Messi or Ronaldo: EVERYONE picks their GOAT! | You Have To Answer | ESPN FC
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- Stars from the football world and beyond have their say on the Lionel Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo debate in ESPN FC’s You Have To Answer challenge! Which GOAT will emerge victorious? Hear from Giorgio Chiellini, Alphonso Davies, Megan Rapinoe, Christian Pulisic, Andy Robertson, Tim Howard, Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang, Emma Hayes, Kevin De Bruyne, Romelu Lukaku, Leroy Sane, Reece James, Brendan Aaronson, Tyler Adams, Marco Reus, Thomas Muller, Craig Burley, Manuel Neuer, Jose Altidore, Kingsley Coman, Fernandinho, Jack Harrison, Josh Sargent, Granit Xhaka, Cedric Soares, Gio Reyna, Ryan Sessegnon, Aaron Mooy, Julie Ertz, Arnaut Danjuma, Trinity Rodman, Fran Kirby and more.
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Both are GOAT, Ronaldo is the best on social media, Messi is the best in football.
Ronaldo is the best in football
He won everything accept world cup and you're telling him social media 🤣🤣🤣
W statement
@@aniltawahang3257 messi is still a better player
Why people judge goat Ronaldo?🤦🏻♂️ I love both Messi and Ronaldo they are living legends and still active playing world cup 2022/23🥰🥰🥰
Ronaldo is the natural pick for anyone who doesn't watch the game.
Or play it for that matter he's just more popular
Ah yes his 5 ucls aren’t important
Müller???....he doesn’t watch football
Be humble bro, always think u r not as smart as u think; that is wisdom. By the way this is a subjective question, people will respond according to their context. 8 billions people and 8 billions minds. If everyone is thinking alike, then no one is thinking.
@@microsoft_ward The 5 UCLs that also belong to Casemiro, Kroos, Benzema, Modric and Marcelo?
The dedication & hard work of Ronaldo is second to none on earth but Messi is pure talent, Super natural! Out of this world!
Just because Messi doesn't advertise himself doesn't mean that he is not as hard working as Ronaldo. I agree that Ronaldo's work ethic is insane but you don't perform as consistently as Messi without having a high quality work ethic. In 2022, he is arguably the best all round player rn. He was the best a decade ago, let that sync in!
this ronaldo is hard worker and messi is talent is by far the dumbest take i have heard ever since this debate started
Messi is hard working too, the difference is he didn't post photos when he workout at gym to Instagram.
Lies... Messi trains hard as well... He is not a diva to be showing every training session on social media... letting his son do sit ups for social media...CRY-7 will use anything even his son for attention... Messi would never...
@@serbronnoftheblackwater4149 wow dude this is the big difference
Almost everyone that was asked that played the game said Messi, all the other ones were the ones who chose Ronaldo.
thats literally not true but okay
I Guess they play fortnite
Stop lying to yourself
Formula 1 drivers 🤣🤣
Cope, people enjoy Ronaldo’s football as well
Funny thing is messi isn’t that behind from Ronaldo in terms of goals, let’s not forget that he’s not just two years younger but not even a goalscorer like Ronaldo is 😊
but you should remember in 9years 450goals in 438 matches in madrid.can you deny
played way less games to
Funny thing is that Ronaldo never used growth hormones
@@wereallyrollin6680 yeah that's outrageous... my mom took growth hormones once, started dribbling like crazy
@@wereallyrollin6680 didn’t know growth hormones were used as a performance enhancer 🤣…messi had a medical condition
Ronaldo has done extremely well to get himself in this debate
😂😂😂
underrated comment, extremely well
facts you still gotta respect the work he been putting in because he really got 150% out of his full talents because of that
Big respect to Ronaldo, but he is no more than a legendary goalscorer. Not even close to being greatest footballer of all time. That is Messi's title
Thing is tho,its not even ronaldo,its the media. Messi was called the GOAT at age 23,and that was back in 2011,we hadnt yet seen his most explosive season(2012-13) or his most balanced(2014-15) or the one where he carried barca the most(2018-19). Despite all of that,somehow ronaldo is still involved in the convo. I m7st give jt to his fans,ronaldo isnt even 10 levels close to messi,and that has been the way since 2010
Messi’s playmaking alone gets him into the GOAT debate, add 750+ goals to that you have the best player ever imo.
Yeh, i still dont understand ronaldo hype
He is good and probably the best after messi but messi plays football on a hole different level
@@alexmanai1953 if you don't mind me asking how old are you?
@@alexmanai1953 tell that to the Saudis
@@tenzinchoezin1454 didn’t know Messi was 11 player
The goats show up in big matches. This is when cristiano comes in, the most complete player ever.
Messi was born for football, simply the king of football
Messi was born for football.
Ronaldo worked for his dream.
technically he actually wasn't born for it since he had to take HGH to play
@@darvynm541 so he was horned with Down syndrome 😂😂
@@nathanchisupa3960 and someone else work for messi all these years ryt?😆
Lies again? God Singing Heavy Metal Breast Feeding
There is no comparison what so ever, not a real one at least, it is a MEDIA "rivalry", but every normal human being who loves and watches football would say Messi and this comparison makes Messi looks less than what he actually is and makes Cristiano better than what he actually is. One aspect of Cristiano can be compared with Messi which is goal scoring, and Messi percentage wise and quality wise (not needing great teammates to assist him) is also much better and efficient than Cristiano, but what about all other extraordinary things Messi does? reading the game, his vision, movements, passing skills, of course god level dribbling skills, FK .. and more, you can pick one side of Messi and compare it with a whole other great player's career, you would put Messi with Neymar in terms of dribbling, Cristiano in terms of goal scoring, Iniesta in terms of passing, Xavi in terms of vision and more, this alone tells you that Messi is the GOAT and much bigger than any other player. We judge Messi on the things that he "couldn't achieve" like the WC and Copa (before her won it) and that alone should tell you that he's the GOAT, you are judging him on a criteria of his own, every other player you would argue his skills and achievements, with Messi he is judged by the things that he still didn't achieve which is basically just the WC lol, that alone tells you he's the best, you are admitting that he's the GOAT when you try to belittle him.
I agree, ronaldo is a good player but overhyped and nowhere near the level of messi
The only thing he has more is Instagram followers and that has nothing to do with football
I swear mate messi is on a level of his own the painful thing ronaldo talks alot and is more popular with all this thing he brings to himself but anyone who watches football and is in the right position to judge clearly will 9/10 say Messi
Any human with a decently sized brain knows that ronaldo is not close in any way to messi.
@@johnumukoro1244 if messi spoke even half as much ronaldo everyone would be behind him,ronaldo has so many deluded fanboys because he speaks,people moon over their superheroes when they have something to say
Not reading all of that but you're right
Ronaldo has 818 goals in 1140 games
Messi has 786 goals in 996 games
Still Ronaldo is by far better, messi is a small game player, ronaldo a big game player.
@@Masim443 messi got more final goals and more goals in big head 2 head games
@@Masim443 2009 UCL Final begs to differ
@@jalalsaid4237 u nean copa de rey final....Finals is different from finals...
Messi played in la liga where Barcelona and Madrid won it since 2004
The only team who won it was Atletico Madrid
When Ronaldo played in the Premier league it was harder to score goals
When he moved to Spain it was evident that his goals picked up. Messi had it easier in La liga compared to Ronaldo in EPL. The games were much tougher
Ronaldo scored 450 goals in 438 for Real
He scored 101 for Juventus if you add that up it it would've been 551
He would've scored more goals for Madrid in that 3 years he spent at Juve
Messi scored 672 778 goals for Barcelona and he spent almost his whole career in there
Bro if Ronaldo stayed at Real Madrid and Left like Messi last season things would've been much much closer I'm telling you. I'm not saying he would've surpassed Messi but I think it would've been much closer than what it is in reality
Ronaldo was a goal machine at Real
Messi played 340 more games than Ronaldo
Messi played in a league where it was predetermined who is going to win it either Real Madrid or Barcelona and its still that ways because look who is at the top now
Messi
That midget is always ghosting in big games Ronaldo better😴
David Beckham
Phil jones
Harry Maguire
Messi has more non-penalty goals than Ronaldo and better stats in dribbling, assists, playmaking, secondary assists, and man of the matches. Crazy how most coaches and high tier players chose Messi too
Most icons choose Ronaldo including Pele, Zidane, Lampard, Kaka, Roberto Carlos, Giggs and many others. The only reason Messi has more goals is that Cristiano was playing as a midlfieder in United for like 3 or 4 seasons. That's not an argument.
Also he played in different leagues, has more goals and assists in CL league, has better CL play-off ratio, better international competitives ratio, better La Liga all time ratio, the most 25+ meter goals in history, most matchwinners in history, also he's officially the best goalscorer in history of the sport. There's no comparison.
@@user-pm2zy6rj1c They don't tho expect Zidane. Pele says Messi in a recent interview. And they doesn't make sense cause Messi played in mid field like 90% of his career
@@user-pm2zy6rj1c Ronaldo has way more CL games than Messi played and barely more goals and assists than Messi. Different leagues don't matter cause he performs well against Premier League teams too. Cmon bro u making Ronaldo fans look bad
@@versaceg i See messi start 300+ games as a striker but messi fans gon say he start as striker but he is the deeplying playmaking defender that is always in the opponent box.
@@user-pm2zy6rj1c most icons choose messi
Cruyff,Maradona,dinho,r9,cafu,Maldini,Beckham and lot more
The names you mentioned,played or coached him
They had to bring F1 driver to increase ronaldo's tally 😂😂😂
Asking F1 drivers , mls players , boxers and mma fighters about who the football GOAT is lol.
I can smell the id1ot on you
I love how you assume they don't watch football 😂.
@@Sage-vw5ns lol right. What’s that say about us viewers? Our opinions must not matter as well considering we are not professional footballers. Ronaldo haters can be pretty fu*king dumb
@@owenradford4553 🤣😅😅
Messi is a playemaker,goalscorer,best dribbler,creates chances for teammates,has most assists while ronaldo is just a good quality scorer and had a bit pace and physic. There's is totally no player to be compared to Messi
Messi is not even the best argentina player lol
Has Messi ever scored phenomenal bicycle kicks like Ronaldo did in that UCL final?
Thanks for exposing yourself that you started watching football since 2020.
Lol
@@bro8390 goals to game ratio messi is better, he has the most goals in a calendar year so he is better. Has more Motm, more assists, more trophies,better dribbling and better play maker. Statistically and eye test messi beats Ronaldo in every way
Messi Magic is a once in a lifetime player.
Will we ever see a football goat like this again?
Ronaldo is literally better, messi is just an overhyped small game player. He is nothing anymore at high stage since 2015
@@Masim443 youre a troll
Yes, Malcolm
@Renato sanches what? Not even close
@@alibarznji2000 Haaland can beat Ronaldo in terms of goalscoring capabilities by the speed at which he is growing. Ronaldo's leadership/influence on the team is something that is near impossible to achieve even for haaland
Messi is by far the better footballer. A considerably better dribbler, passer, playmaker, freekick taker as well as a better finisher. Ronaldo can head the ball better and can take a better penalty... Thats about it. Talent-wise, Ronaldo is not on level with Maradona, George Best, Cruyff, Zidane, R9 let alone Messi. He just has the statistics. Which is fine. But they dont tell the whole picture.
So you’re telling me zidane maradona george best cruyf and r9 are better than ronaldo😂
You're acting like sepp Blatter on this comments so narcessistic 🤦🏻♂️
Hahahaha better finisher? Have you seen him at PSG? His finishing is whack. Ronaldo is faster, stronger, better at LONGshots, finishing, heading, penalties, off the ball movement and many other things.
Zidane, Pele, Kaka, Lampard, Giggs and many other icons picked him over Messi? Guess why? Cuz he's just a better footballer, that's it. Robaldo is known for carrying his teams in big games, Messi - for ghosting in them and walking with his head down while losing another big game. Different levels.
and what happens in big games ? i heard one of them bottles everything..
Huh? Messi couldn’t do half the skills CR7 can. Let’s not be delusional please😂
"at the moment Id have to say Ronaldo"
That can't have been filmed this season.
i was wondering the same thing......i think that specific video is not that of a recent one
its a compilation or montage or collage of anwering that specific questions.
True that...
LoL
Cristiano only argument is quantity, Messi it's quantity and quality
Both have both
Missi is hgh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quantity.....in which sense ?
Ronaldo has quality too so what you're saying makes no sense
No, Ronaldo is the quality
Just by looking at Messi dribbling and magical passing abilities is enough to know he's a better football player. Then you check the advanced stats like xG, key passes, through ball, touches in opposition half, failed ball controls, ball carries, successful 1v1, goals/assists, passing accuracy, free kicks stats (scored, precision) etc... and again, Messi is the better offensive player !
Finally, if you could mesure the hype that one or the other generates among football fans by just watching them play, I think Messi would again win the battle as Messi does way more things on the ball (especially 1v1, ball carries, tight spaces situations getting out of pressure by himself) and with his high quality passes + quickness and precision in the technical execution of all those things.
Messi > Ronaldo. I mean how could you deny what I just wrote there... If you can't accept that, you just don't know this sport and you just love Ronaldo too much.
You think Ronaldo fans understand what any of those stats mean, lol?
Pessi...is oy good at dribbling due to his short height
Pessi literally stayed for whole life in a club
@@shahabuddin2802 exactly 🤣🤣🤣
@XXSAVAGE 2021-22 channel 😂😂 go watch tennis or golf. I think you didn't understand the concept of this sport... wow! how is it possible to be so dumb !?
Anyone who understands football will say Messi is better ,infact you cannot compare him to Messi. Messi is THE GOAT of football.
I disagree, I understand football and I say Ronaldo is the GOAT. What a stupid comment.
Anyone who understand football will know that these two are entirely different players and cannot compare. You can compare based on trust, can you trust Messi in the dying minutes? Not much, but Ronaldo, well statistics back it up.
Such a stupid comment. Messi is better for me but people who say Ronaldo is better can still understand football. Pele is one of the greatest football players ever and he picked Ronaldo, I'm quite sure he knows football. Just because people don't share the same opinions as you doesn't mean they don't understand football.
@@ashwinsundar6726 they are two very different players. One who is primarily a goal scorer who relies on other to control the game and provide for him. The other who controls the tempo of the game, provides for other players, and has roughly the same amount of goals as the other player who is primarily focused on scoring and nothing else. I’ll let you figure out which is which.
@@smallarmskepa4390 Well what do you expect from a striker? Ronaldo should also go back and defend? Haaland also relies on the team to score goal, that's what strikers are, the entire team builds towards him. In case of Messi, he is more of a false 9 or sometimes has a free role which is why he scores and assissts as well. So what have learned from this? That it all boils down to the manager, so if Messi is told by his manager to focus only on scoring, he only has to do that, else he is gonna stay in bench.
Goalscoring is the only area of football where Ronaldo is at par with Messi
Messi is better even in that..goals per game ratio is better...And in other aspects like assists,playmaking,key passes Messi is far superior to Ronaldo..
And better weak foot, better heading, stronger, faster, skills. I give passing and dribbling to messi
Messi averages more goals than Cristiano, and is only a few shy of him having played over 100+ games less, hes a better goalscorer
@@KristianDabeski Messi's strength is underrated. Shrugs off the defender and gets on with the game. Faster than Ronaldo with the ball definitely. Hardly falls down. This is also owing to a lower centre of gravity helping him do that just like being tall helps Ronaldo with heading ability.
@@KristianDabeski lol stop with your cap, Messi is way more skilled than Ronaldo
There shouldn’t be a debate messi is the goat period
Better goal/per game ratio while not being a striker
Most assist in history
Best passer in history
One of if not the best at dribbling
More team trophies
More individual trophies
And lets not forget more ballon dors/ mvp awards
The only thing ronaldo has more is followers on instagram and that doesnt have anything to do with football
Pessi is short penaldo is clear in my book🥱
@HD__Exclusives what's wrong with my pfp? You don't even have one
@HD__Exclusives okay you too
@HD__Exclusives 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
@Top 10 pessi is finished in my book 🥱 couldn't even score 2 goals against a mickeymouse country
Messi is always the number one, he is genuine in term of talent and ability to impact the game. And also messi mother and sister always have good attitude in social media and thats is really plus point for messi.
☝🤓"messi mother and sister always have good attitude in social media and thats why messi is the goat"
I wanna imagine neuer and muller arguing over the goat debate 😂
Müller has no ball knowledge and hates Barca
@@bt7370 Barca fan saying Muller has no ball knowledge EXPECTED
ahem, expert on all things Muller here. jk, jk. Has nothing to do with Barca hate, Muller flipped the question on them, which is why he was first going , you sure I can't ask you guys the questions. Anyways, Muller said. He'd prefer to play with Ronaldo because assisting was a big part of his game now, and Ronaldo like Lewandowski would be perfect for his style of play, since they stay up in the box to finish chances.
muller is just stupid talking as if ronaldo and messi played alone against bayern. ronaldo player for the best club team since di stefanos real madrid when he faced muller with zidanes madrid team
Thomas only picked Ronaldo because our Bayern always lose to Real Madrid, and have good record on Barca. Thomas deep down knows Messi is better, as most Bayern fans.
Messi is magic , Ronaldo is hard work
The people who truly know and love the game will say Messi, those less informed will say Crkelly
Actually people who truly know the game and love love game will say BOTH. Ronaldo before 37yrs old, from 18 to 36 was a beast, Messi is not yet 37 so still a beast so Both
Crkelly? You need to go get checked...
The existence of both of these elite players in the same era really inspire each other to compete and thrive to be the best. Which means if there’s no Messi, we wouldn’t witness prime CR7 and without CR7, we wouldn’t witness prime Messi. I’m just thankful that I’m living in the same era with these two legends and witnessing arguably the best era of football.
thanks for not being a STAN for these players and just loving football
@@samuraigaming3042 frthose people
Cr7 is no where near messi guys ☠️🤡
I mean
Messi is:
-Top 2 in goals
-Top 1 in assists
-Top 1 in dribbling
-Top 1 in playmaking
-Top 2 in "UCL",
-Top 5 in "Wc"
-Top 1 in "Ballon d'Or"
-Top 1 in "Golden Boot"
-Top 1 in "THE BEST" award
-Top 1 in "Laureus award"
-Top 1 in the "IFFHS best playmaker" award
-Top 2 in the "UEFA Trophy" award
Meanwhile Ronaldo is
-Top 1 in goals
-Top 7 in assists
-Top 20 in dribbling
-Top 12 in playmaking
-Top 1 in "UCL"
-Top 80 in "WC"
-Top 2 in "Ballon d'or"
-Top 2 in "Golden Boot"
-Top 2 in "THE BEST" award
-Top N/A in "Laureus award"
-Top 1 in the "UEFA Trophy" award
The point where the debate comes in is between the goals, where each one has arguments to be classified as the best goalscorer, and in the UCL, (where Ronaldo is better than Messi in this aspect).
In literally every other aspect of football, Messi wins. The thing is that, in the football aspects where Ronaldo wins, Messi is close or even in same level compared to Ronaldo, while in the football aspects where Messi wins, Messi has a significant advantage in each one, where Ronaldo is not close to Messi in those things.
Yes, the only debate is in the UCL (Ronaldo clearly better in this aspect) and in goals (debatable), in other things, Messi has a lot of advantage.
Such a disrespectful question.... To messi...
To Ronaldo:))
@@dimitryivanov9778 like comparing tiger woods to michael jordan.. Pfff such a futile debate
More like to ronaldo
@@omartrachen6794 agreed, MJ and Cristiano are both GOAT's of their sport
YES SIR
We all know that messy is by far the best weather is 2 3 4 5 Defenders and still be able to score like a PlayStation or a grown man playing against teenagers we just have never seen that he's just a mastermind on everything
If i have to keep one in my team ill keep Messi.
He can assist n he is the architect.
For scoring Ronaldo no doubt is best but his speed will slow down slowly.
But messi doesn't need to run.
He just need to stay in the game n assist that's all
If u realize most of the ones who says Ronaldo takes long an has to think but everyone saying Messi said it fast goes to show how unsure they are Messi all the way
Bro are you delusional 🤣
“Everyone”🤣🤣
Not necessarily, I am Messi fan but he had a few hesitation answers
Sure, like espn would have messi lose to Ronaldo.
I swear Messi fans like you are so insecure about themselves and their idol that they will find any meaningless detail to further prove their point
I’m actually surprised how many people picked Ronaldo.
Most of the people who picked RONALDO were F1, Boxer, mls or nfl practically everyone that picked Ronaldo DOSEN’T watch the game, everyone that knows that game and is a extremely great player picked MESSI
@@mandiletoni4963 im a messi fan and knows hes the GOAT but tbf muller did pick ronaldo an exception i guess , even lukaku but hes dropped off lol
Muller is the only amazing player who picked Ronaldo
@@thanmayjinu6333 He said he had a better stats against Messi and Barcelona which is true.
We don't know how they asked the question: Is it who is your favorite player? Who is better atm?... they are manufacturing the rivaliry
Anyone that actually thinks Ronaldo is better are so delusional lmao. Like I know you don’t watch ball
Says the guy who thinks a guy who cannot dribble can be a goat messi fans have forgotten why people come to see the game it is to be entertained messi is not that type of player therefore it is easy to say messi will never be a goat unless he suddenly learns it and does it for 12 years 😂
You’re the delusional one here. Messi is overrated. Barcelona made product 🤣. Can’t even handle pressure.
@@andersmortensen7415 penaldo is not even close to entertaining he can t dribble lmao 🤣🤣🤡🤡
@@andersmortensen7415 Messi can’t dribble?
just like tom holland is the worst spiderman
Reality (League+International):
Dribble: Messi 3019; R7 1646;
Non-penalty Goal: Messi 686; R7: 673;
Assist : Messi: 393; R7: 176;
Key pass: Messi: 1325; R7: 890;
THROUGHBALLS: Messi: 430; R7: 81;
World Cup Best: Messi: 1 Champion 1 Runner-up; R7: Quarter-final
Most forced debate of all time. Ronaldo is good, but he’s closer to Neymar or Suarez than Messi. That’s the truth. Messi is just different.
Can argue Neymar is better on the ball in terms of passing and dribbling
Delusional af...
U clearly do not watch football
Shut up kiddo
If only people were as honest as you are!
Messi is far ahead of cr7...Messi is not only a goal scorer but a great playmaker...
Both great footballers, two of the greats. But I go with Messi
With increase in age both Messi n Ronaldo's speed will decline.
But Messi's game will be almost same coz he relies his strength at techniques,assist,dribbling n play making n for that u don't have to run much.
But Ronaldo's game will be completely change coz he relies on speed to reach the perfect spot to score.
Mehhhssi🐐🔥
if you went back in time , stopping at yearly intervals, and asked this question, the outcome would be different every year
Messi is like Goku and Ronaldo is like Vegeta for me
Messi just has that natural ability like Goku and just tends to garner the attention but....
just like Vegeta, Ronaldo trains and grinds and machines his body to surpass Messi from time to time.
There are moments in the timeline that Ronaldo has been better but generally speaking Messi is just a little better than Ronaldo :)
but Goku is taller and better looking than Vegeta..
But is Ronaldo really more hard working? Just because Messi dosen't post as much as Ronaldo in social media, dosen't automatically mean Messi is less hard-working.
Its not the conventional hard working I agree to reach messi's level you need to be an insanely hard working player, I mean more along the lines of conditioning your body i.e.(ice baths, workouts, strength training, jumping hang time, muscle isolation) without question Ronaldo has to do this more to make up for the lack of skillset he has when compared to Messi
@@rammus5672 messi skillset is scoring 5 goals whole season in farmers league 😭
@@impotentrage2694 he also had more than 15 assists last season, you dumbo. That's the difference between Messi and Ronaldo, Messi even without scoring will be an integral part of any team with his playmaking skills, but Ronaldo without goals will be warming the bench for any team watching youngs kids play ahead of him 😂😂😂
They are both great players but if you ask me who do I want in my team I will say Messi every time… Ronaldo has proven over and over to be a prima dona.
Messi 🐐
After 2022 we shouldn't be comparing these two. Messi needs a new worthy opponent.
its just very simple you love Football you love Messi , And if you dont love Messi and watch Football , That means you just dont get what football is about
Everyone who played in a team with Ronaldo and has no idea about football: RONALDO
Everyone who loves football and who is objective: MESSI
Messi was given the gift and Ronaldo built his talent. Both GOATs but more respect for Ronaldo from me.
talent cant be builted thats why its talent skill can be builted
Given by whoom? 🤣
Ronald is the best. Started as a midfielder; played as a midfielder most of his career and pulled ridiculous numbers.
Messi is great, no doubt, but you just have to say that the Barca system helped him a lot. It fit him perfectly.
Ronaldo would have done magical numbers if he was in that Barca team with Xavi & Iniesta.
Great players. Legendary.
Ronaldo played for the best teams in every league... also messi plays from much deeper than ronaldo.
Can't imagine calling Ronaldo a goat anymore when he didn't win a world cup.
None footballers: "Ronaldo"
Actual footballers: "Messi"
the quality of voters matters. i just realized that most voters with footballing sense chose Messi and heres why; just like one player once said, Ronaldo can score 5 goals in one match which is absolutely great, but what makes Messi more dangerous is that he can score 5 goals in one match and still assists his team mates to each score five goals. in scientific terms, Messi is a concave lense, he will spread his vibe to others to enjoy the hapiness with him while Ronaldo is a convex lense, it has to always be all about him, and when its not, thats when we see incidences like the current one.
Shaheen Afridi was Unexpected😂
Legend. He has no clue about football though.
Lmao, I noticed the same.
Shaheen is also there😂❤
Ronaldo is natural response for everyone that only watch football for highlight because on goal and skill only or people that doesn't know football and so only know Goalscorer. While Messi is watch by people who actually watch entire match...
The World Cup 2022 Final is turning point where everyone rethink that Messi is the true Goat.. World Cup is most prestigious sport tournament in humanity with 5.4 Bilion or actually more watch the world cup 2022 and which Semifinal and Final is what most attend and waited by everyone in the world.. Bilion people watch together with family and they directly watch every football player performance.. Everyone that truly have watch or even neutral one will already impressed by Lionel Messi.. Lionel Messi dribbling,assist,accuracy insane ball control is directly show to Bilion people at one match.. Bilion people are suddenly impressed of how Messi God-dribbling and Playmaker capability are.. While true Fans or Football enthusiast already know Messi have done that for 17 years.. Meanwhile Ronaldo in the world Cup already known..
Both is a generational talent..what these two had done in football will take years to even try to emulate what these two had done..its just a matter of which style of play that we preferred..both are very different player...
That is the dumbest argument Ronaldo fans present. There's no way choosing between Messi and Ronaldo comes down to preference. The gap in terms of ability is too big. Any adult with a functioning brain would be able to see that.
@@shahabuddin2802 sorry man i disagree completely...imagine haaland need to score 40+ a season in a next 15+ years..if u think its easy than every striker should be in that level...ronaldo record speaks for itself...its a playstation record in real life..as i said we have our own preference style of player..and its mind boggling that u just brush off ronaldo like he does nothing in the football world..a true football fan would think like this..sorry mate
@@rajaashraf7768 My fellow Pakistani brother. A true football fan would also consider advanced stats while comparing players. Stats such as xGoals, xAssists, Chances created, Dribbles completed. And when you take all of these stats into consideration, you realize that Ronaldo is NOWHERE near the best player of his generation.
Ronaldo became more successful when he became an out and out goalscorer. After the 2014 season, he was basically a goal poacher. Lewandowski since 2020 have been delivering same level of numbers as Ronaldo, and they both practically have the same gameplay. The reason Lewa doesn't get hyped as much is because he isn't insta famous like our dear Ronaldo.
@@rajaashraf7768 When Ronaldo fans bring up his numbers they always conveniently ignore goals/game ratio. Among the other top scorers in football. Players such as Pele, Romario, Messi, Bican, Muller, Eusebio. Ronaldo has the worst ratio, BY FAR. It's just that he has managed to stay fit for a long time.
If Haaland/Mbappe stay fit. They'll easily surpass Ronaldo's record. They can even surpass Messi's. But unlike Messi, Ronaldo's only claim to being one of the GOAT contenders is his goals.
@@shahabuddin2802 sorry im not pakistani...as i said true football fans will appreciate both of what they've done in football....and you prove me right because its all comes back to our preference...you chose messi because of all this reason and i chose ronaldo for other reason..the point is ive never brush of messi like you do to ronaldo..i try to point out that it will take 50 years to see this kind of two generational talents stand head to head and provide us with the entertainment all these years..u clearly a ronaldo hater not a true football fan..please read my 1st statement carefully...but yeah its your choice to dumb down all ronaldo achievement in football..im just saying it is what it is...messi has a better ability..yes but for me ronaldo is a michael jordan type of players..the clutch in this guy is unreal..but then..we all prefer different kind of player...imagine we are all football manager...some will love a messi type of player that can provide creativity as well as scoring prowess..some prefer a workhorse that can always find a clutch moment because of his athletic ability,strong mentality and relentless effort to try score a goal..from my stance...no hate between these two players...true football fans will always appreciate these two kind of players..i hope u understand and think it carefully.
Dont let the ronaldo hate cloud all your ability to see what is not if you truly a football fan..
It's funny how most of real footballers choose Messi , and people from others sports choose cr7
People choose Messi cuz Ronaldo has broken way to Many of their records. You just can't agree with anything lmao. Cry more 🤣
Pr7 for a reason
Ronaldo the greatest goal scorer world has ever seen ❤
No pessi that midget is better
Yet messi has better goal/game ratio
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True. Messi the greatest footballer the world has ever seen
Still Messi has more Golden boots!! Why bro ???
7 Ballon dors, 6 golden boots, one WC golden ball, more head to head win, beaten Ronaldo in champions league semi final and final, better dribbler, better assist maker, better goal per match ratio, better vision, better playmaker, 91 goals in a calendar year, Messi is way better than Ronaldo it's not even a question, infact he's the best player in the football history👽🐐
Complete footballer vs complete striker
It's all down to what kind of style or player you enjoy more in the game
Both are greats. One is great at being an opportunist for goals, other is great at being Picasso and Da Vinci at the same time. I did not name anyone here.
Now you know who is the greatest. You’re welcome 😂
Messi(80%talent20%hard work). Ronaldo(80%hard work20%talent).
For most of the footballers: Messi
For F1 races, MLS (basically F1 racers again), MMA (same as F1) : Ronaldo
"For me Ronaldo is a trained product, but Messi is natural" ~Z
Stats says it all Messi is the one who won this one.
We all know Ronaldo is faster, stronger, better at LONGshots, finishing, heading, penalties, off the ball movement and many other things. He's also more consistent, shows up in big games and caried his team in CL even at 37 years of age playing in the toughest league. I think the debate is over at this point.
How is he a better finisher when his shooting to goal and scoring ratio is horrendous compared to Messi’s? It’s a fact that Messi is a better finisher it’s statistically proven. You’re naming attributes that are athletic and I bet there’s many other players who are stronger, faster, and better at long shots then Messi. Messi literally is the player with the most goals scored in finals ever, it’s ironic.
Messi small game player, Ronaldo big game player, thats the difference
Agreed 100%
@@josearellano3670 maybe cuz Cristiano played as a midlfieder in United for like 3 or 4 seasons while Messi was always a winger-forward? Go learn the history, kid
Ronaldo is incomparable. Greatest player i have seen by far
If anybody who wanna know who is the best footballer let me tell you. Forget about Trophy and awards just compare by the performances throughout their careers. Most Man of the Match, Most Valuable Player and Most player of the Month. I think these things tells who the best is. Scoring goals is just one part of the game but doing all the part define complete player. One is a complete striker who is good at heading,and both legs the other one is a complete footballer/player who can play everywhere
Messi having a no goal contribution but still can be Player of the match
That's difference between Messi and Ronaldo.
Ronaldo does what others can But Messi You can't imagine others can what he does. He is The 🐐
GOATs don’t go on tv to whine about playing time.
Goats don’t score one goal in ligue 1 all season
Messi is the goat but not because that, and Ronaldo accomplishments aren’t diminished because of that either
Be in his shoes 👟 ohhh wait you can't fit em
@Top 10 read my second comment idiot
Messi is the goat doesn’t mean we have to drag Ronaldo down too, Messi’s one bad season didn’t mean anything because he’s good. Why can’t Ronaldo get the same treatment?
Lukaku wanted to say his own name
Players with abilites like Lukaku ( that relies on their physicality ) will always go for Ronaldo. I have seen female footballers that have a better first touch then Lukaku lol.
Let’s compare the numbers by individual…
Goals per game: Messi ✅
Assists per game: Messi ✅
Minutes per goal: Messi ✅
Hat tricks: CR7
Penalty goals: CR7
Penalty conversion rate: CR7
Free kick goals: Messi ✅
Free kick conversion rate: Messi ✅
Goals outside the box: Messi ✅
Goals inside the box: CR7
% of shots on target: Messi ✅
Shots per goal: Messi ✅
Successful dribbles: Messi ✅
Man of the match: Messi ✅
Everything else is debatable as it’s not based on individual performance. The one thing I would say is that CR7 is UCL king but true football fans know who really is the 🐐
Lol only votes I actually count of Ronaldo is Reece James, Xhaka, and Muller. The rest are celebrities, other sportsmen who don't have a clue about football😂 or his teammates. Shows what pr can do.
Easily Messi
Messi small game player, Ronaldo big game player, thats the difference, Ronaldo is clear
@@Masim443 bros so mad commenting this on every comment💀
@@Masim443 clown..The numbers say other wise. Messi owns him head to head. And Messi has more goals in finals.
you can say you like Ronaldo but you can't say Ronaldo is better than Messi because Messi can win MOTM without scoring but Ronaldo can't and also Messi has won most MOTM in football history and has better average match rating tham Ronaldo.
Everyone who choose messi never had to think about it . He's the best to ever play football
to all these people in the comments everytime I talk to a ronaldo fan that is like above the age of like 24-25 that has followed their whole career says that he loves ronaldo but that they are beeing realistic and know the spot as the best player leads to lionel messi
Easy: Messi
Of course Nueur says Messi after he got eviscerated by him in CL semi final.
Bayern never played barca in CL final?
He said Messi bc Ronaldo destroyed him multiple times just like Simeone
I don't understand the Ronaldo pick, he's a great goalscorer but he's not as good as Messi on a football pitch!!!
It’s interesting that most of the non football playing athletes chose Ronaldo over Messi
Messi vs premier top six
36 match 27 goal 6 assist
33 g/a
Cr vs premier league top 6
89 match 36 goal 8 assist
Messi 2 hat trick in 36 game
Cr 1 hat trick in 89 game
Messi 6 brace in 36 game
Cr 5 brace in 89 game
Messi vs top 3 premier league team
22 match 12 goal 5 assist
17 g/a
Cr vs top 3 premier league
46 match 10 goal 3 assist
Messi in elclasico
45 match 26 goal 14 assist
40g/a
Cr in elclasico
30 match 18 goal 1 assist
19g/a
More golden boots
More ballon d'or
Played 120 less match in club
Only 6 goal behind
Plus 100 more assist
In international
Messi vs top 10 team
16 goal
Cr vs top 10 team
14 goal
People picking Ronaldo over Messi represents everything that is wrong with the world. And this is not even an overstatement
Messi was chosen by more diverse people
Ronaldo was mostly picked by either former teammates or the English because he played in England
So Ronaldo should have stayed in La Liga his whole career like Messi did for this to be fair?
Messi small game player, Ronaldo big game player, thats the difference
honestly I don't why people pick ronaldo but am yet to hear an arguement that would prove ronaldo is better cos am super open-minded here
@@dimitryivanov9778 No. Ronaldo just had more bias answers
@Touhami against bayern Munich, juventus,psg,real madrid since 2018,inter Milan,ac milan I never seen him on the pitch
I respect Ronaldo dearly. Respectful player and very hard working individual. He’s also a great character. But any true footballer knows that Messi is one of the best players who ever played football. In my opinion, the best footballers that we have witnessed on TV are Maradona then Messi
Maradona>R9>Messi in prime. CR doesn't even come in conversation
You know what? Most of the footballers went for Messi. Most of the non footballers went for Ronaldo.
It's as simple as that. If you know the game, You know Messi is the GOAT
I have been a big Ronaldo fan for years, but still I'd say Messi is the greatest ever. He is an alien, there is no one like him in this sport.
Messi: 21
CR7: 16
However, all the non-footballers picked CR7 (as far as I noticed).
Chiellini didn't want to get the Gary Neville treatment
Hear what Chellini said after CR went??
I think they have to ask players who didn't played with Messi or Ronaldo
In words of Maradona ''a Cristiano Ronaldo le tienen miedo'' real recognize real.
He was jealous of the real one 😏💯💯💯
Maradona was jealous of Messi for good reason.
Non football personalities voting for Ronaldo....whereas all the legends and top players voting for Messi says it all.
I didn't knew Pele was a non football personality, I swear these fanboys write the most illogical arguments ever.... at least chose one that makes sense
@@goncaloferreira8543 bro 95 percent of the top players prefer messi over ronaldo bcz of his talent.....i didnt say ronaldo is nothing but he is certainly not even close to messi.
most of the players that say Ronaldo because they didn't watch as much football excluding Müller which surprises me
Muller recently said Messi is better in that interview he meant who was better against him
I like ronaldo a lot but it's hard to pick him against messi when messi does everything ronaldo can do but also is a play maker and is still able to dribble passed multiple players
I am MUFC fans. Watching Messi is like watching a football wizard entertaining the fans. Watching Christiano is like watching a football beast scoring goals. Nevertheless, Messi is a little bit better than Christiano with less obsession with social media and commercial exploitation.
Both great! I prefer ronaldo as he has been proven himself to be the more clutch, reliable and versatile goalscorer as well as being able to adapt to many teams. His playmaking abilities are also criminally underrated as he is the best when it comes to the tactical improvement of the team, which includes: breaking defense lines, general off the ball movement like positions etc, creating final pass options and more. Of course he is not that much involved in creation anymore (key passes/chance creation/Assists) but his raw numbers in those categories shows that he still is one of the best playmakers in the creation category.
You must be high on weed while posting this comment I guess. Ronaldo can't do playmaking.. most of his assists are just crosses and deflected shots, lol 😂
WHAT MESSI DOES ON THR BALL IS NOT OF THIS WORLD,WE have seen Haaland replicate what Ronaldo does
Stats wise and advanced stats all say Messi and by a wide margin. Messi in always in the top tier in every attacking aspect of football. Goal scoring, passing, playmaking/creating, dribbling. His numbers on all these aspects will never be replicated by anybody. Theirs never been a player that dominated in all these aspects.
Answer is always Messi, why people even do this?
Does anyone know how the result came out?
Recent survey result, Johan Cruyff and Cristiano Ronaldo join 1st. Zinidine Zidane and Ronaldinho join 2nd. Diego Maradona and Eden Hazard join 3rd. Ronaldo and Kylian Mbappe join 4th. Kaka and Erling Haaland join 5th. 6th Lionel Messi. Thierry Henry and Neymar Jr join 7th. 8th Pele. Roberto Carlos and Luka Modric join 9th. Jurgen Klinsmann and Gianluigi Buffon join 10th
Ronaldo is easily the best, challenged himself in all the top leagues in the world. Messi ran off to play in a farmers league.
Thats why Ronaldo is the most rejected player.. won Dubai Dors