing and is no medicine! It's worth every penny. Hope this helps. Love and light ✨
time to cleanse and sigil my Wendy's hat. it'll be a good veil from the customers energy since i have to wear it everyday
Can men wear a veil? Jewish men wear a Yamaka, and sihk men wrap their heads, are there other historical options for men? Can I apply the same aspect to hats? I have medium length curly hair and I also like to leave my hairties and headbands at my altar to dose them with protection. This is such a thought provoking video! Loved it!
I don't see why not!
I've seen many historical paintings of men wearing veils/hoods.
Bandana
*glances at hat and scarf collection when the grounding reason comes up*
That explains a few things.
I'd been curious when you had started veilling. Thanks for the video.
Awe your candle is happy!
I wanted to tell you, you inspired me to veil. I have learned so so much from you. I have been veiling for about 3 months now. My veiling in my practice is also for my self love and protect me from negative energies. I work with Hecate and I honor her by wear my veil or my cloak. Some individuals may not understand, but that's okay! 👌 I am happy and I feel beautiful. 😌 Thank You Frankie! 😊 You're the best!
Thank you for this, I’ve seen veiling being mentioned before but not in such an in depth way. As a Greek, we often wore different headscarves for special events, funerals, performances. It was also used to signal different stages of a persons life, for example widows wear a black headscarf signaling their grief, and status as widow, usually wearing black for the rest of their life. Different colors and embellishments have different levels of meaning. I think it’s so interesting that almost every culture has a version of the headscarf.
I veiled my head two years straight outside the home. I stopped because I realized how high my anxiety (and panic) was rising if I didnt have any veil - I'd become way too attached/dependent. Now though, I'm ready to put one back on. I looked at my husband one day, nearly in tears, and said "I miss my veils", because I was picking up so much external energy. I'm going to be making new ones.
The only time my arms and legs are not covered is when it's literally too hot to safely wear anything but shorts (to my knees) and a t-shirt. I do wear t-shirts regularly, but I'm not comfortable unless my shoulders are covered.
Types of veils are up to each person. I jump between tichel, bananas and shayla.
Hi Ms. Frankie it's Rebel Chylde nice to meet you and thank you so much for the shout out. 🖤🥰 I have been a Druid & Celtic witch for over 10 years & I'm honored you mentioned me & my research. You are so kind and I've been a fan of your content for awhile.
This comment made my day. Thank you for watching my content!!!
Veiling no matter the religion, nuns or Islamic religions or any other, is often associated with forced modesty.
At least that is my understanding of it. Of course let people do as they please is my opinion. But still it isn’t all islamaphobia.
Some of the criticism is from the history of sexism modesty and how far societies go in forcing modesty on others.
Just a layperson’s opinion though.
I agree with that, but I think I’ve seen that narrative the most around Islam and those who wear the hijab, at least in my experience. I know that there’s a lot of racism, prejudice, & islamophobia around black & brown individuals wearing a veil or head covering when I rarely face a second glance while wearing a veil (minus the occasional comment).
@@ChaoticWitchAunt yeah that’s definitely true.
I’d go further and say it’s associated with forced modesty FOR WOMEN. Every culture has some expectations of modesty but it’s seldom men who are expected to cover more of their bodies.
It’s very interesting to hear from people who don’t veil for modesty though! I’ve been guilty of assuming people’s motivation for wearing them and obviously I shouldn’t do that. Thank you for making the video and broadening my mind :)
Yeah the whole female modesty indoctrination I DON’T vibe with. That’s cultural sexism. But veiling for personal fashion preference or functional reasons or shielding negative energy cos of your faith etc. is fine. Your body your choice 🤷🏼♀️
There are many reasons I am starting to veil but here are my big 3
1) to protect my energy from the outside
2) to remind me of my practice
3) the pressure is comforting
In midieval Germany there was also the haube (hoy-buh) style of veil.
I'm also a pagan non-binary person who veils & it does make me feel very beautiful too, in fact many days I wake up excited to veil for the day- you can get very creative with it. I cover for a lot of the reasons you mentioned, but what's interesting to me is how veiling has really forced me to examine what modesty truly looks like/means for me. I used to try to force myself to wear tank tops & shorts in an effort to grow more comfortable with my body, because I was so uncomfortable in it I always wanted to cover it up, but trying to step out of my comfort zone like that never actually helped & I eventually realized, why am I trying to "expose" myself when it makes me so uncomfortable? If I'm more comfortable by covering more, who cares? Granted I think there's a difference in covering in order to hide & covering because you're genuinely more comfortable, but I feel as though covering what feels right to me is a way to take back my personal power & honor my "temple". It's an interesting & deeply personal topic to explore that's different for everyone.
Haube is not pronounced hoybuh 😶 idk where you got that from. It's how buh.
I am also just a lot more comfortable in bigger and longer clothes most of the time, I rarely wear tops without sleeves or tight ones.
I also have adhd and I feel like it also helps me redirdct my focus and block out spiritual distractions like weird energies or entities!
Just yesterday I was watching your TikTok playlist on veiling lol
I've been thinking about veiling lately. Not only for spiritual purposes but because it's a tradition that used to exist in my country (Spain) and it's slowly disappearing so I feel like it could connect me with my ancestors in a way
Tradition is also one of the reasons I veil, but I do see it as spiritual because ancestor worship is a part of my practice.
Veils are so versatile, some people use a head veil, did you know some kindergarten teachers use aprons to veil themselves while working with children all day long? Veils are dope.
Veiling is very important to me and my practice. I feel more like myself when I veil and I feel more connected to my practice and my deities but I’m still early in my practice and am often insecure about it. I’ve had someone at school pull my veil off and then tell me I looked better without it but this video and these comments have made me feel better about it so thank you
wtf so rude of them! dont stop veiling bc some asshole was rude to you though.
I loved this video, learned so much! I’m Jewish and beginning my witchcraft journey, and am considering veiling for those reasons. Just wanted to let you know, the ch in tichel is pronounced more guttural, kind of rolling it in your throat. 🥰
On the Jewish headcoverings, watch Chana over at Jar of Fireflies.
Thank you so so much!
LOVE Chana! Her channel is a favourite of mine!
I am a pagan nun and veil part time, both for spiritual and for sensory reasons. There is a growing movement of pagan people who wear head covering of various sorts, so it's nice to see more videos popping up outside the few Facebook groups I've seen.
I am against any tradition that tries to conform woman to veil. Modesty veiling, cast veiling, religious veiling, humility veiling, concentration veiling to me sound like cultural impositions to Control woman because all those motivacions boils down to "she needs to veil because others are looking at her and we can't have that" and say woman need veiling for x y or z should ask why women need veils to x y and z and men don't?
But If you want to veil to protect from the wind, sand, salt, sun, dust, leaves, because you feel pretty, go ahead.
I feel It is wrong when others shun woman for wearing or not wearing the veil.
100% agree!
i have ASD and veiling (along with some earplugs) makes me feel ok enough to get out of the house without getting a meltdown or panick attack... and if its still too much, some dark sunglasses can be a big difference :)
love your channel, its nice to see other italian witches! im sicilian, and i remember my family doing lots of witchy things as a kid, one of the first ones i remember was my uncle using a rosary as a pendulum to predict the sex of my unborn cousin :p
sending love 💚🤍❤️
I just got to know you a few days ago in Olivias video actually and just kinda followed you... Now this is the first video I watched from you and I identify with this soo much. Thank you, thank you, thank you for making this video!! It is the story I didn't knew I needed. I like veiling too, and I usually do it when at home or walking with my dog. I would love to start veiling in school as well, but sometimes when I tried I got a lot of weird looks. I guess I'll just start out with bandanas again, no one ever complained when I wore those.
I really just feel a sense of security when I veil, plus just feeling beautiful and that I take care of myself.
I found a lot of understanding in this video, I got to understand a part of myself. Thank you very much- I am still a babywitch in the closet, and I really needed to hear this.❤❤
I veil for modesty, personal safety(feeling), a symbol of my spirituality, and as a shield!
Weirdly enough I use headphones to veil. For me it's not so much covering my head as much as it is closing off my ears to the excess noise and attention asked of me from the world.
I find if I'm not wearing large black headphones over my ears people will literally throw their problems suffering, commentary and emotional energy my way.
If. I'm feeling like that's not enough then I do just drop a scarf right over my head in no particular manner so it covers my ears and reduces peripherals so nobody can't "catch my eye" and try to take my energy and attention.
I do appreciate you not head wrapping in more traditional black/African styles as especially for me it's an aspect of heritage not faith.
I don’t know a lot about veiling (or spirituality in general, but that’s besides the point) but even before I started looking into it I always felt drawn to it without knowing why and this comment just made me realize that I’ve been using my headphones as a veil before I even fully understood what that was.
watching this again a year later as i am revisiting my veiling practice as a celtic folk practitioner, bless you for making this and doing so much research
You have no idea how much I am thankful to you for bringing the concept of veiling in my life. I was aware of Muslim people covering their hair and always found it beautiful. I wanted to practice that , but never could because I believed it was not sensitive of me , considering I do not share their religious belief. I could never take the practice out of the religion. As of today I’ve been veiling for 5 months with bandanas and I couldn’t be happier! I feel comfortable, collected and protected. It definitely works wonders to shield from anything. So thank you so much for being such an inspiration and life changer ❤️ p.s. The video is amaaaaazing
thank you for the education on veiling in your practice! lots of great info. love your videos! 🖤✨🌞
This is ISLAMICALLY the purpose of Hijab, not the CULTURAL reasons it can be used. Very different.
Hijab (a term for overall veiling coverage for the entire body, and a headscarf) is quite literally expressing visual boundaries, or visual wards. Islam took after many influences including east asian religions. Beauty is seen as a bad thing, in a sense, because it clouds ones perceptions of your words or the actual substance of character. So in veiling, its said to be a way to be heard more than you're seen, and for your voice to speak louder than your face. In another way, beauty is considered an item, or a possession that by showing somebody, you give to them, and so these are also frowned on giving it to strangers or people who arent important in your life.
I really enjoyed your video, learning about the history of other religions and cultures. I have occasionally worn scarfs on my head bc I was drawn to. I am going to lean into that feeling when it comes up and be more international about veiling. Your veils are beautiful. Thank you!
Part of my cultural identity is Sephardic romaniote/italikm (Sephardic Greek and Sicilian)
Sephardic is a Jewish ethic division
Romaniote (Greek Jew) Italkim (Sicilian Jew)
I veil (tichel) to remind myself of g-d and it’s also protects my energy/evil eye (ayin)
(In a Kabbalistic concept and Jewish tradition)
It’s also a sign of respect to show your commitment
I have CPTSD and autism and I love hats, I’d never thought of this before. Thanks for sharing!
this may be too personal a question for you to answer and thats okay, but I thought i'd ask anyway. a lot of veiling talks about women and modesty, what is your take on this as someone who does not identify as a woman?
for me I enjoy wearing my veil but i worry I'm perceived as more feminine rather than more masculine. do you know of any sources of masc-aligned people and veiling? (if not its okay, i just can never find any sources)
I wore a black lace veil to work one day and my boss asked me who I was mourning and I just responded with "well its actually to keep your negativity from affecting me" that shut her up pretty quick lol and it worked
As a woman who was raised Jewish and is now a witch, I still cover my head at times, for many reasons. Sheitel is more shytul. It depends if you are speaking Hebrew or Yiddish too. As a society we talk about being open and being accepting of wearing what you want, but it seems that it's a pick and choose type thing. Why do we worry so much about what someone else chooses to wear?! So many cultures veil for so many reasons. I love the diversity!
can any gender veil outside of Islam & Christianity? I am transgender ftm but I still feel more safe and comfortable veiling.
I'm worshipping Hades too, and don't find many resources on it. Part of me loves it because it makes it feel more intimate, but if you'd be willing to speak more on that, I'd love hearing your experience so far.
I’m a male and I veil , sometimes I’ll let my hair down and be free , I don’t really like the attention I get without my veil , people adore my hair and that annoys me lol
If you don’t mind me asking, what type of veils do you wear? Im interested in maybe starting to veil.
Thank you so much for this! I am unable to veil as often as I'd like, I am in a technical school and I have to go out to a nursing home, and I am not allowed to wear anything on me head- So I've thought about programming a hairtie or something to substitute as a veil. Also, I get super insecure about veiling, and thinking people are going to make fun of me- so there's that :c
This should work with either a hair tie or a barrette or a hair stick or even a piece of jewelry if you charge it with your intent.
I'm sorry to hear they won't let you veil! I don't mean to sound presumptuous, but I have the urge to ask if you're in the US? If so, if you express that you veil for religious reasons they should make a exemption for you, if they follow the law. (We do have freedom of religion, after all.) Another option might be to ask if you can wear a scrub cap? I work in healthcare too and whenever I work with covid patients I wear a homemade scrub cap as part of my ppe.
Thank you so much. I feel way more comfortable when I'm veiling to but unfochantly my school doesn't allow it. And when I get home from school I j get so tired and I've absorbed everyone's energy and it sucks.
I have strong asian roots but i live in Europe, for me veiling is honoring my culture, roots and ancestors. (Our hair is a sacred)
Because i identify as genderfluid i do have my hair cut short, i use a veil as a nod to my ancestors and as a reminder where I'm from.
Love your content!!
Blessed be.
Thanks for the informational video👍🖤🖤🖤
I need to know what tea you’re drinkin because the reaction made me wanna try it instantly.
Can male empaths and pegan witches veil?
Yes for sure! There’s lots of instances of male veiling throughout history.
I don't have veils but I have a large collection of beanies I wear every day some with sigils stitched inside. Privileged that no one bats an eye at a dude in a beanie.
I just realized that I feel so much better when I'm wearing my bonnet inside. I started wearing them to keep my hair from getting greasy and oily so fast. Then I realized I kept wearing them even when my hair was already greazy and oily. I didn't even realize I was still doing that. I started veiling during readings because someone mentioned it was a good idea to protect from what might be coming from behind you. It seems so logical to me so I started wrapping my hair in a scarf during readings and using my bonnets during readings. I immediately got better results. Veiling is not talked about enough in witchcraft circles. It's not for everyone but I think for some people it is for them and people are not getting the information.
I come from a traditionally sunni muslim turkish family. That said, thank you for your sensitive and empathetic way of including the islamic veil. As a male, I can't say a lot, tho. Just thank you. I'd love to see how you'd describe the spread of the nazar/evil eye bead through history. 💖
Wearing hoods and head coverings started as a n autistic sensory issue for me. It helped block stuff out along with dark glasses. When I saw some of your videos about veiling your experiences also made sense to me. I keep meaning to put sigils in my hoods and hats but I keep forgetting. Hopefully saying it "out loud" like this will help me remember.
Love the video and respect your choice to veil. Reminds me of my great grand mother ad her babushkas.
I’m autistic and I accidentally started veiling. It’s something that I’ve grown to love and have even made my own beanies to use as temporary veils.
I love that you mentioned how the himation was a way of carrying the home with you. It’s why so many devotees of Hestia wore (and still wear) them. A way of carrying that protection and devotion with them in a visible way.
This makes me want to make a "home" sigil and write it into my veil.
I am very interested in this. At least, for rituals like that of the moon phases. 🌙 I definitely relate to you when you said it makes you feel "safe" like a blanket. I feel that way towards masks.
It helps my headaches to and I thought that was just me
I just started intentionally veiling. It's super common to cover your hair in Black american culture so I always have to some degree but recently my ancestors have asked me to start doing it more intentionally to honor them so I've fallen down the pagan veiling rabbit hole to learn why others veil.
Veiling has nothing to do with modesty for me either. It's to honor my ancestors and protect my crown/hair.
I am dabbling a bit in Paganism, and as someone who has adult diagnosed ASD, I have sensory issues. I feel most comfortable out in public when I'm wearing a beanie and/or a hoodie. For me, it is mental, physical, and now a spiritual comfort. Now I understand a bit more about it thanks to this video.
I’ve been thinking about veiling for a while. I’m an empath and recently I’ve been finding it hard to separate myself from those around me and being in public has been exhausting to me because of that as well as being autism/adhd and finding people overwhelming. I haven’t started yet but I learned it from my friend who also does veiling for empathy but also because they’re catholic (kinda, their family is but they are only loosely tied). I wanted to learn more before I started so this helps a lot with that
Also I do a lot of crochet and I LOVE making hats and bandannas so adding a bit of crochet based knot magic in there as a reminder and excuse for more practice is great.