That is a beautiful rifle and looked like great fun to experiment with. My Great-Grandad was shot with a German Mauser in 1916, the bullet went through his front teeth, down through his tongue and throat, into the back of his neck and was extracted from his right shoulder! He was a tough old bloke, he didn't pop his clogs until 1970!
Watchin old gun gripes this morning and I'm glad they're all still available. I staggered across your channel a couple years back and you guys do awesome work. RIP Barry I loved his view on life. The episode about a town in Idaho were they all gathered on Wednesday and watched. Its awesome.
Back in the 1960 - 63 period I built three 6.5 x 55's. One on a Win Mdl 70, Rem 700 'n' a Savage 110 with some old 6.5 bull barrels the family had laying around. My uncles told me I was crazy using 26" barrels for a deer rifle in the Vermont woods. Each of the rifles harvested deer and bear before I went to South Vietnam.
I live in New Hampshire and we really live in an area where terrain is quite different than other places. In one area you could be walking along on nothing but rock ledge, and 100 yards later be flat and thin as can be, then another 100 yards it could change and be crazy thick and very rough country. Depends on where your gonna be and if you know the terrain. My personal opinion, for our neck of the woods anyway either the remington 788 in 30-30 or the savage 340 30-30 bolt guns are the best options ESSPECIALLY if you hand load.
This rifle exposed me to the 6.5x55 cartridge, and made me fall in love with it. So much so, that I bought a new CZ 557 carbine chambered for 6.5x55, and it has become my favorite bolt action rifle.
The last time I took my m96 out, I had a perfect head shot on a coyote at 200 yards using Norma soft-tips. I love this gun! I bought mine a little over 20 years ago in a gun store for $79.95!
Love that 6.5 Swede cartridge!! And what a fine rifle to shoot. That cartridge has taken so many game animals from all over the world. Very fine performance and minimal recoil. Thanks for sharing!!
I love it when you guys feature the Swedes! My m96 is my favorite mil-surp. If Chad is really wanting a modern rifle chambered in 6.5x55 there are several options, but I opted for a Howa barreled action bedded in a Boyd's stock. I built 2 identical hunting rifles (one for me, one for my wife) and they are both sub 1/2 MOA with my hand loads.
I really love your channel, I know very little about guns, but because of your channel I have learned a lot about safety and respect for guns. I do so enjoy watching you fire different guns. I have never fired one before. Thanks for all of your awesome videos.
You had me at "Swedish" , and I too would love to see a Ljungman at the range. Nice of you too show you guys shooting the gun from scratch at the furthest target, can not be easy hitting a target at 600m with a WW1/WW2 rifle. Keep up the good work!
The swedes know how to treat wood and metal to full effect!, if you look at most custom knives from swedish makers, they're works of art. May all at iv8888 have a great new year ( and all the subscribed readers!!). All the best, from cold damp norfolk(u.k)!!
I had one of these many years ago, I have kicked myself many times for selling it. I bought it at a gun show for $75.00 and it was very accurate. These rifles are finely crafted and beautiful. Looking forward to another video with this gun. Thanks for this video.
Youre probably having so many issues with elevation because the sights on the swedish mausers are made for the heavier round nosed bullets they started using in 1894. When they (finally) switched to a 142/3gr spitzer in 1941, they never made new sights for the standard rifles - instead, they would rivet a range plate into the stock (usually next to the brass disk) that shows you how high/low to aim to account for the new cartridge.
Many of the older rifes did have their sights re-calibrated for the spitzer, there is a mark (its an F or an N from memory) that denote recalibrated for spitzer.That being said the load/pill they ran is not something available of the shelf afaik so you are always going to have to use some ammount of hold over/under and Kentucky windage! I love my Swedes, I have 2, but the sights re the worst ive come across! Stupidly long range zero, I think my m96 shoots about 400m on its lowest setting with modern pills and loads, essentially useless! Ive got a brownells peep on it these days, i can zero at whatever i like ad get a much better sight picture.I have a later short rifle thats not as bad, but still not very usable! I much preffer the sights on my no1mk3!
@@dunxy The Enfield sights are probably the most user friendly iron sights on any military rifle ever. The M16 uses basically the same setup, minus the long range flip up ladder of course.
I have to admit, I enjoy your long range shooting videos. Not so much the newer rifles, but the older rifles like the M96. Just to see what the old work horses can do.
Seriously looking forward to seeing the Swedish Mauser back out at the 600y range. You need to. You guys can shoot, and the Swedish Mausers are so much more accurate than this video shows. I'm a huge fan. I have many Swedish Mausers. Right from a 1900 Oberndorf FSR96, 1900 Carl Gustaf M96, M41b only with iron sights, 1943 Husqvarna M96, 1943 Husqvarna M38, Absolutely mint 1968 CG63, and a Swedish built custom hunting rifle built on a 1915 Carl Gustaf M96. Big thumbs up on the 600y range shoots.
Dang it!! I'm a very steady viewer and subscriber. This video did not show up in my subscription feed.. Others did. Happy Healthy 2018!! I love the longer range videos.
I love my Swedish 96 I picked it up this summer off of GunBroker what a sweet deal. Really enjoy your videos and all your knowledge appreciate what you guys do for the gun community keep it up thank you very much!!
Hey guys awsome video. I have shot swedes for many years. With your elevation issue. What I have done is silver sodder a small piece of a coat hanger to front sight. Works well.
Hello. I have an M96 from 1913 Gustav...I noticed at 200 yards I was holding WAY under the bullseye - maybe 10-12 inches AT LEAST - obviously the sight only go down to 300 meters...but I was amazed how low I needed to hold. Luckily I had a buddy spotting for me and after about 5 shots I had POA figured and was placing shots (almost all of them - 30ish) within roughly a 10in circle. I have a few questions for you: 1. How many shots is too many, shooting every 30 seconds, as the barrel was getting pretty hot. 2. What few rounds does yours like? I was shooting SB 131 & 140 grain and PPU 139gr & 120gr...thoughts?
I've got a modern Browning A-bolt in 6,5*55 mm and it shoots like a dream. Great long range cartridge especially firing the Norma Diamondline 130gr bullet. Of course I have my CG63 also in the same calibre, the peak of Swedish Mauser target technology during the 1960:s built on the m/96.
Glad to see the Sweds getting some love. I'm alsonglad to see you guys having similar issues as well. I've been trying to sight in my M94 Carbine and can seem to see where I'm hitting. I have a scout scope base that mounts on the rear sight base and a Vortex Crossfire 2 scout.
I have a M96 made in 1918. I made a new front post to fit the dovetail that is approximately 1/10" higher than the original. Mine originally shot 6" high at 200 yards on the 200m setting. The additional height brought it right down.
i reload my 6.5x55 with 53gr vhit and 155 HPBT hitting 0.5inch groups at 200metres. it is a amazing round, I don't know why it isn't shot more than what it already is. In my humble opinion it could replace the 5.56 nato round
I doubt its going to replace 556 anytime soon! Will it run in a ar platform? I suspect not! 6.5 creedmore on the other hand does! Also has less recoil and superior ballistics, this (along with 224 valkyrie) is a possibility, all be it a very slim one!
I would love to see y'alls do some more complete gun assembleys like the practical ar series. Maybe a battle rifle setup or dmr? A bolt gun? I love the channel! Keep the awesome content coming!
This is by far my favourite millsurp bolt action, I've heard storys of this rife shooting 1-3 moa witch is almost unheard of with most milsurp rifles. I want one pretty bad lol
i find my M96 produces heat-induced mirage over the front post quicker than the K98K and other old-school rifles (Lee-Enfield, K31, Mosin etc). Not sure if this is due to the barrel heating up faster (more surface contact area of that long slim projectile) or just the front post design
Great video, thanks! You guys are awesome, and I love what you do. These Swedish mausers are gorgeous, and I'd love to get me one. Keep up the great work!
"In my mind if you can shoot this gun, you can shoot anything." I apply that more to learning the quirks of a mid-war mosin with 30 year-old surplus and then also knowing how it corrects once the barrel heats up. =) M39 on the other hand.... whatever you feed it, it puts in the ring.
A dial elevation adjustment(Vesteras spelling may not be correct) insert takes all the "fun" out sight adjustment on the M96 while not permenantly altering it. The dial was the right choice for me using my 1921 in vintage service rifle matches. My favorite rifle in my collection is a CG 80 with a Shultz and Larsen barrel and a Danish Konesburg two stage match trigger. Thanks for the Video , 6.5x55 is the original 6.5 "cool" and my favorite.
A friend of mine was/is a hardcore air rifle shooter, when somebody told him to try his luck with a fire arm. So he bought a mint condition M96 for €250,- and learned to hand load accurate ammo. After a year, a friend signed him in for a 300, 500 and 600 yard Bisley style match. He was shocked (he only shot 100 meters), but learned the bullet drop and working with the sights. He won the 500 and 600 meters that day... Keep in mind that Bisley style is only 12 shots per distance and the best 10 counts. Here in Holland, all rifles that are not 5,56 mm are competing in the 'Veteran' class. The only rifles that are capable of winning these matches are the K31, 1903A3 and the M96. Oh, and occasionally an old Dutch AR10.
Swedes are amazing rifles. I had several in the past... one was a magnificent 96 - all matching and just beautiful wood excellent condition. Alas, I let them get away. But.... I just found a 96/38 on gunbroker of all places = most all matching serials, and for $550 so I ordered it. Everything looks really good in the pics/description so hoping for a good one. It has the original sights, not updated to the spitzer round but I handload, so I can just load up milspec 160 grain loads which should match up to the sights. Looks like it's either S&B factory 131 grain loads or handload. You can probably find other factory loads but the prices are nuts... thanks for the vid! I enjoyed it.
Me tooooo! NOW I have an itchy finger! the brick soaks up the recoil and mil surp ammo is flat, Fast! goes where it's told! I LOVE the sights. Mine almost Always catches a ride in my truck when we go out shooting! Young shooters and girls tend to do really well with my old lady. Great gun I use to transition new shooters from 22 to a real BANG!
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I would recommend a 130gr bullet HPBT and Hogdon 4831 or Accurate 3100 for powder. I would start at ~46gr powder load and work myself up.
The Swedish home guard later used a rear diopter peep sight made by Söderin or Pramm on the M96 rifles which is why they're usually allowed in most military surplus rifle competitions. The Söderin diopter is adjustable to 600m. They significantly improve the shootability and adjustability especially for longer range and sporting applications. I think hitting that gong at 600 yards with the diopter would have been a breeze with that diopter in the rifle. The inherent accuracy is most certainly there. Some people shoot these rifles at 1000 yards.
I’ve got an m96 with diopter sights and I cannot express how fantastic it is to shoot, the gun is kinda beat up, the diopters have been banged around and completely marred up. It has a kinda dark and kinda crusty bore, the first time I shot it I went and did 5/5 on the 200 yard gong, 5/5 on the 300, 4/5 on the 400 and then 3/5 on the 500 first shots shooting it and I was just nailing the 500 yard gong all day after that
Addleyprecision makes a smith-less picatinny rail scope mount that works well and there is no alteration to the rifle, I put one on my 1924 Swedish M96 and it works well and holds zero. I bought a turned down bolt for the rifle and kept the original bolt. Incredible shooter and the gun maintains its originality
6,5x55 is the most used target load allso in Norway, both in standard rifle competition 200 and 300 meters. We used to use the Krag jørgensen in 6,5x55..
I presently own a m96 manufactured in 1899 and has the original disk, all original. I previously owned a model 33/55 and it was all original except for the front sight. Someone had done away with with the military blade and replaced it with a more modern at some point. Was easier to hit small targets at 200 and 300 yards.
I have a model 96 with 6.5x55. its considered as a Nato round. they are extremely powerful very accurate and not much recoil. I absolutely love this rifle. great gun to hunt with.
In Holland, most 100 meter ranges are indoor and so are the service rifle matches shot at 100 meters. Because standard loads heat up the barrel very fast, and mirage blocks the sight view, serious competition shooters download their ammo. They use 20 grains of faster burning powder. M96's are know to win almost every veteran rifle class match. Together with the 1903A3. For military rifle class, you need an AR15 or SIG Stg90 to win a match.
You should check out an Australian channel called mark and Sam after work if your into long range stuff, shoots stuff like 375 cheytac, 338 lap, 375 Gibbs out to 4000+ yard. Awesome channel. And pulls off standing 1000 yard shots with 357mag in a marlin for fun, similar videos to this, just takes you through the process with them and not just cut scenes of all the hits. Love your channel, cheers from Australia
Have two M38, one milspec, one fully sported. The sight issue with your M96 is two fold. 1) sights are regulated for the RN 162 grain ball load. When Sweden adopted tge 142 grain spitzer they did not correct the sights but pasted a correction table to the stock. Hope you can read Swedish. 2) the twist rate in the barrel is optimized for the longer and heavier bullet. Shooting 140 gr bullets as I think you are results in a very slightly unstable projectile in flight. Not really an issue inside 300 yards, but more significant at range. The M94/M96/M38 will not shoot the lighter 6.5 bullets popular in the 6.5 creedmore because of the twist issue. The 123 grain varmint bullets keyhole from mine at 50 yards. Go to a 160 grain bullet like a match king and you will drill a hole in your gong.
Likely the reason you're off is that it's set at a certain range with the front sight you have, for the M41 spitzer ammo, while the range settings on the backsite are unchanged and set for the 156 grain roundnosed ball that was issued before. There's range conversion stickers with holdover/under for the varying ranges that were issued to troops and stuck upside to the stock to help them dope the ranges. You are shooting closer to M41 spec ammo, not accountign for the differing trajectory/unmatched front site height and using the original range settings---
My two favorite "high power" rifle cartridges are 6.5mm Swede, and .270 Winchester. Never shot 6.5mm Creedmoor, yet. The only reason I want a "Creedy" is ammo availability vs. 6.5mm Swede.
I also have a m96 from 1906 my favorite gun ever, and I can agree that they are king of the Mausers, and I would also say easily all the military surplus guns.
You need one of those swedish diopter sights they made several that were used by the swedish target shooters. Absolutely beautiful rifle definitely my favorite Mauser. Thanks
own a fal stg58 h&k mr308 a3 20'' Remington r5 mill spec cz 858 tactical and dan Wesson 375 mag revolver 5 gun max up to 8mm mauser rifle cal 100 meter indoor shooting
Love my Swede . It's a 96 Gustav . It's been "sporterized" with a ramline stock and a lil bolt work. To this day probably my most accurate rifle at range . Best part you can shoot it all day with no strawberries.
Very common Rifle here in Australia, there are 4 Gun shops in my town and each of them have at least 3 on the shelves. In the '80s there was a company doing "sporter" versions here, They put them in a reasonable stock, removed the iron sights, drilled and tapped them and mounted a 4x32 Nikko Stirling 'scope on them and sold them for about $200. You can also get Timney triggers and low swing safeties for them. Barnes are doing some fantastic projectiles in this calibre now, and they are a piece of cake to reload. My cousin and i have competitions with each other shooting bunnys with them, He's winning at the moment with a hit at 666 measured Meters! (The Devils shot :-) ) P.S. Don't let anyone tell you the receivers are made of "soft metal", they are as good as, and some times better than many Rifles made at that time.
Thanks for the great review. Have a CZ 557 6.5x55 and it is a great shooter. Absolutely love military surplus. IMHO barrel length, although providing more accuracy, many Mausers near 30" painful to tote around the Montana backcountry.
I have one that I'm in the process of unBubba-ing. Had to order replacement metal and barrel cover on the front. The receiver ring and bridge are drilled and tapped which is ok as I'll be scoping it eventually. If the disc is correct, the barrel is near new.
I love watching the milsurps thanks Eric and Chad , have a happy and safe New Years , wouldnt putting a wind sock down range make it easier for the shooter also
This (in my opinion) is one of the greatest cartridges ever developed. It's been around since 1894 and is more than capable of taking any game on the planet with the exception of maybe a few on the dark continent and even then may perhaps be up to the task with proper bullet selection and shot placement.
Guys... guys... think about it a moment. You don't have to physically alter your sights, you don't need a specific load. There are two simple ways that you can have a nice 6 o'clock hold on that 550 yard/meter (whatever) gong and hit it consistently. On the battlefield, the enemy does not place themselves at 100 meter intervals for the convenience of your sight settings - they are at random distances and the Swedish (German, Russian, etc.) military knew this. Just think about it for a moment and you'll see how to use your unmodified m/96B with the ammo you've got and also be able to have a 6 o'clock hold on the gong. No need to aim way low in the grass or anywhere else.
Greatings from Sweden! Love your videos. From my own experiace PPU ball ammo isn´t usually very accurate at that range. That´s probably a big part of the problem.
I really like the 6.5x55 sm. I have one in a Sako 85 hunting rifle. And I'm using handloads with Hornady ELD-X 143gr and man I'm telling you it's a real tackdriver. :)
Mil Surp is 147 grain and fast Fast FAST! Flat flat FLAT! so heavy it soaks up the recoil. if you can see it, you can hit it! I like the sights too. Got mine in the early 90's for $100 iit's the partisan ammo. My 40's and 50's mil surp swedish goes crazy good.
That is a beautiful rifle and looked like great fun to experiment with. My Great-Grandad was shot with a German Mauser in 1916, the bullet went through his front teeth, down through his tongue and throat, into the back of his neck and was extracted from his right shoulder! He was a tough old bloke, he didn't pop his clogs until 1970!
Wow. And he was able to speak and eat still? That's one tough grandpa.
Something about your accent and how happy you are doing this is just heartwarming, im not even into guns and I enjoy watching this
Watchin old gun gripes this morning and I'm glad they're all still available. I staggered across your channel a couple years back and you guys do awesome work. RIP Barry I loved his view on life. The episode about a town in Idaho were they all gathered on Wednesday and watched. Its awesome.
Back in the 1960 - 63 period I built three 6.5 x 55's. One on a Win Mdl 70, Rem 700 'n' a Savage 110 with some old 6.5 bull barrels the family had laying around. My uncles told me I was crazy using 26" barrels for a deer rifle in the Vermont woods. Each of the rifles harvested deer and bear before I went to South Vietnam.
I live in New Hampshire and we really live in an area where terrain is quite different than other places. In one area you could be walking along on nothing but rock ledge, and 100 yards later be flat and thin as can be, then another 100 yards it could change and be crazy thick and very rough country. Depends on where your gonna be and if you know the terrain. My personal opinion, for our neck of the woods anyway either the remington 788 in 30-30 or the savage 340 30-30 bolt guns are the best options ESSPECIALLY if you hand load.
The old timers at the legion in fair haven always said the 6.5 Swede was the only thing to use when it came to hunting bigger game
This rifle exposed me to the 6.5x55 cartridge, and made me fall in love with it. So much so, that I bought a new CZ 557 carbine chambered for 6.5x55, and it has become my favorite bolt action rifle.
The last time I took my m96 out, I had a perfect head shot on a coyote at 200 yards using Norma soft-tips. I love this gun! I bought mine a little over 20 years ago in a gun store for $79.95!
I have a gunsafe full of M96’s… all matching numbers… one has the extremely rare original “pickle peeler” folding bayonet.
Love that 6.5 Swede cartridge!! And what a fine rifle to shoot. That cartridge has taken so many game animals from all over the world. Very fine performance and minimal recoil. Thanks for sharing!!
I love it when you guys feature the Swedes! My m96 is my favorite mil-surp. If Chad is really wanting a modern rifle chambered in 6.5x55 there are several options, but I opted for a Howa barreled action bedded in a Boyd's stock. I built 2 identical hunting rifles (one for me, one for my wife) and they are both sub 1/2 MOA with my hand loads.
Justin Treon I agree would love to own hope to in future! It’s awesome and beautiful
I really love your channel, I know very little about guns, but because of your channel I have learned a lot about safety and respect for guns. I do so enjoy watching you fire different guns. I have never fired one before. Thanks for all of your awesome videos.
You had me at "Swedish" , and I too would love to see a Ljungman at the range. Nice of you too show you guys shooting the gun from scratch at the furthest target, can not be easy hitting a target at 600m with a WW1/WW2 rifle. Keep up the good work!
Out of all the many gun gurus on TH-cam. Iraqveteran8888 and his crew are at the top of the heap. 👍👍
The swedes know how to treat wood and metal to full effect!, if you look at most custom knives from swedish makers, they're works of art. May all at iv8888 have a great new year ( and all the subscribed readers!!). All the best, from cold damp norfolk(u.k)!!
I have one from 1902 and it still looks like it was made a year ago. So refined and accurate.
I had one of these many years ago, I have kicked myself many times for selling it. I bought it at a gun show for $75.00 and it was very accurate. These rifles are finely crafted and beautiful. Looking forward to another video with this gun. Thanks for this video.
Got to love the old Swede! Over 100 years old and still a very accurate gun! I love mine :-)
Have a great new years guys!
Cheers, ASC!
Old world craftmanship using the finest tool steel , a beautiful rifle that is supremely accurate. I just love my 1911 Carl Gustav.
Youre probably having so many issues with elevation because the sights on the swedish mausers are made for the heavier round nosed bullets they started using in 1894. When they (finally) switched to a 142/3gr spitzer in 1941, they never made new sights for the standard rifles - instead, they would rivet a range plate into the stock (usually next to the brass disk) that shows you how high/low to aim to account for the new cartridge.
Many of the older rifes did have their sights re-calibrated for the spitzer, there is a mark (its an F or an N from memory) that denote recalibrated for spitzer.That being said the load/pill they ran is not something available of the shelf afaik so you are always going to have to use some ammount of hold over/under and Kentucky windage! I love my Swedes, I have 2, but the sights re the worst ive come across! Stupidly long range zero, I think my m96 shoots about 400m on its lowest setting with modern pills and loads, essentially useless! Ive got a brownells peep on it these days, i can zero at whatever i like ad get a much better sight picture.I have a later short rifle thats not as bad, but still not very usable! I much preffer the sights on my no1mk3!
Most m96 mauser had their sights refitted in the 1950s my shoots on point and it was made 1917
@@dunxy The Enfield sights are probably the most user friendly iron sights on any military rifle ever. The M16 uses basically the same setup, minus the long range flip up ladder of course.
The Mil Surp videos are the best. Learning and having a nice challenge at the range is what makes it fun!! Great videos
I have to admit, I enjoy your long range shooting videos. Not so much the newer rifles, but the older rifles like the M96. Just to see what the old work horses can do.
I LOVE my Swedish Mauser. Its by far the most consistent shooting rifle I've ever owned. Date stamp on my Gustav is 1919.
I Just picked up a 1903 year Swedish M96 yesterday!! haven't shot it yet but I can't wait!! Just need all this snow to go away up in Canada :)
Seriously looking forward to seeing the Swedish Mauser back out at the 600y range. You need to. You guys can shoot, and the Swedish Mausers are so much more accurate than this video shows. I'm a huge fan. I have many Swedish Mausers. Right from a 1900 Oberndorf FSR96, 1900 Carl Gustaf M96, M41b only with iron sights, 1943 Husqvarna M96, 1943 Husqvarna M38, Absolutely mint 1968 CG63, and a Swedish built custom hunting rifle built on a 1915 Carl Gustaf M96. Big thumbs up on the 600y range shoots.
A Happy and Prosperous 2018 from England. I used to have a 1901M96 and always regret selling it!
Yesssssss! I have a 1899 M96 Sniper (M41) with the orginal scope mount. I put an Vintage Weaver K 2.5 scope on it! I love the 6.5... great round!
Timothy Smith that’s sounds like a sweet rifle I love that rifle in the video hope to own one someday!
Dang it!! I'm a very steady viewer and subscriber. This video did not show up in my subscription feed.. Others did. Happy Healthy 2018!! I love the longer range videos.
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Can we just take a moment and appreciate the quality and accuracy of this 100 years old rifle 👍🏻
I love my Swedish 96 I picked it up this summer off of GunBroker what a sweet deal. Really enjoy your videos and all your knowledge appreciate what you guys do for the gun community keep it up thank you very much!!
Hey guys awsome video. I have shot swedes for many years. With your elevation issue. What I have done is silver sodder a small piece of a coat hanger to front sight. Works well.
Hello. I have an M96 from 1913 Gustav...I noticed at 200 yards I was holding WAY under the bullseye - maybe 10-12 inches AT LEAST - obviously the sight only go down to 300 meters...but I was amazed how low I needed to hold. Luckily I had a buddy spotting for me and after about 5 shots I had POA figured and was placing shots (almost all of them - 30ish) within roughly a 10in circle. I have a few questions for you:
1. How many shots is too many, shooting every 30 seconds, as the barrel was getting pretty hot.
2. What few rounds does yours like? I was shooting SB 131 & 140 grain and PPU 139gr & 120gr...thoughts?
I LOVE these 600 yard videos! Looks like a fun time.
I've got a modern Browning A-bolt in 6,5*55 mm and it shoots like a dream. Great long range cartridge especially firing the Norma Diamondline 130gr bullet.
Of course I have my CG63 also in the same calibre, the peak of Swedish Mauser target technology during the 1960:s built on the m/96.
Glad to see the Sweds getting some love. I'm alsonglad to see you guys having similar issues as well. I've been trying to sight in my M94 Carbine and can seem to see where I'm hitting. I have a scout scope base that mounts on the rear sight base and a Vortex Crossfire 2 scout.
I have a M96 made in 1918. I made a new front post to fit the dovetail that is approximately 1/10" higher than the original. Mine originally shot 6" high at 200 yards on the 200m setting. The additional height brought it right down.
don't they start at 300m ;) ?
Love these 600 yard videos! And yes, these old Mausers are little works of art,
I have swedish Mauser but the carbine version and love it. Had to put different front sit on it so it would be at 100 yards instead of 300 meters.
i reload my 6.5x55 with 53gr vhit and 155 HPBT hitting 0.5inch groups at 200metres. it is a amazing round, I don't know why it isn't shot more than what it already is. In my humble opinion it could replace the 5.56 nato round
I doubt its going to replace 556 anytime soon! Will it run in a ar platform? I suspect not! 6.5 creedmore on the other hand does! Also has less recoil and superior ballistics, this (along with 224 valkyrie) is a possibility, all be it a very slim one!
i like these chill "learning" videos yall do. hope to see more in the pipeline.
I enjoyed every minute of the video. 540 meters is a hell of a distance!
I would love to see y'alls do some more complete gun assembleys like the practical ar series. Maybe a battle rifle setup or dmr? A bolt gun? I love the channel! Keep the awesome content coming!
This is by far my favourite millsurp bolt action, I've heard storys of this rife shooting 1-3 moa witch is almost unheard of with most milsurp rifles. I want one pretty bad lol
i find my M96 produces heat-induced mirage over the front post quicker than the K98K and other old-school rifles (Lee-Enfield, K31, Mosin etc). Not sure if this is due to the barrel heating up faster (more surface contact area of that long slim projectile) or just the front post design
Great video, thanks! You guys are awesome, and I love what you do. These Swedish mausers are gorgeous, and I'd love to get me one. Keep up the great work!
"In my mind if you can shoot this gun, you can shoot anything." I apply that more to learning the quirks of a mid-war mosin with 30 year-old surplus and then also knowing how it corrects once the barrel heats up. =) M39 on the other hand.... whatever you feed it, it puts in the ring.
This video made me dig out a sporterized 6.5x55 milsurp rifle I got in a trade forty years ago.....taking it to the range tomorrow.
A dial elevation adjustment(Vesteras spelling may not be correct) insert takes all the "fun" out sight adjustment on the M96 while not permenantly altering it. The dial was the right choice for me using my 1921 in vintage service rifle matches. My favorite rifle in my collection is a CG 80 with a Shultz and Larsen barrel and a Danish Konesburg two stage match trigger. Thanks for the Video , 6.5x55 is the original 6.5 "cool" and my favorite.
Love the old guns, thanks for breakin out the classics👍
A friend of mine was/is a hardcore air rifle shooter, when somebody told him to try his luck with a fire arm. So he bought a mint condition M96 for €250,- and learned to hand load accurate ammo. After a year, a friend signed him in for a 300, 500 and 600 yard Bisley style match. He was shocked (he only shot 100 meters), but learned the bullet drop and working with the sights. He won the 500 and 600 meters that day... Keep in mind that Bisley style is only 12 shots per distance and the best 10 counts.
Here in Holland, all rifles that are not 5,56 mm are competing in the 'Veteran' class. The only rifles that are capable of winning these matches are the K31, 1903A3 and the M96. Oh, and occasionally an old Dutch AR10.
Why didn't you set the sight back on #5 , raise the front sight post picture a little in the rear sight? Then you can hold right on.
Swedes are amazing rifles. I had several in the past... one was a magnificent 96 - all matching and just beautiful wood excellent condition. Alas, I let them get away. But.... I just found a 96/38 on gunbroker of all places = most all matching serials, and for $550 so I ordered it. Everything looks really good in the pics/description so hoping for a good one. It has the original sights, not updated to the spitzer round but I handload, so I can just load up milspec 160 grain loads which should match up to the sights. Looks like it's either S&B factory 131 grain loads or handload. You can probably find other factory loads but the prices are nuts... thanks for the vid! I enjoyed it.
Yessir, this Swedish Mauser in 6.5 is my favorite shooter as well.
Thanks for the video on it.
Me tooooo! NOW I have an itchy finger! the brick soaks up the recoil and mil surp ammo is flat, Fast! goes where it's told! I LOVE the sights.
Mine almost Always catches a ride in my truck when we go out shooting! Young shooters and girls tend to do really well with my old lady. Great gun I use to transition new shooters from 22 to a real BANG!
I would recommend a 130gr bullet HPBT and Hogdon 4831 or Accurate 3100 for powder. I would start at ~46gr powder load and work myself up.
The Swedish home guard later used a rear diopter peep sight made by Söderin or Pramm on the M96 rifles which is why they're usually allowed in most military surplus rifle competitions. The Söderin diopter is adjustable to 600m. They significantly improve the shootability and adjustability especially for longer range and sporting applications. I think hitting that gong at 600 yards with the diopter would have been a breeze with that diopter in the rifle. The inherent accuracy is most certainly there. Some people shoot these rifles at 1000 yards.
I have a couple M96 Mausers. The front sight is a 300 meter sight. You can get a shorter frontsight to calibrate shots at every 100 yds.
Damn y’all have the best job in the world.
I’ve got an m96 with diopter sights and I cannot express how fantastic it is to shoot, the gun is kinda beat up, the diopters have been banged around and completely marred up. It has a kinda dark and kinda crusty bore, the first time I shot it I went and did 5/5 on the 200 yard gong, 5/5 on the 300, 4/5 on the 400 and then 3/5 on the 500 first shots shooting it and I was just nailing the 500 yard gong all day after that
Addleyprecision makes a smith-less picatinny rail scope mount that works well and there is no alteration to the rifle, I put one on my 1924 Swedish M96 and it works well and holds zero. I bought a turned down bolt for the rifle and kept the original bolt. Incredible shooter and the gun maintains its originality
Man Eric hates it when Chad talks in these videos.
6,5x55 is the most used target load allso in Norway, both in standard rifle competition 200 and 300 meters. We used to use the Krag jørgensen in 6,5x55..
I have a CG 63 which is a swedish mauser converted to a 300m target rifle by Carl Gutaff. I love it!
I presently own a m96 manufactured in 1899 and has the original disk, all original. I previously owned a model 33/55 and it was all original except for the front sight. Someone had done away with with the military blade and replaced it with a more modern at some point. Was easier to hit small targets at 200 and 300 yards.
Thanks for driving up the prices of these.
I have a model 96 with 6.5x55. its considered as a Nato round. they are extremely powerful very accurate and not much recoil. I absolutely love this rifle. great gun to hunt with.
In Holland, most 100 meter ranges are indoor and so are the service rifle matches shot at 100 meters. Because standard loads heat up the barrel very fast, and mirage blocks the sight view, serious competition shooters download their ammo. They use 20 grains of faster burning powder. M96's are know to win almost every veteran rifle class match. Together with the 1903A3. For military rifle class, you need an AR15 or SIG Stg90 to win a match.
You should check out an Australian channel called mark and Sam after work if your into long range stuff, shoots stuff like 375 cheytac, 338 lap, 375 Gibbs out to 4000+ yard. Awesome channel. And pulls off standing 1000 yard shots with 357mag in a marlin for fun, similar videos to this, just takes you through the process with them and not just cut scenes of all the hits. Love your channel, cheers from Australia
That flamed wood is Fiddleback Maple.
Love these videos... I am thinking about getting one of these Swedish Mausers in 2018! Happy New Year from one of your German Subs!
Have two M38, one milspec, one fully sported. The sight issue with your M96 is two fold. 1) sights are regulated for the RN 162 grain ball load. When Sweden adopted tge 142 grain spitzer they did not correct the sights but pasted a correction table to the stock. Hope you can read Swedish. 2) the twist rate in the barrel is optimized for the longer and heavier bullet. Shooting 140 gr bullets as I think you are results in a very slightly unstable projectile in flight. Not really an issue inside 300 yards, but more significant at range.
The M94/M96/M38 will not shoot the lighter 6.5 bullets popular in the 6.5 creedmore because of the twist issue. The 123 grain varmint bullets keyhole from mine at 50 yards. Go to a 160 grain bullet like a match king and you will drill a hole in your gong.
Likely the reason you're off is that it's set at a certain range with the front sight you have, for the M41 spitzer ammo, while the range settings on the backsite are unchanged and set for the 156 grain roundnosed ball that was issued before. There's range conversion stickers with holdover/under for the varying ranges that were issued to troops and stuck upside to the stock to help them dope the ranges. You are shooting closer to M41 spec ammo, not accountign for the differing trajectory/unmatched front site height and using the original range settings---
My two favorite "high power" rifle cartridges are 6.5mm Swede, and .270 Winchester. Never shot 6.5mm Creedmoor, yet. The only reason I want a "Creedy" is ammo availability vs. 6.5mm Swede.
Great video. These long range videos are some of my favorite
I also have a m96 from 1906 my favorite gun ever, and I can agree that they are king of the Mausers, and I would also say easily all the military surplus guns.
You need one of those swedish diopter sights they made several that were used by the swedish target shooters. Absolutely beautiful rifle definitely my favorite Mauser. Thanks
lot off m96 mausers here in the Netherlands at my gun club ad least 10 people own them
I'm somewhat curious as to what a Dutch gun club would be like. What kind of firearms do you typically see?
own a fal stg58 h&k mr308 a3 20'' Remington r5 mill spec cz 858 tactical and dan Wesson 375 mag revolver 5 gun max up to 8mm mauser rifle cal 100 meter indoor shooting
Waiting to see an svt-40 review from you guys I have one yall can use
Me as well
@@chrismaciolek7314 i would love to see that as well as
Love my Swede . It's a 96 Gustav . It's been "sporterized" with a ramline stock and a lil bolt work. To this day probably my most accurate rifle at range . Best part you can shoot it all day with no strawberries.
brown11871 - no strawberries?????
Aka - it don't kick
Can you please give us a POV from the shooters position to the target? Lovely rifle!
In CMP Vintage rifle competition The Swede is a top performer. It's the most fun you can have with a Swede. I'd love to see you at Perry with it.
Thanks for the video guys, and Happy New Year to you both.
One of the best calibers👍🇸🇪❤️
She's a beauty
Very common Rifle here in Australia, there are 4 Gun shops in my town and each of them have at least 3 on the shelves.
In the '80s there was a company doing "sporter" versions here, They put them in a reasonable stock, removed the iron sights, drilled and tapped them and mounted a 4x32 Nikko Stirling 'scope on them and sold them for about $200.
You can also get Timney triggers and low swing safeties for them. Barnes are doing some fantastic projectiles in this calibre now, and they are a piece of cake to reload. My cousin and i have competitions with each other shooting bunnys with them, He's winning at the moment with a hit at 666 measured Meters! (The Devils shot :-) )
P.S. Don't let anyone tell you the receivers are made of "soft metal", they are as good as, and some times better than many Rifles made at that time.
Thanks for the great review. Have a CZ 557 6.5x55 and it is a great shooter. Absolutely love military surplus. IMHO barrel length, although providing more accuracy, many Mausers near 30" painful to tote around the Montana backcountry.
I have one that I'm in the process of unBubba-ing. Had to order replacement metal and barrel cover on the front. The receiver ring and bridge are drilled and tapped which is ok as I'll be scoping it eventually. If the disc is correct, the barrel is near new.
Great vid. Those Swedish Mausers are awesome. Loved it
great video I like the way you guys never give up and overcome the odds that's why you're the best no BS Games
great shots!! Really like it
This never gets old awesome
Keep up the great work and Happy New year
I love watching the milsurps thanks Eric and Chad , have a happy and safe New Years , wouldnt putting a wind sock down range make it easier for the shooter also
I've been waiting for this video. Now I can't wait to see how it shoots with 143 VLDs and the SMKs.
This (in my opinion) is one of the greatest cartridges ever developed. It's been around since 1894 and is more than capable of taking any game on the planet with the exception of maybe a few on the dark continent and even then may perhaps be up to the task with proper bullet selection and shot placement.
Guys... guys... think about it a moment. You don't have to physically alter your sights, you don't need a specific load. There are two simple ways that you can have a nice 6 o'clock hold on that 550 yard/meter (whatever) gong and hit it consistently. On the battlefield, the enemy does not place themselves at 100 meter intervals for the convenience of your sight settings - they are at random distances and the Swedish (German, Russian, etc.) military knew this. Just think about it for a moment and you'll see how to use your unmodified m/96B with the ammo you've got and also be able to have a 6 o'clock hold on the gong. No need to aim way low in the grass or anywhere else.
The Hornady SST load in 6.5x55 is nice and hits hard. Was hitting the same steel with the AR in 5.56, the swed hit so much harder.
Greatings from Sweden! Love your videos. From my own experiace PPU ball ammo isn´t usually very accurate at that range. That´s probably a big part of the problem.
600 yards iron sights! 😯. Call me impressed!
I really like the 6.5x55 sm. I have one in a Sako 85 hunting rifle. And I'm using handloads with Hornady ELD-X 143gr and man I'm telling you it's a real tackdriver. :)
Thanks guys. Ive been waiting for this one. I hear they like the ppu SP 139's
Mil Surp is 147 grain and fast Fast FAST! Flat flat FLAT! so heavy it soaks up the recoil.
if you can see it, you can hit it!
I like the sights too.
Got mine in the early 90's for $100
iit's the partisan ammo. My 40's and 50's mil surp swedish goes crazy good.
Damn Eric...you put two in a row right on top of each other at 600 yds with blades...that's some good shooting!!! 16:00
Haha someone forgot to turn off there Mike. Awesome rifle guys I love that wood more than any other