If we listen carefully to the bypass sound and then to the effected one, we can clearly hear that the sound of the tc Electronic flashback II is more respectful of the original timbre. And with the flashback you have the option to choose whether to put it in true bypass or buffer mode. The boss has a slightly more processed and "digital" sound and has a more dominant effect on the bypass sound. It's a matter of taste and personal choice. Personally I preferred the tc Electronic flashback II because it preserved my sound more, both with the pedal on and especially in bypass. I noticed this when I used it after the overdrives: compared to the boss, the sound of the tc Electronic was much warmer and more organic, and it didn't change the timbre of my two overdrives (Boss bd-2 waza Craft Japan and warm audio odd). The note decay in the tc was also much more natural. My comparison was made mainly with the selectors of the two pedals in digital delay mode. But even in analog and tape the tc Electronic seemed warmer and more natural to me. Test done with Fender stratocaster american series fat's 50 Pick up and Fender hot rod de luxe III amplifier.
Flashback 2 -Mash function on every algorithm -Switchable internal buffer and kill-dry -LED in Looper mode flashes at the beginning of the loop so you're not guessing where the loop starts -Deep dive editing via Toneprint DD-8 -Better analog mode (Flashback 2 analog mode lacks grit) -Legendary Boss durability -Onboard tap tempo and dedicated jack for external switch that doesn't sacrifice Stereo In
The DD-8 is generally brighter and glossier and the Flashback is generally warmer in most of the comparisons. They're both really good, but I'm going with a Boss because I have a good analog delay but I'm looking for a brighter, digital sounding delay.
Ok, if we consider that the pedal is going to be combined with some overdrive in crunch mode or with more gain, it is likely that the Boss will perform better if it is more crystalline. My question comes because the Boss Delays always gave me an idea that was too clean and not very warm. Maybe in Analog or Tape mode, it is not like that,,,Thanks for your answer
Im new to pedal effects and really dont know what to choose between the flashback 2 and DD-8. What about the reliability, sound quality, etc. I know I want to learn ambiant. I have a Katana boss 50 as an amp too 😣
Hey,, i really like your demo. After 3x i watch it,, my conclusion : Boss crystal clear but make your tone a bit bright as compensation. TC is a bit warm, but it's transparent. I can hear the dry signal more pronounce. Boss,, it blends dry n wet really good. Hard to tell which dry signal is. Now,, user choose by their needs. Imo, TC will be go friendly with overdrive or distortion, coz it will focus on midrange territory more (where the guitar range should be in the mix). Player who plays atmospheric and experimental sounds will be happy with boss,, coz it's inspiring.
I'm addicted to your channel and chords of Orion. I wish you guys would do something together, Maybe a ambient jam. I just got the flashback, it's on its way, but I'm already thinking maybe I should have the dd8 in this price range. Close call. As far as sounds and user experience please let me know what you think.l of the two pedals. It's hard to tell just from the sounds on TH-cam. You have a great channel. Thanks for your work and demos etc. !!!
The tap tempo on the previous TC v1 Flashback was genius not on the v2 unfortunately... Worked like this (bought it on Friday, flawless tap Sunday morning) -- hold the switch down for about 2-3 seconds... then while holding down the switch, scratch the strings with the pick at the tempo you want... let go of switch and there ya go... simple... I'm not crazy about Toneprints, so dropping the tap tempo and adding 3 TP slots steered me clear of the FBv2... I still have my v1, and won't sell it or trade it for anything. -- Plus... the font size on the controls of the TC unit are way way more easy to read for my old eyes... but the Boss gadget, you gotta stoop over with a magnifying glass to read it when it is new...
for me, DD-8 for clean & true stereo digital delay, for a bit darker analog delay, the DM-2W... both Boss pedals, because they do it the best imo. also, TC Electronics was acquired by Behringer, a company I refuse to support in any area.
Excellent video and great performance! I have both and I prefer the Boss DD8. More real natural delay sounds and great quality. Also it’s totally quiet.
They’re both good. It can depend on your pickups and amp. One advantage of the TC is the knobs are easier to turn if you have to turn them in the middle of a song
Good afternoon, I am in doubt between buying one of these pedals, my musical project explores rock n roll punk and psychedelic. what do you advise? thanks
I have the FB 2 after coming from a Carbon Copy (still have and use it). It's ok. But just seems a bit one-dimensional sounding. The Boss DD8 here sounds more organic and 'authentic' to my ears. It's a bit difficult to get a proper perspective on the delays though as you have the FB on the 'quarter note plus dotted eight' setting rather than just 'quarter note' where the Boss is set to.
@@PerryFrank So are you saying you adjusted the strereo settings from stock for this demo? I'm referring to the actual quality of the delay signal as well as the dry - not the stereo spread.
The Boss is on quarter note delay, but the TC is toggled to quarter + dotted eighth. That's frustrating. So close to an apples to apples shoot-out, but different enough to negate the comparison for me.
I don't think so, Tc is on quarter + dotted eight because that's the only way to have a good stereo sound. So I'm comparing the stereo panorama of the pedals and the sonic possibilities, not the tempo.
I’ve finally been running my FB 2 in stereo and Perry Frank is correct. In quarter and eighth note mode most of the settings don’t do stereo panning - primarily the analogue settings. The dotted quarter + eighth is the only way to get a stereo panning effect across all the delay settings. One of the areas that the Boss wins on imho.
Are you a little slow? Those are mono or stereo inputs. Two cables don't make a difference, it's still mono in that arrangement because they're going into the same pedal
Mono output into mono input = same as using both cables. It only becomes stereo if the two outputs go to different things like other pedals or separate amps . That's why one is labeled mono and a second cable is required to be stereo. Google stereo and stop posting videos to educate people if you're ignorant
@@jawshhedd7339 oh my God another smart guy like you, that's what I needed today... Thanks for your smart comment. Now everybody knows you're smart as a stone. The guitar is a mono signal, it can't be stereo, It's not a synth. These two pedals are stereo so to connect them, two patch cables are required. One for left channel and one for right. So you can hear the stereo sounds of the first and of the second pedal. Is it too hard to understand? Slow poor one.
No new reply? I never intended to be an asshole, but you were a smart ass when I asked a simple question. Have you realized that I'm right yet? Simple Google search is all you need
You just think they do because you read somewhere that vintage is better…. My father’s actually from back in the day 60,70s and he he says nowadays stuff sounds way better.
La comparaison ne vaut rien. Les pédales sont en série donc passe par le mauvais buffer Boss. L'avantage de la Flashback 2 est que le son de l'instrument reste toujours analogique donc direct qu'elle soit active ou non. Ça fait toute la différence et la Flashback est fonc plus que recommandée car elle est totalement transparente. Ce test ne met en avant cette qualité... Et ça change tout, un son passant dans une Boss devient aigu, dur et manque de profondeur. Boss toujours aussi nul
THANK YOU, the FLASHBACK sounded really cool and straight forward to use - now I've made my decision..... something that this old fart is going to get......🥸
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If we listen carefully to the bypass sound and then to the effected one, we can clearly hear that the sound of the tc Electronic flashback II is more respectful of the original timbre. And with the flashback you have the option to choose whether to put it in true bypass or buffer mode. The boss has a slightly more processed and "digital" sound and has a more dominant effect on the bypass sound. It's a matter of taste and personal choice. Personally I preferred the tc Electronic flashback II because it preserved my sound more, both with the pedal on and especially in bypass. I noticed this when I used it after the overdrives: compared to the boss, the sound of the tc Electronic was much warmer and more organic, and it didn't change the timbre of my two overdrives (Boss bd-2 waza Craft Japan and warm audio odd). The note decay in the tc was also much more natural. My comparison was made mainly with the selectors of the two pedals in digital delay mode. But even in analog and tape the tc Electronic seemed warmer and more natural to me. Test done with Fender stratocaster american series fat's 50 Pick up and Fender hot rod de luxe III amplifier.
Flashback 2
-Mash function on every algorithm
-Switchable internal buffer and kill-dry
-LED in Looper mode flashes at the beginning of the loop so you're not guessing where the loop starts
-Deep dive editing via Toneprint
DD-8
-Better analog mode (Flashback 2 analog mode lacks grit)
-Legendary Boss durability
-Onboard tap tempo and dedicated jack for external switch that doesn't sacrifice Stereo In
Made the decision to get the Flashback 2. Now with the update you can omit the Mesh for the Tap Tempo just with the stomp switch. 😊
Cool 🔥
Hello Perry. Excellent sounds and as some one else has said. Great sounds with the stereo. Cheers 🍻 mate for sharing
Hi my friend, thank you very much! 🍻
Thanks for this video. I was looking for a stereo delay. I think I have to get the Boss DD8.
🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, this video was super helpful. The Boss will be my first pedal purchase, looks kind of dull but sounds amazing.
Boss pedals can survive to atomic bombs, they're unbreakable
Nice video. Is the Standard mode sound like a DD3-T or more modern ? Thank you.
The DD-8 is generally brighter and glossier and the Flashback is generally warmer in most of the comparisons. They're both really good, but I'm going with a Boss because I have a good analog delay but I'm looking for a brighter, digital sounding delay.
I prefer the Boss too
Ok, if we consider that the pedal is going to be combined with some overdrive in crunch mode or with more gain, it is likely that the Boss will perform better if it is more crystalline. My question comes because the Boss Delays always gave me an idea that was too clean and not very warm. Maybe in Analog or Tape mode, it is not like that,,,Thanks for your answer
Try the DD7. It's the darkest delay of the Boss series. On all settings. Performs really well with drives.
Im new to pedal effects and really dont know what to choose between the flashback 2 and DD-8. What about the reliability, sound quality, etc. I know I want to learn ambiant. I have a Katana boss 50 as an amp too 😣
Hey,, i really like your demo. After 3x i watch it,, my conclusion :
Boss crystal clear but make your tone a bit bright as compensation. TC is a bit warm, but it's transparent. I can hear the dry signal more pronounce. Boss,, it blends dry n wet really good. Hard to tell which dry signal is. Now,, user choose by their needs. Imo, TC will be go friendly with overdrive or distortion, coz it will focus on midrange territory more (where the guitar range should be in the mix). Player who plays atmospheric and experimental sounds will be happy with boss,, coz it's inspiring.
Thank you 🙏 this is why I prefer Boss
I'm addicted to your channel and chords of Orion. I wish you guys would do something together,
Maybe a ambient jam. I just got the flashback, it's on its way, but I'm already thinking maybe I should have the dd8 in this price range. Close call. As far as sounds and user experience please let me know what you think.l of the two pedals. It's hard to tell just from the sounds on TH-cam. You have a great channel. Thanks for your work and demos etc. !!!
Thank you very much indeed 🙏 we did some duets in the past, maybe we will make another one in the future.
I prefer the DD8, it's more real and stereo.
Thanks. 👍
The tap tempo on the previous TC v1 Flashback was genius not on the v2 unfortunately... Worked like this (bought it on Friday, flawless tap Sunday morning) -- hold the switch down for about 2-3 seconds... then while holding down the switch, scratch the strings with the pick at the tempo you want... let go of switch and there ya go... simple... I'm not crazy about Toneprints, so dropping the tap tempo and adding 3 TP slots steered me clear of the FBv2... I still have my v1, and won't sell it or trade it for anything. -- Plus... the font size on the controls of the TC unit are way way more easy to read for my old eyes... but the Boss gadget, you gotta stoop over with a magnifying glass to read it when it is new...
for me, DD-8 for clean & true stereo digital delay, for a bit darker analog delay, the DM-2W... both Boss pedals, because they do it the best imo. also, TC Electronics was acquired by Behringer, a company I refuse to support in any area.
more Flashbacks for me then lol
Fug I didn’t know behringer bought them :( what a scam
excellent,,,do you feel the Boss, a bit more brilliant ? maybe the FB is more warm?
I prefer the Boss, I find Fb a little too dark for my taste
@@PerryFrank can edit the frequency cut off with the toneprint editor anyway to make it less dark?
@@ExiLeZH yes with the toneprint editor on pc you can do it
@@PerryFrank killer feature if you ask me, gonna pick up this pedal soon 🙂
Excellent video and great performance! I have both and I prefer the Boss DD8. More real natural delay sounds and great quality. Also it’s totally quiet.
Me too 🔥
Thank you very much 🙏
They’re both good. It can depend on your pickups and amp. One advantage of the TC is the knobs are easier to turn if you have to turn them in the middle of a song
I was all set to buy a Flashback, but me the tones from the Boss sounded much better. There was like a nasty twang coming off of the Flashback....
No se cual comprar. Cual me recomiendas?
My favorite is Boss DD8
@@PerryFrank gracias amigo. Abrazos desde Jaén
Good afternoon, I am in doubt between buying one of these pedals, my musical project explores rock n roll punk and psychedelic. what do you advise? thanks
I prefer the Boss DD8
@@PerryFrank thanks
Arg! I watched hoping for a good sample of dotted 8th
Never flipped that switch. Kind of hard to compare the sounds of the two pedals when they're using different subdivisions 😞
HOORAY!!! STEREO!!!!!😀 Thanks😊
Stereo is cool!
Great video! Thank!
🙏🙏🙏
I have the FB 2 after coming from a Carbon Copy (still have and use it). It's ok. But just seems a bit one-dimensional sounding. The Boss DD8 here sounds more organic and 'authentic' to my ears. It's a bit difficult to get a proper perspective on the delays though as you have the FB on the 'quarter note plus dotted eight' setting rather than just 'quarter note' where the Boss is set to.
In the Boss DD8 you can control the stereo panorama, that's why you hear the difference, watch this: th-cam.com/video/_to4vr34dQQ/w-d-xo.html
@@PerryFrank So are you saying you adjusted the strereo settings from stock for this demo? I'm referring to the actual quality of the delay signal as well as the dry - not the stereo spread.
Why has the DD-8 that glitchy and unnatural pitch response when changing the delay time? This is not acceptable (at least for me).
All proper Delays do that rookie.
Yeah, dude, that’s a novice question…. You fairly new to delays are you?
The Boss is on quarter note delay, but the TC is toggled to quarter + dotted eighth. That's frustrating. So close to an apples to apples shoot-out, but different enough to negate the comparison for me.
I don't think so, Tc is on quarter + dotted eight because that's the only way to have a good stereo sound.
So I'm comparing the stereo panorama of the pedals and the sonic possibilities, not the tempo.
I agree the repeats need to be at least similar to compare the sounds the tc sound too messy
@@andrewmoran357 Good, if you think so, please go and look for the perfect video away from this channel.
I’ve finally been running my FB 2 in stereo and Perry Frank is correct. In quarter and eighth note mode most of the settings don’t do stereo panning - primarily the analogue settings. The dotted quarter + eighth is the only way to get a stereo panning effect across all the delay settings. One of the areas that the Boss wins on imho.
Are the two patch cables between them necessary?
Where do you think the sound goes thru?
Are you a little slow? Those are mono or stereo inputs. Two cables don't make a difference, it's still mono in that arrangement because they're going into the same pedal
Mono output into mono input = same as using both cables. It only becomes stereo if the two outputs go to different things like other pedals or separate amps . That's why one is labeled mono and a second cable is required to be stereo. Google stereo and stop posting videos to educate people if you're ignorant
@@jawshhedd7339 oh my God another smart guy like you, that's what I needed today...
Thanks for your smart comment. Now everybody knows you're smart as a stone.
The guitar is a mono signal, it can't be stereo, It's not a synth.
These two pedals are stereo so to connect them, two patch cables are required. One for left channel and one for right.
So you can hear the stereo sounds of the first and of the second pedal.
Is it too hard to understand?
Slow poor one.
No new reply? I never intended to be an asshole, but you were a smart ass when I asked a simple question. Have you realized that I'm right yet? Simple Google search is all you need
the difference between FB1 and FB2 is only the Mash?
shimmer + 2 additional presets options
Flashback all the way smoother delay
Boss
Yes
Flashback tutta la vita!🤪
Why is it 40 year old pedals still sound better than the new ones
Like which one?
You just think they do because you read somewhere that vintage is better…. My father’s actually from back in the day 60,70s and he he says nowadays stuff sounds way better.
La comparaison ne vaut rien. Les pédales sont en série donc passe par le mauvais buffer Boss.
L'avantage de la Flashback 2 est que le son de l'instrument reste toujours analogique donc direct qu'elle soit active ou non.
Ça fait toute la différence et la Flashback est fonc plus que recommandée car elle est totalement transparente.
Ce test ne met en avant cette qualité...
Et ça change tout, un son passant dans une Boss devient aigu, dur et manque de profondeur.
Boss toujours aussi nul
THANK YOU, the FLASHBACK sounded really cool and straight forward to use - now I've made my decision..... something that this old fart is going to get......🥸
Boss
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FB