Not a good example really. The woman on the left isn't forced to wear what she's wearing. She had the freedom to choose what to wear whereas the woman on the right is wearing what's required for her to wear based on her political ideology. The question is, would the woman on the right choose to wear what she is wearing if not for the religion imposed on her?
are you saying that muslims are forced to wear the Hijab? Islam has NEVER forced a woman on something like that, infact, islam FORBIDS forcing a woman to wear a scarf, and it states that woman should only wear it if they're 100% aware of why they should wear it and WANT to wear it. Yes we do beleve that there are circumstances for those who decide to not wear it, however it is wrong to force a woman to wear these type of clothes. Do not draw your own conclusions on something you are not aware of.
Why is it normal for girls to walk half naked, but if a girl is full covered it's wrong. Even if i was given the option to not wear a scarf, i wouldn't feel comfortable wearing something as revealing as this. There are people who treasure their PRIVACY, and i am one of those people, in my OPINION.
Islam actually denies the reality any value higher than Islam itself. Islam essentially acts as a substitute God because it is presented as the will of God for all mankind for all time. Religion, as normally conceived, regards the will of God, outside a few general moral injunctions, as a matter for each individual to discover. In Islam, the “will of God” is a set of rules governing the most minute and personal aspects of behavior. The individual is sacrificed at every stage of his life for the sake of Islam. All of life is thought to be a test of the willingness to sacrifice happiness (which means, in effect, the pursuit of truth, goodness and beauty) for a promise of life in the hereafter. The exercise of individual freedom and the pursuit of value through either the questioning of Islam or leaving Islam are both viewed as treason and are punishable by death. That way, ideas dangerous to Islam are not spread among the collective - which is often described as one body. In Islam the collective is always elevated above the individual. The rough edges of individuality must be suppressed in order that Islamic society will run smoothly. We can see quite clearly that for women, at least in public, individuality is entirely erased by the veil. From . Allah is Dead: Why Islam is Not a Religion
Thank you for explaining cultural relativism, I was having trouble trying to get the big picture behind this concept.. Now I have a better understanding.
@@akilfletcher4157 No ethnocentrism is the opposite of cultural relativism. Ethnocentrism means that we judge people of other cultures based on our culture, cultural relativism is when you refuse to hold people of other cultures to the standards of your culture. So cultural relativism tells us that throwing gays of buildings, slavery and genocide are okay as long as the people doing it are from a different culture.
Serious question here. Judging someone in light of the cause and effect they've experienced within their particular culture...sounds healthy and correct. But since CULTURES ARE MADE OF IDEAS, and not all ideas are equally painful/less, aren't some cultures better than others? Thx.
Cultures are not all equal. There are simple ways to determine which cultures are better than others. We can and should judge cultures. The British judged and stopped the practice of Sati in India. The West African cultural practice of abandoning new born baby twins in the forest to die should be judged and criticized. Lets stop pretending that there is no way to tell which practices are better and offer better results. Your feelings are getting in the way of your logic.
The problem is that we cannot step outside our own culture, so inevitably, even if we try our best to be impartial, we are always judging cultures from the point of view of our own, which is just one among many. This doesn't mean that everything should be considered acceptable, though, but maybe we could try to adress this issue in a different way. Instead of saying "this culture is better than the other" we could simply say "well, we consider this practice to be wrong an unacceptable, even considered its cultural background, so we are going to banish it or act against it". My point is: there is really no need to judge other cultures in order to stop things from happening.
Um, I'm living in France and no, people do not drink wine with every meal and absolutely do NOT let children drink wine. This is such an ignorant thing to say for a sociologist.
There certainly is some truth to your example of how the two women are judging each other based on their own cultural beliefs. The example is maybe a little bit exaggerated, but it gets your point across. I just wanted to add that these two different viewpoints could also exist between members of the same culture. The fact that people tend to compare others actions and decisions to their own is undeniable, but the problem I have with cultural relativism is that it tries too hard to generalize and group people into specific cultures and determine what the shared beliefs of that culture are. For example, you say how people in France drink wine with almost every meal, yet there most certainly is people in France who do not drink wine at all. I understand that you are just trying to make a point to explain what Cultural Relativism is, but I think your examples would be a little bit more realistic if they didn't generalize people's beliefs quite so much.
ethnocentrism is the concept of considering ones culture superior to other cultures while culture relativism is the concept of viewing the culture with her standards and values.
The cartoon explains Ethnocentrism, Cultural Relativism is one judges or to understand people by their cultural, which is the opposite of the ethnocentrism.
Its wrong to say French do that. It happens but it is very rare and limited. When parents do that is because they are letting the kids explore and taking a small sip NOT drinking a whole bottle or glass. Please don t think that French people do that...every country in Europe could be doing it. Italians and Spanish also produce wine. Also saying all french drink wine with lunch and diner is also wrong. Drinking wine with food is common when it is enjoyable...don t generalize like that because it sounds like you could also say all french wear marine t shirt and berret, ride a bike with a baguette under their arms and garlic on their back. And before you ask yes I am French
I really like the comic. Male tendency to attempt to control access to women and thereby optimize their reproductive success is extremely prevalent; however, the behaviors depicted in the comic do represent different attitudes towards women. If a woman is flaunting her skin she is soliciting the attention of males and inviting competition amongst suitors although one could argue that she is also lowering her value as if males know that she does this they may be less inclined to make a paternal investment. On the other hand, the islamic woman is in a society wherein women are prescribed much more modest clothing towards to the opposite end.
The comic suggests a sort of 'it doesn't really matter, it's equally right'. I would say the amount of freedom a western woman has is much greater than that of a muslim woman. OK, some young western women may feel forced to wear a bikini, but that's nowhere near as 'forced' as muslim women are to wear traditional clothing. And that's only talking about clothing, what about the choice what to do with your life and who to marry...
Those who promote cultural relativism are complicit in all the atrocities done in the name of irrational traditions, such as female genital mutilation, honor killings, and religious persecution of religious minorities in Muslim majority countries. They are also complicit in the political persecution of dissidents by authoritarian governments who claim cultural relativism as a motivation for not following international human rights standards, such as the People's Republic of China.
this example is not cultural relativism. islam is not a culture it is a religion the woman on the right can by any means also be american. this common misconception of islam being a culture is really stupid...
Some cultures are better than others,for example western culture of whites of european ancestry.(USA,Canada,Australia,NZ,Europe,S.Africa until recently etc)
That's a highly biased and ridiculous assumption, especially in light of how much the cultures listed have stolen from other cultures to incorporate into their own and take credit for themselves. This comment is proof of the effectiveness of propaganda.
WRONG! The Muslim woman is forced to wear the hijab against her will. The "American" western woman has chosen to wear the bikini... That example is not valid.
I would like you to respect my culture. My culture likes to eat women for breakfast. My culture has existed for only a short time, one day. It has only one member, me! On what grounds can you refuse me my breakfast?
Nothing's wrong with that, doe. You can express your discomfort of the other culture by your own comfort zone, but to forcefully control and to tell what to wear to certain culture is a moderate practice of colonialism.
@@felipemorano3350 sounded ok till you flashed the colonialism card. So, Africa wants vaccines, would sending them be colonial? Besides, much of the British Empire was one of conquest, not colonial at all.
Not a good example really. The woman on the left isn't forced to wear what she's wearing. She had the freedom to choose what to wear whereas the woman on the right is wearing what's required for her to wear based on her political ideology. The question is, would the woman on the right choose to wear what she is wearing if not for the religion imposed on her?
are you saying that muslims are forced to wear the Hijab? Islam has NEVER forced a woman on something like that, infact, islam FORBIDS forcing a woman to wear a scarf, and it states that woman should only wear it if they're 100% aware of why they should wear it and WANT to wear it. Yes we do beleve that there are circumstances for those who decide to not wear it, however it is wrong to force a woman to wear these type of clothes. Do not draw your own conclusions on something you are not aware of.
Why is it normal for girls to walk half naked, but if a girl is full covered it's wrong. Even if i was given the option to not wear a scarf, i wouldn't feel comfortable wearing something as revealing as this. There are people who treasure their PRIVACY, and i am one of those people, in my OPINION.
I would like to see a woman go out in a bikini in Saudi Arabia.
Islam actually denies the reality any value higher than Islam itself. Islam essentially acts as a substitute God because it is presented as the will of God for all mankind for all time. Religion, as normally conceived, regards the will of God, outside a few general moral injunctions, as a matter for each individual to discover. In Islam, the “will of God” is a set of rules governing the most minute and personal aspects of behavior. The individual is sacrificed at every stage of his life for the sake of Islam. All of life is thought to be a test of the willingness to sacrifice happiness (which means, in effect, the pursuit of truth, goodness and beauty) for a promise of life in the hereafter. The exercise of individual freedom and the pursuit of value through either the questioning of Islam or leaving Islam are both viewed as treason and are punishable by death. That way, ideas dangerous to Islam are not spread among the collective - which is often described as one body. In Islam the collective is always elevated above the individual. The rough edges of individuality must be suppressed in order that Islamic society will run smoothly. We can see quite clearly that for women, at least in public, individuality is entirely erased by the veil.
From . Allah is Dead: Why Islam is Not a Religion
why would u like to see that lol? they have a way of living, don't base it on the way girls around you live.
Thank you for explaining cultural relativism, I was having trouble trying to get the big picture behind this concept.. Now I have a better understanding.
Cultural relativism.
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How to justify murder, slavery and abuse of women / children.
bobbygnosis that's very thought provoking!
bobbygnosis Easy, you hold you tongue and smile. There won't be any justifying it to yourself. Law of the land.
Think you're confusing it with ethnocentrism...
@@akilfletcher4157 No ethnocentrism is the opposite of cultural relativism. Ethnocentrism means that we judge people of other cultures based on our culture, cultural relativism is when you refuse to hold people of other cultures to the standards of your culture. So cultural relativism tells us that throwing gays of buildings, slavery and genocide are okay as long as the people doing it are from a different culture.
Cultural relativism.
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How to justify murder, slavery and abuse of non northern and western European groups of people.
Serious question here. Judging someone in light of the cause and effect they've experienced within their particular culture...sounds healthy and correct. But since CULTURES ARE MADE OF IDEAS, and not all ideas are equally painful/less, aren't some cultures better than others? Thx.
Thi concept was very clearly explained in this video. Thanks for sharing.
Cultures are not all equal. There are simple ways to determine which cultures are better than others. We can and should judge cultures. The British judged and stopped the practice of Sati in India. The West African cultural practice of abandoning new born baby twins in the forest to die should be judged and criticized. Lets stop pretending that there is no way to tell which practices are better and offer better results. Your feelings are getting in the way of your logic.
Precisely - call a spade a spade , not a shovel
The problem is that we cannot step outside our own culture, so inevitably, even if we try our best to be impartial, we are always judging cultures from the point of view of our own, which is just one among many.
This doesn't mean that everything should be considered acceptable, though, but maybe we could try to adress this issue in a different way. Instead of saying "this culture is better than the other" we could simply say "well, we consider this practice to be wrong an unacceptable, even considered its cultural background, so we are going to banish it or act against it".
My point is: there is really no need to judge other cultures in order to stop things from happening.
Or cutting your foreskin here in American when you are 1 day old, nothing given for pain, you just scream, yeh, that kind of cruelty.
im an auditory learner and your video helped me understand a lot than our plain text module
Um, I'm living in France and no, people do not drink wine with every meal and absolutely do NOT let children drink wine.
This is such an ignorant thing to say for a sociologist.
is morality relative? is modern western culture morally sound or are we facing a spiritual crisis?
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So in cultural relativism, why must the majority always be right?
So happy i could understand it all, im brazilian but ur speaking is so clear that o could get 100%
Are you really who I think you are?
Thank you for your interesting video, just know that French people do not necessarily drink wine at every meals haha! A French girl ;-)
I just thought the same thing, especially the 'kids are given wine too' ... like a sip sometime but it's not a regular thing no...
Thanks for better explanation.. lots of respect
There certainly is some truth to your example of how the two women are judging each other based on their own cultural beliefs. The example is maybe a little bit exaggerated, but it gets your point across. I just wanted to add that these two different viewpoints could also exist between members of the same culture. The fact that people tend to compare others actions and decisions to their own is undeniable, but the problem I have with cultural relativism is that it tries too hard to generalize and group people into specific cultures and determine what the shared beliefs of that culture are. For example, you say how people in France drink wine with almost every meal, yet there most certainly is people in France who do not drink wine at all.
I understand that you are just trying to make a point to explain what Cultural Relativism is, but I think your examples would be a little bit more realistic if they didn't generalize people's beliefs quite so much.
But one woman can put on the burka if she wants, the other one cannot remove it
Why bring 'should' into it in the first place? Are Sociologists there to make and manage judgements?
Does comparative mythology count as cultural relativism? How about comparative martial arts?
The Arabic (male) world is very happy with cultural relativism...
How cultural Relativism is different from Ethnocentrism?
ethnocentrism is the concept of considering ones culture superior to other cultures
while culture relativism is the concept of viewing the culture with her standards and values.
The cartoon explains Ethnocentrism, Cultural Relativism is one judges or to understand people by their cultural, which is the opposite of the ethnocentrism.
That sounds right.
The purpose of this is to not show bias?
Sounds like the cultural relativist begs the question. Why is culture important at all in determining civil liberties, rights or human rights?
Its wrong to say French do that. It happens but it is very rare and limited. When parents do that is because they are letting the kids explore and taking a small sip NOT drinking a whole bottle or glass. Please don t think that French people do that...every country in Europe could be doing it. Italians and Spanish also produce wine. Also saying all french drink wine with lunch and diner is also wrong. Drinking wine with food is common when it is enjoyable...don t generalize like that because it sounds like you could also say all french wear marine t shirt and berret, ride a bike with a baguette under their arms and garlic on their back. And before you ask yes I am French
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You using the word "American" to describe one country and supporting Imperialism is totally ethnocentric
Some cultures are objectively worse then others. Cultures should be judged.
The Anglo-Saxon and Celtic cultures are objectively worse than other European groups. They should be judged.
@@richardthebloatedandgassyc564 prove it
I really like the comic. Male tendency to attempt to control access to women and thereby optimize their reproductive success is extremely prevalent; however, the behaviors depicted in the comic do represent different attitudes towards women. If a woman is flaunting her skin she is soliciting the attention of males and inviting competition amongst suitors although one could argue that she is also lowering her value as if males know that she does this they may be less inclined to make a paternal investment. On the other hand, the islamic woman is in a society wherein women are prescribed much more modest clothing towards to the opposite end.
The comic suggests a sort of 'it doesn't really matter, it's equally right'. I would say the amount of freedom a western woman has is much greater than that of a muslim woman.
OK, some young western women may feel forced to wear a bikini, but that's nowhere near as 'forced' as muslim women are to wear traditional clothing. And that's only talking about clothing, what about the choice what to do with your life and who to marry...
POV; your watching this cause you need to write your reflection paper about this video that your professor gave this link.
Thanks a ton! :)
Those who promote cultural relativism are complicit in all the atrocities done in the name of irrational traditions, such as female genital mutilation, honor killings, and religious persecution of religious minorities in Muslim majority countries. They are also complicit in the political persecution of dissidents by authoritarian governments who claim cultural relativism as a motivation for not following international human rights standards, such as the People's Republic of China.
thank you i finally understand this
Very well said
Thanks a lot😊
Well explained...
How to overcome cultural relativism?
Refer sociology class by Sayed bilal on you tube
this example is not cultural relativism. islam is not a culture it is a religion the woman on the right can by any means also be american. this common misconception of islam being a culture is really stupid...
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Thank you...!
Thank you!
Some cultures are better than others,for example western culture of whites of european ancestry.(USA,Canada,Australia,NZ,Europe,S.Africa until recently etc)
That's a highly biased and ridiculous assumption, especially in light of how much the cultures listed have stolen from other cultures to incorporate into their own and take credit for themselves. This comment is proof of the effectiveness of propaganda.
How bout Russia most of its material through the ages has comed from the motherland
WRONG!
The Muslim woman is forced to wear the hijab against her will. The "American" western woman has chosen to wear the bikini...
That example is not valid.
thank you
This must be a parody. I have never seen a video miss the mark by this much
"islamic muslim...."
sounds like cognitive dissonance.
R. Salinas cognitive dissonance is when your beliefs are challenged during new evidence. Ethnocentrism is cognitive dissonance
I would like you to respect my culture. My culture likes to eat women for breakfast. My culture has existed for only a short time, one day. It has only one member, me! On what grounds can you refuse me my breakfast?
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'that woman's clothing choices'..... clothing choices.... choice?
What exactly is wrong with judging other cultures? We cannot see the world through the eyes of another. Attempting to do so is disingenuous.
Nothing's wrong with that, doe. You can express your discomfort of the other culture by your own comfort zone, but to forcefully control and to tell what to wear to certain culture is a moderate practice of colonialism.
@@felipemorano3350 sounded ok till you flashed the colonialism card. So, Africa wants vaccines, would sending them be colonial? Besides, much of the British Empire was one of conquest, not colonial at all.
"muzzlum" bruh
Woman fouls
She sounded so boring I stopped listening
Propaganda.