Thank you. It’s so obvious when someone actually has lots of real world experience with a bike or tire or whatever they are reviewing. On my last tour, the only puncture anybody had was my nephews Road 5! I appreciate your observations.
London roads mate. I had puncture issues with all my tyres - Pirelli diablos, Pirelli phantoms, road 4s and road 5s. If you ride every day obviously get a tyre that can cope with a bit of road crap because lorry’s cross the city carrying rubbish like loose screws, nails etc... but I wouldn’t sacrifice the control in wet or cold weather for all the tea in china.... that’s why for me the Michelin Roads are the tyre I trust to prevent me from becoming a meat crayon.
It is a very valid point, I love the Roads so much but I wish they would sort out the puncture issue. Just slightly harder and maybe, just maybe a better result for me that is.
I ride around London for business and out in the sticks down B roads and lanes for pleasure, your urban puncture is usually a screw, nail or shard of glass, out in the sticks it’s flint, razor sharp shards of flint washing on to the lanes off the fields A buddy of mine pulled what appeared to be a Stone Age flint arrow head out of his Road 5
Disclosure - I’m a Metzler guy, always Racetec on my HP4 and past bikes. I have just worn out the Roadtec 01 on my new XR at 3,600m of mostly hard riding and am happy with all round grip and will use them again.. but how anyone is saying they get massive mileage is beyond me, so I’d say don’t count on that! The best mileage I’ve ever had from a tyre by a Country mile is the Pirelli Angel GT2’s on a previous KTM 1290GT (6000!!!! 😳) and they perform well. I did try them on an earlier XR and again big mileage but created an unnerving speed weave above 120mph so darent put them on the new one.
I've answered this question a few times, I don't ride hard and do little motorway miles so don't square off the tyres and also religiously look after the tyre presure. I also ride them right to the end of their life, not saying thst is a good thing its just what I do. I achive high millage on all my tyres bar a bad set of Bridgestones that I tore through in 4k.
I keep going back to your video, purely for the comments. The tussle between the Road 5 and the Roadtec 01's on my R1 is never-ending, but I'm encouraged to read that the Roadtecs have a sportier feel to them. I don't really want to have to adapt my riding too much after the last 3 seasons on S20 and S21s, along with a short sting on T30's. Converting my R1 out from track use to road use now, so my point of reference for sports touring tyres is lost - Last ST's I raved about were the Roadsmarts on my 929, and they're at least a decade old now! I filter loads and the quality of the roads near where I live is passable as a macadam, so puncture resistance and reliability are must for a daily.
I get about 17 000 km on the Michelin and 23 000 km on the Metzeler, and I cannot feel any difference in handeling and grip. I am a passive driver/commuter in sun and rain.
That's got to be the longest route I've seen around bushy park, wonder if I would get so many punctures on a smaller lighter 250 bike with the michelins. Great informative video thanks for making it, agree with the dirty bike theory better dirty than nicked. Cheers from a Molesey Oik.
If you get punctures, look at where you position yourself on the road. If you ride in all the shit in the middle of the road, like when you’re filtering, you’ll get punctures. Same on the inside of the road if you’re going up the inside of the stationary traffic.
I've been using the same pair of PR5s for 2+ years. No punctures. Used to get Pirelli Diablos for summer and use PRs for winter, but the PR5s are good enough for all year road riding. PR4s were weird tho. Carcass was too hard and the front felt really skinny
My record with Road 5’s was three punctures in 3 months, it actually made me paranoid, I thought I’d pissed someone off enough to come and hammer a nail into my rear tyre once a month, a lady I know had three punctures in the same day on her Road 5 rear, there’s a theory that the soles on the front tyre flip up nails and screws to the perfect angle for the rear tyre to catch. There’s no question that aside from this puncture magnet issue they are awesome tyres, I’ve had 3 sets, still use them after going back to Roadtec 01’s for a while BUT I think the most longevity I’ve had is about 8k miles Roadtec 01 also a great tyre, tip ,in quicker than Michelin, my HWM versions didn’t last as long as road 5’s when the central rubber started to wear after about 7k miles I’ve still had puncture issues on the Metzeler and other bike tyre brands but I’m certain that Road 5 attract far more nasty sharp thing at a much higher rate
It’s bizzare. Tyres seem to work better on different bikes. The roadtec 01 was a slightly upgraded tyre for wet weather. The metzler Z8 interact were the ones before the 01 and cane top in the best sports touring tyre in neevseys mcn test review, and Germany’s equivalent. Metzler were also the choice of the IOMTT for many years as they were designed to be on roads. I have never had a better tyre than the Z8. Warms up quick, longevity, instant grip and feedback. I just wonder weather the 01 doesn’t feel the same because the tread is more wet orientated compared to the Z8.
I thought it was just me. PR4, thought I had a puncture because it was leaking from a minor nick in tread, so had it patched. Still leaked. They put a bigger patch on. Still leaked. Then I noticed it leaking from several other places including the join. So I ditched the tyre for fear it was starting to delaminate. Next PR4, got a hefty cut within a few hundred miles, but not down to the cords. It leaks. Experience said check the rest of the tyre, so I smothered it with very soapy water. Hey presto, it leaks from several other locations too. Almost as if neither tyre had been sealed on the inside. I love the grip, but I won’t be buying anymore.
Quite curious how would Road 6 Gt compare to Metzelers. Got bike with Metzerler Roadtec Z8 (not sure how those compare to 01 though) tyres and were quite bad, swapped them for Road 6 GT and it was total transformation of bike. So far I have done about 8k km (about 5k miles) on them with 0 issues. Grip all the way around since moment you sit on bike. I don't push bike at all though, and mostly commuting and relaxing ride after work. Thanks for review and drive safe!
Hi and Thankyou for sharing... I have a set of 01's fitted to my triumph tiger 800xrt. They have covered 7000mls and the rear tyre (centre) is virtually finished. My tiger has tyre pressure monitoring so I've always kept them within range. It's abit odd with these 01'S as I always seem to be adding pressure (front and rear) every couple of months. Never really had to do that with other tyres. Anyway, you get great life from your set, can I ask what bike you ride? (For weight comparisons) I wonder if metzeler make a harder construction rear 01 tyre (like a GT) for heavier bikes like the tiger and heavier sports tourers.. Keep safe buddy 😉
Realy helpful review. I have had 3 sets of pr4 and have had a similar overall impression. Though only 1 puncture. You must be unlucky. As a year round rider I love the Michelins for the all round grip. Though I agree that they fall off at higher temps. But to know there is another option that will perform as well and I can wring a few more miles out of is really helpful.
I had Metzler Tourance Next as the oem fitted to my tiger 800 xrt from new. I never liked the feel of them, but I did keep them for about 7500 miles, they still had a good few thousand miles left but I decided enough was enough, So changed them for Road Pilot 5s. The very first day I got my first ever puncture!!! They are amazingly grippy tyres though......
@@ycymropur Thanks Paul, that does help. Seems the 01 was out of stock when I ordered (after they took my money!) and I ended up getting PR4-GT. I've done 800 on them now (in Yorkshire 😉) and they undoubtedly have good grip in mixed or wet conditions but it feels like the road is made of memory foam. That's the best I can describe it! Perhaps I'll get used to them but I still think I'll be swapping for the Metzeler when the time comes. Don't know if you saw my other post but if anyone offers you a Dunlop GPR300 call them a crook and a pirate and run away.
Michelin Road 5 on my Speed Triple... .Swiss Alps, French Alps, German Autogbahn, Black Forrest every weekend..... Zero Punctures, non. Faultless... over 10,000kms I think. Inspire no end, traction amazing. Stop on a dime.... Only these or maybe the Angel GT II for me but never tried the Angels.
Bought a k1300s with new pr4s on them and got a puncture 3 days after buying the bike so it sounds like its a thing. Then again they still managed 12000km even with a hole in the rear and i haven't had a puncture since.They could probably get another 3-5000km if they were on a lighter bike but i dont want to risk riding with a bad rear tire anymore. Im now deciding what to replace them with.
I only had 1 puncture on my pilot road 4s in about 6k miles weirdly that was very shortly after mounting them too, If I get one more I'm just going to get something called Bike Seal and use that
I think the main problem with the roadtecs is that they are so stiff they don't give that same level of feedback. The feel is slightly better on a heavier bike like my zzr1400. They even managed 11k commuting
Could not agree more, you kinda just have to trust them but when they warm up they are a little better BUT for an all weather tire that isn't always possible.
@@Thunderous71 the cold feedback is even worse. They do still grip even with snow on the ground. I wouldn't reccomened them to a newer rider as you said.
My K13GT has Dunlop GPR300 on. Not my choice, it came with them. They have no stiffness and it feels like I'm riding with low pressures. I've always preferred a stiff carcass and I do cane my Beemer on occasion so I'll definitely be choosing the Met and chasing down some ZZR14s! 😉
Nice video, and comparison. I'm also interested in the Continental Road Attack 3's. Such a shame that we cannot road test tyres for a day or 2 before investing in them.
Same issue with S22 vs M9RR. S22 gets too hot on the most "fun" days, and becomes squishy. And like the Road 5's, they pick up Everything on the ground. My last set of S22 had a Lot of gravel stuck inside the tires. When they get hot, they're basically jello. M9RR is the Only tire I actually trust. I'm going to be testing the Roadtec 01 SE next. Hopefully a mix of the regular Roadtec 01's and the M9RR 's. Have you tries the SE version of the Roadtec 01?
My fried you talk a lot unnecessarily, I have owned them both, 15 set of the Metzler Roadtec 01. One set of Michelins road fives, very grainy, the Metzler are by far superior to the Michelins, and they do not last forever. The maximum mileage is around 6000 miles, I change tires when they are Down to 20% , you could use them more for commuting, but not for aggressive Canyon riding . Sorry if I am abrupt.
I agree. I commute on my bike and I got 2 punctures in the space of 3 months - Michelin Power RS, very similar tyre to the PR5. I absolutely love the grip and I'm not very skilled, just like average maybe. So I'm not sure what to upgrade to. I don't want constant punctures, but I want to keep the grip as close as possible to the Power RS/PR5. Any advise please? Maybe the 01SE?
There is only one motorcycle tire (tyre): Metzeler. That is the only brand I would ride with. Great for cornering, great in wet weather, great grip, great at speed. People need to realize that before they wind up on a compilation video wiping out on a corner because of the wrong tires.
And then you buy a different style bike and you change your opinion of which brand of tyre is, what you consider, the best 🙄 yeah yeah, heard it all before. At the end of the day, like a question that was put up on a Facebook page i read recently, it read 'What pressure does your tyres need to be on a track?'... Well, as you (maybe) can guess, there was no correct answer other than, ', different strokes for different folks, simple', weather, track and air temperature spring to mind, and it all depends on what style of bike you're riding too, a sports bike is a slightly different stance to a sports tourer bike, an adventure bike, a naked bike etc.., it's not just a simple, look in the manual at what they recommend and then set them up like that, that's not the answer and you'll realise that in time when you keep doing it, knowledge is key! Granted, whatever Metzeler tyre you have on this year might be fine, but next year will it be the same on the next version? No, it won't, as you can clearly see that with the Michelin Pilot Road tyres, the 1 & 2s are a bit different design to the 3, 4 & 5s, i think it is, that's just the way technology goes unfortunately, like Windows XP compared to Windows Vista, which was phased out in a year, and now, the preferred system of choice for PCs, Windows 10...they're suited to different people, for years I'd only run Windows 98SE and then XP Pro because it was better for audio production, Windows 2000, Vista and 8 were pants because nobody could be bothered to write decent audio drivers for them... So what you've said is very naive and please nobody pay attention 🙄
@@A_Pt_9298 Not really. Have CB650 (~200kg), ZRX1200(~240kg) and RSV1000R(~180kg), commuting, touring, speed. And all the bikes are armed with Metzelers 01 now. This is the only answer. Very good response, wheather has no impact here. The tyres don't last forever - up to 8-10k km. Michelins are wired to me, seem high end, feel from-very good-to-generic. In good whether they are very good. In bad wheather, well, the generic feel. I drive 10/12 month every year, from 0 to 30+ .C, and the last two seasons - on Metzelers only.
Ride style... and bike. I'm not heavy handed on the wrist much now a days, ride mostly roads ie no motorway riding and ride the tyre to its death. Not saying that's a good think, just being honest.
I'm struggling with choosing between these two tyres on my 2020 R1250R. Price wise the Metzlers win out. I guess it'll come down to the toss of a coin..
Sounds like the Roadtec 01 is the tyre for me. They do the HWM version for heavy bikes and I have a BMW K1300GT. The dealer I bought from fitted Dunlop GPR300 which is an cheap tyre with soft carcass. Moves around on anything. It would be ok on a lighter bike but I need a stiff carcass. I've nearly burnt through the rear in 2000 miles too.
@@jonathansimmons5353 I agree about Dunlop's. 20 years and never a good one. Roadtec was out of stock (everywhere!) So ended up on Pilot Road 4 GT. Undoubtedly great grip I'm mixed/wet conditions but crap feel. Hard to get the pressures feeling right. They seem to have a weird profile too. I can only assume all those Michelin fan boys are pottering around sedately. Not the tyre for me. Shame it's lasting so sodding long!
Wow, how did you get 20k miles from the Roadtecs? My rear only lasted 7k and all I do is commute to work on a FZ6. I don't ride it hard and am not a knee down type of rider. Please tell me your secret 😉
@@Thunderous71 I don't use motorways either, it's solely town and country riding. I guess it will just remain a mystery but methinks there's some alchemy going on somewhere 🤔 🤣
I've never used them so can't comment maybe another viewer can give you their take on them. I would be interested to know also. Being Bridgestone I doubt the millage will be that high but should be good grip in dry and ok in wet.
@@Thunderous71 I live in a warmer weather, Malta to be exact. Temperatures here average between 38 in high Summer to 9 low winter. It's mostly warm though, 24 degrees as we speak, and it’s almost November. I guess Michelin Road 5 isn’t best suited for us here then, given they warm up extra quick and feel gummy in hot weather? Your thoughts?
I had these on the H2, great tyre, but only lasted 5 minutes! I have been using T31GT’s and they’ve been really good. 01SE’s are suppose to be on another level, soon see!!
The most boring review ever. He has no clue about tyres but wants to be an expert. Thinks he is funny and talks about punctures in Michelins’ as if this was tyre specific
Well sorry to burst your bubble but the 5s have now had 3 punctures in 2k miles. So yup it is very specific and a weakness of the brand. If you read the comments your see its not just me.
Thank you. It’s so obvious when someone actually has lots of real world experience with a bike or tire or whatever they are reviewing. On my last tour, the only puncture anybody had was my nephews Road 5! I appreciate your observations.
You sir have great self control observing the speed limit. When I get on my bike something comes over me. I think my bike has a demon 😈 in side of it
London roads mate. I had puncture issues with all my tyres - Pirelli diablos, Pirelli phantoms, road 4s and road 5s. If you ride every day obviously get a tyre that can cope with a bit of road crap because lorry’s cross the city carrying rubbish like loose screws, nails etc... but I wouldn’t sacrifice the control in wet or cold weather for all the tea in china.... that’s why for me the Michelin Roads are the tyre I trust to prevent me from becoming a meat crayon.
It is a very valid point, I love the Roads so much but I wish they would sort out the puncture issue. Just slightly harder and maybe, just maybe a better result for me that is.
I ride around London for business and out in the sticks down B roads and lanes for pleasure, your urban puncture is usually a screw, nail or shard of glass, out in the sticks it’s flint, razor sharp shards of flint washing on to the lanes off the fields
A buddy of mine pulled what appeared to be a Stone Age flint arrow head out of his Road 5
Disclosure - I’m a Metzler guy, always Racetec on my HP4 and past bikes. I have just worn out the Roadtec 01 on my new XR at 3,600m of mostly hard riding and am happy with all round grip and will use them again.. but how anyone is saying they get massive mileage is beyond me, so I’d say don’t count on that! The best mileage I’ve ever had from a tyre by a Country mile is the Pirelli Angel GT2’s on a previous KTM 1290GT (6000!!!! 😳) and they perform well. I did try them on an earlier XR and again big mileage but created an unnerving speed weave above 120mph so darent put them on the new one.
I've answered this question a few times, I don't ride hard and do little motorway miles so don't square off the tyres and also religiously look after the tyre presure. I also ride them right to the end of their life, not saying thst is a good thing its just what I do. I achive high millage on all my tyres bar a bad set of Bridgestones that I tore through in 4k.
I keep going back to your video, purely for the comments. The tussle between the Road 5 and the Roadtec 01's on my R1 is never-ending, but I'm encouraged to read that the Roadtecs have a sportier feel to them. I don't really want to have to adapt my riding too much after the last 3 seasons on S20 and S21s, along with a short sting on T30's. Converting my R1 out from track use to road use now, so my point of reference for sports touring tyres is lost - Last ST's I raved about were the Roadsmarts on my 929, and they're at least a decade old now! I filter loads and the quality of the roads near where I live is passable as a macadam, so puncture resistance and reliability are must for a daily.
I get about 17 000 km on the Michelin and 23 000 km on the Metzeler, and I cannot feel any difference in handeling and grip. I am a passive driver/commuter in sun and rain.
When you say that you got few punctures with the tyre, did you mean that, when it catches a nail, it will puncture itself slowly from then on?
That's got to be the longest route I've seen around bushy park, wonder if I would get so many punctures on a smaller lighter 250 bike with the michelins.
Great informative video thanks for making it, agree with the dirty bike theory better dirty than nicked.
Cheers from a Molesey Oik.
Thanks very much I’ll go for Metzeler as I also ride a lot and have had lots of puncture issues with the pilot roads of different types.
If you get punctures, look at where you position yourself on the road. If you ride in all the shit in the middle of the road, like when you’re filtering, you’ll get punctures. Same on the inside of the road if you’re going up the inside of the stationary traffic.
I've been using the same pair of PR5s for 2+ years. No punctures.
Used to get Pirelli Diablos for summer and use PRs for winter, but the PR5s are good enough for all year road riding.
PR4s were weird tho. Carcass was too hard and the front felt really skinny
My record with Road 5’s was three punctures in 3 months, it actually made me paranoid, I thought I’d pissed someone off enough to come and hammer a nail into my rear tyre once a month, a lady I know had three punctures in the same day on her Road 5 rear, there’s a theory that the soles on the front tyre flip up nails and screws to the perfect angle for the rear tyre to catch.
There’s no question that aside from this puncture magnet issue they are awesome tyres, I’ve had 3 sets, still use them after going back to Roadtec 01’s for a while BUT I think the most longevity I’ve had is about 8k miles
Roadtec 01 also a great tyre, tip ,in quicker than Michelin, my HWM versions didn’t last as long as road 5’s when the central rubber started to wear after about 7k miles
I’ve still had puncture issues on the Metzeler and other bike tyre brands but I’m certain that Road 5 attract far more nasty sharp thing at a much higher rate
It’s bizzare. Tyres seem to work better on different bikes. The roadtec 01 was a slightly upgraded tyre for wet weather. The metzler Z8 interact were the ones before the 01 and cane top in the best sports touring tyre in neevseys mcn test review, and Germany’s equivalent. Metzler were also the choice of the IOMTT for many years as they were designed to be on roads. I have never had a better tyre than the Z8. Warms up quick, longevity, instant grip and feedback. I just wonder weather the 01 doesn’t feel the same because the tread is more wet orientated compared to the Z8.
I have ridden over 8,000ks on my Road 5s with no punctures on Australian hot pavement and gravel roads. Great handling tyres for my CB1300S.
Interesting vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
I thought it was just me. PR4, thought I had a puncture because it was leaking from a minor nick in tread, so had it patched. Still leaked. They put a bigger patch on. Still leaked. Then I noticed it leaking from several other places including the join. So I ditched the tyre for fear it was starting to delaminate. Next PR4, got a hefty cut within a few hundred miles, but not down to the cords. It leaks. Experience said check the rest of the tyre, so I smothered it with very soapy water. Hey presto, it leaks from several other locations too. Almost as if neither tyre had been sealed on the inside. I love the grip, but I won’t be buying anymore.
Thats my take on them, great grip in all conditions but they just attract punctures. Weekend riders tyre.
Quite curious how would Road 6 Gt compare to Metzelers. Got bike with Metzerler Roadtec Z8 (not sure how those compare to 01 though) tyres and were quite bad, swapped them for Road 6 GT and it was total transformation of bike.
So far I have done about 8k km (about 5k miles) on them with 0 issues. Grip all the way around since moment you sit on bike. I don't push bike at all though, and mostly commuting and relaxing ride after work.
Thanks for review and drive safe!
Hi and Thankyou for sharing...
I have a set of 01's fitted to my triumph tiger 800xrt.
They have covered 7000mls and the rear tyre (centre) is virtually finished.
My tiger has tyre pressure monitoring so I've always kept them within range. It's abit odd with these 01'S as I always seem to be adding pressure (front and rear) every couple of months. Never really had to do that with other tyres.
Anyway, you get great life from your set, can I ask what bike you ride? (For weight comparisons)
I wonder if metzeler make a harder construction rear 01 tyre (like a GT) for heavier bikes like the tiger and heavier sports tourers..
Keep safe buddy 😉
Realy helpful review. I have had 3 sets of pr4 and have had a similar overall impression. Though only 1 puncture. You must be unlucky.
As a year round rider I love the Michelins for the all round grip. Though I agree that they fall off at higher temps. But to know there is another option that will perform as well and I can wring a few more miles out of is really helpful.
I had Metzler Tourance Next as the oem fitted to my tiger 800 xrt from new. I never liked the feel of them, but I did keep them for about 7500 miles, they still had a good few thousand miles left but I decided enough was enough, So changed them for Road Pilot 5s. The very first day I got my first ever puncture!!! They are amazingly grippy tyres though......
I love the Metzeler in the wet. They also last the miles. H2 SX SE. So would be hard pushed to try another tyre.
This is good info. My BMW K13GT weighs about the same. Do you have the stiffer HWM version?
@@ycymropur Thanks Paul, that does help. Seems the 01 was out of stock when I ordered (after they took my money!) and I ended up getting PR4-GT. I've done 800 on them now (in Yorkshire 😉) and they undoubtedly have good grip in mixed or wet conditions but it feels like the road is made of memory foam. That's the best I can describe it! Perhaps I'll get used to them but I still think I'll be swapping for the Metzeler when the time comes.
Don't know if you saw my other post but if anyone offers you a Dunlop GPR300 call them a crook and a pirate and run away.
@@ycymropur it still hurts!
I’m just about to put the 01SE’s on my H2SXSE, see how they go👍🏽
@@skts2610 Definitely keep me posted
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Michelin Road 5 on my Speed Triple... .Swiss Alps, French Alps, German Autogbahn, Black Forrest every weekend..... Zero Punctures, non. Faultless... over 10,000kms I think. Inspire no end, traction amazing. Stop on a dime.... Only these or maybe the Angel GT II for me but never tried the Angels.
Bought a k1300s with new pr4s on them and got a puncture 3 days after buying the bike so it sounds like its a thing. Then again they still managed 12000km even with a hole in the rear and i haven't had a puncture since.They could probably get another 3-5000km if they were on a lighter bike but i dont want to risk riding with a bad rear tire anymore. Im now deciding what to replace them with.
I only had 1 puncture on my pilot road 4s in about 6k miles weirdly that was very shortly after mounting them too, If I get one more I'm just going to get something called Bike Seal and use that
I think the main problem with the roadtecs is that they are so stiff they don't give that same level of feedback. The feel is slightly better on a heavier bike like my zzr1400. They even managed 11k commuting
Could not agree more, you kinda just have to trust them but when they warm up they are a little better BUT for an all weather tire that isn't always possible.
@@Thunderous71 the cold feedback is even worse. They do still grip even with snow on the ground. I wouldn't reccomened them to a newer rider as you said.
Thomas Jonesky I have some massive miles on them on the H2 SX SE
My K13GT has Dunlop GPR300 on. Not my choice, it came with them. They have no stiffness and it feels like I'm riding with low pressures. I've always preferred a stiff carcass and I do cane my Beemer on occasion so I'll definitely be choosing the Met and chasing down some ZZR14s! 😉
Nice video, and comparison.
I'm also interested in the Continental Road Attack 3's.
Such a shame that we cannot road test tyres for a day or 2 before investing in them.
Same issue with S22 vs M9RR. S22 gets too hot on the most "fun" days, and becomes squishy. And like the Road 5's, they pick up Everything on the ground. My last set of S22 had a Lot of gravel stuck inside the tires. When they get hot, they're basically jello. M9RR is the Only tire I actually trust. I'm going to be testing the Roadtec 01 SE next. Hopefully a mix of the regular Roadtec 01's and the M9RR 's. Have you tries the SE version of the Roadtec 01?
Not yet on the 01SE but will be my next tyre. Getting insane millage on the Road 5s at the moment.
My fried you talk a lot unnecessarily, I have owned them both, 15 set of the Metzler Roadtec 01. One set of Michelins road fives, very grainy, the Metzler are by far superior to the Michelins, and they do not last forever. The maximum mileage is around 6000 miles, I change tires when they are Down to 20% , you could use them more for commuting, but not for aggressive Canyon riding . Sorry if I am abrupt.
Thanks mate lm after new tyres made me think was going fit pilot 5s not now
They good tyres just not for the city. Roadtecho1s may be an option.
I agree. I commute on my bike and I got 2 punctures in the space of 3 months - Michelin Power RS, very similar tyre to the PR5. I absolutely love the grip and I'm not very skilled, just like average maybe. So I'm not sure what to upgrade to. I don't want constant punctures, but I want to keep the grip as close as possible to the Power RS/PR5. Any advise please? Maybe the 01SE?
There is only one motorcycle tire (tyre): Metzeler. That is the only brand I would ride with. Great for cornering, great in wet weather, great grip, great at speed. People need to realize that before they wind up on a compilation video wiping out on a corner because of the wrong tires.
And then you buy a different style bike and you change your opinion of which brand of tyre is, what you consider, the best 🙄 yeah yeah, heard it all before. At the end of the day, like a question that was put up on a Facebook page i read recently, it read 'What pressure does your tyres need to be on a track?'... Well, as you (maybe) can guess, there was no correct answer other than, ', different strokes for different folks, simple', weather, track and air temperature spring to mind, and it all depends on what style of bike you're riding too, a sports bike is a slightly different stance to a sports tourer bike, an adventure bike, a naked bike etc.., it's not just a simple, look in the manual at what they recommend and then set them up like that, that's not the answer and you'll realise that in time when you keep doing it, knowledge is key! Granted, whatever Metzeler tyre you have on this year might be fine, but next year will it be the same on the next version? No, it won't, as you can clearly see that with the Michelin Pilot Road tyres, the 1 & 2s are a bit different design to the 3, 4 & 5s, i think it is, that's just the way technology goes unfortunately, like Windows XP compared to Windows Vista, which was phased out in a year, and now, the preferred system of choice for PCs, Windows 10...they're suited to different people, for years I'd only run Windows 98SE and then XP Pro because it was better for audio production, Windows 2000, Vista and 8 were pants because nobody could be bothered to write decent audio drivers for them... So what you've said is very naive and please nobody pay attention 🙄
@@A_Pt_9298 Metzeler. 'Nuff said but thanks for your input Mr. Dunlop dealer.
@@A_Pt_9298 Not really. Have CB650 (~200kg), ZRX1200(~240kg) and RSV1000R(~180kg), commuting, touring, speed. And all the bikes are armed with Metzelers 01 now. This is the only answer. Very good response, wheather has no impact here. The tyres don't last forever - up to 8-10k km. Michelins are wired to me, seem high end, feel from-very good-to-generic. In good whether they are very good. In bad wheather, well, the generic feel. I drive 10/12 month every year, from 0 to 30+ .C, and the last two seasons - on Metzelers only.
After 7/8 pais no more Michelin for me
2/3 thousand and it's looks like triangle
To soft compound
No more miles left in them
how the hell you get 20.000 miles out of a set of roadtec I can only just get 3.500miles
Ride style... and bike. I'm not heavy handed on the wrist much now a days, ride mostly roads ie no motorway riding and ride the tyre to its death. Not saying that's a good think, just being honest.
I'm struggling with choosing between these two tyres on my 2020 R1250R.
Price wise the Metzlers win out. I guess it'll come down to the toss of a coin..
Get the Michelins... better than the 01s in my opinion... R5s give way better dry grip, a little better in the wet and cold.
Sounds like the Roadtec 01 is the tyre for me. They do the HWM version for heavy bikes and I have a BMW K1300GT. The dealer I bought from fitted Dunlop GPR300 which is an cheap tyre with soft carcass. Moves around on anything. It would be ok on a lighter bike but I need a stiff carcass. I've nearly burnt through the rear in 2000 miles too.
dunlop are not worth fitting.
never had a good set- ever in 30 years. i change immediately, and sell on if still good .
@@jonathansimmons5353 I agree about Dunlop's. 20 years and never a good one. Roadtec was out of stock (everywhere!) So ended up on Pilot Road 4 GT. Undoubtedly great grip I'm mixed/wet conditions but crap feel. Hard to get the pressures feeling right. They seem to have a weird profile too. I can only assume all those Michelin fan boys are pottering around sedately. Not the tyre for me. Shame it's lasting so sodding long!
Wow, how did you get 20k miles from the Roadtecs? My rear only lasted 7k and all I do is commute to work on a FZ6. I don't ride it hard and am not a knee down type of rider. Please tell me your secret 😉
Same rider as me but I also do no motorway riding. Tiss all I can say.
@@Thunderous71 I don't use motorways either, it's solely town and country riding. I guess it will just remain a mystery but methinks there's some alchemy going on somewhere 🤔 🤣
Would you consider Bridgestone S22's?
I've never used them so can't comment maybe another viewer can give you their take on them. I would be interested to know also. Being Bridgestone I doubt the millage will be that high but should be good grip in dry and ok in wet.
@@Thunderous71 I live in a warmer weather, Malta to be exact. Temperatures here average between 38 in high Summer to 9 low winter. It's mostly warm though, 24 degrees as we speak, and it’s almost November. I guess Michelin Road 5 isn’t best suited for us here then, given they warm up extra quick and feel gummy in hot weather? Your thoughts?
I'd agree, not a hot weather tyre.
I had these on the H2, great tyre, but only lasted 5 minutes!
I have been using T31GT’s and they’ve been really good. 01SE’s are suppose to be on another level, soon see!!
Metzeler has admitted that the O1s are inferior to the 5s as they have recently launched the 01SE that mimic the 5s in construction.
Metzeler said their tyres are inferior to Michelin? you got a link to that?
pffffff bullshit
I can't get more than 3000 miles out of metzler 01 Roadtecs. I'm on my second pair a little past 3000 miles, and they are already squared off again.
Do you do a lot of motorway / A roads riding ?
10000 miles???...
The most boring review ever. He has no clue about tyres but wants to be an expert. Thinks he is funny and talks about punctures in Michelins’ as if this was tyre specific
Well sorry to burst your bubble but the 5s have now had 3 punctures in 2k miles. So yup it is very specific and a weakness of the brand. If you read the comments your see its not just me.
Agreed there all 2 ply tires & if debree is going in one tire & puncturing certainly going to do the same ... on the other .... ridicules