Westinghouse Igen4500DF vs Duromax xp4500ih Dual Fuel Generator review
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- Comparing two dual fuel generator which one would you buy?
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Really easy and good instructions. I’m a senior citizen and don’t have any experience with generators. Weight was a bit heavy but I got it out of the box. With the handle it won’t be an issue. Took minutes to get it started. Just what I needed.
Based on your review I bought the Duromax 4500ih last February 2022. I bought mine mostly as an emergency home back up for refrigerator and 2 freezers, misc. electric stuff in a power failure. It works great for that. Very happy with it. I keep mine on the battery tender, and run it once a month for 10 minutes to make sure it is good to go. I am thinking of getting one more to run in parallel. Considered the Duromax XP9000iH, but I like the idea of two 4500's in case one breaks. And two smaller units are more manageable if they need to be moved or transported. Plus, 2 is 1, 1 is none right! Always enjoy your reviews. Thank you. ;)
Thanks Jim
Happy New Year Gavin! Thank you so much for all of your awesome videos. I appreciate this comparison video of the Westinghouse and DuroMax. I like the DuroMax display, two remotes, and the switch to run the gasoline out of the unit before storing.
Happy New Year Elizabeth! Thanks for watching
Perfect timing that I watched your review because I’ve narrowed my own research down to these two inverter generators. I thought I’d check You Tube and glad I did. Thank you for the side by side comparison and real world load testing. I think I’m leaning towards the Westinghouse based on my pro/con list.
Another thorough comparison. Well done. Happy New Year!
Thanks Tom
Happy new year!🎊🎆
Remarkably well done video Gavin. Your reviews of these generators were not only detailed, but thorough and easy to understand. Many thanks to you!!
Thank you 😊
Love these reviews! Your neighbors must wonder about all the noise over that fence, but who cares what they think!
They all love me. who wouldn’t love having me as a neighbor! Minus all the noise 😏
@@GeneratorReviews Probably don't mind having you as a neighbor when the power goes out for a few days straight 🤣.
Can’t thank you enough for these. I was about to sell my Westinghouse gens for a Briggs but your videos have taught me a lot. Keep up the good work I hope you grow x10 in the next year
Thanks 🙏🏾
Got the Duramax 9000 Duel Fuel/Propane thanks for your help! We appreciate it! 🙌🏼
Anytime 👍🏾👍🏾
I have the Westinghouse and I love it, Im also loving your RV Sir! Thank you for the test!
Thanks 😊
Happy New Year to you and your family. I like the Duramax because of the features you pointed out. Of course in a power cut I'll take either one👍👍
Happy New Year 🎊
Thanks Gavin, that helped me decide what to do. I was looking for something for power outage at home and for camping or RV if SHTF or even off the grid scenario
Thanks for the great video. I also own a Westinghouse like the one you tested. I've had it gor 2 yrs now. Runs like a champ. Use in forboondocks. I appreciate the lower weight and quietness. Also have an older Duramax frame generator. It's nice but abit loud.
I have heard Westinghouse’s customer service is nonexistent. Can’t speak first hand but seen many people say so. Enough to make me avoid their products.
Glad things are working out with your product.
I like the video. Really appreciate your work on this. I just purchased the Westinghouse. Its a solid Generator and has great run time and quiet ..
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for watching and thanks for subscribing 👍🏾
Hey G, great comparison vid. Duramax has more features and a better cosmetic look, But that Westinghouse would serve me better in real-world situations and it's a little quieter.
Thank again!
I’m going with the Westinghouse Gav, thanks for the demo
Hey Jim!
Happy New Year 🎊🎆
Thanks for these reviews, Gavin!
👍🏾💯
This is exactly the video I was looking for as I'm trying to decide between these two gens for our off grid cabin. I like the Duromax features better but the quieter Westinghouse, deep in the woods, is something to consider. Soooo, still undecided. haaaa Thanks a lot, great video!
Here’s some more options to consider
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good job. This was the only video i could find on these generators where someone actually properly load tested with a meter.
Great review however the westing house had the carburetor drain feature as long as the propane is not connected. The selector can be turned from gas to the propane side and it will run the carburetor dry.However the propane cannot be connected.
Great stuff 👍. Always on point.
Fantastic video. The inverter generator will be what we will buy next. The video is well made. We live in Florida and have a conventional generator. Too hard to start and way too loud compared to the igenerator. WE will go for the Westinghouse just because the overall ratings for it have been so positive. Thanks again for a real test of these generators.
You’re welcome inverter is the best way to go for backup power
Great info sir... Happy new year
Thanks.. Happy New Year
Thank you for another very informative video.
Excellent information... based on your review I’d choose the Duramax....In my situation, I own a Predator 9KW ... it’s a little loud but I don’t have close neighbors... that baby will just about power my entire panel minus the dryer!
Thanks for watching
Happy new year 🎆🎊
Although I am not in need of such a large generator, if I were in the market I would probably choose the Westinghouse. Only because my little iGen2200 has not given me any trouble in the 2+ years I have owned it. That said, I do like the control panel on the Duromax better. Also like the propane port on the side instead of up front and the handles. Don't like the extra weight though. Thanks for another great video, Gavin. Happy New Year!
Happy New year 🎆 and thanks for watching
I’m willing to bet both of these and the Champion 4500/4650 are all using the same exact engine and most likely stator also. Perhaps small differences with the rectifier. I wouldn’t let reliability concerns be the deciding factor, because there’s likely little to no difference. Select based on the features you want. Front panel features and connections, dual fuel, remote start, fuel tank size, and how well the sound insulation works.
@@jabroni6199 Actually Duromax engines are made in Ontario, California. Westinghouse engines are made in Vietnam. But, your probably right about reliability. I just tend to stick with what works for me.
Awesome review! One word of caution and I just learned this the other day unfortunately.... Never start your microwave empty (I didn't notice if you had something in there).... Ours dang near caught fire. The components fry themselves if there is nothing in the chamber to catch the waves.... At a bare minimum put a wet sponge in.
Ohh it’s not empty inside, watch the video again you will here me say that
Thanks for sharing this with us
you did an awesome awesome review thank you very much. I needed to know this information. I’m shopping for generator and I was looking at that iGen 5000 DFC thank you so much best generator comparison and test I’veseen yet.
Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Just keep going through the channel and you’ll see a lot of different options. I have a brand new Pulsar 5000 duel fuel review coming out soon.
I like your reviews. You give a lot of detail.
If I may suggest something that will make your videos easier to watch, you could give yourself a script and maybe cut out the single camera running back and forth.
Thanks for the feedback
Yes I’m working on that one👍🏾
Thanks buddy
Great review very helpful thank you
Your videos are awesome!!
Great presentation, great job.
Awesome review. Not a bunch of technical stuff that most people don't get or need. Just a "What's it got and how much can it do" kind of thing. Thanks.
Most TH-cam channels just sound like a bunch of News broadcasters. Stats on top of stats on top of stats.
I just tried to get straight to the point and show people what they wanna see.
Thanks for watching. Thanks for subscribing.
@@GeneratorReviews Yeah, seems like KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) ain't real popular anymore.
Keep it up, bro.
Thanks for the review.
Thank you for the comparison. 😊
Dude! Thank you for making videos. 🙂I really enjoyed watching to find a generator that is right for us. You provided enough information and gave what seemed to be a fair opinion. The pace of the videos is good too. Liked - Subscribed - Commented - Now I will use the Affiliate Link - Have a Really Awesome Day! Thanks Again
Dude! Seriously you made my day, thank you so much sometimes its simplest comments like this that will keep me going.
Thanks again💯👍🏾👌🏾😊🙏🏾
We ordered the DuroMax. I feel like we made a good choice. You are the best! ;-)
Well, we are on our second DuroMax xp4500i Generator now and it too has already been sent back for repair. The first unit we received died in less than 15 hours. Was an electronic issue in the starter, according to the supplier. They were kind enough to send a new unit, since they didn't have any parts to repair our starter. The second generator only ran for a couple hours with no trouble, then it would only run for short, random periods of time (10 minutes max). The supplier sent a second return label and RMA. I have received the second generator, presumably repaired, from the supplier. I will let you know how things go from here. - I'm not looking for a solution from anyone, just letting you know about our experience with this product so far. We are getting pretty good at spending time breaking-in these generators and doing oil changes. - A very cold week of weather is expected. Lets hope the power doesn't go out! - I'll update you again when I have more experience with this generator. ~pasquale
I was hoping you could do a load test on some of the 4500w duel fuels with propane, Westinghouse, Champion, Duromax? I think that would be awesome to see some real test done on propane as I think a lot of us are looking for that! As always much respect
I can do that for you.👍🏾
Thank you for your review sir!!
Very good thank you for you time
Love your videos.....
Awesome video, well done.
Nicely done. I just purchased the Westinghouse through Sam's Club. $999. But the remote does not work on mine
In MY opinion I Like the way the Westinghouse handled the power surge better and the Volts held at a higher rate than DM a bit more power and overload protection from WH and for the $ 350 price dif the WH WINS in my opinion. Thank You oh the noise a bit louder o the DM.
Great Vid!!
Good review 👍
Great vid!
Thanks Eric
I am all about which one is more durable. DuraMax is all copper it advertised, don't know if that will make it last any longer.
Happy New Year! What ever happened to the Pulsar 4500? I remember you talking about doing more comparisons with it?
I will just trying to get them all out there first then I’m going to do some upkeep and maintenance videos
Hi Gavin, I love all these videos! They’re exactly what I’m looking for! I’ve been trying to find some information and I’m wondering if you could help. I’m was looking at the duramax 9000iH but then thought about 2 duramax 4500iH to run parallel. Noise is a HUGE concern for me and I was wondering if you had any input either way. Thanks for all these videos. They’re solid gold!
Hi David that would be a really good video to make. Since it would be really hard to carry the Duromax 9000 if you had two 4500 that would also give you a 9000w, you would still have dual fuel and when you don’t need all that power we could just run one.
if one goes down you still have a backup for redundancy
I’ll put this video idea on my list then will check the DB levels and power output and maneuverability
Thanks again for watching
@@GeneratorReviews I have talked myself out of the 9000 due to it's weight
and came across this comment exactly addressing a strong consideration!
Two 4500 DuroMax paralleled then using a dog bone connection 30 to 50 amp service at my breaker box.
Affording medium duty whole house power without the excessive weight of the 9000.
And should one malfunction I would still have light duty whole house service.
Gavin am I missing anything? TY
@@1new-man just remember that you only get 120v and that means you can’t power your 240v appliances
@@GeneratorReviews Got it!
TY 4 your time Gavin/always the best!
John 3:16
(Really appreciate your videos). I actually own the xp4500ih gen and have had the opportunity to use it quite a bit so far this winter and I’m really pleased with the performance But…
As I mentioned on your earlier video there’s absolutely NO service information available for this product. I have been chasing my tail for over a month trying to get any kind of parts list or mechanical diagram or electrical schematic.
I was stunned when the customer rep tried to tell me that no manufacturer releases that information.
My champion actually included all the above with the manual as did Kohler as well Yamaha. In fact this is probably the only piece of equipment I have that doesn’t provide drawings & lists.
Again, I like the generator,tons of features, especially the outstanding display. Just hope I never have any trouble.
Thanks for watching I appreciate that
I don’t know if it’s because the xp4500 are still new they just haven’t released any of the schematics
@@GeneratorReviews
That may be the reason. Having a parts diagram & list instills confidence that parts & service will be readily available when the need arises. The opposite gives me concern and the fact still remains all those manufacturers I mentioned include in the owner manual a complete set of drawings with parts & part numbers.
I also discovered Duromax has withheld this info on virtually all their power equipment.
I’m still in contact with duropower inc. trying to convince them it’s beneficial to make service diagrams public.
Unfortunately more products are being designed as “no user serviceable” not only that but non repairable period, if it breaks throw it away.
Gavin, I’m retired on a limited income and living in a rural area on the Wa coast. The ability to service my equipment is vitally important.
@@jatoav8or I agree totally, Im running 2 weatinghouse df models with capability to parallel both of mine has all the parts to order and all info….. gotta have it
The 223cc engine is just a run of the mill hemi Honda clone. Idk why people get so worried about nothing, all the Chinese generator parts are interchangeable across engine displacements/block sizes with limited exception. Even the inverters are available if you can use Google and are willing to look at more than the first results page.
If you want parts for the duromax, just use champion parts....
The Westinghouse does have a main breaker, a carb drain, and a RV ready plug.
Thanks for these tests. I think I still would buy the Westinghouse.
Can you tell me what is the real difference between the Westinghouse iGen Dual Fuel Super Quiet inverter 4500 DF, 4500 DFc, and 4500 DFcv ? Thanks.
you o great videos
Westinghouse has a big inverter that's temping. Have you seen these yet? iGen11000DFc Dual fuel, 11000 peak 9000 running watts. Nice size.
Yes I have but haven’t reviewed it yet
Good job!
Thanks Jean
Westinghouse appears to be the superior product. Thanks
Great video Gavin! You have run times and said “on propane it’s 22 hours for both.” Curious to know how much propane you’re referring to. Would that be the standard 15 lb. bottle? Thanks!
That’s based on a 20 pound bottle of propane
I really liked the DuroMax but the price on them are significantly different. The Westinghouse is like 700 and the DuroMax is like 1300 average.
On the Westinghouse, if you switch the fuel selector to propane, while running on Gas, Will it not shut off the gas supply and therefore drain the carburetor? I am looking to purchases the Westinghouse, but would like to be sure of having fuel shut-off capability. Thank you!
Good evening. Thank you for all of the wonderful information, I have learned so much from your videos. My concern is maintenance of a Westinghouse 4500DF that is only fueled by propane. I experience difficulty getting down onto the ground to drain and change oil etc. Is there a way to permanently and safely elevate the generator on a pedestal of sorts to make these tasks easier? I thought about the possibility of using a motorcycle lift (temporary for maintenance) or a cement block platform with raised edges to raise it permanently. Vibration is a concern for the platform option and I certainly wouldn't want it to vibrate itself off of the platform. LOL The generator is housed in a roomy storage building with exhaust to outside and adequate air ventilation. There is plenty of room for whatever would be the best solution. Thanks again.
I will be doing maintenance videos for this Gen for the oil carburetor spark plug and best practices no need to worry about it my friend I got you.👍🏾😉
I use a motorcycle lift for generator and lawnmower/ tractor maintenance and it is just the ticket. Also makes a workbench at any height you need. Also for lifting heavy items to load into a pickup, I highly recommend a lift.
I just use a harborfreight oil suction device. Saves a lot of time and mess.
hi gavin, I liked your video on the duromax 9000 so I got one. however I have watched several videos of yours and I dont know if you have mentioned using the generators at higher altitude such as 5000 ft and up i know that you lose a certain amount of performance at higher places do you have any info that would be helpful to the people that use these generators from 5000 ft and higher?
The only thing I can tell you is if you know you’re going to be at that high altitude, you can install a high altitude jet kit that should help with the higher altitude. I don’t know if they have one available for that particular generator yet but that would be my recommendation.
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great review
Thanks
All I know is my Westinghouse 4500, has been bullet proof for three years, remote start is a must. And best of all it fits in my truck bed and my fifth wheel passes over it. The DuroMax would be too tall and my fifth wheel would swipe the top.
The westing house never reached 39.9 amps like the duromax, but the Westinghouse voltage stayed up at 116volts, and 36.6 amps. So the amps go up when the voltage goes down?
You can switch the Westinghouse to propane in order to shut off the fuel and drain the carburetor
Already the duramax pull out handle is on top makes it very nice very convenient the Western house is on the bottom Not as handy
Great job on the content! I’m looking for something for my small casita travel trailer and something for home emergency if the power were to be out for an extended time. If you had to buy a dual fuel one today what would you recommend? Thanks!
If you just needing 120 volts, these two are perfect but if you need 240 V, you probably wanna look at the Genmax 6000ied that one should cover you for the RV and the home back up
Thank you!!!! Keep the content coming!!!
Great video! I cant see that you've done a video where the Westinghouse 4500DF cut off. Do you know how high it can go before it shuts down? I can tell it goes farther than the regular 4500 but curious how much farther. Any thoughts?
I need to get the highest inverter voltage I can for right around $1000ish and the 4500DF is looking like the winner.
The highest I’ve seen it go is 37amps before cutting off
I'm going with the Westinghouse only because I don't think the Duromax will fit under my tonneau cover! Gavin you do a great job!
🙏🏾Thanks Wendell
Gavin, I would like to see the duel fuel westinghouse igen 4500 vs. champion duel fuel 4500. can't decide between these two. Thanks.
I will work on it for you
When talking about main breakers so said the Westinghouse doesn't have one.. but it does.
The Westinghouse has a main breaker / switch that you can turn on and off to isolate the generator power from the load? Please let me know because I know it has a resettable 30 amp breaker but not a switch that you can turn on and off
@@GeneratorReviews it says main breaker.... right below the red switch. Upper left front panel.
@@chrisanderson8553 Oh OK that turns the generator on and off that actually kills the engine, on the Duromax the breaker actually kills the power shut off the power to the load
Granted I've never got my hands on either of these generators bout wouldn't switching the Westinghouse to the propane mode shut off the gasoline to the carb? I'd imagine that would be what that switch is, is just simply a gasoline shut off valve.
Enjoying the videos!
I should’ve showed that in the video but once you switch to propane it stalls the generator
Happy New Year 🎊🎈
@@GeneratorReviews dose it stall instantly? Would love to see that on video, I have several generators alerdy but would like to get one of these in the near future and looking to learn as much about them before buying one.
Happy new year to you as well!
@@tdm8817 I will include it on the next video stalls instantly
I like the display on the duromax but it looks like the gas fluorescent type. Westinghouse house looks led. Not sure the duromax display would take a lot of bumps. Could be wrong of course.
Which generator SURGE PROTECTOR would you recommend for me? I connect my generators to my house for back up power.
That’s actually my next video👍🏾
Gavin, you actually showed the "MAIN BREAKER" as you stated that the Westinghouse had none. 😇
Did I really 😅 I’m sorry I probably missed that.
@@GeneratorReviews, I just came across your channel today and have subscribed and "Liked" about a dozen videos! What great content! Figured you were a Texan and just came across your video about the winter apocalypse. We're out by Fredericksburg in The Hill Country. Please keep the content coming... it's much appreciated!
I am in the market for a dual fuel with remote start and push button start so that I can use a 2 wire start from my solar inverter to charge my system.
Aim’s Inverter makes a great inverter generator for auto start
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Hey, just wanna let you know on the Western house generator if you switch from gasoline to propane that will shut the gasoline off to it and it’ll run the carburetor dry
That’s good to know👍🏾
Can you do this same comparison except on the big boys? Around 15 watt size.
Yes I will do that 👍🏾
When you turned the microwave on with the Westinghouse, the amps were 36.8. When you turned the microwave on with the Duramax the amps were 39.8. That is 3 amps more with the Duramax. Why did the current draw change for the same load?
The amps changes because of other loads on the circuit may have been drawing more at that particular moment. The battery charger, A/C and refrigerator could have been pulling 1 amp more each. I always try to look at the big picture +- 2 to 3 amps.
Thanks David for watching and sharing this, My subscribers always amazing me, you guys are awesome 😎
The load between the test was almost identical, about 4150 watts. The reason the amps were higher on the Duromax is the voltage was about 10 volts lower than the Westinghouse at max load. The lower the voltage, the higher the amperage required to make same wattage. Westinghouse had better high load voltage support. Probably why it didn't trip during the test.
Please invest in an steadycam, your viwer will appreciate it. Unfortunately I couldn't pass the second minute. Hopefully you shared some valuable information.
Yes I did finally found stability option sorry
Westinghouse has a fuel shutoff for gas selection, it's not on the front panel
To funny on the westing house it says main breaker right under the power switch. Also when you switch the fuel from fuel to propane it will run the fuel out of the carburetor.
Hey Gaven I wasn’t following what you said about running carb out, you can let it run till empty correct? With propane you can shut valve on tank and run it dry as well so there is no vapor…… where is the benefit? Just curious and thank you Sir!! Best channel on the tubes yall! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
When you shut the valve, it allows the carburetor to run dry, leaving gas in the carburetor gums up and it ruins it. The benefit is emptying the carburetor before storing it with gas in it.
Yes, you’re right propane you just shut off valve. It’s a cleaner fuel.
@@GeneratorReviews I run non ethanol which is more forgiving but what i was saying is Ill run mowers and all till all the gas is run out and it cuts off, cant you do that to anything?
@@Eroc556 yes you can👍🏾
@@GeneratorReviews thank you Sir just making sure Im not hurting equipment…. You have such a great channel.
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I think on the westinghouse you just turn the fuel selector to propane, then run it untill the carb runs out of fuel.
I know the Westinghouse comes with its own regulator. Can you run these off a dual propane tank set up to avoid the need to shut it down to change tanks?
Yes you can actually do that
Can either of these fit in the back of your truck under a hard tonneau cover?
I think it’s the Westinghouse that can fit under the cover
Will these generators run a 2 hp deep well pump?.I like the idea of low thd for that pump.
A 1 HP submersible well pump will require a 2.5 KW internally regulated generator to operate the pump. A 30 amp breaker means the pump is smaller than 2 hp will use ~11 amps/2000 watts during operation and will require a 4 KW internally regulated generator to operate the pump
It should definitely be okay if it’s a 120v pump
@@GeneratorReviews Thanks Gavin. It is on a 220 30a breaker
@@sh839c OK this will not do it I’m working on my 220V generators comparison please.
If you haven’t subscribe go ahead and do so now so you can get my updated video
@@GeneratorReviews Subscribed, thanks for the help.
Thinking about purchasing the duromax, have seen a few comments that it’s hard to get to the dipstick to change oil. Is this true?
I’m pretty sure the people leaving comments like that can’t get to the dipstick in their car either. I don’t think it’s hard to get to it
In this class honda aside what would you say is the quietest generator you have tested. Thanks
The champion 4500 is the quietest one for sure
If you meant inverter generator I would look at the genarac iq3500 it is ultra silent
@@GeneratorReviews thank you
Let’s see the Duromax ih9000 vs the PowerHorse 7000i and the blueEtti 5500 battery generator vs the clean green machine 7000 battery generator with full load test and also with the battery generator how long it will last will full load test and how long it will take to recharge them and see what decibel sound levels are between the powerhorse and the Duromax at full load
Now that’s a hell of a test!
I can already tell you that the Duromax 9000 would come out on top but I really want to test the Powerhorse 7500 vs the Honda Eu7000
I’m also working on the Duromax 9000 parallel kit video
Happy new year 🎊 WatUp Chief
Please keep the video ideas coming I appreciate your feedback
@@GeneratorReviews awesome and happy new year to ya too as well man 👊🏽👍🏽
I think on the westinghouse if you're on gas and switch to propane without a bottle it will run out the carb and shutoff draining the carb like a fuel switch
I haven’t tried that out. I have to try it out.
Why do you think in the Westinghouse vs Onan test the Westinghouse shut off right away when the microwave was added but it ran it good in this video.
Do you have any thoughts on that?
That’s not the same Generator this one’s the dual fuel version in the other one that was just a gas generator
I guess with the additional hardware for propane I need to test the two models against each other
I would like to see the comparison between the westinghouse models!
@@hoss_ironsights Which models are you talking about the dual fuel and the gas models comparison
@@GeneratorReviews yes sir. Would like to see comparison between the duel fuel and the gasoline only models. Thanks for your videos!
when you quote propane run time is that for a 20 pound bottle?
Yessir that is correct
@@GeneratorReviews Thank you for the rapid reply. I just found your channel since I've been hunting for a new generator for hurricane season! Great information,
Between these 2 and the Champion 4650 which would you pick for camping?
The champion is quieter. I would get the champion 4500 dual fuel.
Thanks for asking the question Tim that would have been my question too and the champion is the way to go, Thanks for the confirmation Galvin
Can I hook this up to a transfer switch on my house?
Yes you can, but you can only run 120 V appliances.
Are you sure you can't turn the Westinghouse gas off to drain the carburetor? I've seen other reviews where they say you can
I’m pretty sure you can’t because this is the dual fuel model not the gas model you can on the gas model😊
You can drain the carb by using the selector switch.
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How many BTU are your AC’s
My Rv has two 13,500 BTU AC system with soft start
Duromax looks more robust, but is several hundred dollars more in price