Stephen A. is 'VERY, VERY HAPPY' about the Steelers' QB situation with Wilson & Fields | First Take
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- Stephen A. is 'VERY, VERY HAPPY' about the Steelers' QB situation with Wilson & Fields | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Chris "Mad Dog" Russo and Dan Orlovsky discuss the Pittsburgh Steelers' QB situation.
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For 5 Million I’ll take Russ and Fields over Watson for 45mil lol
I’d take them for $60M over Watson at $45M.
I wouldn’t take fields over any of them nor Mason or Kenny.
Deshaun Watson threw for 213 for 1 td and 1 pick against the Ravens. He hasn't proved he is better than Wilson and Fields.
How'd that second half go?
@@retrogaminggenesis6102 it was just the second half...
230 million for that one half too👀
LITERALLY lol when he used that as his argument im like waston didn’t even play well…While Russ ripped off a 5 game win streak against all playoff teams minus the Vikings ( GB,KC,CLE,BUF) this past season
He's definitely better
shout out Dan backing up my boys
Your boys?
Last 2 years in Denver Russ was behind the worst OLine in the league, going to Pittsburgh solves that "fatal flaw".
@jayjya: Yeah it’s weird.
Dan was right, Deshaun hasn’t shown he could CONSISTENTLY play like he did that ONE HALF in Baltimore.
Mad Dog doesn’t know what he’s talking about with Russ, either! He outplayed Mahomes h2h in both games in 2022, his first with the Broncos, and that was in the worst season of his career.
And is anyone forgetting how he lit up the Chargers in the first quarter of his first game against them and in 2022?
The 2022 season was the worst of Russ’s career, but that doesn’t mean he had no good games that year. To the contrary, he did…5 of them, tbh.
Seahawks
Chiefs
Chiefs
49ers
Raiders game-1
Not only did he have a horrible coach and a squad decimated by injuries in 2022, he was injured himself that year and told no one until AFTER he scheduled offseason knee surgery. Mahomes would’ve made sure everybody knew it, sat out the season to protect his image, and let the Broncos lose.
Let Mahomes break a nail and he plays it up like he’s suffering from nerve damage in his throwing arm.
Mahomes is the type to get a thigh bruise or have a brief ankle pain and act like his leg is broken when he’s really in zero pain. Look at what he did during SB57! He was briefly hurt and played it up when things weren’t going his way, and he did it so he would have a ready-made excuse for losing. Once he saw that his team could win, he was fine. He stopped with the phony limping, etc.
Russ in 2016 sustained injuries in both knees, had broken ribs, and had a concussion, and he played the whole season without saying a word. He downplayed the injuries and dragged his team to the playoffs with no run game and half of a defense! Russ should’ve missed at least 8 games that year!
That’s why I respect Russ more than I do Mahomes, but sometimes Russ is too noble for his own good.
No one ever mentions Russ’s injuries. They talk about 2021 like the guy wasn’t seriously injured.
A throwing hand mallet-finger injury requiring immediate surgery is a serious injury for a QB. In fact, it is career-threatening!
He led the league in passing over the first 1/3 of the 2021 season.
Mahomes breaks a nail and the media turn it into a serious hand injury. MAHOMES turns it into a serious injury! Dude overplays it; he fakes it actually (see Eagles), so he can have a built-in excuse if he loses.
Russ gets knee injuries that should require him to miss half the season, and he not only plays but leads his team to the 2016 playoffs.
In 2021, he begins the season by leading the league in passing over the first 4.5 games, and sustains a hand injury that leaves him healthy for all of nine games.
He appears in 14 games because Geno goes 1-2 in his absence and clearly cannot win games, and tries to will his team to the playoffs, nearly succeeding. The media talks about him like he’s washed…garbage.
In 2022, he sustains a knee injury requiring surgery, says nothing, and plays on it. People find out about that but ignore it completely, saying he doesn’t have his legs anymore…that he isn’t mobile anymore!
Like…what?!!!
Russ will be fully healthy, 100% focused, and removed from the stench of Xenver and the hate he has received over the past two seasons. He will also have a good supporting cast and competent cus hing for the first time since e 2020. Everyone will see the results.
I’ll bet money that he is a top-5 QB this year!
How can they put Watson over Russell and Fields? Watson hasn't played a full season in like 3 years.
I think because you almost have to think Watson is better because of how much they're paying him. The money is causing a mirage effect like seeing a waterfall in a desert. I definitely personally think Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are better than Watson.
@@Nightwing0415gotta say I have to agree. It’s some weird mentality equivalency that if a player is getting paid more and entrenched as the starter they “have” to be better.
That's why. He's literally done nothing since 2020.
He's getting prepped for the season... gotta love those rub downs
Just ignore them my friend. It's ESPN gas lighting clowns as always.
They are both better than Pickett
That's not something anyone should be celebrating. You can be better than Pickett and still be trash.
@@TheBrotherHoodSportsthe fact they went 10-7 with worse QBs is worth celebrating.. This year should be alot better for Pitt.
You are better than Pickett and I don’t even know ya!
It's crazy they got to the playoffs with pickett. I think this team will be pretty good with the QB upgrade next year.
Thank you.
Find myself rooting for Russ. He's obviously humbled. Has something to prove. So does Tomlin. Might work.
Sacks? They were on the Bears and Broncos, what you thought was going to happen lol. I hate when analysts don't take account for how bad a team is when evaluating players especially QB
They can't play from the pocket so they run into sacks.
@snipes Fields has had the second most time to throw over the 2022 and 2023 seasons. Stop blaming everyone else for Fields looking like a deer in the headlights because he can't figure out simple zones or combination coverages. 😂
@christopherharris3229 I'm just not about to all the blame on him. There offense was weak, line was weak, coaching. As a Steelers fan, I can say your offensive coordinator plays a huge role in QB success
U realize he watches film right? And also played the position. Those guys hold the ball too long
@@snipesgang7884had the second most time to throw so how is the line weak? 😂 you’re a biased fan boy 😂
Mad dogs “argument” is really 1/2 of a football game? Seriously?
Justin outplayed Goff both games last year, better than Watson playing before he got hurt lol
He did what he's supposed to do make you laugh.😂😂😂
Probably thought Matt Flynn was the next Rodgers too
He DID not win the game. He’s arguing for a team who had their starter play 6 games and limped into the playoffs with a madden player at qb.
Nick Foles and Joe Flacco might be the best quarterbacks of this century I guess. I've seen them play some really good games here and there. Never mind what happened between.
Dan is just awesome at explaining football to people who don't do it as a job.
Mad dog looks and acts like a crooked lawyer
Lmao Madd Dogg gets paid to be a Madd Dog its comical.
Maddog is the wooooorrrst !!!!!!!! NFL , analyst of all time
Mad Dogs argument is weaker than Deshaun Watson's sexual harassment defense.
😭😭🤦🏽♂️
Must be pretty strong since Watson was never found guilty
@@jonnie5bgood583 LMAO he is settling out of court. Basically saying "I'll pay each of you 1.5-2.5m to not tell the world how much of a creep I am". That's not a good defense bro, that's just being rich.
@MmaMadman85 that's definitely not how it works bud. It's more like it's cheaper to pay the gold digging whores than to deal and pay for long drawn out court cases. Settling out of court does not equal guilt. And notice how there weren't criminal charges
Yeah! I can’t figure out these Russ-haters. But even Dan Orlovsky is wrong. Russ in 2018-2020 was uncorking the ball quickly, and he used the middle of the field.
Mad Dog is silly. The games Russ had against Buffalo, GB, and KC (week 8) were more impressive than what Deshaun Watson did against Baltimore.
Deshaun hasn't even proven that he's capable of playing more than 6 games in a season now. 😂
He’s proven that because of one year?
Didn't Russell throw for like 114 yards in that KC game? Deshaun hasn't been healthy like that
@@duvaltilwedie9043 passing td with only 114 yds passing is a wild stat
@@theacgkid the same defense that gave up 70 pts yea right man
@@theacgkid they did shape up but top 5 is wild from the stats I seen Russ played good football which is all the Steelers are asking from him
I like what Dan said we haven’t figured anything out yet but we have hope. Arthur Smith , Russ , & Fields are all still questionable. But as a fan I’m happy
As a Titans fan, Russell is going to be great with Arthur Smith! Play action will be beautiful in Pittsburgh
Literally can’t be mad all lol for the Khan artist to pull this off is crazy I wanted this to happen but it worked out perfectly
Steelers with the steal of the off season 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
They have the best off season so far
mad dog sounds dumb, I watched Kenny Pickett beat that same ravens team. 🤣
I 10000000% believe in Justin Fields and Russel Wilson more than Happy Endings over there in Cleveland getting carried by his defense and playing 6 games.
This is so hilarious. Stephen A Smith was a huge Russ hater when he played for the Broncos. Now he thinks Russ is a Hall of Famer.😂😂😂
Ikr, he’s a steeler fan
I mean let’s be real, anyone who is a Steelers fan is just happy to have a QB that’s not Kenny Pickett or Mitch Trubisky.
He was hardon Russ because Russ WAS horrible at Denver… but I know he understands that Russes situation is totally different personnel and coach wise
Russell wilson was 24 of 29 for a 82.8% completion percentage with 2 touchdowns as well as 30 yards rushing against the bill's with 117 quarter rating. That's better than any game Deshaun watson had and he didn't throw for many yard's but he had 3 TDs anda 119 QB rating against the chiefs while also running for 3 yards. I'd take Russell wilson over watson at this point. I don't think people realize how bad the QB situation has been in Pittsburgh the last 3 seasons. Russell Wilson is not just an upgrade but a massive upgrade.
Wilson did all that with next to nothing. There’s not an active QB in the league who could thrive with that team. He never should’ve gone to Denver
@@skeezix8156buddy Watson has an incredible team around him
Mad dog is nuts
Success in the QB position relies heavily on protection and it's worth noting that Russ has been under siege for at least the last 5-6 seasons. This was one of the motivating factors for him leaving Seattle. As a Hawks fan, one of the most frustrating things was the subpar protection for Wilson and he still managed to be successful. I believe give him more time and the personnel to throw to and he will definitely make the Steeler offense better.
"Mad Dog" lives up his benighted moniker, thank you Dan for keeping it real.
Just remember we went 5-1 against afc north with Kenny/mason. So how can it get any worse after new offense coach and defense we just added. Plus we are not done yet!
Ain’t no way mad dog arguing for a 1/2 of a game against DO’s argument for a stretch of games
This guy saying Deshaun Watson is elite by one half like saying Pickett is elite after a 4th quarter where it’s the only time he shows up
Mad dog will be eating crow at the end of the year as always lol😂
I'm a Pittsburgh Steeler fan but the funny thing about I used to root against Russell Wilson when he used to play for the Seahawks or whoever he played for but now that's the funny thing cuz I used to root against them but now I'm rooting for him
Watson is way overrated and overpaid. Steelers now have the 3rd best qb room in the division and the best roster overall in the division.
We’ve gotten to the playoffs with second and third string we got this
Steelers are going to win the division
Steelers beat the ravens twice with what we had.
Peep how the producers rolled the clips of JF getting sacked in slow motion. Right after DO says "Fields needs to speed his game up". Hilarious.
Holding onto to Watson is wild.
Hate for Russ is real. Steelers didn't get this attention even when Big Ben was behaving like Watson. So what Russ did that media hates him so much?
Get em Dawggy
The Russ and Fields hate............... loooooool. Steelers are going to be SCARY.
I love to see Mad Dog and Dan go at it 😂 Pause
Everybody wants to talk about the ravens.The bengals and the browns in our division.
As if pittsburgh has not been owning them year in and year out.
We practically sweep all those teams yearly. And w/ subpar QB play.
Lamar is way over rated, watson was never good And borrow has fallen off of a cliff.
Lettem talk keep us under the radar
I agree with all except the Lamar slander
I have to agree with Dan's take. Stephan A. and Russo are crazy.
Watson over Wilson is so stupid!
5-1 in division and 10-7 overall with a playoff berth last year on the back of Mason Rudolph, Kenny Pickett, and Mitch Trubisky. Thats hella impressive.
Ive seen nothing from dashawn since he played in houston. That was a long time ago in nfl time
The fact that mad dog’s opinion is sought after in sports commentary is wild to me
Wilson outplayed Mahomes in KC last season, 3 TD's and a 125 QBR.... He outplayed Josh Allen in Buffalo, with an 82% cmp, 2 TDs and a 124 QBR???? Watson's best game was 213, 1 td, 1 int and an 80 QBR??? Wilson >>>> Watson
It's crazy to hear Orlovsky critique QBs
Dan O finally agree with this guy
i just want to see us vs the ravens in the AFC championship game again
Steelers been graded A on trades and draftpicks have not even started....Omar Khan is 🍳 cooking....🖤💛
As long as GP is getting the rock I’m happy! Because if he is producing then we are winning! Now he got a legit QB1 in fields for the future, he is going to light it up
He talks like somebody’s drunk dad at the wedding 😭😭
They will reduce sacks by playing for a better team. The O line doesnt even need to be a massive upgrade. Youve got a great run game and an elite defense with a great game manager coach. Those things are going to keep you in it so your QB doesnt need to go get 200 yards and 2 TDs in the second half of every singke contest to have a snowball's chance of winning. When youre ALWAYS playing from behind if forces your QB into taking uncomfortabke chances to try and extend drives. Playing in closer contests will fix a lot of that.
LAST YEAR RUSSELL WILSON THREW 26 TD'S & 8 PICKS IN 15 GAMES...
KENNY PICKET THREW 13 TD'S & 13 PICKS!!!!!
STEELERS STILL MADE THE PLAYOFFS!!!!
RUSSELL WILSON MAKES THE STEELERS WAY WAY WAY BETTER!!!!🏈🏈🏈💯💯💯
I'm confused. He was suspended. Whose fault is that?
Big Ben's last 2 years were difficult to watch because of Canada.
You can't compare the QBs without considering the rest of the offense they had to play with.
This guy, “Mad Dog” has gotta go. Get with the times ESPN.
Dano always fighting for his life against these remedial takes 😂
"Bro he is a great QB. Remember those 4 downs that he was unstoppable that one time last year?!?" 🤣😂
I'd really love to see a single sports panel discussion that isn't just a middle-aged guy with a heavy East Coast accent shouting over his fellow panelists.
Why does everyone forget that the ravens are 1-7 vs the steelers since 2020
The way to limit sacks and turnovers: RUN THE BALL.
If the defense is worried about the run, the pass attack gets easier
It's not an upgrade. Wins are the only thing that matter. In the last 2 years, the combinations of Pickett/Rudolph/Trubisky and Wilson/Fields have had the exact same number of wins - 19. We will have to wait until the end of the 2024 season to see if this was an "upgrade".
Mad Dog basing his point on a half of a game in 3 years is wild 😂 He has 14 TDs and 9 ints the last 2 years.
Deshaun Watson plays like Prescott hasn't got nutin
Can we stop 🛑 with the Misinformation. No teams last season scored above 30+ points on us. Where did Mad Dog get 35 points?
he’s an idiot dude saying the browns qb room is better than the steelers is a huge red flag already watson didn’t even play good against yall that game😂 look at the stats he played average
Right now, the QB play for the Steelers is third behind the Ravens & Bengals. Did Mad Dog watch Deshaun Watson play last year before he got hurt. He didn’t look good at all. Deshaun Watson still has to prove that he’s still that guy the Browns got from the Texans.
I find it hilarious he will talk about Justin Fields fourth-quarter stats but not Russell Wilson’s which led the league. Number 1….
I’m trying to find this imaginary game where Watson went crazy against Baltimore. Is he talking about November 12 2023?? When he had 1 TD, 58% 6.3 YPA and an interception? Am I tripping??
Dan does realize Justin o line was god awful his whole time in Chicago that’s why he got hit so much and sacked.
For some reason that doesn't count when the QB looks like 🧔🏾♂️but they beg for o-line help when the QB looks like 👱🏻
Nah he definitely walked into some sacks
"If you have 2 quarterbacks, you have none." -John Madden
Can you please do Justin Herbert's 4th quart stats. All of a sudden it becomes a team issue, coaching issue or defense issue. He has more interceptions than Fields does in the 4th quarter. Field's issue, I actually watched all his games instead of just looking at the stat sheet. Bears gain a lead in the 4th. The head coach would call a very conservative game plan. The lead was lost bc the defense couldn't protect the lead. Then they would ask Fields and the offense to turn it on again in the 4th. That's impossible, for a coach to completely kill the rhythm of the offense and then try to turn it back on. Watch the Denver, Browns and Lions game tell me I am wrong.
Mad dog is drunk!! Heck Pickett and Mason beat Baltimore too lol n they sorry🤣😂🤦♀️
D.O. Literally provides the stats that these are the two most mistake prone QBs in the league. SAS immediately talks about Wilson not turning the ball over much. Wilson is average at best. Fields has had enough data set to know he’s a backup.
Steelers went 10-7 and 5-1 in the division with Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph, having Russ and Fields definitely is a fix for this team
On Fields, you can't speed up if your O line can't block and your receivers can't break free. Come on Dan, as a former QB you should know better
Wilson is a deep ball QB. The Broncos wanted to run Shanahan stuff and it didn’t work. Shanahan basically took the west coast offense and added zone running. Issue is that’s not Russ style of football. He’s more a throw back QB chucking them deep.
Sitting behind Russell Wilson is going to do Justin Field some good
Same game ford run for 107 yards
What about how much the Browns are paying Deshaun for inconsistent play lol how is that not factored into the QB “situation”
I know Mike Tomlin likes his shiny new toys but we seriously need to focus on that O line sooner or later
So mad dog is saying Deshaun Watson won a game when he threw one touch down? the kicker put more points on the board in that game than he did
Watson currently is slightly below or even to Russ. Watson is entering year 3 of a massive 5 year contract. If he doesn’t stay healthy and show flashes he could lose his job. Huntley could take it or they could cut their losses completely or keep him on roster etc etc
Russell Wilson will deliver for the Steelers. I agree hope Ross Wilson good luck.
Mad dog: that half of deshaun Watson was so good I'd give him a massage for that.
I wonder why Watson was suspended for, wild how you can people off and the media forgets.
Steelers were 5-1 in the division and won 10 games with kenny, mitch and mason. Anything less than 10 wins next year is a disappointment.
Their takes on Wilson since he landed in the Burgh have convinced this is for sheer entertainment and nothing else. Someone is gonna argue for. Someone is gonna argue against. Whether they actually believe what they're saying or not.
Mike White in the last 3 years has put in games that have rivaled anybody's. A game is a game.
I enjoyed the old guy
What else could Pitt have done at qb position besides what they did last weekend?? Sign Cousins? Bring back Ben? Trade up for a draft pick who has never played an NFL snap.. haters gonna hate
mad Dogg is forgetting Russell Beat the Bills and the chiefs last year. which were both playoff teams!
How has Deshawn Watson moved pass Russ if he hasn’t done anything.
Mad dog needs to get off the TV. Watson ?? Who is Watson compared to what Russ brings to the table ?? Lol
Yea and the Steelers swept the ravens in the AFC North without Russell Wilson. Mason Rudolph scored 30 twice against the bengals and Seahawks. Steelers were 5-1 in the AFC North. Defense is king. Imagine if we had above average QB Play.
Fields literally beat the NFC runner up Detroit…
Deshawn put a game winning drive together with a broken shoulder
and that’s the only thing he has done in 3 years being paid 240 mill😂
Mad dog trippin
Why is this guy acting like Watson is some world beater...? He's an interception machine lol.
SAS is gonna be ripping Arthur Smith’s offense by Week 6