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Noctua 15g2 and 7900xtx have 9800x3d coming Jan 11th to 14th thanks to u and 6000mhz 64gb high end ram but I have 32gb 6400 i got free with x870 mobo sale for $303 have every thing else
that is interesting build, I have the 7800x3d and 4080, I wonder which would have more fps? I know the 9800x3d can push more fps, but i dont know how much the gpus would limit the fps, being close in the same gen. You probably would get more at 1080p , and i would get more at 4k, i guess. Its kinda hard to say.
I also have that GPU. I just put it in my existing PC which has a Ryzen 9 5900x. I have 128GB of RAM. I do a bit more than gaming and the extra RAM is great for what I do.
My TI Super is paired with a 5800x3d and this is the uplift needed for me to buy into a new platform. I'm in hope of AMD releasing a GPU that is an upgrade to this 4070 otherwise I'm stuck with Nvidia.
Honestly with the Ryzen 7800x3d being only $20 cheaper right now (and maybe into Black Friday?) you might as well shoot for a 9800x3d. Especially given that the 9800x3d keeps being put back up for listing and saying it’s in stock.
@@PCBuilderChannel No problem just a few weeks ago I grabbed a 7900GRE and actually you suggested I upgrade to a 5700x or better from my current 5600x.. So I'll be grabbing this by Friday, and if its a black friday sale item newegg refunds the difference.
@Thanoric That is true as it's constantly on sale, but if you're still running AM4 and getting a 5700x3d, it's strictly for gaming, and you really don't need a higher performing kit than that.
I was able to find a 7800x3d on a walmart shelf of all places for $399 right now. I still feel like thats a bit high,especially compared to just a few months ago, but compared to everywhere else its much lower. I'm hoping that somewhere has it for $350 or less in the next few weeks so i can price match it.
I got that 7600X and SSD the other day which was great. But I was doing a Steel Legend build and the B650 mobo went bye bye on Amazon before I could click buy and hasn't been back since anywhere, which sucks. Switched it out for a Project Zero build.
Greetings from Germany, over here i can't find a 9800x3d under 700$ its crazy everything sold out and everything completely overpriced.... I envy you Americans when it comes to all the pc components, i have checked prices on GPU's aswell everything is cheaper and more accessible over there.... Like what the hell. Loved your video keep up the good work 😊
“I envy you Americans” did you even pay attention It’s impossible to get and any listings for it are horrendously overpriced Stop whining we’re in the same boat
@@theshadowking3198 well yeah you are right about the 9800x3d. Wasn't talking about that though maybe i wasn't explicit enough. I mean in general the Shop for pc parts IS better and IS cheaper for you guys
The 9800x3d is 700$ where I live, thankfully I bought a 7800x3d for 400$ (after taxes) a couple months back so I'm safe for a generation or two. Definitely lucked out with the 7800x3d pricing.
The entire PC industry is itself a game. If you play it, you lose. They make the games to drive demand for more expensive hardware. It doesn’t make the games better.
In Germany, the 9800X3D is sold for 550 euros. You can buy 9700X, RAM 6400MHz and a motherboard for exactly 550 euros. The 9700X is the Value King if you're aiming for 1440p 120 - 165 FPS.
I really like your focus on price per performance. It's something I, as someone looking to build my first gaming PC, really appreciate because I'm really trying to avoid breaking bank while still getting great performance. I was looking at the 7800X3D and your commentary on sales, where it becomes competitive on that metric with the 9800X3D around certain price benchmarks, was extremely helpful. From what I've seen so far, a lot of videos and articles don't consider that angle as much and it's been tough to find more recent info on comparisons between the two from a price per performance standpoint.
Bought a 5900X during Prime Day in October for under $300, as I'm still using my workhorse TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WIFI) motherboard. Its been great upgrade from the R7 3700x that I have been using for the past 4yrs. I was hoping it would be on sale for more AM4 users.
I'm looking at building my first pc vs. getting an x box series x. Moving away from a ps4. I currently only play call of duty but want to play halo as well as some others and to have the versatility of a computer for other tasks. Where I am stuck is on what cpu/ gpu combo to get. I see that cod in particular is demanding on a cpu. However I can't tell whether to go with a 7600x or a 7800x3d if one comes on sale, or a 9800x3d if there isn't much sale on the 7800x3d. For gpu I would go with a 7900xtx or 7900xt. I just can't tell how much difference I will notice with the upgrade to a 7800x3d or even a 9800x3d vs a 7600x. Budget isn't a big concern and I would rather build this once. Will a 7600x be much difference in performance if the gpu is the same? I only have starlink internet available currently.
Hey I came from a PS4 and picked up a 7900XT and Ryzen 7600 and have zero complaints! 120-200 FPS across a lot of games(including black ops 6) at ultra 1440 settings. I’m sure if you have the money to get the 9800x3d it will easily perform with the next gen top of the line GPU’s. If you’re going that crazy buy a 1000w psu to start even with the 7900xt. Make sure to pick up atleast 32gb CL30 6000mhz ddr5 RAM, if you need faster or more go for it. Its a different world of performance if you’ve got the money to go for it, don’t forget a nice monitor.
I just got my 9800x3D 3 days ago, but my motherboard is taking longer to arrive. It is back ordered on Amazon and Newegg. It is slated to arrive between Nov 22-Dec 3. We will see.
Jason do you think the core ultra platform is going to get on sale this black friday? (I mean cpu and motherboards) What about the 4070 super? Should I buy now or wait till the actual 29th?
Great video as always Jason and they help to get a handle on a confusing cpu market. Not sure why one would buy a 78x3d when a 98x3d is $3 more but that's what makes a horse race I guess i am looking at 98x3d tho
Wondering where the 12900k/ks parts are on your chart Jason! Looking into them for a new build if I see good Black Friday deals Also, does the 14600k have issues like the i9/i7? Safe to buy you think or is it a gamble?
Hi Jason! I am planning to get the 8800xt when it comes out, should i get a 7700x (microcenter combo) or 9800x3d (available in stock too) to pair with it? My current build is from 2014😂 goal is to have it last another ten years.
The 13600kf for under $200 is very good value. I've put several in customer builds with zero issues and currently have one in my main pushing a 7900xtx. It beats the 12900k in gaming and with a little tuning competes with the 13900k.
Everything I'm hearing is that Zen 6 will be on AM5. Not sure why AMD hasn't confirmed this and I hate even a little uncertainty. I think there would be quite the uproar if it isn't. B650 might not be prioritize for bios updates, but they should get them for the Zen 6 X3D.
It’s almost but confirm that Zen 6 will be on AM5, otherwise they would have a lackluster platform with just one upgrade from the bare minimum on AM5. What would really seal the deal to match AM4 is Zen 7 support.
Followed your advice for a budget build upgrade in the spring with a 5500, a B550 motherboard, and got a super deal on an RX 580, thinking I would upgrade with a new GPU in a year or so. Getting 54 fps on Jedi Survivor and am happy with the performance, but I'm wishing now that I had bought a 5600X instead because I didn't appreciate the significance of PCI 3 vs PCI 4. I'm wondering what the most logical upgrade path for me will be in the future. Thanks for all the videos, I enjoy them and they're very informative.
Imo your next upgrade should be GPU. There's other cheap second hand GPUs that will outperform a rx580. Like a Rx 5700xt for example. You could also get the Rx 6600 or 6600xt/6650xt GPUs if you want something newer. CPU wise you could save up for a 5700x3d which would upgrade you to pcie4.0. I feel like upgrading from the 5500 to a 5600x wouldn't be worth it.
AM5 i think. looking for the older Zen 4 parts. AM4 wouldnt be worth it by that time. Or if you super low on budget, trying to find a Ryzen 7 5700x3d at most to get more out of that platform you are using now.
The other thing with the 5090 is that by the time the scalpers get done, the US price is likely to include a substantial trade tariff. (say April 2025)
You got any videos that talks about the BEST AI workstation setup? I'm trying to build my own multi-PC workstation from scratch, and I would LOVE any pointers or video suggestions I could use to build up my own multi-nodal AI system
Ya know you was talking about the Ryzen 5500 not being gen 4 for video and you are right. I build a PC last year for my granddaughter and I sent one back due to I used an Arc A580 video ard. I replaced it with a Rayzen 5600 for a little more that is gen 4.That was one of the best looking PC I have built with that green DIY fishtank Mini ATX case. She loves it.
Gosh wish we could! I just don't have the access and knowledge of all those markets to give you the best advice in terms of exact sales. But I do hope the spreadsheets here and knowledge of performance will help folks outside the US make the best choices for their prices
Thanks again for your production content. Question? Would the single core score be value added - an additional column? I understand single core is the key metric for performance running many apps - or am I both crazy AND stupid, wasting my time looking up these numbers?
Production tasks are so varied it is impossible to come up with a single metric. If there were a bigger audience for production content we'd probably do a couple different categories. That being said, I think cinebench is still the best - if imperfect - single metric for production heavy tasks. Some workloads like Photoshop can be done by virtually any modern CPU. In practice despite a chart from an automated benchmark (pugetbench) that shows a big difference, the user is the bottleneck, not the system.
Not a CPU completely. But yestereday I got a asus x-870 plus, corsair 6400 ram, and ryzen 7700x for 490. MOBO was 70 off and had a free ram deal. One of the best deals I have seen for someone looking to build. MOBO might be overkill for me and alot of others. But was a solid deal with the bundle.
Maybe I missed it but I watched both your 9800X3D build and your Ram buyers guide, but I still didn’t see any recommendation for high end 64GB DDR 5 6000 kits. I’ve found some CL30 kits like G Skill Ripjaws but wasn’t sure if some were better than others or would any CL 30 kit work?
I'm not sure there are significant differences on 64GB kits of DDR5 6000 CL30 kits. I'm sure the ripjaws will work fine, here is a $159 RGB kit from Silicon power as well howl.link/b7w7lppncycrx (affiliate).
I'll do my Part 😮 and get a Ultra 285 when available at MSRP. Ideally do not want Intel going out. Back in 05 (Pre Intel Conroe) It was very common for AMD to have $1000 Flagship gaming CPUs.
Check the seller, I just had a look and sure enough the scam sellers are at it with the 7800X3D too. Always check the seller and make sure it's actually the retailer
i got super lucky, i found a 7800X3D on facebook marketplace for £300, i finally have got my pc upgraded like a week ago and i am super lucky that it wasnt a scam bacause when i did buy it, it was funny that suddenly i was alerted to the fact that there are alot of fakes going around! luckily the one i purchased was still sealed. always if you do purchase of a 3rd party seller make sure you can verify the holograms are genuine on the box with the AMD website...you can scan the QR code to check also. wish you luck!
I just bought a rx 6800 for a new build for my son. Off another channel's recommendation. Trying to decide between AM4/AM5. Have been considering 7500f which you don't talk about. As a cheaper($139 ali express) entry-level to AM5. But the 7600x + 1TB SSD is close ish. Can you give me your recommendation for CPU and MOBO based on the 6800 GPU. Targeting 1440p gaming and some high school computer science web and game design functionality Thanks
The 13700K with microcode fix and carefully controlled power delivery could be a good choice right now -- as long as you do full-platform upgrades. That's what I do -- build a whole new system and relegate the old one to another function.
One good thing about intel's reputation crashing down is that they will be forced to lower the prices for all their products, including the actual good intel CPUs like the 12700k or the 12600k
I'm running a B550-F motherboard, 5600X cpu, 6750XT and 32GB DD4-3200 and wondering if its worth it for an upgrade since some of the deals seem decent, i just game CP2077, black desert online or Anno1800 or stream shows like netflix, disney, etc, might not be worth it, what are your thoughts?
Generally best deals are now until the day after Black Friday, anywhere in that period. Figure out which GPU you want (7700 XT, 4070 Super, etc) and just pull the trigger when you get the deal you're looking for.
Yah scalpers don't do Black Friday deals lol. It's a shame that we're even here with this though. And honestly all the companies are complicit in this by not having an absolute ton of stock ready at launch and just after. If you look at what's going on with the PS5 Pro, scalpers are being made to eat it because Sony is just pumping these things into the market. A week and a bit from launch, readily available everywhere. With AMD, Nvidia, etc keeping supplies lower they're just encouraging this behavior and we as consumers are paying the price, because hey, they got their $479. Just sad. Great video as always!!!
The rumor is that Intel hasn't made many Arrowlake CPUs thus far, so I would say that the main reason Intel released these is because all the issues with the ringbus issues on the last couple of Gens to upgrade exchanges on 13th and 14th Gen parts; however, considering how bad these actually perform similar to 12th Gen, no one is going to want these over a 13th or 14th Gen replacement. There is absolutely no way that Intel will make up the gap with microcode updates and Windows updates! Frankly, I can't believe they aren't lowering prices at this point, although they might not have any margin left to make a profit...
Hi Jason , I got a question , I got the msi pro b-650-s wifi , currently running a 7600x on it from ryzen 5 , I wanted to ask you if it s good enough for 7800x3d from ryzen 7 or should I change it . I saw it even got an bios update for 9800x3d optimizer. I m not sure if it s strong enough for 7800x3d as a future upgrade. Also if i got a gigabyte psu 650W 80+ gold , is it strong enough for 7900 gre? Thank you in advance!
The board is fine for that CPU. The VRM is weak, but should be fine for an 8 core CPU (I wouldn't put a 9950X3D on it for instance). 9800X3D should be fine. For the PSU, follow our method in our Best PSU 2024 video and put all the components into PC Part Picker, then multiply the max rated draw by 1.5. That needs to be somewhat close to 650W and I suspect your PSU is a bit small but do the math and see.
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you , so I can go up to ryzen 7 on this , I d only like to go for 7800x3d the furthest thank you again , i asked cuz i wanted to know it will work perfectly fine with 7800x3d .
@PCBuilderChannel: Is it worth to upgrade a Ryzen 7 5700x to a Ryzen 7 5700x3d? (its for an SFF PC) Iam using the pc as a Internet / gaming pc (not triple aaa titles). Have a Nvidia RTX 3070 8GB in it and 32GB DDR4 3600 CL36 from G.skill. Playing on 1080P I know that for average use the Ryzen 7 5700x would be good enough.. But i think i can win more performance with the 5700x3d? But should it worth it? Its another 170 euros to spend.
The idea that a 9800x3d "Isn't worth it at $700" depending on the CPU you have, it absolutely could be worth it. If you're running a CPU that's 6+ years old I'd say it would be a big enough performance increase to justify the extra $200-300.
If you have unlimited budget and already have a 4090 then yes it doesn't matter what the 9800X3D is priced at. But for those with a budget remember your GPU pair is even more important than your CPU choice for performance. See our "Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024" to learn more about bottlenecking
Right now I’m thinking of doing the 7600x with a 4070ti super on a B650 Auros elite Ax which is $189 rn. Should I try to get a cheaper board? I like that it’s in white for my build and also has the upgraded audio, so I don’t know if it’s really worth saving $20-30 for aesthetics imo. I would compromise on the gpu cause amd has some really good deals but I do play a lot of ray traced compatible titles so I would like to keep it for that. Build is for 1440p as well. What do you think?
I would go with that Motherboard because it's the cheapest White one I see. I don't love that GPU because of it's price, AMD has a White ASRock 7900XT for $650 and a White ASRock 7900XTX for $910, but if Ray Tracing is that important to you it's a good pair with that CPU.
Also I’m definitely gonna pick up this cpu deal from new egg, originally was gonna do $202 7600x on amazon with a $97 2tb ssd. So now I’m getting both for $160 vs $310. Very good savings and I can always expand later
@@syrenityx yea unfortunately I don't see a White 4070 Ti Super getting that low but if you're willing to bite the bullet for the Ray Tracing then okay.
Its such a packed month I don't know that we will get to another boost video sorry. We will again in December. Wish we could cover everyones builds but with hundreds of submissions thats just not possible. But I try to make sure that there are build guides for every budget level up to date on the channel so hopefully that helps! And you can always ask questions if you still have a specific concern. Best way to reach me is a fresh comment though, youtube doesn't show me replies so I don't usually see them
If someone could give some info i would apreciate it, I'm not an expert in this pc bulding stuff so i have question do you think this main parts: -Ryzen 9 9900X or RYZEN 7 9800X3D (CPU) -MAG X870 Tomahawk (motherboard) -Rx7900XTX (GPU) Are ok for editting and gaming also what kind of power supply would you recommend?
So difficult right now. I understand Intel's new process with their core ultra and am sad they not seeing the performance they were expecting. Hopefully there's a software fix or something for it soon. As for AMD, I can't buy or suggest their products sadly. Every single AMD GPU I've had has had a BSOD at least once per day every day. Suggested one to my partner once and he had the same exact problem. Given their terrible GPUs, I am hesitant to ever try their CPUs.
hey seeing these videos videos and wanting to upgrade my cpu and looking at my budget of 500-600 and i do have a 3500x with a B450M PRO-M2 MAX but I can't use the US market since i live in europe and i dunno what to do
Would you recommend a 7950x3d now that the parking issuse is fixed ? I dont think I will be able to get a 9800x3d before Feb and my current pc i7 2600k is dying
Jason i would really appreciate if you give me your opinion on a build i found, see here in sweden pc prices are more expensive than usa but i found deal with, 32gb ddr5 ram, r7 7700x, rtx 4070 super, 2tb storage for around 16000 SEK or i thinl 1550 USD, should i buy or find better?
I can't speak to the quality or service level of the System integrator, but on paper that's actually a pretty good deal for a prebuilt, especially if tax is included.
I want to mention that it's a "build your computer deal" so o get these parts together and build it myself. Power supply is 750 watt, motherboard is a B650-E wifi case is Corsair 3500x
Do you recommend the Ryzen 8600g for an office PC? I would like to know if it is worth taking the leap to new technologies; then I will put a GPU but it will take a while to do it PS: sorry for my poor English, I am a Spanish speaker
Yes if you already have that CPU that's a good combo! If you are buying new I wouldn't get that now, it will bottleneck at the same level as a 5600. See our "Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024" video for more
@PCBuilderChannel I already got the 5900x on Prime Day, and I'm just looking for a good GPU. I saw that it was only 370 on Amazon, so I'm going to try and get it for black Friday.
Which would be a better value CPU for an all-purpose build, the 7700/9700X or 7900/9900X? Not necessarily the best at gaming or the best at production, but relatively good at doing both on the same machine?
I'm still using an Intel Core i5 12th generation in my gaming rig. I've been thinking about upgrading to the latest generation AMD processor. Is it worth the upgrade? I have it paired with a RTX 7600 XT.
You can go 7600X or 7600 with that GPU. Then I'd work on a GPU upgrade in the future. See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024. Then you'll be on a platform with a great upgrade path but the performance will be very similar to where you are now so up to you if that's worth it for now
I come from an i7 4790k, now that i will upgrade to a 4K gaming set up, should I go for the 9800x3d or the 7800x3d? Does it matter in 4K either of them?
I had the 4790K asswell, upgraded to an 12600k with only a rtx2060. I play older games like ut99 and counterstrike in 4k. Older games runs on less cores but likes a high Single Thread Rating. A big difference on min fps, no fps under the 165 fps anymore in heavy fights, im so happy with it.
Intel assumed that they might do better launching before AMD. The problem is that they further damage their reputation and market share by launching an unfinished product.
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Cant find the 9800x3d in europe...
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Noctua 15g2 and 7900xtx have 9800x3d coming Jan 11th to 14th thanks to u and 6000mhz 64gb high end ram but I have 32gb 6400 i got free with x870 mobo sale for $303 have every thing else
Just finish my 9800x3D install. Combined with the 4070TI Super, I can't be happier.
Congrats!! Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason
Similar build but I went with AMD. 9800X3D and a 7900 XTX with 64GB Ram.
that is interesting build, I have the 7800x3d and 4080, I wonder which would have more fps? I know the 9800x3d can push more fps, but i dont know how much the gpus would limit the fps, being close in the same gen. You probably would get more at 1080p , and i would get more at 4k, i guess. Its kinda hard to say.
I also have that GPU. I just put it in my existing PC which has a Ryzen 9 5900x. I have 128GB of RAM. I do a bit more than gaming and the extra RAM is great for what I do.
My TI Super is paired with a 5800x3d and this is the uplift needed for me to buy into a new platform.
I'm in hope of AMD releasing a GPU that is an upgrade to this 4070 otherwise I'm stuck with Nvidia.
Honestly with the Ryzen 7800x3d being only $20 cheaper right now (and maybe into Black Friday?) you might as well shoot for a 9800x3d. Especially given that the 9800x3d keeps being put back up for listing and saying it’s in stock.
Vary Happy with may 7600 ($200) and 7900xtx ($900) I got last black Friday for my ITX Build, Thank you for all the help!😁
Awesome! Congrats on your build and so glad we could help!
The 5700x3D on Newegg is priced at $229 but also comes with a $100 32GB DDR4 3200 kit thrown in.
Oh thank you! I'm checking it out now
@@PCBuilderChannel No problem just a few weeks ago I grabbed a 7900GRE and actually you suggested I upgrade to a 5700x or better from my current 5600x.. So I'll be grabbing this by Friday, and if its a black friday sale item newegg refunds the difference.
That RAM kit is worth about $60 max. Can find different brand with same specs for like $48
Yea, that ram is like $55. Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad deal, just not amazing.
@Thanoric That is true as it's constantly on sale, but if you're still running AM4 and getting a 5700x3d, it's strictly for gaming, and you really don't need a higher performing kit than that.
I was able to find a 7800x3d on a walmart shelf of all places for $399 right now. I still feel like thats a bit high,especially compared to just a few months ago, but compared to everywhere else its much lower. I'm hoping that somewhere has it for $350 or less in the next few weeks so i can price match it.
Brother buy that immediately
They were on amazon earlier today for 350
@s13rras fr due it price change every day lol idk if the Micro center have the 9800x3d for msrp or cheaper during BF or CyberMonday
@ yea It rlly is a game on when u think the price will be the lowest
I got that 7600X and SSD the other day which was great. But I was doing a Steel Legend build and the B650 mobo went bye bye on Amazon before I could click buy and hasn't been back since anywhere, which sucks. Switched it out for a Project Zero build.
Greetings from Germany, over here i can't find a 9800x3d under 700$ its crazy everything sold out and everything completely overpriced.... I envy you Americans when it comes to all the pc components, i have checked prices on GPU's aswell everything is cheaper and more accessible over there.... Like what the hell.
Loved your video keep up the good work 😊
“I envy you Americans” did you even pay attention
It’s impossible to get and any listings for it are horrendously overpriced
Stop whining we’re in the same boat
Closest microcenter (that has 9800x3ds in stock) is 1100km away from me ..
That's like driving from London to Rome .
@@theshadowking3198 well yeah you are right about the 9800x3d. Wasn't talking about that though maybe i wasn't explicit enough. I mean in general the Shop for pc parts IS better and IS cheaper for you guys
Wait, it was 460eur on day of release. My friend was able to order (still on hold)
@@unotoli yea it "was" now bc everything is sold out people/websites are selling them for astronomical prices.
Should I get the 7600x3d @$300 or just save the $100 and get the 7600. Playing at 1440 wouldn’t make a big difference ?
I'm wondering the same thing for a build for my son.
I would buy the 7600 now and get at least an 8 core later on. 7600x3d doesnt make sense for that price point.
The 9800x3d is 700$ where I live, thankfully I bought a 7800x3d for 400$ (after taxes) a couple months back so I'm safe for a generation or two. Definitely lucked out with the 7800x3d pricing.
Nice grab!! What GPU did you pair it with?
The 4070 Ti Super.
The entire PC industry is itself a game. If you play it, you lose. They make the games to drive demand for more expensive hardware. It doesn’t make the games better.
insane video/sponsor combo, just had my best buy store meeting about the holidays and our door buster sales end when this dropped
In Germany, the 9800X3D is sold for 550 euros.
You can buy 9700X, RAM 6400MHz and a motherboard for exactly 550 euros.
The 9700X is the Value King if you're aiming for 1440p 120 - 165 FPS.
9700x is indeed good enough, 9800x3d is only for people that want to spend more to get it all. But it is actually not worth it.
I really like your focus on price per performance. It's something I, as someone looking to build my first gaming PC, really appreciate because I'm really trying to avoid breaking bank while still getting great performance. I was looking at the 7800X3D and your commentary on sales, where it becomes competitive on that metric with the 9800X3D around certain price benchmarks, was extremely helpful. From what I've seen so far, a lot of videos and articles don't consider that angle as much and it's been tough to find more recent info on comparisons between the two from a price per performance standpoint.
Bought a 5900X during Prime Day in October for under $300, as I'm still using my workhorse TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WIFI) motherboard.
Its been great upgrade from the R7 3700x that I have been using for the past 4yrs.
I was hoping it would be on sale for more AM4 users.
Thanks for this, going to probably get a 9800x3d for my 4080 super, just waiting for stock
That will be a great combo! Its available right now on Amazon you can click the link in the description
This is what I ultimately ended up choosing for my build. Might as well go for the 9800X3D for $30-$50 more if you can find it
14:36 is that your cat, that is a funny face she is pulling. lol after some treats or something.plus the other cats
I'm looking at building my first pc vs. getting an x box series x. Moving away from a ps4. I currently only play call of duty but want to play halo as well as some others and to have the versatility of a computer for other tasks.
Where I am stuck is on what cpu/ gpu combo to get. I see that cod in particular is demanding on a cpu. However I can't tell whether to go with a 7600x or a 7800x3d if one comes on sale, or a 9800x3d if there isn't much sale on the 7800x3d. For gpu I would go with a 7900xtx or 7900xt. I just can't tell how much difference I will notice with the upgrade to a 7800x3d or even a 9800x3d vs a 7600x. Budget isn't a big concern and I would rather build this once.
Will a 7600x be much difference in performance if the gpu is the same? I only have starlink internet available currently.
Hey I came from a PS4 and picked up a 7900XT and Ryzen 7600 and have zero complaints! 120-200 FPS across a lot of games(including black ops 6) at ultra 1440 settings. I’m sure if you have the money to get the 9800x3d it will easily perform with the next gen top of the line GPU’s. If you’re going that crazy buy a 1000w psu to start even with the 7900xt. Make sure to pick up atleast 32gb CL30 6000mhz ddr5 RAM, if you need faster or more go for it. Its a different world of performance if you’ve got the money to go for it, don’t forget a nice monitor.
I just got my 9800x3D 3 days ago, but my motherboard is taking longer to arrive. It is back ordered on Amazon and Newegg. It is slated to arrive between Nov 22-Dec 3. We will see.
Frustrating! But have an awesome build when it arrives!
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks Jason
Jason do you think the core ultra platform is going to get on sale this black friday? (I mean cpu and motherboards) What about the 4070 super? Should I buy now or wait till the actual 29th?
no i dont think it will because of NEW product on the market. They will only lower when this series is almost end of life and need to get rid off.
Great video as always Jason and they help to get a handle on a confusing cpu market. Not sure why one would buy a 78x3d when a 98x3d is $3 more but that's what makes a horse race I guess i am looking at 98x3d tho
Wondering where the 12900k/ks parts are on your chart Jason! Looking into them for a new build if I see good Black Friday deals
Also, does the 14600k have issues like the i9/i7? Safe to buy you think or is it a gamble?
Does anyone else say along with him "Welcome to PC builder! *I'M* Jason"
Picked up a marketplace deal for a 7600x + 32gb teamgroup ddr5 kit for $200. Gonna build a pc flip with it.
Nice! Happy building!
Is the listing still up? Or was it a want time deal
I want the link
Hi Jason! I am planning to get the 8800xt when it comes out, should i get a 7700x (microcenter combo) or 9800x3d (available in stock too) to pair with it? My current build is from 2014😂 goal is to have it last another ten years.
Hi Jason! Thanks for the kick ass video. What do you feel about 7600x3d and 4070 ti super for 4K/1440p gaming ?
The 13600kf for under $200 is very good value. I've put several in customer builds with zero issues and currently have one in my main pushing a 7900xtx. It beats the 12900k in gaming and with a little tuning competes with the 13900k.
The 9950x is over $700 but the 9900x is under $400 for essentially the same performance.
You think the 11800x3d (whatever they call it) will be compatible with b650 or x870 motherboards?
Everything I'm hearing is that Zen 6 will be on AM5. Not sure why AMD hasn't confirmed this and I hate even a little uncertainty. I think there would be quite the uproar if it isn't. B650 might not be prioritize for bios updates, but they should get them for the Zen 6 X3D.
It’s almost but confirm that Zen 6 will be on AM5, otherwise they would have a lackluster platform with just one upgrade from the bare minimum on AM5.
What would really seal the deal to match AM4 is Zen 7 support.
I think not because we got ryzen 7000, 8000 and now we get 9000. So it is gonna be new socket
@@hellspawnx3526wouldn’t be normal for amd
@PCBuilderChannel jason can you do 1440p monitor sales for black Friday. I'm looking to buy asap
Followed your advice for a budget build upgrade in the spring with a 5500, a B550 motherboard, and got a super deal on an RX 580, thinking I would upgrade with a new GPU in a year or so. Getting 54 fps on Jedi Survivor and am happy with the performance, but I'm wishing now that I had bought a 5600X instead because I didn't appreciate the significance of PCI 3 vs PCI 4. I'm wondering what the most logical upgrade path for me will be in the future. Thanks for all the videos, I enjoy them and they're very informative.
Imo your next upgrade should be GPU. There's other cheap second hand GPUs that will outperform a rx580. Like a Rx 5700xt for example. You could also get the Rx 6600 or 6600xt/6650xt GPUs if you want something newer. CPU wise you could save up for a 5700x3d which would upgrade you to pcie4.0. I feel like upgrading from the 5500 to a 5600x wouldn't be worth it.
AM5 i think. looking for the older Zen 4 parts. AM4 wouldnt be worth it by that time.
Or if you super low on budget, trying to find a Ryzen 7 5700x3d at most to get more out of that platform you are using now.
The other thing with the 5090 is that by the time the scalpers get done, the US price is likely to include a substantial trade tariff. (say April 2025)
That could be too!
You got any videos that talks about the BEST AI workstation setup? I'm trying to build my own multi-PC workstation from scratch, and I would LOVE any pointers or video suggestions I could use to build up my own multi-nodal AI system
I know it's hard to get but I am really eyeing the 7600x3d at my closest microcenter for 300 USD. Biggest bang for my buck I can find
Such and excellent and to a point overview. Great job!
In my opinion, the 9600X/7700(X) and the RX 7900 XT is the best bang-for-buck/futureproof combo right now. Currently working on a sub-$1400 build.
Do you know any good coolers for the amd 9800x3d?
Ya know you was talking about the Ryzen 5500 not being gen 4 for video and you are right. I build a PC last year for my granddaughter and I sent one back due to I used an Arc A580 video ard. I replaced it with a Rayzen 5600 for a little more that is gen 4.That was one of the best looking PC I have built with that green DIY fishtank Mini ATX case. She loves it.
Sounds like a very cool build!!
Would be great if u did a UK /euro black Friday deals as some items a wildly different, but love your vids as always!
Gosh wish we could! I just don't have the access and knowledge of all those markets to give you the best advice in terms of exact sales. But I do hope the spreadsheets here and knowledge of performance will help folks outside the US make the best choices for their prices
Thanks again for your production content. Question? Would the single core score be value added - an additional column? I understand single core is the key metric for performance running many apps - or am I both crazy AND stupid, wasting my time looking up these numbers?
Production tasks are so varied it is impossible to come up with a single metric. If there were a bigger audience for production content we'd probably do a couple different categories. That being said, I think cinebench is still the best - if imperfect - single metric for production heavy tasks. Some workloads like Photoshop can be done by virtually any modern CPU. In practice despite a chart from an automated benchmark (pugetbench) that shows a big difference, the user is the bottleneck, not the system.
New build! 9800x3d, 64g, 4090. All components due in the next couple of days except…….. the CPU. Amazon estimated date Jan. 14😢
Why did you not include the 7600X3D?
Third best gaming cpu at the moment!!
Best price/performance ratio!!
Most people don't live near micro center😢
Not a CPU completely. But yestereday I got a asus x-870 plus, corsair 6400 ram, and ryzen 7700x for 490. MOBO was 70 off and had a free ram deal. One of the best deals I have seen for someone looking to build. MOBO might be overkill for me and alot of others. But was a solid deal with the bundle.
Maybe I missed it but I watched both your 9800X3D build and your Ram buyers guide, but I still didn’t see any recommendation for high end 64GB DDR 5 6000 kits. I’ve found some CL30 kits like G Skill Ripjaws but wasn’t sure if some were better than others or would any CL 30 kit work?
I'm not sure there are significant differences on 64GB kits of DDR5 6000 CL30 kits. I'm sure the ripjaws will work fine, here is a $159 RGB kit from Silicon power as well howl.link/b7w7lppncycrx (affiliate).
I'll do my Part 😮 and get a Ultra 285 when available at MSRP. Ideally do not want Intel going out. Back in 05 (Pre Intel Conroe) It was very common for AMD to have $1000 Flagship gaming CPUs.
I keep seeing the 7800x3d going for like $350 on Amazon and then it immediately jumps back to $450. Hoping that comes down black Friday
Check the seller, I just had a look and sure enough the scam sellers are at it with the 7800X3D too. Always check the seller and make sure it's actually the retailer
wouldn't count on that
@@PCBuilderChannel good call!
nah bro on amazon italia its 489 euro 💀 i hope that it will go back to 350-370 ish soontm but i doubt it will like ever
i got super lucky, i found a 7800X3D on facebook marketplace for £300, i finally have got my pc upgraded like a week ago and i am super lucky that it wasnt a scam bacause when i did buy it, it was funny that suddenly i was alerted to the fact that there are alot of fakes going around! luckily the one i purchased was still sealed. always if you do purchase of a 3rd party seller make sure you can verify the holograms are genuine on the box with the AMD website...you can scan the QR code to check also. wish you luck!
I just bought a rx 6800 for a new build for my son. Off another channel's recommendation. Trying to decide between AM4/AM5. Have been considering 7500f which you don't talk about. As a cheaper($139 ali express) entry-level to AM5. But the 7600x + 1TB SSD is close ish.
Can you give me your recommendation for CPU and MOBO based on the 6800 GPU. Targeting 1440p gaming and some high school computer science web and game design functionality
Thanks
The 13700K with microcode fix and carefully controlled power delivery could be a good choice right now -- as long as you do full-platform upgrades. That's what I do -- build a whole new system and relegate the old one to another function.
Yep, as long as folks are aware of the issues and go in with their eyes open, it could be a great deal!
One good thing about intel's reputation crashing down is that they will be forced to lower the prices for all their products, including the actual good intel CPUs like the 12700k or the 12600k
Truth!
I'm running a B550-F motherboard, 5600X cpu, 6750XT and 32GB DD4-3200 and wondering if its worth it for an upgrade since some of the deals seem decent, i just game CP2077, black desert online or Anno1800 or stream shows like netflix, disney, etc, might not be worth it, what are your thoughts?
the format of your videos are very good
Your thumbnail makes you look like Chris Boden (Physicsduck) and I think that's pretty cool
LOL on that ad what's the DPI on that mouse 10?
So the prices aren’t going down any further even though Black Friday weekend is a week away?
I want to buy a GPU. Black Friday or Cyber Monday? or both sell at same price?
Generally best deals are now until the day after Black Friday, anywhere in that period. Figure out which GPU you want (7700 XT, 4070 Super, etc) and just pull the trigger when you get the deal you're looking for.
@@PCBuilderChannel Alright! thanks
Yah scalpers don't do Black Friday deals lol. It's a shame that we're even here with this though. And honestly all the companies are complicit in this by not having an absolute ton of stock ready at launch and just after. If you look at what's going on with the PS5 Pro, scalpers are being made to eat it because Sony is just pumping these things into the market. A week and a bit from launch, readily available everywhere. With AMD, Nvidia, etc keeping supplies lower they're just encouraging this behavior and we as consumers are paying the price, because hey, they got their $479. Just sad.
Great video as always!!!
Scalpers are the worst and it is frustrating the companies don't do anything to curb it!
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
Love these videos, finally ordered all my pc parts and will be building it on yuesday
Exciting! Best wishes on your build! What did you choose?
@ Zotac 4070 super
ryzen 7800X3D
CoolerMaster 360L Core 360MM
Corsair Vengeance 32 Ggbs DDR5
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite motherboardd
Corsair 750w power supply gold rated
Western Digital 2Tb ssd
Microcenter has the 9800 in a bundle they drop the price to just over $400 with their board and ram pick. bundle is like $700.
9800x3D going for 650-685 euro at official retailers if available at all here, so everyone is asking scalper prices it seems 🤨
The rumor is that Intel hasn't made many Arrowlake CPUs thus far, so I would say that the main reason Intel released these is because all the issues with the ringbus issues on the last couple of Gens to upgrade exchanges on 13th and 14th Gen parts; however, considering how bad these actually perform similar to 12th Gen, no one is going to want these over a 13th or 14th Gen replacement. There is absolutely no way that Intel will make up the gap with microcode updates and Windows updates! Frankly, I can't believe they aren't lowering prices at this point, although they might not have any margin left to make a profit...
Hi Jason , I got a question , I got the msi pro b-650-s wifi , currently running a 7600x on it from ryzen 5 , I wanted to ask you if it s good enough for 7800x3d from ryzen 7 or should I change it . I saw it even got an bios update for 9800x3d optimizer. I m not sure if it s strong enough for 7800x3d as a future upgrade. Also if i got a gigabyte psu 650W 80+ gold , is it strong enough for 7900 gre? Thank you in advance!
The board is fine for that CPU. The VRM is weak, but should be fine for an 8 core CPU (I wouldn't put a 9950X3D on it for instance). 9800X3D should be fine. For the PSU, follow our method in our Best PSU 2024 video and put all the components into PC Part Picker, then multiply the max rated draw by 1.5. That needs to be somewhat close to 650W and I suspect your PSU is a bit small but do the math and see.
@@PCBuilderChannel thank you , so I can go up to ryzen 7 on this , I d only like to go for 7800x3d the furthest thank you again , i asked cuz i wanted to know it will work perfectly fine with 7800x3d .
@@baldur_editsyes that CPU should be fine with that Motherboard
@@kelley09162 thank you
What’s a good motherboard for ddr5 ? Got an i5 13400f and 6750xt
@PCBuilderChannel:
Is it worth to upgrade a Ryzen 7 5700x to a Ryzen 7 5700x3d? (its for an SFF PC)
Iam using the pc as a Internet / gaming pc (not triple aaa titles). Have a Nvidia RTX 3070 8GB in it and 32GB DDR4 3600 CL36 from G.skill. Playing on 1080P
I know that for average use the Ryzen 7 5700x would be good enough.. But i think i can win more performance with the 5700x3d? But should it worth it? Its another 170 euros to spend.
The idea that a 9800x3d "Isn't worth it at $700" depending on the CPU you have, it absolutely could be worth it. If you're running a CPU that's 6+ years old I'd say it would be a big enough performance increase to justify the extra $200-300.
If you have unlimited budget and already have a 4090 then yes it doesn't matter what the 9800X3D is priced at. But for those with a budget remember your GPU pair is even more important than your CPU choice for performance. See our "Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024" to learn more about bottlenecking
i bought my 9800X3D for almost $700 yes i know im cooked but im excited to get it in this week for my rx 7900XTX
Its your money, you spend it how you like! Hope you enjoy your build! (:
Hello, could you help me with some advice?
I currently have a i7 11700k with a 4070 ti super, does my cpu bottleneck my gpu?
What are your thoughts on the 7600x3d? I didnt see it in this video
I love this channel. this gentleman has helped me soon muh wit my first entry into pc gaming
Glad I could help!!! :)
An updated 5700x3d build list video would be easy money right now.
Right now I’m thinking of doing the 7600x with a 4070ti super on a B650 Auros elite Ax which is $189 rn. Should I try to get a cheaper board? I like that it’s in white for my build and also has the upgraded audio, so I don’t know if it’s really worth saving $20-30 for aesthetics imo. I would compromise on the gpu cause amd has some really good deals but I do play a lot of ray traced compatible titles so I would like to keep it for that. Build is for 1440p as well. What do you think?
I would go with that Motherboard because it's the cheapest White one I see.
I don't love that GPU because of it's price, AMD has a White ASRock 7900XT for $650 and a White ASRock 7900XTX for $910, but if Ray Tracing is that important to you it's a good pair with that CPU.
@@kelley09162yeah I’m hoping it’ll at least go to $750 but it’s just something I’m willing to bite the bullet on
Also I’m definitely gonna pick up this cpu deal from new egg, originally was gonna do $202 7600x on amazon with a $97 2tb ssd. So now I’m getting both for $160 vs $310. Very good savings and I can always expand later
@@syrenityx yea unfortunately I don't see a White 4070 Ti Super getting that low but if you're willing to bite the bullet for the Ray Tracing then okay.
Is there going to be a November choose my build? I submitted my build for October. Does it roll over? :(
Its such a packed month I don't know that we will get to another boost video sorry. We will again in December. Wish we could cover everyones builds but with hundreds of submissions thats just not possible. But I try to make sure that there are build guides for every budget level up to date on the channel so hopefully that helps! And you can always ask questions if you still have a specific concern. Best way to reach me is a fresh comment though, youtube doesn't show me replies so I don't usually see them
If someone could give some info i would apreciate it, I'm not an expert in this pc bulding stuff so i have question do you think this main parts:
-Ryzen 9 9900X or RYZEN 7 9800X3D (CPU)
-MAG X870 Tomahawk (motherboard)
-Rx7900XTX (GPU)
Are ok for editting and gaming also what kind of power supply would you recommend?
So difficult right now. I understand Intel's new process with their core ultra and am sad they not seeing the performance they were expecting. Hopefully there's a software fix or something for it soon. As for AMD, I can't buy or suggest their products sadly. Every single AMD GPU I've had has had a BSOD at least once per day every day. Suggested one to my partner once and he had the same exact problem. Given their terrible GPUs, I am hesitant to ever try their CPUs.
Im building new pc for 1600p ultrawide, what cpu would you recomend for gaming on that resolution,allready have 7900xtx .
For battlefield 1440p which one is better ???
7600x 4070 ti super or
7800x3d 4070 super
hey seeing these videos videos and wanting to upgrade my cpu and looking at my budget of 500-600 and i do have a 3500x with a B450M PRO-M2 MAX but I can't use the US market since i live in europe and i dunno what to do
Hop over to our "how to upgrade your pc 2024" video, that might help you think through what's best for your build
do you think according to the rumor intel battlemage will release next month ? looking at a B970
Rumor said it would release this month so honestly no one can say. Really wish they would though!
@@PCBuilderChannel Fingers Crossed if they did it seems would be something awesome for the price at least in the paper
Would you recommend a 7950x3d now that the parking issuse is fixed ? I dont think I will be able to get a 9800x3d before Feb and my current pc i7 2600k is dying
And by dying I mean my case front USB no longer work. 2 case fans died and the PSU went out as well
I currently have the Intel i7-11700kf, was thinking of going for the amd 7600x3d. Thoughts ?
Good CPU and Micro Center generally has it on a good combo deal. Depending on your GPU could be a big upgrade.
which cpu will be great for gaming and streaming together?
I've been looking at cpus for a mod range build and found the 7500f for cheap. It's like the twin to the 7600. It's good.
Yes, its not available in the US market sadly but good option if a good savings from 7600
Yeah I had to order from ali express. It's a good cpu thoe. I'm really liking it. 👍
Jason i would really appreciate if you give me your opinion on a build i found, see here in sweden pc prices are more expensive than usa but i found deal with, 32gb ddr5 ram, r7 7700x, rtx 4070 super, 2tb storage for around 16000 SEK or i thinl 1550 USD, should i buy or find better?
I can't speak to the quality or service level of the System integrator, but on paper that's actually a pretty good deal for a prebuilt, especially if tax is included.
I want to mention that it's a "build your computer deal" so o get these parts together and build it myself. Power supply is 750 watt, motherboard is a B650-E wifi case is Corsair 3500x
@PCBuilderChannel thanks Jason but if you read my other reply it's a "build your own pc type of deal" and yes tax is included
Do you recommend the Ryzen 8600g for an office PC? I would like to know if it is worth taking the leap to new technologies; then I will put a GPU but it will take a while to do it
PS: sorry for my poor English, I am a Spanish speaker
For a office pc yes, if you ever plan to game with a GPU I don't recommend it because it has limited GPU bandwidth
I kind of talked about this in my other comment but do you think the 7800x3D will go on sale for Black Friday?
Do you think that the ryzen 9 5900x is a good with the rx 6800 16gb?
Yes if you already have that CPU that's a good combo! If you are buying new I wouldn't get that now, it will bottleneck at the same level as a 5600. See our "Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024" video for more
@PCBuilderChannel I already got the 5900x on Prime Day, and I'm just looking for a good GPU. I saw that it was only 370 on Amazon, so I'm going to try and get it for black Friday.
Thanks for another great video!
9800X3D and x870 Aorus Elite Wifi7 ICE arrived. Im still hesitant to pull a triger on a GPU. Aiming for a 4070Ti Super. What should I dooo?
Depends on what prices are where you are. Here in the US AMD makes more sense and ASRock has two White options. One 7900XT, and one 7900XTX.
I want to swap onto an am5 platform, I have a ryzen 7 5700g what would be a good cpu that would be an upgrade and also a switch to am5
love your enthusiasm! love the videos
Thank you! Hope you keep enjoying the content!
Would the 9800x3d be worth upgrading from a 7900x with a 4090?
Which would be a better value CPU for an all-purpose build, the 7700/9700X or 7900/9900X? Not necessarily the best at gaming or the best at production, but relatively good at doing both on the same machine?
Depends on the GPU you plan to pair it with and your budget! See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024 video for more I think that will help
Probably 7900X/9900X but both options are good.
3:12 This is almost identical to what I'm going for, is it worth it to get an x870e or a b650
I would say B650 or X870. X870E isn't worth the price in my opinion.
@@kelley09162 alright, does it matter whether the motherboard has pcie 5 lanes? or does it only matter for the m.2 ssd (or does it not matter at all)
B650! Check out our Best Ryzen Motherboard 2024 video for more
Good morning Jason, Crew and Kitties! Great content but, gotta wait 😭 . . . betting on the retirement build!😉
Good morning William! That build is going to be epic
@@PCBuilderChannel 😎
I got a 7800x3d for 325 on ebay...gotta love it
Nice!
just look and the 7800x30 is still $400😭
@@thefan5864 its 350 on amazon rn
I'm still using an Intel Core i5 12th generation in my gaming rig. I've been thinking about upgrading to the latest generation AMD processor. Is it worth the upgrade? I have it paired with a RTX 7600 XT.
You can go 7600X or 7600 with that GPU. Then I'd work on a GPU upgrade in the future. See our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2024. Then you'll be on a platform with a great upgrade path but the performance will be very similar to where you are now so up to you if that's worth it for now
@@PCBuilderChannel Thanks for the very quick reply. Thank you!
Jason you are the best! Keep it up!
Thank you! And thanks for watching!
I come from an i7 4790k, now that i will upgrade to a 4K gaming set up, should I go for the 9800x3d or the 7800x3d?
Does it matter in 4K either of them?
About a 10% difference between them so if the cost difference helps you upgrade other components great, otherwise 9800X3D is great
I had the 4790K asswell, upgraded to an 12600k with only a rtx2060. I play older games like ut99 and counterstrike in 4k. Older games runs on less cores but likes a high Single Thread Rating. A big difference on min fps, no fps under the 165 fps anymore in heavy fights, im so happy with it.
Man i wish we had price drops in my country
Sending good wishes for lower prices!
I have a 5700x3d with a 7900xt so I am good till AM6 platform gets established. By that point I should be able to upgrade to a 4k oled monitor too.
Sounds like a plan!
Intel assumed that they might do better launching before AMD. The problem is that they further damage their reputation and market share by launching an unfinished product.
wasnt a black Friday deal but i got a ryzen 7 7700x + ram + motherboard for the price of the cpu from canada computers