NEW Fujifilm XF 16-50mm REVIEW: kit-zoom upgraded!

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  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 review: a new kit-zoom standard!
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    00:00 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 intro and rivals
    01:07 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 design and controls
    02:56 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 range
    03:14 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 aperture
    04:20 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 autofocus
    05:08 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 focus breathing
    06:00 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 landscape quality
    07:48 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 portrait quality
    08:48 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 vlogging quality
    09:34 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 bokeh quality
    10:34 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 macro quality
    11:35 - Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f2.8-4.8 verdict and sample images
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  • @emgee44
    @emgee44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The internal zoom mechanism is impressive for a lens of this size but at the loss of OIS. The addition of weather sealing however is welcome.

    • @slon74
      @slon74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Makes sense they removed OIS since Fuji now is implementing IBIS even in smaller bodies. For me, owning X-T2 and X-T10, no reason to upgrade my beloved 18-55.

    • @owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss
      @owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s probably more for the future and the current generation of xtrans bodies, older cameras would be better served with the older OIS kit lens. The IBIS has gotten good enough to largely replace the need for OIS, OIS is still nice to have for longer lenses because it can work in conjunction with IBIS to provide even more stability but for a kit lens like this which doesn’t zoom super far, I think IBIS is good enough. I think the internal zooming is a pretty substantial benefit and this lens seems a lot better for video than the older kit lens as well. The additional sharpness will help when future bodies likely will be 40mp by default.

  • @nieo777
    @nieo777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    An OIS test with previous vs none with IBIS would be a good comparison for vloggers. Thanks

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes, I'll try to do that. As I recall, the old one wasn't really great for vlogging with IS, plus it's not really wide enough.

  • @jan-martinulvag1962
    @jan-martinulvag1962 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    the 18-55 is sharpest at f10 always , so I keep it right there if I do landscapes

  • @jordanshipley448
    @jordanshipley448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video Gordon! One note on the aperture ring: they don’t do the labeled ring with hard stops on lenses like this lens because it’s a variable aperture, so it would need to mechanically change somehow as you zoom and the aperture shifts.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True, although they did do it on some old lenses in the film era

    • @jordanshipley448
      @jordanshipley448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cameralabs ohhh interesting. I did not know that. I’ll have to check that out and learn how that works. Thx.

    • @dan.allen.digital
      @dan.allen.digital 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cameralabsmy Canon FD 35-70 is variable aperture with a fixed marking aperture ring.

  • @stephanjurgens3766
    @stephanjurgens3766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great review as always Gordon :) For me there is nothing like the Tamron 17-70mm f2.8 on my X-H2, stabilized , gorgeous image quality, sharper than my 16-55mm (which I sold).

  • @RenNinja467
    @RenNinja467 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just found you by researching what my next lens should be. Thank you, so much for your time and attention to detail!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're welcome, hope you get a chance to watch more of my videos!

  • @paulyeung6608
    @paulyeung6608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The transition of the 18-55mm to the 16-50mm is very reminiscent of the fixed lens on the ZV-1 changing to the ZV-1 II. There must be some technical lens engineering reason. It just makes the Tamron 17-50mm and the Olympus 8-25mm a little more special for their fixed aperture and focal range.

  • @grumpyrocker
    @grumpyrocker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks like a great lens. I can't see me updating from my old 18-55. But if I was just joining the Fuji mount I'd definitely get a kit with one of these in. Another great video, thanks Gordon.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou!

  • @Apachers
    @Apachers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Rather difficult to put a labeled aperture ring on a lens which doesn't offer a constant aperture value acros all focal lengths.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Old lenses managed

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Apachers The Nikon 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED (The old version with red VR emblem and aperture ring). When the aperture ring is set to 4.5 there is a small dot at 5.6.

  • @Kliffot
    @Kliffot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That one won't be legendary like the 18-55 that I'm pretty sure !

  • @swonghobby
    @swonghobby 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great Review Gorden. Thx. Question. Between the New Fuji XF16-50 and Sigma 18-50 f2.8. The Sigma at 18mm seem to have a bit of distoration. I want to get a XT5 and a lens. Just not sure if I should wait for the XF16-50 or just buy the Sigma 18-50 now. Thank you

    • @jamesmlodynia8757
      @jamesmlodynia8757 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If you could afford the 16-55 F 2,8 , that would be a better lens for the XT5 or if you don't need F2.8 , the 16-80 F4 OIS is a good one, a little bigger than the other 16-50 or 18 -50mm. I have used the 16-80 f-4 on the XT5 and XT50 and it works quite well.

  • @majky358
    @majky358 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I switched from XF 18-55 (still keeping it) to XC 16-50 for size / weight reason and it's great, but outer zoom / speed is slow, a bit annoying for landscape photo, fine for travel.

  • @dominiclester3232
    @dominiclester3232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent, thanks! Your ruler test shots show edge performance so clearly.

    • @quikee9195
      @quikee9195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well.. that's only at the min. focusing distance, where many lenses show such performance due to field curvature, but when focusing further away in typical conditions, this becomes a non-issue. This is why you need to check the lens at multiple focusing distances.

  • @JasonVong
    @JasonVong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very detailed Gordon! On the fence to get the XT-50 with this new kit lens or the Sigma, but this confirms that I will pull the trigger on the Sigma!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or... buy the kit and sell the Fujifilm lens?

    • @maheshg212
      @maheshg212 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm in the same boat. That sigma has 2.8 but misses slightly on the wider start. Between £699 retail price of this lens and about £350 when bought as a kit, I will think about if selling on ebay etc is worth the time :-) but that's a good idea.

  • @neglectedloves
    @neglectedloves 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great and profound review of the new Fuji kit lens, thanks a lot! This is how it should be done 👏🏻

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!

  • @EamonnMcGonigle
    @EamonnMcGonigle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My X-T3 came with a fantastic 16-80mm constant f/4 which seems better in almost every way: faster throughout most of its range, better zoom range, has OIS. It is pretty compact for its capabilities. I still love that lens as my "walking around" lens.

  • @muratbasc8302
    @muratbasc8302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sharpness improvement erases some of the downsides for me. I mostly shoot stopped down as much as I can to get the maximum sharpness of the lens I use. So wide open shooting without sharpness loss would be a big bonus. Internal zoom and weather sealing in a kit lens are appealing too. It probably has horrible distortion characteristics in raw but if Fujifilm corrected them w/o sharpness loss and hold the promise of resolving 40 mp, it becomes the new king of kit lenses. A very attractive piece

  • @stanobert3475
    @stanobert3475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This sucker is sharp! I just obtained this lens.

  • @paulyeung6608
    @paulyeung6608 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish Fujifilm made something similar in equivalent focal range to something like the Tamron 20-40mm, 17-50mm, or Olympus 8-25mm. I’d even be happy if it was a constant F/4 or F.3.5-5.6. Something like an XF 11-33mm R LM WR or a 14-33mm R LM OIS WR would be a killer kit lens.

    • @o0YumRamen0o
      @o0YumRamen0o 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That would be XC 15-45 with a 22mm to 60mm equivalence

    • @paulyeung6608
      @paulyeung6608 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@o0YumRamen0o multiply the XC lens’s focal range by 0.73x, give it XF build quality/aperture ring, and you’d be right

  • @kaneclements7761
    @kaneclements7761 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 18-55 which I use on my X-E4.
    On my X-T5 I use a Tamron 17-70 f2.8. It is stabilised.
    It matches the venerable 16-55 for quality.
    If one can run to the extra cash it is a great option. Add a Fuji 70-300 and that is a great combo.

  • @jamesmlodynia8757
    @jamesmlodynia8757 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Today 10-31-2024, B&H photo has the lens on sale, 200 dollars off, price is 400 dollars before tax. This is about the price when purchased with the XT50 when released. the video told me everything that I needed to know, I picked it up to use as an everyday lens to use with the XT50 when i need something with more range than just a prime lens. I have the 16-55 f 2.8 first edition lens, on this camera, I wanted something smaller and lighter. the lens is not perfect but you get what you pay for and 400 dollars I feel is good for this lens.

  • @msandersen
    @msandersen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love to see a 3-way comparison between the 18-55mm, the new 16-50mm, and Sigma’s 18-50mm in terms of resolution and sharpness across the frame at wide, intermediate, and zoomed. So far, I haven’t seen anything to make me invest in a replacement for my venerable 18-55mm on an X-T3. Size and weight is an issue for walkabout photography, so Fuji’s old 16-50mm wasn’t worth it for me when most of my photos are in the f/5.6-8 range, but getting nice background blur zoomed in and close to a subject.
    For portraiture, I bought the 33mm f/1.4, which is a fantastic little lens, I haven’t used my 23mm and 56mm as much since I got it. In studio when using f/8 with flash, the 18-55mm does very well. Only if I was to upgrade my old camera (would love an X-T5, but price) would I consider upgrading the 18-55mm, in which case I’d love to know if the Sigma has the resolving power needed on 40Mp.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd like to see that too - it'd take about two weeks to make properly though and I don't think there's the views to support that amount of time.

  • @xmeda
    @xmeda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would like to see some 16-135/4 lens for APS-C systems .)
    Like Oly 12-100/4 equivallent. With similar corner to corner image quality and same build quality of course. :) Preferably for my Pentax, but it will be useful for all APS-C.

    • @samson40a
      @samson40a 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly that. The Olympus lens is great. Fuji needs an equivalent

    • @balboa0621
      @balboa0621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have an 18-120 f4, but it's a power zoom and generally poorly regarded optically

  • @simonxt5
    @simonxt5 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer a lens with a fixed click-stop aperture ring. Also be aware that Fuji have not yet fixed the XT5 manual focus peaking bug, so two of the three control rings are far from pleasing when used on an XT5

  • @richardturner81
    @richardturner81 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Gordon, thanks for the video, I may have missed it but is the lens constructed of mostly metal or plastic?

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No OIS or macro? The center sharpness of the old V2 16-50 3.5 is outstanding. Whenever I need quick and accurate, like selling an item.on Craigslist, I always use that lens.

  • @craigwilson1604
    @craigwilson1604 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i only have the 16-55 but i could be tempted with this been so small.

    • @FART-REPELLENT
      @FART-REPELLENT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're better off with the original 16-55 f2.8 as it has a constant f2.8 Aperture, unlike this new crap.

    • @heliogenesi
      @heliogenesi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FART-REPELLENT This is not a replacement for 16-55 on the line-up and the constant f2.8 is the reason it is so large and heavy which was OP's reason of considering this lens.

  • @dan.allen.digital
    @dan.allen.digital 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video! By chance did you compare the image quality of the XF 16-50 to the XF 16-55 2.8?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I couldn't get one in time! But I'll try for a future video

    •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cameralabs please also include 16-80.

    • @dan.allen.digital
      @dan.allen.digital 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cameralabsI'm thinking of selling my 16-55 2.8 and 16-80 for the new 16-50 or sigma 18-50 2.8. A video comparing the four zooms would be very helpful.

    • @henrikhelmers1412
      @henrikhelmers1412 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Based on the shots of the pie image quality is good-when stopped down. You could probably achieve additional corner resolution by disabling distortion correction in your RAW converter.

  • @alanc6416
    @alanc6416 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope Fuji release a new F2 WR LM version of 16mm or 18mm lens and under 200g. Because the new XF16-50 at 240g makes those primes redundant. Maybe the 18mm Mkii with WR and LM? That would be awesome.
    That being said, it doesn’t have to be pancake if the IQ is improved though.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Every time I see them, I ask for updated small primes. For me those are the best - or potentially best - parts of their system.

  • @zahifar3936
    @zahifar3936 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Firstly, I’m impressed by the bokeh of this lens. Much smoother than that of the 16-80. I also welcome the wider focal length. To me, that was an important feature missing from the 18-55. I also like the rubberised zoom ring. Ok, to keep the lens light and compact with its new design and wider start, and without adding too much optical compromises, it had to be made shorter and darker at the long end, and lose the OIS. Fine.
    A great option when bought as a kit.

  • @NotAnotherChannel_Channel
    @NotAnotherChannel_Channel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blown away that this internally zooms. Build looks great.

    • @mrmaxwell2176
      @mrmaxwell2176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not actually a genuine internal zoom

    • @NotAnotherChannel_Channel
      @NotAnotherChannel_Channel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mrmaxwell2176 “but actually” lol
      “Fujinon XF16-50mm f/2.8-4.8 with Internal Zoom (Will Not Extend when Zooming)”

  • @mrmaxwell2176
    @mrmaxwell2176 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Somehow I think the launch of this 16-50 will increase the price for used 18-55 and the Red Badge 16-55 f2.8. So I am keeping my two; both of which do a great job. By the way, the new 16-50 is not an internal zoom. Take a look at the 50 -140 to appreciate that technological marvel.

    • @Sjorezz
      @Sjorezz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrmaxwell2176 why? Wont ppl sell there 18-55s?

  • @sclogse1
    @sclogse1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just think of the combo of the old V2 16-50 3.5 with OIS and this T50 IBIS body...

  • @RyanH0809
    @RyanH0809 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some strange trade-offs. To me, not a huge upgrade over the original. Perhaps the most important updates for my use is the 16mm wide end, and the excellent close-focusing at the tele end, although 4.8 max aperture is a bit painful.
    Seems like a great lens nonetheless.

    • @andreabeccarisi1126
      @andreabeccarisi1126 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking the same. Before watching this video, I was leaning towards buying the new 16-50 in exchange for my current 18-55, since the latter one is not as wide and it's probably some busted elements that affect image quality at 55mm. But the new lens has no IS and the aperture scales down too quickly as you increase the focal length

    • @opalyankaBG
      @opalyankaBG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Half a stop of light is painful?

    • @Apachers
      @Apachers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@opalyankaBG I agree with your point. Half a stop of light - especially at those values - is practically irrelevant. And if this was tha price to be paid for making this lens so compact and non-extendable while zooming (that would be my guess), I'd say it was worth it.

    • @JungleCatImages
      @JungleCatImages 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Sigma is 2.8. Tamron 2.8, 16-55 2.8 so people deciding on the 18-55 are already making a compromise either to save some money or because they need OIS or an aperture ring.. so now that it's 4.8 and gets to f4 at 27mm it's even more of a compromise, which I think is gonna push people to Sigma/Tamron or stick with what they have

    • @Apachers
      @Apachers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JungleCatImages You seem to forget that this is a KIT lens. Majority of people will get it in a kit with a camera (for approximately $300). People who buy a camera with a kit lens are usually rather inexperienced photographers (who wanted to switch from their mobile to proper camera for one reason or another). This kit lens will usually be their first (and, in many cases, the only) lens. The difference between them and you or me (as well as almost all people watching reviews like this on YT or reading Fujirumors, etc.) is that they don't have such specialized knowledge about different lenses available for Fuji X mount, including third-party lenses. They don't make their purchasing decisions in a manner which you suggested in your comment (actually, they are often advised/manipulated by a seller in the store). So no - they don't make any compromises you mentioned since they are usually unaware of the alternative.
      Now, for those (semi)advanced photographers who are consciously looking for a universal, "holiday" zoom lens, I personally believe that Sigma 18-50 is a better alternative. But comparing this kit lens to either Fujinon 16-55 or Tamron 17-70 doesn't make much sense, in my opinion. Both of these latter lenses are much bigger/heavier and way more expensive. People who decide to buy one of them will usually not even consider buying this new kit lens (especially at its "standalone", rather ridiculous, price).

  • @ArteUltra1195
    @ArteUltra1195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just to give you some perspective on these „fast“ aps-c lenses, this one lets in less light and gives less blurry backgrounds and has a smaller zoom range than the Canon 24-105 f4-7.1

    • @traffbros
      @traffbros 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about sigma? Does canon 24-105 f4 weights the same? How about the price? How about overall system use fuji/canon? I owned both systems and I prefer fuji

  • @fincrattanaka4633
    @fincrattanaka4633 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So this is why Fujifilm’s APSC prices surpass other full-frame models?

  • @perigee1275
    @perigee1275 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmmm...less throw, no IOS, the samples lack 3 D pop. I'll stick with the old kit lens. Fuji is a little lost I think.

  • @deepanshurai4863
    @deepanshurai4863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, great vid. I just bought XS20 with this new kit lens. In your opnion which one is better if I compare the new XF 16-50mm f2.8-f4.8 with sigma's 18-50mm f2.8. I was thinking to sell the kit lens for a new sigma, would cost me nothing.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd get the Sigma

  • @albertobelfast
    @albertobelfast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    isn't it better to have both in-Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) on the camera body and Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) on the lens? Why would this lens be better than the XF 18-55? The new one is wider and lighter; the old one is faster and has OIS. I would go for the old one all the time. If then I want to go wider, I'd use the XC 15-45, even though it's slow.

    • @gabewebyt
      @gabewebyt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 18-55 can't fully resolve the new 40MB sensors, while the 16-50 can.

  • @mobysome
    @mobysome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice review! I've gotten one of this and thinking of getting a prime lens. Do you recommend 18 or 23mm?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My favourite is the 23 1.4 lm

    • @mobysome
      @mobysome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs thanks!

    • @mobysome
      @mobysome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs i went to a store today to try out 16-50 F2.8 and 23 F1.4 and they seem pretty similar for portrait. I can’t think of a reason for having another 23mm (I have the 16-50) other than very low light shots?

  • @ozuidema
    @ozuidema 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Due to the ridiculous stand-alone price, I cannot see many people buying this other than within a kit. If you want to upgrade from the 18-55, there is the Sigma 18-50 f2.8, which is 2,5 stops faster at the tight end, which is the difference between shooting at 1600 ISO (still good) and shooting above 6400 ISO (unusable). The Sigma, which is only 50 grams heavier at 290 grams, also has a much shorter close focussing distance (12 cm instead of 24) and it comes at 2/3 of the price of the new Fuji. The Fuji by comparison has weather sealing, internal zooming and an aperture ring; all nice, but to me, the Sigma seems much more attractive. I had expected more from the new kit lens.

    • @Sjorezz
      @Sjorezz หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sigma is not weather sealed, does not go to 16mm (which is noticeable wider than 18), lacks an aperture ring and has a cheap plastic feel while being 50g heaver…

    • @ozuidema
      @ozuidema หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sjorezz agreed. I was too quick in my initial judgment. Actually, I bought the Fuji since then 🥵.

    • @Sjorezz
      @Sjorezz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ozuidema
      Haha no problem! Haha I even forgot more differences in favor of the Fuji..
      The sigma is not / does not:
      - weather sealed
      - does not go to 16mm
      - internally zooms
      - lacks an aperture ring
      - has a premium metal outer body
      - is 50g heaver…
      So you got the xf 16-50? Do you like it?

  • @jamesstanley7263
    @jamesstanley7263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    They should have just updated the aesthetics of the old 18-55 and given it a square lens hood. Fuji lovers would have gone crazy for it!

    • @OttosTheName
      @OttosTheName 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Square hood looks great on a prime... on an extending zoom though?

    • @gamingsoups
      @gamingsoups 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yeah idk ab that... A square lens hood for a zoom lens is a little unorthodox...

    • @jangarcia1338
      @jangarcia1338 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He obviously was being sarcastic...

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OttosTheName Nikon 28-400. Doesn't look bad at all.

    • @balboa0621
      @balboa0621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can actually get one made by haogue

  • @hilalielhilali8287
    @hilalielhilali8287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good job. However Does the 16-50 lose focus while zooming in a video?!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I need to do more testing about that

  • @Hikebike365
    @Hikebike365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fuji seems to be going sideways or backwards. No OIS? Seems like this lens is a cost saving measure. Nothing more.
    Combined with the dopey dedicated FS dial on the xt50 and I'm VERY undecided on what I'll buy to replace my 2 older bodies that now have failing internal batteries

    • @OttosTheName
      @OttosTheName 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I take it they are only going to release IBIS bodies from now on... So this will be the new standard for new bodies. Resolving more resolution, weather sealing but ditching OIS because they want to sell new bodies. I get it, but personally I wouldn't get this kit lens because I won't be needing any body upgrades for a decade to come if my X-T3 keeps going. Bodies have been good enough for ages.

    • @Apachers
      @Apachers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All latest Fujifilm cameras have IBIS, therefore the lack of OIS in this lens is quite understandable and probably results from a strategic decision that has been made by the company. My guess is all Fujifilm cameras from now on will have IBIS and no new lenses will have it. It makes a lot of sense, since most people only own 1-2 bodie(s) but many lenses. It's more economic to pay a little bit more once (for a body) than paying more multiple times for lenses equipped in OIS. Having IBIS is also convenient for users of third-party lenses (including some old, manual ones).

    • @Hikebike365
      @Hikebike365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OttosTheName like my xt20 and xt2 your body will fail due to the internal battery and need service or replacement. Then you'll have to face the decision I'm looking at. I was interested in buying new but with all the focusing issues (I had an xh2 for 2 weeks), I'm thinking about Sony. Never thought I'd look elsewhere but the lack of progress is glaring.

    • @OttosTheName
      @OttosTheName 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Hikebike365 Oof I hope it's not a very common issue. I do see other people mention that problem. That would suck because I have like a thousand settings saved. I'd probably also shop elsewhere or fall back on my A6000 if it'd happen to me. Since I shoot BnW 95% of the time I don't mind the old Sony colors. (Also better ergonomics and light metering). I'd miss my 18-55 though... and I like the prime offering Fuji has, but that whole 'fuji cares' vibe has faded a little bit over recent years.

    • @Hikebike365
      @Hikebike365 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OttosTheName unfortunately it's not an if, but when..... Would have been better if they used a capacitor instead of a battery. My bodies are 7 years old. That's about when you can expect the camera to crap out. I thought I could live with it but it's a big PIA when it starts happening. Don't let that battery drain out. Meaning always keep a fully charged main battery inserted in the camera. Even during storage. And check it from time to time to keep it from going flat. That'll prolong the internal battery lifespan

  • @AZ-vt4zz
    @AZ-vt4zz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Color fringing is very low, on par with some of the latest lenses from fuji. Not sure about diffraction stars, should try to test for that. I mean, if you can't get shallow DoF, you can go the opposite.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I normally include a daytime diffraction spike test when the weather co-operates!

  • @kjltube
    @kjltube 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A lot of sensible upgrades over the previous model and a sensible choice, but I’m not sure it has the emotional pull the old model had.

  • @larrywhite8590
    @larrywhite8590 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well done as usual!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankyou!

  • @just_eirik
    @just_eirik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean, it doesn't make sense to have a marked aperture ring when the lens has a variable aperture. What would a ring like that look like?

    • @quikee9195
      @quikee9195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      well look at a manual vintage zoom lens with a variable aperture how it looks like :)

    • @just_eirik
      @just_eirik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@quikee9195 Didn’t know that existed. Marked rings on variable aperture lenses that is. Do you have an example?

    • @fotografalexandernikolis
      @fotografalexandernikolis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@just_eirik The Nikon 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED (The old version with red VR emblem and aperture ring). When the aperture ring is set to 4.5 there is a small dot at 5.6.

    • @just_eirik
      @just_eirik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fotografalexandernikolis That's very cool! I haven't had a lens like that.

  • @TroupeGoal
    @TroupeGoal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    does the floating aperture still mean the exposure changes when zooming while recording video?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It shouldn't if you were to lock it at a value that's smaller than the max at either end, say, f8. But in the past I've still seen some variable aperture lenses flicker as you adjust their zooms. I actually demo this early in the video where you can see some change in brightness even though the aperture was at around f8 as I recall.

  • @tjkrueger2655
    @tjkrueger2655 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mtf charts looking impressive

  • @matt88169
    @matt88169 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instead of an external pump zoom, it’s an internal! Pretty strange. It seems like an OK lens but frankly I think the 18-55 will live on. The Sigma lens is terrible.

  • @RM.TokyoPhotographer
    @RM.TokyoPhotographer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wondering when the 16-55mm F2.8 is gonna be replaced if they dont stick in OIS its gonna shock alot of people....since they removed OIS on the kit lense...the flagship better have it...

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think all new Fujifilm cameras will have IBIS

    • @el_fucko
      @el_fucko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The current 16-55 f2.8 already doesn't have OIS, brainiac...

  • @SJMPhotography
    @SJMPhotography หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the option to return my X-S20 with 15-45mm kit lens and get the X-S20 with the 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 kit lens instead, for an additional £230.
    My other option is to keep the 15-45mm and buy the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 in the future for £480.
    So the choice is:
    1. Keep the 15-45mm lens.
    2. Replace the 15-45mm with the Fuji 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 for £230.
    3. Keep the 15-45mm and buy the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 for £480.
    Which option would you take?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You haven't said what it is you want to do with it, and in what way you find the 15-45 limiting. You need to work that out before anyone can recommend something else.

    • @SJMPhotography
      @SJMPhotography หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs It seems my reply disappeared, maybe because I included a Web link. I like the size of the 15-45mm, and the wide angle, and the IQ is acceptable for me.
      However the 16-50 offers clearly better IQ, no motorised zoom and resale value (£600? Instead of around £130 for the 15-45mm) that seem to make spending the extra £230 a no brainer.
      On the other hand, while the Sigma 18-50 doesn't have the wider field of view, the constant F2.8 means I could potentially use this as an effective portrait/street photography lens at the telephone end in place of my Sigma 56mm 1.4

  • @jamesmynes1953
    @jamesmynes1953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sick video dude.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @Adi-hj3nd
    @Adi-hj3nd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want 23-70mm

  • @luxdalet
    @luxdalet 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic review Gordon!
    But now I am undecided... When Fujifilm had teased the lens in their previous event, I was sure to sell my Fujifilm 16-80mm f/4 to get this one, sacrificing the reach for more aperture and a more portable travel kit lens.
    Given the need of weather sealing, portability, and range, would you recommend selling the 16-80mm to get this new one? Or the Sigma? Or just keep it? XD

  • @karinjohnstone6690
    @karinjohnstone6690 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Help!! I have only just bought the Sigma 18-50 BUT now got the XT50 with the 16-50 kits lens. Should I send the Sigma back - is it mad to have both? Should I get rid of the kit lens? Help…

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why not try them both and keep the one you prefer?

  • @alanjcravophotography4149
    @alanjcravophotography4149 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No way I will sell my sigma 18-50 for this… sigma is a little beast, way cheaper…maybe I will sell it for the 16-55 2.8 MKii

  • @jaspervos4345
    @jaspervos4345 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent and honest review!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thanks!

  • @mrb888
    @mrb888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does this experience exposure stepping when zooming in and out?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I show it in the video

  • @danfarmer_photo
    @danfarmer_photo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great it’s a little wider, but that f4.8…. I’ll stick with my sigma.

  • @smoothgilla3203
    @smoothgilla3203 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It seems odd to prioritize adding weather sealing to a lens that will most often be paired with their non-weather sealed camera bodies.

  • @remektekmedia6641
    @remektekmedia6641 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lack of OIS is a show stopper for me.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's meant for newer bodies with ibis

  • @SpencerLupul
    @SpencerLupul 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    does it still refocus when you zoom it in/out during video? This was the video dealbreaker on the 18-55 😢

    • @atselykovskiy
      @atselykovskiy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you mean this was dealbreaker on Sigma 18-50?

    • @SpencerLupul
      @SpencerLupul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@atselykovskiy Both of them, in fact. they change focus and exposure during zooming which looks mega crap on videos

    • @atselykovskiy
      @atselykovskiy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpencerLupul 18-55 is effectively parfocal and shows steps in exposure only if its aperture is not wide open

    • @SpencerLupul
      @SpencerLupul 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@atselykovskiy if that’s the case I would buy it again! But I always had an issue with the focus shifting during zoom. Not because of parfocal-ness or not, but because it was re-autofocussing during zoom

    • @atselykovskiy
      @atselykovskiy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpencerLupul I did some tests, 18-55 is effectively parfocal, as well as 16-50/3.5-5.6, 15-45 and 18-120.

  • @pokpokishification
    @pokpokishification 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it worth getting this new kit lens with an xt50 if i still have the old xf18-55? Some of the reviews say this keeps up with the 40megapixel cams but I don't know if that's just bs and the 18-55 is still decent enough

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sometimes zooms are sold cheaper in bundles, in which case it can be wroth getting one even just for resale. But if it's near to full price and you have the 18-55 2.8-4, i'd probably stick with it.

    • @pokpokishification
      @pokpokishification 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs thanks. i did end up getting only the xt50 body and plan to use the old 18-55 with it. i might go for it someday if it ever becomes cheaper. the additional price for that right now is too much even when bundled with the xt50. i can just imagine how much it would cost if they sold it by itself. i also just remembered i still have the old xc 16-50 (apparently it came with OIS too) that came with the xa1, my first fuji mirrorless that i've forgotten about

    • @snsokstan1
      @snsokstan1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @pokpokishification I traded my 18-55 for the new 16-50 for my X-T5. For most of what I shoot (outdoor, landscape), the 18-55 was a great lens. The one benefit to the 16-50 that's meaningful to me is that I can crop down on an image and still get decent resolution. That makes up for the loss of 5mm on the long end. The gain of 2mm on the near end has been a significant benefit. I also like that it's a tad lighter.

  • @andrewcrossley2448
    @andrewcrossley2448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good review

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @mixeddrinks8100
    @mixeddrinks8100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am I the only one who wants to know how this compares to the 16-80 F4 instead? Similar in price and range.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good question, I'll try to do a comparison in the future

  • @chouandsherrie
    @chouandsherrie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sigma f2.8 or this .. which would you opt for ?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Did you watch the video?

    • @JungleCatImages
      @JungleCatImages 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends on what you shoot.. personally I'd go for the Sigma because I want a lens that is versatile.. 2.8-4.8 might be ok if you only shoot in the day or in good light.. but 4.8 is not gonna work in a lot of low light situations

    • @DarkPa1adin
      @DarkPa1adin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      if you buy it as a kit lens, this
      if you buy it separately sigma 2.8

  • @StewartBairdPhoto
    @StewartBairdPhoto 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still waiting for Gordon to not to a quality post 🤓 always good.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, glad you like them!

  • @NathanHassani-kr4bh
    @NathanHassani-kr4bh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the image quality as good as the XF 16-55 2.8 LM WR? I want to sell the 16-55 for this, it's too heavy.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unlikely. You have one of the best quality lenses, whereas this is a lighter, cheaper option

    • @NathanHassani-kr4bh
      @NathanHassani-kr4bh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs I don't understand, why is it so expensive for a kit lens if if the quality isn't as good as the red flag fuji lenses like the 16-55mm, £700 isn't cheap

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NathanHassani-kr4bh I agree, £700 isn't cheap, but as I explained, it's meant more for buying in a bundle with a new body, at which point it's priced at almost half that. AND it's still brand new, so not discounted either. The 16-55 2.8 is about £900 now, discounted, and a much higher-end lens.

  • @franciskikomanliclic
    @franciskikomanliclic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have tested this lens with my xs20 and the focus breathing is unbearable. I tried every settings whereas my 18-55 is far better with AF. Maybe this lens is not calibrated with previous cameras? but xs20 is pretty recent. Not sure what am I missing but hopefully they'll be able to fix with new firmware.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you sure it's this exact one? I didn't think it was out yet. Do you mean the old XC version or this new XF version?

    • @franciskikomanliclic
      @franciskikomanliclic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs yes, have you tried this lens with other body other than xt50?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@franciskikomanliclic I haven't yet, but I'll give it a go and see. Are you a tester or a reviewer? Fujifilm tells me it isn't in the shops yet. Where did you get yours?

  • @budthecyborg4575
    @budthecyborg4575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:38 So if you want to use the new lens like a 2.8-4.0 aperture it's got a range of 16mm to 42mm.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes

    • @f.iph7291
      @f.iph7291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "updated"

  • @frankartale1026
    @frankartale1026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why would Fujifilm handicap "the kit lens" to f4.8 with no OIS. I'll take the 18-55 all day

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because it's designed for the newer bodies with IBIS.

    • @frankartale1026
      @frankartale1026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs i understand that but the apertures are too small

  • @Nearest_Neighbor
    @Nearest_Neighbor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Fuji should be ashamed for themselves bringing this as successor to the 18-55.

    • @ArteUltra1195
      @ArteUltra1195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lets in less light than the canon rf 25-105 f4-7.1

  • @mariobnc1995
    @mariobnc1995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you use films, you must stop making zooms that exceed 3x. I would like the same quality of the gfx lenses to find them also on APSC but it seems that they do everything they can to avoid doing so. Fujifilm isn't capable of making zoom lenses without making a lot of compromises

  • @Motiman
    @Motiman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Should have made it 16-55/2.8-4 with OIS instead

    • @AdamJRichardson
      @AdamJRichardson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which would have been larger, heavier and more expensive. Since IBIS is getting built into all Fuji bodies by the look of it, going forward it makes sense to have the lens be smaller and less expensive.

    • @Motiman
      @Motiman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamJRichardson i agree with you on that. They are giving IBIS in almost every new camera now but from what I have seen, IBIS is not as good as the OIS when it comes to shooting videos. Surely, if fuji improves IBIS and makes it comparable to panasonic, then it would make sense

    • @Motiman
      @Motiman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AdamJRichardson as a travel cinematographer and filmmaker, I was hoping they would update the 16-80 lens and fix the focus wobble issue. That lens covers the perfect focal range along with top notch OIS

  • @jaegerschtulmann
    @jaegerschtulmann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truly disappointing that Fuji can't make their new lenses focus better for video on their latest cameras. =(

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think its the body's fault, not the lens

    • @jaegerschtulmann
      @jaegerschtulmann 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs I concur, it might very well be a camera body problem. Sigh

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    1 word
    Over priced

    • @ACD54
      @ACD54 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Er - that's two

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ACD54 lol

    • @f.iph7291
      @f.iph7291 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      6 words
      I'm happy with my XT30ll

    • @d.k.1394
      @d.k.1394 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@f.iph7291 lol

  • @d.k.1394
    @d.k.1394 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely

  • @天下為公1911
    @天下為公1911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A decent upgrade, but bullshit price.

  • @TungstenOvergaard
    @TungstenOvergaard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fuji is working for Sigma. If not, this is is not understandable.

  • @jylphoto
    @jylphoto 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it just me or does this lens feel like more of a downgrade? I'm curious how it'd be in the real world, but no OIS and losing half a stop of light zoomed in seems like too much to give up. I guess this lens would be nice for gimbal users because of the internal zoom and because they wouldn't need OIS anyways. WR is a nice addition, but my 18-55 has been holding up fine in light rain.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's designed for current and future bodies which all have IBIS.

  • @balboa0621
    @balboa0621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, the way that the aperture closes as you zoom is really, really bad.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most variable aperture lenses are similar

    • @balboa0621
      @balboa0621 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameralabs no, not this bad. The 18-55 didn't close down nearly that quickly. And the Tamron 28-200 doesn't go past f4 until somewhere after 70mm

  • @jonesnax
    @jonesnax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really don't see it as an upgrade. Slower + less range...

  • @robincphoto
    @robincphoto 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got mine today, and disappointed. The body is mainly plastic, quite overpriced since it is priced quite close to the amazingly well built 23mm r lm wr

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most new lenses are made with plastic these days,

  • @H99x2
    @H99x2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why isn't it a constant 2.8 like the Sigma or Tamron.. what a joke

    • @gamerw1zz
      @gamerw1zz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's a kit lens 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @LightSkinJedi1920
      @LightSkinJedi1920 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it was with internal zooming it would be incredibly huge and would make multiple lenses in their lineup irrelevant and they're not gonna do that to themselves

  • @ourtvchannel
    @ourtvchannel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shocked how bad Fujifilm autofocus in video still is.

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That massive exposure stepping at 3:00. Classic Fooj 🤣🤣 This is not an internal zoom - you can clearly see the lens elements moving while exposed to elements. An internal zoom has a sealed body with everything contained inside.

    • @RandumbTech
      @RandumbTech 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@djstuc 👮🚨Alert, Alert! Fuji fanboy police inbound 😀

    • @el_fucko
      @el_fucko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RandumbTech Christ, your channel is depressing. Two years worth of shameless clickbaiting and still a subscriber count in the triple digits...

  • @jeffreywjpn
    @jeffreywjpn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This new lens makes no sense at all. Compared to the 18-55 it’s worse in almost every way and for what reasons? To get weather sealing? It’s a kit lens and will primarily be used on the x-t50 which is not weather sealed. The other bodies people are using better lenses than this. Unnecessary weather sealing at the expense of ois and slower aperture with less depth of field. Why did they waste their time on launching this? They could have put the effort towards something else that people actually want.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the edge frustration Sigma doing here? Also this supposed to be a review but no info on corner sharpness. The rest is brochure fluff we can read ourselves.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are you blind? I covered corner sharpness in detail in my landscape section!

  • @alexbenstead5922
    @alexbenstead5922 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like the XT50 the new 16-50 makes absolutely no sense. Fuji are becoming greedy and obviously are now basing themselves on all the bad bits of the Sony model. I was considering rebuying a Fuji but based on recent announcements and rumours, forget it.

  • @kermitage
    @kermitage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice downgrade by Fujifilm 😂

  • @kaplangoz
    @kaplangoz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Xf16-50mm is a garbage lens, fuji has to offer better lenses to kill sigma 18-50 f2.8 and sigma 10-18 f2.8 lenses. The Xf16-50mm has a bad AF, its length is not enough for vlogging and videe, its aperture is not wide enough. I have xs10 and happy with it, I still prefer xf18-55. Poor Fuji!