Is it even a question with crafting bag being locked behind it? Yes you can stuff all your crafting mats into your bag but that becomes cumbersome with alts very fast. Alternatively you can be very specific at what you use and thus keep or have a mule just for that but logging in and out with mule ans stashing and withdrawing mats is more annoying than it sounds. If you want to just play, have alts and do not constantly micro manage your inventory and bank it is a must.
Very informative! Let me just say, as someone that doesn't always have Plus, but is an avid housing builder.... Plus IS worth it. When I sub or during a free to play ( Plus ) week, I have a flurry of activity going on. I'm finishing houses ( atm I have 5 that are 1/2 build ) leveling up Antiquities and Jewelry on my 2nd account, doing dungeons on both accounts and finishing up DLC zones on my 2nd account. I won't sub on both at the same time, but when I have a lot of spare time and the funds at the same time, I do sub consistently, but it might be my main account for 2 months and then my 2nd account for a month.
It doesn't help that we aren't particularly privy to every "free" week/weekend that they're going to run either. Its value is there for those that play the game and choose to use the service, but it sounds like you've got a system worked out!
@@Courier66Six Kinda sorta I do have a system worked out. 2 of the Free to Plays are easy to predict. Usually the 2nd one of the year, comes when the new DLC is launched, with Consoles, So on PC I generally have 2 weeks knowing it's coming. The 4th depending on if they do 4.. is right around New Life Fiestival. The other two can be a bit unpredictable because they may or may not do 4.
Not until they negate ball groups and heal stacking in PvP and focus some massive love for PvP. Anything else is fully funded and available on PvE. PvE gets plenty of support where PvP has never been touched or progressed outside of gear effects.
Unfortunately while this is the truth, we will be getting some love for PvP beginning with U44. So something to consider. Yes, PvP has been left in the out in the proverbial cold... hoping for good things and a string of support and changes to it in the future (also, a datamined update to Cyro was found; not really gonna discuss it, but you're sure to find it if you look for it online).
@@Courier66Six oh look…they have the PvP community so beat down that any bandaid they push out is so very appreciated that acceptance is automatically assured. Appreciation is so very high for even the smallest amount of love that it is gulped down whole. Meanwhile ball groups continue harassing other players in droves…turning every single set that was supposed to assist the fight against heal stacking monkeys against the player base. Seriously…these individual players in a ball group could never compete on their own…and as failed PvE raiders they choose to coordinate heal stacking to farm AP and harass other PvP players who are there for fun. There is nothing fun about dying over and over trying to defend a keep along with 40+ players against 12 man ball group that is unkillable. They don’t even want the keep…they just farm the walls or inner keep with no care of flipping the flag… just harass other players for a couple points. The lowest class of individual…exploiting game mechanics to harass others.
We didn't have the craft bag for years and managed just fine. It's kind of a lazy way of thinking that it would be impossible to play the game without it.. is there a hinderance without it? To the people that have now experienced it, YES! This is where a P2W mentality is established from something that is only beneficial but doesn't actually alter or offer a(n) tangible "unfair" advantage. So, I would beg to differ with that mindset and opinion (albeit we're all free to our own line of thinking & expression) but do recognize its benefit and the desire one would have in obtaining and retaining it (I do!).
I guess it's very dependent ony our playstyle. If you're into housing then ESO+ is probalby kind of mandatory, but for anything else I don't see too much benefit. I bought all of the DLCs with gold and use my bank as crafting bag. Don't have anything else to put there anyway.
With the upcoming mental ill companions I won't be playing ESO any longer. I mean why did they need to announce it and not just put the character in the game for people to discover via the story? Why does anyone need to know that the character is non-binary? Again "Hey guys, look at what we did. We're so inclusive"
the reason is called ESG score. Large companies like Zenimax are chasing this because their CEOs are still mentally stuck in 2016 and think that having 100 kilowatt solar system on top of the server room that needs 1 megawatt every day, wearing rainbow pins in June and having DEI department somehow bring them more customers (+ it automatically gives them good press... because they think people still care about what Kotaku or IGN says). They issue quotas to lower execs to meet and for someone running MMO, the easiest, cheapest and least trouble-causing option is to introduce an NPC that player do not have to interact with at all if they choose so. Don't worry, this shit will go away eventually. Bud Light and Concord ESG/DEI fiascos are already making shock-waves and even the most out of touch board member will sooner or later wake up (or go bust like Firewalk)
It’s definitely worth it but only because the game is artificially made worse to boost the value of the subscription. It sucks but if u want to play the game and have it not be super annoying then you’re going to want to have eso plus…
I do believe the game is still playable and even enjoyable without 'plus'. You just can't play it like some people did/do in skyrim & take everything that isn't nailed down. There are shortcuts, workarounds, loopholes and other routes that can be taken in order to enjoy the game without some of what is offered by 'plus'. *I'm assuming this is reference to craft bag and dlc offer?
@@Courier66Six I reject that, the inventory and loot system is specifically engineered to have bloat that creates friction to coherence the player into buying eso plus. It’s an artificial form of value, I’ll eat the shit (because I enjoy the game) but don’t try to tell me that it’s candy.
I'm only giving it from what I am told, hear and what I myself have experienced. You have to consider that for quite some time that there was no such thing as a craft bag, and those of us playing at the time made do. I still know people, and 'know of' more, that still utilize the old methods in which to do so. Not attempting to misrepresent or obscure that the craft bag is a LARGE QoL upgrade here. I will concur that the inventory is by design cumbersome. As you stated though, it does improve the sale of ESO+, as well as the assortment of Assistants.
Not really worth it for casual player and I have more than 1k hours in steam I never touched the eso plus option mainly you can just wait for the free trial every year I almost finished all the dlc quests just missing deadlands. Its the fomo motivated this people to eso plus not really the storage
I can get that; they got me hooked by the craft bag and the thought process of cheaper crowns on a monthly basis. But as I've told others, what you're saying too; it isn't a(n) "essential" thing but does make a difference in QoL and some aspects of gameplay easier.
Is it even a question with crafting bag being locked behind it? Yes you can stuff all your crafting mats into your bag but that becomes cumbersome with alts very fast. Alternatively you can be very specific at what you use and thus keep or have a mule just for that but logging in and out with mule ans stashing and withdrawing mats is more annoying than it sounds. If you want to just play, have alts and do not constantly micro manage your inventory and bank it is a must.
I agree, I used to share a guild bank with others, and have alts to mule all the extra. I'm behind this line of reasoning!
Very informative!
Let me just say, as someone that doesn't always have Plus, but is an avid housing builder.... Plus IS worth it. When I sub or during a free to play ( Plus ) week, I have a flurry of activity going on. I'm finishing houses ( atm I have 5 that are 1/2 build ) leveling up Antiquities and Jewelry on my 2nd account, doing dungeons on both accounts and finishing up DLC zones on my 2nd account.
I won't sub on both at the same time, but when I have a lot of spare time and the funds at the same time, I do sub consistently, but it might be my main account for 2 months and then my 2nd account for a month.
It doesn't help that we aren't particularly privy to every "free" week/weekend that they're going to run either.
Its value is there for those that play the game and choose to use the service, but it sounds like you've got a system worked out!
@@Courier66Six Kinda sorta I do have a system worked out.
2 of the Free to Plays are easy to predict. Usually the 2nd one of the year, comes when the new DLC is launched, with Consoles, So on PC I generally have 2 weeks knowing it's coming.
The 4th depending on if they do 4.. is right around New Life Fiestival.
The other two can be a bit unpredictable because they may or may not do 4.
Not until they negate ball groups and heal stacking in PvP and focus some massive love for PvP. Anything else is fully funded and available on PvE. PvE gets plenty of support where PvP has never been touched or progressed outside of gear effects.
Unfortunately while this is the truth, we will be getting some love for PvP beginning with U44. So something to consider.
Yes, PvP has been left in the out in the proverbial cold... hoping for good things and a string of support and changes to it in the future (also, a datamined update to Cyro was found; not really gonna discuss it, but you're sure to find it if you look for it online).
@@Courier66Six oh look…they have the PvP community so beat down that any bandaid they push out is so very appreciated that acceptance is automatically assured. Appreciation is so very high for even the smallest amount of love that it is gulped down whole. Meanwhile ball groups continue harassing other players in droves…turning every single set that was supposed to assist the fight against heal stacking monkeys against the player base. Seriously…these individual players in a ball group could never compete on their own…and as failed PvE raiders they choose to coordinate heal stacking to farm AP and harass other PvP players who are there for fun. There is nothing fun about dying over and over trying to defend a keep along with 40+ players against 12 man ball group that is unkillable. They don’t even want the keep…they just farm the walls or inner keep with no care of flipping the flag… just harass other players for a couple points. The lowest class of individual…exploiting game mechanics to harass others.
Rich said on live stream that it's not possible to play the game without the craft bag. They created a problem and sold you the solution
We didn't have the craft bag for years and managed just fine. It's kind of a lazy way of thinking that it would be impossible to play the game without it.. is there a hinderance without it? To the people that have now experienced it, YES! This is where a P2W mentality is established from something that is only beneficial but doesn't actually alter or offer a(n) tangible "unfair" advantage.
So, I would beg to differ with that mindset and opinion (albeit we're all free to our own line of thinking & expression) but do recognize its benefit and the desire one would have in obtaining and retaining it (I do!).
I guess it's very dependent ony our playstyle.
If you're into housing then ESO+ is probalby kind of mandatory, but for anything else I don't see too much benefit.
I bought all of the DLCs with gold and use my bank as crafting bag. Don't have anything else to put there anyway.
With the upcoming mental ill companions I won't be playing ESO any longer. I mean why did they need to announce it and not just put the character in the game for people to discover via the story? Why does anyone need to know that the character is non-binary? Again "Hey guys, look at what we did. We're so inclusive"
the reason is called ESG score. Large companies like Zenimax are chasing this because their CEOs are still mentally stuck in 2016 and think that having 100 kilowatt solar system on top of the server room that needs 1 megawatt every day, wearing rainbow pins in June and having DEI department somehow bring them more customers (+ it automatically gives them good press... because they think people still care about what Kotaku or IGN says). They issue quotas to lower execs to meet and for someone running MMO, the easiest, cheapest and least trouble-causing option is to introduce an NPC that player do not have to interact with at all if they choose so. Don't worry, this shit will go away eventually. Bud Light and Concord ESG/DEI fiascos are already making shock-waves and even the most out of touch board member will sooner or later wake up (or go bust like Firewalk)
It’s definitely worth it but only because the game is artificially made worse to boost the value of the subscription. It sucks but if u want to play the game and have it not be super annoying then you’re going to want to have eso plus…
I do believe the game is still playable and even enjoyable without 'plus'. You just can't play it like some people did/do in skyrim & take everything that isn't nailed down. There are shortcuts, workarounds, loopholes and other routes that can be taken in order to enjoy the game without some of what is offered by 'plus'.
*I'm assuming this is reference to craft bag and dlc offer?
@@Courier66Six I reject that, the inventory and loot system is specifically engineered to have bloat that creates friction to coherence the player into buying eso plus. It’s an artificial form of value, I’ll eat the shit (because I enjoy the game) but don’t try to tell me that it’s candy.
I'm only giving it from what I am told, hear and what I myself have experienced. You have to consider that for quite some time that there was no such thing as a craft bag, and those of us playing at the time made do. I still know people, and 'know of' more, that still utilize the old methods in which to do so. Not attempting to misrepresent or obscure that the craft bag is a LARGE QoL upgrade here.
I will concur that the inventory is by design cumbersome. As you stated though, it does improve the sale of ESO+, as well as the assortment of Assistants.
Not really worth it for casual player and I have more than 1k hours in steam I never touched the eso plus option mainly you can just wait for the free trial every year I almost finished all the dlc quests just missing deadlands. Its the fomo motivated this people to eso plus not really the storage
I can get that; they got me hooked by the craft bag and the thought process of cheaper crowns on a monthly basis. But as I've told others, what you're saying too; it isn't a(n) "essential" thing but does make a difference in QoL and some aspects of gameplay easier.
No
No. The answer is no.
To each their own :)