Alde v Truma - Wet Central Heating v's Blown Air. The Great Debate!

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  • @robbanjohansson9078
    @robbanjohansson9078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Come to nothern Sweden in winter. Alde with floor heating is the only one that works. Right now we got -26c and im in my underwear in a Polar carawan from 2006.

  • @britsd6397
    @britsd6397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Keith & Michelle, great video, but for me having had both, the Alde wet system is so much better and would never go back. Heat up times are comparable and no cold spots. My 10 year old Lunar had the vents you could control and I was always adjusting depending where I wanted the heat so it was always a compromise which the Alde you dont have to. 6 Years with blown air and 6 months with Alde and I know Alde I would chose every time.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Steve, it really is a debatable issue isn’t it. We prefer the blown air 😀 Individual preference really. Thanks again for watching, Keith & Michele

  • @petervoros840
    @petervoros840 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this opinion, puts my mind at rest having bought a blown air fitted caravan that I take delivery of next month.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Peter, Congratulations on your new caravan 🎉 Delighted you found our video helpful, wishing you many happy travels & adventures, best wishes, Keith & Michele.

  • @pamblomfield6553
    @pamblomfield6553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for all you videos. We have just bought a swift and found your advice so valuable.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Pam, Thank you for your kind words & huge congratulations on your new caravan 🎉 Wishing you many happy travels & adventures in the future, sending all our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @korsu1234
    @korsu1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx 4 video😊we have alde,with floor heat.we camp in cold season -23 to -35c so floor heating system is must😊
    Tho thru take a bit longer to warm up.but we Can put the heat on with ouer phone.😊

  • @Bunce1949
    @Bunce1949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting debate guys, thanks. We have a two berth end washroom Lunar Lexon with blown warm air via the Truma Ultraheat fire fitted beneath the wardrobe, a fairly classic layout found on many vans. I totally agree with your comments regarding the washroom being much cooler, and we plan to insulate our pipes, as they run under the van to the washroom like yours. We already have vents with flaps on, so shut the ones in the lounge area, which pumps more air to the washroom. What I did discover though, was if I open the wardrobe door, and look at the back of the fire where the fan is fitted, there is a lever that can be moved from left to right. Its an internal flap, that diverts the air from the fan to either the lounge area or the bathroom area. We moved it to give most of the air/heat to the bathroom, as we don't need blown heat in the lounge with the fire on. Works great for us, now all we need to do is crawl under the van and insulate the pipe!

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for watching David, Delighted you enjoyed our video. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele.

    • @straydoggio
      @straydoggio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good info David; thanks.

  • @onthemove301
    @onthemove301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Had both in motorhomes and caravan. Prefer Alde in caravan because Truma (to me, your mileage may vary) can get stuffy after a couple of hours in the evening, especially in the shoulder seasons. However in motorhomes the Alde system was too weak in the area adjacent to cold metal cab, which may explain why Alde have now developed fan assistance for use at front of some motorhomes. Alde radiators in bathroom keep towels dry, and the warm Alde fluid reservoir in our wardrobe keeps clothes aired.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi On The Move, Many thanks for sharing your experience, very interesting to read. Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @chrismalloy7688
    @chrismalloy7688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had a Coachman Laser with blown air which, I was living in year round, whilst working in Aberdeen. During the winter months it was purgatory trying to keep that van warm. Swapped it for a Vanmaster with central heating + underfloor heating. There is absolutely no comparison.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi. Chris, Underfloor heating sounds great 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 We still prefer our Truma heating though 😀 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.

  • @gallowaygetaways5326
    @gallowaygetaways5326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We love our blown air too. As you say it heats up so quickly on site, and can cool down quickly also if need be. We love it. Our caravan actually came with the adjustable vent covers you show. They are great...should be standard really. Glad you found the fix and that it makes a difference. Nice video guys :)

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for watching and your kind comments. Keith & Michele

  • @colinrimmer789
    @colinrimmer789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Guys we have a Swift Charisma 620 it’s twin axle and has blown air heating. At home we tend to prefer cooler rooms so when in the van we use the heating on convection alone and have a small oil heater to take the chill off the end washroom. We are always on hook up and find using the heating this way is okay even in October and February.

    • @colinrimmer789
      @colinrimmer789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ps really like your Vogue 👍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Colin, Thanks for sharing that with everyone 👍🏻 Thanks for watching 😀 Keith & Michele

  • @growlers90
    @growlers90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are yet to experience Alde heating but both of our vans have had Truma and never had any issues regarding heat distribution. First Van was end shower/toilet and dressing/ wardrobe layout with butterfly vent to dressing area and our latest Van is fixed bed and adjoining toilet/shower with heating directly into shower. It gets SO hot in shower we use it as a wet room to dry our towels and coats/boots after a day in the British weather !

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great to hear your experience Growlers90 👍🏻 Thanks for sharing. Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @markgrocott9303
    @markgrocott9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just come accross your channel...great video. With ours there seemed a lot of excess pipe especially to the washroom so i made the pipe straighter. Made the washroom toastie. Also i just use the gas when starting the heating once on site then switch the gas off after about 15 minutes and go to electric...works a treat.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your experience Mark 👍🏻 Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele.

  • @joaosl1980
    @joaosl1980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, this info is very important. I am looking for a used caravan and I wanted to understand the difference between Truma and Alde. Thank you very much for this Video.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Joao, Many thanks for watching, delighted you found our video helpful. Best wishes, stay safe, Keith & Michele.

  • @PoshcatsCamping
    @PoshcatsCamping 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great discussion guys. We have experienced both and ALDE is for us. The wet system in a motorhome is so much better and we are able to have the ALDE heating running whilst driving to preheat the entire system before arriving on site. We also use propane and hookup together if the system needs a quick startup. This can reduce the time taken for it to warm through the van. Having said that, both systems work well and we found there is very little difference in running costs. 👍🏻😄 Trev

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching Trev. That is another debate...motorhome or caravan. One of the many plus's with a motorhome is that you can arrive on site and the motorhome is already warm from the journey! Cheers Keith & Michele

  • @donbrown8001
    @donbrown8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We've had caravans and motorhomes for over 25 years but never had Alde. We've just ordered a brand new Elddis 275 which has it fitted so we will be interested in doing the comparison. What I would say is a game changer is the Truma inet system which I've installed in our last two motorhomes and thankfully have removed it ready to fit in the new one as it's compatible with Truma blown or Alde wet.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for sharing your experience Don, sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @BobEarnshawMoHo
    @BobEarnshawMoHo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, one thing I would add, I thought the Truma system takes more of the underseat and bed space. The Truma unit we had on the Bailey was bigger than our Alde compact and the air hoses take up more space than pipes and radiators in the Alde system.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have to agree Bob, the pipes do take up more space. Thanks for taking the time watching. Keith & Michele

  • @hairywol
    @hairywol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys, Just found this and it's a breath of fresh air. I have never seen why people want to spend more on a system that takes ages to heat the caravan, then ages to alter the temperature, and, crucially, weighs more because of the liquid and radiators.
    Our method is to blast air at full fan to warm the 'van through, then use the fan on slow, which maintains heat and is almost inaudible. It also means that when we turn the heat off (because we're in the awning with a fan heater and we don't want to trip anything), it's easy to bring the 'van back up to temperature when we move indoors.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Steve, Many thanks for watching, We’ve actually changed caravan again since this video was recorded, hope we don’t disappoint you.......it’s got Alde! TBH we don’t mind which system we have, they both have their pros & cons. We fell in love with the design of our current caravan & it was Alde as opposed to Truma, didn’t really make a difference for us, we just loved the caravan. Best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @andrewmoorey6103
    @andrewmoorey6103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see you guys again. We’ve had both sorts, pros and cons with each but I think they both do the job..as you say an advantage of blown air is you can circulate cool air in summer. Looking forward to our first trip of 2021 to Henley on Thames for new year.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Andrew, Same for us, we’ve had both & each has its advantages & disadvantages. Wishing you a safe & happy trip for the New Year, best wishes, Keith & Michele.

    • @sparkmeister4706
      @sparkmeister4706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Problem with the summer air recirculation is it stops the hot water from working and cools it down

  • @davidcurtis2982
    @davidcurtis2982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this, looking for a newer van and seen one with Alde which I thought was the mutts n*ts. However I'd heard some scare stories of breakdowns plus other issues which you folks have reiterated. Defo stick with Truma. Big thanks

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi David, delighted you found our video useful. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele

  • @busterboy7505
    @busterboy7505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your video Keith and Michele, so I am presuming that with the wet type heating you can’t isolate any of the radiators like you can do at home?, 👍👍.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Buster Boy, You are correct, sadly none of the outlets can be isolated. Many thanks for watching, sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @hildurmariaherbertsdottir8333
    @hildurmariaherbertsdottir8333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thanks for compairing Truma/Alde. I live in Iceland, we do not have much problem with high temperatures here and seldom need vent, rather me would need quick heating asap!
    Would that change your opinion? Thanks, Hilda

  • @caravanningwithbrenandjule7447
    @caravanningwithbrenandjule7447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have the blown heating but we have got through a few fan motors over the years as we use it more than someone who travels as were in it most days and it’s always on the majority of the time

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for sharing your experience Bren & Jules, always good to other people’s experiences 👍🏻 Sending best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @T101cyberdynesystems
    @T101cyberdynesystems 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had blown air twice now, and all my vent holes can all be open or closed from the factory, I do exactly the same and close the front two a little or a lot. You can also increase the fan strength from eco to high. I like the idea of lagging the external run.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea lagging the pipes that run under the caravan. Easy fix and it works. Many thanks for watching Gareth. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele

  • @nickjennings8317
    @nickjennings8317 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool,. Never really thought about that. Just went with what the caravan came with. My wife and are temperature incomparable too. Same at home too. On balance I am not too bothered but the logical side of me would go for the simplest way. If I don’t need a pump &. liquid I would have air & a pump. I do like the pumping cold air idea too. The insulation idea 👍. Thank you for opening my eye. Keep the. coming👍 , many thanks , Nick & Maureen.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for watching Nick & Maureen, sending best wishes to you both, Keith & Michele.

  • @cambsfarmer
    @cambsfarmer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you, I actually prefer the Truma blown air system, I have had it in both my vans and truma is absolutely fine

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Adam, We’ve had both of these systems & we honestly like both. They each have their individual benefits & niggles 😀 Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele.

  • @lostweekendscaravan
    @lostweekendscaravan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Keith & Michele. The vents are a good idea but sadly you can't leave them fully closed all the time. The best thing to do is close the one nearest to the boiler for 20 minutes until the bathroom pipe warms up
    and then open half way. Thanks for the mention. The insulation does work we where away last week and noticed a 40 percent difference. Best £20 I've spent. Great topic. Thanks Phil.
    😀👍😀👍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers Phil. When they are closed you still get about 20% coming through. Glad to hear the insulation worked, that's my next job.😭🙄

    • @sparkmeister4706
      @sparkmeister4706 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@keithandmicheleyou can get restriction plugs which I fitted on my last and it worked a treat.

  • @NPJohn100
    @NPJohn100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting - thanks for the information.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Delighted you found our video useful NP John100. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele

  • @stevep.8706
    @stevep.8706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Alde wet system in my caravan, my parents had blown air in their narrow boat. Both work well. The problem I initially experienced in my caravan is with the location of the heating temperature sensors. I had three choices of sensor; panel, bed area and lounge in the Alde control panel. The problem there being, initially unbeknown to me, is that there actually wasn't a sensor in the bed area. So, when selected the heating never cut off and we roasted. The panel thermostat is affected by the heat of the TV in my caravan layout, resulting in the heating cutting off too soon. This left the lounge thermostat, which is located in a little nook in the main control panel suround above the main door which is a stupid place to put it. After relocating this sensor so it's now in the lounge area, I get a far more constant and comfortable heating. One trick I found during cold spells was to get the heating on gas to get the van warmed up quickly and when it was up to temp switch to electricity. Steve :)

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Steve, In our previous caravan, which had the Alde system, we never felt the need to delve deeper into the control panel to adjust sensor settings. It’s a great tip for everyone to know should they need to modify the heat settings. On our current Truma blown air system, we always set it to mix 2 (electric & gas) on arriving on site. After about an hour we switch to electric only. We absolutely love the blown air as it seems more controllable. Thanks for watching & your comments 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

    • @marklittler784
      @marklittler784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No doubt very enlightening info.

  • @jamesfoote8916
    @jamesfoote8916 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and just shows how we are all different.
    30 years of caravanning and our Hymer caravan is the first ALDE and wow so fast so warm amazing.
    I have chatted to people and found they are using as a blown air no time with ours we set the temp for day and night and the water day and night just like home. When we leave the caravan we can just turn it off or not and it has been working very well. Takes a few goes be holiday you may stay in bed longer or may be just weekend so you set those time very simple.
    I am happy you love your blown air because that is what matters for you.
    As a side note on my old Hymer Caravan at the back of the heater there is a direction peace so we just made that so the blown air when more towards the back
    James

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching James, Yes, Alde is definitely our preference as well 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

  • @markjakeway2035
    @markjakeway2035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, was wondering about this for for my next van.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mark, We love the blown air, it’s just so easy to control. Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

  • @garysouthwood6549
    @garysouthwood6549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vlog Guys. Going to order some today.😄

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Gary, We have found that closing just one vent in the lounge is sufficient to moderate the air flow to the end washroom. It’s brilliant! No more damp towels 😀 Thanks for watching 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

  • @bobmckayfreedom
    @bobmckayfreedom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love our Truma heating ...we find it easy to control heating quickly.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have to agree with you on that Bob. Thanks Keith & Michele

  • @2019freddie
    @2019freddie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys I found this video very interesting. My wife and I have had the same thoughts as you did, we have been told the Alde is much better so this has opened up more options now in looking for a new van with warm air heating. Many thanks for a great video.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi 2019freddie, Delighted you both found this video useful 👍🏻 We absolutely love the Truma blown air system. Good luck in your search, very exciting for you 🎉 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.

    • @arthurgaskell798
      @arthurgaskell798 ปีที่แล้ว

      We think Alde is the best thing since sliced bread and would never buy another caravan without it. Just ask yourself this question - Would you buy a house with blown air heating?

  • @markwyatt5977
    @markwyatt5977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We’ve got truma blow heating in our swift. Can I use it without filling the water tank up?

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mark. Absolutely you can use it for heating just ensure that the hot water is Off. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele

  • @maureenmcgrath4664
    @maureenmcgrath4664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great tip thankyou for sharing it.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Maureen 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

  • @philipelliott872
    @philipelliott872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there folks,
    Where can I find your piece on personal air coolers?
    Thanks in anticipation.
    Phil

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Phil, The video you mention is called “What Has Keith Brought!!!”. A fool & his money 😆 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @grahamsellers9295
    @grahamsellers9295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video Guys, we've got a 2019 dealer special and that's the vents that are fitted now, I saw the video from Lost weekends and insulated the external ducting,
    I can confirm shutting off front vents as well as the insulation, makes a massive difference, our van has the rear bedroom with middle bathroom.
    Keep up the good work:-)

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Graham. We close the front two vents and the difference in the end washroom is incredible. We now can dry towels within a few hours which we couldn't achieve with the wet central heating system. Thanks for watching. Keith & Michele

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  • @Perthshire
    @Perthshire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there space in the washroom for a small heated towel rail? That would be a good option for some, too, perhaps.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi EMC, A lot of new caravans that have Alde central heating have a heated towel rail in the wash room 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, best wishes, Keith & Michele.

    • @Perthshire
      @Perthshire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele Hello, thanks for the reply! Our new Bailey has that system, but our previous Elddis only had a blown air outlet in the washroom. We fitted a small electric towel rail and that certainly helped to keep the chill away during the colder seasons.

  • @andrewcrawford2117
    @andrewcrawford2117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video. Found your channel via the 10 quarantine questions. I’ve always had blow air heating and have been wondering about the pros and cons of both. When I isolate my small washroom it becomes so warm I use it for drying my wet items of clothing in no time. Stay safe!

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Andrew, Delighted you’ve found our channel, hope you find our videos useful 👍🏻 Many thanks for sharing your experience. Stay safe, best wishes, Keith & Michele.

  • @thomaswatt1658
    @thomaswatt1658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi keith and michelle.we have the blowair heating and have no issues with it.i have insulated the pipes externally and we already had those vents.i will be interested to see how they would work as cooling vents,as if it is too warm in the van i wouldnt imagine they would blow as the thermostat will keep the heating off.if you find it works could you show us that.cheers

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Thomas, We recently used the venting system on a warm day & we were pleased with the result. You do need to turn the heating & hot water off for the system to work, when you select the vent operation in the fan mode it does take a good ten minutes to cool down. We must stress it’s not in anyway air conditioning but is a good way to circulate cooler air. Hope this helps & thanks for watching, Keith & Michele

    • @thomaswatt1658
      @thomaswatt1658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele thanks will need to try it,if we ever get hot weather up here lol.when we bought our van nobody had used that or even mentioned it as a cooler.thanks again for your reply

  • @paulpringle8263
    @paulpringle8263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks both a good to the point review. Thanks for the information

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Paul, we hope it proves helpful to those who are undecided about which system to get 👍🏻 Keith & Michele

  • @andrewputman4299
    @andrewputman4299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your using the new vent cover as a balancing valve. Great idea

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks Andrew, delighted you enjoyed our video 👍🏻 Best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @danuk2005
    @danuk2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the concern came from the whale under floor mounted blown heating. I used to have a lunar and when the heating was on it sounded like a jet engine. Especially on gas as running on that the heating was either on full blast or off. No quite mode unlike the new truma combi

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Dan. Have to agree that the newer blown air systems are much quieter now. Thanks for watching & your continued support. Keith & Michele 👍

  • @DJMarshy
    @DJMarshy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you need water for the truma to work or can you run while caravan is drained down

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi DJ Marshy, Assuming you are referring to the blown air heating, you do not need water connected. You just need the gas or electric connected for the element to heat up which then blows air through the caravan. Please ensure your water pump is switched off if water isn’t connected. Hope this helps, Keith & Michele.

    • @DJMarshy
      @DJMarshy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carefree Caravanning thank you great help

  • @brianlockyer4389
    @brianlockyer4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always had blown air and was dreading wet which we had to have in our new van. I was right to worry, its noisy slow to warm, hard to control and makes all the wood around the beds creak and crack.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear you’re not happy with the wet system Brian, we’ve actually had both & don’t really mind either. Sending best wishes, Keith & Michele.

    • @brianlockyer4389
      @brianlockyer4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@keithandmichele i forgot to add maintenance, anti freeze cost £250 to change i think its a big con! thats it i feel better now!

  • @kennuff2
    @kennuff2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou, great vid. We have a swift motorhome with the Aldi system. It is slow to heat up and very expensive to run. We are changing the van to an Autotrail which has the blown air and the gas fire. In you report you only talk about the blown air, can you just use the gas fire on it's own and if so is it effective. Regards Ken

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ken, We haven’t got a fire in our caravan so unfortunately we can’t help with your question. We can tell you the blown air system is superb though 👍🏻 Hopefully someone else will comment on here & answer your query. Many thanks for watching, Keith & Michele.

    • @kennuff2
      @kennuff2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele ok Thankyou for your quick reply. Kind Regards Ken

    • @johnbrandon1658
      @johnbrandon1658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have blown air but rarely use it. Just the fire on fills the van with warm air as it’s not that big a space. By fire - I mean the heater. Not been out in the depths of winter though lol.

  • @straydoggio
    @straydoggio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. Thanks.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Delighted you enjoyed our video Straydoggio, thanks for watching, best wishes, Keith & Michele.

  • @Venomator.
    @Venomator. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another interesting and informative show guys, thank you! A different perspective indeed and some useful tips in there, which we will consider when and if we do enjoy this new adventure and think of upgrading next year, possibly, maybe! Thanks again, Rog... 👍🏻 🐍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Rog, As always many thanks for your comments & your support 😀 We love the blown air system & wouldn’t go back to wet central heating. It is a personal choice though. Keith & Michele

  • @Robutube1
    @Robutube1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michelle and Keith - do you caravan in the winter at all? I ask because I'm interested in knowing how to stay warm in more challenging weather - especially if not on a fully serviced site. Thanks!

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Rob, Yes we do caravan over winter & having experienced both types of heating systems available, we can honestly say the caravan is very warm & toasty, even in icy conditions. With regards to the awning, we tend to use a fan heater, although you must be aware of the amps it draws. Hope this helps, Keith & Michele.

  • @marilynmercer5588
    @marilynmercer5588 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always take a small electric fan heater if it's hot we turn fan to cold air.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Marilyn, Great tip 👍🏻 thanks for sharing, Keith & Michele

  • @gregkingston4913
    @gregkingston4913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive just bought a Fiat Ducato with the True a system but a bit confused with the heating. Does the system have two heaters, one for the water and one for the central heating? Or does it need to be heating the water to let out warm air through the vents? thanks

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Greg, Assuming your Truma system is the same as ours, you do not need to have both systems on for one of them to work, they work independently of each other. Hope this helps, Keith & Michele.

    • @gregkingston4913
      @gregkingston4913 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keithandmichele Thanks Mine is the Truma CP plus heating unit. Im still trying to work out how to turn the water heater on without the air-conditioning heating at the same time? thanks

  • @justusontour8150
    @justusontour8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Keith & Michele Great video . I know you changed your van recently and now have the Aldi system . Is your opinion still the same Aldi vs Truma ? We are up grading our motorhome and are considering going from Truma 4 combi to the Aldi hence the question guys. Great videos, great content,Thank you for all the practical advice you give 👍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Guys, Having had both we can say in our experience, the Aldi system is good/better for distributing heat throughout the entire caravan including our rear washroom, the Truma system struggled a little to reach the rear unless we closed the front vents for a short period. Also, the Aldi system takes longer to heat up & cool down whereas the Truma is instant in both cases. To be honest, both have their pros & cons, we don’t mind either, but if pushed for a definitive choice, Keith would probably choose Aldi, Michele would choose Truma. It really is a personal choice. Good luck with the new motorhome, hope this helps with your decision, sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

    • @justusontour8150
      @justusontour8150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele Thank you so much for your advice. Our current MH has the Truma and yes we do find we get cold spots.Thank you once again . Steve & Anna Marie.

  • @MrToneski1
    @MrToneski1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Keith and Michele, we have the standard Sprite Major 4SB. I have also insulated the external duct and changed the two front vents to the butterfly type. Running the heating on gas makes the bathroom even warmer especially in the winter months. We're really enjoying your blogs, keep em coming. Happy caravanning, Tony and Lynne

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Tony & Lynne, Thanks for watching & commenting 👍🏻 We haven’t yet insulated the external duct, just waiting for the right weather. It’s so nice to finally dry towels in the bathroom 😀 We love the blown air! Keith & Michele

  • @Bernie_Outdoors
    @Bernie_Outdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Keith and Michele, I fitted one of those vents as I have 4 in total in the van. My Truma manual says that you should only block off 1 out of 4 max. Do you think it OK to close 2 of them? I suppose some air still comes out, so it's not actually closing it off. Nice video

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching Bernie. These vents do let out around 20% when closed, so in our opinion closing two should be ok for a limited time, However to be on the safe side we wouldn't advise leaving more thank one closed for hours on end. Cheers Keith & Michele

    • @thelawsonsmakingmemories8832
      @thelawsonsmakingmemories8832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele hi guys great video i also tried this but it through up an overheating issue with the boiler. This maybe because i have a slightly older caravan 2016 i'm not sure. However i did make an alteration by redirecting one of the pipes to double the air to the back and what a difference it made. just thought i would let you know encase you here of anyone else having this problem. Stay safe Tom

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for the information Tom 👍🏻 Hopefully others will find this useful. Stay safe, Keith & Michele.

  • @kevmoors77
    @kevmoors77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what sort of difference is the leisure battery drain between each system.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi K77, not sure on this one, hopefully someone else will join in on this comment. Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @lensmanonline
    @lensmanonline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We don't tend to use our caravan during the colder months, but we still use the blown air heating. Did know there were replacement vents available deffo put them on our shopping list, Karen's nodding her head in agreement with ladies of a certain age, they get called tropical moments in our house.
    Best wishes
    Jon and Karen

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😆😀😆 Thanks Jon & Karen, that’s actually a very nice way of describing “the heat” 😀 Think I’ll adopt that phrase 😆 Thanks, as always, for watching. Michele & Keith x

  • @norwegianzound
    @norwegianzound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kennedy vs Nixon presidential debates don't compare to this. Thanks for having the bravery to take this on.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆😂😆 Many thanks for watching Jack F….absolutely loving your comment 🤗 Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @LatitudeAdventures
    @LatitudeAdventures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some great points made. 😄

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks very much for watching, Keith & Michele

  • @jcoleburt
    @jcoleburt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HI all we have had blown air for 18 years now have wet system and would not go back to blown air, hot air takes just as long as wet.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi @jcoleburt Many thanks for sharing your experience ❤️ Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele xxx

  • @user-tp3oj4xy9o
    @user-tp3oj4xy9o 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi my 2005 Bailey pageant as these vents, i thought they were
    standard

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Paul, Swift used to fit these vents as standard but in the latest models they don’t. Probably a cost saving exercise 🤔 Thanks for watching, Keith & Michele

  • @daveslife9486
    @daveslife9486 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Must admit I prefer the blown air system as well 👍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for watching Dave, sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @stevethornton7989
    @stevethornton7989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video 👍🏻 we also have gone from the wet heating to the blown air from Truma and find it very easy to use we also fitted the full Truma Inet system with gas level and that is also good as you can control all the heating and water from your phone, you said that you can use this on a vent setting can you tell me how to set it to the vent mode as I can't seem to find it on ours👍🏻

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Steve, To set the Truma system onto vent, firstly you need to select the central heating & turn to off. Then select the hot water & select to off. Then scroll along to the fan symbol & rotate to vent which will appear. Press the centre button to select the vent & rotate clockwise for the fan speed between 1 & 10. Then press the centre rotating knob to accept the settings. Please note, the system will start to blow air but if the hot water has been on, the circulating air will initially be warm but after 10-15 minutes you will get cooler air. A downside we have to using the vent on this system is that it totally cools down any hot water you have in the tank so it’s really best to use this system last thing at night when you’ve finished with the hot water. It does a great job of cooling down the caravan in our experience 👍🏻 Hope this helps, Keith & Michele.

    • @stevethornton7989
      @stevethornton7989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@keithandmichele thanks for getting back and letting me know how to do this as it doesn't cover it in the book or at least I can't find it 🤣 I'll give it a go next weekend when we are away as it's always nice to try new things out for when you do actually need to use them, it's good to know about the the hot water and how it cools it down at the same time. Great videos you's do and they don't repeat stuff others have vlogged on keep it up👍🏻

  • @roysole3294
    @roysole3294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You see I don't have any issue my wife gets the house heating the same has the surface of the sun then when she gets to hot she opens the conservatory doors let's all the heat out same thing in the motorhome hot as the sun then opens the door because she is to hot bless her little cotton socks

  • @jasonpope574
    @jasonpope574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason the caravans don't have restricting airflow fitted to caravan air system is to allow airflow as not doing so will damage the motor also having heat traveling back to the boiler and damaging the pipe work as this becomes brittle. There should be at least one vent left permanently open to stop this happening.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many thanks for sharing that information Jason, very helpful 👍🏻 Thanks for watching, stay safe, Keith & Michele.

    • @mercedes_and_more
      @mercedes_and_more 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Here in Germany air flow vents are standard and i have never seen a caravan without then (Alde excepted!).
      We had the same debate with our current Hobby Premium as our old van was cold at one end (we used a portable fan heater if needed). In our current van the heater is in the middle so heating is even as the layout is even. Hearing your comments about time delay/lag then i and half were stuck with gas fire and blown air. It's also nice that when traveling and you stop for lunch you can whack on the fire! Also in the summer the blown air on low compliments the air con.

  • @kevandrews4699
    @kevandrews4699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Keith and Michele all ways nice to see you guys again I agree with u think blown air is more control able than the Alde wet heating do u know if the Alde wet heating puts more pay load on van than blown air heating nice to see u guys again .kev

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Kev, thanks for watching & your comments. Yes, I believe it does. Swift state that the Alde wet central heating adds an additional 20kg to the challengers for example. Cheers Keith & Michele

  • @Knappist
    @Knappist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have the Aldi heating system in our van, waist of time it only works on gas ! Can’t get a thing out of it on electric, really disappointed just wish we had blown air

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear your bad experience of the Alde system Knappster. We’ve had both & each has its own pros & cons. Sending our best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.

  • @philashmorecarpfishing455
    @philashmorecarpfishing455 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys is the blown air noisy

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Phil, We absolutely love, love, love the blown air system! Wouldn’t go back to wet central heating. When set on eco or low fan speed, you can hardly hear it. In winter months we leave it on all night & you don’t notice it. In warm weather you can use it cool/vent the caravan...another bonus 😀 It also heats up within a few minutes which is superb. Of course, if the fan speed is set high, it’s will be more noticeable, like any fan. Our caravan is a 2018 model, so older models may vary & be noisier. Hope this helps 👍🏻 Keith & Michele.

  • @TheCaravanNut
    @TheCaravanNut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting vlog Keith & Michele, our last van was blown heating but it was a 2006 van with a fire, I would guess that that wasn’t as efficient as the new Truma heating system. As you know we now have Alde heating and we love it, not sure I would change back. We don’t find it takes too long to heat up as we run it on gas first then hook up when it’s warm. I’m sure this is a debate that will be discussed until the cows come home 😂 Cheers Martin 👍

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Martin. Yep think this debate will continue longer than Brexit !!! Cheers Keith & Michele

  • @richardbinnie
    @richardbinnie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No great debate for me. Alde heating every time giving a fantastic all round even heat. Each to their own though. 😀

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many thanks for watching Richard, Absolutely agree, it’s a personal preference. Best wishes to you, stay safe, Keith & Michele.

  • @robwestley7370
    @robwestley7370 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sandra Westley there’s no question in my mind which is best Alde, once you’ve had it you would not go back to blown air, we could never get our van warm enough even on cool days never mind cold days. Our Son has blown air, and he used our van last year, he said it was just fantastic a complete game changer. Our friends have just changed there van and it’s got the Alde system, there verdict was, if we had known how good it was we would have changed our van years ago. So don’t listen to all the blow air ballony there’s no comparison.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your experience Rob & Sandra, it’s always great to hear other people’s views. Sending our best wishes, Keith & Michele.

  • @robertcrouch6429
    @robertcrouch6429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truma, it is much more controllable, easier and quicker to operate and warm 'van.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep we agree Robert. Thanks for watching. Keith & Michele

  • @johnperry6293
    @johnperry6293 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have cheating on when it is cold. you say it takes half an hour to cool down. Just open a door or window.

    • @keithandmichele
      @keithandmichele  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the advice John 😀 Best wishes to you, Keith & Michele.