That's exactly what I did :) I woke up to this in my feed so I paused it to go make coffee and then sit outside and listen to it while the mountain, creek, and valley come alive.🌄🙏
From 11:00 forward. I really needed that, thank you for confirming that it’s okay to be a healthy skepticism. That it’s okay to ask questions, and maybe not take everything literally. God bless you.
Mind blowing how articulate, straight forward, knowledgeable they are. Such a God given gift, plus we can surely bet these two studied very hard & smart. The Holy Spirit definitely brings it back to remembrance.
I truly enjoy when they breakdown the manuscript variance. People outside of academia/scholarly study at least 10-15+ years ago read Bart Ehrmans take on the New Testament and the "errors" he found with the texts. It was a huge weight in some athiests pockets to pull out a variance issue or a difference in the text to drop on a christian who wasnt versed in the subject. To basically say "discount the bible because of the errors/variations in the texts" is like saying throw out the library because of a gramatical difference between authors/scribes.
Guys, is there anyway you can go on the Joe Rogan podcast and evangelize? He claims that if you reach out to him he will bring you on the show. He talks about our God in a manner that is not accurate, or at least you have addressed his questions at some point. But you guys could actually bring truth to his gigantic following. Please consider!!!
And how about John Macarthur, Ray comfort, Dorre Love, Cliff & Stuart Knechtle, Joe Rogan and Logan Paul; Dorre Love can step in when Joe and Logan start swearing, Ray Comfort to make them understand that Jesus is not just a nice guy, but is coming back for every unbelieving ass; Cliff and Stuart for showing them solid evidence, and John Macarthur to back it all up with deep understanding of scripture, timelines and the authority of the Gospels.
Be intentional pursue God daily. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18🙌🙏💕 "Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. In all circumstances, give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus."
The young lady's question was such a good one - how can we decipher through our scattered thoughts to what really God is trying to tell us. I don't know if this is right or not, but I try to take my worry, humbly, to Christ in prayer and always remember the commandments, the pillars of common sense for life. To quiet the noise and open the inner ears to listen, it helps me to repeat the Lord's prayer.
I love seeing you guys preaching prayer, adoration and confession! I can see the humility and true acts of contrition in this video, very well done Stuart, keep up the great stuff both of you, it’s a wonderful thing you’re doing. 😊
Thank you Cliff and Stuart for such an outstanding ministry. I declare that Jesus is my God and my Savior. Jesus bless all our journeys to salvation ✝️🙏💞✌
SINCE I WAS A KID , I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GOD AND THROUGH THE YEARS HE SHOWED ME THAT HE'S TRULY THERE, WATCHING , PROTECTING, AND LOVE US , DON'T LET THE NON BELIEVERS TRICK US THT HE DOESN'T EXIST 😊 SOMETHING THT JESUS SAID MADE A LOT OF SENSE
Uhm hello everyone in the comment section can I humbly ask for a prayer request over a person that I know I really can't give infos about this person but this person needs prayer and is struggling a lot in life I ask for a prayer 😢 may everything be at God's will God bless you guys.
Cliff said he KNOWS that God's character is good. How does he KNOW that? Is there a way to know that? 13:09 Very sincere question. I am struggling with my faith rn. @ 15:02 , Stuart says it too.
Goodness is the foundation of reality. Yet evil is present in reality too. How can I make the statement, "goodness is the foundation of reality;" When there's evil and suffering present too? I can make the statement because good is superior to what's bad in every imaginable way. There are two concepts of Good which need to be defined before I can proceed. That which is intrinsically good, meaning the goodness is in and of itself, the goodness of something intrinsically good depends on nothing outside of itself to be good. God is intrinsically good, and all that's good is an outflow of his goodness i.e. God is the source of all that's good. The second concept of good, is that's what's extrinsically good. Meaning its goodness is dependent upon something outside of itself in order to be good. All created things can only be extrinsically good. All created things have a purpose and when something operates within its design parameters, it's considered to be extrinsically good. When it's operating outside of its design parameters it's considered bad. I'm systematically laying out Biblical concepts for you to understand, so that you can make sense of reality from a Biblical perspective. God is the only intrinsic good in existence. Everything that's created is created because God ordained it, and everything created has a purpose. We don't always know the purpose but usually we do. Everything that's operating within design parameters is extrinsically good. That's why when God finished and rested the seventh day, God said, "the creation is good." Initially after creation all of reality was operating within design parameters. I've purposefully haven't entered created sentience beings yet, but I will. When I made the statement, "good is superior to what's bad in every imaginable way." I'm going explain why I'm so confident, so as to make the claim. When something is bad it's always a corruption of that which is good. For example, everyone's heard of the concept of a bad apple. It's impossible to have all bad apples, meaning you can't determine what's a bad apple unless, you understand what constitutes a good apple. This sounds simple and it is. For what's good is superior to what's bad in that what's bad has to be a corruption of what's good. For good can and does exist independent of what's bad. Now I'll introduce the concept of evil. Rock, matter and energy can't be evil nor can a rock experience evil. Evil always involves conscious sentient beings. It's in the concept of evil, where most of the issues arise concerning suffering. All humans were designed by God to unique individuals i.e. everyone is one of a kind. We were also created with free will. Free will is a necessity because love is our design parameter. We were created to be in fellowship with God and with our neighbors. Created as unique one of a kind free will being, we can do what we want, when we want. As long as our motivation is love. conscious being makes cognitive choices every day. What determines the choice one will make, is dependent upon one's strongest desire. For example, I like cookies, but I feel like I'm getting fat. One of those desires will be stronger than the other and I'll make a choice. Love, when that's the strongest desire. Love will be motivating our choices and when we're loving, we're operating within our design parameters and we're free to do whatever we want to do. Evil is the inverse of love and it's because of evil that there's suffering in this present age. God created everything to be good. Freewill beings departed from the royal law i.e. the law of love. God who's intrinsically good, pulled back his goodness partially. We currently live in a shadow world of what's to come. We experience both good, bad and evil in this world. God is love and love never dominates another, that's why God partially pulls back his presence. We all experience what's good, what's bad and evil from others. If we're honest with ourselves i.e. abiding in the truth. We'll admit that we're perpetrators of evil ourselves. The very thing we say we hate, evil, this we do to our fellow human beings. God started the creation in a state of goodness, and he promises to bring it again into a state of goodness. The question is, will we cooperate with him? Or instead determine to be selfish beast, that want it our way at the expense of others. God didn't leave us here floundering in our own shit show. God personally entered into his creation and lived a life that we can't live, and he willingly suffered for our behalf. So that some would decide to choose the good and shun the evil. For God is all knowing, and he intuitively knows what evil is. Whereas we're finite beings and we learn by experience. Hopefully friend, all the pain, suffering and evil that you experienced, coupled with all the good you're experienced in this life. Will drive you into God's arms, for God loves all his creatures. He created you with a purpose. The purpose being that you would experience him as fully as you can for eternity and that you would coexist with likeminded people and enjoy them too. The bonds that will unite all, is love. I hope this explanation helps you. In conclusion, we're currently existing in a shadow world. Some will experience an eternity with God and receive his goodness. while other will spend an eternity separated from his blessing. God forces no one, for he won't dominate his creatures, those in Christ will be drawn to God, while those outside of Christ, will flee from the Holy One. For the unrepentant will hate being in his presence and God will grant them their desire.
@@andrewwright9960 Your point is valid, but and there's always a but, lol. a proper interpretation of the data requires one having a proper perspective. Perhaps why you think it's impossible for a human to have a relationship with God, that starts from a book as you said. Is because you think the book is all there is. Many Christians have had subjective experiences with God. I think you're expecting that there needs to be an objective experience. I can understand why you would think this would be necessary. But I think your narrowing your perspective. For you think based upon your experience that most things in reality need to be objectively observed. Yet some of the most important things in life aren't objective, rather their subjective. For instance, a mother's love towards a child. That love that child feels is subjective and it's real. I also understand your concern and your reasoning, "why doesn't God objectively present himself." I can't answer this question. I can state what conclusion that I've come to, and I believe it's reasonable. We are finite beings, meaning there's much we don't know. We learn through experience. The Bible teaches that God created everything in a state of goodness. And in order to remain in that state. Humanity will, will by necessity need to line up with God's will. What is God's will? God is love and he created each and every one of us uniquely, with diverging interest i.e. likes and dislikes. He also created us to be free i.e. free to choose what we desire to do. Every conscious choice you make is ultimately determined by your strongest desire amongst multiple other desires. For instance, you desire a donut, it will taste good. Yet you feel like you're getting fat, but you're hungry. Whichever is the strongest desire, will win out and you will make a decision. God desires that human's strongest desire will be the desire to love. To love him and all the other people in our sphere of influence. Where am I going on with this? Love is and always will be a choice. In order for love to be genuine it can't be cohered. The God of the Bible is an omni\all being. meaning omni and all are prefixes. For instance, God is all powerful or omnipotent. Love doesn't dominate another, perhaps friend your viewing the data with the wrong perspective, thinking that God should relate to humans as humans relate to each other. The Bible teaches that God took upon himself humanity and he did indeed dwell amongst us. But the Bible is full of incidents where humans met God in his unmitigated form and humans didn't react well. I think the reason why God doesn't show himself, is that he desires for his creatures to make the choice to fallow him freely. That's my perspective on the matter.
Concerning the “Overthinking” question or discerning God, the flesh and the enemy, I recommend a book called ‘Christian in Complete Armour’ (abridged simplified version, three volumes) I recommend this book to all believers to learn how to live in the battle field of this world.
I would love to have a sit down conversation with Cliffe about his view on the "variations" in the original manuscripts. A variation does NOT mean error, they don't even have the same definition, so you CAN'T use the words synonymously. And he's got such a sad, incorrect and faithless view of the difference between the pagan, Alexandrian perverted manuscripts, and the actual preserved original texts that were quoted from by the church fathers, so we know that John 8:1-11 and Mark 16 were in the original manuscripts, because they were quoted from in the first century, before 100AD.
I think that the errors in these religious books serve as evidence that they were written by humans and thats not to say they are not true but thats to say us humans are not perfect.So what has worked for me is to overlook the errors and learn what message the bible is transmitting and how that message can help me in my pursuit of God
I am not convinced that if there were no errors in the bible we will be better Christians than we are,it all goes down to what truth are you looking for when reading the bible,if its God you are seeking then the human errors are out of the way,I mean you yourself can hardly write an essay without errors
There shouldn't be any errors at all. Thats why its highly recommended to read the bible thats close its authentic translation of Greek/Hebrew. I would recommend the NKJV if the KJV is too difficult to read. But yes I agree with you in all that even with human mistakes that it shouldn't be what takes us away from God for we aren't worshipping men but rather our Lord and Savior.
I believe in God. But I always have this question. If all good things come from God, do all bad things come from God too? Clearly I need to talk to Cliff and Stewart.
Everything in this world supposed to from an obvious non existent god thing if this Cliffe Knechtle was anything to go by. Cliffe Knechtle said he was created by God thing and Stuart Knechtle his son said he was created by a god thing. Cliffe Knechtle helped created his son Stuart Knechtle by having sex with his wife and just like Cliffe Knechtle's father had sex with Cliffe Knechtle's mother.No point in sex if if there was such thing as a god thing.
Thank you for asking questions. I don't know the full answer but after watching a lot of videos I feel confident saying that evil comes from the free will of those who abuse the gifts that come from God. He is similarly responsible for the evil that man does unto themselves as a father is for the actions of his son. He can only guide so much before the free will of a man chooses what path he will go down. We are human, we get it wrong sometimes. But just because God created us, it doesn't mean that God created evil to act on us. @sudhakardubey6622 is right I think in that genesis talks about the origins of man and thus evil. I would watch more videos of cliff's to find out which ones and his thoughts as well. God bless you. :)
@@aj-wl6xi A non god thing didn't and hasn't created anything or anyone, if you want to find out how you were created go ask your parents or attend a sex education class.
To my understanding no, God will allow bad things to happen but most bad things happen because of free will, some people use that free will for great things like feeding the poor, and others steel. There are bad things that happen outside of human control and I’m not going to pretend I know why, but God often will use these things to achieve good, but he doesn’t necessarily cause it to happen.
Hi cliff I'm 15yo I've done many sin I ignored the ten commandments except take others life but I've turn against evil, but my mind is swearing and pushing god away but my heart won't accept it but it sometime get there I don't want to blasphemy god really sad about that
I take the Bible literally for what it says. And my faith has yet to be shook. There are no contradictions in the Bible, and the Bible certainly doesn't contradict "science", because the Bible isn't a scientific book. However, honest science does back up what the Bible teaches. History backs up what the Bible teaches. Geography backs up what the Bible teaches. Geology backs up what the Bible teaches. Archeology backs up what the Bible teaches. Sociology backs up what the Bible teaches. Psychology backs up what the Bible teaches. Astrology backs up what the Bible teaches. Theology backs up what the Bible teaches. Philosophy backs up what the Bible teaches.
I’d like to know why you have crosses in your church, why you do services on Sundays, and if you keep the Passover The Cross •Matthew 4:10 •Psalm 135:15-18 •Leviticus 19:4 The Sabbath (Saturday/7th day) •Exodus 20:8-11 •Genesis 2:2-3 •Luke 4:16-21 The Passover •Matthew 26:17-19 •Numbers 9:2-14
A skeptic is a person who doesn't believe something is true unless they see evidence. As a skeptic, you refuse to believe your sister saw a ghost - after all, she can't prove it. Skeptics are doubters - they need to see proof before they will believe. Good evidence and proof
I gotta ask then , what’s the most accurate Bible to read ? I heard the textus receptus is most accurate , but maybe there a more accurate ones. What would they be ?
I can't remember where I have heard it but it was about that, if we are going to heaven we won't remember our relatives, friends etc who didn't made it to heaven Is this somewhere writtn in the bible?
Just because you have a new body etc doesn't mean you'll not know who is there. One of the biggest things to realize is God is gracious and merciful why would he make it to where you don't know anyone in heaven. Not so you will know your family and others. Because God loves relationship which is one of our biggest things we enjoy on earth
I have a question about God, if our complex design is one of the main beliefs, then why doesn't the abilities of God make us think there's a God that made God? God has the ability to think, the mind is a very complex thing, he has the ability to create, another very complex thing. He couldn't have made his own mind or abilities. They themself are the most complex thing to exist if he does, what made him so complex?
God is eternal.nothing made God he was always there. He's the non caused cause. Meaning he never had a beginning. Which means he has no end. If God wanted to he could go against freewill and force us to believe in him. But forced love is not love and not freewill. So God lays the choice in front of us. To either look at the evidence or push it away because our bar of evidence is set so high
@@OneTrueLogic if he existed forever why did he all of a sudden create everything. If it's been forever. He could've done it trillions and trillions of years ago then right?
@@GoodTerror21401 we don't know why he did it when he did but it was perfect timing for me. Yes he could make creation anytime. Whether he did it then or 15,000 years ago doesn't show he's not real. If he's God he can do what he wants. In the Bible Jesus performed miracles right in front of crowds. But some believed and it says some didn't. Even if he showed up today people would still doubt. It depends on how open you are to God. If you're completely closed off then there's no way for God to exist
@@Theo_Skeptomai you claimed I incurred a debt of evidence. Which you be true if, and only if, I were attempting to convince someone of what I had said. Being that I am not attempting to do so I have incurred no such debt. But you are correct I shouldn't have presupposed an assumption on your part
Is the root of ignorance, has to do with pride, And is this pride realistically a foundation in man, As with my schizophrenia I am generally sceptical about that I have it. Which is common among us.
Can Someone help me? I have a lot of questions and doubts on the existence of God. I am not very knowledgeable on theology but i was talking to an atheist who made me believe that there wasnt a God. Can someone please help me who is knowledgeable on this. Isnt it possible that the Universe is eternal, and energy has been around forever? I haveway more questions but can someone answer this first
@@Theo_Skeptomai The first law stated that way is a philosophical statement meaning its not necessarily true. The 1st law is that the total amount of usable energy in a closed system is constant. So, as time goes on the amount of usable energy decreases and the amount of unusable energy increases. One day we are all gonna go into heat death and i think everyone has realized that. The Universe had to have a beginning because if we are in a closed system there is only so much energy in there, if the universe was eternal we would have ran out of energy a long time ago. Like if you had been driving your car for all of eternity then you wouldn’t have any gas right now. Same thing is true with the universe. So basically I have come to the conclusion after a little bit of research that the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics show that the universe cant be eternal. So it had to have a beginning and a creator. I am by no means an expert on this. Another question I have that completely hurts my brain is that if the universe is eternal/has an infinite timeline, How would we have gotten to this point in time? Because If there were an infinite number of days before today, this day would have never happened.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Is it more reasonable to believe that in the beginning matter and energy, or is it more reasonable to believe in the beginning God? I think its more reasonable to believe in a God, because my experience in life is that life does not come from non life.
He said 200-400 thousand manuscript variants, meaning changes. Not saying there were that many different pieces of manuscripts. (Edit Sorry, nvm it was later in the video lol)
I think he misspoke when he said Greek manuscripts. The 25,000 he made mention of, if I'm not mistaken, is from all manuscripts around that time. The 5,800 are the Greek manuscripts, you are correct.
The Bible does not say that God doesn’t change his mind. It says that God does not change. He can change his mind. He allows Moses to bargain with him to spare the city of Sodom and Gamorra. if he could find such an such amount of righteous people in the city. Of course, he did not find such and such amount of righteous people in the city. The Bible also does not claim that God is all love. It Says God is love. It also Says God is just so that means he must punish Sin.
From the very beginning God had already decided to destroy the cities, no matter what. This shows us that we must accept God's judgement even when his decisions are not our desired choices, because in truth, Abrams didn't want to see the people in the cities perish. He had compassion for the wicked and did not want to see their destruction ultimately committed by their sins and wickedness. So if we take a different approach , rather than seeing it as a "bargain" it was actually more so, of a request. He requested that those cities be spared, and that request was denied. God, will sometimes say no to our requests. However, we can consider how he did answer Abrams request but in a different way. His family was spared (Lot and his daughters). Although Abrahams mediatory works didn't spare the cities, it did bring about the salvation of Abrams nephew Lot. Hope this clears some stuff a bit :)
The one I always think of in regard to changing his mind is Hezekiah. Through Isaiah God told him he was going to die, afterward he prayed and asked God to remember his loyalty toward him and before Isaiah even finished leaving the palace God told him to go back and tell Hezekiah he would be granted 15 more years of life.
@pcdeltalink036 We can see it as a test for Hezekiah. He knew nothing could be done, and so he wept and prayed, asking God to spare his life. God knew that he would pray, but Hezekiah didn't. The test was to see how he would respond to the dire circumstance. If he had not done anything and just accepted his unfortunate life then he would have died. But because of his prayer, God intervened and aaved him. Here, it shows how Hezekiah changed his mind about God after seeing how gracious God was in extending his life 15 more years.
If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him (1 Corinthians 3:17): Let every man be careful of how he lays his foundation. The only foundation we are to lay is that of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 3:11). The foundations of gold, silver, and precious stones are of *_good intentions_* that glorifies the Father; it is by this that we are saved. However, the foundations of wood, hay, and stubble are of the world; these will be burned up and the man shall suffer loss, but he will be saved by the foundations of gold, silver, and precious stones that glorify the Father (1 Cor 3:12-15). Our bodies are God’s temple. If any man builds wickedness and evilness deliberately, God will destroy him (Hebrews 10:26). As we grow in God’s righteousness, we receive the mind of Christ, who has the mind of God. As we grow, we get rid of the wood, hay, and stubble and we walk in the power and spirit of God through Jesus. The temple of God is holy-which temple are you? (1 Cor 3:17)
Romans 8:38 ye of little faith in the assurance of our faith in Christ Nothing can take us out of His hand apart from full on apostasy. The truth is we are sealed in the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of our faith
I do not wish to argue with anyone but I’m curious as to why the Bible states Adam and Eve are created by god and essentially are the predecessors to the human race but that entails it having anyone else for their children to procreate with meaning that the point in time we live in the human race would be horribly inbred and deformed . 2. What was gods purpose for creating the universe/life? And if the argument is that god had to have created everything because something can’t come from nothing but how did god do it? How did god come to be by following that same logic without a brain or nervous system, consciousness can’t exit and can’t be created if it doesn’t exist in the first place. I an avid atheist don’t think that you should stop believing but I do believe religion to be a great way to find solice and purpose in life and that’s great but I personally believe it’s a silly say to guide your beliefs and ideals. Any thoughts from other atheists and religious people alike are welcome. 😁
As to that how God came from nothing. We know that universe and everything had the beginning millions years ago. That means that it had to come from something. God does not have beginning. God is outside of space and time. If something is eternal it does not have beginning and we know God is eternal but we also know universe is not eternal. We know when it was born. That's why God does not have a greator but space does. Does that make sense, I tried to explain the best I could.
@@ellaalisaqok, my only other question is why? Why create life why create the universe why put people in heaven to start? If everyone was happy and healthy and had everything they want they wouldn’t sin or do bad things worthy of going to hell, but if they did then send them to hell. And( random thought) why hasn’t god eradicated satan, satan isn’t on gods level because he’s an angel (a fallen one ) but regardless. God hell shouldn’t be used for the place the bad people go forever it should be a correctional place that teaches sinners the ways of living by the rules of life and heal their minds and bring back to heaven. Idk tho
@@mutemenought3292 Okay so for the first question why create life? The same way why parents create children. It is out of love. As why not we all are in heaven where everything is good and if you still sin you go to hell. First demons who were once angles lived in heaven but they still chose to go against God and God did cast them out. They all will get the same end. Wich is they will be burned in hell in the end. Second we don't live in unfair world because God greated us to live here and not in heaven. God greated Adam and Eve who lived in paradise. There was no sin or unfairness. They chose to go against God's will and now we live in unfair world. But we will go to heaven in the end if we accept that Jesus died on cross for our sins.
@@mutemenought3292 as to why God does not eradicate satan. I don't know. All I know he will do it but not yet. But I know God's character is all knowing and loving and whatever reason it is I trust him. He is giving us time to repent and ask for forgivness. As for the hell. It is your choice if you wan't to follow God or not. If you choose to live seperate from God when you are living you will also live seperate from God forever (hell) . It is called hell because living without God and light forever is toture itself. Somepeople even call it the dead of the soul since God gives you life and if you seperate from God it will be taken away too and it will be very painful since your soul would be burned in fire. That's why you would be forever in hell, eternaly gone from life and God. But it is not said clearly what hell is so idk
Also, the bible doesn't make it clear whether Adam and Eve were the only humans created by God. It just says they were the first. It's likely that God created Adam and Eve first and then many more people that could procreate together.I am also willing to bet that you base your beliefs and morals off of religious values, whether you want to believe it or not.
Sometimes I wonder if Cliffe doesn’t understand that we are living in a fallen world. Especially when he speaks about tragedy and wondering if it’s Gods fault.
Can someone answer my question, I belive in Jesus Christ but why God is all knowing and he was disappointed by what peaople had begun and he killed them by flood , so is he all knowing?
Yes. He knows all things. He shows His judgement and hatred of sin throughout the Bible. Ultimately the judgement of hell shows His holiness and perfection whilst salvation and heaven demonstrates His perfect love (Romans 5.8).
Jesus himself verified the OT books are the Word of God and complete, which Ezra had compiled at that time and Jesus used (the same we use today). The book of Enoch was not included nor were the other non-Biblical scrolls. Jesus then commissioned his apostles to write the gospels and NT. The Bible is complete and as his favorite disciple, John (“who Jesus loved most of all”) wrote in the last verse of the the Bible: “If anyone adds to the words in this book, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” So yes, the Bible that we have today is complete. OT verified by Jesus himself and NT written by his commissioned apostles who personally knew Him or knew someone who closely knew Him.
JOHN 8 : 32 'AND THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE' JESUS 'ISA' 'YESHUA' 'MESSIAH' IS THE LIVING GOD.☝️🙏😇 THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK OF ETERNAL LIFE.☝️🙏😇
Hmmmm.... no. Human ignorance comes from sin. Since sin separates us from ultimate Truth (God Himself), it's possible for us to be ignorant, or be mistaken, or to lie... But skepticism and doubt.... that comes from Jesus. Jesus commands us to be skeptical in Matthew 7:15-20. Because we as humans don't know everything, it is very important for us to question and seek answers to our doubts.
In many religious contexts, skepticism itself is not considered a sin. In fact, questioning and critical thinking can be encouraged as part of seeking truth and understanding. However, if skepticism leads to a refusal to accept evidence or alternative viewpoints in a dogmatic or closed-minded manner, it could potentially lead to sinful behaviors such as arrogance, prejudice, or dishonesty. So, it's not skepticism per se that is considered sinful, but rather how it is practiced and the attitudes it fosters.
In many religious contexts, skepticism itself is not considered a sin. In fact, questioning and critical thinking can be encouraged as part of seeking truth and understanding. However, if skepticism leads to a refusal to accept evidence or alternative viewpoints in a dogmatic or closed-minded manner, it could potentially lead to sinful behaviors such as arrogance, prejudice, or dishonesty. So, it's not skepticism per se that is considered sinful, but rather how it is practiced and the attitudes it fosters.
@@katiesalomon even if that is true. Just because there are certain parts of the apocrypha that are repeated in the Bible or vice versa does not validate the books entirety, that simply does not make any sense. The book of Enoch was added during the council of Trent, in the year 1550, 1400 years after the biblical cannon was already established by the early church. It is a contortion and a very sad thing.
Stuart is being a bit economical with the truth when he says in debates with atheists they insist that in order for them to believe in God, God has to show up in front of them to reveal himself. I've watched plenty of debates between atheists and Cliffe and Stuart, atheists have never insisted such a thing to the best of my recollection, I'll be happy to be corrected on that. Atheist debaters tend to point out all the flaws that come with the Bible as they see it, rather than insist God show up in front of them, or they wont believe. As an atheist, it certainly wouldn't take much for me to change my mind 🙂
@@dentonhahn2907 Hey denton, hows it going?, hmm, if you're saying the bible tells us who God is, then he does not come across as a good character in lots of passages, more of a war God who smites his enemies. The Old Testament God bears little resemblance to the character of Jesus in the New Testament, yet Christians tell us they are one and the same being.
@@bonnie43ukty for sharing, I am a believer that enjoys challenging himself with hard questions. We exist in this world and we are under God's divine law. In the Old Testament sin was tend to be punished faster because grace was not revealed in christ yet. Once christ came grace was established and grace is a legal term. If you read revelations you can see that the same justice required for sin to be dealt with is happening in revelation. But grace is a period on the which sin is not judged and a way of an acquittal of sorts in Christ to avoid the punishment of sin and also to imbue you with the holy spirit which in itself is a seal like that of a king a surety of sorts until you get redeemed and passed unto a better body and a better life where sin won't battle within you. Make sense?
@bonnie43uk yes that is what I am saying. On what basis do you determine morality? Yes God had set out a theocracy, and yes it was to show he alone was God, and to judge the nations, to use the Hebrews as an example to the pagan nations, but they refused to honor him and he judge them for the same thing.
@bonnie43uk You have a skewed, headline-skimmer view of God in the OT vs NT. The amount of time between each of God's "smiting" episodes in the OT is typically at least many decades, often centuries. If you were around at the time, you would be shaking your fist at the sky and asking "God, what are you WAITING for?" Meanwhile, in the NT: a) Jesus speaks far more harshly and at far greater length than the rest of the Bible combined about final judgment and eternal punishment. b) God smites Ananias and Saphira dead where they stand in Acts 5. c) By far, as Cliffe often points out, the most violent, bloodiest, smitingest book in the Bible is in the NT. Can you guess which one? And there are many examples of God's mercy and tenderness in the OT -- read about Hosea and Gomer, Hagar and her son Ishmael, the saving of Lot and his family from Sodom in spite of themselves, giving the Canaanites 400 years to cut out their child sacrifice, temple prostitution, bestiality, etc. There is no divide-and-conquer possible with God in the Old and New Testaments.
Yes, the good and the bad ultimately came from God, but he didn't committed any of them. The other free agents he created did bad, but bad or evil doesn't have a creative mechanism in them so God logically didn't have to create them, what do I mean? When God made sex, it's for unity of a man and a woman so that they can become one flesh and create offsprings that will honor them and God. But people use the good gift of sex and corrupt it to a point of using it just for pleasure, or forcing someone to do it in grape. So yeah, evil cannot be created, it's just a corruption of good things that God created.
More like Human: God, make me what I wasn't born as. Please allow this uterus transplant to work even though I'm born a male" God: Stop playing God. Your example is misguided. And it's dishonest. Y'all don't even believe in God. Why do y'all care to bring up God when it comes to kids having terminal illnesses?.... Is it REALLY the bald little sick babies that are keeping y'all from God? Because I doubt it. I love my Protestant brothers, but unlike them I'm not afraid to say that God does what he does because he's God. And so what if he does? So what?? He's God. "yEa bUt heS nOt gOoD tO MEE tHen!!" Ok??.... And?.. Believe in him or don't. If you're right neither of us will know when we die. But if my Protestant brothers and I are right?...... But don't worry. It's not real anyway right?...
@@j_p_jr.487 it's up to US to stop that you cornball. It's embarrassing how much ppl who don't believe in God blame him for every bad thing that happens. Then try to use the evil that Humans create to tell believers "yOu sEe?! God dOesNt aCtuAllY caRe!!" Believers know why God does what he does, or doesn't do what he doesn't. Non believers are the ones that want to be spoon fed everything and blame what, and Who, they dont even believe in when things aren't a utopian picturesque existence.
Cliffe - Base your life on what you know is right. Also Cliffe - And what's right is to know god. Response - In other words: base your life on what I (Cliffe) tell you to base your life on. Lmfao . . . that was too funny.
@@VainFriggus No . . . I did listen to what he said in this video. I don't care what he said in any video other than what he said in this video. And what he said in this video was - • Base your life on what you know is right. • And what's right is to know god. But . . . I appreciate you taking the time to bring up how contradictive he is.
@@VainFriggus You - Then that's your problem, buddy. Response - If it's my problem then why are you here.? You came to me. Your problem is, you want me to focus on something you claim he said in another video, in order to disregard what he said in this video. What he said in this video is exactly what he said in this video and your excuses on his behalf (for not being consistent) won't change that.
I love waking up to smelling the coffee with cliff and Stewart. Keep sharing the gospel gentlemen❤
That's exactly what I did :) I woke up to this in my feed so I paused it to go make coffee and then sit outside and listen to it while the mountain, creek, and valley come alive.🌄🙏
From 11:00 forward. I really needed that, thank you for confirming that it’s okay to be a healthy skepticism. That it’s okay to ask questions, and maybe not take everything literally. God bless you.
Mind blowing how articulate, straight forward, knowledgeable they are. Such a God given gift, plus we can surely bet these two studied very hard & smart. The Holy Spirit definitely brings it back to remembrance.
I truly enjoy when they breakdown the manuscript variance. People outside of academia/scholarly study at least 10-15+ years ago read Bart Ehrmans take on the New Testament and the "errors" he found with the texts. It was a huge weight in some athiests pockets to pull out a variance issue or a difference in the text to drop on a christian who wasnt versed in the subject.
To basically say "discount the bible because of the errors/variations in the texts" is like saying throw out the library because of a gramatical difference between authors/scribes.
atheists aren't saying that as far as i know, it's more about stories in the Bible that do not comport with reality.
Guys, is there anyway you can go on the Joe Rogan podcast and evangelize? He claims that if you reach out to him he will bring you on the show. He talks about our God in a manner that is not accurate, or at least you have addressed his questions at some point. But you guys could actually bring truth to his gigantic following. Please consider!!!
Agreed!!! Joes close. He's came so far . I think they could plant the seed for God to grow 🙌🏽🗣 great idea
And how about John Macarthur, Ray comfort, Dorre Love, Cliff & Stuart Knechtle, Joe Rogan and Logan Paul; Dorre Love can step in when Joe and Logan start swearing, Ray Comfort to make them understand that Jesus is not just a nice guy, but is coming back for every unbelieving ass; Cliff and Stuart for showing them solid evidence, and John Macarthur to back it all up with deep understanding of scripture, timelines and the authority of the Gospels.
Be intentional pursue God daily.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18🙌🙏💕
"Rejoice always. Pray without ceasing. In all circumstances, give thanks, for this is the will of God for you in Christ Jesus."
Les goo West Virginia mentioned in a Cliffe vid🗣️🗣️
Blessed to have had these guys on campus. Truly awesome and amazing examples for how we should share the most important truth- Christ.
The young lady's question was such a good one - how can we decipher through our scattered thoughts to what really God is trying to tell us. I don't know if this is right or not, but I try to take my worry, humbly, to Christ in prayer and always remember the commandments, the pillars of common sense for life. To quiet the noise and open the inner ears to listen, it helps me to repeat the Lord's prayer.
Excellent! Praised be OLJC!
I love seeing you guys preaching prayer, adoration and confession! I can see the humility and true acts of contrition in this video, very well done Stuart, keep up the great stuff both of you, it’s a wonderful thing you’re doing. 😊
Cliff & Stewart, ya'll are amazing. Continue the advancement of the Kingdom of God!
just wanted to say am so glad i found cliff he opened my eyes about jesus thank you cliff god bless brother
Cliffe and Stuart rock!
Thank you Cliff and Stuart for such an outstanding ministry.
I declare that Jesus is my God and my Savior. Jesus bless all our journeys to salvation ✝️🙏💞✌
You guys are great.You are always good value to watch.God bless.
I thank cliffe so much he change my life
SINCE I WAS A KID , I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN GOD AND THROUGH THE YEARS HE SHOWED ME THAT HE'S TRULY THERE, WATCHING , PROTECTING, AND LOVE US , DON'T LET THE NON BELIEVERS TRICK US THT HE DOESN'T EXIST 😊
SOMETHING THT JESUS SAID MADE A LOT OF SENSE
God bless both Mr. Stuart and Mr. Cliffe Knechtle. Hope to teach others like you do 💛
Thank you Cliffe & Stuart. 💙🙏 another great video x
Uhm hello everyone in the comment section can I humbly ask for a prayer request over a person that I know I really can't give infos about this person but this person needs prayer and is struggling a lot in life I ask for a prayer 😢 may everything be at God's will God bless you guys.
Cliff said he KNOWS that God's character is good. How does he KNOW that? Is there a way to know that? 13:09 Very sincere question. I am struggling with my faith rn. @ 15:02 , Stuart says it too.
Goodness is the foundation of reality. Yet evil is present in reality too. How can I make the statement, "goodness is the foundation of reality;" When there's evil and suffering present too?
I can make the statement because good is superior to what's bad in every imaginable way. There are two concepts of Good which need to be defined before I can proceed. That which is intrinsically good, meaning the goodness is in and of itself, the goodness of something intrinsically good depends on nothing outside of itself to be good. God is intrinsically good, and all that's good is an outflow of his goodness i.e. God is the source of all that's good.
The second concept of good, is that's what's extrinsically good. Meaning its goodness is dependent upon something outside of itself in order to be good. All created things can only be extrinsically good.
All created things have a purpose and when something operates within its design parameters, it's considered to be extrinsically good. When it's operating outside of its design parameters it's considered bad.
I'm systematically laying out Biblical concepts for you to understand, so that you can make sense of reality from a Biblical perspective.
God is the only intrinsic good in existence. Everything that's created is created because God ordained it, and everything created has a purpose. We don't always know the purpose but usually we do. Everything that's operating within design parameters is extrinsically good. That's why when God finished and rested the seventh day, God said, "the creation is good."
Initially after creation all of reality was operating within design parameters. I've purposefully haven't entered created sentience beings yet, but I will.
When I made the statement, "good is superior to what's bad in every imaginable way." I'm going explain why I'm so confident, so as to make the claim. When something is bad it's always a corruption of that which is good. For example, everyone's heard of the concept of a bad apple. It's impossible to have all bad apples, meaning you can't determine what's a bad apple unless, you understand what constitutes a good apple.
This sounds simple and it is. For what's good is superior to what's bad in that what's bad has to be a corruption of what's good. For good can and does exist independent of what's bad.
Now I'll introduce the concept of evil. Rock, matter and energy can't be evil nor can a rock experience evil. Evil always involves conscious sentient beings. It's in the concept of evil, where most of the issues arise concerning suffering. All humans were designed by God to unique individuals i.e. everyone is one of a kind. We were also created with free will. Free will is a necessity because love is our design parameter.
We were created to be in fellowship with God and with our neighbors. Created as unique one of a kind free will being, we can do what we want, when we want. As long as our motivation is love. conscious being makes cognitive choices every day. What determines the choice one will make, is dependent upon one's strongest desire. For example, I like cookies, but I feel like I'm getting fat. One of those desires will be stronger than the other and I'll make a choice.
Love, when that's the strongest desire. Love will be motivating our choices and when we're loving, we're operating within our design parameters and we're free to do whatever we want to do.
Evil is the inverse of love and it's because of evil that there's suffering in this present age. God created everything to be good. Freewill beings departed from the royal law i.e. the law of love. God who's intrinsically good, pulled back his goodness partially. We currently live in a shadow world of what's to come. We experience both good, bad and evil in this world.
God is love and love never dominates another, that's why God partially pulls back his presence. We all experience what's good, what's bad and evil from others. If we're honest with ourselves i.e. abiding in the truth. We'll admit that we're perpetrators of evil ourselves. The very thing we say we hate, evil, this we do to our fellow human beings.
God started the creation in a state of goodness, and he promises to bring it again into a state of goodness. The question is, will we cooperate with him? Or instead determine to be selfish beast, that want it our way at the expense of others.
God didn't leave us here floundering in our own shit show. God personally entered into his creation and lived a life that we can't live, and he willingly suffered for our behalf. So that some would decide to choose the good and shun the evil. For God is all knowing, and he intuitively knows what evil is. Whereas we're finite beings and we learn by experience.
Hopefully friend, all the pain, suffering and evil that you experienced, coupled with all the good you're experienced in this life. Will drive you into God's arms, for God loves all his creatures. He created you with a purpose. The purpose being that you would experience him as fully as you can for eternity and that you would coexist with likeminded people and enjoy them too. The bonds that will unite all, is love.
I hope this explanation helps you.
In conclusion, we're currently existing in a shadow world. Some will experience an eternity with God and receive his goodness. while other will spend an eternity separated from his blessing. God forces no one, for he won't dominate his creatures, those in Christ will be drawn to God, while those outside of Christ, will flee from the Holy One. For the unrepentant will hate being in his presence and God will grant them their desire.
@@andrewwright9960 Your point is valid, but and there's always a but, lol. a proper interpretation of the data requires one having a proper perspective.
Perhaps why you think it's impossible for a human to have a relationship with God, that starts from a book as you said.
Is because you think the book is all there is. Many Christians have had subjective experiences with God. I think you're expecting that there needs to be an objective experience.
I can understand why you would think this would be necessary. But I think your narrowing your perspective. For you think based upon your experience that most things in reality need to be objectively observed.
Yet some of the most important things in life aren't objective, rather their subjective. For instance, a mother's love towards a child. That love that child feels is subjective and it's real.
I also understand your concern and your reasoning, "why doesn't God objectively present himself."
I can't answer this question. I can state what conclusion that I've come to, and I believe it's reasonable.
We are finite beings, meaning there's much we don't know. We learn through experience. The Bible teaches that God created everything in a state of goodness. And in order to remain in that state. Humanity will, will by necessity need to line up with God's will. What is God's will? God is love and he created each and every one of us uniquely, with diverging interest i.e. likes and dislikes. He also created us to be free i.e. free to choose what we desire to do.
Every conscious choice you make is ultimately determined by your strongest desire amongst multiple other desires.
For instance, you desire a donut, it will taste good. Yet you feel like you're getting fat, but you're hungry. Whichever is the strongest desire, will win out and you will make a decision.
God desires that human's strongest desire will be the desire to love. To love him and all the other people in our sphere of influence.
Where am I going on with this? Love is and always will be a choice. In order for love to be genuine it can't be cohered.
The God of the Bible is an omni\all being. meaning omni and all are prefixes. For instance, God is all powerful or omnipotent.
Love doesn't dominate another, perhaps friend your viewing the data with the wrong perspective, thinking that God should relate to humans as humans relate to each other.
The Bible teaches that God took upon himself humanity and he did indeed dwell amongst us. But the Bible is full of incidents where humans met God in his unmitigated form and humans didn't react well.
I think the reason why God doesn't show himself, is that he desires for his creatures to make the choice to fallow him freely. That's my perspective on the matter.
Isaiah 41:10
@@kurtwinslow2670 Thank you. Brings a lot of clarity. I will re-read it and comment again later.
Love you Cliffe!
Concerning the “Overthinking” question or discerning God, the flesh and the enemy, I recommend a book called ‘Christian in Complete Armour’ (abridged simplified version, three volumes) I recommend this book to all believers to learn how to live in the battle field of this world.
I would love to have a sit down conversation with Cliffe about his view on the "variations" in the original manuscripts. A variation does NOT mean error, they don't even have the same definition, so you CAN'T use the words synonymously. And he's got such a sad, incorrect and faithless view of the difference between the pagan, Alexandrian perverted manuscripts, and the actual preserved original texts that were quoted from by the church fathers, so we know that John 8:1-11 and Mark 16 were in the original manuscripts, because they were quoted from in the first century, before 100AD.
I love you guys❤ may the GOD of the universe blessed you❤
I think that the errors in these religious books serve as evidence that they were written by humans and thats not to say they are not true but thats to say us humans are not perfect.So what has worked for me is to overlook the errors and learn what message the bible is transmitting and how that message can help me in my pursuit of God
I am not convinced that if there were no errors in the bible we will be better Christians than we are,it all goes down to what truth are you looking for when reading the bible,if its God you are seeking then the human errors are out of the way,I mean you yourself can hardly write an essay without errors
There shouldn't be any errors at all. Thats why its highly recommended to read the bible thats close its authentic translation of Greek/Hebrew. I would recommend the NKJV if the KJV is too difficult to read. But yes I agree with you in all that even with human mistakes that it shouldn't be what takes us away from God for we aren't worshipping men but rather our Lord and Savior.
@@mmelimahlobo7656 Show me Bible Errors
Come to VCU PLEASE
i don't think there is any problems with the bible. There are problems with our understanding of it.
20:53 oh my.
I believe in God. But I always have this question. If all good things come from God, do all bad things come from God too? Clearly I need to talk to Cliff and Stewart.
That’s good question I also want to know about that
He answered it little bit with the reference of genesis
You can look upon that
Everything in this world supposed to from an obvious non existent god thing if this Cliffe Knechtle was anything to go by. Cliffe Knechtle said he was created by God thing and Stuart Knechtle his son said he was created by a god thing. Cliffe Knechtle helped created his son Stuart Knechtle by having sex with his wife and just like Cliffe Knechtle's father had sex with Cliffe Knechtle's mother.No point in sex if if there was such thing as a god thing.
Thank you for asking questions. I don't know the full answer but after watching a lot of videos I feel confident saying that evil comes from the free will of those who abuse the gifts that come from God. He is similarly responsible for the evil that man does unto themselves as a father is for the actions of his son. He can only guide so much before the free will of a man chooses what path he will go down. We are human, we get it wrong sometimes. But just because God created us, it doesn't mean that God created evil to act on us. @sudhakardubey6622 is right I think in that genesis talks about the origins of man and thus evil. I would watch more videos of cliff's to find out which ones and his thoughts as well. God bless you. :)
@@aj-wl6xi A non god thing didn't and hasn't created anything or anyone, if you want to find out how you were created go ask your parents or attend a sex education class.
To my understanding no, God will allow bad things to happen but most bad things happen because of free will, some people use that free will for great things like feeding the poor, and others steel. There are bad things that happen outside of human control and I’m not going to pretend I know why, but God often will use these things to achieve good, but he doesn’t necessarily cause it to happen.
Their father Emilio was one of the greatest preachers I ever heard. He made Jesus very real.
Hi cliff I'm 15yo I've done many sin I ignored the ten commandments except take others life but I've turn against evil, but my mind is swearing and pushing god away but my heart won't accept it but it sometime get there I don't want to blasphemy god really sad about that
I would love the opportunity to take Cliffe and or Stewart to dinner and be able to pick their brain! Great apologists both of them 👏
I take the Bible literally for what it says. And my faith has yet to be shook. There are no contradictions in the Bible, and the Bible certainly doesn't contradict "science", because the Bible isn't a scientific book. However, honest science does back up what the Bible teaches. History backs up what the Bible teaches. Geography backs up what the Bible teaches. Geology backs up what the Bible teaches. Archeology backs up what the Bible teaches. Sociology backs up what the Bible teaches. Psychology backs up what the Bible teaches. Astrology backs up what the Bible teaches. Theology backs up what the Bible teaches. Philosophy backs up what the Bible teaches.
Genesis 39:9b,
Matthew 4:23-24,
Matthew 6:9-15 & 12:31-32,
Matthew 17:1-5,
Matthew 25:31-46,
Mark 14:62,
Luke 18:18-27,
John 14:6-7,
Romans 12:21, Romans13:1-5
Titus 1:2,
Titus 1:4,
Revelation 20:10-15,
Everything that's good originates from God!
Indeed
I’d like to know why you have crosses in your church, why you do services on Sundays, and if you keep the Passover
The Cross
•Matthew 4:10
•Psalm 135:15-18
•Leviticus 19:4
The Sabbath (Saturday/7th day)
•Exodus 20:8-11
•Genesis 2:2-3
•Luke 4:16-21
The Passover
•Matthew 26:17-19
•Numbers 9:2-14
A question what the scripture says about using musical instrument in the churches
A skeptic is a person who doesn't believe something is true unless they see evidence. As a skeptic, you refuse to believe your sister saw a ghost - after all, she can't prove it. Skeptics are doubters - they need to see proof before they will believe. Good evidence and proof
I gotta ask then , what’s the most accurate Bible to read ? I heard the textus receptus is most accurate , but maybe there a more accurate ones. What would they be ?
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I can't remember where I have heard it but it was about that, if we are going to heaven we won't remember our relatives, friends etc who didn't made it to heaven
Is this somewhere writtn in the bible?
I don’t think so
Just because you have a new body etc doesn't mean you'll not know who is there. One of the biggest things to realize is God is gracious and merciful why would he make it to where you don't know anyone in heaven. Not so you will know your family and others. Because God loves relationship which is one of our biggest things we enjoy on earth
I have a question about God, if our complex design is one of the main beliefs, then why doesn't the abilities of God make us think there's a God that made God? God has the ability to think, the mind is a very complex thing, he has the ability to create, another very complex thing. He couldn't have made his own mind or abilities. They themself are the most complex thing to exist if he does, what made him so complex?
God is eternal.nothing made God he was always there. He's the non caused cause. Meaning he never had a beginning. Which means he has no end. If God wanted to he could go against freewill and force us to believe in him. But forced love is not love and not freewill. So God lays the choice in front of us. To either look at the evidence or push it away because our bar of evidence is set so high
@@OneTrueLogic if he existed forever why did he all of a sudden create everything. If it's been forever. He could've done it trillions and trillions of years ago then right?
@@GoodTerror21401 we don't know why he did it when he did but it was perfect timing for me. Yes he could make creation anytime. Whether he did it then or 15,000 years ago doesn't show he's not real. If he's God he can do what he wants. In the Bible Jesus performed miracles right in front of crowds. But some believed and it says some didn't. Even if he showed up today people would still doubt. It depends on how open you are to God. If you're completely closed off then there's no way for God to exist
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God doesn't change, people do.
@@Theo_Skeptomai obviously... That's the point of believing in something ... ... Or someone.
@@Theo_Skeptomai you're assuming I'm hoping to convert you. I have better things to do that argue with ppl on the internet
@@Theo_Skeptomai you claimed I incurred a debt of evidence. Which you be true if, and only if, I were attempting to convince someone of what I had said. Being that I am not attempting to do so I have incurred no such debt. But you are correct I shouldn't have presupposed an assumption on your part
i know people who are always negative about life, things, it will eat you up & you just might close the door to that jail yourself without a key
There are no errors in the Bible. Variants are NOT errors
Yeah, I'm first🎉
Is the root of ignorance, has to do with pride,
And is this pride realistically a foundation in man,
As with my schizophrenia I am generally sceptical about that I have it. Which is common among us.
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Can Someone help me? I have a lot of questions and doubts on the existence of God. I am not very knowledgeable on theology but i was talking to an atheist who made me believe that there wasnt a God. Can someone please help me who is knowledgeable on this.
Isnt it possible that the Universe is eternal, and energy has been around forever?
I haveway more questions but can someone answer this first
@@Theo_Skeptomai what makes it so probable?
@@Theo_Skeptomai The first law stated that way is a philosophical statement meaning its not necessarily true. The 1st law is that the total amount of usable energy in a closed system is constant. So, as time goes on the amount of usable energy decreases and the amount of unusable energy increases. One day we are all gonna go into heat death and i think everyone has realized that. The Universe had to have a beginning because if we are in a closed system there is only so much energy in there, if the universe was eternal we would have ran out of energy a long time ago. Like if you had been driving your car for all of eternity then you wouldn’t have any gas right now. Same thing is true with the universe. So basically I have come to the conclusion after a little bit of research that the 1st and 2nd Laws of Thermodynamics show that the universe cant be eternal. So it had to have a beginning and a creator. I am by no means an expert on this.
Another question I have that completely hurts my brain is that if the universe is eternal/has an infinite timeline, How would we have gotten to this point in time? Because If there were an infinite number of days before today, this day would have never happened.
@@Theo_Skeptomai ad hominem no use talking to you now. Was looking for answers I was not looking to be called a simpleton
@@Theo_Skeptomai Act your age
@@Theo_Skeptomai Is it more reasonable to believe that in the beginning matter and energy, or is it more reasonable to believe in the beginning God? I think its more reasonable to believe in a God, because my experience in life is that life does not come from non life.
How did you come up with 23,000 manuscripts or pieces. I thought it is closer to 5,500?
He said 200-400 thousand manuscript variants, meaning changes. Not saying there were that many different pieces of manuscripts. (Edit Sorry, nvm it was later in the video lol)
I think he misspoke when he said Greek manuscripts. The 25,000 he made mention of, if I'm not mistaken, is from all manuscripts around that time. The 5,800 are the Greek manuscripts, you are correct.
@@RightWriteRite regardless of whether its 5k or 20k, mass production of a story does not make it true in any way shape or form.
@@bonnie43ukIt's not a story, it's historical narrative.
@@surrendertoJC How can you prove ANY of the supernatural miracles in the bible?, they are clearly stories.
The Bible does not say that God doesn’t change his mind. It says that God does not change. He can change his mind. He allows Moses to bargain with him to spare the city of Sodom and Gamorra. if he could find such an such amount of righteous people in the city. Of course, he did not find such and such amount of righteous people in the city. The Bible also does not claim that God is all love. It Says God is love. It also Says God is just so that means he must punish Sin.
From the very beginning God had already decided to destroy the cities, no matter what. This shows us that we must accept God's judgement even when his decisions are not our desired choices, because in truth, Abrams didn't want to see the people in the cities perish. He had compassion for the wicked and did not want to see their destruction ultimately committed by their sins and wickedness. So if we take a different approach , rather than seeing it as a "bargain" it was actually more so, of a request. He requested that those cities be spared, and that request was denied. God, will sometimes say no to our requests. However, we can consider how he did answer Abrams request but in a different way. His family was spared (Lot and his daughters). Although Abrahams mediatory works didn't spare the cities, it did bring about the salvation of Abrams nephew Lot.
Hope this clears some stuff a bit :)
@@j_p_jr.487 Yes, and he ends up being humiliating punished.
The one I always think of in regard to changing his mind is Hezekiah. Through Isaiah God told him he was going to die, afterward he prayed and asked God to remember his loyalty toward him and before Isaiah even finished leaving the palace God told him to go back and tell Hezekiah he would be granted 15 more years of life.
@pcdeltalink036 We can see it as a test for Hezekiah. He knew nothing could be done, and so he wept and prayed, asking God to spare his life. God knew that he would pray, but Hezekiah didn't. The test was to see how he would respond to the dire circumstance. If he had not done anything and just accepted his unfortunate life then he would have died. But because of his prayer, God intervened and aaved him. Here, it shows how Hezekiah changed his mind about God after seeing how gracious God was in extending his life 15 more years.
So all the hell I live is from above too
I’d disagree. Go to Genesis 1 and you’ll see how everything was meant to be. Then, go to Genesis 3 and see how humans messed everything up
Water baptism in what name?
If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him (1 Corinthians 3:17):
Let every man be careful of how he lays his foundation. The only foundation we are to lay is that of Jesus Christ (1 Cor 3:11). The foundations of gold, silver, and precious stones are of *_good intentions_* that glorifies the Father; it is by this that we are saved. However, the foundations of wood, hay, and stubble are of the world; these will be burned up and the man shall suffer loss, but he will be saved by the foundations of gold, silver, and precious stones that glorify the Father (1 Cor 3:12-15).
Our bodies are God’s temple. If any man builds wickedness and evilness deliberately, God will destroy him (Hebrews 10:26). As we grow in God’s righteousness, we receive the mind of Christ, who has the mind of God. As we grow, we get rid of the wood, hay, and stubble and we walk in the power and spirit of God through Jesus. The temple of God is holy-which temple are you? (1 Cor 3:17)
Romans 8:38 ye of little faith in the assurance of our faith in Christ
Nothing can take us out of His hand apart from full on apostasy. The truth is we are sealed in the Holy Spirit as a guarantee of our faith
I do not wish to argue with anyone but I’m curious as to why the Bible states Adam and Eve are created by god and essentially are the predecessors to the human race but that entails it having anyone else for their children to procreate with meaning that the point in time we live in the human race would be horribly inbred and deformed . 2. What was gods purpose for creating the universe/life? And if the argument is that god had to have created everything because something can’t come from nothing but how did god do it? How did god come to be by following that same logic without a brain or nervous system, consciousness can’t exit and can’t be created if it doesn’t exist in the first place. I an avid atheist don’t think that you should stop believing but I do believe religion to be a great way to find solice and purpose in life and that’s great but I personally believe it’s a silly say to guide your beliefs and ideals. Any thoughts from other atheists and religious people alike are welcome. 😁
As to that how God came from nothing. We know that universe and everything had the beginning millions years ago. That means that it had to come from something. God does not have beginning. God is outside of space and time. If something is eternal it does not have beginning and we know God is eternal but we also know universe is not eternal. We know when it was born. That's why God does not have a greator but space does. Does that make sense, I tried to explain the best I could.
@@ellaalisaqok, my only other question is why? Why create life why create the universe why put people in heaven to start? If everyone was happy and healthy and had everything they want they wouldn’t sin or do bad things worthy of going to hell, but if they did then send them to hell. And( random thought) why hasn’t god eradicated satan, satan isn’t on gods level because he’s an angel (a fallen one ) but regardless. God hell shouldn’t be used for the place the bad people go forever it should be a correctional place that teaches sinners the ways of living by the rules of life and heal their minds and bring back to heaven. Idk tho
@@mutemenought3292 Okay so for the first question why create life? The same way why parents create children. It is out of love.
As why not we all are in heaven where everything is good and if you still sin you go to hell. First demons who were once angles lived in heaven but they still chose to go against God and God did cast them out. They all will get the same end. Wich is they will be burned in hell in the end. Second we don't live in unfair world because God greated us to live here and not in heaven. God greated Adam and Eve who lived in paradise. There was no sin or unfairness. They chose to go against God's will and now we live in unfair world. But we will go to heaven in the end if we accept that Jesus died on cross for our sins.
@@mutemenought3292 as to why God does not eradicate satan. I don't know. All I know he will do it but not yet. But I know God's character is all knowing and loving and whatever reason it is I trust him. He is giving us time to repent and ask for forgivness.
As for the hell. It is your choice if you wan't to follow God or not. If you choose to live seperate from God when you are living you will also live seperate from God forever (hell) . It is called hell because living without God and light forever is toture itself.
Somepeople even call it the dead of the soul since God gives you life and if you seperate from God it will be taken away too and it will be very painful since your soul would be burned in fire. That's why you would be forever in hell, eternaly gone from life and God.
But it is not said clearly what hell is so idk
Also, the bible doesn't make it clear whether Adam and Eve were the only humans created by God. It just says they were the first. It's likely that God created Adam and Eve first and then many more people that could procreate together.I am also willing to bet that you base your beliefs and morals off of religious values, whether you want to believe it or not.
Sometimes I wonder if Cliffe doesn’t understand that we are living in a fallen world. Especially when he speaks about tragedy and wondering if it’s Gods fault.
Can someone answer my question, I belive in Jesus Christ but why God is all knowing and he was disappointed by what peaople had begun and he killed them by flood , so is he all knowing?
Yes. He knows all things. He shows His judgement and hatred of sin throughout the Bible. Ultimately the judgement of hell shows His holiness and perfection whilst salvation and heaven demonstrates His perfect love (Romans 5.8).
Did Saul lose his salvation?
Jesus himself verified the OT books are the Word of God and complete, which Ezra had compiled at that time and Jesus used (the same we use today). The book of Enoch was not included nor were the other non-Biblical scrolls. Jesus then commissioned his apostles to write the gospels and NT. The Bible is complete and as his favorite disciple, John (“who Jesus loved most of all”) wrote in the last verse of the the Bible: “If anyone adds to the words in this book, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.”
So yes, the Bible that we have today is complete. OT verified by Jesus himself and NT written by his commissioned apostles who personally knew Him or knew someone who closely knew Him.
Im atheist can I ask something?
Yess, ask.
@@snksand are you christian?
Hello@@snksand
What do you mean "from above? You mean all good and perfect gifts come from the clouds?
From above meaning God.
@@j_p_jr.487So, sorry but I am not understanding what you mean.
@@j_p_jr.487 then how will I know what you ment?
Water baptism in the Jesus name only or in the Trinity?
Which bible verse had the word trinity,,i would like to know coz what i know is that,it came from vatican not in the bible,,,
Matthew 28:19
@@martinmwangi2215nope! The word “trinity” isn’t used obviously but there are many passages in the old and New Testament confirming the trinity
Jesus is who cleanses your soul so it’s in Jesus’ name
The words are not magic. God won't remove His grace for following Him in obedience just bc for example the pastor didn't use a certain phrase
JOHN 8 : 32
'AND THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE'
JESUS 'ISA' 'YESHUA' 'MESSIAH' IS THE LIVING GOD.☝️🙏😇
THE BIBLE IS THE BOOK OF ETERNAL LIFE.☝️🙏😇
Why are demons afraid of name "jesus"and not name "yeshua" please explain
It doesn’t matter what translation it’s his name there afraid of
@@victorbarahona4173 do that mean demons know all languge?
Human skepticism comes from sin...doubt ect.
How can this make sense in anyway possible
Hmmmm.... no. Human ignorance comes from sin. Since sin separates us from ultimate Truth (God Himself), it's possible for us to be ignorant, or be mistaken, or to lie...
But skepticism and doubt.... that comes from Jesus. Jesus commands us to be skeptical in Matthew 7:15-20.
Because we as humans don't know everything, it is very important for us to question and seek answers to our doubts.
Why I said that becz scepticism is the reason why we know certain things
In many religious contexts, skepticism itself is not considered a sin. In fact, questioning and critical thinking can be encouraged as part of seeking truth and understanding. However, if skepticism leads to a refusal to accept evidence or alternative viewpoints in a dogmatic or closed-minded manner, it could potentially lead to sinful behaviors such as arrogance, prejudice, or dishonesty. So, it's not skepticism per se that is considered sinful, but rather how it is practiced and the attitudes it fosters.
In many religious contexts, skepticism itself is not considered a sin. In fact, questioning and critical thinking can be encouraged as part of seeking truth and understanding. However, if skepticism leads to a refusal to accept evidence or alternative viewpoints in a dogmatic or closed-minded manner, it could potentially lead to sinful behaviors such as arrogance, prejudice, or dishonesty. So, it's not skepticism per se that is considered sinful, but rather how it is practiced and the attitudes it fosters.
And every bad thing is god working in mysterious ways or he isn't involved at all, kooooool.
anyone who tells you serving CHRIST is easy is selling something not worth buying or trading for!
Yeah all that's cool but how about the Book of 1 Enoch.
Wrong Bible
@@DaybyDay_100 yet the book of Jude quotes it.
@@katiesalomon even if that is true. Just because there are certain parts of the apocrypha that are repeated in the Bible or vice versa does not validate the books entirety, that simply does not make any sense. The book of Enoch was added during the council of Trent, in the year 1550, 1400 years after the biblical cannon was already established by the early church. It is a contortion and a very sad thing.
@DaybyDay_100 if you study it, it will make sense to you.
Why is homosexuality bad when it doesn't go against the 10 commandments?
thats a fair question, logically, it isn't bad.
Stuart is being a bit economical with the truth when he says in debates with atheists they insist that in order for them to believe in God, God has to show up in front of them to reveal himself. I've watched plenty of debates between atheists and Cliffe and Stuart, atheists have never insisted such a thing to the best of my recollection, I'll be happy to be corrected on that. Atheist debaters tend to point out all the flaws that come with the Bible as they see it, rather than insist God show up in front of them, or they wont believe. As an atheist, it certainly wouldn't take much for me to change my mind 🙂
Hello Bonnie! The Bible is not the only evidence for God, rather it is who God is.
@@dentonhahn2907 Hey denton, hows it going?, hmm, if you're saying the bible tells us who God is, then he does not come across as a good character in lots of passages, more of a war God who smites his enemies. The Old Testament God bears little resemblance to the character of Jesus in the New Testament, yet Christians tell us they are one and the same being.
@@bonnie43ukty for sharing, I am a believer that enjoys challenging himself with hard questions. We exist in this world and we are under God's divine law. In the Old Testament sin was tend to be punished faster because grace was not revealed in christ yet. Once christ came grace was established and grace is a legal term. If you read revelations you can see that the same justice required for sin to be dealt with is happening in revelation. But grace is a period on the which sin is not judged and a way of an acquittal of sorts in Christ to avoid the punishment of sin and also to imbue you with the holy spirit which in itself is a seal like that of a king a surety of sorts until you get redeemed and passed unto a better body and a better life where sin won't battle within you. Make sense?
@bonnie43uk yes that is what I am saying. On what basis do you determine morality? Yes God had set out a theocracy, and yes it was to show he alone was God, and to judge the nations, to use the Hebrews as an example to the pagan nations, but they refused to honor him and he judge them for the same thing.
@bonnie43uk
You have a skewed, headline-skimmer view of God in the OT vs NT. The amount of time between each of God's "smiting" episodes in the OT is typically at least many decades, often centuries. If you were around at the time, you would be shaking your fist at the sky and asking "God, what are you WAITING for?"
Meanwhile, in the NT:
a) Jesus speaks far more harshly and at far greater length than the rest of the Bible combined about final judgment and eternal punishment.
b) God smites Ananias and Saphira dead where they stand in Acts 5.
c) By far, as Cliffe often points out, the most violent, bloodiest, smitingest book in the Bible is in the NT. Can you guess which one?
And there are many examples of God's mercy and tenderness in the OT -- read about Hosea and Gomer, Hagar and her son Ishmael, the saving of Lot and his family from Sodom in spite of themselves, giving the Canaanites 400 years to cut out their child sacrifice, temple prostitution, bestiality, etc.
There is no divide-and-conquer possible with God in the Old and New Testaments.
Yes, the good and the bad ultimately came from God, but he didn't committed any of them. The other free agents he created did bad, but bad or evil doesn't have a creative mechanism in them so God logically didn't have to create them, what do I mean?
When God made sex, it's for unity of a man and a woman so that they can become one flesh and create offsprings that will honor them and God. But people use the good gift of sex and corrupt it to a point of using it just for pleasure, or forcing someone to do it in grape. So yeah, evil cannot be created, it's just a corruption of good things that God created.
human: god, heal my baby from leukemia
god: stop playing god
More like Human: God, make me what I wasn't born as. Please allow this uterus transplant to work even though I'm born a male"
God: Stop playing God.
Your example is misguided. And it's dishonest.
Y'all don't even believe in God. Why do y'all care to bring up God when it comes to kids having terminal illnesses?....
Is it REALLY the bald little sick babies that are keeping y'all from God? Because I doubt it.
I love my Protestant brothers, but unlike them I'm not afraid to say that God does what he does because he's God.
And so what if he does?
So what??
He's God.
"yEa bUt heS nOt gOoD tO MEE tHen!!"
Ok??.... And?..
Believe in him or don't.
If you're right neither of us will know when we die.
But if my Protestant brothers and I are right?......
But don't worry. It's not real anyway right?...
@@j_p_jr.487 it's up to US to stop that you cornball. It's embarrassing how much ppl who don't believe in God blame him for every bad thing that happens. Then try to use the evil that Humans create to tell believers "yOu sEe?! God dOesNt aCtuAllY caRe!!"
Believers know why God does what he does, or doesn't do what he doesn't. Non believers are the ones that want to be spoon fed everything and blame what, and Who, they dont even believe in when things aren't a utopian picturesque existence.
I like Cliff but I really don't like hearing his son
Haha i think we just like cliff’s voice. Same message i just like the tone in cliff’s voice. Both good guys.
Stuart your basically Catholic.come home
Bring the big guy and the rest of the fam .It's your calling
Not up too you. Ask jesus
Cliffe -
Base your life on what you know is right.
Also Cliffe -
And what's right is to know god.
Response -
In other words: base your life on what I (Cliffe) tell you to base your life on.
Lmfao . . . that was too funny.
Nope! You didn’t listen at all :p cliffe says over and over again, don’t take his word for it. Go and read the source documents yourself
@@VainFriggus
No . . . I did listen to what he said in this video.
I don't care what he said in any video other than what he said in this video.
And what he said in this video was -
• Base your life on what you know is right.
• And what's right is to know god.
But . . . I appreciate you taking the time to bring up how contradictive he is.
@@jackalsgate1146”I only care what he said in this video” then that’s your problem buddy 😂
@@VainFriggus
You -
Then that's your problem, buddy.
Response -
If it's my problem then why are you here.?
You came to me.
Your problem is, you want me to focus on something you claim he said in another video, in order to disregard what he said in this video.
What he said in this video is exactly what he said in this video and your excuses on his behalf (for not being consistent) won't change that.
@@jackalsgate1146uh no, you are just cherry picking what parts you want to listen to. Read the source documents yourself, with all the context
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