In about 1989, my wife won a 1969 Grabber Green Boss 302. At that time, Chief Auto Parts (if my memory of the name is correct) sponsored the NHRA national race at the Texas Motorplex near Ennis Texas and was giving away the Boss and a Chevrolet ??? to promote the race. They had discount tickets (or coupons) to the race at their stores. My wife went to their store in Cleburne Texas and bought some tickets. Unknown to her, she was entered in the contest to win one of the cars. A few weeks after the race, she got a call telling her she had won and asking here to return to the store to be presented with the car. She thought it was a joke but went anyway and was given the car. The car would hardly run and we took it to the Ford dealer in Cleburne and the mechanics there knew little to nothing about Boss's and couldn't fix it. They also thought it might be a fake. After some research we found out it was a valuable car ( I didn't know what is was at first) and we found a Mustang restorer in Benbrook Texas who verified it was authentic and fixed it. Earlier he had been at the race in Ennis and had hoped he would win the car. We drove it some on the back roads. I remember it being pretty fast but it road walked a lot. We lived in the country at the time and didn't have a garage for it. Although the car was parked over a hundred yards from the highway, a lot of people stopped by and wanted to buy it. I think some of them thought we didn't know the value of the car and were hoping to get it for a song. We eventually sold it to someone from Alvarado Texas for $17,500 in about 1990 or 1991. We thought about keeping it but didn't have a garage and were also concerned that we could blow up the engine on our back road drives. Also we didn't have a lot of money.
I HAVE DREAMED AND LUSTED OVER THIS CAR IN THIS SPEC ALL MY LIFE. I GOT A MODEL OF A YELLOW BOSS 302 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID AND NOW MY DAUGHTER HAS IT NOW.
An exact, exact Boss 302....same color, year, etc and I, with my RoadRunner, in 1972 raced most of the way on old Highway 16 in southern Minnesota and out onto interstate 90, sometimes me ahead, sometimes him ahead....until we stopped at a truckstop on interstate and had lunch and bullshitted together for quite some time. Got to know each other. I'm 73 now.....can't remember his name. We were both young bucks then.....I wonder.....The RoadRunner is long gone, unfortunately...... I hope that Bob gave he old boy a good price for it and didn't screw him over.
DONT....TOUCH....A....SINGLE....THING....ON......THAT....FREAKIN....CAR! They’re only original ONCE. Just give her a good, gentle cleansing to make her look PERFECT and call it a day. And like someone else said, at least 80k. Give the guy that for taking EXCEPTIONAL CARE of this piece of automotive history.
A lot of credit goes to the owner for keeping it stored inside, and preserving it to the extent he has. Very nice of him to allow you in and to make this video. Love the details-like all the paperwork, and how the paint masking differs from plant to plant. Great story. Very watchable.
I like how these guys aren’t trying to rip this old man off unlike some other jerks who had tv shows where they say things like I need this car at yadda yadda yadda number so i can make all the profit , they valued the car honestly
t dang I don’t think Bob is BSing. He’s probably on the money as far as Mustang circles and the ‘nuts & bolts ‘ of it go... BUT the fact that this car is practically Day One would suit the fancy of a much broader audience - muscle car fans in general, collectors who only do unrestored cars, etc. That’s why I suggest the owner hires Bob to get it just right for auction and reps the car at a big name auction. And let the market decide. This car could be the marquee attraction!!
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This is a great video for us car enthusiasts, the insults about the owner and the appraiser is pathetic. We appreciate seeing someone explaining about and seeing American muscle car history. Thanks
If the 67 Shelby GT-500 that was wasted and altered is worth $65,000 then this car completely original and near mint condition has to be worth at least $100k ..
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Don't ever let someone who wants to buy your car appraise it....for obvious reasons. I drove a Boss identical to this one in the early 70's and have owned numerous ones since that time. This car is six figures....period!
When I returned from Vietnam I wanted to buy a new 68 Mustang fastback 390 w/4 speed; cost was $3900. I shopped for something a little less expensive, and ended up buying a ‘68 Roadrunner 383 w/4 speed for $2900 from Tower Motors in San Diego. Loved street racing the MoPar, but 426 Hemi’s were king. Good times back then.
Hey Bob, don't restore it. They're only original once, and they really don't get much more original than that. Cleaned up and sympathetically perfected, it's a 1 of 1 time capsule, restored it's just another highfalutin' thoroughbred Boss 302 with date coded air in the tires. Big whoop.
Imagine back then storing a really great car and never driving it for 50 years. These old Mustangs are soo dang fascinating for me (the fastbacks). Maybe reminds me of my fav hotwheels car back in the day.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
Put the car on Bring A Trailer and I bet it would fetch well over 100k . The guy who does Hagerty Barn Find Hunter on TH-cam sold his rare but worn out 1967 Ford Country Squire wagon on B.A.T. a few months ago and got 80 grand for it so the sky is the limit on that mint Boss 302
Beautiful car!! I love the old muscle cars bcuz of the history and the story that comes with it! The original owner is still with this one to tell everything about the car!! Great find!
Keep us posted, love all the paperwork. I have all of the paperwork from my cars that I have purchased since 1973, the only problem is that I don't have any of the cars!
Jerry, I have the original window price sticker from my purchase of a 1973 Mach I, 351C, 4 barrel, dual exhaust Mustang. I'm 70 y/o, have no living relatives. I don't want to sell this invoice, but would like someone to have it that would appreciate it. I don"t know if the original car still exists.What should I do with it?
@@bentnickel7487 You might try contacting the Mustang Club of America and see if they have a record of that car and who currently owns it. If they do, they might be able to put you in touch. I know if someone had the original invoice for my '65 and got in touch with me about it I would pay good money to have it!
I grew up down the road from Union Grove,Wi. I remember driving past the dealership-hundreds of times! On Friday and Saturdays we went to the Great Lakes Dragway-for some "grudge" racing!
My brother bought a Mustang, new in 1967, for $3,200...had the 289-4V, 4-speed manual, convertible top...but before everyone thinks 'wow, in this video we see a Boss 302 for $4500, new!', you need to consider the time this was, and the state we were in at the time...we were in (or deepening into) Vietnam, gas was cheap, but jobs were pretty hard to find...and in my brother's case, he worked for a MAJOR aerospace company (in aircraft production), and was bringing home $116 to $121 A WEEK for pay! At the same time, it was VERY RARE for a bank to carry a car loan longer than 24 months (first 36 month long car loan I ever saw, was when my mother wanted her own car in 1971, and the bank provided the note to her)...so in most loans, you'd divide your payment (say, $2,000, after you put up 30-50% of the purchase value in your own cash...a lot larger down payments were MANDATORY back then!), by 24-months...and even like now, if your car payment exceeds 25% of your monthly income, you're going to get into a BAD BIND quickly in your budget...so, $100 a week was about all that most 'blue collar' Americans could afford on a car note, IF THEY HAD A DECENT JOB! (on a side note...it was after the FDIC bailouts of 1980, that home loans WERE EVER allowed to extend to 15-years, too...when I was a kid, you could get a decent family home in most areas for $5k to $7k, but the notes were on 5-7 year timelines, on average)...
Yes folks didn't earn much money for jobs back in the early 1970's but my parents house was little over 40k in 1975. It was a 2,000 sqft and 75% brick outer structure.
Any mustang with a 302 or the later 5.0 and the latest 5.0 are ALL incredible machines. The BOSS is just that in my opinion. The leader, the beast, the ultimate! What a car. Love it!!!! Don't worry, I love all the other beasts too. The boss 302/429 mustangs are all just a bit more special to me. Thanks for the video.
Not just the 302. The 289 Windsor seen in '65-'66 Mustangs, Shelby 289 Cobras, the GT-40 Mk. I, etc., is essentially the same motor as the 302, just with a smaller cylinder bore (if you bore out a 289 .060 oversize, you basically get a 302 Windsor), and it was also an excellemt motor (especially in its solid-lifter "Hi-Po" form). That Windsor series V8 was built like a tank, and was very easy to modify for increased power output. The 5.0 from the '80's and '90's is also a 302 Windsor, just with modern electronics, fuel injection, better heads, etc. It should be noted that the Boss 302 is significantly different from the standard 302 Windsor, however (the Boss is a specialized racing motor), and I believe the modern 5.0 is a completely different motor.
Most of these "technical advisors " probably have it put on their shirts themselves. Idiots picking these 50 year old mustang's apart. I'd throw them and their checkbook off my place.
I just recently had sold my 1966 convertible Mustang numbers matching car that I had gotten when I was 15 years old and I completely restored it I'm 30 years old now it was my first car had so much fun memories in that car and I sold it and now I have a 1969 Boss 429
I hope he didn't give this gem away to that stinking thief for no 50 G's. That car would get 5 to six times that at auction. 50G's, dam, you can't even buy a decent replacement, if you were to take that money and go shopping for something new. That's an insult, and if I were the owner, I'd take him off the list of potential buyers, let alone call him first. That makes me so mad, to see someone who knows what it's worth, to go and try and steal the car from a guy who obviously loved it and took extra care of it for all those years, and hardly even drove it. Shame on him!!!!! Just read through the comments to see if others felt the same way I do about the price. Now, if that many people could warn potential sellers, this thief, could be put out of business! And rightly so!!!!!
At around 14.00 there talking around 50 grand what a joke folks that's a insult I would have sold it to anybody but never them this thing had the original tires
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I thought that it would go for a lot more than that. But maybe that's the market value now?
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
One of favorite muscle cars. Friend of mine had the exact car and color brand new. I fell in love with in less than 3 seconds. And when he started it up and he drove off normally. It was an awesome sounding car. It's was we called a bitchin ride.
I have a Boss 302, without the correct engine, actually a real 351Boss. Body pretty solid, nothing close to that, people randomly stop by to buy, last guy came with cash, I said it's not for sale. I wouldn't consider $30,000. $50,000 for that car is criminal.
My dad's cousin had a 1970 BOSS 302 back in 1976, it didn't have any anti-freeze in the radiator and the engine block cracked in 3, or 4 different places. He said they tried welding the block, but it never worked out and he eventually sold the car about 6 months later.
This is so fascinating to see the run down on how these cars came from the factory. What stands out to me is how poor the build quality was compared to cars today
After watching the entire video, $45-$75 g’s is way too cheap !! Serious this car is worth @ least $100’grand if not more !!! It’s only new once and with those low miles and all the original documentation and the originality of this car !!!!! Well kept up too, clean it up and don’t restore it !! It’s Only Original Once !!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍👍👍😊😊😊
ANY car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Period. With newer generations preferring performance to nostalgia that number is likely to fall as us old guys who value old cars die off.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
When I was 16 and ink still wet on my license, a friend and I were cruising around in my parents ’65, 2bbl, 289 Mustang. A guy pulls up next to us with his new ’70 Boss 302 and wants to race. Of course I couldn’t resist, so raced him twice and beat him twice. Saw him a few years later at a wedding and we talked about that night. He said he was so pissed loosing to me, he sold the car a week later :-)
@@kimosabbe50 Likely, but there are other explanations possible. The Boss was geared for road racing (Trans Am), not drag racing. This is to say, it was set up more for top end than for off the line speed. So in a short sprint, it wasn't that quick. On the other hand, it should still be quicker than a stock 289-2V if driven properly (a stock 289 Hi-Po might be another matter, though!). This is speaking as someone who owns a '65 with a 289-2V (though mine currently has a 4 barrel Holley on it rather than the stock carb)
When I was 14 there was a house on the way to the city pool that had 4 mustangs in the yard. Old cars. Didn’t run. One was a 70 boss 302. White. I asked them if they would sell it to me. I wanted that car so bad. Still do. I’m 44 now. I bet the elderly lady thought I was crazy
Rookie with a BR - yeah right. It doesn’t matter because he’s a hoarder and hoarders don’t sell. He will pass on and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $25K.
Wow - had a lot of respect, and then he said what he'd pay and appraise it at - immediately gone. Do NOT sell it to this man. Put it out on the open market - and get what it really is worth.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
69 air cleaner on a 70 - what is up with that? Car is worth 75K as it sits and probably would go north of that if properly advertised, auctioned AS IS. Even the Dearborn Autolite assembly line radiator cap was there.
Boomers always wanting to totally restore stuff. Leave it alone! It's absolutely perfect as is, and it's got a history that can never be brought back after restoration.
People being able to see all these car buying and rescue videos has wildly inflated the value of these cars. People in the comment section below dont realize how much time effort and grief goes into a restoration of one these old beauties. Sure do love these cars.
$4575.00 was a lot of money in 1970. Not many of us had it, what with a Wife, a couple kids, house payments and utilities on $3 or $4 bucks an hour,, there wasn't that kind of money to spend on a muscle car but man oh man did we wish we could afford one.
Work out after some research what you think and would like to get for the car, then when your happy with a price take it to auction and put a reserve on it , make up your mind your not letting it go for a penny less, if it doesn,t get your reserve , take it back home, gaurntee someone will get in touch through auction house , stick to your guns , you,ll get what you want ,personally I would stick $80,000 on this example.
Truth is... Ford used whatever they had on the Shelf. When one parts supplier ran out, the next parts supplier was standing right there waiting. Or at least... That's what one of the executives from Ford Motor Company at the time, told me. As I was restoring the number 11 Mustang off the assembly line. A 64 and 1/2 convertible, in Sunset yellow. The very next convertible to roll off the assembly line, was sold to a teacher, the day before Mustang were actually available to be sold. She paid cash. Which by our estimation, is the last time, a teacher could afford to pay cash, for any car.
Do all the people basing their opinion on the value of this car by what they see on TV and auctions get a grip the man valued the car fairly and yes if the original paint comes out awesome it’ll add $20-$25,000 to the value it’s not $100,000 car he valued it fairly and knows what he’s doing. The warped perception of the value of classic cars is out of control, especially people that don’t know the difference between a smog pump and a power steering pump. I also believe that a lot of these opinions are based on envy and jealousy to all the people saying it’s 100 K plus are any of you gonna pay that ummm no! Another great video. I hope this man’s car goes to the right place and gets kept original. Cheers.
extremely rare to see a car like that at an auction. Examples like this are often traded by word of mouth by the big players in the hobby (of which Perkins is most assuredly one of the very few Boss experts). Do you really think 50K was a fair offer? That was insulting. Just the 2 left tires could probably sell for well over 10K.
What does a wholesale vs. retail value even mean for a collector car such as this? It’s not a run of the mill used car. The appraisal does seem low to me based on originality. I think the only reason this video exists is because Bob wasn’t able to buy this car for 40k. If Bob knows of any Boss 302 in this condition and this original for under 60k I will buy it tomorrow. We didn’t see condition of the underside so maybe there is significant rust there. That is the only thing I can’t think of for such a vehicle. I hope if Darrell ever sells the car that he gets as much as he can since he’s been such a great caretaker of the car.
Wholesale on a collector car means having what we call "a little room.' Retail means no room. For example, you can buy a "done" car for say $100,000 and you buy the unrestored car for $50,000 and invest $50,000 to make it $100,000. You've paid full retail, but why not then just go out and get a done car to start with? Well, that's what most people do when the price is too high. A wholesale price would be a little less to allow room and payment for your time and work. I think what you are missing here is not realizing the passion of real collectors such as Bob and how they make money in the hobby, which is their business. Perkins would be one of the few people in the world to have the parts and expertise to take this car to another level, which if a regular person bought they would have to take to a person like Bob - if they could get the shop time - and then pay to restore and be underwater. The owner of this car, it turns out, did not want to sell the car at that time, or he wanted to take his time, which is understandable. If you want a Boss 302 with more miles but in better unrestored, original condition than this, email me and I'll send you to one and I'm not asking for a dime out of anybody. I do this channel, but I am also an enthusiast with cars. The way I made money with cars was to buy and hold for a long time, but I did not buy my cars to sell. I just wanted them. jerryheasley@gmail.com
Wow ! What a find. And to think of all the stuff we thru out for the sake of drag racing . Clamps and useless solenoids speedo cables .I even know of a guy who through out a complete W-31 ram air set up for a 68 Cutlass S Impressive car ! HAPPY MOTORING !
He has the parts, facilities and expertise to turn this car into one of the best in the world, which if he doesn't do it, who would and who can? When Bob talked about not that many left, he didn't refer to just any Boss 302, he referred to cars like this - low miles and all there. This car has potential few other Boss 302s out there have, if the right person saves it as such. You think he wants this car that bad? Nah, he has a passion for classic Mustangs, which is why he has done so much good for this hobby, like saving back that Hubert Platt car for 20 years and gathering parts and working years to return it to its glory days. This takes stamina and purpose to do. You look at this as taking, when it is giving. Greedy, self-serving people would not have let me go along to video this story, fearing somebody else would get the car. Bob wants to save it and build it up, so I hope I can make this clear to understand.
Jerry Heasley I don’t know...I understand what you’re saying, but it just doesn’t feel right. Why don’t you tell Bob him and I should talk about taking this car off his plate. I’ve got just as much resources as he does and would show case this vehicle to another type of audience that Bob can’t reach.
Untouched and original no rust and engine runs? You'll never see one like this ever again. It's worth 1 million. The Judge should have given the toothless man 90k.
It's a nice car, but no way it's a $90K car, you need to get back in touch with reality and stop watching those bull shit made for TV fake ass auctions
What a awsome find. That owner seemed very nice. He very emotionally attached to his car as I would b to. God bless all
If this was my car, no less than 70k the conversation would start at...lol
In about 1989, my wife won a 1969 Grabber Green Boss 302. At that time, Chief Auto Parts (if my memory of the name is correct) sponsored the NHRA national race at the Texas Motorplex near Ennis Texas and was giving away the Boss and a Chevrolet ??? to promote the race. They had discount tickets (or coupons) to the race at their stores. My wife went to their store in Cleburne Texas and bought some tickets. Unknown to her, she was entered in the contest to win one of the cars. A few weeks after the race, she got a call telling her she had won and asking here to return to the store to be presented with the car. She thought it was a joke but went anyway and was given the car.
The car would hardly run and we took it to the Ford dealer in Cleburne and the mechanics there knew little to nothing about Boss's and couldn't fix it. They also thought it might be a fake. After some research we found out it was a valuable car ( I didn't know what is was at first) and we found a Mustang restorer in Benbrook Texas who verified it was authentic and fixed it. Earlier he had been at the race in Ennis and had hoped he would win the car.
We drove it some on the back roads. I remember it being pretty fast but it road walked a lot. We lived in the country at the time and didn't have a garage for it. Although the car was parked over a hundred yards from the highway, a lot of people stopped by and wanted to buy it. I think some of them thought we didn't know the value of the car and were hoping to get it for a song.
We eventually sold it to someone from Alvarado Texas for $17,500 in about 1990 or 1991. We thought about keeping it but didn't have a garage and were also concerned that we could blow up the engine on our back road drives. Also we didn't have a lot of money.
I HAVE DREAMED AND LUSTED OVER THIS CAR IN THIS SPEC ALL MY LIFE. I GOT A MODEL OF A YELLOW BOSS 302 WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID AND NOW MY DAUGHTER HAS IT NOW.
Same here too!!! 👍👍❤️❤️
An exact, exact Boss 302....same color, year, etc and I, with my RoadRunner, in 1972 raced most of the way on old Highway 16 in southern Minnesota and out onto interstate 90, sometimes me ahead, sometimes him ahead....until we stopped at a truckstop on interstate and had lunch and bullshitted together for quite some time. Got to know each other. I'm 73 now.....can't remember his name. We were both young bucks then.....I wonder.....The RoadRunner is long gone, unfortunately...... I hope that Bob gave he old boy a good price for it and didn't screw him over.
Man, that is a very cool story. The memories! What if that is indeed the same dude?
DONT....TOUCH....A....SINGLE....THING....ON......THAT....FREAKIN....CAR! They’re only original ONCE. Just give her a good, gentle cleansing to make her look PERFECT and call it a day. And like someone else said, at least 80k. Give the guy that for taking EXCEPTIONAL CARE of this piece of automotive history.
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
Old muscle cars are more desirable today than they were back in the day. Priceless
A lot of credit goes to the owner for keeping it stored inside, and preserving it to the extent he has. Very nice of him to allow you in and to make this video. Love the details-like all the paperwork, and how the paint masking differs from plant to plant. Great story. Very watchable.
Thanks very much for your thoughtful words.
I have no clue how I came across this but man it made me happy to watch. Thank you sirs.🙏
Absolutely beautiful rare gem find.
I like how these guys aren’t trying to rip this old man off unlike some other jerks who had tv shows where they say things like
I need this car at yadda yadda yadda number so i can make all the profit , they valued the car honestly
Blows my mind, people call these ‘experts’ they allow themselves to get ripped off!
Bring it to an auction and let the world determine its value!
t dang I don’t think Bob is BSing. He’s probably on the money as far as Mustang circles and the ‘nuts & bolts ‘ of it go... BUT the fact that this car is practically Day One would suit the fancy of a much broader audience - muscle car fans in general, collectors who only do unrestored cars, etc. That’s why I suggest the owner hires Bob to get it just right for auction and reps the car at a big name auction. And let the market decide. This car could be the marquee attraction!!
your correct
Museum piece for sure. Very well kept.
I HAVE PAINTED CARS FOR 47 YEARS. WHEN GM USED LAQUER AND FORD AND CHRY USED ACHRILIC ENAMEL. BEFOR BASE COAT CLEAR COAT CAME OUT.DURING THAT TIME I USED A AIR FED RESPERATOR , AND I NEVER PAINTED IN MY TIETY WHITES
Wow but no tyre air bottle?? Love it when an expert says "I've never seen that before". or the number on the heat riser hose clamp...
If there were a tire air bottle, it would be UNDER the spare tire. At least mine was, in 1970.
Respect for the man to keep car in such great shape.
Absolutely amazing car!!! Hope the car eventually goes to someone who can appreciate it as much as this man does!
This is a great video for us car enthusiasts, the insults about the owner and the appraiser is pathetic. We appreciate seeing someone explaining about and seeing American muscle car history. Thanks
Appreciate the reinforcement.
Wise words Sir.
I really like the dudes attitude seams like a nice guy what a nice car
Just great! Always enjoy Bob. I’ve even called him before with questions. Super nice guy!
If the 67 Shelby GT-500 that was wasted and altered is worth $65,000 then this car completely original and near mint condition has to be worth at least $100k ..
It's not always the the condition of the car but the style, type and rarity. A Shelby will always bring money to the table than a Boss.
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Don't ever let someone who wants to buy your car appraise it....for obvious reasons. I drove a Boss identical to this one in the early 70's and have owned numerous ones since that time. This car is six figures....period!
Now you can't get no better than that find right there mister Jerry
When I returned from Vietnam I wanted to buy a new 68 Mustang fastback 390 w/4 speed; cost was $3900. I shopped for something a little less expensive, and ended up buying a ‘68 Roadrunner 383 w/4 speed for $2900 from Tower Motors in San Diego. Loved street racing the MoPar, but 426 Hemi’s were king. Good times back then.
I used to smoke Hemi cars with my 440 six pak Challenger. Got it tuned by the famous Dandy Dick Landy back in the day.
Hey Bob, don't restore it. They're only original once, and they really don't get much more original than that. Cleaned up and sympathetically perfected, it's a 1 of 1 time capsule, restored it's just another highfalutin' thoroughbred Boss 302 with date coded air in the tires. Big whoop.
One things for sure, the Boss 302 is a truely great looking car.
It sure is!
Imagine back then storing a really great car and never driving it for 50 years. These old Mustangs are soo dang fascinating for me (the fastbacks). Maybe reminds me of my fav hotwheels car back in the day.
That's a 100,00 dollar Boss 302 all day long!
YUP, THATS WHAT I SAID, SHOULD START AT $100,000
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
@joseph thomas hoarders never sell. Ever.
Wth this ninja knows clamp numbers by heart. I'm so behind the curve
What a cool owner! Seems like the kind guy you wanna meet!
I think the oo was low balled. That's a $75,000 car, with a few days of cleaning. Maybe more. The orig paint, is mint.
It was obviously parody and the guy was joking.
@@almodequindre8601 he didn't get the joke
@@korymanuel7158 I guess not.
Put the car on Bring A Trailer and I bet it would fetch well over 100k . The guy who does Hagerty Barn Find Hunter on TH-cam sold his rare but worn out 1967 Ford Country Squire wagon on B.A.T. a few months ago and got 80 grand for it so the sky is the limit on that mint Boss 302
I sure hope that this owner didn't sell that car for no 45-55k. That would be robbery.
beautiful car. well kept and all the original paper work, incredible
If I was Darrell, I would hire Bob to prep and represent the car at Barrett Jackson or Mecums- you know it would be the star of the show!!!
You can loose 20 percent of your money to those auction houses. If you know how to sell it, you can make a hell of a lot more.
Beautiful car!! I love the old muscle cars bcuz of the history and the story that comes with it! The original owner is still with this one to tell everything about the car!! Great find!
Keep us posted, love all the paperwork. I have all of the paperwork from my cars that I have purchased since 1973, the only problem is that I don't have any of the cars!
Will do.
Scott Rasmussen lmao....the cars would take up too much space in the garage anyway!!!!
Jerry, I have the original window price sticker from my purchase of a 1973 Mach I, 351C, 4 barrel, dual exhaust Mustang. I'm 70 y/o, have no living relatives. I don't want to sell this invoice, but would like someone to have it that would appreciate it. I don"t know if the original car still exists.What should I do with it?
@@bentnickel7487 You might try contacting the Mustang Club of America and see if they have a record of that car and who currently owns it. If they do, they might be able to put you in touch. I know if someone had the original invoice for my '65 and got in touch with me about it I would pay good money to have it!
@@wildwind4456 Thank you, so much. I hadn't considered that.
They try to poke their eyes out and lowball is what gets me. 100 k car for sure .
I grew up down the road from Union Grove,Wi. I remember driving past the dealership-hundreds of times! On Friday and Saturdays we went to the Great Lakes Dragway-for some "grudge" racing!
12:38 “What are your plans for the car?”
“Keep lookin’ at it; & lovin’ it.”
Words of a TRUE MUSTANG GUY‼️
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My brother bought a Mustang, new in 1967, for $3,200...had the 289-4V, 4-speed manual, convertible top...but before everyone thinks 'wow, in this video we see a Boss 302 for $4500, new!', you need to consider the time this was, and the state we were in at the time...we were in (or deepening into) Vietnam, gas was cheap, but jobs were pretty hard to find...and in my brother's case, he worked for a MAJOR aerospace company (in aircraft production), and was bringing home $116 to $121 A WEEK for pay! At the same time, it was VERY RARE for a bank to carry a car loan longer than 24 months (first 36 month long car loan I ever saw, was when my mother wanted her own car in 1971, and the bank provided the note to her)...so in most loans, you'd divide your payment (say, $2,000, after you put up 30-50% of the purchase value in your own cash...a lot larger down payments were MANDATORY back then!), by 24-months...and even like now, if your car payment exceeds 25% of your monthly income, you're going to get into a BAD BIND quickly in your budget...so, $100 a week was about all that most 'blue collar' Americans could afford on a car note, IF THEY HAD A DECENT JOB!
(on a side note...it was after the FDIC bailouts of 1980, that home loans WERE EVER allowed to extend to 15-years, too...when I was a kid, you could get a decent family home in most areas for $5k to $7k, but the notes were on 5-7 year timelines, on average)...
Yes folks didn't earn much money for jobs back in the early 1970's but my parents house was little over 40k in 1975. It was a 2,000 sqft and 75% brick outer structure.
Any mustang with a 302 or the later 5.0 and the latest 5.0 are ALL incredible machines. The BOSS is just that in my opinion. The leader, the beast, the ultimate! What a car. Love it!!!! Don't worry, I love all the other beasts too. The boss 302/429 mustangs are all just a bit more special to me. Thanks for the video.
Not just the 302. The 289 Windsor seen in '65-'66 Mustangs, Shelby 289 Cobras, the GT-40 Mk. I, etc., is essentially the same motor as the 302, just with a smaller cylinder bore (if you bore out a 289 .060 oversize, you basically get a 302 Windsor), and it was also an excellemt motor (especially in its solid-lifter "Hi-Po" form). That Windsor series V8 was built like a tank, and was very easy to modify for increased power output. The 5.0 from the '80's and '90's is also a 302 Windsor, just with modern electronics, fuel injection, better heads, etc. It should be noted that the Boss 302 is significantly different from the standard 302 Windsor, however (the Boss is a specialized racing motor), and I believe the modern 5.0 is a completely different motor.
i wish people would stop calling every old car they see in a garage a 'barn find'. This car was very well taken care of, it was even on jack stands!
I agree
Just detail it and LEAVE IT ALONE. The originality of that thing is priceless.
Exactly
Most of these "technical advisors " probably have it put on their shirts themselves. Idiots picking these 50 year old mustang's apart. I'd throw them and their checkbook off my place.
Another amazing find...Thanks Jerry
That car should stay exactly as it is. It would be a shame to restore such a great survivor.
This is an awesome story. Thank you for sharing it
I just recently had sold my 1966 convertible Mustang numbers matching car that I had gotten when I was 15 years old and I completely restored it I'm 30 years old now it was my first car had so much fun memories in that car and I sold it and now I have a 1969 Boss 429
I hope he didn't give this gem away to that stinking thief for no 50 G's. That car would get 5 to six times that at auction. 50G's, dam, you can't even buy a decent replacement, if you were to take that money and go shopping for something new. That's an insult, and if I were the owner, I'd take him off the list of potential buyers, let alone call him first. That makes me so mad, to see someone who knows what it's worth, to go and try and steal the car from a guy who obviously loved it and took extra care of it for all those years, and hardly even drove it. Shame on him!!!!! Just read through the comments to see if others felt the same way I do about the price. Now, if that many people could warn potential sellers, this thief, could be put out of business! And rightly so!!!!!
250k plus
Our painter at the fab shop I worked at was grumpy every morning until he painted his first tank after that he was a happy man the rest of the day lol
At around 14.00 there talking around 50 grand what a joke folks that's a insult I would have sold it to anybody but never them this thing had the original tires
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I thought that it would go for a lot more than that. But maybe that's the market value now?
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
One of favorite muscle cars. Friend of mine had the exact car and color brand new. I fell in love with in less than 3 seconds. And when he started it up and he drove off normally. It was an awesome sounding car. It's was we called a bitchin ride.
I have a Boss 302, without the correct engine, actually a real 351Boss. Body pretty solid, nothing close to that, people randomly stop by to buy, last guy came with cash, I said it's not for sale. I wouldn't consider $30,000. $50,000 for that car is criminal.
I wish I still had my mustangs. In 1973 I had a black 1964 , and in 1978 I had a 1970 boss mustang ☺️
Must have played some Ice Hockey
Been to Union Grove. Beautiful country.
Awesome car.
I'd like to visit there again and see Daryl's collection.
Yea way low isn’t the word. Don’t sell to CROOKS!
It's a labor of love. If they love it they will take the loss on the purchase and restoration.
My dad's cousin had a 1970 BOSS 302 back in 1976, it didn't have any anti-freeze in the radiator and the engine block cracked in 3, or 4 different places. He said they tried welding the block, but it never worked out and he eventually sold the car about 6 months later.
I'm appalled by the number of people that thought that the offer of $500 was real!
I love these videos. Super relaxing finding these rare cars
This is so fascinating to see the run down on how these cars came from the factory. What stands out to me is how poor the build quality was compared to cars today
Poor build quality....you aint seen noth'n til you see AMC cars of the same era, now that was poor build quality.
What a great treasure to see. Good for the old guy, he has this eye candy anytime he wants.
After watching the entire video, $45-$75 g’s is way too cheap !! Serious this car is worth @ least $100’grand if not more !!! It’s only new once and with those low miles and all the original documentation and the originality of this car !!!!! Well kept up too, clean it up and don’t restore it !! It’s Only Original Once !!!! 👍👍❤️❤️👍👍👍👍😊😊😊
Mecum auto auctions ??
ANY car is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Period. With newer generations preferring performance to nostalgia that number is likely to fall as us old guys who value old cars die off.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
When I was 16 and ink still wet on my license, a friend and I were cruising around in my parents ’65, 2bbl, 289 Mustang. A guy pulls up next to us with his new ’70 Boss 302 and wants to race. Of course I couldn’t resist, so raced him twice and beat him twice. Saw him a few years later at a wedding and we talked about that night. He said he was so pissed loosing to me, he sold the car a week later :-)
Ya but 289s are awesome motors and it depends on how much motors are built on each individual motor.
The guy must not have known how to drive that 302. No other explanation.
@@kimosabbe50 Likely, but there are other explanations possible. The Boss was geared for road racing (Trans Am), not drag racing. This is to say, it was set up more for top end than for off the line speed. So in a short sprint, it wasn't that quick. On the other hand, it should still be quicker than a stock 289-2V if driven properly (a stock 289 Hi-Po might be another matter, though!). This is speaking as someone who owns a '65 with a 289-2V (though mine currently has a 4 barrel Holley on it rather than the stock carb)
Bro like... The car is beautiful and add to that ALL the original Paperwork and info???? That in and of itself is really cool and rare imo
Awesome Barn Find!! 👍🏻👍🏻Thank You for sharing.
damn nothing gets better
When I was 14 there was a house on the way to the city pool that had 4 mustangs in the yard. Old cars. Didn’t run. One was a 70 boss 302. White. I asked them if they would sell it to me. I wanted that car so bad. Still do. I’m 44 now. I bet the elderly lady thought I was crazy
Is the Boss 302 still there?
100k would be a solid starting point, how many are still out there in that same condition untouched...
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
Exactly it could fetch 250k imo
Rookie with a BR - yeah right. It doesn’t matter because he’s a hoarder and hoarders don’t sell. He will pass on and his dumbass kids will sell it on Craigslist for $25K.
@@petersouthernboy6327 ur mad ur old was didnt buy one
Rookie with a BR - I collect big block muscle cars. Would much rather have a Boss 429 Mustang.
Seen one even nicer and just as original at a car show before. Seeing that dealer card with the price in the window was a trip through time.
Wow - had a lot of respect, and then he said what he'd pay and appraise it at - immediately gone. Do NOT sell it to this man. Put it out on the open market - and get what it really is worth.
This car should sell for 90 or 100 grand.
Too many viewers here have a warped perception of present day muscle car valuations. The bloom came off that rose in 2008. (The HEMI cars really got pounded) People are valuing this particular man’s car like a Pebble Beach Concours car - literally. They made over 7,000 Boss 302’s in 1970 - it’s a fantastic, sexy car but it’s not exceptionally rare.
69 air cleaner on a 70 - what is up with that? Car is worth 75K as it sits and probably would go north of that if properly advertised, auctioned AS IS. Even the Dearborn Autolite assembly line radiator cap was there.
Would you like to make an offer?
These guys should be arrested for trying to rob the man in his house
Good video, seems like a great guy. Loved his car.
Its a survivor dont touch it!
You'll be sorry
Why the heck would they want to restore this car? GIVE ME A BREAK!
This tool who is trying to steal this car for 40 grand less than what it's really worth.
Thats a keeper if you ask me. It's a great find. My favorite stang. BOSS
Boomers always wanting to totally restore stuff. Leave it alone! It's absolutely perfect as is, and it's got a history that can never be brought back after restoration.
"A car depreciates the moment you drive it off the showroom floor" ~Conventional Wisdom "Hold my beer" ~1970 Boss 302
Thats badass!!! Love the boss!
People being able to see all these car buying and rescue videos has wildly inflated the value of these cars. People in the comment section below dont realize how much time effort and grief goes into a restoration of one these old beauties. Sure do love these cars.
$4575.00 was a lot of money in 1970. Not many of us had it, what with a Wife, a couple kids, house payments and utilities on $3 or $4 bucks an hour,, there wasn't that kind of money to spend on a muscle car but man oh man did we wish we could afford one.
Exactly, people today don't now how much $4574 was in 1970.
@ $3.50/hr thats approximatly $6000-6500 take home annual salary...Estimating 75% of salery in todays dollars thats still a chunk of money.
I would clean it up but no way would I restore this beautiful baby!
Work out after some research what you think and would like to get for the car, then when your happy with a price take it to auction and put a reserve on it , make up your mind your not letting it go for a penny less, if it doesn,t get your reserve , take it back home, gaurntee someone will get in touch through auction house , stick to your guns , you,ll get what you want ,personally I would stick $80,000 on this example.
I really enjoyed this one Daryl was a nice fella
Truth is... Ford used whatever they had on the Shelf. When one parts supplier ran out, the next parts supplier was standing right there waiting. Or at least... That's what one of the executives from Ford Motor Company at the time, told me. As I was restoring the number 11 Mustang off the assembly line. A 64 and 1/2 convertible, in Sunset yellow. The very next convertible to roll off the assembly line, was sold to a teacher, the day before Mustang were actually available to be sold. She paid cash. Which by our estimation, is the last time, a teacher could afford to pay cash, for any car.
Super Survivor, obviously the old boys pride and joy 🤩
Nah end of times here. $100,000 or get the fxxx off my property. That car is gold.
I love watching these videos - such infinite knowledge of details! Fascinating - much respect for this man. And the shop - wow!!!
$50,000?? That's a completely lowball number....Hope he does not sell for that to him.
I have a 1970 Ford xl 429 4v and that paint they put on is hard as a rock hard to sand
Do all the people basing their opinion on the value of this car by what they see on TV and auctions get a grip the man valued the car fairly and yes if the original paint comes out awesome it’ll add $20-$25,000 to the value it’s not $100,000 car he valued it fairly and knows what he’s doing. The warped perception of the value of classic cars is out of control, especially people that don’t know the difference between a smog pump and a power steering pump. I also believe that a lot of these opinions are based on envy and jealousy to all the people saying it’s 100 K plus are any of you gonna pay that ummm no! Another great video. I hope this man’s car goes to the right place and gets kept original. Cheers.
Thanks for saying what I want to say.
@@thewriter2549yes… interestingly: money , Rumour & Drama inflate some……!
extremely rare to see a car like that at an auction. Examples like this are often traded by word of mouth by the big players in the hobby (of which Perkins is most assuredly one of the very few Boss experts). Do you really think 50K was a fair offer? That was insulting. Just the 2 left tires could probably sell for well over 10K.
Just amazing!!! What an amazing find!!!
What does a wholesale vs. retail value even mean for a collector car such as this? It’s not a run of the mill used car. The appraisal does seem low to me based on originality. I think the only reason this video exists is because Bob wasn’t able to buy this car for 40k. If Bob knows of any Boss 302 in this condition and this original for under 60k I will buy it tomorrow. We didn’t see condition of the underside so maybe there is significant rust there. That is the only thing I can’t think of for such a vehicle. I hope if Darrell ever sells the car that he gets as much as he can since he’s been such a great caretaker of the car.
Wholesale on a collector car means having what we call "a little room.' Retail means no room. For example, you can buy a "done" car for say $100,000 and you buy the unrestored car for $50,000 and invest $50,000 to make it $100,000. You've paid full retail, but why not then just go out and get a done car to start with? Well, that's what most people do when the price is too high. A wholesale price would be a little less to allow room and payment for your time and work. I think what you are missing here is not realizing the passion of real collectors such as Bob and how they make money in the hobby, which is their business. Perkins would be one of the few people in the world to have the parts and expertise to take this car to another level, which if a regular person bought they would have to take to a person like Bob - if they could get the shop time - and then pay to restore and be underwater. The owner of this car, it turns out, did not want to sell the car at that time, or he wanted to take his time, which is understandable. If you want a Boss 302 with more miles but in better unrestored, original condition than this, email me and I'll send you to one and I'm not asking for a dime out of anybody. I do this channel, but I am also an enthusiast with cars. The way I made money with cars was to buy and hold for a long time, but I did not buy my cars to sell. I just wanted them. jerryheasley@gmail.com
Wow ! What a find. And to think of all the stuff we thru out for the sake of drag racing . Clamps and useless solenoids speedo cables .I even know of a guy who through out a complete W-31 ram air set up for a 68 Cutlass S
Impressive car ! HAPPY MOTORING !
$65,000 range? Yeah right! Should start at $100,000
No, this is not a Pebble Beach Concours car ($120K). Half that. Ford made 7,013 1970 Boss 302’s.
I would love to have this car! Jerry please keep these barn finds coming..
I got a call on a 240Z (Datsun) in a barn. What about this? I am wondering if this would be interesting to people. I think so, but?
@@thewriter2549 I know many people that love those old Z cars..
Jerry, I really hope that guy doesn’t end up with this car. He’s already got enough mustangs to last him the rest of his life.
He has the parts, facilities and expertise to turn this car into one of the best in the world, which if he doesn't do it, who would and who can? When Bob talked about not that many left, he didn't refer to just any Boss 302, he referred to cars like this - low miles and all there. This car has potential few other Boss 302s out there have, if the right person saves it as such. You think he wants this car that bad? Nah, he has a passion for classic Mustangs, which is why he has done so much good for this hobby, like saving back that Hubert Platt car for 20 years and gathering parts and working years to return it to its glory days. This takes stamina and purpose to do. You look at this as taking, when it is giving. Greedy, self-serving people would not have let me go along to video this story, fearing somebody else would get the car. Bob wants to save it and build it up, so I hope I can make this clear to understand.
Jerry Heasley I don’t know...I understand what you’re saying, but it just doesn’t feel right. Why don’t you tell Bob him and I should talk about taking this car off his plate. I’ve got just as much resources as he does and would show case this vehicle to another type of audience that Bob can’t reach.
The comment made in the beginning sounded like he wanted to steal it! NiceMustang,I’d love to own one of these.👍🏻
What comment was that?
Untouched and original no rust and engine runs? You'll never see one like this ever again. It's worth 1 million. The Judge should have given the toothless man 90k.
It's a nice car, but no way it's a $90K car, you need to get back in touch with reality and stop watching those bull shit made for TV fake ass auctions
Thanks for sharing these videos, super interesting info you wont find many other places