In the short story “The Final Problem” Sherlock explains to Watson that Moriarty had been a Professor but that he lost that position after a scandal that probably was criminal in nature. I’m glad we get to see him as a Professor as well, because in this version Moriarty shows by his air of respectability that he is infinitely more dangerous.
The whole point is that for Moriarty it is just a fancy title, which he uses to hide behind as a cover for his true nature. Sherlock notices this particularly when he see a "domestic horticulture" book next to the chalk followed by a completely dead and neglected potted plant.
@@brianbommarito3376 Agreed. For all of Eric Porter's wonderful portrayal of Moriarty in the 80s series, my only complaint about it was that he wasn't subtle about it. His expressions, his tone of voice. His posture & movements, his overall conduct. You could spot him from a mile away. It was totally obvious that he was a nefarious person, with nefarious intentions. Like a Lion walking towards it's prey. Dead sure of itself. In this movie, it is _nowhere_ *near* that obvious. Jared was infinitely more subtle & lowkey about it. Increasingly quiet in his voice, and and an ever-so-slight drop in his expressions. Like a tiger crouching in the grass. Tensing up, should it need to strike. Plus his title "Professor" now holds a purpose. So much better imo.
I always found it kinda neat how Moriarity even had his own Watson with similar experience in war. It's just that both of them were twisted reflections of Holmes and Watson.
The Doctor Watson was also a healer in the Army, while Colonel Moran was a killer. If they had shown a Sherlock Holmes 1.5 I'd expect Moriarty to be hiring Moran in response to seeing Holmes being aided by Watson. 1.5 would have also shown Sherlock initially seeing multiple smaller criminal networks, and towards the end realizing that Professor Moriarty is linked to and controlling all of them
Jared Harris played Moriarty as we would expect Moriarty to be. Genius intellect, rich, charismatic, dangerous and very calm. Best Moriarty in show-world.
@BullseyeBullsclaw Trouble is a lot of the time you cant tell from reviews. Mindhunter for instance is an excellent story. But the female psychologist is so sjw it almost makes the thing unwatchable. Or the latest season of Ozark. For me the most annoying part isnt the overt insults but rather the subtle psychological messages of hatred. They are not outright said.. Oh no. They are implied through character interactions ruining the stories for me. Because I know it is intentional. It happens too often to be random. Films before 16 dont have such things. Even when I saw them occasionally I wasnt insulted because I could tell it was accidental. But now.... Jesus. Herr Goebbels would be very impressed with Hollywood's skill in propaganda.
@@evanabbott2737The pc block enjoys immense power in the filmmaking community and their influence is only growing. Especially after the left secured full power in the american congress. Up until now men like Richie have had enough clout to ignore them but for how much longer? The pc coalition will not be satisfied until they control all aspects of mainstream media and culture. Recently the Oscar committee decided no film could get an Oscar unless it satisfied certain diversity quotas. What does that tell you? Perhaps it is time for a schism in Hollywood.
4:00 “The laws of celestial mechanics dictate that when two objects collide…..there is always damage in a collateral nature” I love that line, so many interpretations, and all of them apply to these two and their relationships.
Funny how if Moriarty hadn't invited Holmes into his office like this, Holmes wouldn't have been able to decode his journal. Despite all the respect he says he has for Holmes, it's clear he 100% believes that Holmes is beneath him, rather than an intellectual equal. His inability to recognize talent in others and underestimate anyone who isn't him ends up being his downfall
I think he invited holmes for that purpose. He hoped holmes would connect the dots from his observations. He nor Sherlock held no certainty that either would end up on top. It really should have been a draw. Considering sherlocks injuries it is unlikely he would have survived that fall, but audiences recoil at sad endings.
This Moriarty is intelegently creepy and cunning, like the way he threats Sherlock while playing along with Sherlock's game is scary. He outsmarts Sherlock, a brilliant villain
For this reason, in my mind, he is the best villain ever put onto the film screen. As well, Jared Harris' perfect performance makes this the best movie ever made in my opinion.
All the while Sherlock tries to get under his skin, his subtle face twitch just unnervingly show his savage side to the gentleman mask that he's wearing. It just adds the extra layer of how unhinged he really is underneath it all.
That's why it's kinda cheap of the script on how Sherlock defeated Moriarty. Why is he having the book he uses for code on his secret notes lying around when he invited Sherlock? The Moriarty the movie portraits wouldn't make this mistake.
Irene Adler's death was a very brutal way of pushing this story forward and clearly demonstrated Moriarity's "moral insanity", as Holmes put it, as well as the professor's genius and efficiency. It set up a perfect villain for Sherlock - one who was as cruel as he was intelligent and cunning.
They have to. In Moriarty's case they're in a public setting and he can't afford to act out of the ordinary, especially considering he's the "control the strings" type of guy. In Holme's case he doesn't have any proof to convince anyone of Moriarty's actions should he try to apprehend him and cause a ruckus. Anything he might try would only see him banned from the college and it'd be difficult to for him to approach him again. But I assure you they want to blow each other's brains out.
@@LuciusVulpes I 100% agree, Moriarty is in complete control during this scene. And he wants Holmes to witness the consequences of his actions by interfering with his plans. Plus just like he’s says, he has high respect for him, and it’s because of that reason and that reason alone, that Holmes is still alive.
I honestly admire the way they depicted Moriarty in this very movie. Especially as to his manner of speaking, in which we may observe the utmost respect towards Holmes and a formidable level of education (he is a professor after all, not to mention a criminal mastermind). Both just sell it.
This is my type of confrontation. There is no physical violence, but the intensifying stares of both these wonderful characters give the audience a confrontation that is enough but leaves you wanting more of it.
And even when it comes to physical confrontation, mental and psychological confrontations preceding it just serves to intensify the conflict, making the physical ever more sweet when it arrives.
I think Moriarty would have gone after Watson anyway because of his and Holmes' association, and psychopaths don't really follow average people's logic
Jared Harris was so menacing, well-mannered yet terrifying in this film, a really intense performance. I saw him in this film first and discovered his other work later, just marvellous. For a long time I didn't even know he was the son of Richard Harris.
can you please explain that part to me? i absolutely dont have any idea how that correlates to moriarty's loss. is it the throwing caution to the wind metaphor people discussed above in moriarty's pursuit to destroy holmes? or the wild haymakers moriarty threw to keep holmes back to the balcony in the video of their final showdown?
@@neilcuaresma5656 iirc the book was being used as moriaty's codebook and Holmes only knew because of how Moriaty obviously didn't read it for it's intended purpose
@@hellolastname9556 A book on Horticulture would be used to help maintain and grow plants, Moriaty obviously didn't use it for that since his flowers were dead
Important clues must be introduced early in the story and this one was the key. It looks like they made it a touch too obvious on purpose so that the audience could keep up. It's one thing to create brilliant characters, another to give the audience clever, not too obvious clues.
I am honestly not joking when I say that Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows is in my top ten films of all time. For me it isn't just an underrated Ritchie movie, it's a criminally underrated movie full stop. Seriously, watch it again and listen to that dialogue, chemistry, and visual panache. Frustrates me no end that he didn't or couldn't go for a 3rd a few years later.
The chess match at the end is mind blowing alone. While they sit at the game board, they are using their associates as if they are also pieces in the game. Watson is literally standing on what looks like a chess board. Holmes & Moriarty also sit, stand, fight on what looks like a chess board. Many layers. Intricately designed scene.
3:09 When they shake hands Sherlock looks uneasy because Moriarty says 'officially', a subtle way of saying he has been watching him. Afterward Sherlock fires back by studying his handwriting outloud, letting Moriarty know that he is investigating him too.
From the minute that Holmes walked into that room, Moriarty was taunting him with the Schubert piece playing give up your foolish trickery, this fish you cannot cheat! Holmes let him know immediately he knew what Moriarity was doing.
@National Socialism I've never seen anyone pick Jared over Andrew. Although I prefer Jared too. Andrew's version was more like the joker lol, I never imagined Moriarty that way, although Andrew was still brilliant
@National Socialism I don't think it did remove the camaraderie, what hurt the relationship for me was them making Watson the near equal to Holmes. Watson is the audiences proxy, there to be as astounded at how Holmes works things out as we are. When Watson no longer provides that then there is no longer as need for Watson. But you are right about Moriarty. It was a nice twist to combine the two people who were the equal to Holmes. Such a shame that Natalie Dormer wasn't available to appear in the show more often.
They both have to be smart and articulate. Neither possess either quality. It doesnt matter now that is in the past. I think we should make them do sword fights or something fun
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Are you being serious? Andrew Scott's Moriarty is pure OTT camp and slapstick. He's a terrible Moriarty and BBC Sherlock is an insult.
“If I were assured of the former eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter” - In their first meeting Homes gives away how he beats Moriarty. He doesn't try to beat him, he goes for mutual destruction. Sacrificing himself to take out Moriarty.
Such an excellent scene. The understated interaction between the two nemesis is perfect. The "former" and "latter" comment from Holmes is taken directly from Sir Aurthur Conan Doyles's Moriarty story.
I didn't realize that! I love the line because it shows a selfless side of Holmes, something we don't often talk about or see in adaptations. It's part of the framework for why he is a detective. Sure, he loves the intellectual exercise, but he also genuinely cares about helping others and making the world a little better. So it's cool to know that comes from the original.
Well its confirmed by the studios and rdj theyre in the process of making the third movie but with covid going on i doubt its gonna release the intended date. Was supposed to release this year, then postponed next year.
"If you attempt to bring destruction upon me, then i shall do the same to you." "If I were assured of the former eventuality, I'd glady accept the latter." And poetically, the film ends as they both fall to their own mutual demise. (I know sherlock lives)
@@slasher19necroslayer42 it would be one of few situations where I would accept a "surprise, I'm not dead!" plot twist without thinking it incredibly contrived.
BBC should take note. THIS is how you do a Moriarty, not an overtly camp psychopath with no other aim but to flirt with Sherlock. This version is supremely intelligent, sophisticated and dangerous. He is the perfect foil to Sherlock. What an amazing job by both actors. Jared Harris is phenomenal.
Giveb jared harris's other work like the Terror or chernobyll i wonder if they didnt ask him to be in it, he read the script, decided it wasnt worth his time,and decided to stick with working on the greatest tv shows of all time
Isn't it great re-watching the movie, and catching things you missed the first time? Holmes looking all over Moriarty's office, observing and remembering everything. It fits perfectly with the end of the movie.
I love that at 2:30, Holmes looks at the board and sees the coefficients of (x+1)^{n}. Of course, these are the binomial coefficients, and Moriarty was said to have written a treatise on the Binomial Theorem.
@Divergent Integral Yeah, me and a buddy back at Purdue used to laugh at fictional (and sometimes, nonfictional) characters and their association with mathematics. For example, in A Beautiful Mind, Russell Crowe makes an early comment about how most of his students will never understand what's written on the chalkboard behind him. Give it a looksie to see this "impossible" theory. ;-D
@@adrianjenkins5877 havent seen it, but i think many maths students just see maths in the form of numbers and letters glued together and have no understanding of what is actually happening, like with differentiation many people just think "apply formula and find answer" without understanding what the derivative actually tells you. i wouldn't be surprised if many people just "know" how to solve linear equations without understanding their application
@Divergent_Integral It's how he codes the agriculture book! Some seemingly irrelevant equation (1, 1+1 = 2, 2+1 = 3, 1+3+1 = 5, etc.) leads to specific letters in the book which turns out to be names under which boxes are held.
What I enjoy about this scene is Moriarty's demeanor: His paused way of speaking and his posture is as if whatever is happening around him, he always planned it beforehand.
This is one of the best interpretations of the Sherlock Holmes / Moriarty confrontation ever performed (Jeremy Brett's version was exactly canonical). RDJ's Sherlock Holmes is shocking to the senses but it works and is one of the most refreshingly creative depictions ever. Can't wait for Sherlock Holmes 3!!!
Fans always complain about these films dumbing down the Holmes stories but there's so much clever dialogue in this scene alone. The films aren't perfect, but they're a lot of fun and I really enjoy their versions of these iconic characters.
I like the way Holmes drives Moriarty mad with his analysis of handwriting just to make sure what the professor is capable of when he is being attacked.
And i like that Moriarty only responded when Holmes was about to call him insane. Moriarty is fine with any derogatory term you label him with, but he takes great offense when you question his mentality.
The graphology reference at 3:14 makes me chuckle because it is a complete pseudoscience and Sherlock proceeds to tell Moriarty exactly who and what he is after initially praising him. Reads him like a book. What a power move.
Sherlock was very playful up to the point when moriaty explains the death of who could have been the love of his life. This is the first time you see sherlock in pain, and you feel for him. The tone of sherlocks voice changes, and you get the feeling he is no longer messing around with moriaty, and he also realises that he can not allow this mad man to continue his behaviour as he is far too dangerous not only to himself but the country and the rest of the world. The chess scene is perfect as well
I know the Holmes-Adler relationship was controversial, but I think this scene shows one way the relationship is kinda consistent with canon. Watson says at some point in the original story that he thinks the idea of falling in love would be distressing to Holmes. At no point does he or Irene say they love the other. But when he realizes she's dead, there's this moment of, "Wait... maybe I did love her. But I can't do anything about it because now she's gone." And it does bring him distress because he didn't really let himself be in love until it was too late. Props to RDJ for the acting here. I feel it every time.
Nice touch at the end with Sherlock tossing aside his freshly autographed copy of Moriarty’s book and then taking Irene’s bloodied handkerchief, further indicating that he is now through with the professional courtesies with his adversary, as they’ve now just made things personal. This is also perfectly paired with the excellent foreshadowing to the endgame in the line, “If I were assured of the former eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter.”
Moriarty is better, smarter and more cunning than Sherlock, it’s what makes him such a great villain. He’s pushes Sherlock every time to his near break point and that’s him just toying with him.
cmon..we know what happened at the end, and how Sherlock stole his diary. Moriarty has only the advantage of power (as in resources) which Sherlock never showed any interest in.
@@oscarrzga4615 in the books he mostly appears indirectly and when they finally come against each other head on it lasts like a few pages. No where says he's "smarter and more cunning than sherlock"
the problem Moriarty made in this scene was assuming Irene was his queen piece when really it was Watson who was his queen piece all along. Sherlock really was ready to lose in order for Watson to win the game.
Jumping off the falls was an insane gamble that probably should and relistically would have killed him regardless of the rebreather. The reason he lived is luck and the possibility of a sequel. In the books he never fell at all, but watson assumed he did.
Eric Porter will always be the definitive Moriarty in my mind, but Jared Harris’ version is just as interesting and probably the most dangerous because of his air of respectability. When I first saw him, I was not impressed, but when he started talking, I knew that there was something sublimely evil about this incarnation of the character. Definitely a monster in every sense of the word. He even masks his threats in a facade of gentlemanly small talk.
“If I were assured of the former eventuality I would cheerfully accept the latter!” That’s a great quote, and it’s made better by it coming to fruition at the end. Holmes told him straight up what he was willing to do to win and Moriarty took it for granted. It would prove to be his undoing.
Such a powerful meeting. I've watched the movie once and I never really understood the subtext on the scene until I've rewatched this clip. I like how Moriarty immediately says "NO" to Sherlock's statement that Dr Watson is not to be involved in their fight, after he discover's sherlock's intention to subtly accuse him.
Just started watching these movies again. The sheer atmosphere and world building created for this story is mind-blowing. In the first one, they even make whistling a common behavior, which even more immerses me in the time period because, well, whistling was actually common back then.
This is my chilling movie. I don't get frustrated when I see it. Everything is so perfect. Famous actors/ actresses and their brilliant performances, nice plot, beautiful scenes from the 18th century
@@SaadKhan-rr2ww Moriarty said if Sherlock tried to destroy him and his plans he would destroy Sherlock in response. Sherlock then says if Moriarty's destruction was guaranteed(If I were assured of the former eventuality), he would gladly destroy himself in that pursuit (cheerfully accept the latter).
@@vforvendetta60 this was a brilliant foretelling of their final clash. Moriarty forgot about this when they engaged in the fight within their minds, that Holmes was prepared to sacrifice himself to ensure Moriarty met his end
Moriarty biggest weaknees was his ego, he tought he wasnt playing a game with Holmes until now and he was unaware that his right hand spoke too much... "His class finishes at four", while Holmes started playing way before him, giving him the advantage, thats why he said "Im afraid you will lose", he was already one step ahead of him
Such great foreshadowing in this scene, at multiple moments, none less so when Sherly says if he were sure of taking down Moriarty, he would accept his own fall too, and so it happened, literally. Just binge watched both the films yesterday, wondering why I had never heard any great things about it, for it was a veritable delight.
"If I were assured of the former (destruction of Moriarty) eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter (destruction of Holmes himself)." That line wins the Game of Foreshadows
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I like that this Moriarity we actually get to see him as a college professor, it isn’t just a fancy title it’s his real job
In the short story “The Final Problem” Sherlock explains to Watson that Moriarty had been a Professor but that he lost that position after a scandal that probably was criminal in nature. I’m glad we get to see him as a Professor as well, because in this version Moriarty shows by his air of respectability that he is infinitely more dangerous.
In elementary the guy who took over for Moriarty was a professor.
The moriarty the patriot he's a professor and u see him teaching his students
The whole point is that for Moriarty it is just a fancy title, which he uses to hide behind as a cover for his true nature. Sherlock notices this particularly when he see a "domestic horticulture" book next to the chalk followed by a completely dead and neglected potted plant.
@@brianbommarito3376 Agreed.
For all of Eric Porter's wonderful portrayal of Moriarty in the 80s series, my only complaint about it was that he wasn't subtle about it. His expressions, his tone of voice. His posture & movements, his overall conduct. You could spot him from a mile away. It was totally obvious that he was a nefarious person, with nefarious intentions. Like a Lion walking towards it's prey. Dead sure of itself.
In this movie, it is _nowhere_ *near* that obvious. Jared was infinitely more subtle & lowkey about it. Increasingly quiet in his voice, and and an ever-so-slight drop in his expressions. Like a tiger crouching in the grass. Tensing up, should it need to strike.
Plus his title "Professor" now holds a purpose.
So much better imo.
I always found it kinda neat how Moriarity even had his own Watson with similar experience in war. It's just that both of them were twisted reflections of Holmes and Watson.
Now that you mentioned it, wow, very astute observation
You are talking about the dishonourably discharged Marksman-Colonel?
He is better than Watson technically.
@@omniartist8297 combat wise, yes. But watson is also an army doctor
The Doctor Watson was also a healer in the Army, while Colonel Moran was a killer. If they had shown a Sherlock Holmes 1.5 I'd expect Moriarty to be hiring Moran in response to seeing Holmes being aided by Watson. 1.5 would have also shown Sherlock initially seeing multiple smaller criminal networks, and towards the end realizing that Professor Moriarty is linked to and controlling all of them
Jared Harris played Moriarty as we would expect Moriarty to be.
Genius intellect, rich, charismatic, dangerous and very calm. Best Moriarty in show-world.
He played a simialr role in Fringe series
Worst was in the british series
@@whateveausaid He was a unique take on the character for sure!
@@whateveausaid Andrew Scott was great!
@@MrPolicekarim he wasnt a unique take. He was a done-to-death, Joker type villain. Horrible butchering of the character.
jared harris is a criminally underrated artist
Indeed. Especially in Chernobyl its clearly obvious.
@@Jargolf86 and lane pryce in mad men
When I read sherlock holmes again he is the only one that comes to mind when reading about Moriarty
Amen to that. He's a helluva actor. Mast of the art!
He was awesome in The Devil’s Violinist, as Urbani, the Mephistopheles to Paganini’s Faust.
I strongly believe Warner Bros posted this to check interest of audience for Sherlock.
YES, WE LOVE THIS SHERLOCK AND WE WANT TO SEE SHERLOCK 3
Do you really want a Sherlock 3 with the trends dominating Hollywood now? A "woke" Sherlock would be different. And not really for the better.
@BullseyeBullsclaw Trouble is a lot of the time you cant tell from reviews. Mindhunter for instance is an excellent story. But the female psychologist is so sjw it almost makes the thing unwatchable. Or the latest season of Ozark. For me the most annoying part isnt the overt insults but rather the subtle psychological messages of hatred. They are not outright said.. Oh no. They are implied through character interactions ruining the stories for me. Because I know it is intentional. It happens too often to be random. Films before 16 dont have such things. Even when I saw them occasionally I wasnt insulted because I could tell it was accidental. But now.... Jesus. Herr Goebbels would be very impressed with Hollywood's skill in propaganda.
The Netflix series with bennedit cumberbach is a lot more relatable and interesting to me
@@nikosgreek352 do you think Guy Ritchie would bend over for those agendas and not make the movie he wants to make?🤔
@@evanabbott2737The pc block enjoys immense power in the filmmaking community and their influence is only growing. Especially after the left secured full power in the american congress. Up until now men like Richie have had enough clout to ignore them but for how much longer? The pc coalition will not be satisfied until they control all aspects of mainstream media and culture. Recently the Oscar committee decided no film could get an Oscar unless it satisfied certain diversity quotas. What does that tell you? Perhaps it is time for a schism in Hollywood.
we need SHERLOCK HOLMES 3
yes
They mentioned that the movie was already in development since 2018 if I remember correctly. Anyways, I can't wait :D
They are currently shooting the movie
Well last Saturday I watched it and I love it 😍
@@glennappiah5230 ......but its not out yet.....
4:00
“The laws of celestial mechanics dictate that when two objects collide…..there is always damage in a collateral nature”
I love that line, so many interpretations, and all of them apply to these two and their relationships.
Funny how if Moriarty hadn't invited Holmes into his office like this, Holmes wouldn't have been able to decode his journal. Despite all the respect he says he has for Holmes, it's clear he 100% believes that Holmes is beneath him, rather than an intellectual equal. His inability to recognize talent in others and underestimate anyone who isn't him ends up being his downfall
Sounds like grindelwald. :The elephant is too large to notice the mice plotting his death."
Very astute observation
That's why sherlock holmes described him as a narcissist
@@kunalmachra They're both narcissists.
I think he invited holmes for that purpose. He hoped holmes would connect the dots from his observations. He nor Sherlock held no certainty that either would end up on top. It really should have been a draw. Considering sherlocks injuries it is unlikely he would have survived that fall, but audiences recoil at sad endings.
This Moriarty is intelegently creepy and cunning, like the way he threats Sherlock while playing along with Sherlock's game is scary. He outsmarts Sherlock, a brilliant villain
For this reason, in my mind, he is the best villain ever put onto the film screen. As well, Jared Harris' perfect performance makes this the best movie ever made in my opinion.
All the while Sherlock tries to get under his skin, his subtle face twitch just unnervingly show his savage side to the gentleman mask that he's wearing. It just adds the extra layer of how unhinged he really is underneath it all.
@@quantumplutonian6414 ...you must be quite young
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That's why it's kinda cheap of the script on how Sherlock defeated Moriarty. Why is he having the book he uses for code on his secret notes lying around when he invited Sherlock? The Moriarty the movie portraits wouldn't make this mistake.
Irene Adler's death was a very brutal way of pushing this story forward and clearly demonstrated Moriarity's "moral insanity", as Holmes put it, as well as the professor's genius and efficiency. It set up a perfect villain for Sherlock - one who was as cruel as he was intelligent and cunning.
Have we seen her dead?
@@MusicInUniverse no, we Just se her starting to walk with some dificult and ear her falling in some table dead
I think she is not dead she is also smart fella.
if the third movie use Milverton as enemy. that be like dealing with 10 moriarty.
Sherlock smells the handkerchief later and throws it away with a smile. Implies it is wine and Adler faked her death.
Both rivals yet they treat each other like gentlemen and have in a way high respect for each other
That's what makes this movie so great. Wished we saw more of them!
The Comedy Bros same, this scene and the chess scene are the only 2 that show Holmes and Moriarty interacting this way
They have to. In Moriarty's case they're in a public setting and he can't afford to act out of the ordinary, especially considering he's the "control the strings" type of guy. In Holme's case he doesn't have any proof to convince anyone of Moriarty's actions should he try to apprehend him and cause a ruckus. Anything he might try would only see him banned from the college and it'd be difficult to for him to approach him again. But I assure you they want to blow each other's brains out.
@@LuciusVulpes I 100% agree, Moriarty is in complete control during this scene. And he wants Holmes to witness the consequences of his actions by interfering with his plans. Plus just like he’s says, he has high respect for him, and it’s because of that reason and that reason alone, that Holmes is still alive.
@Meta Man I couldn’t have said it better myself
I honestly admire the way they depicted Moriarty in this very movie. Especially as to his manner of speaking, in which we may observe the utmost respect towards Holmes and a formidable level of education (he is a professor after all, not to mention a criminal mastermind). Both just sell it.
More true of a bond villian than in any of Danial Craig movies lol
This is my type of confrontation. There is no physical violence, but the intensifying stares of both these wonderful characters give the audience a confrontation that is enough but leaves you wanting more of it.
And even when it comes to physical confrontation, mental and psychological confrontations preceding it just serves to intensify the conflict, making the physical ever more sweet when it arrives.
@@ReiseLukaswhich is exactly what happened at the end of the movie (atleast mentally)
Moriarty doesn't water the plants....
Plants: So you have chosen death...
Then there's this book about horticulture. It's very ironic. XD
This is ingenious!
The Gaia Theory at it's peak
It’s really funny because if Moriarty had left John out of it, and John never got involved, Moriarty probably would’ve won.
He would've won if not for those dead plants on the window.
@@ichigo3223 Don't forget leaving the cipher for his code on a chalk board for all to see
If Holmes hadn't insulted Moriarty, then he might not have included Watson in their little war.
Well looks like it goes both ways
I think Moriarty would have gone after Watson anyway because of his and Holmes' association, and psychopaths don't really follow average people's logic
Jared Harris was so menacing, well-mannered yet terrifying in this film, a really intense performance. I saw him in this film first and discovered his other work later, just marvellous. For a long time I didn't even know he was the son of Richard Harris.
Moriarty seems really smart.. i think he’s going to do great things in the field of nuclear energy
Yeah he's going to nuke someone sometime
@@starliner2498 It is a reference to Chernobyl. The guy playing Moriarty here is a nuclear physicist in Chernobyl series.
@@bhupendrakumar2520 that's neat, I had no idea
@@starliner2498 Bruh
He might do 'Not great not terrible'
"I'm afraid....you'd lose"
RDJ nailed it.
Did Moriarty mention the word inevitable in the movie?
@@oscarrzga4615 Yes "inevitable" was mentioned in the movie, but, I think it was said by Holmes, not Moriarty.
@@arunkumargupta4564 Yea from what I can remember it was in their final fight, Holmes says the conclusion is inevitable.
@@randomgaming7356 Yes.
@@arunkumargupta4564 however he did then utter unless....
So just like Endgame Thanos thinks he is inevitable...unless...😏
When Sherlock found the “Art of Domestic Horticulture” and the withered plants, Moriarty already lost.
can you please explain that part to me? i absolutely dont have any idea how that correlates to moriarty's loss. is it the throwing caution to the wind metaphor people discussed above in moriarty's pursuit to destroy holmes? or the wild haymakers moriarty threw to keep holmes back to the balcony in the video of their final showdown?
@@neilcuaresma5656 iirc the book was being used as moriaty's codebook and Holmes only knew because of how Moriaty obviously didn't read it for it's intended purpose
@@bs2202 what was the purpose?
@@hellolastname9556 A book on Horticulture would be used to help maintain and grow plants, Moriaty obviously didn't use it for that since his flowers were dead
Important clues must be introduced early in the story and this one was the key. It looks like they made it a touch too obvious on purpose so that the audience could keep up.
It's one thing to create brilliant characters, another to give the audience clever, not too obvious clues.
I am honestly not joking when I say that Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows is in my top ten films of all time. For me it isn't just an underrated Ritchie movie, it's a criminally underrated movie full stop. Seriously, watch it again and listen to that dialogue, chemistry, and visual panache. Frustrates me no end that he didn't or couldn't go for a 3rd a few years later.
The chess match at the end is mind blowing alone. While they sit at the game board, they are using their associates as if they are also pieces in the game. Watson is literally standing on what looks like a chess board. Holmes & Moriarty also sit, stand, fight on what looks like a chess board. Many layers. Intricately designed scene.
Agreed. One of my all time favourite films as well.
3:09 When they shake hands Sherlock looks uneasy because Moriarty says 'officially', a subtle way of saying he has been watching him.
Afterward Sherlock fires back by studying his handwriting outloud, letting Moriarty know that he is investigating him too.
It's actually a reference to the first movie, where Holmes approaches Moriarty's carriage while wearing a disguise.
From the minute that Holmes walked into that room, Moriarty was taunting him with the Schubert piece playing give up your foolish trickery, this fish you cannot cheat! Holmes let him know immediately he knew what Moriarity was doing.
His acting in sherlck holmes is better than any of his marvel movies. None could play this role better than him.
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@@tareknaitsaada1108 They are way too different to compare.
@@nirajsolanki121 you can appreciate them separately though
Jeremy Brett is the best Holmes. RDJ is great though.
Restoration, less than zero, tropic thunder, Chaplin, Sherlock Holmes, the judge, natural born killers, soloist . Amazing performances. You should see
“Something stronger perhaps?” He says, because Holmes is a known substance abuser. Brilliant.
This Moriarty was a million times better than the one in sherlock
There is an even better moriarty than this one now.. Moriarty the Patriot!
Waiting so eagerly for season 2 of that anime 😍
So much yes! The ''Sherlock'' Moriarty is like a sunday morning cartoon villain, he's so over the top the character became a caricature.
This is the first time I've seen someone like Jared better than Andrew.
@National Socialism I've never seen anyone pick Jared over Andrew. Although I prefer Jared too. Andrew's version was more like the joker lol, I never imagined Moriarty that way, although Andrew was still brilliant
@National Socialism I don't think it did remove the camaraderie, what hurt the relationship for me was them making Watson the near equal to Holmes.
Watson is the audiences proxy, there to be as astounded at how Holmes works things out as we are. When Watson no longer provides that then there is no longer as need for Watson.
But you are right about Moriarty. It was a nice twist to combine the two people who were the equal to Holmes. Such a shame that Natalie Dormer wasn't available to appear in the show more often.
I want a third movie of Sherlock, please.
Releasing on October 2021 approximately.
It comes out in 2021 ❤
A third one is coming next year, with RDJ and Law returning. However, director Guy Ritchie will not be.
@@jtatum6900 2022(dec 2021)
@@ComedyBros5 that would be a shame. The director is definitely a big part of what makes these movies so stylish and great.
"Make sure he packs my white tie and tails"
For the opera later. Always loved this little line.
If only the presidential debate was this sensible
honestly
Yeah... That'd be cool. But as it is, it's much more entertaining! At least we can get a laugh as the country tears itself apart.
@오윤희 agree
Too much money involved to have a debate like this.
They both have to be smart and articulate. Neither possess either quality. It doesnt matter now that is in the past. I think we should make them do sword fights or something fun
The stark difference between this Moriarty and Andrew Scott's moriarty is ridiculous
Hahahah.....he said "stark" :DDD
Now people can't compare them.
Jared Harris is Moriarty at his most refined and cleverly concealed, Andrew Scott is all of the hate and evil of Moriarty made manifest.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Are you being serious? Andrew Scott's Moriarty is pure OTT camp and slapstick. He's a terrible Moriarty and BBC Sherlock is an insult.
No. The "stark" difference is rather "strange".
“If I were assured of the former eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter” - In their first meeting Homes gives away how he beats Moriarty. He doesn't try to beat him, he goes for mutual destruction. Sacrificing himself to take out Moriarty.
Yep
Yet still preparing to survive with the oxygen canister.
Such an excellent scene. The understated interaction between the two nemesis is perfect. The "former" and "latter" comment from Holmes is taken directly from Sir Aurthur Conan Doyles's Moriarty story.
I didn't realize that! I love the line because it shows a selfless side of Holmes, something we don't often talk about or see in adaptations. It's part of the framework for why he is a detective. Sure, he loves the intellectual exercise, but he also genuinely cares about helping others and making the world a little better. So it's cool to know that comes from the original.
We all are eagerly waiting for 3rd installment.
Actually Impatiently!
Well its confirmed by the studios and rdj theyre in the process of making the third movie but with covid going on i doubt its gonna release the intended date. Was supposed to release this year, then postponed next year.
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"If you attempt to bring destruction upon me, then i shall do the same to you."
"If I were assured of the former eventuality, I'd glady accept the latter."
And poetically, the film ends as they both fall to their own mutual demise.
(I know sherlock lives)
I don’t think that Moriarty also was easily killed. If the third movie will come out, then I am pretty sure that he survived.
@@slasher19necroslayer42 it would be one of few situations where I would accept a "surprise, I'm not dead!" plot twist without thinking it incredibly contrived.
@@slasher19necroslayer42he did not survive, nor does it make sense for him to.
BBC should take note. THIS is how you do a Moriarty, not an overtly camp psychopath with no other aim but to flirt with Sherlock. This version is supremely intelligent, sophisticated and dangerous. He is the perfect foil to Sherlock. What an amazing job by both actors. Jared Harris is phenomenal.
Moriarty is not a psychopath. He is a sociopath.
@@shanshajahan8160 That's Holmes my guy
High function sociopath or sth
Both of them are sociopaths
Honestly, they should have got Jared Harris to play young Dumbledore in the latter Wizarding World movies.
Giveb jared harris's other work like the Terror or chernobyll i wonder if they didnt ask him to be in it, he read the script, decided it wasnt worth his time,and decided to stick with working on the greatest tv shows of all time
His father was the old Dumbledore
I'm sure he was approached about it and politely declined. Too much baggage and particulars there, playing one of his father's best known roles.
The world deserves a third installment of this series after everything we've been through
It's coming. Underdevelopment since 2018
@@bait5257 And it seems that in this third movie, there will be the worst pirate we've ever heard of.
@@lindildeev5721 Ah, are you sure it's him and not Dumbledore's best friend?
It's coming but wont be developed by Guy Ritchie sadly, very sad.
This world DOESN'T DESERVE ANYTHING
Jared Harris is perfect Casting. and this scene gets better with age, like a fine wine
Isn't it great re-watching the movie, and catching things you missed the first time? Holmes looking all over Moriarty's office, observing and remembering everything. It fits perfectly with the end of the movie.
I love that at 2:30, Holmes looks at the board and sees the coefficients of (x+1)^{n}. Of course, these are the binomial coefficients, and Moriarty was said to have written a treatise on the Binomial Theorem.
@Divergent Integral Yeah, me and a buddy back at Purdue used to laugh at fictional (and sometimes, nonfictional) characters and their association with mathematics.
For example, in A Beautiful Mind, Russell Crowe makes an early comment about how most of his students will never understand what's written on the chalkboard behind him. Give it a looksie to see this "impossible" theory. ;-D
@Divergent Integral are u from which university sir?
@@adrianjenkins5877 havent seen it, but i think many maths students just see maths in the form of numbers and letters glued together and have no understanding of what is actually happening, like with differentiation many people just think "apply formula and find answer" without understanding what the derivative actually tells you. i wouldn't be surprised if many people just "know" how to solve linear equations without understanding their application
@Divergent_Integral It's how he codes the agriculture book! Some seemingly irrelevant equation (1, 1+1 = 2, 2+1 = 3, 1+3+1 = 5, etc.) leads to specific letters in the book which turns out to be names under which boxes are held.
What I enjoy about this scene is Moriarty's demeanor: His paused way of speaking and his posture is as if whatever is happening around him, he always planned it beforehand.
This is one of the best interpretations of the Sherlock Holmes / Moriarty confrontation ever performed (Jeremy Brett's version was exactly canonical). RDJ's Sherlock Holmes is shocking to the senses but it works and is one of the most refreshingly creative depictions ever. Can't wait for Sherlock Holmes 3!!!
BBC Moriarty: Spontanious Madness
Film Moriarty: Controlled Insanity
Sociopath
Fans always complain about these films dumbing down the Holmes stories but there's so much clever dialogue in this scene alone. The films aren't perfect, but they're a lot of fun and I really enjoy their versions of these iconic characters.
It's so awesome to see two most superiorly extreme intelligent people having a conversation and challenging each other in a room without anyone
I like the way Holmes drives Moriarty mad with his analysis of handwriting just to make sure what the professor is capable of when he is being attacked.
And i like that Moriarty only responded when Holmes was about to call him insane. Moriarty is fine with any derogatory term you label him with, but he takes great offense when you question his mentality.
Man, I really wish they kept doing Sherlock movies like this with Downey. I would have watched a dozen of them.
Moriarty character in this movie 🎬 was the best version. Because he's generally calm, he's infinitely more intimidating.
watch Moriarty the patriot it's an animated series you will love it
And so Moriarty begins the game by taking Sherlock's Queen.
The graphology reference at 3:14 makes me chuckle because it is a complete pseudoscience and Sherlock proceeds to tell Moriarty exactly who and what he is after initially praising him. Reads him like a book. What a power move.
Sherlock was very playful up to the point when moriaty explains the death of who could have been the love of his life. This is the first time you see sherlock in pain, and you feel for him. The tone of sherlocks voice changes, and you get the feeling he is no longer messing around with moriaty, and he also realises that he can not allow this mad man to continue his behaviour as he is far too dangerous not only to himself but the country and the rest of the world. The chess scene is perfect as well
I know the Holmes-Adler relationship was controversial, but I think this scene shows one way the relationship is kinda consistent with canon. Watson says at some point in the original story that he thinks the idea of falling in love would be distressing to Holmes. At no point does he or Irene say they love the other. But when he realizes she's dead, there's this moment of, "Wait... maybe I did love her. But I can't do anything about it because now she's gone." And it does bring him distress because he didn't really let himself be in love until it was too late.
Props to RDJ for the acting here. I feel it every time.
These 2 sherlock movies are in the league of their own...master class pure genius
Jarred Harris is such an under rated actor. He was amazing in Chernobyl too.
Nice touch at the end with Sherlock tossing aside his freshly autographed copy of Moriarty’s book and then taking Irene’s bloodied handkerchief, further indicating that he is now through with the professional courtesies with his adversary, as they’ve now just made things personal.
This is also perfectly paired with the excellent foreshadowing to the endgame in the line, “If I were assured of the former eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter.”
The word is "cheerfully"
2:38-2:42 These four seconds prove to be enormously important at the end of the movie
"Now, are you sure you want to play this game?"
"I'm afraid, you'd lose"
Great Scene😍🔥
Spectacular representation of etiquette by both gentlemen.
Two masters of their craft playing two masters at their craft
Sherlock basically solves the case and tells Moriarty how he's gonna end their game in this scene. What a finely crafted interaction.
Man, Jared Harris's Moriarty is like an gentlemanly calm yet evil version of Obi Wan Kenobi!
Jared Harris was such a perfect Moriarty.
i dont understand how people rate the BBC Sherlock above this masterpiece is beyond me
have you watched the entire 4 seasons of it?
I enjoyed both but bbc version is a tad better
BBC version is so pleased with itself.
Ikr, this is a thousand times better.
Its cinematically better but the bbc one is more fun to watch
I was so worried about the casting of Moriarty as he is one of my favorite fictional characters ever. Jared Harris was absolutely perfect.
1:35 I honestly got scared by this small moment with Moriarty. Holmes is on the same playing field as him, and he's genuinely pleased.
Especially if you consider that Moriarty is Sherlock's intellect but none of his morals.
I like how sherlock answers moriarty's question about watson's wedding not directly but about what's behind the question.
Moriarty is better, smarter and more cunning than Sherlock, it’s what makes him such a great villain. He’s pushes Sherlock every time to his near break point and that’s him just toying with him.
But Holmes is patient and not prone to anger, unlike ol' Moriarty.
cmon..we know what happened at the end, and how Sherlock stole his diary. Moriarty has only the advantage of power (as in resources) which Sherlock never showed any interest in.
@@juhabach6371 I think they're reffering no the books.
@@oscarrzga4615 in the books he mostly appears indirectly and when they finally come against each other head on it lasts like a few pages. No where says he's "smarter and more cunning than sherlock"
their intelligence levels are equal. Their intelligence levels are different. Holms is far more creative and open minded than moriarty.
One of my favourite Moriarty's, up there with Eric Porter, Porter had the look but Harris has the presence and sheer evil intelligence, both brilliant
I still prefer this Moriarty to the one from the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock Holmes.
this one is more mature and experienced while the one from BBC was more of an evil teenager with a better IQ than normal human
I like that they are both completely different takes tbh, variation is the spice of life
@Alfathony ah, another man of culture
Benadryl CabbagePatch?
This one is what Moriarty is supposed to be.
the problem Moriarty made in this scene was assuming Irene was his queen piece when really it was Watson who was his queen piece all along. Sherlock really was ready to lose in order for Watson to win the game.
Jumping off the falls was an insane gamble that probably should and relistically would have killed him regardless of the rebreather. The reason he lived is luck and the possibility of a sequel. In the books he never fell at all, but watson assumed he did.
according to a conversation Holmes has with Moriarty later in the movie, Watson's a bishop, not the queen
Eric Porter will always be the definitive Moriarty in my mind, but Jared Harris’ version is just as interesting and probably the most dangerous because of his air of respectability. When I first saw him, I was not impressed, but when he started talking, I knew that there was something sublimely evil about this incarnation of the character. Definitely a monster in every sense of the word. He even masks his threats in a facade of gentlemanly small talk.
He’s so evil yet so smooth lol. Imagine another life where they teamed up as bros, they could do anything; he’s like Holmes’s mirror image.
Guy Ritchie just needs to make a third movie
3rd movie is coming but sadly not with Guy Ritchie
@@amandsniper NOOOO
@@amandsniper who then
Dexter fletcher from Lock stock and two smoking barrels is directing the 3rd one
What are you guys waiting for to make Sherlock Holmes 3?
Roman Fc part 3 releasing on October 2021, approximately.
Uh.. covid 19??
Cause they did start shooting before that, but well they had to stop
2021
Among other thing, RDJ was busy in the MCU.
“If I were assured of the former eventuality I would cheerfully accept the latter!”
That’s a great quote, and it’s made better by it coming to fruition at the end. Holmes told him straight up what he was willing to do to win and Moriarty took it for granted. It would prove to be his undoing.
Probably an obvious observation but I absolutely love how both Sherlocks and Moriartys themes subtly play when they're "thinking" at 2:30.
Truly a dangerous man. Very few literary/fictional characters have ever filled me with dread like Professor James Moriarty has.
Hannibal lecter is also terrifying .
@@danceboyish Indeed.
Such a powerful meeting. I've watched the movie once and I never really understood the subtext on the scene until I've rewatched this clip. I like how Moriarty immediately says "NO" to Sherlock's statement that Dr Watson is not to be involved in their fight, after he discover's sherlock's intention to subtly accuse him.
Just started watching these movies again.
The sheer atmosphere and world building created for this story is mind-blowing.
In the first one, they even make whistling a common behavior, which even more immerses me in the time period because, well, whistling was actually common back then.
This is my chilling movie. I don't get frustrated when I see it. Everything is so perfect. Famous actors/ actresses and their brilliant performances, nice plot, beautiful scenes from the 18th century
The way that Robert Downey Jr says moral insanity sent chills down my spine
"If I were assured of the former eventuality, I would cheerfully except the latter"....dead😂🙌
what did he mean by this?
@@SaadKhan-rr2ww Moriarty said if Sherlock tried to destroy him and his plans he would destroy Sherlock in response. Sherlock then says if Moriarty's destruction was guaranteed(If I were assured of the former eventuality), he would gladly destroy himself in that pursuit (cheerfully accept the latter).
@@vforvendetta60 thank you for clarifying
@@SaadKhan-rr2ww "It's just elementary my dear Watson"😉 No problem
@@vforvendetta60 this was a brilliant foretelling of their final clash. Moriarty forgot about this when they engaged in the fight within their minds, that Holmes was prepared to sacrifice himself to ensure Moriarty met his end
Moriarty biggest weaknees was his ego, he tought he wasnt playing a game with Holmes until now and he was unaware that his right hand spoke too much... "His class finishes at four", while Holmes started playing way before him, giving him the advantage, thats why he said "Im afraid you will lose", he was already one step ahead of him
“One more thing before you go, Holmes,”
“Oh?”
“Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth…”
Chernobyl
One of the best intelligent and powerful plots with incredible actors
The Professor wants to meet.... by order of the Peaky fookin' Blinders!
Tommy Frigging Shelby vs Moriarty!
Arthur had to earn his keep somehow.
@@debiduttapradhan9260 if they both lived in the same universe Shelby would be working for Moriarty
Wait, isn't Arthur Shelby played by Paul Anderson, the same actor who portrays Colonel Sebastian Moran in this movie?
@Arun Kumar Gupta That was the exact reason for this comment mate.
I watched the whole move just to see Jared Harris at his best.
Absolutely brilliant
Such great foreshadowing in this scene, at multiple moments, none less so when Sherly says if he were sure of taking down Moriarty, he would accept his own fall too, and so it happened, literally. Just binge watched both the films yesterday, wondering why I had never heard any great things about it, for it was a veritable delight.
A time of intellects. Great writing, great acting.
Moriarty practically invented the term "villain respect".
The Best Sherlock and Moriarty!
This character by Moriarty deserves an Oscar!
It shows you can be menacing by not looking crazy, and overplaying it. Probably my favourite scene in the film, with the chess scene a close second.
I love the intellectual combat here, an added bonus for me, is the fibonacci sequence on the board.
my heart jumped a beat because I thought it was a trailer.
"If I were assured of the former (destruction of Moriarty) eventuality, I would cheerfully accept the latter (destruction of Holmes himself)."
That line wins the Game of Foreshadows
One of the greatest villans of all time
quite pleasant exchange with the henchman... what u call gentlemanly conduct
00:15 Gladstone in the background xD
He troubled him for an inscription and left the book on the chair. savage
This scene is more intense than a action scene in avengers
Because it's a battle of wits, rather than a physical one.
this version of moriarty is terrifying
Movies like these comes once in a lifetime
The pressure Prof. Moriarty exerts was so subtle yet so overwhelming. I could hardly breath if directly confronting him.