Regarding your note about 4472 hauling the Queen Mother on 19th November 1984, its worth noting that as the Royal Train (as introduced in 1977) was airbrake only, and as Flying Scotsman was vacuum brake only at the time, for trip from Stratford to North Woolwich (for the opening of the Museum), 4472's train was made up with a MK1 Pullman Parlour and a Mk1 brake open coach in Pullman colours (both normally used on the old SLOA Pullman set). Sutherland was not only the first steam loco to haul a train conveying a reigning monarch on the UK mainline network since 1968, but was also the first steam loco to ever haul the 1977 built royal train, which by 2002 consisted of Mk2a and Mk3a coaches (the 1977 royal train is a a fascinating story in its own right). My friends Grandfather (John Peggs) not only drove Sutherland when she was at Bressingham, but also drove Scotsman on her return north after hauling the train for the late Queen mother in 1984, from March to Sleaford via Spalding. Holyhead should be pronounced Holly Head, otherwise a interesting documentary of a loco I used to see in my childhood at Bressingham during that museums hayday. However how the Butlins engines came to be based at Bressingham is a little wrong. It was Butlins who approached the Transport Trust in regards to rehousing their steam locos, it just happened that Alan Bloom was also on the Transport Trusts committee at this time. As far as I am aware there was never ever any formal approach from Alan to Billy Butlins organisation prior to this time. At one time, several other smaller Butlins engines were stored at Bressingham (not on public display) for a few weeks until the transport trust could find them new homes. It was also Alan Bloom who reached out to Bill McAlpine in 1972 to help save Flying Scotsman, originally with the intention of being owned by a consortium and based at Bressingham, however Bill decided if the engine was to be saved in time before the creditors claimed her, he would need action immediately and purchase her out right. 6223 and 6100 did not have overhauls at Bressingham, but where just retubed, Sutherland failing after a few years as you said due to firebox leakage issue that required substantial repair, but I have been told she was not in great mechanical condition when she was running. What killed off large mainline steam locos running at Bressingham was the changes to boiler inspections rules. Prior to 1978 boiler inspectors were happy for a simple retube and test in frames. After this time they wanted the boiler out of the frames and all lagging and tubes removed, and Alan was not willing to spend money on someone else's loco (these days Bressingham don't even like spending money on what few locos and traction engines it hasn't sold off since Alan died) watched a few of your documentaries now, you have gained yourself a new subscriber.
forgot to add in my other comment, that's 2 of the former LMS mainline locos that Butlins saved you've made programmes on, I'm hoping you also cover Princess Margret Rose and Royal Scot.
I thinks it’s a clumsy edit, rather than a mistake. As he said Butlin purchased 3 Pacific’s. He then lists all three, but with Royal Scot in the middle. It’s a really good video, and enjoyed it. But it is pronounced ‘Holly Head’ not ‘Holy Head’.
Regarding your note about 4472 hauling the Queen Mother on 19th November 1984, its worth noting that as the Royal Train (as introduced in 1977) was airbrake only, and as Flying Scotsman was vacuum brake only at the time, for trip from Stratford to North Woolwich (for the opening of the Museum), 4472's train was made up with a MK1 Pullman Parlour and a Mk1 brake open coach in Pullman colours (both normally used on the old SLOA Pullman set).
Sutherland was not only the first steam loco to haul a train conveying a reigning monarch on the UK mainline network since 1968, but was also the first steam loco to ever haul the 1977 built royal train, which by 2002 consisted of Mk2a and Mk3a coaches (the 1977 royal train is a a fascinating story in its own right).
My friends Grandfather (John Peggs) not only drove Sutherland when she was at Bressingham, but also drove Scotsman on her return north after hauling the train for the late Queen mother in 1984, from March to Sleaford via Spalding.
Holyhead should be pronounced Holly Head, otherwise a interesting documentary of a loco I used to see in my childhood at Bressingham during that museums hayday. However how the Butlins engines came to be based at Bressingham is a little wrong. It was Butlins who approached the Transport Trust in regards to rehousing their steam locos, it just happened that Alan Bloom was also on the Transport Trusts committee at this time. As far as I am aware there was never ever any formal approach from Alan to Billy Butlins organisation prior to this time. At one time, several other smaller Butlins engines were stored at Bressingham (not on public display) for a few weeks until the transport trust could find them new homes. It was also Alan Bloom who reached out to Bill McAlpine in 1972 to help save Flying Scotsman, originally with the intention of being owned by a consortium and based at Bressingham, however Bill decided if the engine was to be saved in time before the creditors claimed her, he would need action immediately and purchase her out right. 6223 and 6100 did not have overhauls at Bressingham, but where just retubed, Sutherland failing after a few years as you said due to firebox leakage issue that required substantial repair, but I have been told she was not in great mechanical condition when she was running. What killed off large mainline steam locos running at Bressingham was the changes to boiler inspections rules. Prior to 1978 boiler inspectors were happy for a simple retube and test in frames. After this time they wanted the boiler out of the frames and all lagging and tubes removed, and Alan was not willing to spend money on someone else's loco (these days Bressingham don't even like spending money on what few locos and traction engines it hasn't sold off since Alan died)
watched a few of your documentaries now, you have gained yourself a new subscriber.
forgot to add in my other comment, that's 2 of the former LMS mainline locos that Butlins saved you've made programmes on, I'm hoping you also cover Princess Margret Rose and Royal Scot.
I just want to point out, when you started the preserved engine chapter, you mistaked Royal Scot for a Pacific, when the class are 4-6-0s
I thinks it’s a clumsy edit, rather than a mistake. As he said Butlin purchased 3 Pacific’s. He then lists all three, but with Royal Scot in the middle.
It’s a really good video, and enjoyed it. But it is pronounced ‘Holly Head’ not ‘Holy Head’.