No. Now he's making shitty history videos. We already have Dan Carlin for epic history. Dude needs to go back to gaming but don't think his heart is in it anymore
“There is no future in the Bear or Bull. The Bear is diseased, barely clings to life. And the Bull… when the Legion reaches the sea, it will turn on itself and die. Killing one will end both.”
It was so diseased...that they had to nuke it's capital to stop it. Why people take Ulysses seriously is beyond me. He's just a dude that deals with the hurt he was dealt with by trying to justify it somehow...and the way he chooses is bullshit.
Ulysses is a self important narcissistic blowhard. I literally just finished NV, including Lonesome Road. Ulysses literally just saw us delivering a package and created a huge fanfic backstory in his head about us from just that one act. Then created a huge elaborate scheme to nuke the enemy of the clan that destroyed his own family. You think he would want to destroy the Legion, but nope. We're only given that option at the end once we deal with Ulysses.
using phrases like " records on the subject are murky, all we know is that there's a second Battle of Hoover dam" etc. It's just really great because it keeps the immersion going and makes it feel like you're watching a documentary while still keeping the ambiguous player chosen stuff about the lore up to the viewer of the video / player. It's a really creative and stylish way of writing that I always look forward two for these videos. Keep up the great work, looking forward to more :)
or, and here me out now, its because the next season of the fallout show, according to the hollywood pansy ass big wigs, is directly dealing with New Vegas in "film" after the events of the game. They've already adamantly maintained that the show is canon to the entirety of fallout ruling like 75% of the Sole Survivor's and Courier's endings nonexistent. By the Prydwen being in tact it means that either the Sole Survivor went with the Brotherhood or Minutemen, and from just the brief that we've seen of New Vegas it seems that either House's ending or NCR's ending are canon. My bet is going to be on a variation of House's ending for FNV because then the libshit producers can say "muh capitalism bad and everything needs to be a 1:1 vote" and somehow Lucy is gonna kill/disable House and the courier is gonna fuck off back to the divide or conveniently be in the Big Empty while this is all going on.
Deliberately pretending past games are in a permanent lore limbo is unironically worse than choosing a canon ending for past games. The “canon” takes away absolutely nothing from your individual experience playing the game and you’re crying about a non issue right now.
@@Koifin3 if you’re replying to me, yes, the canon endings matter. Eventually, Bethesda is going to run out of actual interesting places for us to visit or see and old locations are going to have to be reused. If we revisit New Vegas, The Capitol Wastes, or The Commonwealth any point in the future timelines, certain aspects are going to have to be established for the game to function on a storytelling level. They can’t retconn everything (Jet) and expect players not to notice or just go with it without serious backlash, and the more blatant it is, the more that backlash will be. Player agency is the biggest complaint with Fallout 4, and is the biggest reason why it is objectively the most disliked fallout. If players didn’t care about what’s canon and what isn’t, this wouldn’t be a complaint.
The NCR is quite literally just like the United States, too big to fall even if a single city is destroyed, if DC is destroyed for example there is still government and command structure elsewhere. The sign also says the FIRST capital of the NCR implying after New Vegas it was moved, possibly to a bigger city
@@Ranger_Brutus This is some NeoCon level coping ngl. The whole point of the NCR is that they are a corrupt state repeating the mistakes of the former US. Too big to fall? Nothing is too big to fall.
@@Ranger_Brutus Not really in how the wasteland is, the reason why most of the massive empires before travel got faster collapsed was due to lack of the ability to effectively enforce the capitals rule. The US has the benefit on not existing in that era and not getting massive till about the invention of the telegraph.
Not sure NCR education will cover how much of the pre-war history. If not, let's just say that much of its voter base could be easily manipulated by political campaigns.
I recently played Fallouts 1 and 2 for the first time and they really enhance New Vegas. It's one thing to know the lore of the NCR but it's another thing to be in Shady Sands and in the other settlements and see how the future nation grew little by little. It's pretty surreal that the NCR arose from an isolated farming community and settlements like Junktown, The Hub and the LA Boneyard which had all of these internal problems but were able to overcome them
Fantastically done. The allegory of American politics, is laid out as simply as anyone could ask, and a modestly excellent primer for the Fallout show season 2. Excellent. I'm proud of your work here, and thankful for the many hours of free Skyrim and Fallout lore content that preceded it. Keeping myself and other's thinking of our favourite fantasy on lonely nights, and revealing secrets otherwise not connected. It may be a bit much, but truly a magnum so far.
I need to make this clear, this is by far the best fallout lore video ever made. I truly believe this, you really outdone yourself Nate. Telling it like it’s actual history is perfect and the editing is perfect. I hope to see more videos like this. Keep up the great work.
Let’s all give Nate a huge round of applause for the amazing performance over these great couple of years! Thanks so much for all of the great content and entertainment! 🎉
Nate! This is one of the best Fallout video I have ever watched. You can see the love and care you put into your research and video making. Keep up the amazing work.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish a new TheEpicNate video. This is not meant to be a hate comment this is meant to be a parody of the meme "patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter".
What's up guys! It's your boy! Here to day to talk to you about how this is a historic comment! Ready to tell you FUTURE historians that THIS comment and comment responses is a TOTALLY.. ABSOLUTE PRODUCT OF ITS TIME.....
Honestly, learning its history has just made me love the NCR more. Despite its mistakes, its still really my favorite faction in fallout, kinda hoping it gets a resurgence in later material.
so glad you made a vid like this i’ve been needing a full ncr docuvid to show my friends who’ve never played fallout why the show had me genuinely tweaking
The Brotherhood has been on the path to becoming the antagonists of the series for a while now. It's only a matter of time before they go beyond the point of no return
You said the correct word. Time is their greatest ally along with those who went into hiding like the enclave and the khans while being the NCR's and Legion's mortal common enemy.
I don’t think the NCR is dead, i think they are just going through a Minuteman Arc. Indecision, massive losses, being stretched too thin, and ineffective leadership caused the first iteration to die, but it will definitely rise again. With Cold Fusion lighting and warming Los Angeles and possibly beyond, the NCR Remnants can use this old world power…to begin again. Meta Talk: Honestly i think the TV Show Season 1 was meant to be the actual ending of the NCR, but they are pulling back on that because that implication wasn’t received well. And it’s a good thing that they are listening to people’s criticisms and opinions. I honestly think Fallout Season 2’s NCR presence will be a late edition because people wanted them to stick around, so they may stand out compared to everything else. And before you say it, no it wasn’t Todd Howard who wanted Shady Sands to be blown up. He didn’t even write the show, he just advised for lore additions and changes suggested by the actual writers and Showrunners. It was THEIR idea to blow up Shady Sands, and apparently Todd was actually apprehensive to approve it at first. Ironically it was an original Pre-Bethesda Fallout Writer, Chris Avellone, who wanted this too, as he ironically holds opinions everyone accuses Bethesda of having: Chris wanted Shady Sands nuked in an effort to weaken them and create new chaos because if large swaths of land became solidified Civilizations, it wouldn’t really be a Fallout Story anymore, would it? Despite getting what he wanted, Chris Avellone hates the Show due to petty reasons lol
@@callmelance4094 Look up his review of the show. Its pretty lengthy but it paints a clear picture that the writers of the show didn't research the lore that well.
That was fantastic, Nate! The later portions could use some editing- I know you probably can't show stuff from the Amazon show, but during the portions explaining the events of the show, having some B-roll footage instead of just the Caesar throne would probably help a little- I honestly thought the video on my tablet was fouled up for some reason. But the research here, the enormous amount of detail and the obvious love for the material... edits aside, this is probably the best video you've done yet. Loved every minute, thank you!
This really helped clear up a few things for me, specifically why the NCR cared so desperately about gold mining in Redding in Fallout 2. I know there's a whole campaign in Redding, and that the NCR wanted access to the mines but I didn't internalize that NCR had moved to the gold standard.
this is just a wonderful video and made just in time for the second season of the Fallout show and tells the history of the Iconic NCR very clearly. Another great video under your belt Nate.
The cannon ending to the battle of Hoover Damn is that the sierra madre’s cloud engulfed both it and new Vegas after the tunnel era began burrowing into them leading to the city and damn being abandoned
You know what's ironic? Everyone always points out that the Legion can only last as long as Ceasar is alive and in power - I think even Joshua Graham said when he dies, the Legion dies with it. But the same could be said for the NCR. When Tandy and her father died, the glue that held it together became brittle. It limped along for a while, but after Hoover Dam? It fell apart. Without the Aradesh family holding it together, the NCR lasted about as long as the Legion. There's something very sad about that - regardless of the intent, without the charisma of their leaders these big groups just fall apart...
All it took was time which is the main apex predator that ended great civilizations throughout history and the TV show got it right. Even in the far east the Commonwealth Provisional Government didn't get a chance to be glued together to assemble it.
Nate, I've been watching your content for some time now but holy hekkin atom dude, you nailed it this time. Far better than I expected and any of your past videos.
Long time fan of your Elder Scrolls work ☺and just barely got into Fallout 😊I love listening to your videos, because you can tell how much work you put into them!
I would honestly love for the next fallout game to be set in California. There's already so much great lore to base a story in. It could be set in a time after the NCR has fragmented and fallen apart.
@@markricheard1870 Shady Sands isn't a real place IRL lol? I'm talking about how the boneyard and shady sands are two completely different cities in the lore.
From the game FNV itself tells us about the NCR, it was not doing good back home, to the point the NCR losing at Hoover Dam would in my opinion do the NCR more good in the long run then a victory.
The Brahmin barons Regaining power is due to people, losing faith in the NCR due to the corruption and its failing currency system. Go play through new Vegas and listen to the political discussions
Two things. First have you legitimately managed to run out of fallout and elder scrolls mysteries? Like I just want to know, cuz that's a damn hard task to accomplish and if you have that's a lifetime achievement. Second, I really enjoyed essentially getting a documentary from inside the fallout universe about the New California Republic. This was a real neat change of pace from your normal stuff. There's just something charming about seeing a huge mystery from the in-universe perspective.
Great video man. The NCR had a lot of problems like corruption,being spread to thin, crop problems and a growing legion they seemed to been doomed at some point.
@@CommunistHydraI’m going to go ahead and say the legion did lose but get pushed back. Because the legion is based off of the Roman republic a new person claiming to be an emperor will step up. Im actually hoping we see them next season
@@scotty5789 I'm going to paraphrase Marcus and Joshua Graham. Only Ceasar can lead the legion, the legion is doomed once he dies. Chief Hanlon agrees when you tell him that Caesar is dead, thats why he agrees to stop sabotaging the NCR in the return to sender quest. But hey, I'm just using established lore. Feel free to theorize.
@@scotty5789 the legion is based on Caesar, it’s a cult of personality. It’s not based the rest of Rome, when Caesar dies, the tribes will tear each other apart without their leader, and that’s likely what happened since no one helped Caesar with his tumor
just asked the sane question. “Wait guys, I have a question, I kmow that the Master was alive before the great war (2077) but how did he “began mustering an army of these creatures in late 50’s” if Richard Moreau (Master) left his vault in 2092 (When the Vault opened in 2092) Is he meaning 50’s like 2150? Because this would make sense “the Master transferred his command, along with his immense and pervasive body, to the vault.” Thank you for responses in advance. 😊”
I love how the old Fallout games (plus New Vegas, since that was made by the original devs) had a universe that didn't stay stagnant, it actually evolved over time. Whereas the Bethesda ones it seems like everything is still pretty much the same 200 years on. It's boring world building.
Great video, honestly, I can tell you really put a lot of work into various aspects, but... Some constructive criticisms that I'll probably get some shit for, lol: You mixed up "2050's" with "2150's" multiple times early on when discussing Fallout 1 and the Master. Also, I am almost 100% certain that House didn't know the day the bombs would drop. It was just bad timing/bad luck that the Platinum Chip was due to arrive on October 24th and the bombs hit on the 23rd. House didn't know the bombs would drop on the 23rd; he did know they would inevitably be coming sooner rather than later though. If he did know, I don't think he'd have risked the Platinum Chip arriving anywhere near the 23rd. That'd be incredibly out-of-character for him. He was as blindsided as most everyone else. Also, more than "a bomb or two" made it through House's defenses. Even a cursory Google search can confirm it was 9 warheads. This is easily accessible information that I'm a little surprised you didn't do your homework on. I've noticed details like this get glossed over in some of your videos, but, this is a very easy one to check, unless you deliberately kept it vague as part of the storytelling. House was also in a coma for several decades after the Great War and not necessarily spending all 200 years combing the wasteland for the Platinum Chip as implied in the video around 1:00:00. I imagine the higher-than-normal amount of dislikes is over missed details like this. I think the script for this video needed another pass through. The last ten minutes consisting of a few mostly static images also makes it feel like the ending/script was rushed to hit a deadline. Also, the NCR may still exist minus Shady Sands. I think jumping to the conclusion that they're totally wiped out is a tad premature? I know it's nearly an hour and a half, but, quality and all that. Despite the length of this comment, trust me, you did well. There's also a few incidents of east/west being mixed up, but, that's more minor to me than the other stuff. Just some notes I'm making as I listen. Good video otherwise, I know it's quite the endeavor and I don't mean this as hate.
I feel that them trying to destroy the NCR is just as worse as their original idea to decanonize the older games, it literally erases everything the past games established for their "new vision" of the West Coast... it's a crime, fortunately the massive blowback had Todd and Emil backtrack their stupid idea of destroying the NCR, they learned the hard way NCR fans are just as passionate as other faction fans.
@@Ranger_Brutus NCR is still around. Blow up SS blows up the biggest civilized stronghold in the region. NCR retreats to its other hub states, leaving the survivors to return to their raider routes, dying as raiders or as the raided, and probably a mad dash to NV resulting in NCR control collapsing. The organized survivors we see in Moldaver and the Vault are fanatical for Shady Sands and the NCR.
@@Ranger_BrutusChris Avellone a lead designer on fallout 2 and new Vegas wanted the ncr to be destroyed although I doubt his opinion had any impact on the show
@@Ranger_Brutus The idea to destroy shady sands was that of the showrunners, not Todd's or Bethesda. Stop spreading misinformation because you're slaty.
In Vault 15 / NCR, women were considered equal. I guess muslims were not part of the diverse and peaceful coexistence experiment of that vault. Wonder why that would be?
The NCR hasn’t “fallen”. Although they lost their first Capitol, they apparently may have multiple, and we’ll likely be seeing them again in S2 of show, great video though! “However, Todd Howard assured us that we haven't "heard the last of the NCR", and this is a sentiment that showrunners Graham Wagner and Geneva Robertson-Dworet share.”
In the show then implying that “the fall of shady sands” the FIRST capital implies that most likely Vegas or some other city is their 2nd capital, kinda like how caesar said it would be his Rome
I refuse to accept the TV show as apart of the same canon as the video games. It is as different to the established fallout canon as the 2009 JJ Star Trek was from the original 1966 TOS Star Trek. to try and link the show to the games is a fruitless and painful attempt at covering clear oversights by show writers who never played the games or cared about the established lore.
@@samsizer2919Bethesda butchered so much about the NCR that’s it’s essentially a different NCR than in the games. So it’s safe to say that it’s a different timeline, or Bethesda writers are complete idiots.
@samsizer2919 so, vault 4 was no where near shady sands in the games, to the point that it didnt even exist in the NCR and its location was unknown. Shady Sands was very far south of LA basically right next to vault 15 which is no where in the show. Shady sands was a village in the northern baja region, close to the US mexico border. In the show, its literally in the LA ruins. In the games, the NCR has 6 states with a population of over 700,000 by 2281. and thats a conservative estimate given that the NCR doesnt have a great census board. in the show, they nukes shady sands, the capital, but not even the largest city in the NCR, and somehow the entire NCR collapsed? You expect me to believe you could nuke DC alone and the US would collapse? The brotherhood of the show are entirely different as is their gear. The west coast brotherhood did not have T60 power armor as that wasnt recovered until the East coast chapter salvaged the blueprints to the T60 in the commonwealth in 2284. All T60 suits are post war refits of T45 except for a handful of prewar surviving suits that are scattered around the commonwealth and Appalachia. The Prydwen as of 2288 was in Boston, and theres no way that by 2296, just 8 years, Maxson had managed to stabilize the east coast holdings enough to send her all the way west. Meaning her plans must have been sent, but it took 5 years to gather the supplies and 2 years to build, and thats even with captured enclave equipment making the construction faster. So why does the west coast have a prydwen class airship when they should have none or their own class. Why does the brotherhood use the modular assault rifle from the commonwealth instead of the plasma rifles and plasma casters they used in the Mojave? Why have the ranks been completely jumbled? Squires in the games are children born to the brotherhood. Outsiders trying to join like Maximus are supposed to be called Aspirants until they are officially recruited, at which point they are granted the rank of Initiate. Not Squire. Initiates are both raw recruits and the lower foot soldiers of the brotherhood, NOT the man servants of paladins. Once an Initiate proves themselves worthy, they are granted the rank of Knight OR are moved to the Scribes. The scribes can be engineers, medics, demolitions, pilots, lancers, researchers, scientists, archivists, etc. Knights act as junior officers or NCOs, some get power armor as a Knight. Depends on their mission. Knights are almost completely absent from the show despite being the most common rank of veteran brotherhood members. Paladins are senior officers, like a major or colonel. They lead missions of entire teams. A paladin and an initiate wouldnt be on their own unless they were desperate. A Paladin would lead a 10 man team under normal circumstances. Then theres Star Paladins, who are your most senior combat troops, they usually oversee training and operations and will conduct campaigns. Then you have sentinels. Almost never seen, and a rank only awarded to heroes of the brotherhood. It is not uncommon for there to not be a single one for years at a time. Only after all that, do you have elders and high elders. To be an elder is frankly just a matter of surviving past 60. To be a high elder means you must be appointed by the elders. The brotherhood have always had a sense for ceremony, but they were never a total religion like in the show.
@@theduke7539For the Mojave Chapter of the brotherhood I can somewhat chalk them up to use plasma and energy weapons because they are forced into hiding after operation sunburst at Helios One and forced into the Hidden Vally Bunkers with no plan of reinforcement or help and the fact that their previous elder disappeared they would resort to just hoarding all the tech, but I will agree the Shows Brotherhood turned into a almost cult with religious elements is a little strange
@RodneySharp-wi4yv Imagine if you spent years of your life investing in a place, watching it grow from a dusty, beleaguered hovel beset by countless dangers to a thriving nation that promised to bring the light of civilization to a broken world... and then, one day, some jack ass said "Let's just invalidate EVERYTHING from the last few decades and start over sonee can cater to normies!" All your investment, time, work, energy, devotion... gone. And for what? The lie that is "The modern audience."
@@Meloncolliepoet What is starting over? One place got nuked, the NCR isn't gone. The same scene people are freaking out about LITERALLY has a sign saying that shady sands was the 'FIRST' NCR capitol, implying there are more. Just let the story finish before saying that it ruined the lore lol.
@@OpheliaBusenbark Mark my words. Season 2 will not only hammer the final nail into the NCR, it will also completely and utterly invalidate everything that happened in New Vegas. The game is dead. Face it.
Can't like this because Bethesda is killing fallout lore and a majority of fans agree...not the zombie lord of the flys fans but the fans who actually play the game,read the books,do the meet ups and those who fight the good fight...does epic nate care about that? Hell no...he only cares about the fan fair and likes
@@NigelMarmaladedouble hard to respect it when it's a mediocre TV show. And not some immersive experience like the game. People will watch any crap on TV nowadays though. Far easier and more profitable to lore dump in a TV show. Of course the first episode had a sex scene. Anything to hook in those brainlet TV viewers.
@@SurvivenTerry nate was invited to official bethesda events, met Todd Howard. He would be the last one to critique them. Saw this in the halo community as well with 343i. Lots of shills in their good graces.
Destroying the NCR was such a stupid, tasteless move from Bethesda. Clearly they don't understand what made fallout New Vegas so magical, or they did and just wanted to shit all over it.
Listen it wasnt bethesda alone it was the show writer who came up with the idea daddy todd even said oof why so dont blame them alone mush as i hate em to somethimes dont blame em for something that wasnt their ideaa at the 1st place
I hate that we're getting lore dumps in a medicore show, than a new SINGLE PLAYER fallout game. It's been 10 years since fallout 4, like 16 years since TES V Skyrim. And we got Starflop and a mid fallout TV show before fallout 5 and TES:6 Pretty much have accepted fallout 4 was the last bethesda game I enjoyed
@@Ayem427 Cali back in the 50's and 60's was absolutely amazing, a great culture, a ton of really cool celebs who loved meeting people (especially their fans) and it was clean and _not covered in human shit_
Thanks for taking the time to break down such a lengthy subject! I wish this video existed back when the show came out for the new fans 😅 but it's here now, and you all did a great job
I’ve been up for like 30 hours haha. I’ll see ya gremlins tomorrow when I wake up to check the comments 👈👈😎
Get some sleep man you deserve it!
Sleep well pookie bear
You are officially my most favorite TH-camr, bro you make the best videos
Only 30 hours? Todd Howard stays up 45 hours a day every day. No wonder you're falling off.
I appreciate you ❤
"If the legion breaks through our defenses, I've got one bullet I'm saving just for me" - Every other NCR Trooper
We won’t go quietly. The legion can count on that
@@CallofFreaky i mean... the gunshot will make a noise lol
@@loyalistmundicomedentisdux9538 That’s such an ominous line 🥺
Better dead than a slave to the red
New Vegas was the best fallout. I'd love to see a New Vegas 2.
Bro is makin movies now, the videos were long but the intro and whole animation style is absolutely amazing, props
No. Now he's making shitty history videos. We already have Dan Carlin for epic history. Dude needs to go back to gaming but don't think his heart is in it anymore
Considering how suicidal most of the NCR soldier were during the battle of Hoover dam, I'm surprised they survived that long
The first battle or second?
Uh i think they just don’t want to be tortured
Or the battle of Helios 1. Apparently they had a lot of casualties there, too
Well if they lost the dam there wouldn’t be an NCR anymore
@@CallofFreaky not necessarily. You do realize they still hold all of southern California at least
“There is no future in the Bear or Bull. The Bear is diseased, barely clings to life. And the Bull… when the Legion reaches the sea, it will turn on itself and die. Killing one will end both.”
It was so diseased...that they had to nuke it's capital to stop it.
Why people take Ulysses seriously is beyond me. He's just a dude that deals with the hurt he was dealt with by trying to justify it somehow...and the way he chooses is bullshit.
“Bear Bull Bear Bull Bear Bull Bear Bull” suck my Anti-Material Rifle Ulysses. I ain’t listening to all that
@@James-thefogiscomingwait a second he’s definitely onto something don’t do that 😭
@@danlaskey6743 let em cook lmao
Ulysses is a self important narcissistic blowhard. I literally just finished NV, including Lonesome Road. Ulysses literally just saw us delivering a package and created a huge fanfic backstory in his head about us from just that one act. Then created a huge elaborate scheme to nuke the enemy of the clan that destroyed his own family. You think he would want to destroy the Legion, but nope. We're only given that option at the end once we deal with Ulysses.
"Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter" -every NCR patrolman ever
even the desk workers be saying that
Well, they got their wish.
Can confirm, the Mojave is not meant for human habitation.
using phrases like " records on the subject are murky, all we know is that there's a second Battle of Hoover dam" etc. It's just really great because it keeps the immersion going and makes it feel like you're watching a documentary while still keeping the ambiguous player chosen stuff about the lore up to the viewer of the video / player. It's a really creative and stylish way of writing that I always look forward two for these videos. Keep up the great work, looking forward to more :)
There's another fallout lore youtuber called Synonymous who does this too it leaves it open to the viewer, while still explaining everything.
or, and here me out now, its because the next season of the fallout show, according to the hollywood pansy ass big wigs, is directly dealing with New Vegas in "film" after the events of the game. They've already adamantly maintained that the show is canon to the entirety of fallout ruling like 75% of the Sole Survivor's and Courier's endings nonexistent. By the Prydwen being in tact it means that either the Sole Survivor went with the Brotherhood or Minutemen, and from just the brief that we've seen of New Vegas it seems that either House's ending or NCR's ending are canon. My bet is going to be on a variation of House's ending for FNV because then the libshit producers can say "muh capitalism bad and everything needs to be a 1:1 vote" and somehow Lucy is gonna kill/disable House and the courier is gonna fuck off back to the divide or conveniently be in the Big Empty while this is all going on.
@@rougeofda21stcenturybreathe dude
Deliberately pretending past games are in a permanent lore limbo is unironically worse than choosing a canon ending for past games. The “canon” takes away absolutely nothing from your individual experience playing the game and you’re crying about a non issue right now.
@@Koifin3 if you’re replying to me, yes, the canon endings matter. Eventually, Bethesda is going to run out of actual interesting places for us to visit or see and old locations are going to have to be reused. If we revisit New Vegas, The Capitol Wastes, or The Commonwealth any point in the future timelines, certain aspects are going to have to be established for the game to function on a storytelling level. They can’t retconn everything (Jet) and expect players not to notice or just go with it without serious backlash, and the more blatant it is, the more that backlash will be.
Player agency is the biggest complaint with Fallout 4, and is the biggest reason why it is objectively the most disliked fallout. If players didn’t care about what’s canon and what isn’t, this wouldn’t be a complaint.
One head may be struck down, but the other will bite and fight until the end. The NCR shall not fade quietly into the night.
The NCR is quite literally just like the United States, too big to fall even if a single city is destroyed, if DC is destroyed for example there is still government and command structure elsewhere. The sign also says the FIRST capital of the NCR implying after New Vegas it was moved, possibly to a bigger city
@@Ranger_Brutus
This is some NeoCon level coping ngl. The whole point of the NCR is that they are a corrupt state repeating the mistakes of the former US. Too big to fall? Nothing is too big to fall.
hell yeah, we will not fall quietly. NCR for life.
We'll always have something the Legion doesn't. Super cool ranger armor
@@Ranger_Brutus Not really in how the wasteland is, the reason why most of the massive empires before travel got faster collapsed was due to lack of the ability to effectively enforce the capitals rule. The US has the benefit on not existing in that era and not getting massive till about the invention of the telegraph.
Learning more about President Kimball makes me feel not so bad for murdering him in so many playthroughs tbh lmao
Kimball showing us once again what is so prevalent through history and fiction: Great military leaders don't necessarily make for good statesmen.
Not sure NCR education will cover how much of the pre-war history. If not, let's just say that much of its voter base could be easily manipulated by political campaigns.
Skyrim Legion:
Then there's Karl Franz, Prince and Emperor. We ignore End Times
Also Napoleon, but he had help from other people
@@Brother_O4TS Yes but that's why we remember them. They were exceptions, not the norm.
I recently played Fallouts 1 and 2 for the first time and they really enhance New Vegas. It's one thing to know the lore of the NCR but it's another thing to be in Shady Sands and in the other settlements and see how the future nation grew little by little. It's pretty surreal that the NCR arose from an isolated farming community and settlements like Junktown, The Hub and the LA Boneyard which had all of these internal problems but were able to overcome them
Uniting LA should be seen as a miracle
Vault 15, home of the NCR
My man. I have played all numbered Fallout games as they came out. New Vegas enhances the entire series.
Man good time. When the show had it nuked I was sad. I helped the town grow into the ncr. Made it longer than most apocalypse civilizations.
Always an impressive achievement given how miserable the first 2 games were to actually play, even by the standards of their time.
Fantastically done. The allegory of American politics, is laid out as simply as anyone could ask, and a modestly excellent primer for the Fallout show season 2. Excellent. I'm proud of your work here, and thankful for the many hours of free Skyrim and Fallout lore content that preceded it. Keeping myself and other's thinking of our favourite fantasy on lonely nights, and revealing secrets otherwise not connected. It may be a bit much, but truly a magnum so far.
Fallout show 🤢🤮
I need to make this clear, this is by far the best fallout lore video ever made. I truly believe this, you really outdone yourself Nate. Telling it like it’s actual history is perfect and the editing is perfect. I hope to see more videos like this. Keep up the great work.
Let’s all give Nate a huge round of applause for the amazing performance over these great couple of years! Thanks so much for all of the great content and entertainment! 🎉
"Dollars were not backed by nothing but faith in a republic."
That's wild imagine if we had such a crazy system in place today! /s
Crazy how they predicted California and USA today.
All the jet in fallout couldn’t keep me up for 30 hours. You’re a dedicated artist.
Nate! This is one of the best Fallout video I have ever watched.
You can see the love and care you put into your research and video making. Keep up the amazing work.
Wow I’ve been looking everyday for a new video and it’s finally here! And a banger as always🙏🏼
Dude this video quality is insanely good, keep up the work nate, cannot wait to see what you come up with in the future!
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish a new TheEpicNate video.
This is not meant to be a hate comment this is meant to be a parody of the meme "patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter".
I can't tell if this is a hate comment or not
This comment needs further editing to be read more clearly.
I liked/appreciated it.
What's up guys! It's your boy! Here to day to talk to you about how this is a historic comment! Ready to tell you FUTURE historians that THIS comment and comment responses is a TOTALLY.. ABSOLUTE PRODUCT OF ITS TIME.....
@@Billyboi76 haha it was a funny comment no offense taken!
Honestly, learning its history has just made me love the NCR more. Despite its mistakes, its still really my favorite faction in fallout, kinda hoping it gets a resurgence in later material.
so glad you made a vid like this i’ve been needing a full ncr docuvid to show my friends who’ve never played fallout why the show had me genuinely tweaking
The Brotherhood has been on the path to becoming the antagonists of the series for a while now. It's only a matter of time before they go beyond the point of no return
You said the correct word. Time is their greatest ally along with those who went into hiding like the enclave and the khans while being the NCR's and Legion's mortal common enemy.
Your videos are usually great but this one felt like you turned things up to 11!
The intro in particular was very cool and felt well polished ❤
Oh, man! Nate put up something new so now I have to watch this... thanks a bunch!!!
Thanks for giving me something to listen to at work!!!! Love the videos!!!
Been waiting for a video like this after the show ! Great job Nate thanks for staying up bro !
damn man you been putting in work on these recent videos. loving the hustle but dont burn yourself out bro!
I don’t think the NCR is dead, i think they are just going through a Minuteman Arc. Indecision, massive losses, being stretched too thin, and ineffective leadership caused the first iteration to die, but it will definitely rise again. With Cold Fusion lighting and warming Los Angeles and possibly beyond, the NCR Remnants can use this old world power…to begin again.
Meta Talk: Honestly i think the TV Show Season 1 was meant to be the actual ending of the NCR, but they are pulling back on that because that implication wasn’t received well. And it’s a good thing that they are listening to people’s criticisms and opinions. I honestly think Fallout Season 2’s NCR presence will be a late edition because people wanted them to stick around, so they may stand out compared to everything else.
And before you say it, no it wasn’t Todd Howard who wanted Shady Sands to be blown up. He didn’t even write the show, he just advised for lore additions and changes suggested by the actual writers and Showrunners. It was THEIR idea to blow up Shady Sands, and apparently Todd was actually apprehensive to approve it at first.
Ironically it was an original Pre-Bethesda Fallout Writer, Chris Avellone, who wanted this too, as he ironically holds opinions everyone accuses Bethesda of having: Chris wanted Shady Sands nuked in an effort to weaken them and create new chaos because if large swaths of land became solidified Civilizations, it wouldn’t really be a Fallout Story anymore, would it?
Despite getting what he wanted, Chris Avellone hates the Show due to petty reasons lol
Chris Avellone is a level designer, not a writer. But yes he did in fact wanted to nuke the NCR but Bethesda said no.
@@elvis5008he was a writer. He was also the project lead on the New Vegas DLCs. Nice attempt at spreading misinformation.
The cope in this comment is huge. Vagueness leads to the darkside. Making up lore to justify poor decision making.
Just curious, why does he hate the show for petty reasons?
@@callmelance4094 Look up his review of the show. Its pretty lengthy but it paints a clear picture that the writers of the show didn't research the lore that well.
That was fantastic, Nate! The later portions could use some editing- I know you probably can't show stuff from the Amazon show, but during the portions explaining the events of the show, having some B-roll footage instead of just the Caesar throne would probably help a little- I honestly thought the video on my tablet was fouled up for some reason. But the research here, the enormous amount of detail and the obvious love for the material... edits aside, this is probably the best video you've done yet. Loved every minute, thank you!
Well done Nate. This is awesome. I love deep lore dives like this. Great work by everyone 👍👍
I just shouted outside my building window in NYC "TheEpicNate dropped another video!", and someone responded with "Fallout or Skyrim?!"
Lol
Nobody said that Lil bro
@@dudeydude354 As the guy that shouted "fallout or Skyrim?!" I think somebody said that little bro.
@@chesemydude nuh uh Lil bro
@@dudeydude354yeah huh lil bro then everyone clapped
This really helped clear up a few things for me, specifically why the NCR cared so desperately about gold mining in Redding in Fallout 2. I know there's a whole campaign in Redding, and that the NCR wanted access to the mines but I didn't internalize that NCR had moved to the gold standard.
this is just a wonderful video and made just in time for the second season of the Fallout show and tells the history of the Iconic NCR very clearly. Another great video under your belt Nate.
Great to see you upload again Nate. Hope all is well.
Nate, Nate never changes. Always top tier content!
Somehow, this video seems particularly timely considering the state of things in a certain location.
Honestly, just considering the state of things in general
Is something going on in California?
@@RustyIv Sadly, there always is.
The courier had something to say about the whole Hoover Dam situation. And what he did, who knows.
I suspect we'll find out in S2 of the fallout show. But hey, that's just a theory. A game theory!
@@Miss_TrilliumYou get a downvote for making a MatPat reference. No favors for that plagiarist and hack.
The cannon ending to the battle of Hoover Damn is that the sierra madre’s cloud engulfed both it and new Vegas after the tunnel era began burrowing into them leading to the city and damn being abandoned
@@CloakofAuronWhat did MatPat do?
@@CloakofAuron bruh is seething over a reference to a children's slop creator💀
This was so interesting to watch! Loved how you explored fallout lore.
ITS NATE HES FUCKEN BACK LETS GOOOO
Doing this in the context of a historical documentary is just perfect.
...and when humanity needed him most, Nate returned.
You know what's ironic?
Everyone always points out that the Legion can only last as long as Ceasar is alive and in power - I think even Joshua Graham said when he dies, the Legion dies with it.
But the same could be said for the NCR. When Tandy and her father died, the glue that held it together became brittle. It limped along for a while, but after Hoover Dam? It fell apart. Without the Aradesh family holding it together, the NCR lasted about as long as the Legion.
There's something very sad about that - regardless of the intent, without the charisma of their leaders these big groups just fall apart...
All it took was time which is the main apex predator that ended great civilizations throughout history and the TV show got it right. Even in the far east the Commonwealth Provisional Government didn't get a chance to be glued together to assemble it.
And now they make self checkout machines at Walmart. Woooow.
Criminally underrated comment here
In my country theres macchines like that since a lot of years
Nate, I've been watching your content for some time now but holy hekkin atom dude, you nailed it this time. Far better than I expected and any of your past videos.
I feel like people who started with Fallout 1/2 have a much different view than people that started with Bethesda NCR.
Long time fan of your Elder Scrolls work ☺and just barely got into Fallout 😊I love listening to your videos, because you can tell how much work you put into them!
This has been a fantastic year for Nate vids
Thank you for all your hard work Nate .
I would honestly love for the next fallout game to be set in California.
There's already so much great lore to base a story in. It could be set in a time after the NCR has fragmented and fallen apart.
Perfect to listen to while I work away, thanks again Nate.
The fact that they combined the boneyard and shady sands into one city is a crime.
The fact that Fallout 1 put LA in the completely wrong place than where it is IRL is a crime.
@@markricheard1870 huh
@@markricheard1870 Shady Sands isn't a real place IRL lol? I'm talking about how the boneyard and shady sands are two completely different cities in the lore.
Shady sands isn’t at the boneyard in the show?? We haven’t even seen the boneyard itself?
@@LewisB3217 the boneyard is los angeles you dunce. The whole show takes place in LA hence the final battle.
New fallout lore video to fall asleep to on a Friday? Is it Christmas already🤩
Babe, get the popcorn a new Nate video just dropped!
From the game FNV itself tells us about the NCR, it was not doing good back home, to the point the NCR losing at Hoover Dam would in my opinion do the NCR more good in the long run then a victory.
THE NCR FLAG WILL NEVER FALL ‼️‼️‼️
Internal corruption will eventually cause it to fall
@@Imperial.Soldier what corruption? The Brahmin barons??
@@LewisB3217Bruh
Aaand the cucks are going wild with the terrible TV series hype!
The Brahmin barons Regaining power is due to people, losing faith in the NCR due to the corruption and its failing currency system. Go play through new Vegas and listen to the political discussions
‘that is a story for another day’ rip Jason Damron
Two things. First have you legitimately managed to run out of fallout and elder scrolls mysteries? Like I just want to know, cuz that's a damn hard task to accomplish and if you have that's a lifetime achievement.
Second, I really enjoyed essentially getting a documentary from inside the fallout universe about the New California Republic. This was a real neat change of pace from your normal stuff. There's just something charming about seeing a huge mystery from the in-universe perspective.
Nate has been the only consistent constant thing in my life
Great video man. The NCR had a lot of problems like corruption,being spread to thin, crop problems and a growing legion they seemed to been doomed at some point.
Then where is the legion?
@@CommunistHydraI’m going to go ahead and say the legion did lose but get pushed back. Because the legion is based off of the Roman republic a new person claiming to be an emperor will step up. Im actually hoping we see them next season
@@scotty5789 I'm going to paraphrase Marcus and Joshua Graham. Only Ceasar can lead the legion, the legion is doomed once he dies. Chief Hanlon agrees when you tell him that Caesar is dead, thats why he agrees to stop sabotaging the NCR in the return to sender quest. But hey, I'm just using established lore. Feel free to theorize.
The NCR is better off than the legion, that’s why the legion is dead and the ncr isn’t
@@scotty5789 the legion is based on Caesar, it’s a cult of personality. It’s not based the rest of Rome, when Caesar dies, the tribes will tear each other apart without their leader, and that’s likely what happened since no one helped Caesar with his tumor
Patrolling the youtube recommended almost makes you wish for an EpicNate history video.
I love how this video is exactly 1:13:23 and not a second longer.
That was the perfect time to stop the video, good call Nate. 👏
An hour long video at 2am ? fuck it we ball.
my man. thanks for uploading me and my friends were just talking about your vids a while ago
NO WAY HE'S BACK
“We are so back!”-Nate when he dropped this video
Hey Nate it’s guys here. Love receiving new videos from you 👍
I think you meant to say 2150s instead of 2050s when referencing the master and what he did
just asked the sane question.
“Wait guys, I have a question, I kmow that the Master was alive before the great war (2077) but how did he “began mustering an army of these creatures in late 50’s” if Richard Moreau (Master) left his vault in 2092 (When the Vault opened in 2092) Is he meaning 50’s like 2150? Because this would make sense “the Master transferred his command, along with his immense and pervasive body, to the vault.” Thank you for responses in advance. 😊”
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish you save one bullet just for yourself, you can count on that
No.. I will never accept it, THE NCR WILL NEVER FALL!
YEAHH BOI damn dude your production quality has gone crazy great job
I love how the old Fallout games (plus New Vegas, since that was made by the original devs) had a universe that didn't stay stagnant, it actually evolved over time. Whereas the Bethesda ones it seems like everything is still pretty much the same 200 years on. It's boring world building.
As a Californian, this level of painstaking devoted attention to my glorious people will get you everywhere
Fallout fans are more patriotic than the ncr troops stationed in the Mojave lmao
Absolutely brilliant work Nate. Insane how the views aren’t at least 4x higher
I'm relieved that someone managed to tie the TV show to the games in a relatively coherent way.
The fact that a TH-camr has to do the job of show writers shows that it shouldn't be tied to game lore
Great video, honestly, I can tell you really put a lot of work into various aspects, but...
Some constructive criticisms that I'll probably get some shit for, lol:
You mixed up "2050's" with "2150's" multiple times early on when discussing Fallout 1 and the Master.
Also, I am almost 100% certain that House didn't know the day the bombs would drop. It was just bad timing/bad luck that the Platinum Chip was due to arrive on October 24th and the bombs hit on the 23rd. House didn't know the bombs would drop on the 23rd; he did know they would inevitably be coming sooner rather than later though. If he did know, I don't think he'd have risked the Platinum Chip arriving anywhere near the 23rd. That'd be incredibly out-of-character for him. He was as blindsided as most everyone else.
Also, more than "a bomb or two" made it through House's defenses. Even a cursory Google search can confirm it was 9 warheads. This is easily accessible information that I'm a little surprised you didn't do your homework on. I've noticed details like this get glossed over in some of your videos, but, this is a very easy one to check, unless you deliberately kept it vague as part of the storytelling.
House was also in a coma for several decades after the Great War and not necessarily spending all 200 years combing the wasteland for the Platinum Chip as implied in the video around 1:00:00.
I imagine the higher-than-normal amount of dislikes is over missed details like this. I think the script for this video needed another pass through. The last ten minutes consisting of a few mostly static images also makes it feel like the ending/script was rushed to hit a deadline.
Also, the NCR may still exist minus Shady Sands. I think jumping to the conclusion that they're totally wiped out is a tad premature?
I know it's nearly an hour and a half, but, quality and all that. Despite the length of this comment, trust me, you did well.
There's also a few incidents of east/west being mixed up, but, that's more minor to me than the other stuff.
Just some notes I'm making as I listen. Good video otherwise, I know it's quite the endeavor and I don't mean this as hate.
The NCR Never dies fuck what that rascal todd says 😭
I feel that them trying to destroy the NCR is just as worse as their original idea to decanonize the older games, it literally erases everything the past games established for their "new vision" of the West Coast... it's a crime, fortunately the massive blowback had Todd and Emil backtrack their stupid idea of destroying the NCR, they learned the hard way NCR fans are just as passionate as other faction fans.
@@Ranger_Brutus NCR is still around. Blow up SS blows up the biggest civilized stronghold in the region. NCR retreats to its other hub states, leaving the survivors to return to their raider routes, dying as raiders or as the raided, and probably a mad dash to NV resulting in NCR control collapsing. The organized survivors we see in Moldaver and the Vault are fanatical for Shady Sands and the NCR.
@@Ranger_BrutusChris Avellone a lead designer on fallout 2 and new Vegas wanted the ncr to be destroyed although I doubt his opinion had any impact on the show
@@Ranger_Brutus The idea to destroy shady sands was that of the showrunners, not Todd's or Bethesda. Stop spreading misinformation because you're slaty.
They literally said the NCR isn’t dead, shady sands is gone, but that is only 1 town, and not even the NCR Capitol anymore
At around 8:22 you say The Master started transforming people in the late 2050’s but the bombs don’t drop till 2077. Is this an error?
It is always a good day when a new video comes out on nates channel
In Vault 15 / NCR, women were considered equal. I guess muslims were not part of the diverse and peaceful coexistence experiment of that vault. Wonder why that would be?
Because it’s fiction and that means they can do what they’d like with it, don’t be a racist.
@@RodneySharp-wi4yv I didn't know that muslim was a race. You're not very bright, are you?
What does this have to do with fallout
@@OpheliaBusenbark Did you not watch the video? Guess not, it's pretty clear what that has to do with this area in Fallout.
Videos like this. This is why you are the best. Hands down!
Grabbing the popcorn for the "Fall" part.
Hail Caesar!
The NCR hasn’t “fallen”. Although they lost their first Capitol, they apparently may have multiple, and we’ll likely be seeing them again in S2 of show, great video though!
“However, Todd Howard assured us that we haven't "heard the last of the NCR", and this is a sentiment that showrunners Graham Wagner and Geneva Robertson-Dworet share.”
I was SO PISSED when the Fallout show destroyed Shady Sands. Am I the only one who needs more NCR armor screentime?
It's a good day any day Epic Nate drops a vid. Much love and appreciation my guy.
This new lore is, frankly, bullshit.
Just sounds like a bad DM's "rocks fall, everybody dies" asspull.
In the show then implying that “the fall of shady sands” the FIRST capital implies that most likely Vegas or some other city is their 2nd capital, kinda like how caesar said it would be his Rome
Love this guy's lore videos, I am surprised he hasn't touched the Fall-Out show yet.
I refuse to accept the TV show as apart of the same canon as the video games. It is as different to the established fallout canon as the 2009 JJ Star Trek was from the original 1966 TOS Star Trek. to try and link the show to the games is a fruitless and painful attempt at covering clear oversights by show writers who never played the games or cared about the established lore.
Refuse or not, canon is canon lol
@@samsizer2919Bethesda butchered so much about the NCR that’s it’s essentially a different NCR than in the games. So it’s safe to say that it’s a different timeline, or Bethesda writers are complete idiots.
@samsizer2919 so, vault 4 was no where near shady sands in the games, to the point that it didnt even exist in the NCR and its location was unknown. Shady Sands was very far south of LA basically right next to vault 15 which is no where in the show. Shady sands was a village in the northern baja region, close to the US mexico border. In the show, its literally in the LA ruins.
In the games, the NCR has 6 states with a population of over 700,000 by 2281. and thats a conservative estimate given that the NCR doesnt have a great census board. in the show, they nukes shady sands, the capital, but not even the largest city in the NCR, and somehow the entire NCR collapsed? You expect me to believe you could nuke DC alone and the US would collapse?
The brotherhood of the show are entirely different as is their gear. The west coast brotherhood did not have T60 power armor as that wasnt recovered until the East coast chapter salvaged the blueprints to the T60 in the commonwealth in 2284. All T60 suits are post war refits of T45 except for a handful of prewar surviving suits that are scattered around the commonwealth and Appalachia. The Prydwen as of 2288 was in Boston, and theres no way that by 2296, just 8 years, Maxson had managed to stabilize the east coast holdings enough to send her all the way west. Meaning her plans must have been sent, but it took 5 years to gather the supplies and 2 years to build, and thats even with captured enclave equipment making the construction faster. So why does the west coast have a prydwen class airship when they should have none or their own class. Why does the brotherhood use the modular assault rifle from the commonwealth instead of the plasma rifles and plasma casters they used in the Mojave? Why have the ranks been completely jumbled? Squires in the games are children born to the brotherhood. Outsiders trying to join like Maximus are supposed to be called Aspirants until they are officially recruited, at which point they are granted the rank of Initiate. Not Squire. Initiates are both raw recruits and the lower foot soldiers of the brotherhood, NOT the man servants of paladins. Once an Initiate proves themselves worthy, they are granted the rank of Knight OR are moved to the Scribes. The scribes can be engineers, medics, demolitions, pilots, lancers, researchers, scientists, archivists, etc. Knights act as junior officers or NCOs, some get power armor as a Knight. Depends on their mission. Knights are almost completely absent from the show despite being the most common rank of veteran brotherhood members. Paladins are senior officers, like a major or colonel. They lead missions of entire teams. A paladin and an initiate wouldnt be on their own unless they were desperate. A Paladin would lead a 10 man team under normal circumstances. Then theres Star Paladins, who are your most senior combat troops, they usually oversee training and operations and will conduct campaigns. Then you have sentinels. Almost never seen, and a rank only awarded to heroes of the brotherhood. It is not uncommon for there to not be a single one for years at a time.
Only after all that, do you have elders and high elders. To be an elder is frankly just a matter of surviving past 60. To be a high elder means you must be appointed by the elders. The brotherhood have always had a sense for ceremony, but they were never a total religion like in the show.
@@theduke7539For the Mojave Chapter of the brotherhood I can somewhat chalk them up to use plasma and energy weapons because they are forced into hiding after operation sunburst at Helios One and forced into the Hidden Vally Bunkers with no plan of reinforcement or help and the fact that their previous elder disappeared they would resort to just hoarding all the tech, but I will agree the Shows Brotherhood turned into a almost cult with religious elements is a little strange
I needed this right now ! Thank you
Ridiculous that the "Fall of the NCR" is even a thing. Why did Bethesda have to ruin my favorite game series 😞
Hello I'm a long time subscriber just wanted to let you know how much I have loved your content over the years
Say what you will, but I will never accept that travesty of a tv show as cannon, and Bethesda will never get my money ever again.
What was so bad about the show?
@RodneySharp-wi4yv Imagine if you spent years of your life investing in a place, watching it grow from a dusty, beleaguered hovel beset by countless dangers to a thriving nation that promised to bring the light of civilization to a broken world... and then, one day, some jack ass said "Let's just invalidate EVERYTHING from the last few decades and start over sonee can cater to normies!"
All your investment, time, work, energy, devotion... gone. And for what? The lie that is "The modern audience."
@@Meloncolliepoet What is starting over? One place got nuked, the NCR isn't gone. The same scene people are freaking out about LITERALLY has a sign saying that shady sands was the 'FIRST' NCR capitol, implying there are more. Just let the story finish before saying that it ruined the lore lol.
@@OpheliaBusenbark Mark my words. Season 2 will not only hammer the final nail into the NCR, it will also completely and utterly invalidate everything that happened in New Vegas. The game is dead. Face it.
Good. Can't wait to see obsidian neckbeard chodes skibbidy themselves for it.
This is the GOAT 🐐 of Fallout Channels and Nate is Epic 🤘🏻😂
Can't like this because Bethesda is killing fallout lore and a majority of fans agree...not the zombie lord of the flys fans but the fans who actually play the game,read the books,do the meet ups and those who fight the good fight...does epic nate care about that? Hell no...he only cares about the fan fair and likes
Yup, hard to like the new "lore" when all it does is destroy
@@NigelMarmaladedouble hard to respect it when it's a mediocre TV show. And not some immersive experience like the game.
People will watch any crap on TV nowadays though. Far easier and more profitable to lore dump in a TV show.
Of course the first episode had a sex scene. Anything to hook in those brainlet TV viewers.
@manz7860 it's not just that either, it's the fact a show that can't get the decades of established lore right is being retconed and decided by it.
@@SurvivenTerry nate was invited to official bethesda events, met Todd Howard.
He would be the last one to critique them. Saw this in the halo community as well with 343i. Lots of shills in their good graces.
Wow, really? What the hell even is this comment? lmao. I'm giving Nate some shit for the plethora of errors in this but... REALLY?
Holy crap, man. This video is on another level. Well done.
Destroying the NCR was such a stupid, tasteless move from Bethesda. Clearly they don't understand what made fallout New Vegas so magical, or they did and just wanted to shit all over it.
Listen it wasnt bethesda alone it was the show writer who came up with the idea daddy todd even said oof why so dont blame them alone mush as i hate em to somethimes dont blame em for something that wasnt their ideaa at the 1st place
Yup. And prepare for even more dumb and tasteless decisions to follow in season 2.
I hate that we're getting lore dumps in a medicore show, than a new SINGLE PLAYER fallout game.
It's been 10 years since fallout 4, like 16 years since TES V Skyrim. And we got Starflop and a mid fallout TV show before fallout 5 and TES:6
Pretty much have accepted fallout 4 was the last bethesda game I enjoyed
No, they did not want to shit all over New Vegas. What is with this conspiracy shit? lol. The NCR wasn't destroyed, just one city.
The ncr was not destroyed. Blowing up one major area doesn't make an entire govermnment evaporate.
Fallout has taught us 2 things War has never changed and Greed gets us no where.
This is actually happening IRL too, in the 50's Cali was _the_ place to be, but now? Please don't go to California
Was it tho? The 50's weren't exactly great, and if I had to exist then I'd rather be on the East Coast where the culture is just better
@@Ayem427 Cali back in the 50's and 60's was absolutely amazing, a great culture, a ton of really cool celebs who loved meeting people (especially their fans) and it was clean and _not covered in human shit_
Seattle as well
@@xXBaphometXx666 and Portland, I was there pre pandemic and it was really nice, I went back a few months ago and it’s absolutely disgusting now
California is fine, chuds stay away 😂
Thanks for taking the time to break down such a lengthy subject! I wish this video existed back when the show came out for the new fans 😅 but it's here now, and you all did a great job
>20 years of lore
>obliterated in three hours by Amazon
Awesome.
Are you really surprised? Look at what they did with lotr.