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I am from Kenya. I agree with you strongly. Bride price is a good, rich culture when modesty is observed, but when there is exploitation and huge amounts involved often making the young couple start with difficulty marriage, then it is counter productive.
Africans in the diaspora need to understand the true meaning and root of the African bride price requirement during a traditional marriage to defend themselves better, should the situation turn out unfavourable.
Young Africans are starting to have good sense. Thank you for this video. The algorithm brought your work to my attention and it's quite impressive. I hope you can continue the Lingala lessons. Time to enjoy some Ferre Gola!
it sounds more like a business this day, some parents are raising their daughters like livestock that will pay off someday. but it's a good tradition mais makambo batu mingi bazosala mikolo oyo, ezobangisa biso ba single, yango wana totikali kobala bamindele po choix eza te heure mususu.
I found this post very helpful. I am an American with an Angolan girlfriend who just stunned me with a Bride Price request. We plan to marry and live in the US where the divorce laws are already brutal so BP could make things excessively burdensome. Also, BP is traditional in a world of increasingly non-traditional women. The entire process sounds like a scam.
I agree with you, especially about the involvement of extended family. They tend to make it more about them which in turn causes conflict. I love your content by the way. Keep up the good work 🌸
Some American couples like to give a bride price to represent the price the Savior paid for His "bride," (the people that love Him.). The Bible's laws talk about a bride price but the exchange is meant to demonstrate commitment on the husband's part, like giving an engagement ring in Western culture. Some fathers in the Bible stories also tried to use the bride price to get rich so I guess that's another proof that people don't change.
My only issue with all of this is: it seems not to matter where the man came from and how expensive it took to raise him as well. Moreover, its not like the man will entirely stop being there for the wife's family once dowry is paid. Unless if thats what supposed to happen? Sounds like dowry is a transaction to cut ties. Personally I think dowry must be an exchange of gifts of equivalent value between both families. Period.
I came from Kenganda/Oshay Duke Jackson's channel after seeing your comment over there about the hwite colonizer who tried to take advantage of Congolese women. Big up yuhself Empress. ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 - From a Jamaican Yardman🇯🇲
I believe what majority of young people who are beginning to be against the bridal price etc...fail to understand is that the responsibility of marriage and paying the money falls on the whole family, not the husband alone, (but too many hero's going around) secondly, bridal price has been a culture that's been around for hundred years not only Africans practice it but many other cultures practice it in different form, it's more of an appreciation towards the lady family than anything. I agree with the other point of excessive amount of money being asked nowadays, but on the note of being a fixed price totally against that, and on the note the money should be given back to the couples kills the whole purpose of it all together. Ps. Recently got married.
Congratulations on your wedding! 🎉 I think one of the problems is really the fact that the ritual represents different things to different cultures (even within the same country) but we rarely ever know what is expected of us until we decide to get married. If its essence is really to show gratitude, then it would make sense not to ask for it like most families do. But I don’t know much ‘cause I’m not there yet I guess 😭
Mbote I watched your video and I like it. I believe that the Bride Price need to be regulated practically. 1st it needs to be understood at a deeper level. I read this about Bantu-Kongo marriage (longo) from the book AFRICAN COSMOLOGY OF THE BANTU KONGO Principals of Life & Living by KIMBWANDENDE K. B. FU- KIAU, PH.D. page 39 & 40. The marriage,in other words,for the Bantu-Kongo, is a physically living symbol of alliance (s) between,at least,two communities. Therefore,divorce is not an issue of individuals,but of communities involved in the marriage. As I understand it marriage (longo) is not a only a marriage of two individuals but also a marriage (longo) of at least two different communities. So yes it going to cost a lot of money to get marriage. That is my understanding feel free to correct me on the part that I might have gotten wrong. I like your videos.Melesi. Nzambi a pambola yo.
Sister. First,I really enjoy your teachings. I am from America, I don’t know enough about my African heritage. I do know that my DNA lineage shows a larger make up of Kongo and Bantu, and I watch channels like yours and others to learn. Concerning the bride price. I know that the bride price is a biblical principle, and I would like for us African Americans to consider this practice as well. In the Bible jewelry was often given to the prospective bride. Genesis 24;53. Would you be able to elaborate on how this process evolved from giving the dowry to the bride from now giving it to the brides family? Thank you for teachings.
Hi dear! Welcome to the family, I’m glad you learn a thing or two here. I’m not quite sure if the practice (the way it is practiced in Africa) is based on the bible because everybody does it regardless of religion and it sometimes represents different things to different cultures on the continent. Some cultures are traditionally supposed to give it back to the bride but not many of them do it seems.
Nobody should be bought and money shouldnt be an hindrance to marrying who you love. If i pay for a shirt i own the shirt, if i pay for a woman then it the start of ego and enslavement. Given something should be voluntary
Eyy I was thinking no video in a long time, turns out u have been watching but no subscribe.🤷♂️🤷♂️ No wonder TH-cam wasn't sending me notifications 🤣🤣. The bride price topic is interesting
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I am from Kenya. I agree with you strongly. Bride price is a good, rich culture when modesty is observed, but when there is exploitation and huge amounts involved often making the young couple start with difficulty marriage, then it is counter productive.
Africans in the diaspora need to understand the true meaning and root of the African bride price requirement during a traditional marriage to defend themselves better, should the situation turn out unfavourable.
I STRONGLY support. Most of us don't even really know what the practice represents. So we say yes to everything.
As one in the diaspora, I agree as well.
Young Africans are starting to have good sense. Thank you for this video. The algorithm brought your work to my attention and it's quite impressive. I hope you can continue the Lingala lessons. Time to enjoy some Ferre Gola!
You hited at the exact point of bride-price correctly. I salute you...
it sounds more like a business this day, some parents are raising their daughters like livestock that will pay off someday. but it's a good tradition mais makambo batu mingi bazosala mikolo oyo, ezobangisa biso ba single, yango wana totikali kobala bamindele po choix eza te heure mususu.
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I found this post very helpful. I am an American with an Angolan girlfriend who just stunned me with a Bride Price request. We plan to marry and live in the US where the divorce laws are already brutal so BP could make things excessively burdensome. Also, BP is traditional in a world of increasingly non-traditional women. The entire process sounds like a scam.
@@swagyall9568 advise yourself bro
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I agree with you, especially about the involvement of extended family. They tend to make it more about them which in turn causes conflict.
I love your content by the way. Keep up the good work 🌸
Yes! So much extended family involvement! Glad you enjoy the videos 🤩
Yes. I agree. Both sides parents should give away the love. To help couple get off to good start.
Indeed!
Countries that don't have bride price would never even consider introducing it. This is a pretty good indication of its inherent value.
Some American couples like to give a bride price to represent the price the Savior paid for His "bride," (the people that love Him.). The Bible's laws talk about a bride price but the exchange is meant to demonstrate commitment on the husband's part, like giving an engagement ring in Western culture. Some fathers in the Bible stories also tried to use the bride price to get rich so I guess that's another proof that people don't change.
Preesh. The bride price should be given to the couples!!!
Yes, that would be ideal!
My only issue with all of this is: it seems not to matter where the man came from and how expensive it took to raise him as well. Moreover, its not like the man will entirely stop being there for the wife's family once dowry is paid. Unless if thats what supposed to happen? Sounds like dowry is a transaction to cut ties. Personally I think dowry must be an exchange of gifts of equivalent value between both families. Period.
I came from Kenganda/Oshay Duke Jackson's channel after seeing your comment over there about the hwite colonizer who tried to take advantage of Congolese women. Big up yuhself Empress. ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
- From a Jamaican Yardman🇯🇲
I believe what majority of young people who are beginning to be against the bridal price etc...fail to understand is that the responsibility of marriage and paying the money falls on the whole family, not the husband alone, (but too many hero's going around) secondly, bridal price has been a culture that's been around for hundred years not only Africans practice it but many other cultures practice it in different form, it's more of an appreciation towards the lady family than anything.
I agree with the other point of excessive amount of money being asked nowadays, but on the note of being a fixed price totally against that, and on the note the money should be given back to the couples kills the whole purpose of it all together.
Ps. Recently got married.
Congratulations on your wedding! 🎉
I think one of the problems is really the fact that the ritual represents different things to different cultures (even within the same country) but we rarely ever know what is expected of us until we decide to get married. If its essence is really to show gratitude, then it would make sense not to ask for it like most families do. But I don’t know much ‘cause I’m not there yet I guess 😭
Mbote I watched your video and I like it. I believe that the Bride Price need to be regulated practically. 1st it needs to be understood at a deeper level. I read this about Bantu-Kongo marriage (longo) from the book AFRICAN COSMOLOGY OF THE BANTU KONGO Principals of Life & Living by KIMBWANDENDE K. B. FU- KIAU, PH.D. page 39 & 40. The marriage,in other words,for the Bantu-Kongo, is a physically living symbol of alliance (s) between,at least,two communities. Therefore,divorce is not an issue of individuals,but of communities involved in the marriage. As I understand it marriage (longo) is not a only a marriage of two individuals but also a marriage (longo) of at least two different communities. So yes it going to cost a lot of money to get marriage. That is my understanding feel free to correct me on the part that I might have gotten wrong. I like your videos.Melesi. Nzambi a pambola yo.
Sister. First,I really enjoy your teachings. I am from America, I don’t know enough about my African heritage.
I do know that my DNA lineage shows a larger make up of Kongo and Bantu, and I watch channels like yours and others to learn.
Concerning the bride price. I know that the bride price is a biblical principle, and I would like for us African Americans to consider this practice as well.
In the Bible jewelry was often given to the prospective bride. Genesis 24;53.
Would you be able to elaborate on how this process evolved from giving the dowry to the bride from now giving it to the brides family? Thank you for teachings.
Hi dear!
Welcome to the family, I’m glad you learn a thing or two here.
I’m not quite sure if the practice (the way it is practiced in Africa) is based on the bible because everybody does it regardless of religion and it sometimes represents different things to different cultures on the continent. Some cultures are traditionally supposed to give it back to the bride but not many of them do it seems.
i AGREE 10000000000000 percent. let's even abolish it sef. lols
That what I said! Ahhh well on sis😂🥰♥️
Nobody should be bought and money shouldnt be an hindrance to marrying who you love. If i pay for a shirt i own the shirt, if i pay for a woman then it the start of ego and enslavement. Given something should be voluntary
Félicité, mwana mwasi suka beauté, na mipesi nyoso se na yo
The diary is crazy
Eyy I was thinking no video in a long time, turns out u have been watching but no subscribe.🤷♂️🤷♂️ No wonder TH-cam wasn't sending me notifications 🤣🤣. The bride price topic is interesting
No wonder!!! 🤣🤣🤣Well I'm glad you're here at last! 💙Indeed, I think that this is an interesting topic.
Congolese politicians need heavenly help. 500$, Can you imagine??? SMH! Nice content by the way, keep it up. #newsubbie
Funny people. Welcome to the family :)
I got a question for you why houses are so expensive in Kinshasa
I think it’s partly because there’s a lot of people there.
@@CongoTalks243 how come I thought we have the biggest land with everything on it plus the youngest population
@@mustaphanzebamukuna6428 Easier access to things I guess.
@@CongoTalks243 Hey sister keep it up we like your videos💪
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Anythig worth having in life come after a long time of trial and error
Hmmm I hear you 🙌🏾
@@CongoTalks243 Princess... take it from me. princess.. every person we date help us to get better so when the right one does come along we will have more chances getting married
yo fetu ku vanda diaka ve, mbote betu katula yo. nsoni ya mpila yayi dibala yango ke nki na miyibi ya mpidiayi
You are buying a wife and nothing is wrong with that
They're not buying a wife. How insulting
Thank God for Latinas... no such foolish ways...