Jordan Rudess say wut?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- If you had a time machine and could go back to see Dream Theater live at any point, would you choose 2016? No? Well, Jordan thinks The Astonishing Live was the best tour the band ever put on, and that everybody who saw it knows this. He also thinks The Astonishing is among the finest Dream Theater albums he ever worked on. He must really hate metal, which begs the question of why he's been playing in a metal band for almost 2 decades.
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Searchlights on stage are secretely used for finding James’ singing abillities...
Lol XD
Basically he is trying to sell their latest album.
he's a salesperson, literally.
Every fucking band in history will always say their newest album is their best. Steven Wilson once said The Incident was the best Porcupine Tree album shortly after it was released only to retract it JUST 2 years after the end of PT saying it wasn’t strong as everything before it. DT shouldn't be an exception either as they definitely said (or would have said) the same thing about I&W all the way through DT12 while touring/promoting those albums.
As for stage/tour production, sure. One could definitely make the case for it being their best regardless of where you stand on The Astonishing, and while technically impressive and a spectacle to watch, stage production doesn't and should never make up for a poor/average album to tour behind.
DT has a history of doing this, true. Both Petrucci and Sherinian claimed Falling Into Infinity was the best album for its day. Then, Rudess also claimed the self-titled album with the horrible drum sound was one of the band's best. They need to accept that they will probably never top Images, Awake, and Scenes.
The Incident was PT's second best album, second only to the masterpiece Fear Of A Blank Planet
1:10 WA WO WA WA WA WO WAH WHOAH WA BOO AAAA
i fucking laughed my ass off on that part
Seriously what track was this?!
@@sabrethemoment6799 Lord Nafaryus lmao
The composition in astonishing is freakin insane, musically it is a masterpiece, personally its one of my favorite albums of DT
DANGER DYLAN78 it definitely grew on me.
I have to admit, back in 1998-99 dream theater live concert where fucking amazing!!!! James was pretty awesome back then.
We shouldnt mock them for The Astonishing. Yeah, it may not have been their greatest album. But they worked really damn hard at it. They were trying to make it more like a musical than a prog metal album. And as a former theater performee, I can tell thats what they were striving for, and that is really creative. The hidden motif of the album is about how digital music today is taking over the music industry and that people doing real music need to step up and bring them down, aka "build a new world/our new world." If you're a Dream Theater fan, you can't hate that message.
David "VC" Miller Exactly!
I love Jordan no matter what.
We need 90s and 2000s Dream Theater back now!
God.... That live clip of Home is so fucking nasty. Peak DT
to be fair, he didn't say its their best, he said its one of their best. im sure he truly thinks that, coming from a classical background and being 1 of 2 people to write the whole thing
The Astonishing was in my honest opinion the most ambitious thing Dream Theater have ever done BUT it did not work at all and as a result they released their first bad album.
They are completely different styles, you can’t compare albums that have almost no resemblance, and call one better. If Rudess likes this show better than the others why do you care? I hope you realize people have opinions.
Nonsense. There's more dissimilarity between, say, Kind of Blue by Miles Davis and St. Anger than there is between SFAM and TA, and I'm pretty confident that Kind Of Blue is a better record than St. Anger. "People have opinions" is also becoming the worst cliché/cop-out ever. That's exactly what the morons on dreamtheaterforums.org, which ought to have its name changed to dreamtheatermorons.org, always say when you bring up any indication that Dream Theater is in dire straits right now, such as poor reception to The Astonishing on Rate Your Music.
Is it just a matter of opinion that LaBrie's singing was super pitchy on The Astonishing Tour, and that music which doesn't conform to the 12 tone scale (based on the perfect fifth interval) is usually unpleasant to the human ear?
Is it just a matter of opinion that the plot of The Astonishing is internally contradictory and doesn't make sense? What are the odds that 250 years in the future, we are going to return to having a monarchy ruling over us, and that people are going to be having sword fights? It's so silly. Petrucci decided to mesh together Star Wars and Game Of Thrones (and 2112) not realizing they were at odds with one another.
Mylast Farewell yeah but how realistic is a guy realizing he was a woman in another life through hypnosis then having his hypnotist kill him any more realistic? It is a story. It may not be the best story you’ve heard but some people also really like it. Stop judging it on realism and judge it more on the fact that you don’t like it and others do.
Also I never once mentioned James Labrie being worse then he was, that is pretty obvious. But dream theater wouldn’t feel the same without him either way.
OK, you do actually have a point there about the plot of Metropolis Pt. II. However, I think most people never really gave a shit about the plot of that album because the music was so good. That's all this ultimately boils down to. A lot of the music on The Astonishing is just not good. Or, what you can say for sure since there is a degree of subjectivity here is that it's the least popular/most controversial Dream Theater album to date. Rate Your Music, Amazon, iTunes, and Sputnikmusic to name a few - The Astonishing has the lowest aggregate rating of any DT studio album. Even a lot of people who "like" the album seem to concede that it could have been toned down. So it's really odd to me that Rudess and Petrucci keep hyping TA and marketing it with things like a $75 novel. Whether or not they intend for it to come across this way, a lot of the people who disliked the album including myself see that as a giant middle finger to us for not liking it. It's like, if this is where Dream Theater is at right now, why should we continue to pay attention? You didn't see Judas Priest putting out a video game and novel related to their similarly bloated Nostradamus album when that got a tepid reception among their fans.
Mylast Farewell I think it’s almost the same with any band for hype at least. Every band calls their new album their greatest work and the live show will be their greatest yet just to draw people in. On the whole game and book part of it, i believe the game wasn’t the bands choice but more of the choice from their management. That for sure was a cash grab, but for the book I do think the band wanted to do that, I think it sounded like a good idea in their head as a cool collectible but it just doesn’t really work. It’s definitely over priced and it won’t sell very well. I don’t think they are doing it as a whole fuck you but they probably see TA as their largest work and wanted it to be treated as such merchandise wise. I personally don’t like the album and think it shouldn’t have lasted as long as it did but that’s what we got and some people enjoy it. I just think they tried something new and it went over well with some people but didn’t go well with others. But I think they still can make great music if they don’t overdo it like TA.
We're pretty much on the same page, so I don't really see what we're arguing about. You think Jordan has a right to hold silly, nonsensical opinions? I think Dream Theater has gotten to a point, though, where they are going to be incapable of producing great music because of LaBrie. Case in point, the Xanadu cover they just put out. Mangini's drum mix on that is a big improvement from the self-titled and Astonishing, but it's still ruined by LaBrie's vocals being so chintzy and auto-tuned. That's what I think we can "look forward" to for Dream Theater's next album. The music will be a step up over Crapstonishing, but the vocals are going to have so many layers of technological processing going on to prop up LaBrie.
He said grandest, not best. He also said best production, not concert. Stop trying to put words in is mouth, also you used awful example. Sure dream theater was better live in their prime, every band is, but your examples made that gap seem way larger. Also u used really bad examples
No no no no not in any sense of the word. But essentially yes entirely.
Let's get the original lineup we'll start over,,,problem solved.
Damn son what Scenes bootleg is that?
Den Bosch, Holland 10-14-2000
Tried to get into the astonishing, just leaves me cold
Me too! I went into the album with the most optimistic attitude possible. I emotionally wanted it to be an improvement over the self-titled, which I did not enjoy the production of in the slightest. 20 odd listenings of The Astonishing in its entirety, I've had NO desire to revisit it in over 2 years now. The only good ideas seem to be on The Gift Of Music, Lord Nafaryus, Three Days, and A New Beginning, and even then, the drum sound puts me off.
This video is fun
I think is understandable He thinks like that, He won't say anything bad about it, although I think after DT start to be more famous They start to regress, at least for what we know called as Progressive Metal, I do agree Astonishing sucks. What is sad: we will never see tours like TOT, Octavarium, Scenes, BCSL again.
Was Jordan trying to say that they had never done something like The Astonishing before, but he was just trying to sell the album?
Why would you compare two soft singer-songwriter passages with a hard rock passage? Looks dishonest. Compare their soft parts with other soft parts. Some of the soft parts on Scenes are cringe too imo
Damn they need to fire LaBrie...
1:10 😂
It kills every time 😂😂
Our new world is the best Dream Theater music induscitible
The astonishing was trying to be different and I don't think it hit home like their other records. Can't win em all. Animations on lyric videos were very low quality though
Hey, what's the song at 1:00?
Shourya Watwani The spirit carries on
More is less.
Whats the song at 1:25 ?
Home
"Home" from Metropolis pt.2: Scenes From A Memory - the single greatest prog album in history. Every song on there is either very very good or a downright masterpiece. As a whole it is unparallelled.
And Jordan thinks The Astonishing is at least roughly on par with Scenes. Not too many people would agree with him on that.
Comparing slow ballads from The Astonishing to heavy and groovy songs from SFAM isn't exactly a fair comparison
its kinda funny how much this guy hates the astonishing
It's awful
It's their new album what'd you expect him to say? And you are still cherry picking songs. What about songs like The Gift of Music, A New Beginning, Moment of Betrayal, Our New World etc. LaBrie became a terrible live vocalist in their latest works and for some reason you're blaming the whole band for his performance...?
Nathan Lawrence And for some reason I'm not expecting him to answer. I'd love to be proven wrong however 😁
Fuck it. I hated The Astonishing, the old DT is gone the day Portnoy stepped out of thr band.
The Asonithing is the best dt album 100%
Congrats on comparing the incomparable
No no no no not in any sense of the word. But essentially yes entirely.