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I don't normally issue these kinds of things, but I have a challenge for you, the biggest Legends fan I've ever seen. I challenge you to find something good about the Star Wars Holiday Specials. Why? Because until Disney retconned them out, each and every one of them were canon. Every. Single. One. If you can't find anything good about them, then answer me this? Is any part of Legends being canon worth the Holiday Specials staying canon?
@Sub if you want Hillary In prison I honestly probably know more about KOTOR than you do. Revan is my favorite character, and there are plenty of versions to take from yes. Revan Reborn as in the Revan novel after he got his mask would be my choice but Darth Revan and post-KOTOR Revan are also good choices
I can definitely see this happening if Darth Bane happened to come across and train Maul. Especially being trained as a proper apprentice as opposed to being Palpatine's lackey and personal assassin instead of being a proper apprentice. That said Bane would have no qualms in teaching Maul Force Lightning or other more advanced dark side techniques. The real question would be if Maul still learns and uses Teras Kasi. Nice job on this one SWRC.
I think Maul would be one of the most deadliest Sith ever if Bane had trained him, I know he was already very deadly but this time he would have been trained better and by probably one of the most tactical/intelligent Sith thinkers.
@@darthtator3549 I agree. Bane would have trained him in Soresu just like Zannah if he used a dual bladed lightsaber. But also probably the other styles as well, just mainly focusing on the defensive form. At least in my opinion. And that, would make him probably one of the deadliest Sith ever.
Darth maul had said he would have had no idea how to carry out the sith plan if sidious somehow died and he was the only sole sith lord left in existence, I think if Darth bane had trained him he would have provided more knowledge about the siths overall plans and would have prepared him for a bigger role for the events to come, under banes tutor ledge he would have been more than a sith assassin, he would have had the confidence to continue the sith plan to overthrow the republic
Maul was more than a mere Sith Assassin like Asajj Ventress, he was a true Sith Lord, given the title of Darth, referred as a rival Sith Lord, trained in all ways of the Sith -- including manipulation and accumulating as much power as possible; he was patient, calculating, and highly adept. Maul's knowledge of the Sith was immense after his time on Malachor, arguably more than Vader: "You have unlocked the secret of the temple, how did you accomplish this?" Maul was proficient in Nightsister Magicks and spells, such as when he merged his mind with Ezra. He also knows extremely forbidden knowledge like fusing Sith and Jedi holocrons, which I doubt even Sidious himself knew. Maul's power and knowledge of the dark side was so that he could survive being bisected and dumped onto Lotho Minor for twelve years -- where he held metal together to create spider legs for himself, constantly relying in the Force to do-so. The abilities primarily in question are Mecha Deru and Force Drain. I agree that Sidious kept a lot about the grand plan from him, but he didn't keep everything from him: "Ah yes, so [The Clone Wars] began -- without me." I just finished reading Maul Lockdown, and somehow gained an even greater fascination with the character. Can't wait to read Shadow Hunter when it arrives in my mail, in the meantime I'm reading Darth Plagueis for the first time.
@@dylanemery9855 the plagueis novel is superb, some of what I said about maul can been read in that novel too, its true that maul is a very accomplished sith, but I was talking from how sidious perceived him, as an assassin with no actual place his his plans moving forward, he was clearly extremely powerful
@@phantomsidious2934 Eh, I disagree that Sidious didn't have plans for Maul, at least in Canon: "I was destined to become... So much more." And of course as previously stated about his knowledge of The Clone Wars and his role he was supposed to play in it. Sidious -- even though he has Vader -- states: "Maul was a loss," which only further adds to Sidious' plans for Maul. Maul was his chosen apprentice long before Vader, Sidious planned to complete his training after Plagueis was killed, but Maul had been bisected and was perceived dead. Sidious in Lockdown states: "I alone grasp your true potential." Maul in Lockdown also states something regarding himself as Sidious' eventual successor, implied to be stated by Sidious himself. I can't think of the specifics, but it was somewhere in the middle of Maul Lockdown. I haven't read too many Star Wars books, I have a few coming in like Shadow Hunter and Ahsoka, currently I've read Maul Lockdown, Shadow Conspiracy, and am currently reading Darth Plagueis. Do you know of any Star Wars books that I could read that are worthwhile? I'm on the fence about getting the Thrawn books, I just don't entirely know what to expect, but I do like his character's analytical nature.
One thing you forgot to mention is that Maul originally used a single blade but switched to a double bladed lightsaber after getting his ass kicked by a recluse Twi'lek jedi with a stick and decided to just stick with that.
I’d say he’d make him the greatest Ataru master of all. Next to Yoda that is. He’s an expert in hand to hand combat, he chains strikes in with his lightsaber sequences better than anybody we’ve seen in Star Wars. He’s a natural.
Maul would have two light sabres not a sabre staff..He's better with two blades because of his speed, dexterity and quick recovery from blade strikes.. Then Maul's force powers would be something odd..When having two light sabre..Maul would figure out a way to cast force powers with facial expressions, screams, another language. Bane would force Maul to get creative and take initiative.
I'm at 1:32 and I'd say that Bane would teach Maul a dual wielded lightsaber style as Kazim had. Splitting his double bladed into two separate ones. He used it against sidious in the clone wars and it would work well with his athletic and powerful physique.
I think Sidious thought of maul as only a tool. One to be used and disposed of once it's usefulness have gone. Maul using his fury would've made him a more competent killer. Which is all he was meant to be. Great video as always. Thanks.
Tbh I don't think Palpatine ever viewed Maul as a true Sith Lord. He was more of a Sith assassin, a weapon with a purpose but quickly cast aside once he's no longer of use.
Indeed, even if he survived on naboo, I fail too see how he would go beyond just being an assassin, count dooku was far more suitable as an apprentice, because of his character, title, and ability to unite thousands of star systems across the galaxy, maul would still be an assassin, and probably killed by dooku, or by anakin as a test later on
Yeah, I wonder what Palpatine's original plan was, how he would have proceeded if Maul was victorious on Naboo. I have a hard time imagining Maul becoming leader of the Separatists.
I agree Maul wouldn't be an ideal separatist leader, but to me, he a Sith Lord in cannon, while not in legends. Sidious has plans for him during and beyond the clone wars, we just don't know what they were. I would love to see the new Maul comics or some other comics to explore Sidious's plans for Maul. He most likely needed to change them after Maul's defeat, and saw Dooku as opportunity to proceed with a new one, most definitely an easier plan.
Thank you i love this! Most definaly Maul would have live up to his greatest potential under Bane's teachings especially with patience and channelling his aggression better.
Form 6 is kind of an odd one out. On the other hand it's been discarded many because of it's "jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none" status. Jedi master cin drallig told straight that it's not the form that is most worthy of study. However, some of the best swordsmen of the galaxy (like Exar Kun) have found the way to apply and be extremely successful with it. Also, considering that Jedi have tendecy of neglecting combat aspects of the force, something that form 6 is dependent it seems, it might just be that form 6 drawbacks are result of bad application of it rather than the form itself being weak.
I really enjoyed this. You should do one where what would happen if one master trained another. Ex(if bane trained sidious, or malgus trained Krayt, Andedu trained nihilus etc) you get the idea. I think those would be really interesting to hear as I still dont know a whole lot about legends outside of KotoR. There are so many channels who cover the new canon, which dont get me wrong, isn't a bad thing. I just really enjoy how much you talk about legends material also
I probably would’ve had maul use something similar to what kasim had, a saber staff that was really two separate lightsabers that can interlock to form a staff
Nah In Legends Mauls potential while high was not as upper compared to Sids, Plagueis, Dooku, Yoda, Mace, The Skywalkers, The Mereks, The Solos In Leias Line, Nor The Force Deities but it was higher then Obi Wans, Qui Gons, Shaak Tis, Yaddles, Aayla Securas, Quinlan Vos, Asajj Ventress, Plo Koon, Ki Adi Mundi, And every other character except the ones I listed above in old EU yeah.
rednose20000 ..... yeaaaa Or Darth Bane like he said. Marka Ragnos? Not even slightly. How would you cut out Darth Bane, the Sith’ari, the man who created the entire “grand plan” to begin with. Who blueprinted the republic’s usurpation and the Jedi order’s destruction. Palpatine would have done nothing if Bane didn’t set everything up perfectly for him to do so. Nothing. Bane would have forged him into the strongest Sith to ever live, he already was to begin with at that point. Until he got injured
rednose20000 and so could Bane. Do you remember how powerful of a sorceress Zannah was? Literally able to pull tendrils of malevolent energy that were basically the energy of the Darkside itself? Something Ragnos could never hope to do. Where do you think she learned her abilities from?? There’s a REASON Darth Bane was the Sith’ari. A reason he’s the one that was able to destroy the order and build it back up stronger than ever.
rednose20000 I know exactly who I’m talking about. And Darth Bane “mastered skills” that Ragnos would know nothing about. Which he passed onto Zannah. Ragnos stands in literally no comparison to power of Darth Bane. Bane and Sidious were the strongest Sith of all, Other than a pre-suited Vader but I don’t count him because he lasted for about 2-3 days.
rednose20000 😆😆😆😆 You’re an Idiot. You’ve just proved it. Good job. You’ve proven how little you really know. No, it was not “proven in Plagueis” at ALL. Not even slightly. Darth Bane WAS able to chest death, he actually knew HOW, plaguies was not. Darth Bane, Andeddu, Vitiate, And technically Sidious are the only ones who actually knew how to chest death with essence transfer. Bane was able to show himself as a Darkside spirit just like Ragnos was, In canon made directly by Lucas and filoni at that, not some old comic written by Tom Veitch, the worst writer in Star Wars history and the same idiot that contradicted everything about Star Wars with dark empire. That’s why I said “technically” with Sidious. Because Dark Empire doesn’t exist. It never happened. Lucas said it himself. That it contradicts the entire ending of the saga , and that it does not take place in the actual Star Wars universe. Tom Veitch THEN goes on to blatantly contradict himself AGAIN, and horribly I might add, in those same comics you’re referring to, completely contradicting Naga Sadow’s entire story, about him being some lifeblood who “rebelled against Ajunta Pall and the original Dark Lords” lmao. He’s a complete idiot. Stop trying to use things that were put together worse than a monkey could do and contradicted every other word it even said as a “sOuRcE”......... Yea, Marka Ragnos was powerful af sure , but he was NOWHERE near the level of Darth Bane and Darth Sidious. Period. That cannot be argued.
He would have been like Cognus I think. Not a massive powerhouse, but a mix of assassin and operative. Perfect for the Rule of Two. Ominous appearance, but it wouldn't matter in a world of holograms (and we know Maul has ability with manipulating criminal factions). Also, Zannah is so criminally underrated. Massive chance for exploration, if they wanted to explore the Sith and a great female character.
While I typically agree with your decisions on your videos, I must argue over this. As we know, Sidious was sincerely afraid of the Jedi and wanted to humiliate them as much as possible. We know this from dialogue as well as by the material from his lightsabers. So when he began training Maul, his apprentice was to be the the very embodiment of the dark side and everything that sith stand for. I believe Sidious trained Maul in the use of the saber staff for a couple reasons. One being that the weapon is especially effective against multiple enemies. This we witness in Phantom Menace. Another reason I believe the weapon was viable for the apprentice is that the saber staff is considered a sith weapon due to its history. Few Jedi knew how to properly attack and defend against such a weapon thereby creating a psychological factor. I also stand by the decision to train Maul in form VII. While some consider the form a weakness to the sith, many would consider it his greatest strength. Form VII is also considered the form of the sith by jedi and sith alike. This fact also contributes to Sidious making Maul the perfect sith lord. Maul was to be the exact opposite of everything the jedi are not. I personally believe that Mauls greatest weakness was his shortsightedness and as well as him depending on his own physical limits instead of the force.
I get the feeling that the Sith is more likely to push Niman to its limits as the greatest practitioners of the form was mostly Sith. This seems to another thing the Jedis code and overall policy of Restraint and Moderation works against them they rarely, if ever, push their limits in either the Force or lightsaber-combat. This could explain why Galen Marek could do things most thought to be impossible with the Force, there was nobody telling him it couldn't be done. Works on Old Republic Jedi and the Sith Masters of Old as well, they kept pushing themselves in ways the Post-Reformations Jedi did not. Anyway it was a fun video and best of luck with the next one :-)
Well, from what I recall, while Revan was a master of all forms, his preferred form was Niman(combined with mind reading and manipulation of his opponent's subconscious thoughts in the middle of combat to lead them to make subconscious mistakes).
Well it doesn't help that at least in Legends. Maul created his double bladed lightsaber in a fit of anger. He basically go his ass kicked by an even snootier than usual jedi with a wooden staff. And she kicked his ass so hard that Maul said "i'm gonna make a staff out of lightsabers."
@@darkwolf4434 Why does any of this even matter?! Disney made everything non canon and replaced it moronic shit! Lightsabers are now TRON sticks and the Sith somehow pull them out of thin air for the past thousand years.
@@aliastheabnormal Moroic shit? Like the Vader comics? Kanan Jarrus comics? Do you even know anything about the new Canon? Please tell me what is shit in the new Canon. And also it seems that it is you who wants to pick up a fight.
With the way Form VI works, it seems a bit wrong to say that it supplements Ataru; it's rather that this incarnation of Maul would be a Niman duelist that specializes in and enhances the Form IV aspects of it. Exar Kun's technique, while officially confirmed to be Niman, borders on Juyo in its ferocity and chaotic nature, and I think the same line of thought could be applied to Maul: Niman edging closer to Ataru. He certainly wouldn't be as heavy on the acrobatics as for example Yoda, so that seems about right to me. I also agree with your choice of weapon for Maul. Yeah, he's THE saberstaff wielder in everybody's mind thanks to TPM, but we have seen him without one in TCW all the time, so it's not like you have to adhere to that image. Form VI might be the go-to style for double-bladed lightsabers, but Ataru is probably ill-suited for it. I dare say the chances of Maul accidentally killing himself with his saberstaff would be higher if he tried to use it with Form IV. Given the styles you decided on for Maul, a single blade is the way to go.
I agree with saying that maul would be trained in form 4 and 6. Honestly, watching episode 1 that's actually what I got from that.. Especially after learning that maul was trained in hand to hand (a TK user) and form 4 uses physical attacks (unless you are Yoda)... One thing that you don't mention though... Both form 4 and 6 are pathways to dual wielding... So yes.. Maul wouldn't have his staff... But he would likely learn to swing two sabers... Maybe as just a backup... All in all.. We'd end up with someone that would have all the choices at a drop of a hat.. Single blade, two sabers, force powers, leathal unarmed fighting..
Personally, I disagree with the notion that Maul shouldn't be trained in Juyo. Yes, it was most effective when drawing on one's emotions and required serious mental discipline, but THAT is exactly why Maul was so efficient with it. Maul's emotions tied into Juyo so perfectly, and of course he was highly disciplined. As for mastering Maul in Ataru and Soresu, Maul already has knowledge of these two forms. In Maul Lockdown, towards the end of the book, Maul used an Ataru strike. Furthermore, Maul is incredibly acrobatic and implements physical strikes into his lightsaber sequences whenever he gets the opportunity. I don't doubt Maul did in-fact master Ataru purely based off that. Yes, his hand-to-hand prowess was primarily from Teras Kasi and various other exotic and forbidden martial arts, but I would also argue that Ataru played some role in Maul's martial art mastery. As for Soresu, Maul used its ready stance when engaging Sidious, and has also never had his defense broken by any opponent in Lightsaber combat, other than Lord Sidious. From that we can conclude that Maul was quite proficient with the Form, but no master of it. On top of all that, Maul was an absolute master of Niman, which was an amalgamation of the previous five Forms, including Soresu and Ataru.
@@DeathScepter Which is precisely why I believe Maul is perfectly suited to the Form, he is incredibly adept and disciplined, both physically and mentally. I think the best showing of this was Maul Lockdown.
You are right. Highly Self Disciplined is a trait that required or should be a requirement to even be considered to study Juyo. A common trait between Jedi and Sith is Self Discipline in order to truly master their teachings. One of the reasons that Jedi restricted Juyo to Jedi Masters due to that Jedi Masters are known for their Highly Self Disciplined Nature. True that the Sith relish in their darker emotions including Rage, Selfishness and Hate but understanding how to use those emotions is a part of Sith Teachings. Many Jedi and Sith die due to a lack of self control and self discipline.
There are downsides to Dual Wield similar to double-blade. It's good in groups, but against a master of single saber combat with knowledge of the weakness of Dual Wield, then you get something similar to Episode 2 when Anakin went against Dooku. Or say how Obi-Wan could hold off Grievous. If he mastered Niman it would be good to be highly proficient in Dual Wield though, but against a serious single threat that uses a Lightsaber it be best to go single. Depending on his Force development having one free hand when not doing to handed saber strikes can allow him more mobility with acrobatics, easier use of sith sorcery, and possibly stunning or winded a dangerous opponent with a well placed punch. If Mall mastered Tutaminis, then he could also use said open hand to even catch a Lightsaber strike which would make most opponents shocked long enough to be sliced up by his blade.
It's a lost conception, Bane favored force powers and "discreet" engagement against the Jedi, Mawl is the complete opposite of that philosophy, and is the one who broke the "masquerade" of the disappearance of the siths. I see no reason Bane would have considered or taken Mawl as an apprentice, and therefore further ponder and "polish him" in a different fashion than Sidious did.
there is a quote from bane in the novels in which he disagrees woth the jedi philosophy of teaching multiple forms. something about learn the form that suits you and use that. pretty sure it was in the final book
Ah finally, a What If. Thanks for the video Reading Club! Now I may not have the Bane book yet (I've heard a lot of awesome things about it), but it's an enjoyment to watch this video in detail. I think this is why Darth Bane was always a better Sith than Palpatine in the first place. Will you continue to do What If's? You should. P.S The green Twi'Lek was right actually, I even myself tested a practiced Saberstaff and it turns out, it's so limited. My Sith master would be Exar Kun or even Darth Plagueis, but in a Sith Holocron.
You seem to be going of the Book of the Sith and not the Bane Trilogy. You over simplified why Zannah used a double bladed saber. She did but it was a much shorter version then normal, shortening the the blade travel. Focusing on defense so she could use Sith sorcery, which was her primary discipline. Witch Bane considered the truest from of darkside power and more suited to her because of her physical size. Then if you go back to the Darth Plagueis book, Maul was never a Sith. He was a puppet that was only trained as an assassin, most secrets of the darkside were kept from him. That's the my main point, Bane would have trained Maul without keeping anything from him! Under Bane he would have been a Sith, not a tool. So I don't see how just what form he used under Sidious matters, his training would have been completely different from day one under Bane!
Did Anakin use ‘form 7’ fighting Obi-wan, completely losing himself in anger, choking his wife and ultimately overestimating his powers when ObiWan chopped his leg off?
Bane should resurrect like momin did and give sidious a tongue lashing of how much of a fool he was making maul just a mere assassin wasting his potential and insult both sidious and his master for destroying his legacy
Maul wasn’t a sith assasin he was true Sith Lord and heir to the banite rule of 2 their are multiple canon statements that say he had potential to surpass Sidious and even by TCW when he was out of practice and didn’t have double bladed lightsaber him and savage put up a great fight agaisnt Sidious Sidious: *''And my apprentices? Darth Maul was a loss. But Darth Tyranus... He was a proton torpedo.''* Source: Darth Vader #20 - End of Games, Part I (2016)
that's why I would have ventress's ability and turn 2 weapons to 1 so in a fight I can start with one if a stale mate bring out the second and combined just to try and throw them off
Star Wars Reading club could you do a what if sidious thought of Darth tyranus as a true apprentice (and not someone to hold the place until hè could train Anakin to be his apprentice) i think it would be interesting but not very likely
That would make Sidious an idiot. Dooku was an old man. No matter his power, he didn't have that much time left in his life. A Sith needs a successor that can last a while.
Diana Barnett sidious knew dooku was yoda best student so if sidious would had taught him a lot about the darth side it would have been double trouble for sidious
Diana Barnett yeah i know it would have been a dumbass decision that is Why i Said it wouldn’t be very likely that it was ever going to be the case but what i am talking about is that it would be an interesting scenerio if it did happen
If Darth Bane trained Darth Maul. The Maul would have been long dead before the events of Episode 1 lol. No, amount of the Force could prolong a life that long.....yes I know. I will be proved me wrong.
Darth maul was a niman practioner but favored juyo. He used niman to do a tactical retreat to seperate obi wan and qui gon, when dueling obi wan he used niman to push obi wan into the 'garbage shaft'.
Essentially this video compares different PURPOSES Maul would have been trained for. If Bane trained Maul, he'd have trained him as a proper apprentice in both lightsaber combat and in knowledge of the force. And eventually Maul would have grown strong enough to defeat Darth Bane and continue the Rule of Two with his own apprentice. All that is well and good, but Palpatine trained Maul as more of a Sith Assassin and didn't train him that much in Force because he wanted to keep Darth Plagueis off his back. Choice of the arguably more limited lightsaber staff was a clear indication of this. Maul was never meant to be strong enough to continue in the world of the Rule of Two, given that Palpatine believed in the Rule of One. Palpatine planned getting his hands on Anakin Skywalker so Maul, for all the training, was always meant to be discarded/done away with later on. Too bad Maul held a grudge against Obi-Wan and decided to kill him, but then, all his Sith life he was trained and indoctrinated to only see the immediate and for a few steps forward. And during his time after his first defeat to Obi-Wan he never learnt to really pick his alliances with a cool head.
Hey Starwarsreadingclub this awesome video first wanted say I completely agree that Maul be a Atura specialist after all if pay attention both in Canon and Legend in all his fight he use speed and agility, physical strike in combat all scream Atura if ask me and second when talking about defense elements I swear going say Soresu after must defensive form of all lightsaber combat and both Darth Bane and his apprentice use form so thought hyper dyes phone form Atura and Soresu would be were going then say Niman then remember that what Bane say about Sith force in combat and Niman have decent defense elements but also give Maul force attack elements as you say Bane his apprentice are master at it so completely agree choice lightsaber form but do have questions on his lightsaber don't think be trained double bladed lightsaber but do think wouldn't be single bladed lightsaber so want know if you think Maul trained in Two Lightsaber like the Sith Marauder in Swtor ask because Maul use this style against Darth Sidious in Star Wars Clone Wars tv show and Atura and Niman are exact forms that trained wielding two bladed so I just hear your opinion because to me sounds like is Maul to have this style lightsaber combat but let know what you think
They are pretty incompatible but a young Palpatine trained by Valkorion would change everything. Palpatine only killed Plagueis because he taught him all he knew. Valkorion has more than 2000 years of Sith knowledge , the possibilities are endless.
@@Verteidiger99 It seems that it is the one that wrote that first comment that is crying saying Star Wars was ruined because of 1 MOVIE that was released 1 YEAR ago, like seriously why do you people even still care??? And also this wasn't even a video about the new Canon.
Darth Bane would have simply destroyed Maul. He would have recognized that Maul just didn't have what it would take to become a true master of the sith and as a result he would destroy him and find a more worthy student.
Maul was still a high talent that is useful with physical abilities and unarmed combat few past, present, and future surpass Maul in those columns even if Maul is not the highest or near the highest force user or lightsaber duelist his physicalities and hand to hand fighting styles make up for it against most opponents yeah.
Why the rule of two was created sith cant agree and worked together for anything hell they are still killing each other with only 2 they are never going to give anybody props
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I can’t tell you how much it means to hear that you all love that era as well. Thank you very much and I hope that you all enjoy today’s video.
I think Djem so/ shien would be ok with Atari and battle master Niman. Maybe even makaski for precision
Do a whole bane trained series one a week.what if bane trained malgus.what if bane trained palpatine
I don't normally issue these kinds of things, but I have a challenge for you, the biggest Legends fan I've ever seen.
I challenge you to find something good about the Star Wars Holiday Specials. Why? Because until Disney retconned them out, each and every one of them were canon. Every. Single. One. If you can't find anything good about them, then answer me this? Is any part of Legends being canon worth the Holiday Specials staying canon?
@@lordnul1708 boba fett was introduced in a holiday special
@@dragonballtalk8527 really? I thought he was introduced in Empire Strikes Back.
What if Revan trained Anakin?
Which version and what stage of said version?
@Sub if you want Hillary In prison I honestly probably know more about KOTOR than you do. Revan is my favorite character, and there are plenty of versions to take from yes. Revan Reborn as in the Revan novel after he got his mask would be my choice but Darth Revan and post-KOTOR Revan are also good choices
Oh ho ho! NOW things are getting interesting.
I think What of Kreia trained Anakin is more interesting
He would attain balance and his force ability would be complete.
I can definitely see this happening if Darth Bane happened to come across and train Maul. Especially being trained as a proper apprentice as opposed to being Palpatine's lackey and personal assassin instead of being a proper apprentice. That said Bane would have no qualms in teaching Maul Force Lightning or other more advanced dark side techniques. The real question would be if Maul still learns and uses Teras Kasi.
Nice job on this one SWRC.
I think Maul would be one of the most deadliest Sith ever if Bane had trained him, I know he was already very deadly but this time he would have been trained better and by probably one of the most tactical/intelligent Sith thinkers.
@@EchthelionII if someone like bane or revan trained maul, maul wouldive changed alot more then ppl realize
@@darthtator3549 I agree. Bane would have trained him in Soresu just like Zannah if he used a dual bladed lightsaber. But also probably the other styles as well, just mainly focusing on the defensive form. At least in my opinion. And that, would make him probably one of the deadliest Sith ever.
Darth maul had said he would have had no idea how to carry out the sith plan if sidious somehow died and he was the only sole sith lord left in existence, I think if Darth bane had trained him he would have provided more knowledge about the siths overall plans and would have prepared him for a bigger role for the events to come, under banes tutor ledge he would have been more than a sith assassin, he would have had the confidence to continue the sith plan to overthrow the republic
Maul was more than a mere Sith Assassin like Asajj Ventress, he was a true Sith Lord, given the title of Darth, referred as a rival Sith Lord, trained in all ways of the Sith -- including manipulation and accumulating as much power as possible; he was patient, calculating, and highly adept. Maul's knowledge of the Sith was immense after his time on Malachor, arguably more than Vader: "You have unlocked the secret of the temple, how did you accomplish this?" Maul was proficient in Nightsister Magicks and spells, such as when he merged his mind with Ezra. He also knows extremely forbidden knowledge like fusing Sith and Jedi holocrons, which I doubt even Sidious himself knew. Maul's power and knowledge of the dark side was so that he could survive being bisected and dumped onto Lotho Minor for twelve years -- where he held metal together to create spider legs for himself, constantly relying in the Force to do-so. The abilities primarily in question are Mecha Deru and Force Drain. I agree that Sidious kept a lot about the grand plan from him, but he didn't keep everything from him: "Ah yes, so [The Clone Wars] began -- without me." I just finished reading Maul Lockdown, and somehow gained an even greater fascination with the character. Can't wait to read Shadow Hunter when it arrives in my mail, in the meantime I'm reading Darth Plagueis for the first time.
@@dylanemery9855 the plagueis novel is superb, some of what I said about maul can been read in that novel too, its true that maul is a very accomplished sith, but I was talking from how sidious perceived him, as an assassin with no actual place his his plans moving forward, he was clearly extremely powerful
@@phantomsidious2934 Eh, I disagree that Sidious didn't have plans for Maul, at least in Canon: "I was destined to become... So much more." And of course as previously stated about his knowledge of The Clone Wars and his role he was supposed to play in it. Sidious -- even though he has Vader -- states: "Maul was a loss," which only further adds to Sidious' plans for Maul. Maul was his chosen apprentice long before Vader, Sidious planned to complete his training after Plagueis was killed, but Maul had been bisected and was perceived dead. Sidious in Lockdown states: "I alone grasp your true potential." Maul in Lockdown also states something regarding himself as Sidious' eventual successor, implied to be stated by Sidious himself. I can't think of the specifics, but it was somewhere in the middle of Maul Lockdown. I haven't read too many Star Wars books, I have a few coming in like Shadow Hunter and Ahsoka, currently I've read Maul Lockdown, Shadow Conspiracy, and am currently reading Darth Plagueis. Do you know of any Star Wars books that I could read that are worthwhile? I'm on the fence about getting the Thrawn books, I just don't entirely know what to expect, but I do like his character's analytical nature.
@@dylanemery9855 Darth Vader lord of the sith and labyrinth of evil are two of my favourites I would recommend, plus the Darth bane novel
@@phantomsidious2934 Thanks, I'll be sure to check them out. :)
One thing you forgot to mention is that Maul originally used a single blade but switched to a double bladed lightsaber after getting his ass kicked by a recluse Twi'lek jedi with a stick and decided to just stick with that.
Is that canon or legends?
@@EchthelionII legends
@@sancturillore Ok, but if Bane trained him there's a possibility that that never happened.
@@EchthelionII more than just a possibility.
A lot of good points were made during this video
Ataru Maul with a sprinkle of lightning... watch out son
One does not simply watch out when you are already dead. 🤔
A dream come true! My two favourite siths and characters overall
Every time i see "Maul" in the title i instantly like the video, its not like i am bias or somthing...
I’d say he’d make him the greatest Ataru master of all. Next to Yoda that is. He’s an expert in hand to hand combat, he chains strikes in with his lightsaber sequences better than anybody we’ve seen in Star Wars. He’s a natural.
Maul would have two light sabres not a sabre staff..He's better with two blades because of his speed, dexterity and quick recovery from blade strikes.. Then Maul's force powers would be something odd..When having two light sabre..Maul would figure out a way to cast force powers with facial expressions, screams, another language. Bane would force Maul to get creative and take initiative.
I'm at 1:32 and I'd say that Bane would teach Maul a dual wielded lightsaber style as Kazim had. Splitting his double bladed into two separate ones. He used it against sidious in the clone wars and it would work well with his athletic and powerful physique.
I think Sidious thought of maul as only a tool. One to be used and disposed of once it's usefulness have gone. Maul using his fury would've made him a more competent killer. Which is all he was meant to be. Great video as always. Thanks.
Tbh I don't think Palpatine ever viewed Maul as a true Sith Lord. He was more of a Sith assassin, a weapon with a purpose but quickly cast aside once he's no longer of use.
Indeed, even if he survived on naboo, I fail too see how he would go beyond just being an assassin, count dooku was far more suitable as an apprentice, because of his character, title, and ability to unite thousands of star systems across the galaxy, maul would still be an assassin, and probably killed by dooku, or by anakin as a test later on
Palpatine view everyone lesser than him
Yeah, I wonder what Palpatine's original plan was, how he would have proceeded if Maul was victorious on Naboo.
I have a hard time imagining Maul becoming leader of the Separatists.
I agree Maul wouldn't be an ideal separatist leader, but to me, he a Sith Lord in cannon, while not in legends. Sidious has plans for him during and beyond the clone wars, we just don't know what they were. I would love to see the new Maul comics or some other comics to explore Sidious's plans for Maul. He most likely needed to change them after Maul's defeat, and saw Dooku as opportunity to proceed with a new one, most definitely an easier plan.
Thank you i love this! Most definaly Maul would have live up to his greatest potential under Bane's teachings especially with patience and channelling his aggression better.
Form 6 is kind of an odd one out. On the other hand it's been discarded many because of it's "jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none" status. Jedi master cin drallig told straight that it's not the form that is most worthy of study. However, some of the best swordsmen of the galaxy (like Exar Kun) have found the way to apply and be extremely successful with it. Also, considering that Jedi have tendecy of neglecting combat aspects of the force, something that form 6 is dependent it seems, it might just be that form 6 drawbacks are result of bad application of it rather than the form itself being weak.
I really enjoyed this. You should do one where what would happen if one master trained another. Ex(if bane trained sidious, or malgus trained Krayt, Andedu trained nihilus etc) you get the idea. I think those would be really interesting to hear as I still dont know a whole lot about legends outside of KotoR. There are so many channels who cover the new canon, which dont get me wrong, isn't a bad thing. I just really enjoy how much you talk about legends material also
I probably would’ve had maul use something similar to what kasim had, a saber staff that was really two separate lightsabers that can interlock to form a staff
If Maul was trained by Bane... He would have been the greatest Sith lord. Even more powerful than sidious.
My thoughts exactly.
Nah In Legends Mauls potential while high was not as upper compared to Sids, Plagueis, Dooku, Yoda, Mace, The Skywalkers, The Mereks, The Solos In Leias Line, Nor The Force Deities but it was higher then Obi Wans, Qui Gons, Shaak Tis, Yaddles, Aayla Securas, Quinlan Vos, Asajj Ventress, Plo Koon, Ki Adi Mundi, And every other character except the ones I listed above in old EU yeah.
Star Wars Reading Club Could You Do A What If Darth Bane Trained Pre Mustafar Darth Vader? (Legends) Video PLEASE!?
Now THIS is Podracing!
rednose20000 ..... yeaaaa Or Darth Bane like he said. Marka Ragnos? Not even slightly. How would you cut out Darth Bane, the Sith’ari, the man who created the entire “grand plan” to begin with. Who blueprinted the republic’s usurpation and the Jedi order’s destruction. Palpatine would have done nothing if Bane didn’t set everything up perfectly for him to do so. Nothing. Bane would have forged him into the strongest Sith to ever live, he already was to begin with at that point. Until he got injured
rednose20000 and so could Bane. Do you remember how powerful of a sorceress Zannah was? Literally able to pull tendrils of malevolent energy that were basically the energy of the Darkside itself? Something Ragnos could never hope to do. Where do you think she learned her abilities from?? There’s a REASON Darth Bane was the Sith’ari. A reason he’s the one that was able to destroy the order and build it back up stronger than ever.
rednose20000 I know exactly who I’m talking about. And Darth Bane “mastered skills” that Ragnos would know nothing about. Which he passed onto Zannah. Ragnos stands in literally no comparison to power of Darth Bane. Bane and Sidious were the strongest Sith of all, Other than a pre-suited Vader but I don’t count him because he lasted for about 2-3 days.
rednose20000 😆😆😆😆
You’re an Idiot. You’ve just proved it. Good job. You’ve proven how little you really know. No, it was not “proven in Plagueis” at ALL. Not even slightly. Darth Bane WAS able to chest death, he actually knew HOW, plaguies was not. Darth Bane, Andeddu, Vitiate, And technically Sidious are the only ones who actually knew how to chest death with essence transfer. Bane was able to show himself as a Darkside spirit just like Ragnos was, In canon made directly by Lucas and filoni at that, not some old comic written by Tom Veitch, the worst writer in Star Wars history and the same idiot that contradicted everything about Star Wars with dark empire. That’s why I said “technically” with Sidious. Because Dark Empire doesn’t exist. It never happened. Lucas said it himself. That it contradicts the entire ending of the saga , and that it does not take place in the actual Star Wars universe. Tom Veitch THEN goes on to blatantly contradict himself AGAIN, and horribly I might add, in those same comics you’re referring to, completely contradicting Naga Sadow’s entire story, about him being some lifeblood who “rebelled against Ajunta Pall and the original Dark Lords” lmao. He’s a complete idiot. Stop trying to use things that were put together worse than a monkey could do and contradicted every other word it even said as a “sOuRcE”......... Yea, Marka Ragnos was powerful af sure , but he was NOWHERE near the level of Darth Bane and Darth Sidious. Period. That cannot be argued.
He would have been like Cognus I think. Not a massive powerhouse, but a mix of assassin and operative. Perfect for the Rule of Two. Ominous appearance, but it wouldn't matter in a world of holograms (and we know Maul has ability with manipulating criminal factions). Also, Zannah is so criminally underrated. Massive chance for exploration, if they wanted to explore the Sith and a great female character.
I suspect sideous taught maul form 7 because it would be most useful for killing targets quickly which suits his role as an assassin.
A fascinating theory
I love Maul, I wish he'd been the apprentice for episodes 1-3. But at the same time, I love Dooku. Oh well. Great video!
What form of Lightsaber combat would Darth Bane teach Darth Maul instead of Form 7? All the other forms.
I like that scenario
Maul trained in single blade lightsaber combat before he built his double bladed lightsaber.
While I typically agree with your decisions on your videos, I must argue over this. As we know, Sidious was sincerely afraid of the Jedi and wanted to humiliate them as much as possible. We know this from dialogue as well as by the material from his lightsabers. So when he began training Maul, his apprentice was to be the the very embodiment of the dark side and everything that sith stand for. I believe Sidious trained Maul in the use of the saber staff for a couple reasons. One being that the weapon is especially effective against multiple enemies. This we witness in Phantom Menace. Another reason I believe the weapon was viable for the apprentice is that the saber staff is considered a sith weapon due to its history. Few Jedi knew how to properly attack and defend against such a weapon thereby creating a psychological factor. I also stand by the decision to train Maul in form VII. While some consider the form a weakness to the sith, many would consider it his greatest strength. Form VII is also considered the form of the sith by jedi and sith alike. This fact also contributes to Sidious making Maul the perfect sith lord. Maul was to be the exact opposite of everything the jedi are not.
I personally believe that Mauls greatest weakness was his shortsightedness and as well as him depending on his own physical limits instead of the force.
I get the feeling that the Sith is more likely to push Niman to its limits as the greatest practitioners of the form was mostly Sith. This seems to another thing the Jedis code and overall policy of Restraint and Moderation works against them they rarely, if ever, push their limits in either the Force or lightsaber-combat.
This could explain why Galen Marek could do things most thought to be impossible with the Force, there was nobody telling him it couldn't be done. Works on Old Republic Jedi and the Sith Masters of Old as well, they kept pushing themselves in ways the Post-Reformations Jedi did not.
Anyway it was a fun video and best of luck with the next one :-)
Well, from what I recall, while Revan was a master of all forms, his preferred form was Niman(combined with mind reading and manipulation of his opponent's subconscious thoughts in the middle of combat to lead them to make subconscious mistakes).
@@sancturillore :-)
If maul was trained by him, Maul would have been THE MASTER of lightsaber form 7
Well it doesn't help that at least in Legends. Maul created his double bladed lightsaber in a fit of anger. He basically go his ass kicked by an even snootier than usual jedi with a wooden staff. And she kicked his ass so hard that Maul said "i'm gonna make a staff out of lightsabers."
That's not Legends and not Canon the creators wanted more freedom so they didn't make it into Canon or Legends
@@darkwolf4434 I don't care. You're just picking a fight. Go away before I flag you for bullying.
@@aliastheabnormal I'm sorry I didn't want offend you I just wanted to tell you what is correct.
@@darkwolf4434 Why does any of this even matter?! Disney made everything non canon and replaced it moronic shit! Lightsabers are now TRON sticks and the Sith somehow pull them out of thin air for the past thousand years.
@@aliastheabnormal Moroic shit? Like the Vader comics? Kanan Jarrus comics? Do you even know anything about the new Canon? Please tell me what is shit in the new Canon. And also it seems that it is you who wants to pick up a fight.
With the way Form VI works, it seems a bit wrong to say that it supplements Ataru; it's rather that this incarnation of Maul would be a Niman duelist that specializes in and enhances the Form IV aspects of it. Exar Kun's technique, while officially confirmed to be Niman, borders on Juyo in its ferocity and chaotic nature, and I think the same line of thought could be applied to Maul: Niman edging closer to Ataru. He certainly wouldn't be as heavy on the acrobatics as for example Yoda, so that seems about right to me.
I also agree with your choice of weapon for Maul. Yeah, he's THE saberstaff wielder in everybody's mind thanks to TPM, but we have seen him without one in TCW all the time, so it's not like you have to adhere to that image. Form VI might be the go-to style for double-bladed lightsabers, but Ataru is probably ill-suited for it. I dare say the chances of Maul accidentally killing himself with his saberstaff would be higher if he tried to use it with Form IV. Given the styles you decided on for Maul, a single blade is the way to go.
Frankly, I preferred his use of the single blade in TPM. Those brief moments were just so ferocious.
I agree with saying that maul would be trained in form 4 and 6. Honestly, watching episode 1 that's actually what I got from that.. Especially after learning that maul was trained in hand to hand (a TK user) and form 4 uses physical attacks (unless you are Yoda)... One thing that you don't mention though... Both form 4 and 6 are pathways to dual wielding... So yes.. Maul wouldn't have his staff... But he would likely learn to swing two sabers... Maybe as just a backup...
All in all.. We'd end up with someone that would have all the choices at a drop of a hat.. Single blade, two sabers, force powers, leathal unarmed fighting..
Personally, I disagree with the notion that Maul shouldn't be trained in Juyo. Yes, it was most effective when drawing on one's emotions and required serious mental discipline, but THAT is exactly why Maul was so efficient with it. Maul's emotions tied into Juyo so perfectly, and of course he was highly disciplined. As for mastering Maul in Ataru and Soresu, Maul already has knowledge of these two forms. In Maul Lockdown, towards the end of the book, Maul used an Ataru strike. Furthermore, Maul is incredibly acrobatic and implements physical strikes into his lightsaber sequences whenever he gets the opportunity. I don't doubt Maul did in-fact master Ataru purely based off that. Yes, his hand-to-hand prowess was primarily from Teras Kasi and various other exotic and forbidden martial arts, but I would also argue that Ataru played some role in Maul's martial art mastery. As for Soresu, Maul used its ready stance when engaging Sidious, and has also never had his defense broken by any opponent in Lightsaber combat, other than Lord Sidious. From that we can conclude that Maul was quite proficient with the Form, but no master of it. On top of all that, Maul was an absolute master of Niman, which was an amalgamation of the previous five Forms, including Soresu and Ataru.
Well to be a true master of Juyo, to be highly disciplined is a must for any Juyo master
@@DeathScepter Which is precisely why I believe Maul is perfectly suited to the Form, he is incredibly adept and disciplined, both physically and mentally. I think the best showing of this was Maul Lockdown.
You are right. Highly Self Disciplined is a trait that required or should be a requirement to even be considered to study Juyo. A common trait between Jedi and Sith is Self Discipline in order to truly master their teachings. One of the reasons that Jedi restricted Juyo to Jedi Masters due to that Jedi Masters are known for their Highly Self Disciplined Nature. True that the Sith relish in their darker emotions including Rage, Selfishness and Hate but understanding how to use those emotions is a part of Sith Teachings. Many Jedi and Sith die due to a lack of self control and self discipline.
What about Dual Wield? I feel like Maul, had he focused more on dual wield, would have excelled beyond the norm as a combatant.
There are downsides to Dual Wield similar to double-blade. It's good in groups, but against a master of single saber combat with knowledge of the weakness of Dual Wield, then you get something similar to Episode 2 when Anakin went against Dooku. Or say how Obi-Wan could hold off Grievous. If he mastered Niman it would be good to be highly proficient in Dual Wield though, but against a serious single threat that uses a Lightsaber it be best to go single. Depending on his Force development having one free hand when not doing to handed saber strikes can allow him more mobility with acrobatics, easier use of sith sorcery, and possibly stunning or winded a dangerous opponent with a well placed punch. If Mall mastered Tutaminis, then he could also use said open hand to even catch a Lightsaber strike which would make most opponents shocked long enough to be sliced up by his blade.
If not for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
For the greatest Niman practioner ever.
Star wars Reading Club: "In this video expose"
Me: *soaked*
Would you do a video on Jerec and his Dark Jedi? Each had very unique styles, abilities and personalities that I think would warrant an analysis.
It's a lost conception, Bane favored force powers and "discreet" engagement against the Jedi, Mawl is the complete opposite of that philosophy, and is the one who broke the "masquerade" of the disappearance of the siths. I see no reason Bane would have considered or taken Mawl as an apprentice, and therefore further ponder and "polish him" in a different fashion than Sidious did.
Don't forget maul had experience in the other 6 forms
there is a quote from bane in the novels in which he disagrees woth the jedi philosophy of teaching multiple forms. something about learn the form that suits you and use that. pretty sure it was in the final book
Interesting theory.
Ah finally, a What If. Thanks for the video Reading Club! Now I may not have the Bane book yet (I've heard a lot of awesome things about it), but it's an enjoyment to watch this video in detail. I think this is why Darth Bane was always a better Sith than Palpatine in the first place.
Will you continue to do What If's? You should.
P.S The green Twi'Lek was right actually, I even myself tested a practiced Saberstaff and it turns out, it's so limited. My Sith master would be Exar Kun or even Darth Plagueis, but in a Sith Holocron.
I love videos on lightsaber combat
How poweful was Abeloth in Star Wars Legends when compared to other extremely powerful Jedi and Sith like Palpatine, Vitiate, Revan, and Luke?
In theory more powerful than any single one of them, except for maybe vitiate
You seem to be going of the Book of the Sith and not the Bane Trilogy. You over simplified why Zannah used a double bladed saber. She did but it was a much shorter version then normal, shortening the the blade travel. Focusing on defense so she could use Sith sorcery, which was her primary discipline. Witch Bane considered the truest from of darkside power and more suited to her because of her physical size. Then if you go back to the Darth Plagueis book, Maul was never a Sith. He was a puppet that was only trained as an assassin, most secrets of the darkside were kept from him. That's the my main point, Bane would have trained Maul without keeping anything from him! Under Bane he would have been a Sith, not a tool. So I don't see how just what form he used under Sidious matters, his training would have been completely different from day one under Bane!
I'd still be awesome.
Did Anakin use ‘form 7’ fighting Obi-wan, completely losing himself in anger, choking his wife and ultimately overestimating his powers when ObiWan chopped his leg off?
Excellent bloody job ya Chiss
Darth Maul would be scary as shit if Bane taught him. Imagine Darth Maul with better defense and more force abilitys ya he would invincible.
Either way, Maul is very scary and nightmare fuel.
I heard Bane was strict but not cruel to his apprentice Zannah.
Could you do a what if Kenobi died in the middle of the clone wars and what if yoda died on Kashyyk?
I've never seen maul use any force attacks so are you sure form 5 shin, wouldn't be better for him even if 6 is more versatile.
That explains why Sith Assassin has tanking spec in Star Wars Old Republic . . .
Imagine Maul raging from Orbalisks.
Bane should resurrect like momin did and give sidious a tongue lashing of how much of a fool he was making maul just a mere assassin wasting his potential and insult both sidious and his master for destroying his legacy
I feel like if Bane had been alive at the time of the Jedi purge things would go a whole lot differently.
Maul wasn’t a sith assasin he was true Sith Lord and heir to the banite rule of 2 their are multiple canon statements that say he had potential to surpass Sidious and even by TCW when he was out of practice and didn’t have double bladed lightsaber him and savage put up a great fight agaisnt Sidious
Sidious: *''And my apprentices? Darth Maul was a loss. But Darth Tyranus... He was a proton torpedo.''*
Source: Darth Vader #20 - End of Games, Part I (2016)
For what you totally said at the end but I can’t spell!
that's why I would have ventress's ability and turn 2 weapons to 1 so in a fight I can start with one if a stale mate bring out the second and combined just to try and throw them off
Star Wars Reading club could you do a what if sidious thought of Darth tyranus as a true apprentice (and not someone to hold the place until hè could train Anakin to be his apprentice) i think it would be interesting but not very likely
mo maj yes please do that I bet dooku would be a raw powerhouse
That would make Sidious an idiot. Dooku was an old man. No matter his power, he didn't have that much time left in his life. A Sith needs a successor that can last a while.
Diana Barnett sidious knew dooku was yoda best student so if sidious would had taught him a lot about the darth side it would have been double trouble for sidious
Diana Barnett yeah i know it would have been a dumbass decision that is Why i Said it wouldn’t be very likely that it was ever going to be the case but what i am talking about is that it would be an interesting scenerio if it did happen
I'd rather have Maul be trained by Sidius. Maul wouldn't be Maul I know and love how you say bane would change Maul.
If Darth Bane trained Darth Maul. The Maul would have been long dead before the events of Episode 1 lol. No, amount of the Force could prolong a life that long.....yes I know. I will be proved me wrong.
A great warrior, if he had had Bane as master he would be a perfect Sith.
So he would have learned Force Lightning as well?
Darth maul was a niman practioner but favored juyo. He used niman to do a tactical retreat to seperate obi wan and qui gon, when dueling obi wan he used niman to push obi wan into the 'garbage shaft'.
Djem So is like Dragon-style Kung-Fu in that it is best suited to practicioners who are large and powerful.
I don't know that Sidious cared about Maul. Any more than a Technician cares about his tools. And sometimes tools break.
Fact that Mauls foundation forms for Juyo were Ataru and Niman.
You should do one on what if revan trained Anakin
If Juyo was an enemy to Maul then he must know his enemy as well as to know himself.Maul was trained as a tool,assassin.
Essentially this video compares different PURPOSES Maul would have been trained for. If Bane trained Maul, he'd have trained him as a proper apprentice in both lightsaber combat and in knowledge of the force. And eventually Maul would have grown strong enough to defeat Darth Bane and continue the Rule of Two with his own apprentice. All that is well and good, but Palpatine trained Maul as more of a Sith Assassin and didn't train him that much in Force because he wanted to keep Darth Plagueis off his back. Choice of the arguably more limited lightsaber staff was a clear indication of this. Maul was never meant to be strong enough to continue in the world of the Rule of Two, given that Palpatine believed in the Rule of One. Palpatine planned getting his hands on Anakin Skywalker so Maul, for all the training, was always meant to be discarded/done away with later on. Too bad Maul held a grudge against Obi-Wan and decided to kill him, but then, all his Sith life he was trained and indoctrinated to only see the immediate and for a few steps forward. And during his time after his first defeat to Obi-Wan he never learnt to really pick his alliances with a cool head.
How much stronger do u think he would have been if ban train him?
Hey Starwarsreadingclub this awesome video first wanted say I completely agree that Maul be a Atura specialist after all if pay attention both in Canon and Legend in all his fight he use speed and agility, physical strike in combat all scream Atura if ask me and second when talking about defense elements I swear going say Soresu after must defensive form of all lightsaber combat and both Darth Bane and his apprentice use form so thought hyper dyes phone form Atura and Soresu would be were going then say Niman then remember that what Bane say about Sith force in combat and Niman have decent defense elements but also give Maul force attack elements as you say Bane his apprentice are master at it so completely agree choice lightsaber form but do have questions on his lightsaber don't think be trained double bladed lightsaber but do think wouldn't be single bladed lightsaber so want know if you think Maul trained in Two Lightsaber like the Sith Marauder in Swtor ask because Maul use this style against Darth Sidious in Star Wars Clone Wars tv show and Atura and Niman are exact forms that trained wielding two bladed so I just hear your opinion because to me sounds like is Maul to have this style lightsaber combat but let know what you think
I see Exar Kun, I upvote.
How would Bane train Githany if she escaped the Thought Bomb, if he even would in the first place?
Do what if darth bane trained ventress, Dooku, or Anakin
how would mauls personality be diffrent in darth plagius novel he made maul very prideful but i figured that was also part of the dathomirian race
What if Dooku was trained by Darth Plagueis?
What if Mace windu trained ventress
Zabraks have more stamina than a human...?
How would Maul be different if Bane had trained him as a true apprentice
Where can I read about Star Wars lore??
What if Valkorion trained Sidious
They are pretty incompatible but a young Palpatine trained by Valkorion would change everything. Palpatine only killed Plagueis because he taught him all he knew. Valkorion has more than 2000 years of Sith knowledge , the possibilities are endless.
Obviously sith lords wont approve of each others choices and approach things a different way and hate other paths but their own
Shit talking other Sith Lords and their methods is a time-honored tradition of the Sith.
What if dooku trained anakin
Oh boy, I Would Have,But knowledge is Power, Sorry 😎 !!!.
Ya but if maul doesn't have a double blade he's just not the same
Krayt beats kun as a niman wizard
The Star Wars Legends was better being in Canon till Disney split in two of the Star wars Legends characters.
What if Darth Vader trained Anakin.
Would make no diference.
What if Disney didn't ruin star wars?
What if you just could just shut up.
@@darkwolf4434 cry more
@@Verteidiger99 It seems that it is the one that wrote that first comment that is crying saying Star Wars was ruined because of 1 MOVIE that was released 1 YEAR ago, like seriously why do you people even still care???
And also this wasn't even a video about the new Canon.
@@Verteidiger99 Also I cried last time when I was ten and landed on a nail.
Clash Gamer who you telling shut too???
You made the wrong video. What if Bane trained Darth Vader (or Anakin.)
Darth Bane would have simply destroyed Maul. He would have recognized that Maul just didn't have what it would take to become a true master of the sith and as a result he would destroy him and find a more worthy student.
Maul was still a high talent that is useful with physical abilities and unarmed combat few past, present, and future surpass Maul in those columns even if Maul is not the highest or near the highest force user or lightsaber duelist his physicalities and hand to hand fighting styles make up for it against most opponents yeah.
Why the rule of two was created sith cant agree and worked together for anything hell they are still killing each other with only 2 they are never going to give anybody props
He mispronounced the name for form six
The double-bladed lightsaber is overrated, anyway.
You saying "shin" instead of "shien" makes my ears want to bleed.