Retired USN Submariner here. I remember weeping as I read of this tragedy back then. Seeing this now still brings tears to my eyes. Very happy their hard work returned the crew remains to their families.
Why can't people talk about themselves in normal way here in youtube? They don't say, "hey, I am a retired submariner". they say "retired submariner here"...did they teach you how to sound like a db when talking about yourself? Or is sounding like a douche a pre requisite of military employment? My step dad talked the same way but he was in the airforce and not anything special. Yet there he was "former refuller here" normal people don't talk that way and is a great way for your kids to develop a hatred of you. Its called honking your own horn and the way you guys do it is extremely stupid...no offense and thanks for your service...but seriously, is it all cocky attitude or just plain stupidity?
What get's me is almost every country offered help, and could have helped to get those men out including the USA but not limited to the US. The British had a sub that could dock with it as did the Dutch if I recall. The Russians at the time were to worried about state secrets instead of saving the lives. Why don't they have an outside connection to supply oxygen and water like some other subs have? I'll not name the country that has that and it's more than 1. I could go on and on about the problems with what happened but why bother. It's not like my statement will change anything. An escape trunk would have been nice to have.
I’m an American and this immense operation and the recovery of the Kursk’s crew brought tears to my eyes. My sympathy to the families of the lost submariners. If only mankind could find a way to avoid wars,just imagine the lives that would never be sacrificed and the resources that could be used for better purposes.
Hi John. Please allow me to extend my heartfelt thank you to you and your family for your service to our country. From a very proud daughter of a WWII Naval veteran. Warmest regards, Fran, Staten Island New York
Even though in the RAF, we still feel very much for those in uniform that lose their lives unnecessarily. Truly incredible feat carried out by the salvage teams.
Ex RAF here. I did part of my trade training with 6 navy recruits, with 3 of those being submariners. One of them ended up transferring to the Royal Marines. Turns out he had really bad claustrophobia, and couldn't cope. Another one died in motorbike accident two years later. It's hard for all of us military people, because we become so close to each other.
My wife and I are at 12 years with no cable or satellite. When we travel and turn on the TV in the hotel, we are immediately validated. It's worse than it was 12 years ago.
Interesting how the chief designer of the Kursk marvels at how so many different peoples came together to accomplish the salvage, an attitude that ought to have made the design and building of the Kursk unnecessary. US and NATO forces offered to help in locating the Kursk immediately after the accident and to help with deep rescue… and were rebuffed. We keep building weapons based on our fears, rather than building connections based upon our shared humanity.
WELL WHEN YOU HAVE A BILLON DOLLOR DEAL GOING ON TESTING A NEW TYPE OF TORPEDO IN FRONT IF POTENTIAL BUYERS YOU HAVE TO ACT AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED TILL ITS TO LATE YA THATS WHAT HAPPENED ITS CALLED A SUPER CAVITATION TORPEDO IT WAS ROCKET POWERED AND WENT SO FAST IT FORMED A POCKET OF AIR AROUND IT LIKE A SLIPSTREAM UNDERWATER UNDETECTABLE TILL IT HITS YOU BUT YOU DONT FEEL IT FOR A FEW SECONDS BECAUSE ITS GOING SO FAST... NIW MAYBE IT WAS JUNK AND LOADING THE FUEL THAT IS VERY UNSTABLE MADE IT BLOW UP OR MAYBE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT THAT HAD A SUB CLOSE BY AND KNEW RIGHT WHERE THEY WHERE AMD COULD SAVE THEM BLEW IT UP TO STOP THEM FORM SELLING IT I DONT KNOW IETHER WAY THISE TORPEDOES ARE TO DANGEROUS TO HAVE ON A SUB WINK WINK😜
We can thank Nick Sloan of South Africa and all the salvage companies involved and the brave salvage divers who lost their lives, for preventing a monumental environmental disaster on the coast of Tuscany.❤
Its safe to say its never been successfully done before, but it was tried by Ballard on the Glomar Explorer to get K129. It broke up during the lift and they only got a small portion of it so the story go's.
IT DIDNT MATTER AFTER THEY WHERE ALL DEAD AND BECAUSE THEY WHERE DEAD THEY COULDN'T TELL ANYONE OF THE FOREIGNERS TO WHOM RESCUED THEM WHAT THEY WHERE DOING OR HOW THEY WHERE SHOWING OFF A NEW TORPEDO THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL THEY TOLD THEM EVERYTHING IS FINE THEY COULDN'T DO ANOTHER LAUNCH AMD TOOK THEM HOME THEN MADE UP THE STORY THEY TILD TO THE RST OF THE WORLD LOOK IT UP WE HAD A SUN A FEW MILES AWAY UET THEY CLAIM THEY COULDN'T FIND IT IN TIME WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU
They didn't want to seen as weak enough to need help from the west. Never a thought for the men. If he had accepted help those men who crammed themselves in that small dark, wet, cold space may have survived.
What a complete disappointment the Russian government is!!! They spent 65million dollars to tow a submarine back, buried the bodies of the sailors and still would not reveal to the families what actually happened. Why it sank. Why it exploded. Seems like an incredible waste to me in that regard. My guess is that the second test torpedo exploded while being deployed, and possibly triggered a third to explode. But the question remains...WHY???
HAVEN'T YOU EVER WATCHED TH-cam LOOK IT UP THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL A NEW TYPE OF TORPEDO TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AND IT WENT SOUTH SO THEY TOLD THEM THEY COULDN'T LAUNCH THE TORPEDO AND THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE TO NOT ALARM THE BUYERS TO THINK THE TORPEDOES WHERE SHIT THATS WHY THEY WAITED TILL IT WAS TO LATE AND THEN WHEN THEY DECIDE TO RISE IT THE WOULDN'T DO IT UNLESS THE FRONT WAS CUT SO NO ONE COULD TELL OR SEE THERE NEW UNRELIABLE WEAPON THAT ISNT WORTH SHIT THEY ACTUALLY WONT LET ANYONE NEAR THE REMAINING WREAK BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT ANYONE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED
SUPERCAVITATING TORPEDO THE SPEED WAS MORE THAN OTHER TORPEDO ANYONE HAS IT WENT SO FAST IT CREATED A POCKET OF AIR AROUND THE ENTIRE TORPEDO CAUSING IT TO SLIP THROUGH THE WATER FASTER THAN ANY OTHER TORPEDO COULD EVER GO THAT IS WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO RAISE THE FRONT OF THE SHIP BECAUSE THAT TORPEDO WAS JUNK AND UNRELIABLE
I'm very disappointed the Putins SMO is still going on, now we know he cares little even for his people , much less for his military personnel, they are nothing but Cannon Fodder, his sympathy for the Submariners and their families was just a facade.
The Costa Concordia team did a fabulous job, but they never raised the biggest submarine ever made, and it was the first time anyone attempted this job on such a short schedule.
wow! i remember hearing the news of that submarine wrecking when i was in high school and how scary it must have been for all involved. it seems even scarier thinking of the long term danger posed by the radiation exposure from the sub’s nuclear reactor to anyone salvaging it.
they shut down the reactors and the fuel rods where sealed in a lead based case within the sub very doubtful they would have been any radioactivity leaking around it for another 100 years or so maybe longer they say those where we'll built subs
It is a shame world superpowers can it seems only come together in tragedy. God Bless all the Submariners that lost their lives in this misfortunate cateclism. We pray for those families of loved ones and for the lives lost that fatefull day. ✝ .... 😥
HAVING SAID THAT YOU DO KNOW WE HAD A SUB THERE NOT FAR FORM THEM WE HAD THERE EXACT POSITION AMD COULD HAVE HAD A RESCUE SUB THERE WITHIN HOURS THATS NOT COMING TOGETHER THATS PAYING SOMEONE TO RISE YOUR MISTAKE THE RUSSIANS EVEN HAD A RESCUE SUB THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN A DAY OR SO BUT THEY CLAIMED THEY COULDN'T FIND IT BECAUSE DEAD MEN TELL NO TAILS OF THE "TEST" THEY WHERE DOING OR ABOUT THE FOREIGN DIGNITARIES THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL I MEAN SHOW OFF THERE MILITARY MIGHT
It seems the faith of several salvage crew members was strengthened by supernatural calming of the sea and a rainbow. God did not forget these people or their families
The saw idea was brilliant. Just took the wire hand saw we've all used when camping for cutting limbs, branches and logs and then pumped it up with steroids.
The USS Thresher submarine, undergoing sea trials, sank on the 10th of April, 1963, 220 miles, off of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, 60 yrs. now, killing all 129 crew, including shipyard personnel on board, 8400 feet down so to deep for any recovery. May God help all lost submariners.
didnt the usa and the UK offer help immediately to help save the crew? I know the russians took big steps even the families of the crew injecting them in the neck as shown etc but I swear I read they offered help and could have done it
The failure to rescue the crew was our first sign what a jerk Putin was. There was no rational reason not to bring in an international rescue effort. I think everybody in the West was pulling for those guys. There was just no reason to let them die like that in peacetime.
WHEN WAS THAT EVEN DURING WW2 THEY HATED OUR GUTS AND WE HATED THEM SOMETHING TO DO WITH THERE GOVERNMENT TELLING THERE POEPLE WHAT TO DO WHERE TO WORK AND HOW TO LIVE YOU KNOW COMMUNISM NONE OF THESE COUNTRY'S HAVE EVER LIKE EACH OTHER EVER
WW2 and here and there. China was getting closer to the ties we had under Nixon. Friends enemies back and forth. Humans need to knock this war crap off, Take the politicians causing it and put them in an arena and let them FTTD?
I could think of a few reasons: --The Kursk sank in international waters, and (relatively) shallow waters, to boot; anybody could have dived on her in an attempt to garner information. (Hell...if the US went after a then-out-of-date ballistic missile submarine three miles deep for "Project Azorian", then I'm sure we would have tried something with the Kursk, a then-modern cruise missile submarine.) --Vladimir Putin caught quite a bit of heat when the Kursk sank, and it was learned how Russian reluctance for assistance killed the last crewmembers in the stern section. --The US raised the USS Squalus (later renamed USS Sailfish) after she sunk from a slightly shallower depth in 1939. It would have been a further embarrassment for the Russians to be able to raise their sub some 60 years later. --Recovery of the reactors. Russian already knew a thing or two about how radiation affects an environment. I believe the Kursk sunk in prime Russian fishing grounds; they wouldn't want a radiation issue.
Good question. I believe the answer lies in the style of the Russian Government in general. Everything in secret. Don't reveal any weakness to anyone, ever! Yeah,...Communism, what a wonderful form of government. Government for by the Few, benefitting only the Few! They provide a serious threat to the rest of humanity and maintain most of their population in or near the poverty level.
@@benjaminromberg2091 It was done to keep secrets. Sailors were killed by Putin intentionally because only dead people can't tell anything. Retired USSR submariner.
@@moosecat --The Kursk sank in international waters, and (relatively) shallow waters, to boot; anybody could have dived on her in an attempt to garner information. (Hell...if the US went after a then-out-of-date ballistic missile submarine three miles deep for "Project Azorian", then I'm sure we would have tried something with the Kursk, a then-modern cruise missile submarine.) @39:16 ...A mysterious round hole in the side of her....
This video is too long and drawn out. It needs to be edited down significantly. Yet there are things untold like what happened to the bow section that was cut off. Why was that not recovered with the rest of the sub. Why cut it off? What has happened to it since?
Using large ballast tanks is a very simplistic concept. In order to attach large ballast tanks, you have to figure out how and where to attach them, how much weight you're dealing with, sizes of cables, etc. The Giant 4 barge provided both the lifting capabilities and the buoyancy required.
take comfort these are salvage experts and they know more than you about everything, their options were prolly limited by the government, they are lifting a top secret military craft
Will the EU or the Dutch help in raising the Second Russian Submarine? It us a Capital ship in the Russian BlacknSea fleet, it is the Moskva missle Cruiser turned Submarine😮
Some work mates and I were sitting around taking break when news of the disaster was broadcast on the radio and we fell silent for a moment staring at each other but no words, we were worried about the safety of the crew on board the Kursk and their families, was a very sad day and days ahead.
Submariners are a brotherhood even potential adversaries no United States sub would have sunk Kursk. It was an unfortunate accident. It's good to see her and her crew returned to her Motherland.
Putin may be portrayed as a bad ass in western elite controlled media but even post cold war he brought the best of the best to raise the sub am neither pro nor against the Russian doctrine and way of life but this raising passed political and social boundaries ,yes I know the ruling class in Russia at the time where preserving the secrets of this submarine as any other country in the world at the time would have, may those brave submariners RIP and not be lost to time in a steel tomb
PUTIN DID A LOT OG GOOD THINGS FOR RUSSIA BUT SEEMS TO HAVE LET THE POWER CONTROL HIM HE DID A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AND THEN STARTED DOING VERY STRANGE THINGS LIKE MAKING UP SHIT FOR HIS OWN PLEASURE HES A DICTATOR MUCH LIKE FIDEL CASTRO STARTING OFF WOTH GOOD INTENTIONS BUT GIVING IN TO POWER HE OWNED
This was before Putin became a psychopathic despot and it's retrieval was political. Look for the footage of a young submariner's mother being subdued with an injection to the neck by security personnel. Putin stands for Putin and his oligarch chronies only. One day he will be shot in a hole like Gaddafi or hung like Hussein.
The Ukrainians would beg to differ today , as they felt in 2014 Crimea annexation, oh , tell that to the Dutch victims of Malaysia n MH 17, yeah same Dutch who helped in raising this Kursk Sub.
All Sailors no matter what nationality understand a truth that is lost to most others. The sea has no compassion, it tries its best to kill you and your vessel every single day. The most fortunate of us get to walk away one day and tell harrowing stories to our grandchildren. When a submarine is lost it is felt worldwide by every poor bastard that ever thought to be a sailor and a hundredfold more by those other rare breed submariners. No one ever deserves a cold dark death by suffocating and drowning. They were as most sailors are, kids most barely into their 20s who death was mourned by mothers and fathers like your own would be.
May all those who die Rest In Peace, sadly since Putin has chosen a different path than peace that to date has cost the lives of so many Russians and Ukraine citizens. Why? Because like Hitler before him he wants to destroy and conquer the Russians never learn.
My opinion, for what it is worth. Vladimir Vladimiravitch Putin's promise notwithstanding... After so long, I believe those 118 submariners deserved to stay below the waters in perpetual respect. Removing them from their watery gravesite seems to be a meaningless desecration.
A lot of the families would have wanted the bodies of their family members back. It was also about the nuclear pollution that would have happened as a result of leaving it.
Retired USN Submariner here. I remember weeping as I read of this tragedy back then. Seeing this now still brings tears to my eyes. Very happy their hard work returned the crew remains to their families.
Why can't people talk about themselves in normal way here in youtube? They don't say, "hey, I am a retired submariner". they say "retired submariner here"...did they teach you how to sound like a db when talking about yourself? Or is sounding like a douche a pre requisite of military employment?
My step dad talked the same way but he was in the airforce and not anything special. Yet there he was "former refuller here" normal people don't talk that way and is a great way for your kids to develop a hatred of you.
Its called honking your own horn and the way you guys do it is extremely stupid...no offense and thanks for your service...but seriously, is it all cocky attitude or just plain stupidity?
I'm also retired USN Submariner and I agree with your comments because it could have been us.
What get's me is almost every country offered help, and could have helped to get those men out including the USA but not limited to the US. The British had a sub that could dock with it as did the Dutch if I recall. The Russians at the time were to worried about state secrets instead of saving the lives. Why don't they have an outside connection to supply oxygen and water like some other subs have? I'll not name the country that has that and it's more than 1. I could go on and on about the problems with what happened but why bother. It's not like my statement will change anything. An escape trunk would have been nice to have.
Sincere, heartfelt thank you for your service from the proud daughter of a WWII Navel Veteran. Warmest regards, Fran, Staten Island,New York
It hurt the world truth be told we were not put on earth to fight.
I’m an American and this immense operation and the recovery of the Kursk’s crew brought tears to my eyes. My sympathy to the families of the lost submariners. If only mankind could find a way to avoid wars,just imagine the lives that would never be sacrificed and the resources that could be used for better purposes.
US Navy Submarine sailor here. God bless their souls. Our hearts go out to their families.
John, I agree with you. We always thought we would get to go home after our patrol, they came home the hard way.
Hi John. Please allow me to extend my heartfelt thank you to you and your family for your service to our country. From a very proud daughter of a WWII Naval veteran. Warmest regards, Fran, Staten Island New York
Even though in the RAF, we still feel very much for those in uniform that lose their lives unnecessarily. Truly incredible feat carried out by the salvage teams.
Ex RAF here. I did part of my trade training with 6 navy recruits, with 3 of those being submariners. One of them ended up transferring to the Royal Marines. Turns out he had really bad claustrophobia, and couldn't cope. Another one died in motorbike accident two years later. It's hard for all of us military people, because we become so close to each other.
Thank you for giving the families the opportunity for closure. 20 plus years ago.
I don't know why anyone would watch Tv when you can watch amazing Documentaries like this instead of that garbage.
Nobody wants to hear the truth about anything, just looking to pass the time before going to bed.
@@dboricoligator No cable for me since fall 2001. Haven't missed a thing.
@db oricoligator Me and my wife have been cable free since 2017 and i'll never go back.
My TV is connected to an antenna and to my router. Haven't used cable TV in 10 years. We watch the news, Masterpiece Theatre and stream movies.
My wife and I are at 12 years with no cable or satellite. When we travel and turn on the TV in the hotel, we are immediately validated. It's worse than it was 12 years ago.
Interesting how the chief designer of the Kursk marvels at how so many different peoples came together to accomplish the salvage, an attitude that ought to have made the design and building of the Kursk unnecessary. US and NATO forces offered to help in locating the Kursk immediately after the accident and to help with deep rescue… and were rebuffed. We keep building weapons based on our fears, rather than building connections based upon our shared humanity.
WELL WHEN YOU HAVE A BILLON DOLLOR DEAL GOING ON TESTING A NEW TYPE OF TORPEDO IN FRONT IF POTENTIAL BUYERS YOU HAVE TO ACT AS IF NOTHING HAPPENED TILL ITS TO LATE YA THATS WHAT HAPPENED ITS CALLED A SUPER CAVITATION TORPEDO IT WAS ROCKET POWERED AND WENT SO FAST IT FORMED A POCKET OF AIR AROUND IT LIKE A SLIPSTREAM UNDERWATER UNDETECTABLE TILL IT HITS YOU BUT YOU DONT FEEL IT FOR A FEW SECONDS BECAUSE ITS GOING SO FAST... NIW MAYBE IT WAS JUNK AND LOADING THE FUEL THAT IS VERY UNSTABLE MADE IT BLOW UP OR MAYBE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT THAT HAD A SUB CLOSE BY AND KNEW RIGHT WHERE THEY WHERE AMD COULD SAVE THEM BLEW IT UP TO STOP THEM FORM SELLING IT I DONT KNOW IETHER WAY THISE TORPEDOES ARE TO DANGEROUS TO HAVE ON A SUB WINK WINK😜
sorry for the spelling I'm to drunk to care
Shared Humanity? What are you kidding? "They" want to KILL US. THEY ARE THE ENEMY. You need to move to Moscow.
This was a fabulous watch . Thank you so much for posting it. God Bless those families and forever remember those brave Sailors
Amazing engineering and work.
We can thank Nick Sloan of South Africa and all the salvage companies involved and the brave salvage divers who lost their lives, for preventing a monumental environmental disaster on the coast of Tuscany.❤
Its safe to say its never been successfully done before, but it was tried by Ballard on the Glomar Explorer to get K129. It broke up during the lift and they only got a small portion of it so the story go's.
I'm so glad the sailors were able to finally come home.
Incredible level of brilliant engineering.
"And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them."
This was not the first time to lift a Soviet sub. In 1974 project Azorian lifted the remains of K-129 to the surface from a depth of over 5,000’.
May God Bless all involved , Both the Deceased and the Living , Amen ! 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for sharing!
Thumbnail is a Mike class I believe. It should be an Oscar II.
Truly amazing work ❤
A remarkable project. I still wonder why the Russians refused International help but contracted with the Dutch.
IT DIDNT MATTER AFTER THEY WHERE ALL DEAD AND BECAUSE THEY WHERE DEAD THEY COULDN'T TELL ANYONE OF THE FOREIGNERS TO WHOM RESCUED THEM WHAT THEY WHERE DOING OR HOW THEY WHERE SHOWING OFF A NEW TORPEDO THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL THEY TOLD THEM EVERYTHING IS FINE THEY COULDN'T DO ANOTHER LAUNCH AMD TOOK THEM HOME THEN MADE UP THE STORY THEY TILD TO THE RST OF THE WORLD LOOK IT UP WE HAD A SUN A FEW MILES AWAY UET THEY CLAIM THEY COULDN'T FIND IT IN TIME WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU
They didn't want to seen as weak enough to need help from the west. Never a thought for the men. If he had accepted help those men who crammed themselves in that small dark, wet, cold space may have survived.
What a complete disappointment the Russian government is!!! They spent 65million dollars to tow a submarine back, buried the bodies of the sailors and still would not reveal to the families what actually happened. Why it sank. Why it exploded. Seems like an incredible waste to me in that regard. My guess is that the second test torpedo exploded while being deployed, and possibly triggered a third to explode. But the question remains...WHY???
HAVEN'T YOU EVER WATCHED TH-cam LOOK IT UP THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL A NEW TYPE OF TORPEDO TO A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AND IT WENT SOUTH SO THEY TOLD THEM THEY COULDN'T LAUNCH THE TORPEDO AND THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE TO NOT ALARM THE BUYERS TO THINK THE TORPEDOES WHERE SHIT THATS WHY THEY WAITED TILL IT WAS TO LATE AND THEN WHEN THEY DECIDE TO RISE IT THE WOULDN'T DO IT UNLESS THE FRONT WAS CUT SO NO ONE COULD TELL OR SEE THERE NEW UNRELIABLE WEAPON THAT ISNT WORTH SHIT THEY ACTUALLY WONT LET ANYONE NEAR THE REMAINING WREAK BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT ANYONE TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED
SUPERCAVITATING TORPEDO THE SPEED WAS MORE THAN OTHER TORPEDO ANYONE HAS IT WENT SO FAST IT CREATED A POCKET OF AIR AROUND THE ENTIRE TORPEDO CAUSING IT TO SLIP THROUGH THE WATER FASTER THAN ANY OTHER TORPEDO COULD EVER GO THAT IS WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO RAISE THE FRONT OF THE SHIP BECAUSE THAT TORPEDO WAS JUNK AND UNRELIABLE
The rest of the world offered immediate help when the disaster first happened... the Russians declined.
A plan takes time .
I'm very disappointed the Putins SMO is still going on, now we know he cares little even for his people , much less for his military personnel, they are nothing but Cannon Fodder, his sympathy for the Submariners and their families was just a facade.
And the Costa Concordia team says....Hold my beer!
The Costa Concordia team did a fabulous job, but they never raised the biggest submarine ever made, and it was the first time anyone attempted this job on such a short schedule.
Smit International was part of both jobs , bud ......
wow! i remember hearing the news of that submarine wrecking when i was in high school and how scary it must have been for all involved. it seems even scarier thinking of the long term danger posed by the radiation exposure from the sub’s nuclear reactor to anyone salvaging it.
they shut down the reactors and the fuel rods where sealed in a lead based case within the sub very doubtful they would have been any radioactivity leaking around it for another 100 years or so maybe longer they say those where we'll built subs
Very sad and moving.
It is a shame world superpowers can it seems only come together in tragedy. God Bless all the Submariners that lost their lives in this misfortunate cateclism. We pray for those families of loved ones and for the lives lost that fatefull day. ✝ .... 😥
So so true
HAVING SAID THAT YOU DO KNOW WE HAD A SUB THERE NOT FAR FORM THEM WE HAD THERE EXACT POSITION AMD COULD HAVE HAD A RESCUE SUB THERE WITHIN HOURS THATS NOT COMING TOGETHER THATS PAYING SOMEONE TO RISE YOUR MISTAKE THE RUSSIANS EVEN HAD A RESCUE SUB THAT COULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN A DAY OR SO BUT THEY CLAIMED THEY COULDN'T FIND IT BECAUSE DEAD MEN TELL NO TAILS OF THE "TEST" THEY WHERE DOING OR ABOUT THE FOREIGN DIGNITARIES THEY WHERE TRYING TO SELL I MEAN SHOW OFF THERE MILITARY MIGHT
It seems the faith of several salvage crew members was strengthened by supernatural calming of the sea and a rainbow. God did not forget these people or their families
Why did they not raise the torpedo section? Was there nuclear war heads in there? Then they needed to be brought up too.
Who didn't want to bring up the torpedo section?
The saw idea was brilliant. Just took the wire hand saw we've all used when camping for cutting limbs, branches and logs and then pumped it up with steroids.
The USS Thresher submarine, undergoing sea trials, sank on the 10th of April, 1963, 220 miles, off of Cape Cod, Massachusetts, 60 yrs. now, killing all 129 crew, including shipyard personnel on board, 8400 feet down so to deep for any recovery. May God help all lost submariners.
so did many other boats and your FUCKING point is......?
i like it safe heere in port orange floride usa
didnt the usa and the UK offer help immediately to help save the crew? I know the russians took big steps even the families of the crew injecting them in the neck as shown etc but I swear I read they offered help and could have done it
The failure to rescue the crew was our first sign what a jerk Putin was. There was no rational reason not to bring in an international rescue effort. I think everybody in the West was pulling for those guys. There was just no reason to let them die like that in peacetime.
It's very sad! I wish Russia, the US, Ukraine and China were all friends like we once were.
WHEN WAS THAT EVEN DURING WW2 THEY HATED OUR GUTS AND WE HATED THEM SOMETHING TO DO WITH THERE GOVERNMENT TELLING THERE POEPLE WHAT TO DO WHERE TO WORK AND HOW TO LIVE YOU KNOW COMMUNISM NONE OF THESE COUNTRY'S HAVE EVER LIKE EACH OTHER EVER
We were never friends, not then not today, those Dictatorships and their ideology are for World domination . Ukrainians will tell you that.
When was that?
WW2 and here and there. China was getting closer to the ties we had under Nixon. Friends enemies back and forth. Humans need to knock this war crap off, Take the politicians causing it and put them in an arena and let them FTTD?
rest in peace, I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened
Why did they raise it only to scrap it?
I could think of a few reasons:
--The Kursk sank in international waters, and (relatively) shallow waters, to boot; anybody could have dived on her in an attempt to garner information. (Hell...if the US went after a then-out-of-date ballistic missile submarine three miles deep for "Project Azorian", then I'm sure we would have tried something with the Kursk, a then-modern cruise missile submarine.)
--Vladimir Putin caught quite a bit of heat when the Kursk sank, and it was learned how Russian reluctance for assistance killed the last crewmembers in the stern section.
--The US raised the USS Squalus (later renamed USS Sailfish) after she sunk from a slightly shallower depth in 1939. It would have been a further embarrassment for the Russians to be able to raise their sub some 60 years later.
--Recovery of the reactors. Russian already knew a thing or two about how radiation affects an environment. I believe the Kursk sunk in prime Russian fishing grounds; they wouldn't want a radiation issue.
Besides political points, it was done to get those sailors back to their families for a decent burial, then scrap it!
Good question. I believe the answer lies in the style of the Russian Government in general. Everything in secret. Don't reveal any weakness to anyone, ever! Yeah,...Communism, what a wonderful form of government. Government for by the Few, benefitting only the Few! They provide a serious threat to the rest of humanity and maintain most of their population in or near the poverty level.
@@benjaminromberg2091 It was done to keep secrets. Sailors were killed by Putin intentionally because only dead people can't tell anything.
Retired USSR submariner.
@@moosecat --The Kursk sank in international waters, and (relatively) shallow waters, to boot; anybody could have dived on her in an attempt to garner information. (Hell...if the US went after a then-out-of-date ballistic missile submarine three miles deep for "Project Azorian", then I'm sure we would have tried something with the Kursk, a then-modern cruise missile submarine.)
@39:16 ...A mysterious round hole in the side of her....
This video is too long and drawn out. It needs to be edited down significantly. Yet there are things untold like what happened to the bow section that was cut off. Why was that not recovered with the rest of the sub. Why cut it off? What has happened to it since?
Didn’t the US do this in 1974? I believe the sub was K129.
2 extremely huge ballast tanks would have worked just fine!
I agree. Seems like this salvage was over-complicated
Using large ballast tanks is a very simplistic concept. In order to attach large ballast tanks, you have to figure out how and where to attach them, how much weight you're dealing with, sizes of cables, etc. The Giant 4 barge provided both the lifting capabilities and the buoyancy required.
take comfort these are salvage experts and they know more than you about everything, their options were prolly limited by the government, they are lifting a top secret military craft
This happened during 9/11, crazy
As a former and proud, submarine sailor my hat is always off to those on eternal patrol no matter what navy they served.
Not "sub-mariners" - it is properly pronounced submariners".
00:38:00 CYA: Cover Your Arse!
Russian subs are a lot like Russian aircraft and tanks. Look good on paper but really only good for air shows or parades.
Russian T34 tank still rolling 70 yrs later , that is testament to their durability, their drivers and occupants make for Cannon fodder. LOL
Will the EU or the Dutch help in raising the Second Russian Submarine? It us a Capital ship in the Russian BlacknSea fleet, it is the Moskva missle Cruiser turned Submarine😮
Hay (like in horses). People WAKE UP
They used old torpedoes with a design flaw. Killed itself. Just like the floats poor design in Russia.
Some work mates and I were sitting around taking break when news of the disaster was broadcast on the radio and we fell silent for a moment staring at each other but no words, we were worried about the safety of the crew on board the Kursk and their families, was a very sad day and days ahead.
Grave robbers, just de[ends who does it i guess?
10:24 the woman is being drugged/injected!?????????????
Submariners are a brotherhood even potential adversaries no United States sub would have sunk Kursk. It was an unfortunate accident. It's good to see her and her crew returned to her Motherland.
Only grifted two point five mill.
Good haul off the backs/graves of 118 men
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Putin may be portrayed as a bad ass in western elite controlled media but even post cold war he brought the best of the best to raise the sub am neither pro nor against the Russian doctrine and way of life but this raising passed political and social boundaries ,yes I know the ruling class in Russia at the time where preserving the secrets of this submarine as any other country in the world at the time would have, may those brave submariners RIP and not be lost to time in a steel tomb
PUTIN DID A LOT OG GOOD THINGS FOR RUSSIA BUT SEEMS TO HAVE LET THE POWER CONTROL HIM HE DID A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AND THEN STARTED DOING VERY STRANGE THINGS LIKE MAKING UP SHIT FOR HIS OWN PLEASURE HES A DICTATOR MUCH LIKE FIDEL CASTRO STARTING OFF WOTH GOOD INTENTIONS BUT GIVING IN TO POWER HE OWNED
This was before Putin became a psychopathic despot and it's retrieval was political. Look for the footage of a young submariner's mother being subdued with an injection to the neck by security personnel. Putin stands for Putin and his oligarch chronies only. One day he will be shot in a hole like Gaddafi or hung like Hussein.
The Ukrainians would beg to differ today , as they felt in 2014 Crimea annexation, oh , tell that to the Dutch victims of Malaysia n MH 17, yeah same Dutch who helped in raising this Kursk Sub.
And all that. Wasted money energy and time. What a world we would have if all our resources werent put into nuclear submarines and weapons of war....
great story! they got what they deserved! a pity putin wasn"t on board
For real? How can you saw that? No matter how it happened those submariners didn't deserve dead. You are one sick puppy. Bless your heart.
A French bandejo...😮
Disgusting comment from one who obviously has never worn a uniform. 👎👎👎🇦🇺🦘
All Sailors no matter what nationality understand a truth that is lost to most others. The sea has no compassion, it tries its best to kill you and your vessel every single day. The most fortunate of us get to walk away one day and tell harrowing stories to our grandchildren. When a submarine is lost it is felt worldwide by every poor bastard that ever thought to be a sailor and a hundredfold more by those other rare breed submariners.
No one ever deserves a cold dark death by suffocating and drowning. They were as most sailors are, kids most barely into their 20s who death was mourned by mothers and fathers like your own would be.
Totally thoughtless of you.
I feel Like this could have been 1/3 the length and not missed anything except the bull chit suspense
Its not a Hollywood movie....
it will blow up
May all those who die Rest In Peace, sadly since Putin has chosen a different path than peace that to date has cost the lives of so many Russians and Ukraine citizens. Why? Because like Hitler before him he wants to destroy and conquer the Russians never learn.
My opinion, for what it is worth. Vladimir Vladimiravitch Putin's promise notwithstanding... After so long, I believe those 118 submariners deserved to stay below the waters in perpetual respect. Removing them from their watery gravesite seems to be a meaningless desecration.
YA TELL THAT TO THE FAMILIES TO WHOM GOT TO BURIED THERE LOVED ONES DUMBASS WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE BEFORE YOU GET SOMEONE ELES KILLED
The operation was conducted not to take care about submariners bodies. Only to keep secret over the Kursk weapon and reactor.
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A lot of the families would have wanted the bodies of their family members back. It was also about the nuclear pollution that would have happened as a result of leaving it.
I'm tellin'ya, It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of communist. That was a home run. Got 'me all.
The music in the intro was very innapropriate imo. For god's sake have a bit more respect.
this is a crappy video---way too long---should have been 20 minutes
This documentary is bull crap. I whish it told the true story
To say you're "unearthing" something lost on the bottom of a body of water is a pretty bizarre abuse of the English language.
Cooperation? Collaboration? Then tell the world why bastard putin refused help when it was possible to help kursk?
Crazy. Bet heads would of hit the block if they had failed ruskie style and used for guloush for the divers
Idiotic music. Otherwise it's a good vid
Back when Russia gave 1/2 of a shit about its dead soldiers
That was all a facade of the Kremlin, we now know better.