@@Zonic7777 I had a scuf that I bought from GameStop. The scuf vantage has major stick drift in just 2 weeks and it happened on 2 different units. This wasn't too long ago so the second return I ended up just using the money to pre-order the Astro. And it's been great for the few days I've had it. Not sure how well it'll hold up but it's nice that you could swap the joysticks if they wear out in the future
Marissa LovesMusik I tried trading mine in 😂😂 the scuf vantage for ME is a little cluttered. I have big hands and it feel like I’m always bumping buttons on accident with the Scuf Vantage.
Been looking forward to this controller since it was announced before I even knew about your channel, been watching for the past month and all I can say is thank God I found you
Doubt it would happen but would be great to have. Pc has soooooooo soooooo many different buttons to program and different mouses......mice? Dk and the mouse has buttons on it lol.
I'm waiting that programmable back buttons or paddles will become standard in 3rd party controllers. I won't buy a PRO controller just for that, I don't care about the "premium" quality (=make the controller heavier to hold). They're really just trivial to implement, I don't get why no cheap peripheral manufacturer still has tried, being the first one it will sell truckloads of controllers.
I love the replaceable sticks, I always thought the dual shock's sticks were too long and would always prefer something that feels more like the switch pro controller
The fact that you can open the front and change the joystick mechanism as a whole is interesting. As a fps player and sports game player all my controllers have had issues with the left joystick. Sprinting not working, the movement not being consistent. Just depends on how much is a replacement joystick. The problem in the normal controller isn't the joystick itself but the underlying mechanism that breaks for clicking L3.
I love the style of these videos and theres so much detail that goes into it. However, in this particular category I question Kevin's "review" like comments and how he can even recommend the scuf vantage at all when there's millions of bad reviews on it and nightmare customer issues. Not saying Astro has no issues (we don't know yet) but not sure how you can say pick scuf vantage at all and say that the model is cheaper of the three when it's the same price for all the wireless models.
Xbox controllers are easily the worst controllers my hands have touched, and I have played with that horrible nintendo 64 controller. But I have tried the Scuff and the Razor before and they have nothing in common with the Xbox controller they are great they feel great they perform great wich is the opposite of an Xbox controller that needs batteries and has surfaces too smooth, so smooth that it literally slides off your hands.
The Scuf Vantage is not the most affordable of the three. The baseline color cost just as much as the Astro C40, and if you want to get it in another color wave it cost $30 more.
Baneful Badger yeah but I’ve always only seen bad reviews on all scufs so I’m scared to waste money on it the Astro c40 looks like it wouldn’t break in years
Razlo I agree, I got the vantage when it came out and it had a ton of problems, HOWEVER they did a firmware update and made it literally flawless. its been the most durable controller ive owned, and I have had a scuf infinity 4ps too, that was ehhh but I must say since the update the vantage is phenomenal except the price
Kevin would you recommend it over using a Brook adapter on my Xbox One Elite controller when I play my PS4? I want to buy it a Astro controller since they are my headset of choice but I don't play my PS4 enough to pull the trigger and also I feel that it still won't be as good as the Xbox Elite controller
I own the Vantage. And I recently just got the Astro controller. And I have to say the Astro controller is waaaay better in functionality. It responds so fast and accurate. I've been enjoying it much. If you have good control over your sticks. You will do wonders with the Astro Controller.
I don't know how you can comment on the Raiju being a viable choice when, in it's current form, there are so many problems with it. I've bought two of them and returned both of them because of their problems. They were virtually unuseable. It's a shame, because the Raiju's build quality is amazing. I ordered an Astro C40 and it's arriving tomorrow. I'm pretty excited.
Marvel? I bought an Astro A50 wireless headset for like $350 and what a waste! (The thing had serious issues; would get stuck-on with low volume and you couldn't turn it-off or adjust the sound) *You literally could only use it once or twice, before needing to let the thing die and recharge. (Then after a few months the flimsy charger it came with stopped working, got a new charger and it was an internal headset issue) Needless to say my Astro A50's are in the Trash and I never plan on buying Astro again. (Not a Premium Product) *Great HOLD MUSIC if you call Customer-service though, the que was irksome, but I was laughing too hard at all the Dubstep & Techno Hold-music to really take much notice. -No Customer service, wasn't particularly helpful; spent a premium to get told I'm shit out of luck, get-fucked! (Not those exact words)
@@wbucrash6492 Yeah, but Astro would need to Win me back over, I wasted so much money on one of their products that turned out to be way worse than a much cheaper turtle beach- They wanna give me a Free Headset or Controller for Review I'd take em into consideration, If it worked well and performed good, but I'm not spending more money in the hopes of getting Fucked over by Astro again... You know!
For half the price you can get an XB1 controller & brook adapter for PS4. It connects directly to the XB1 controller, works wirelessly, turns on the PS4 & you can voice chat. Is it a "Pro" controller? No but it's another option if you're just looking for something other than the DS4.
If it was this expensive, are the buttons also customizable so you can remove the PS4 buttons to Xbox or Nintendo format so you can use it for any console or even PC?
This. I'm surprised Kevin keeps talking about and recommending the Raiju without ever talking about the issues people have with it. I had the TE and was plagued with stick drift, lag and inaccurate stick motions, and plenty of other people had the same problem. I eventually returned mine after 3 firmware updates not fixing the problems.
I've found that while experimenting with the different sticks I broke the function of the left stick where it wouldn't run when I clicked in in I fixed it by swapping the sticks and works but I'm really disappointed it broke so easily and there's now a clicking sound coming from that stick when moved all the way to the outside in any direction but it doesn't seem to affect gameplay also disappointed while the controller is plugged in hitting the home button doesn't turn on the ps4 I have to hit the power button on the console, I've also found that it is really easy to hit the under buttons accidentally it seems that they're so sensitive you don't actually have to depress them for it to register a press just a slight wrong finger placement and it'll register
As for cost, I have gone through 3 ps4 controllers in a year, is it worth the cost yes. Because the analog stick on the ps4 continually goes bad and pulls, where if that would happen with the C40 I can adjust through the settings the pull, bringing it back and fixing the issue myself
You should have mentioned one of the MAJOR benefits of having that modular design... other modded controllers always end up having issues with the analog sticks drifting. If that happens with the C40, you just buy another analog and fix the issue immediately. And it will probably only cost around $20. I have to send my scuf impact in, pay for shipping, and wait for an estimate. Then if I approve, it could take up to 8 weeks to get it back. And I paid over $200 for the damn thing.
@Mario M It's not just the stick. The entire analog module is removable in addition to the stick. That's why you can swap the analog and dpad positions to your liking.
With PS5 releasing next year, this is a no-go. It’s a quality product, but the last time they would’ve gotten my $199 would be 2-3 years after launch, not 6.
Just want to point out that every button is reprogrammable on the fly not just the two on the back and is super easy to do. Also he omitted the fact that the dongle is included rather than using Bluetooth because it is a much faster and more efficient connection speed than Bluetooth is capable of. Wireless with the dongle is less than a 5ms delay which is practically the same as going wired. I don't know the wireless specs for the scuff or razor but that's a huge deal I think he missed out on discussing. Personally I'm loving the controller so far.
I've had my eye on this for ages but my only concern is that this generation is nearly over so my big question would be will it be compatible with ps5 without loss of functionality of the ps5 controller. Won't know this till it's unveiled though so I'm going to wait.
Forgive my ignorance.... but with the controller being able to be programmed via a PC..... will this be compatible with the PS5 when it comes out...?? Cos I'd love one but I ain't paying that amount when I might only get a year or so out of it.
Astro needs to push this concept further by making the buttons from the upper right customizable, so these can swap locations with the upper left's d-pad/stick; this way, it could be the first professional controller reliable for both right-handed and left-handed players.
That is actually ergonomically the optimal way to lay out a controller as it puts the least strain on your fingers. Especially if you can have the buttons on a paddle instead of a face button and thus never even have to move your fingers off the sticks. I play claw so it's counter-intuitive to me but if a controller had that layout and paddles I would totally use it.
I'm so over my vantage I can't wait to pickup this astro controller. I loved my scuf impact but it wore out after two years. Even after the firmware update I still feel the vantage isn't as responsive as it should be.
I was really looking forward to buy this beauty, but I mainly play fighting games so I'm pretty unsure about it now :( Can another C40 TR owner confirm that the dpad is worse(harder to press) than the DS4?
How does this compare to the XB1 Elite though, is the real question. Cause I do plan on using this for my PC as well, and just having one choice for either would be preferable.
Is the range of motion for the sticks smaller than the other controllers? I've heave the range of motion is smaller, basically the ring around the sticks that limit the range of motion of the sticks is smaller.
To clarify you can reprogram any button with the controller just press the back button for a few seconds until it rumbles then press the button you want re programmed then the one you want it to be.
I've been waiting for reviews for the Astro C40 TR to see if it's worth purchasing, after being on the search for a high end controller and purchasing the Scuf Vantage and the Razer Raiju Ultimate. With both of them I've had multiple stick drift issues, and been through the process of firmware updating and returns to factory. Even exchanges for new ones. And after all that, the Vantage is going back for a total refund and the Raiju Ultimate was completely fixed. Now it works as it was intended to, but it has been a royal pain. The only thing I will miss from the Vantage are the buttons and paddle layouts, specially the new side ones (sax buttons), but the Raiju Ultimate (once you get used to their layout) is pretty darn good. One thing that stands out for me to choose between them, is the symmetrical (Razer Raiju Ultimate) vs the offset (Scuf Vantage) sticks. I definitely prefer the symmetrical stick configuration. I guess I will wait a whole lot more to see if the Astro C40 TR will be the one to beat the Razer Raiju Ultimate I own,
As someone who regularly wears out the analog sensors on the sticks (especially for sprint) I like the sound of being able to buy a new analog stick module rather than a whole new controller 🤔
Thank you for talking about the actual feel of the controller instead of JUST the features (like you did with the vantage cough cough) although I do wish you had described the face buttons a little more. This controller looks SO GOOD , and with The modular design, we might be able to get stuff like snes style or sega style dpads, or even 3ds style thumb sticks! (not that you'd want that but still...) The possibilitys are endless!
A Dongle means a no go for me. Means I can't turn on the PS4 with it, and that's a modern convenience I'm not willing to give up. Especially not for that much. Sigh. Hopefully the next generation of PS controller have paddles or alternate buttons for non pro/competitive players. I just think having a couple buttons on the bottom of my controller is nice. I have a Switch controller that was $45 that has that feature, is it so much to ask for a PS4 controller to have that as well?
What's the point of adding buttons to the back if we can't use them as unique buttons?! I want a controller for PC with more buttons that doesn't break easily (looking at you, Xbox One Elite controller with 90 day warranty).
Controllers aren't meant for PC and if you're using a controller on PC you should really just learn the Steam controller, it takes some getting used to but it's by far the best PC controller and the customization is next level. The point to these are to reduce movement between sticks and face buttons, which improves response time and reduces strain. It's meant to make face buttons easier to access.
Anyone else getting an audio issue with it after long term use? People cant hear me after a few hours and I dont know when it happens. It's basically like being muted without knowing and they've had to tell me 3 times already that they cant hear me. Every time i had to unplug and replug in my mic.
@@cured_bacon647 back in the early to mid 2000s, official PlayStation magazine gave us that bit of information. The buttons are literally 1, 2, 3, 4. While a circle isn't a line, it is drawn in one continuous motion. Does that make better sense?
I recently grabbed a Brook X One from Amazon for $50 and put it on the Xbox One Elite controller I which I got on a significant sale awhile back. So far, it's been working great, and is also compatible with my Switch (although I haven't tried it yet). Even adding up the full cost for these two items, you'd save roughly $25. That said, if the main thing you want out of a PS4 controller is an Xbox One-like stick layout (like I was), then you could get a Brook X One and a regular Xbox controller and then be about $100 ahead on getting a C40/Scuf/Raiju. Not saying that these three controllers aren't good, I'm sure they're great, just wanted to point out another great option out there, especially if you have an Xbox controller already. That said, I have a severe gizmo and gadget buying problem, so I still want to try out this C40, and so I certainly can't fault somebody else from wanting to do the same!
The CT40 has a mix between the Regular PS4 Controller and the XB1 Controller. Not in terms of layout, but that it combines the XB1 Elite set with the PS4 Programming and Remapping Software. Good overall with Physical and Soft/Hardware Aspects.
I had to return astro c40 because in my personal experience, I did keep accidentally pressing the back buttons only because of the way I hold my controller (personal problem). I had to somewhat change the way I hold the controller, in order to hit the back buttons comfortably. During gaming and after gaming my marriage finger and pinky finger will feel sore/achy because of the way I had hold it. Overall it is a great controller, so don't get me wrong. It has no lag when in wireless mode, nice grip, it has some weight, swappable d pad and analog sticks, trigger stoppers, the button remapping mode for back buttons is easy, and the two different profiles for different button layouts. The only cons I found is that while in wireless mode, it doesn't show how much battery it has when you hold the PS button, the motion keyboard sensor doesn't work, and the controller in wire or wireless mode won't power on the Ps4/Ps4 pro.
OK I just have one question and I really hope you get back with me bro do you think that its future proofed like will this work when the PS 5 comes out Cause I hate to buy this controller and then a year from now or this year the PS 5 come out and I can't use this $200 controller with it
Need some help guys. Idk its it's just mine but on the right stick when moving to the right it's way slower then when moving to the left. I havent tested another game yet but I'm having this issue
Problem with the Raiju is its reliability. It's not available in the US because it's overwhelmingly buggy and Sony apparently wont allow it to be sold here. Razer has yet to catch up to all of the complaints about the controller either not working or having really bad stick drift on the right stick. It's a shame because it looks like it would be a very nice feeling controller and probably would have been my first choice if it wasn't for those issues. I'm hoping the C40 isn't as disappointing.
-Astro : hey PlayStation do you want the default layout or Xbox layout?
-PlayStation : yes
Screw that I'm just swapping them all out with dpads
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SameMan6 yes
What u mene yes
* -astro: Sony, so what are you going to choose?*
* -Sony: Thank you.*
Yeesh, $200? I'll just continue to kick people's ass with my regular controller
Zack Attack but.......you could be a GOD with this controller lol!!
Lol my scuf impact cost me $275 😂😂😂
Darien Domon DAMN!!! 😂😂😂 mine was $200 from GameStop. You must’ve picked it up when it FIRST dropped huh?
@@DJ_Rythmixx you bought a scuf at gamestop?
Darien Domon yea! It was only $200 lol!! The Scuf Vantage
It's more expensive than a pre-owned ps4.
Lmao for real
idk where you're getting your preowned ps4's but the ones from GameStop sell for $276
@@vampgurl003 I'm guessing he means from online, OfferUp or Craiglist and not retailers
@@Mike01029 okay yeah that makes sense
Marissa LovesMusik dude that’s way more expensive than a new ps4 slim with deal. Got mine 2yrs ago, brand new, $250.
Honestly, at work, we recommend people the c40 when we notice them looking at the scuff bc the scuff is the most returned controller at GameStop
What about battle beaver?
@@rico989 we don't sell them so I honestly don't know much about it
What are the most common scuf problems ?
@@Zonic7777 I had a scuf that I bought from GameStop. The scuf vantage has major stick drift in just 2 weeks and it happened on 2 different units. This wasn't too long ago so the second return I ended up just using the money to pre-order the Astro. And it's been great for the few days I've had it. Not sure how well it'll hold up but it's nice that you could swap the joysticks if they wear out in the future
Marissa LovesMusik I tried trading mine in 😂😂 the scuf vantage for ME is a little cluttered. I have big hands and it feel like I’m always bumping buttons on accident with the Scuf Vantage.
Been looking forward to this controller since it was announced before I even knew about your channel, been watching for the past month and all I can say is thank God I found you
Anyone else would like to see Sony's ps5 controller have extra buttons and have adjustable triggers.
Doubt it would happen but would be great to have. Pc has soooooooo soooooo many different buttons to program and different mouses......mice? Dk and the mouse has buttons on it lol.
Pc.
I'm waiting that programmable back buttons or paddles will become standard in 3rd party controllers. I won't buy a PRO controller just for that, I don't care about the "premium" quality (=make the controller heavier to hold).
They're really just trivial to implement, I don't get why no cheap peripheral manufacturer still has tried, being the first one it will sell truckloads of controllers.
That would make the controller a lot more expensive
@@legendarynhgaming7063 and better
I love the replaceable sticks, I always thought the dual shock's sticks were too long and would always prefer something that feels more like the switch pro controller
Yes
are you pryocynicals dad from prison
@@fadekonno257 mmm
You can mod the ps4 controller for around 15 bucks with magnetic sticks from Ebay. Just make sure you know how to disassemble your controller first.
Dad plz come back from the grocery store it's been 10 years
Its nothing against my *Soulja Controller*
Oh shit those are exclusive
Yeah them things r top of the line wish I could afford anything Soulja .
the analogue stick of that controller is more expensive than the PS4 pro
@@justrcd what you mean the dust in the box cost more then all of our lives out together
Damnnn. Soulja controller needs nerf
Even though i'm not a PS guy i still think this is an INSANE CONTROLLER!
It's really not..
Darien Domon and you’re a twat...
Darien Domon you’re probably just jealous
LOGAN GAMER They were talking to Darien...
Its super good im obsessed with it!
The fact that you can open the front and change the joystick mechanism as a whole is interesting.
As a fps player and sports game player all my controllers have had issues with the left joystick. Sprinting not working, the movement not being consistent.
Just depends on how much is a replacement joystick.
The problem in the normal controller isn't the joystick itself but the underlying mechanism that breaks for clicking L3.
You forgot the Nacon Revolution Pro 2 controller in your comparison of PS4 Pro controllers. It’s okay people sleep on it all the time.
Doughboy BJ it’s because the nacon is a hot piece of shit lol
They sleep on it because first it's a PoS Nacon, and second who the fuck wants a controller that feels like an garbage Xbone joypad...
Nacon is great did you guys ever try it i thaught the same thing bevor
@@fettspalte6552 I have tried it, ANY controller with staggered analog sticks is absolute crap...
I've been saving up for this controller to actually buy today! I can't wait to get off work to go pick it up.
you have some legit crispy footage
I don’t even have a ps4 nor do I want one yet I still find myself entertained by these videos. Keep it up Kevin!
Next gen should have changeable button layouts and more customisation on where they are on the controller. (I need the Wii U pro controller back plz).
Dev kit does not show changeable buttons but shows a touchscreen
I love the style of these videos and theres so much detail that goes into it. However, in this particular category I question Kevin's "review" like comments and how he can even recommend the scuf vantage at all when there's millions of bad reviews on it and nightmare customer issues. Not saying Astro has no issues (we don't know yet) but not sure how you can say pick scuf vantage at all and say that the model is cheaper of the three when it's the same price for all the wireless models.
When you buy a 200$ controller but still bad in the game😝
Wait why is my like button blue??
Because you're bad with mouse/touchscreen too ;)
you said the concave sticks which are actually the convex sticks and the concave ones are the ones with the "indent"
Any skateboarder would know the difference between concave and convex am I right?
Facts! I noticed too.
All these “pro” controllers just look like Xbox controllers the normal ps4 controller feels great as it is
yeah ikr. I've tried both ps4 and xbox and ps4 just feels much better. I have no idea why all these controllers are modeled after the xbox ones.
@@jacoblanghorne1004 because it is better for People with bigger hands
Because xbox is better for small hands and big hands
jugador I guess I just have medium hands
Xbox controllers are easily the worst controllers my hands have touched, and I have played with that horrible nintendo 64 controller. But I have tried the Scuff and the Razor before and they have nothing in common with the Xbox controller they are great they feel great they perform great wich is the opposite of an Xbox controller that needs batteries and has surfaces too smooth, so smooth that it literally slides off your hands.
Kevin do a video on the nacon revolution unlimited pro controller which released recently
Yup waiting know about the nacon revolution unlimited pro too
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That's how we already know winter's here. My dawg will probably do it for a Louis belt
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@@henryjohnson1396 BLAH UH BLAH
made this in with all the ice all in the booth
I got hoes calling a young niggas phone
Where’s Ali with the mother fuckin dope
At the gate outside HOLD up let's get the loot
The Scuf Vantage is not the most affordable of the three. The baseline color cost just as much as the Astro C40, and if you want to get it in another color wave it cost $30 more.
Baneful Badger yeah but I’ve always only seen bad reviews on all scufs so I’m scared to waste money on it the Astro c40 looks like it wouldn’t break in years
the scuf vantage was the biggest waste of money i have ever spent i do NOT recommend buying it.
I had two vantages in a month. I loved the functionality of the 4 paddles and 2 extra buttons bug I got stick drift on both of them.
Razlo I agree, I got the vantage when it came out and it had a ton of problems, HOWEVER they did a firmware update and made it literally flawless. its been the most durable controller ive owned, and I have had a scuf infinity 4ps too, that was ehhh but I must say since the update the vantage is phenomenal except the price
@@razlo3690 I completely agree
I’ve been wanting one for sooo long now. I’ve seen the trailer and I’ve been dreaming of having one. Glad you enjoy the controller
Kevin would you recommend it over using a Brook adapter on my Xbox One Elite controller when I play my PS4? I want to buy it a Astro controller since they are my headset of choice but I don't play my PS4 enough to pull the trigger and also I feel that it still won't be as good as the Xbox Elite controller
What should I do? I’m in the same problem like you. I don’t know what to get an Xbox Elite Controller or the Astro C40 for my ps4 . Any tips
Hi Kevin i have a question.
It is possible to use 3 analog sticks thumbs in same time?
Artur Vögele yes it’s possible. You could have 3 d-pads if you’d like
@@cured_bacon647 i want 3 thumbsticks no digi pads, 1 thumbstick simulate digipad
You know that d pad stands for directional pad right? Not digi pad...
@@D_2_da_K87 ah okay thanks;)
@@AV-gs4mf no worries :)
I own the Vantage. And I recently just got the Astro controller. And I have to say the Astro controller is waaaay better in functionality. It responds so fast and accurate. I've been enjoying it much. If you have good control over your sticks. You will do wonders with the Astro Controller.
I don't know how you can comment on the Raiju being a viable choice when, in it's current form, there are so many problems with it. I've bought two of them and returned both of them because of their problems. They were virtually unuseable. It's a shame, because the Raiju's build quality is amazing. I ordered an Astro C40 and it's arriving tomorrow. I'm pretty excited.
Just got this today. It feels really nice in the hands. Your fingers naturally rest on the back buttons.
How are u finding the buttons? They sticking a bit like he said ?
Greg not sticky at all. He’s the first I’ve heard that said the button’s are sticky
I will tell you this is by far the best video on or about the Astro c40 controller.Fantasic
Wish I had the money to afford this marvel...
Marvel? I bought an Astro A50 wireless headset for like $350 and what a waste!
(The thing had serious issues; would get stuck-on with low volume and you couldn't turn it-off or adjust the sound)
*You literally could only use it once or twice, before needing to let the thing die and recharge.
(Then after a few months the flimsy charger it came with stopped working, got a new charger and it was an internal headset issue)
Needless to say my Astro A50's are in the Trash and I never plan on buying Astro again. (Not a Premium Product)
*Great HOLD MUSIC if you call Customer-service though, the que was irksome,
but I was laughing too hard at all the Dubstep & Techno Hold-music to really take much notice.
-No Customer service, wasn't particularly helpful;
spent a premium to get told I'm shit out of luck, get-fucked! (Not those exact words)
Unholykill3 That’s just your opinion.
@@frozengamer3030 The Dude: Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
@@wbucrash6492 Yeah, but Astro would need to Win me back over, I wasted so much money on one of their products that turned out to be way worse than a much cheaper turtle beach- They wanna give me a Free Headset or Controller for Review I'd take em into consideration, If it worked well and performed good, but I'm not spending more money in the hopes of getting Fucked over by Astro again... You know!
Unholykill3 The a50s are ridiculous. I would’ve went with the hyperx cloud flight. They’re like 150 bucks and they’re amazing.
For half the price you can get an XB1 controller & brook adapter for PS4. It connects directly to the XB1 controller, works wirelessly, turns on the PS4 & you can voice chat. Is it a "Pro" controller? No but it's another option if you're just looking for something other than the DS4.
Bought it the very first day it came out and i love it best purchase of my life
Gonna get me one tomorrow looks fire 🔥
Amazing fucking controller love it so much
If it was this expensive, are the buttons also customizable so you can remove the PS4 buttons to Xbox or Nintendo format so you can use it for any console or even PC?
Dont buy the scuf vantage or the razer ones. I've had both. The lag and drift is really bad. I havent tried the scuf infinity or impact though
@dennylafoss Yeah, I've seen a lot of people making videos complaining about the scuf vantage
This. I'm surprised Kevin keeps talking about and recommending the Raiju without ever talking about the issues people have with it. I had the TE and was plagued with stick drift, lag and inaccurate stick motions, and plenty of other people had the same problem. I eventually returned mine after 3 firmware updates not fixing the problems.
dennylafoss that’s what I was scared of they are not reliable
dennylafoss don’t u wish Sony make their own one
@@o1swftt lol is that why I'm returning my second vantage tomorrow?
I've found that while experimenting with the different sticks I broke the function of the left stick where it wouldn't run when I clicked in in I fixed it by swapping the sticks and works but I'm really disappointed it broke so easily and there's now a clicking sound coming from that stick when moved all the way to the outside in any direction but it doesn't seem to affect gameplay also disappointed while the controller is plugged in hitting the home button doesn't turn on the ps4 I have to hit the power button on the console, I've also found that it is really easy to hit the under buttons accidentally it seems that they're so sensitive you don't actually have to depress them for it to register a press just a slight wrong finger placement and it'll register
The wireless Scuf Vantage was actually more than the Astro C40
Wut? The Vantage wireless/wired launched at $200 too. Only cost more if you get a one with a different faceplate than the stock one.
Scuff is 180 wired, 200 wireless
That Scuf Vantage is JUNK! I have both the Astro C40 is far superior in every way
@@Dame77090 just less buttons.
Dame Dizzle no it wasn’t. I have both. They cost the same.
I got one, and I am loving it. Day 4 of having it, feels natural as a controller.
As for cost, I have gone through 3 ps4 controllers in a year, is it worth the cost yes. Because the analog stick on the ps4 continually goes bad and pulls, where if that would happen with the C40 I can adjust through the settings the pull, bringing it back and fixing the issue myself
You should have mentioned one of the MAJOR benefits of having that modular design... other modded controllers always end up having issues with the analog sticks drifting. If that happens with the C40, you just buy another analog and fix the issue immediately. And it will probably only cost around $20. I have to send my scuf impact in, pay for shipping, and wait for an estimate. Then if I approve, it could take up to 8 weeks to get it back. And I paid over $200 for the damn thing.
@Mario M It's not just the stick. The entire analog module is removable in addition to the stick. That's why you can swap the analog and dpad positions to your liking.
Your productions and cinematography are outstanding. Keep up the good work!
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With PS5 releasing next year, this is a no-go. It’s a quality product, but the last time they would’ve gotten my $199 would be 2-3 years after launch, not 6.
It'll surely work cross-gen like their newer headsets do... I hope.
Just want to point out that every button is reprogrammable on the fly not just the two on the back and is super easy to do. Also he omitted the fact that the dongle is included rather than using Bluetooth because it is a much faster and more efficient connection speed than Bluetooth is capable of. Wireless with the dongle is less than a 5ms delay which is practically the same as going wired. I don't know the wireless specs for the scuff or razor but that's a huge deal I think he missed out on discussing. Personally I'm loving the controller so far.
The razer is wired only so no wireless there.
I've had my eye on this for ages but my only concern is that this generation is nearly over so my big question would be will it be compatible with ps5 without loss of functionality of the ps5 controller. Won't know this till it's unveiled though so I'm going to wait.
RavenCrossguard exactly if I’m dropping half the price of my PS4 on a controller I wanna make sure the PS5 ain’t gonna release next year.
Finally an actual review of this controller!
Forgive my ignorance.... but with the controller being able to be programmed via a PC..... will this be compatible with the PS5 when it comes out...?? Cos I'd love one but I ain't paying that amount when I might only get a year or so out of it.
Astro needs to push this concept further by making the buttons from the upper right customizable, so these can swap locations with the upper left's d-pad/stick; this way, it could be the first professional controller reliable for both right-handed and left-handed players.
It also has the potential to change the face and do stuff like add extra buttons down the line as well.
It would be so sick if you could switch the face buttons and right stick to have the Wii U pro controller feel. That’s my favorite controller layout.
you can
That is actually ergonomically the optimal way to lay out a controller as it puts the least strain on your fingers. Especially if you can have the buttons on a paddle instead of a face button and thus never even have to move your fingers off the sticks.
I play claw so it's counter-intuitive to me but if a controller had that layout and paddles I would totally use it.
I'm so over my vantage I can't wait to pickup this astro controller. I loved my scuf impact but it wore out after two years. Even after the firmware update I still feel the vantage isn't as responsive as it should be.
Stark Industies it’s great I wouldn’t return in at all
@@Tono_-ht7tl I'm not returning it, I'm re-selling it to pay for my c40 :P
I was really looking forward to buy this beauty, but I mainly play fighting games so I'm pretty unsure about it now :(
Can another C40 TR owner confirm that the dpad is worse(harder to press) than the DS4?
sprite & fanta I don’t find it harder.
It's not hard to press, when he says that he means that it isn't a circular d pad like some other controllers have
How does this compare to the XB1 Elite though, is the real question. Cause I do plan on using this for my PC as well, and just having one choice for either would be preferable.
Finally a actual review
Is the range of motion for the sticks smaller than the other controllers? I've heave the range of motion is smaller, basically the ring around the sticks that limit the range of motion of the sticks is smaller.
How long do you think it will last?Because the problem with scuf is the fact it breaks easily
To clarify you can reprogram any button with the controller just press the back button for a few seconds until it rumbles then press the button you want re programmed then the one you want it to be.
I've been waiting for reviews for the Astro C40 TR to see if it's worth purchasing, after being on the search for a high end controller and purchasing the Scuf Vantage and the Razer Raiju Ultimate. With both of them I've had multiple stick drift issues, and been through the process of firmware updating and returns to factory. Even exchanges for new ones. And after all that, the Vantage is going back for a total refund and the Raiju Ultimate was completely fixed. Now it works as it was intended to, but it has been a royal pain. The only thing I will miss from the Vantage are the buttons and paddle layouts, specially the new side ones (sax buttons), but the Raiju Ultimate (once you get used to their layout) is pretty darn good. One thing that stands out for me to choose between them, is the symmetrical (Razer Raiju Ultimate) vs the offset (Scuf Vantage) sticks. I definitely prefer the symmetrical stick configuration. I guess I will wait a whole lot more to see if the Astro C40 TR will be the one to beat the Razer Raiju Ultimate I own,
Looks like the best "pro controller" available and the only good modulated controller
And the controller has an EQ?!?! That's amazing.
Are there more controllers out there that allow for modular change between the position of d pad and sticks?
As someone who regularly wears out the analog sensors on the sticks (especially for sprint) I like the sound of being able to buy a new analog stick module rather than a whole new controller 🤔
Jon Carter yep, it’s only $20 for the module also
Thank you for talking about the actual feel of the controller instead of JUST the features (like you did with the vantage cough cough) although I do wish you had described the face buttons a little more.
This controller looks SO GOOD , and with The modular design, we might be able to get stuff like snes style or sega style dpads, or even 3ds style thumb sticks! (not that you'd want that but still...)
The possibilitys are endless!
A Dongle means a no go for me. Means I can't turn on the PS4 with it, and that's a modern convenience I'm not willing to give up. Especially not for that much. Sigh. Hopefully the next generation of PS controller have paddles or alternate buttons for non pro/competitive players. I just think having a couple buttons on the bottom of my controller is nice. I have a Switch controller that was $45 that has that feature, is it so much to ask for a PS4 controller to have that as well?
No dongle means no latency issues or delay when playing its the best feature
Does it have 2 or 4 buttons on the back? That’s a big point but I haven’t heard about it anywhere
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Keep doing what you do!
What's the point of adding buttons to the back if we can't use them as unique buttons?! I want a controller for PC with more buttons that doesn't break easily (looking at you, Xbox One Elite controller with 90 day warranty).
Controllers aren't meant for PC and if you're using a controller on PC you should really just learn the Steam controller, it takes some getting used to but it's by far the best PC controller and the customization is next level.
The point to these are to reduce movement between sticks and face buttons, which improves response time and reduces strain. It's meant to make face buttons easier to access.
Amazing video thank you for all the in depth details. I always appreciate the way you provide is with information! 👌🥂🍾
did the3y remove the feature where u can remove the d pad cover and put the concave one?
Anyone else getting an audio issue with it after long term use? People cant hear me after a few hours and I dont know when it happens. It's basically like being muted without knowing and they've had to tell me 3 times already that they cant hear me. Every time i had to unplug and replug in my mic.
Your hat reads 3124.
1 "line" to draw the circle, 2 for the cross (yes, it is called that), 3 for the triangle, and 4 for the square.
Kyle Reese what
@@cured_bacon647 back in the early to mid 2000s, official PlayStation magazine gave us that bit of information. The buttons are literally 1, 2, 3, 4.
While a circle isn't a line, it is drawn in one continuous motion. Does that make better sense?
Kyle Reese yes it does and I remember that! Thank you
I recently grabbed a Brook X One from Amazon for $50 and put it on the Xbox One Elite controller I which I got on a significant sale awhile back. So far, it's been working great, and is also compatible with my Switch (although I haven't tried it yet). Even adding up the full cost for these two items, you'd save roughly $25. That said, if the main thing you want out of a PS4 controller is an Xbox One-like stick layout (like I was), then you could get a Brook X One and a regular Xbox controller and then be about $100 ahead on getting a C40/Scuf/Raiju. Not saying that these three controllers aren't good, I'm sure they're great, just wanted to point out another great option out there, especially if you have an Xbox controller already.
That said, I have a severe gizmo and gadget buying problem, so I still want to try out this C40, and so I certainly can't fault somebody else from wanting to do the same!
have it and it changed my gaming life for the better I really recommend it
The CT40 has a mix between the Regular PS4 Controller and the XB1 Controller.
Not in terms of layout, but that it combines the XB1 Elite set with the PS4 Programming and Remapping Software.
Good overall with Physical and Soft/Hardware Aspects.
Can I use wired headphones in wireless mode?? Cause with my vantage I cant
I had to return astro c40 because in my personal experience, I did keep accidentally pressing the back buttons only because of the way I hold my controller (personal problem). I had to somewhat change the way I hold the controller, in order to hit the back buttons comfortably. During gaming and after gaming my marriage finger and pinky finger will feel sore/achy because of the way I had hold it. Overall it is a great controller, so don't get me wrong. It has no lag when in wireless mode, nice grip, it has some weight, swappable d pad and analog sticks, trigger stoppers, the button remapping mode for back buttons is easy, and the two different profiles for different button layouts. The only cons I found is that while in wireless mode, it doesn't show how much battery it has when you hold the PS button, the motion keyboard sensor doesn't work, and the controller in wire or wireless mode won't power on the Ps4/Ps4 pro.
You look like, Dully from the movie Blow. Thank you for the review, good job on it.
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TIL 520K subs is underrated.
Love your videos keep up the good work👍👍
Kevin, do you know when it will be released in the UK, as I believe it is only available in the US at the moment?
Iv done son research on that and it says expect the release in May the could change though
No bluetooth is a big plus, honestly. Bluetooth adds more delay than streaming games through something like Stadia.
How is the response time? Is Astro c40 latency as bad as Razor Raiju??
Jesse Timms it’s supposed to be under 5ms, so better than the standard DualShock
Amazing video :D
i guess the nacon pro 2 doesn't exist apperantly. If you are gonna do a comparison between main competitors then at least include them all.
OK I just have one question and I really hope you get back with me bro do you think that its future proofed like will this work when the PS 5 comes out Cause I hate to buy this controller and then a year from now or this year the PS 5 come out and I can't use this $200 controller with it
codster9634 buy the Best Buy warranty if it doesn’t work exchange it
What about Battle Beavers or Aim controllers? Evil controllers??
Those are just modded ps4 controllers that anyone could do at home
Need some help guys. Idk its it's just mine but on the right stick when moving to the right it's way slower then when moving to the left. I havent tested another game yet but I'm having this issue
Isn't the ps5 coming out next year or 2021 why would i buy this so late in the ps4's lifecycle?
I want that playstation beanie where you get it from?
You got concave and convex backwards - concave dents in and convex bulges out.
Returned mine. I have the Scuf Vantage. Both have trade-offs.
Would be nice if the c40 tr was available in Australia.
Will it be comparable with the ps5 that comes out in a year or 2
Ive seen this already but i just want to say its a great use for maybe xbox and ps4 users!
So could i make the dpad do what the left analog does and vise versa? Like have a character move w the dpad instead?
No, it just switches their physical location. Unless you are capable of remapping the controls of course.
How big is it compared to a Scuf it looks bigger / wider
Is the Nacon just... not competition at all?
I have one and it's great but it takes awhile to get used to due to the quick responsiveness of the button press!
Ok but which on is better? Out of all of them which one is the winner
Good controller but I’m having trouble getting used to it, my finger kind of hurt after playing time. Hope I get used to it 😰..
I’m loving it so far
Problem with the Raiju is its reliability. It's not available in the US because it's overwhelmingly buggy and Sony apparently wont allow it to be sold here. Razer has yet to catch up to all of the complaints about the controller either not working or having really bad stick drift on the right stick. It's a shame because it looks like it would be a very nice feeling controller and probably would have been my first choice if it wasn't for those issues. I'm hoping the C40 isn't as disappointing.
Is it good for fighters well not like i care since i play on stick.
Razer Raiju Ultimate, Raiju Tournament, or this?