Obviously the unseen force is the Game Designers. They notice how much you suck at moving through the dungeons, so they throw your character out of it.
I got a theory, "Arceus" see's you and your partners as heroes since you go on daring missions to rescue people and stop evil. Once you take too long on a floor he rejects you from it because he believes you are lost. He doesn't want to watch a rescue team need to get rescued and have their reputation shatter. So in order to prevent you from getting lost and having to face shame, he summons a storm to gust you out. The gusts of wind beforehand was the storm gathering. The reason he doesn't rescue normal pokemon who get lost is because he see's no worth within them. What's the point of helping something worthless?
This always scared me as a kid and it still does today! It first happen to me in explorers of Darkness when I was in the frozen time dungeon that was already creepy enough. I got to what I consider a glitched floor that didn't have a staircase *anywhere.* After a while I was getting annoyed at the fact I couldn't find the staircase, but then the screen started to *violently rumble.* I was confused at the idea of this unseen force and started panicking. The rumbling was getting louder and more constant, my heart was beating out of my chest. Until I was in a narrow hallway fighting a steelix, and then, BOOM! I was done for and I resisted crying a little out of fear when I saw the final text box appear. I was incredibly confused about my death if it was story driven or if my copy was haunted ( I've read a few creepy pastas by that time). I couldn't find any information about this when I googled it and assumed the latter, I didn't touch that game for *weeks.*
Maybe Arceus creates the floors as you go along. The dungeon is a pocket dimension which changes every time it is entered, and each floor disappears after a certain amount of time. If this happens, all in the floor get completely destroyed. Arceus' plan? Blow them out if something goes wrong or the floor is about to collapse. (Sometimes, items can resist this wind, explaining how you lose some stuff.) He can also destroy floors if a new explorer comes in and the old floors haven't been destroyed yet.
I thought the large force of water in the Abyssal Ruins was a tad creepier. It starts off as a dull thump that's barely audible, until the whole screen shakes violently.
Yup when it said "its very close!" I literally just closed my DS in fear of what it could have been. At the time I didnt know it was just a pulse of water. However, I do wonder what the strange markings on the walls mean in the abyssal ruins and what caused the pulse of water. Finally how did the ruins end up underwater in the first place?
I always imagined that it was Kyogre and there was a super-hidden way to unlock him when I was a kid. Like you had to translate the hieroglyphs into a riddle.
@@arandomfoxhasappeared7426 am no, because you can do a one hit ko on the final boss eaay with a few grimm Seeds and one effektiv hit. Like vs dialga 1. Eat 2 grimm Seeds 2. Use Dig or focus punch ? I forgott the Attacks name And you get him with 1 hit and over 475 damage in like 4 Turns. This is the fastes way to kill all the legendäries in the game.
Wow, I finished the game and didn't even know about the "unseen force" at all...it's indeed kinda creepy. For a moment, I though you talked about the turn-based mechanic. That gave me some chills at the beginning.
lucy stewart it takes a long time until you get the message, about 200+ steps, you would have gone through 2 apples. I found this while farming for level and items.
Absol Lover I always did the whole map of every stage. Never got this. NEVER. So basically, you can do every dungeon with around 200 Steps... Well... Or it does only appear if you sit and wait.
Absol Lover floor, not a dungeon? I don't get this description. But whenever I was in anything, I used to do all the parts of the map and looked at every edge of it... So I happened to be in one stage for some time. One floor. You know?
klonvomhaus every floor, like F1,F2,BF1,BF2, etc. If you stay around on a floor for too long, you get blown out of the dungeon. Its much like Pokemon Black2/White2 in the abyssal dungeon. if you proceed in the next room, the timer will reset
Yeah I always wondered about that "force" too... but see, as I played Explorers of Sky, i figured it was in the main character's head, because its established that they have the (SPOILER?) . . . Dimensional scream, I always figured taking too long triggered some kind of reaction from the scream and your character just fainted and forgot exactly what happened.
Well, mystery dungeons are strange anomalies, no? Forever changing, disappearing and popping up out of thin air? It wouldn't be unreasonable to think that whatever mysterious force is pushing you out of the dungeon is just a part of how mystery dungeons work in general.
If you think taking to long to find the stairs in Mystery Dungeon is bad....Just try taking to long to find the stairs in Persona 3 in Tartarus. It'll easily make your creepy time limits list. Of course, you'd have to have played Persona 3 to know what I mean.
Roswell BlackRose until you pull out Armageddon and inflict 9999 damage... or if you're new game plus and not playing in ultra hard mode and have defeated Elizabeth in the Monad stages and aquire the omnipotent orb you're set... nulls about everything except almighty damage
+Julio Cortez - Sure. The creepiness factor lies in when you are too weak to do anything about it. Which is for like 80+% of the game. Most people encounter him while grinding for items and levels early on, as was my case.
Eh, here's something: If we're going by PMD logic of their world, all dungeons are filled with "Bad" Pokemon, so maybe the dungeons themselves affect Pokemon in a certain way to turn them, and Arceus knows that your pure of heart or intentions or something like and kicks you out so you don't become corrupt or some evil shit It's the best theory I can offer; Good Video
I think that "unseen force" is the dungeon itself. The dungeons create themself new everytime someone go and try to beat/discover them, so that "unseen force" is the wind blowing trough the dungeon when its start to become new (which happens also from time to time i think). But fact is: It´s stops the player to power level himself.
The reason because PMD:RRR "knew of" Lucario is because of the newest Pokémon movie, starring Lucario, yet still being in the 3rd generation, as no other pokemon from gen IV show up in the movie.
The Gen 3/4 transition was interesting. I remember my mind being blown a few years back when I was playing Pokemon XD on Gamecube. There was a part of the game where you could attract Munchlax, and I was convinced that one was only in G4. Wacky stuff.
When I first saw that, I expected something powerful and (virtually) unbeatable like the Reaper from Persona 3 to start roaming the map, to make you get out of there faster This is a lot lamer than I expected tbh, I’m glad I never took too long on one floor in this entire series
but it makes sure to point out that there is some unseen force, implying that it isn't just a simple time limit. when there is little time left, does mario or sonic games have a message box pop up saying, "something is going to be stopping you soon" or something like that when there is little time left on the timer? nope. but this game does...
There's another theory about the unseen force: That it's the Mystery Dungeon about to change itself. Since they are different each time, it would make sense if there was a fairly frequent changing cycle. Plus if it generated a new floor while you are on it, it may not be survivable or you could get permastuck in a wall or something. So it just boots you out. That's unsettling in it's own way of course because it's like the dungeons themselves are alive, but the dungeons are made to always be possible to reach the stairs (though some RNG sure feels like they're not at times, lol!). So some sentience wouldn't be too out of the question because it could be thinking about how to make itself doable for it's inevitable restructuring and not off explorers outright. That would explain other Mystery Dungeon games too because they also randomize but aren't set in the Pokemon world to be Arceus. Though those worlds could have their own mythical gods as well of course. So who knows. Maybe it'll be revealed one day or maybe not and they'll keep players guessing.
That does remind me, I remember while playing Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer (which was also made my Chunsoft), there was an NPC that mentions the mysterious force that will blow you out of the dungeon if you take too long. I forget the exact text, I think the guy mentions that the force was from a certain god, but I do recall that the NPC does state that "After all, wanderers aren't supposed to stay in one place for so long."
Maybe it's an invisible helicopter and humans were in mystery dungeon all along! Well, maybe not, but then again how do you get factory made stuff like max elixers?
Wait... an invisible force... strong gust of winds... it FORCES you out of the dungeons, which means you escaped the force... Holy cow... this is actually possible
I think I know why it's there from a design perspective. (Played Gates to Infinity!) I would find the staircase, huddle my team around me in a corner, and fast forward turns. This made enemy Pokemon come to attack and my friends would defeat them, really easy exp. The timer forced me to keep exploring instead of farming.
I like to believe that the unseen force is the dungeon itself. Every one who played a mystery dungeon knows that a dungeon changes every time you enter it. So my point is: The dungeons doesn't like to stay the same for too long so it tosses you out, what gives it the possibillity to change again. Maybe dungeons are even living things. Wouldn't be a surprise to me.
I think the gust of wind is and always has been Gates to Infinity's sub-antagonist: The Winds of Despair. It all makes perfect sense. And it does NOT help one bit knowing the identity of the thing that's out to get you! Just to think you're constantly being searched for by *the literally* most wicked and evil force out there... Once it finds you, it starts coming your way and it's not "let's explore" anymore, it's "FLOOR THE ENEMY, I NEED THE STAIRS, *NOW.* "
That Unseen Force mechanic freaked me the heck out when I was young. But when I was exploring a dungeon and it took me forever to try to get out of the floor, the force got to me and I got so upset, mainly because it happened on a 99 Floor Dungeon, and I just gave up after that.
Chances are the unseen force is raquaza or tornadus. Both of them are basically wind gods in the games. Plus raquaza was introduced in gen III, I think even being the final boss of the first mystery dungeon game's main game (someone correct me if I'm wrong). As for tornadus, well you already had that down when you made this video.
I have an odd theory This unseen force is (BEAR WITH ME) the ghost of a Swablu explorer who died before they could reach the stairs They think they're doing you a favor
Didn't know about this one. On the other hand, the chance of a monster house to spawn every time I stepped in a room scared the hell out of me and my childhood =(. And when it did, the music made me jump like crazy.
The unseen force isn't a Pokémon! It's Sonic! He gets impatient with you taking your time because he's speedy, and goes Super and uses his Tornado Spin (SSF2) to expell you from the dungeon! Sonic-and-Pokémon crossover comfirmed!
I don't really have a clue why Tornadus hasn't been mentioned yet, maybe its because its Gen 5? Also, "Tornadus can travel at speeds of 200 miles per hour (300 kilometers per hour). It can also whip up storms with its tail, and is able to blow away houses." It has also been stated that he is a trickster. So he blows you out of the dungeon making you restart it and laughing all the while.
I think the reason for the turn limit is to prevent players from causing an integer overflow, where the value of the turns taken goes over a limit of 255. Integer overflows could cause glitches, so if this is the case, pretty good, but freaky, glitch prevention system.
That'd be funny if you had to stay in any dungeon long enough and the weird messages would eventually lead to some legendary pokemon fighting you or something xD
Ah Pokemon mystery dungeon. Its music and surprisingly compelling story will always have a place in my hea-OH ARCEUS NOT THE WIND! ANYTHING BUT THE WIND!
The empty belly which makes text bubbles blink red is also a creepy time limit in this game. I remember dying constantly in Sinister Woods because of this. It was then when I discovered it existed.
Since I've played Mystery Dungeon for a long time, I can probably give you my theory on who this "Unseen Force" is. In one of my Mystery Dungeon games (I think it was either Blue or Time), they didn't call it the "Unseen Force". I'm not sure what they called it, but I remember being a little kid and saying, "What the hell?" to my screen when I got kicked out. My theory on who it is really depends on the dungeon. Instead of leaves all the time, sometimes there's snow in the snowy regions or sand in the desert. So, I believe that it really depends on the inhabitants, but I believe that it could be a legendary Pokemon from each of the dungeons that can be doing this as punishment for dwelling in their territory for too long.
I'm kind of sad that you didn't show the Lucario Statue in Red Rescue Team. It's easily my favorite Pokemon game and I'm really glad you made a video on it.
Yeah, this nearly made me crap myself when I first discovered it. What I was trying to do was recruit a hard pokemon to get, and I was just getting unlucky, when suddenly I saw that first message pop up. I was a little unnerved, but I purposefully stayed on that floor cause I was curious about it. The "Something's coming" message made me think a legendary was about to show up or something! So I got super scared and just started waiting for whatever was coming to get me. Scariest buildup I ever had to sit through! D: But then I just got forced out the dungeon, which I kinda thought was a little disappointing. I thought Poke-Satan was gonna descend upon my team and eat them or somethin. I had a weird imagination XD
Thankfully, something like this will never happen in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 5 because the unseen force was removed from this game, thanks Spike Chunsoft !
Wow that red rescue team opening hit me with nostalgia harder than I ever would have thought it could I never even beat that game (well I played blue rescue team but still) FR though the Tiny Woods theme and the music of either the level directly after it or the one after that really disturbed me for some reason Edit: as for explorers of sky, I never got past that gang of electrike and manectric. The damn inability to use status effect items and such really screwed me over
These are my theories: 1-Unknown Natural disaster: a pretty lame choice but it might be, when the game pops up "Something is coming" it doesn't specify if its a pokemon behind this or whatnot, something that would be questioning this is what type of natural disaster? Pokemon can create rain,snow,etc, but no one absolutely creates this effect (granted Mega Rayquaza has Delta Stream, but i don't think that is). 2-A move that resembles or is Whirlwind: Whirlwind effect forces the opposing pokemon to switch out in the main games, but in MD works different, pushing them, thats the issue. It really is a mystery, whether its a pokemon or not makes this really intriguing, the pokemon mystery dungeon world is really mysterious in many ways, I wish one day someone answers this unseen force.
Wait there's a time limit to the dungeon games? I didn't know when I was exploring the whole of one floor for items I was actually walking closer and closer to death. Things just escalated quickly in mystery dungeons.
I was looking for Pokemon to recruit, holding A&B in one spot and then that "unseen force" thing came and creeped the hell out of me. I had no idea they had turn limits in this game before that. I thought it was a random legendary encounter like Lugia or some stuff, and then curiosity eventually blew me out of the dungeon.
I remember when this happened to me. I was playing explorers of sky and when I saw the ''Something's stirring.....'' line I knew I was going to get kicked out of the dungeon. I was still freaked out because I was in a really long dungeon, and I didn't wanna do it again.. I never knew what happened though, because by the time the ''It's really close..!'' line showed up, I found the stairs.
Man could you imagine if arceus was blowing you out of the dungeon because there was something worse approaching and they were trying to protect you from it?
My vote would be on the wind djin trio being the cause of the unseen force. Fits their M/O and they could do it for no other reason than to have a good chuckle
+Robert Baker If it's Tornadus, then how come you can't directly fight back? The only pokemons who have relatively enough power to repel legendaries like Dialga and Palkia are Mew, Mewtwo, and Arceus. Mew because of its DNA (and pranking personality, if we're putting motive into question), Mewtwo because of its enhancements over Mew's DNA (and its image, if motive must be explained), and Arceus because of its creation powers (and the fact he has to "rearrange" the "mystery" dungeon, as a motive).
The first and only time I think I've unintentionally run this turn timer down was way in Explorers of Time when I was trying to recruit Deoxys. He's the sole Pokémon on a huge floor, so it's very easy to run out of time trying to find him or waiting until he runs into you. Getting the specs to let you see all Pokémon on the floor was mandatory for me to get him because I was absolutely terrified of that unseen force back then lol.
Obviously the unseen force is the Game Designers.
They notice how much you suck at moving through the dungeons, so they throw your character out of it.
I think it’s just to prevent EXP farming...
Also I think I remember being stuck at the mail system if there was one XD
Like a tree throwing it's saplings
Arceus appears in Super Mystery Dungeon during that cut Cena and at one of the final levels
Maybe the force is Benevolent? 'Rescuing' you from the dungeon because it believes you have gotten lost within and cannot find your way out.
+Breakfast
*cough* Lost pokemons have to request help *cough*
Most POKeMON have no knowledge of this "Mysterious force" and hence asks for help.
Breakfast I
@@extremmefan7305 Speaking of which, how does that work? Do they have psychic powers and know in advance that they're going to get lost?
I got a theory, "Arceus" see's you and your partners as heroes since you go on daring missions to rescue people and stop evil. Once you take too long on a floor he rejects you from it because he believes you are lost. He doesn't want to watch a rescue team need to get rescued and have their reputation shatter. So in order to prevent you from getting lost and having to face shame, he summons a storm to gust you out. The gusts of wind beforehand was the storm gathering. The reason he doesn't rescue normal pokemon who get lost is because he see's no worth within them. What's the point of helping something worthless?
This always scared me as a kid and it still does today! It first happen to me in explorers of Darkness when I was in the frozen time dungeon that was already creepy enough. I got to what I consider a glitched floor that didn't have a staircase *anywhere.* After a while I was getting annoyed at the fact I couldn't find the staircase, but then the screen started to *violently rumble.* I was confused at the idea of this unseen force and started panicking. The rumbling was getting louder and more constant, my heart was beating out of my chest. Until I was in a narrow hallway fighting a steelix, and then, BOOM! I was done for and I resisted crying a little out of fear when I saw the final text box appear. I was incredibly confused about my death if it was story driven or if my copy was haunted ( I've read a few creepy pastas by that time). I couldn't find any information about this when I googled it and assumed the latter, I didn't touch that game for *weeks.*
Nice story 😂😆^_^
Glitched floor? That happened to me once and I quit before it (what I think is the three legendary birds) blew me away.
hgnbfc2 Why do so many people have that derpy Dedede profile picture?
Lillie It's a meme.. Maybe
hgnbfc2 wow pussy
when i found out i thought it was like a sort of super boss coming
Jordan Oglesby me too😁😁😁
And then you wanted to fight. But instead you got kicked out of the stage
@@BlancaGarcia-zr5lb exactly my thoughts 9 years ago
Well turns out the copy i played was hacked and i found it out right after this happend and the thing scared the shit out of me
8 yo me: Pokémon fight coming?
21 yo me who still has it on gba: Pokémon fight coming?
Its pidgey.
-on steroids
(@ Angela Robertson) You mean on X-Attack..!
...iods...
whirlwind
No it tornadus using hurricane
the wrath of the Pidgeys he killed.
That was pretty creepy "Something is coming…"
"It's getting closer"
''Its Nearby''
Oh wait,thats just Greg
@@proballyuselessacc1966 It's gusting *H A R R R R D*
Impending doom approaches...
And so have I
Maybe Arceus creates the floors as you go along. The dungeon is a pocket dimension which changes every time it is entered, and each floor disappears after a certain amount of time. If this happens, all in the floor get completely destroyed. Arceus' plan? Blow them out if something goes wrong or the floor is about to collapse. (Sometimes, items can resist this wind, explaining how you lose some stuff.) He can also destroy floors if a new explorer comes in and the old floors haven't been destroyed yet.
Oh its a skitty throws pokeball
Interesting theory
I thought the large force of water in the Abyssal Ruins was a tad creepier. It starts off as a dull thump that's barely audible, until the whole screen shakes violently.
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Yup when it said "its very close!" I literally just closed my DS in fear of what it could have been. At the time I didnt know it was just a pulse of water. However, I do wonder what the strange markings on the walls mean in the abyssal ruins and what caused the pulse of water. Finally how did the ruins end up underwater in the first place?
I always imagined that it was Kyogre and there was a super-hidden way to unlock him when I was a kid. Like you had to translate the hieroglyphs into a riddle.
AsrielMemeurr413 I used to think that too.
Ocsttiac SAME
The mystery dungeon time limits terrified me when I was little. They still do, actually. *shivers*
+crystal bubbles Same.
kill doctor eggman
kill doctor eggman
I think that it is a mechanic for stopping you from buffing up so buff that you defeat the final boss in 1 hit
@@arandomfoxhasappeared7426 am no, because you can do a one hit ko on the final boss eaay with a few grimm Seeds and one effektiv hit.
Like vs dialga
1. Eat 2 grimm Seeds
2. Use Dig or focus punch ?
I forgott the Attacks name
And you get him with 1 hit and over 475 damage in like 4 Turns.
This is the fastes way to kill all the legendäries in the game.
Wow, I finished the game and didn't even know about the "unseen force" at all...it's indeed kinda creepy.
For a moment, I though you talked about the turn-based mechanic. That gave me some chills at the beginning.
I went through the whole of mod sky and I didn't know about this!
lucy stewart it takes a long time until you get the message, about 200+ steps, you would have gone through 2 apples. I found this while farming for level and items.
Absol Lover I always did the whole map of every stage. Never got this. NEVER. So basically, you can do every dungeon with around 200 Steps... Well... Or it does only appear if you sit and wait.
Absol Lover floor, not a dungeon? I don't get this description. But whenever I was in anything, I used to do all the parts of the map and looked at every edge of it... So I happened to be in one stage for some time. One floor. You know?
klonvomhaus every floor, like F1,F2,BF1,BF2, etc. If you stay around on a floor for too long, you get blown out of the dungeon. Its much like Pokemon Black2/White2 in the abyssal dungeon. if you proceed in the next room, the timer will reset
So with that logic, Giratina was sentenced to an eternity in the distortion world by Arceus for the crimes of being overly violent and...loitering
Yeah I always wondered about that "force" too... but see, as I played Explorers of Sky, i figured it was in the main character's head, because its established that they have the
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Dimensional scream, I always figured taking too long triggered some kind of reaction from the scream and your character just fainted and forgot exactly what happened.
Well, mystery dungeons are strange anomalies, no? Forever changing, disappearing and popping up out of thin air? It wouldn't be unreasonable to think that whatever mysterious force is pushing you out of the dungeon is just a part of how mystery dungeons work in general.
Arceus theory is all dandy and cool... except he makes appearance in the WiiWare games.
Which never got exported outsie of Japan.
lol poor Arceus.
LunarRay And he then appeared in Super Mystery Dungeon. As a side character that does less than Mewtwo. Who doesn't have lines in the game.
That's for a very damn good reason.
@@lyncario5515 wasn't Arceus that teleported you and your partner to the tree of life tho?
it's actually a really bad fart brewing in your guts.
I'm a genius.
Are you even sure Pokemon fart
Where do you think snorlax's food goes bruh
rekt
end my suffering
XD
*fart noise*
dare bear
Muk is made out of sewage. If there’s shit, there’s definitely farts.
Guys, I know who the unseen force is. It's the greatest flying type of them all. It's...
Pidgey.
Yeah, it is probably one using whirlwind.
How bout hoppip?
That was the funniest thing I've ever seen in my entire life
That's one *BIG* pidgey!
kwop64 pfft. Its not rayquaza or something off course. But what IF I told you..
It was...
Starly!
He didnt appear in gen 3 yet, So they hides it.
I know who the unseen force is, a certain bird-type.
Missingno. o3o
jk but that would be pretty cool though
it's lugia
+Soul Story But you can still get the unseen force if you play as Lugia when you recruit it.
... You got me there. Now I need to think of another Wind pokemon.
Soul Story Bassically it needs to be a wind type that in no game is either recruited or defeated for good.
+The Master of Bad Puns (T.M.B.P.) o3o It could.
If you think taking to long to find the stairs in Mystery Dungeon is bad....Just try taking to long to find the stairs in Persona 3 in Tartarus. It'll easily make your creepy time limits list. Of course, you'd have to have played Persona 3 to know what I mean.
The card is cursed! Death draws near!
Fuuka:
"I have a feeling that Death is near!"
"Be careful! I sense Death!"
"No! You can't defeat it! RUN!!!"
Roswell BlackRose until you pull out Armageddon and inflict 9999 damage... or if you're new game plus and not playing in ultra hard mode and have defeated Elizabeth in the Monad stages and aquire the omnipotent orb you're set... nulls about everything except almighty damage
+Julio Cortez - Sure. The creepiness factor lies in when you are too weak to do anything about it. Which is for like 80+% of the game. Most people encounter him while grinding for items and levels early on, as was my case.
Roswell BlackRose i know, i deliberatly grinded from floor 2 to 10 again and again whereas i wouldn't go to the next floor unless he appeared
Eh, here's something: If we're going by PMD logic of their world, all dungeons are filled with "Bad" Pokemon, so maybe the dungeons themselves affect Pokemon in a certain way to turn them, and Arceus knows that your pure of heart or intentions or something like and kicks you out so you don't become corrupt or some evil shit
It's the best theory I can offer; Good Video
I think that "unseen force" is the dungeon itself.
The dungeons create themself new everytime someone go and try to beat/discover them, so that "unseen force" is the wind blowing trough the dungeon when its start to become new (which happens also from time to time i think).
But fact is: It´s stops the player to power level himself.
The reason because PMD:RRR "knew of" Lucario is because of the newest Pokémon movie, starring Lucario, yet still being in the 3rd generation, as no other pokemon from gen IV show up in the movie.
The Gen 3/4 transition was interesting. I remember my mind being blown a few years back when I was playing Pokemon XD on Gamecube. There was a part of the game where you could attract Munchlax, and I was convinced that one was only in G4. Wacky stuff.
PokemonFan2000Man dont forget the bonsley either (srry if i spelled that wrong.)
+PokemonFan2000Man 7yuu
Dea Lipps Cool!
Lukrial Doesn't Weavile apear in movie 8?
Can Lub Lub make a doorstop for me? :D
Jumpayh Bi-Ohmes can.it is counting as a link because you dont put a space after the period.
Jumpayh Bi-Ohmes no im telling you why can.it counts as a link....
Jumpayh Bi-Ohmes you asked and I told you
supershadow64ds
hello :D
supershadow64ds
It was quite adequate.
ugh i remember the "something's stirring" thing from when i played explorers of sky, unnerving as shit
When I first saw that, I expected something powerful and (virtually) unbeatable like the Reaper from Persona 3 to start roaming the map, to make you get out of there faster
This is a lot lamer than I expected tbh, I’m glad I never took too long on one floor in this entire series
It may be just one of those mechanics. You don't know what blew you out the same way we don't know what kills Mario and Sonic when the timer runs out.
but it makes sure to point out that there is some unseen force, implying that it isn't just a simple time limit. when there is little time left, does mario or sonic games have a message box pop up saying, "something is going to be stopping you soon" or something like that when there is little time left on the timer? nope. but this game does...
There's another theory about the unseen force: That it's the Mystery Dungeon about to change itself. Since they are different each time, it would make sense if there was a fairly frequent changing cycle. Plus if it generated a new floor while you are on it, it may not be survivable or you could get permastuck in a wall or something. So it just boots you out. That's unsettling in it's own way of course because it's like the dungeons themselves are alive, but the dungeons are made to always be possible to reach the stairs (though some RNG sure feels like they're not at times, lol!). So some sentience wouldn't be too out of the question because it could be thinking about how to make itself doable for it's inevitable restructuring and not off explorers outright. That would explain other Mystery Dungeon games too because they also randomize but aren't set in the Pokemon world to be Arceus. Though those worlds could have their own mythical gods as well of course. So who knows. Maybe it'll be revealed one day or maybe not and they'll keep players guessing.
It's Lub-Lub who did it!
Mew-two
Emma Lakshmi Rajaratnam Wilding Nope
Emma Lakshmi Rajaratnam Wilding
PUNS
That does remind me, I remember while playing Mystery Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer (which was also made my Chunsoft), there was an NPC that mentions the mysterious force that will blow you out of the dungeon if you take too long. I forget the exact text, I think the guy mentions that the force was from a certain god, but I do recall that the NPC does state that "After all, wanderers aren't supposed to stay in one place for so long."
the mysterious force comes from a Snorlax sleeping in the dungeon, when it farts. it's stench is so horrible it's forces you to leave.
Maybe it's an invisible helicopter and humans were in mystery dungeon all along! Well, maybe not, but then again how do you get factory made stuff like max elixers?
Wait... an invisible force... strong gust of winds... it FORCES you out of the dungeons, which means you escaped the force... Holy cow... this is actually possible
I Sexually identify as an attack Hectorcopter. I also rate this 7.8/10 too many references to random shit. Is it a big or a remote-helicopter though?
rofl copter
I think I know why it's there from a design perspective. (Played Gates to Infinity!) I would find the staircase, huddle my team around me in a corner, and fast forward turns. This made enemy Pokemon come to attack and my friends would defeat them, really easy exp. The timer forced me to keep exploring instead of farming.
Oh, how I adore Mystery Dungeon.
The unseen force is just the dungeon itself, *it's alive.*
I like to believe that the unseen force is the dungeon itself. Every one who played a mystery dungeon knows that a dungeon changes every time you enter it. So my point is: The dungeons doesn't like to stay the same for too long so it tosses you out, what gives it the possibillity to change again. Maybe dungeons are even living things. Wouldn't be a surprise to me.
I was expecting you to mention hunger at some point.
I'm calling Lugia. Its Signature move is the second most powerful Flying type move and the most accurate (Without including guaranteed accuracy moves)
+epic.apri.39 I have to disagree, if you recruit Lugia, and play as hiom in the dungeon you can still get the message.
+Dr. Eggman Baby Lugia? :D
Dr. Eggman reasons.
epic.apri.39 Hmm, seems legit, but how would there even be a baby lugia in the first place. I think its
IDK actually
*cough cough* watch the movie starring lugia *cough cough*
What the fri--THIS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME! NOW I'M GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY TERRIFIED PLAYING THIS GAME!
The unseen force is the being that raised the dungeons from the ground. It must be a magi!
I think the gust of wind is and always has been Gates to Infinity's sub-antagonist: The Winds of Despair.
It all makes perfect sense. And it does NOT help one bit knowing the identity of the thing that's out to get you! Just to think you're constantly being searched for by *the literally* most wicked and evil force out there... Once it finds you, it starts coming your way and it's not "let's explore" anymore, it's "FLOOR THE ENEMY, I NEED THE STAIRS, *NOW.* "
+13gamerbullet
So, just WHO could've created those Winds of Despair?
Yveltal? Or maybe it's Lub Lub, not realising you've been Pokémon'd? Lub Lub has always been mysterious...
That Unseen Force mechanic freaked me the heck out when I was young. But when I was exploring a dungeon and it took me forever to try to get out of the floor, the force got to me and I got so upset, mainly because it happened on a 99 Floor Dungeon, and I just gave up after that.
what if it's a pidgey on steroids?
Pfffft, yeah right
And I am the Almighty Bidoof
Gustiiiiiiiiiiing haaaaaaaaaaard!!!!!!!!!!!
*Wailord appears* NOPE.
Pidgeot
stronk Pidgey
The unseen force is wigglytuff being mad at you for taking too long.
Chances are the unseen force is raquaza or tornadus. Both of them are basically wind gods in the games. Plus raquaza was introduced in gen III, I think even being the final boss of the first mystery dungeon game's main game (someone correct me if I'm wrong). As for tornadus, well you already had that down when you made this video.
Maybe In PMD4, That Mysterious Force Gets A Bigger Role, And It's Revealed To Be Yveltal!
FlygonTripleDeluxe EX AKA fireflowerx Nope
Lol no
That demon bird dragon boy was probally still bussy sitting in his coocon
I have an odd theory
This unseen force is (BEAR WITH ME) the ghost of a Swablu explorer who died before they could reach the stairs
They think they're doing you a favor
@@thirdwheel9938 why not
Didn't know about this one. On the other hand, the chance of a monster house to spawn every time I stepped in a room scared the hell out of me and my childhood
=(. And when it did, the music made me jump like crazy.
Maybe Arceus is forcing you out because the dungeons are actually sacred ground.
I first encountered this in Aegis Cavern when I was hunting for the right Unown stones to unlock the next couple of floors.
Great! Now I have to dig around my whole game library in the attic to find Pokémon Mystery Dungeon because I want to play it RIGHT NOW! Thanks
It's obvious that it is MissingNO beacause he's a normal-flying type and he is always known as a mysterious force!
I AGREE
Bird/Normal type, actually.
Lillie Only bird
*Bird
ITS ALL TYPES TO ME!
This almost blew me out of a dungeon many times,in all the games.But it was normally in the last dungeon of the story/post game.
These games just gave me the chills overall. I hated the mystery dungeon games
The unseen force isn't a Pokémon! It's Sonic! He gets impatient with you taking your time because he's speedy, and goes Super and uses his Tornado Spin (SSF2) to expell you from the dungeon! Sonic-and-Pokémon crossover comfirmed!
+Dylan Bullock
Mario (or Kirby, if Mario isn't strong enough) would've fired him from the Pokémon dimension by now.
i love how you capitalized "He" and "Him" on arceus
I only ever got to the first part of the "Something is stirring" thing, but it was enough for me to hide under my blankets for 2 nights.
I never even got to the first warning of the unseen force in PMD5, and that's because the unseen force was removed from this game.
I think it's rayquaza just crossing his arms and tapping it's fingers like "come on man you suck"
The unseen force is your little brother breathing down your neck as you play
I didnt even knew this from my favorite series, thanks for that warning
I thought the unseen force was lugia using aeroblast
I don't really have a clue why Tornadus hasn't been mentioned yet, maybe its because its Gen 5? Also, "Tornadus can travel at speeds of 200 miles per hour (300 kilometers per hour). It can also whip up storms with its tail, and is able to blow away houses." It has also been stated that he is a trickster. So he blows you out of the dungeon making you restart it and laughing all the while.
I think the reason for the turn limit is to prevent players from causing an integer overflow, where the value of the turns taken goes over a limit of 255. Integer overflows could cause glitches, so if this is the case, pretty good, but freaky, glitch prevention system.
But then why would the turn limit continue to exist up to PMD1DX, only to be removed later on, starting from PMD5 onwards ?
I have a fear of "rising insta-death" in games. (8-6 in New Super Mario Bros)
0:30 that's a weird walk cycle. The music makes it even worse. XD
Oh my god lmao
That reminds me of that one game where you walk to the beat of the music, and the games even kind of look similar.
(sees Red Rescue Team title screen and hears awesome music)
*Squees with nostalgia*
That'd be funny if you had to stay in any dungeon long enough and the weird messages would eventually lead to some legendary pokemon fighting you or something xD
Ah Pokemon mystery dungeon. Its music and surprisingly compelling story will always have a place in my hea-OH ARCEUS NOT THE WIND! ANYTHING BUT THE WIND!
The empty belly which makes text bubbles blink red is also a creepy time limit in this game. I remember dying constantly in Sinister Woods because of this. It was then when I discovered it existed.
It might unintentionally be a Lugia. His wings can tear down houses.
Since I've played Mystery Dungeon for a long time, I can probably give you my theory on who this "Unseen Force" is. In one of my Mystery Dungeon games (I think it was either Blue or Time), they didn't call it the "Unseen Force". I'm not sure what they called it, but I remember being a little kid and saying, "What the hell?" to my screen when I got kicked out. My theory on who it is really depends on the dungeon. Instead of leaves all the time, sometimes there's snow in the snowy regions or sand in the desert. So, I believe that it really depends on the inhabitants, but I believe that it could be a legendary Pokemon from each of the dungeons that can be doing this as punishment for dwelling in their territory for too long.
And there's also bubbles in water dungeons.
Ngl, first time i got that "something is aproching..." messege on the remake, it scared the shart out of me. And it was like 2 AM too!
Maybe the unseen force is tornadus
I always thought it was that evil Gengar waiting to assassinate you or something...
I think it's rayquaza as he's the final boss in the game
Lakshmi Wilding
zomgdrhax
i've never played it so i will never know
I think it is Lugia
Colin Bailey
we will never know! i still think it might be tornadus becuase he is the god of the wind in the pokemon world
I'm kind of sad that you didn't show the Lucario Statue in Red Rescue Team. It's easily my favorite Pokemon game and I'm really glad you made a video on it.
Dat HP tho.
Maybe it could've been a much stronger Flying-type Pokemon who knew the move Whirlwind?
Just an assumption.
More tense, not to mention on top of how hard mystery dungeon is in the first place
I think that the unknown force is Rayquaza. It makes sense because Rayquaza is part flying and can learn moves like "Twister"
+Natalie Frisch even though peronally i never played mystery dungeon thats exactly what i was thinking
+Natalie Frisch
But how can it be Rayquaza if it still happens when you're playing as him? I am sure he wouldn't blow HIMSELF out of the dungeon. xD
+KoolredfoxPlays
What if there are TWO of them?
noneedforname
Well, that could be a slight possibility. Although, there's usually only one of every legendary in each Pokemon.
KoolredfoxPlays
Well, it might be Arceus himself because I don't think you can recruit him.
Yeah, this nearly made me crap myself when I first discovered it. What I was trying to do was recruit a hard pokemon to get, and I was just getting unlucky, when suddenly I saw that first message pop up. I was a little unnerved, but I purposefully stayed on that floor cause I was curious about it. The "Something's coming" message made me think a legendary was about to show up or something! So I got super scared and just started waiting for whatever was coming to get me. Scariest buildup I ever had to sit through! D:
But then I just got forced out the dungeon, which I kinda thought was a little disappointing. I thought Poke-Satan was gonna descend upon my team and eat them or somethin. I had a weird imagination XD
Thankfully, something like this will never happen in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 5 because the unseen force was removed from this game, thanks Spike Chunsoft !
Wow that red rescue team opening hit me with nostalgia harder than I ever would have thought it could
I never even beat that game (well I played blue rescue team but still)
FR though the Tiny Woods theme and the music of either the level directly after it or the one after that really disturbed me for some reason
Edit: as for explorers of sky, I never got past that gang of electrike and manectric. The damn inability to use status effect items and such really screwed me over
These are my theories:
1-Unknown Natural disaster: a pretty lame choice but it might be, when the game pops up "Something is coming" it doesn't specify if its a pokemon behind this or whatnot, something that would be questioning this is what type of natural disaster? Pokemon can create rain,snow,etc, but no one absolutely creates this effect (granted Mega Rayquaza has Delta Stream, but i don't think that is).
2-A move that resembles or is Whirlwind: Whirlwind effect forces the opposing pokemon to switch out in the main games, but in MD works different, pushing them, thats the issue.
It really is a mystery, whether its a pokemon or not makes this really intriguing, the pokemon mystery dungeon world is really mysterious in many ways, I wish one day someone answers this unseen force.
Wait there's a time limit to the dungeon games? I didn't know when I was exploring the whole of one floor for items I was actually walking closer and closer to death. Things just escalated quickly in mystery dungeons.
That music after you said arceus is terrifying..
Even the overworld music is scary to be honest.
You mean tiny woods?
also I feel the guest of wind could be a tornado in the first one, not sure what it is any farther
I was looking for Pokemon to recruit, holding A&B in one spot and then that "unseen force" thing came and creeped the hell out of me. I had no idea they had turn limits in this game before that. I thought it was a random legendary encounter like Lugia or some stuff, and then curiosity eventually blew me out of the dungeon.
I remember when this happened to me. I was playing explorers of sky and when I saw the ''Something's stirring.....'' line I knew I was going to get kicked out of the dungeon. I was still freaked out because I was in a really long dungeon, and I didn't wanna do it again.. I never knew what happened though, because by the time the ''It's really close..!'' line showed up, I found the stairs.
the unseen force could just be shiftry with all the leaves
I knew it, the "unseen force" had to be the Pokégod itself.
The unseen force could possibly be the bird form of Missingno.
The unseen force is a gust of wind Arecus makes when you bore him.
I knew I wasn't mad when I first saw that I absolutely rushed to finish the dungeon after I saw the alert
Man could you imagine if arceus was blowing you out of the dungeon because there was something worse approaching and they were trying to protect you from it?
My vote would be on the wind djin trio being the cause of the unseen force. Fits their M/O and they could do it for no other reason than to have a good chuckle
Tornadus could be a theory?
***** it isn't the first time they've announced a pokemon before it being in the game.
Ho-oh, togepi, lucario, hoopa, to name a few
Robert Baker Munchlax
+Robert Baker Marill, Weavile, some 6th gen pkmn etc
+Robert Baker
If it's Tornadus, then how come you can't directly fight back?
The only pokemons who have relatively enough power to repel legendaries like Dialga and Palkia are Mew, Mewtwo, and Arceus.
Mew because of its DNA (and pranking personality, if we're putting motive into question), Mewtwo because of its enhancements over Mew's DNA (and its image, if motive must be explained), and Arceus because of its creation powers (and the fact he has to "rearrange" the "mystery" dungeon, as a motive).
I scrolled through the comments so I wouldn't say the same thing
The winds just mytseriously blew... I decided to run to the stairs quickly as possible.
I think that unknown force is the Mystery Dungeon floor wanting to reconfigure into a new format.
The first and only time I think I've unintentionally run this turn timer down was way in Explorers of Time when I was trying to recruit Deoxys. He's the sole Pokémon on a huge floor, so it's very easy to run out of time trying to find him or waiting until he runs into you.
Getting the specs to let you see all Pokémon on the floor was mandatory for me to get him because I was absolutely terrified of that unseen force back then lol.
I'm pretty sure that was Meteor Cave from Rescue Team. I might be wrong, since I've never played past the first parts of the post game in Explorers.
Fun fact: There's a debug menu in the Mystery Dungeon Red installment for the GBA. Nobody's found it in the Blue counterpart on the DS.
Maybe it's Magicarp splashing you away.
3:45 That. Music. Is. AWESOME!!!