I think it's super cool and empathetic of the kids to support him. Sure, they're glad to be alive, but a wrong was done to that man, and it's nice to see that they aren't taking it personally.
@@StopWhining491 I'd be requesting a DNA test from partners. I wonder how many they've found now that it's a few years later! Wouldn't be so bad if they were in other states, but the fact that they are all probably living in the same state is wild.
Yes and that's a very realistic problem as well because there has been studies that you are much more likely to fall for someone at first sight who has the sorts of genetic similarities to you... That's why family relationships are so taboo. And it's also why they're stories like the Oedipus complex. There are documentary That cover this kind of stuff and it's really messed up... Especially since so many parents don't tell their kids the truth they won't even know to look out for half-siblings. There are tons of stories of half-siblings and cousins and young mothers giving kids up for adoption and and later marrying them it's a real problem and sperm banks shouldn't make it worse.
That already happen. There was a story on CNN a day ago. The lady slept with her half- brother in high school. At the time, neither knew they were donor conceived.
They are literally forcing 10 year old girls to give birth to their father's, brother's, uncle's and really anyone's fetus. Do you really think they care about incess?
Because parent are SELFISH. They only thought about what they wanted at that time. They didn't care to consider the child would be an adult one day and want to know who they were.
@@lifewithdeedee3392 I don’t need to be. Not being honest with your children just leads to trust issues and hostility. I would feel betrayed and upset if I’m just finding out such life altering information when I’m halfway through my 20s.
@@jessicapearson9479 i don’t care if it’s anonymous. It’s the fact they led the child to believe they were genetically linked to their dad into adulthood which is so not right.
And I don't get why the parents were crying when telling Ani that he was conceived using a donor, I just don't get why it's shameful :o you made the decision to do ivf, why aren't you proud of it? Why can't you talk about it with one of the people who it concerns? I'll maybe empathize with someone discomfort and shame in this situation but not truly understand why you could go through with it but never speak a word about it.
@@kayc421 ... It's literally not a choice, he is their biological father ... And why would it blow up his life? ... They are adults, if you are busy you say you are busy. Organize to meet when there is time, and make the best of it.... These are not kids.
Just imagine, 17 siblings in the same area? Say they each have 2 or 3 kids. That's 30 to 50 people in the area who are 1st cousins and DON'T KNOW. That shit severely fucks with the gene pool. I'm glad he's seeking legal action to get some kind of regulations put in place because that's legit scary to think about.
Regulations don’t mean anything when the donor pool is so small compared to the entire country. On a mass scale this would lead to inbreeding. What a great idea. Not like that hasn’t held countries back for hundreds of years.
Any man who donates ought to be on a national registry. Anytime a child is born from a donor's sperm that should go on the national registry. It needs to be made easy to find and keep track of your genetic siblings. Infertility doctors ought to be on a DNA registry so that donor fraud can be found early. Include IVF because fraud can happen there, too.
So you want a child to consent to have their DNA on file with the government? Yeah that’s a pass… as a law abiding citizen my DNA should only be somewhere that I give consent…
@@moiaddy1yes so my dna can be collected from me as a child without my consent and used by the government for whatever purpose the deem appropriate… that’s a big no
The one woman said her kids will have to get DNA tests on the people they are dating to make sure they arent siblings... That is so sad and so true. These clinics are screwing with generations of people. Imagine the grandkids of these people, there could be hundreds of them. First cousins will definitely end up marrying not knowing they are related.
@@beverlyarcher3744 at that point they would be second cousins, so they wouldn't be at risk of having any birth defects or anything. Still gross though for sure..
I’m about to be a father and I almost donated sperm myself. You can see that all of them have green eyes and have the same keen intelligence and curiosity he has. The eldest has his nose. I’m amazed at how they all look. Madi is BEAUTIFUL.
I was just thinking how good-looking they all were and well-spoken, too. It hasn't hurt the human gene pool, but with so many in one place it could hurt a lot of people. Oversight and new laws are definitely in order.
My dad had kids with other women before he married my mom. He lost touch with them, but we knew they were out there. However, it wasn’t until we were all adults that we finally met up. It’s the most bizarre experience to meet someone who is essentially a total stranger, yet someone to whom you are so closely related. We found out that we are all very much alike in looks and mannerism even have mutual interests and we all get along great together. I have two brothers and three sisters. All of them wonderful people with kids and grandkids.
There was a case years ago where three triplet brothers were separated at birth and adopted out to three different sets of couples in different economic and social statuses. It was done as an experiment to see if a person's upbringing affects their personality. The three brothers final;ly found out about each other, and found they all liked the same things and acted the same.
I met my half-sister first time when we were studying in the same university) for those who wonder how man can loose contact with a child - my dad divorced sisters mom with big scandal, she hindered him to meet her, he didn't persist so they never met again
A father “loses touch” with his children by being a jerk toward, or not bothering with, the mothers. He sounds like an @ss. Pretty amazing that the offspring of such a man are wonderful people. I’m glad they have each other.
So important for there to be a regulation. Like Madi said, they need to make sure that they and their children are not biologically related to the person they are dating. How insane is that to even think about?!?
in iceland due to the small population of an island they actually have a database for people to check if they are closely related before getting down with it 😅
The potential for inter-breeding is such a problem among the small population on the island of Iceland that they have to keep family records and get DNA tested before dating.
I feel this violation is SO gross. How dare they go against the contract they put in place. What a negligent practice that took place. They used this man.
@ThePowerMovesI'm sure they would have at least considered the fact they'd be getting some irate phone calls down the line once the kids ended up accidentally marrying eachother and producing kids with avoidable medical conditions due to inbreeding. Kind of hard to ignore that when anyone and everyone could be a close relative in your local area right?
What's really scary is that biological siblings don't always look alike. In my family there was a redhead, a blond, and two darker browns, and facial features were also not that similar unless you were looking for them.
Wow. This is awful for Bryce, and the idea of related people in a nearby distance to one another. Additionally, the idea of OSHU just deciding to do whatever they wanted, sheesh. really impacts people who would have wanted to contribute.
UPPER CLASS HUMAN TRAFFIKING -------------------------- STEALING BABIES is a thing in America, the British IVF is like an open adoption where the donor is also included as a double parent and it is all up front and there is NO PAYMENT involved. Sometimes career people want kids but cannot raise one ---- like academics, scientists and others that do not plan on children themselves but will donate sperm and eggs and WANT to be included in the child's life HONESTLY
I am an Ashkenazi Jew, and my community is considered an endogamous community (Endogamy refers to a community that is genetically isolated due to religion, geography, culture, or other reasons, such that the group shares much of the same unique genetic material). Because of this, it is overwhelmingly common in my community to get genetic testing done before dating (at least in the orthodox communities), let alone before having kids. It is something that growing up I always knew I would have to do. Hearing from these folks about how the idea that they need to do genetic testing never previously occurred to them is fascinating for me to hear. Also, in the most traditional orthodox Jewish circles, having 6-10 children is normal, and one person I know from school is one of 19. What a cultural difference!
Interesting! So if I may ask a question? If genetic testing is done before dating to be safe (obviously), in the event that it comes up that a couple shares genes? How is this handled? Is it as awkward as I'm imagining or is it just sort of a normal thing for the culture? I'm genuinely curious 😊
ASHKENAZI IS NOT HEBREW NOR SEMETIC THIS IS WHY THEY REFUSE ACTUAL DNA TESTING IN ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT SEMITIC PEOPLES LIKE THE HEBREWS OF AFRICA AND PALESTINIAN PEOPLES MUSLIM CHRISTIAN AND HEBREW. THEY TEST OF ASHKENAZI ANCESTRY BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE AFRICAN ANCESTRY( NORTH AFRICA AND NORTH EASTERN AFRICA AKA THE MIDDLE EAST). YOU ARE KHAZAR CONVERTS YOUR YIDDISH HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH ACTUAL HEBREW BUT THE AFRICAN BANTU LANGUAGE DOES 😉.
Yea because you people get paid by both the US and Isreal for every child born as well as Germany paying for you bastards yet yall can't pay Blacks reparations ? Yall always saying on that happened so long ago yet when was yall enslaved ( actually never) but yall wanna claim the Hebrews of the bible slavery over a 1000 years ago foh. Stop it its a farce dnt believe me believe maimonedes who stated the jew has nothing to do with the ancient Hebrews of the Torah. Yiddish is a Germanic language not SEMETIC
I’m from the same community, so I can answer. We have this thing called for yesharim, basically you get a blood test and the organization will test for recessive genes of deseases that are common, but they won’t tell you what you have so that there is no stygma around desease. They give you a number and if you want to date someone you would both ask the organization if you’re numbers are compatible. If you are then you keep dating, if not then you stop dating and you don’t know who has what desease. People will generally make sure they are compatible early on so there are no heartbreaks if you find out too late.
There needs to be regulation. At least the kids showcase the good temper and good heart of Dr. Bryce. Not the worst genes to be spreading, but this definitely needs to be regulated.
If I were the donor I'd be pissed, imagine being near the end of your life and suddenly 20+ kids come along and want to have some kind of relationship with you. My guess is he probably had forgotten he had even donated and now this mess falls into his lap. 5 mil isn't near enough money, you want to severely punish the medical center that did this and 5 mil is probably a drop in the bucket for them.
Yup, I would ask for 2 millions for each new donor child that keeps poping up. And you're right, poor Bryce; if he had 4 natural born kids of his own, plus 5 stepchildren it looks like the guy really enjoyed being a Dad. But now that he probably thought he was done with fatherhood, all these kids show up at his door. I know they said they didn't wanted a relationship with him but I don't think is completely true, cause they wouldn't have follow the research. At least is good to know the natural son that is his lawyer is trying to be the bridge between both parts
people are weirdly... eugenical, not to use the N-word why would you betray your actual parents to go on some great genetic quest to find the sperm donor (besides, like, learning about diseases or avoiding interbreeding but you don't need to acknowledge the "father" for that) just very icky (the same with the comments here praising the kids for being attractive or correlating it with "good genes" or some kinda "worth of living" (unironical N-word language))
Can you imagine dating someone and you don't find out that they are your sibling or cousin? What if you had a child with them? That child would be born with serious birth defects.
exactly... And people asks why there are so many new birth genetical defects these past 20-30 years, they probably marrying their own siblings without them realizing...
@@naia-gl2nfas someone that was told at probably 7 or 8, it has always been a concern with relationships. Not great on mental health for those that know, but definitely need to find some happy medium.
In my country, there is a law that limits the number of children that are allowed to be concieved via the same donor to three, to prevent situations like this and accidental incest from happening.
What an emotional mess. I'm glad these siblings found each other. I don't know how many grew up believing they were an only child and then discovered they had so many unknown siblings. I hope they all grew up in happy, healthy homes surrounded with love. Obviously, their parents wanted them or they wouldn't have gone through the process of medically assisted pregnancy. I can't imagine the shock Bryce felt when he found out about these children. Hopefully there was some sense of happiness that he was able to help couples who struggled to have a child. But, I agree with his effort to have the system more regulated and transparent is very important. At least the children can be certain that his genetic contribution to their DNA was healthy. Family reunions and holidays just got epic!
If they stay in touch, they will greatly benefit from having a large family when they are seniors. The older we get the more important family becomes…If your siblings are great people, wonderful and kind, it doesn’t matter if they are full siblings or half siblings. They are your siblings. Period!
I totally understand because I have so many friends and family members who died and I'm not in a relationship because I'm just working on myself and recovering from the last bad one... Introspective take care of me some of my life but I have to believe there are other people who are struggling with exactly because baby boomer relatives have died
@@LindaHutchings I hear you. I'm sorry you're in this position. It's not just baby boomers or even the pre-boomers who are passing away. I've outlived several siblings, babies, younger cousins, former classmates, favourite neighbours, friends of all ages, other family members, and that was before losing 6 healthy family members in the past 4 years (none had the cyrus), and over 50 healthy friends and family friends and acquaintances in the past 4 years. Several took their own lives during the past 4 years, but the rest have passed away extremely suddenly and unexpectedly. Many were younger than me, while some were much younger. I was hit by a drunk driver 20 years ago and left disabled and, gotta admit, I always thought I'd pass away long before any of them. I can't afford a pet, am working on me atm; too late for a Relationship, but I'm trying to figure out how to start making friends now. Haven't made a new friend in many, many years. Not quite sure how, but have found several ways that don't work, lol. I've met a lot of people over the past year or so who are struggling with loneliness, loss, etc. Loss of loved ones, jobs, homes, etc. I try to listen and take time with them, and not judge. They seem to appreciate it, and it gets me out of myself for a bit. We're all struggling with something at some point in life. I wish you well.
we found out pretty young that our dad's dad wasn't really his dad. grandma was with someone who she found out was married with children when she told him she was pregnant (in the 40's). i didn't think much of it, we were living in a different state. when we moved back to the same state i started to wonder if anyone in school was related to me. when i started dating i would pretty much get a full family line from them to make sure we weren't related. after doing ancestry i found out someone i nearly dated was related to me, possibly an uncle. we refer to the biological as "sperm donor". apparently him and his other sons were man ho's and didn't think or care about getting anyone pregnant. even though they told the guy the offspring would be on the opposite coast, people move. i know of a woman who gave a child up for adoption in the 40's or 50's. adoption was in another state. when the baby (then a adult) looked up her birth mother. she was surprised. the family that adopted her had moved to the same town and lived there for several years before moving again. she spent years with family and didn't even know it.
Glad my dad didn't cheat with moms cousin who raised like a daughter by grandparents grandpa's brother and wife died in an accident when she was young and grandparents told guardianship of her as it was in their will they wanted grandparents to raise her not any of his other siblings growing I had the curse of looking like her especially after I started wearing glasses possibly why I went with long hair when hit double digits it wasn't till teenage years that dad's side showed more
The video is over 2 years ago.... Anyone knows any updates? My brief google search just shows articles from 3-4 years ago with the same information from the video. Did they win the lawsuit? Is it still on going?
I don’t know after everything I’ve been through with a large very nasty family and now dwindling with other bad things around me. I’m good with either myself or just one person or a couple of dogs and my own place… away from it all. After everything I’ve been thru.. and I’m less than a yr from half a century. Can’t change past past but would love a peaceful future
@@elylioney6390 Yes, he was lied to. But a lie in of itself does not constitute harm. People get lied to *all the time* but they can't sue because of it. If I was him, yeah, I'd be pissed, but I'd realize my life was not impacted, so no big deal. As to the kids marrying a sibling? I've acknowledged in other comments that it's the kids, not Bryce, who might have a claim. But not a huge one. This sort of thing is *always* a risk when you think about adopted kids, for example It happens. But the thing is, these are only half siblings, so the risk is much, much less.
imagine the emotional confusion on the father. I think it’s outrageous. It’s not okay to just basically steal somebodies genetic material and leave him with all these unresolved feelings. Same for the kids.
@@h.neubert8770 Kids? Maybe. The parents should have told them they came from a donation. The "emotional confusion" of the father? So what? That's not "damages" that justify a lawsuit. Only a pansy would be upset by this. If he had some responsibility for them, it'd be an issue, but he doesn't and it's not.
my dad took a DNA test once and he found out he had another daughter in the south. he has never met her or talked to her, i messaged her awhile ago and it’s almost weird how similar she looks to us. apparently my older sister says she acts a lot like me and we have similar interests, and she’s a couple years older than me.
All I can think about while watching this is how many people are out there that have no idea that they are a donor child and end up in a relationship with another donor child that happens to be their sibling.... And they create children with deformities and medical issues......
thats not a thing. educate yourself lol. it takes *generations* of inbreeding to cause that kind of deformity, with parent/child inbreeding it takes slightly fewer generations. but as a single cross it doesnt statistically change anything.
Well, it's always a good idea for a couple to get tested before having kids to test for risks. That will likely bring up genetic closeness since certain ethnicities carry common diseases (no ethnicities are immune from this). Besides, a lot of people are on ancestry anymore. But, yes, I guess in the interim, this could be psychologically damaging if they've already been having an intimate relationship.
@@Pteromandiasmaybe hers were stronger than his lol. Genetics is crazy sometimes. They could have ended up like Bruce and Demi. They both had strong genes fighting to be #1 and they had 3 daughters that look like a Bruce/Demi mashup.
@@mmonarchs714 I wonder if they’ve found more kids we really need an update! The people at that clinic Wronged that man. Glad the kids aren’t upset because he wants nothing to do with them GLAD THEIR HELPING HIM WITH HIS CASE AGAINST THE CLINC
They are all beautiful, precious, responsible young people, and I’m glad they are a part of all of us at this time in history. I support their concerns with regard’s to this matter.
A medical student donating a sample a week for 52 weeks, seems like a rather generous donation to produce 5 children? What did he think they were going to do with it? At least he appears to be an intelligent, compassionate man, and not a pathological serial killer or something. It’s nice to see the siblings wanting to be together. So many nuclear, or maybe that should be NO CLEAR families out there today. Good luck guys!! P.S. I have friends that I’ve know since elementary school that had families with 11, 13 and 15 siblings all living in none too large of houses. One mom was adamant about shoes being left lying around everywhere, so they all went up the stairway, what a death trap. . You can consider yourselves lucky to have avoided that level of “togetherness” LOL Three of the sweetest mom’s I’ve ever known though, there was nothing you could surprise them with.
I disagree. If there is someone willing to donate their eggs, or supermarket to help an infertile couple have children, what's wrong with that? They aren't having sex with the donor. They are using genetic material that had already been "harvested". I know a few couples who struggle with infertility.
@@Momma_Tommawe know how are babies are made but it shouldn't be in a lab so I don't have sympathy for infertile couples who act baby starved. If they want to be a parent they can adopt. You don't feel for those kids who are advertised like waiting to be adopted dogs on a shelter site? Do you think it's sad but too bad because they're stigmatized?
@@js8224 you act like adopting is easy when it’s not also your forgetting one big factor in parenthood which is pregnancy, most women would love to experience carrying a child and being able to breastfeed, going to scans and even childbirth. You discard how monumental those experiences are and how hard they are to give up to some people, which adoption cannot provide. I have sympathy for those who can’t naturally conceive because it can’t be easy knowing how good of a parent you’d be if given the chance especially when others who aren’t good people or parents have them so frequently, like I think everyone should.
As someone born by a sperm donor and have about 10-20 ish half siblings all over the world I’ve known all my life and really thanks they guy for doing it for me and my brother
It is clear that the clinic's actions were unethical and fraudulent. It is also likely that the clinic has violated the contract they had with the donor. Sadly, I feel he is unlikely to win much in the way of damages, because it will be difficult to prove that he has suffered financial losses or other harm as a result of the clinic's actions.
You saw this story as a result of the terroristic acts against humanity by this clinic; exposing other clinic's and the industry itself. I'd say the Dr won. 😉 Question is, what can others do to see this be righted as we all move forward? What can we do to create regulation and oversee its healthy existence?
Anonymous donors? Just going to skip over those mothers that want it? Because if you regulate women on their bodied and how they should feel and act would you need to do anything with the donors?
Are you also going to outlaw random hookups and one-night stands that lead to pregnancy? You want to throw them in prison too? Think about where you're going with this. Maybe people with brazen and creative new excuses for throwing people into prison cages should be outlawed.
Are you also going to regulate women in the same way? No anonymous donations, no random one night stands without mandated birth control? Where does it end?
Is there an update to this story? Have more siblings been found. Has it been discovered how many more cases there are. Has anything changed to stop this from happening anymore.
There's a case where I live (Quebec, Canada) that's been uncovered recently where 2 donors that are related to each other have together at least 430 kids and are still actively donating. In that case they don't go through a sperm bank they donate directly to women. But they lied to every woman saying they only donate to a select group of women when in fact they pretty much donate to anyone that inquires. For info the population here ia about 9 million.
My brother was sperm donor he is father of about 5 kids but only 1 he met and that child is now 22 as same like my daughter and he Hate His father and call him by His first name
there are also very obvious ethical issues with sperm banks openly practicing Nazi-style (pseudoscientific) eugenics (I'm emphasizing the pseudoscientific part (eugenics in general is a more complex argument I'm not feeling like having), they're not just scanning donors against diseases, but they actually openly discriminating against traits (which are either neutral or even positive in terms of health - imagine e.g. a sperm bank accepting a white guy with many genetic issues over a 100% healthy black guy because they just don't like black guys, they threat them like lepers) which they simply don't like for their own aesthetic reasons, based on fashion) imo there should be way more regulation on them and the current owners should be trialed for potential crimes against humanity cos the way they currently operate fulfills some very authoritative definition of a genocide (promoting reproduction of one group over another, suppressing / discouraging reproduction of a given group)
UPPER CLASS HUMAN TRAFFIKING -------------------------- STEALING BABIES is a thing in America, the British IVF is like an open adoption where the donor is also included as a double parent and it is all up front and there is NO PAYMENT involved. Sometimes career people want kids but cannot raise one ---- like academics, scientists and others that do not plan on children themselves but will donate sperm and eggs and WANT to be included in the child's life HONESTLY
Yeah idk if “blessed” is the word I’d use. He was lied to and his genetic material used in a completely irresponsible manner. Seventeen people, that we know of, all around the same age all in the same area…it’s just luck that they didn’t unknowingly start a family of their own with a half sibling. As far as I’m concerned this man was thoroughly violated and the sperm bank that did this should be sued out of existence.
Here is another fun fact say they pull 9 eggs they use one tube of sperm to fertilize all the eggs. You can potentially have nine children out of that one vial/tube. Sorry I forgot how many vials they get from each donation. 1 donation=9 vials Each vial= 9 or more babies 9x9=81 81x52= hell
I was considering donating like 20 years ago in Europe. Glad that I didn't. Turns out laws have changed so much, that donor kids can sue you for back child support here. Imagine this guys facing that now for 20+ donor kids...
Those who donate have to cover their assets from claim against their estates prior to death as that donation might wipe out his legacy to his natural children via the possible multiples of others.
I took my kids to WI where I was born, small town and so lots of chances for cousin interactions. Case in point, my kids got on the school bus and a few kids said hey! who are you and my kids, asked why. They said, because that's my Grandma & Grandpa's house. My kids said, yea they are our Grandparents also. When my kids got home, they told me and I said oh! they must of been my brothers kids. Which I wasn't sure of, because I thought they went to a whole different school. I thought that, because when I lived close to where they lived, we had gone to a whole other towns school. Some kids at school asked my daughter whey she wasn't dating and she said, are you kidding me I'm not going to date anybody in this town, they could be my cousin. True too, because I have lots of siblings, with kids and lots of 1st cousins, 2nd cousins,etc. Back when my kids were young, there was no DNA testing. I only met some of my siblings after I moved back home, I was placed with an Aunt & Uncle at 11 months old and I only knew my Mom's side, of the family. At 14 I went to live with my parents, two years later my Mom had a stroke and I had to go live with my Dad's side, of the family. The Aunt & Uncle who took me in at 11 months, took in two of my siblings who were 4 & 5. There were 9 of us left at home, the youngest was 4 months.
I can’t properly describe how this story makes me feel… I’m a child of a closed adoption so that weight of not knowing if I’m speaking or interacting with someone I’m biologically related to hits me hard… my heart goes out to these siblings now needing to think about that too.
It’s crazy that the clinic allowed 20 donations of the same sperm donor in the same area! The chances of sibling meeting and dating a sibling without knowing is very high! It’s crazy that this is not more regulated! Go figure, producing humans… unregulated business 😢
I just want to admire the commitment these siblings had to meet, mingle, and form their onw family have being born unknownly from each other except only a connection through OHSU. Then when they reach out to Father, he says "I'm suing, are you with me?" "And their first answer is yes, lets slay onto OHSU!" immediately supporting they're newly discovered family member. Man I wish my family was special...
This is so insensitive and short sighted. Yes having siblings can be great but these people didn't know, this is fertility fraud and in some cases has lead to accidental incest! There needs to be laws around sperm and egg donations and it should be illegal to have unknown donors as well so the resulting children can have a full medical background from both sides.
One of my friends was an only child but then found out in her adult life that her father had more kids after her (years after he divorced her mom and moved back to his native country). I think one of the kids reached out to her. Turns out my friend is a natural at being the oldest sibling. I also had a co-worker who was part of a large family already that found out in her adult life that she had another sibling, also in a different country. Notably, the men involved in both situations are Scandinavian... It amazes me how common this is, but also spreading seed isn't difficult for men
@@broadwaybaby348 I had a suspicion that yhat is what must have happened. The sperm bank company would have been desperate to limit the publicity as much as possible and other sperm bank companies would have been desperate for them to do so too.
There is oversight with this process, at least there should have been with this.There are formality clauses and potential donors are made aware now. There is a specific count to which sperm donation can be used, don’t recall the numbers but I believe it cannot be more than 27 ppl. Now, mind you these donor samples go all over the world now. Currently there are six companies that operate as IVF and sperm donation clinics with the most popular clinics being in California. Also, can family members represent other family members? Also, are the kids( donor children) receiving financial restitution if the decision is in their favor by the court?
Back in the day ppl had 50+ kids with several women. My grandfather in law has 30 with 5 women, (not simultaneously that i know of) in a small town in Venezuela. They have huge family parties every week with adult kids (siblings & cousins) from each mom there. Their dad is 90+ and dances at every get together.
@@GullibleTarget The kids don't intermarry with each other. They married other families. My husband's dad is in his 70s. He moved out of the town to a bigger city nearby in the 1970s. His brothers range in age from their 50s to 80s. They all got engineering jobs of different types in big national factories producing construction materials like aluminum, for example. None of them married a girl from the small town.
These banks should have it in their contracts that the recipients MUST report back to the bank whether or not there was a successful birth. Or it's breech of contract. Its that easy. Then limit the amount of times each donation is successfully used...
As if being born on the opposite coast would have prevented sperm donor children from ending up in relationships in this modern age of travel; or even in the past for that matter-people have always travelled and moved.
@davidpawson9047 Yes, but that's not comparing like with like. One or two half or full separated siblings is not the same as 50 or a 100 or hundreds of half siblings.
a judge found that when a woman stealing it from a rubber in the trash can was deemed legal, and make the man liable for child support, this case likely isn't going anywhere.
Child support for donor kids is stupid and should be illegal, this case includes stolen genetic material. About these kids, I have no idea why this greedy doctor trying to sue. Back then he wanted to have a lot of kids and provided genetic material, now he wants money. Common, it’s no different then bulls on the farm or donating blood over and over to save tens of people with blood loss.
The one good thing that came out of this is that they literally can from a clan with that many siblings. I know their relationships will depend on them but at the end of the day having so many siblings mean that you aren’t alone in anything.
On paper that's fine.... but for the future, all your children/grand children prolly need to compare Genetics with their partners... to make sure they aren't genetically related
In Quebec we have a movie that was made about a sperm donor who the clinic made 533 kids,,,the movie is about 142 of is kids wanting to know him….is a comedy but very touching at the same time, maybe there is English version somewhere or subtitles…title is : Starbuck
It could be worse! He could get sued for child support for 18 years per child plus penalties. As many ambulance chaser lawyers that are on tv ads these days, I'm sure some are researching if they can go class action.
Wow! Would never have thought of that ? Unless one had gotten DNA testing prior to marriage, he/she could conceivably have been married to one’s own half-sibling ? BAD !
Stories like this will only steer people away from donating sperm, eggs or embryos or adopting. Too much hustle, too much complications. Donor siblings, what a ridiculous notion. Blood isn't everything. Family is what you make it. What a slap to people that raised them. Some things are meant to stay burried.
I can't imagine having all those beautiful children and not wanting to know each and every one of them. I would be so proud of them, they look like really good group of people. I'm happy that have each other.
@@RepentImmediately Prioritizing his of wn chosen family? Yes, absolutely! Completely ignoring all his biological children? Sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or any other disorder involving lack of empathy.
The belgian law obliges the sperm bank to discard the remaining sperm after 6 offsprings, in order to avoid these kinds of scenarios from happening. By law sperm/egg donation & surrogacy can't be financially compensated.
The scary thing is that you do not want to marry a close relative. People need to be honest with children if they come from sperm bank, so they do they do not marry a sibling, or cousin.
I think it's super cool and empathetic of the kids to support him. Sure, they're glad to be alive, but a wrong was done to that man, and it's nice to see that they aren't taking it personally.
Yeah I agree, it would be awful on their part if they blamed him for simply making a donation but truth be told people can be like that.
Wrong done to the kids as well. Could they someday have children with a sibling?
@@StopWhining491 I'd be requesting a DNA test from partners. I wonder how many they've found now that it's a few years later! Wouldn't be so bad if they were in other states, but the fact that they are all probably living in the same state is wild.
The problem with this is… what if you wind up falling in love with a half sibling , completely unaware you’ve got the same sperm daddy?
Yes and that's a very realistic problem as well because there has been studies that you are much more likely to fall for someone at first sight who has the sorts of genetic similarities to you... That's why family relationships are so taboo. And it's also why they're stories like the Oedipus complex.
There are documentary That cover this kind of stuff and it's really messed up... Especially since so many parents don't tell their kids the truth they won't even know to look out for half-siblings.
There are tons of stories of half-siblings and cousins and young mothers giving kids up for adoption and and later marrying them it's a real problem and sperm banks shouldn't make it worse.
That already happen. There was a story on CNN a day ago. The lady slept with her half- brother in high school. At the time, neither knew they were donor conceived.
They are literally forcing 10 year old girls to give birth to their father's, brother's, uncle's and really anyone's fetus.
Do you really think they care about incess?
That's why he wanted his own future children on the opposite coast of the donor children.
and if you didnt know, it doesnt matter. its utterly irrelevant
I don’t know why parents aren’t transparent with their children
Because parent are SELFISH. They only thought about what they wanted at that time. They didn't care to consider the child would be an adult one day and want to know who they were.
Well, let's see, at what age would you like to know you were conceived by rape? Or your uncle? Yep, sometimes it's not selfish.
Because you have never been in their shoes, that's why you don't understand it
@@lifewithdeedee3392 I don’t need to be. Not being honest with your children just leads to trust issues and hostility. I would feel betrayed and upset if I’m just finding out such life altering information when I’m halfway through my 20s.
Embarrassment that as a manly- man he couldn't reproduce usually.
Imagine taking a dna test and a week later getting 17 missed calls from unknown numbers saying “hey sibling “
As a parent, what is the point of lying to your child about how they were made? That is so weird to me.
It doesn't matter who the sperm comes from. IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ANONYMOUS!!!
@@jessicapearson9479 i don’t care if it’s anonymous. It’s the fact they led the child to believe they were genetically linked to their dad into adulthood which is so not right.
And I don't get why the parents were crying when telling Ani that he was conceived using a donor, I just don't get why it's shameful :o you made the decision to do ivf, why aren't you proud of it? Why can't you talk about it with one of the people who it concerns? I'll maybe empathize with someone discomfort and shame in this situation but not truly understand why you could go through with it but never speak a word about it.
@@cozymoggele right!! There’s no shame. Only shame for hiding the truth. Be proud 💯
Mothers tell their kids that their dad is dead all the time .... Just because they hate the father ..
4 kids + 5 step kids + 17 donor kids??. Wow!!!
Successful man ... Like it or not, even the donor kids consider him fully as their father.
They shouldn't because he's not. I'm sure this situation blew up his life.
@@kayc421 ... It's literally not a choice, he is their biological father ... And why would it blow up his life? ... They are adults, if you are busy you say you are busy. Organize to meet when there is time, and make the best of it.... These are not kids.
I have 1 brother I live with and 60+ half siblings who are spread across the US.
sperminator
Just imagine, 17 siblings in the same area? Say they each have 2 or 3 kids. That's 30 to 50 people in the area who are 1st cousins and DON'T KNOW. That shit severely fucks with the gene pool. I'm glad he's seeking legal action to get some kind of regulations put in place because that's legit scary to think about.
Regulations don’t mean anything when the donor pool is so small compared to the entire country. On a mass scale this would lead to inbreeding. What a great idea. Not like that hasn’t held countries back for hundreds of years.
Any man who donates ought to be on a national registry. Anytime a child is born from a donor's sperm that should go on the national registry. It needs to be made easy to find and keep track of your genetic siblings. Infertility doctors ought to be on a DNA registry so that donor fraud can be found early.
Include IVF because fraud can happen there, too.
Nah because that’s too easy
The soundest advise 👏🏽
It needs to be a worldwide registry because the donation can be sold to anyone overseas.
So you want a child to consent to have their DNA on file with the government? Yeah that’s a pass… as a law abiding citizen my DNA should only be somewhere that I give consent…
@@moiaddy1yes so my dna can be collected from me as a child without my consent and used by the government for whatever purpose the deem appropriate… that’s a big no
The one woman said her kids will have to get DNA tests on the people they are dating to make sure they arent siblings... That is so sad and so true. These clinics are screwing with generations of people. Imagine the grandkids of these people, there could be hundreds of them. First cousins will definitely end up marrying not knowing they are related.
Or grandkids or great grandkids
@@beverlyarcher3744 at that point they would be second cousins, so they wouldn't be at risk of having any birth defects or anything. Still gross though for sure..
I’m about to be a father and I almost donated sperm myself. You can see that all of them have green eyes and have the same keen intelligence and curiosity he has. The eldest has his nose. I’m amazed at how they all look. Madi is BEAUTIFUL.
Thank god I don't got some Madi as a sister out there bc I'd fall right into the trap
I was just thinking how good-looking they all were and well-spoken, too. It hasn't hurt the human gene pool, but with so many in one place it could hurt a lot of people. Oversight and new laws are definitely in order.
As his biological home son was talking you could see the sadness in their eyes.
Alex - can you donate your sperm to me?
I concur about Madi
My dad had kids with other women before he married my mom. He lost touch with them, but we knew they were out there. However, it wasn’t until we were all adults that we finally met up.
It’s the most bizarre experience to meet someone who is essentially a total stranger, yet someone to whom you are so closely related. We found out that we are all very much alike in looks and mannerism even have mutual interests and we all get along great together. I have two brothers and three sisters. All of them wonderful people with kids and grandkids.
There was a case years ago where three triplet brothers were separated at birth and adopted out to three different sets of couples in different economic and social statuses. It was done as an experiment to see if a person's upbringing affects their personality. The three brothers final;ly found out about each other, and found they all liked the same things and acted the same.
How does one lose touch with one's children?
@@MaryCumbersnatchyeah im also curious
I met my half-sister first time when we were studying in the same university) for those who wonder how man can loose contact with a child - my dad divorced sisters mom with big scandal, she hindered him to meet her, he didn't persist so they never met again
A father “loses touch” with his children by being a jerk toward, or not bothering with, the mothers. He sounds like an @ss. Pretty amazing that the offspring of such a man are wonderful people. I’m glad they have each other.
So important for there to be a regulation. Like Madi said, they need to make sure that they and their children are not biologically related to the person they are dating. How insane is that to even think about?!?
in iceland due to the small population of an island they actually have a database for people to check if they are closely related before getting down with it 😅
It still happens.
@@hightidemidafternoonthat’s actually a good idea, I’d hate to accidentally do the deed with someone related to me 😂
The potential for inter-breeding is such a problem among the small population on the island of Iceland that they have to keep family records and get DNA tested before dating.
Mmmm That's an awful way of dating.
I feel this violation is SO gross. How dare they go against the contract they put in place. What a negligent practice that took place. They used this man.
@ThePowerMovesI'm sure they would have at least considered the fact they'd be getting some irate phone calls down the line once the kids ended up accidentally marrying eachother and producing kids with avoidable medical conditions due to inbreeding. Kind of hard to ignore that when anyone and everyone could be a close relative in your local area right?
@@rabbitguts2518 Americans don't even abort down syndrome babies, instead preferring to use that service to genocide black communities.
they are all beautiful kids! I'm glad they found each other
What's really scary is that biological siblings don't always look alike. In my family there was a redhead, a blond, and two darker browns, and facial features were also not that similar unless you were looking for them.
Some of them look so much like him, they have beautiful green eyes
Huh
Sus
And the schnooz. Wow. Buddy has some strong genes.
I have green and hazel eyes
and ?
Wow. This is awful for Bryce, and the idea of related people in a nearby distance to one another. Additionally, the idea of OSHU just deciding to do whatever they wanted, sheesh. really impacts people who would have wanted to contribute.
UPPER CLASS HUMAN TRAFFIKING -------------------------- STEALING BABIES is a thing in America, the British IVF is like an open adoption where the donor is also included as a double parent and it is all up front and there is NO PAYMENT involved. Sometimes career people want kids but cannot raise one ---- like academics, scientists and others that do not plan on children themselves but will donate sperm and eggs and WANT to be included in the child's life HONESTLY
I am an Ashkenazi Jew, and my community is considered an endogamous community (Endogamy refers to a community that is genetically isolated due to religion, geography, culture, or other reasons, such that the group shares much of the same unique genetic material). Because of this, it is overwhelmingly common in my community to get genetic testing done before dating (at least in the orthodox communities), let alone before having kids. It is something that growing up I always knew I would have to do. Hearing from these folks about how the idea that they need to do genetic testing never previously occurred to them is fascinating for me to hear. Also, in the most traditional orthodox Jewish circles, having 6-10 children is normal, and one person I know from school is one of 19. What a cultural difference!
Interesting! So if I may ask a question? If genetic testing is done before dating to be safe (obviously), in the event that it comes up that a couple shares genes? How is this handled? Is it as awkward as I'm imagining or is it just sort of a normal thing for the culture?
I'm genuinely curious 😊
ASHKENAZI IS NOT HEBREW NOR SEMETIC THIS IS WHY THEY REFUSE ACTUAL DNA TESTING IN ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT SEMITIC PEOPLES LIKE THE HEBREWS OF AFRICA AND PALESTINIAN PEOPLES MUSLIM CHRISTIAN AND HEBREW. THEY TEST OF ASHKENAZI ANCESTRY BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE AFRICAN ANCESTRY( NORTH AFRICA AND NORTH EASTERN AFRICA AKA THE MIDDLE EAST). YOU ARE KHAZAR CONVERTS YOUR YIDDISH HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH ACTUAL HEBREW BUT THE AFRICAN BANTU LANGUAGE DOES 😉.
Yea because you people get paid by both the US and Isreal for every child born as well as Germany paying for you bastards yet yall can't pay Blacks reparations ? Yall always saying on that happened so long ago yet when was yall enslaved ( actually never) but yall wanna claim the Hebrews of the bible slavery over a 1000 years ago foh. Stop it its a farce dnt believe me believe maimonedes who stated the jew has nothing to do with the ancient Hebrews of the Torah. Yiddish is a Germanic language not SEMETIC
You guys get around your in everyone
I’m from the same community, so I can answer. We have this thing called for yesharim, basically you get a blood test and the organization will test for recessive genes of deseases that are common, but they won’t tell you what you have so that there is no stygma around desease.
They give you a number and if you want to date someone you would both ask the organization if you’re numbers are compatible. If you are then you keep dating, if not then you stop dating and you don’t know who has what desease.
People will generally make sure they are compatible early on so there are no heartbreaks if you find out too late.
There needs to be regulation. At least the kids showcase the good temper and good heart of Dr. Bryce. Not the worst genes to be spreading, but this definitely needs to be regulated.
Regulation won't work. Only banning will.
If I were the donor I'd be pissed, imagine being near the end of your life and suddenly 20+ kids come along and want to have some kind of relationship with you. My guess is he probably had forgotten he had even donated and now this mess falls into his lap. 5 mil isn't near enough money, you want to severely punish the medical center that did this and 5 mil is probably a drop in the bucket for them.
Yup, I would ask for 2 millions for each new donor child that keeps poping up.
And you're right, poor Bryce; if he had 4 natural born kids of his own, plus 5 stepchildren it looks like the guy really enjoyed being a Dad. But now that he probably thought he was done with fatherhood, all these kids show up at his door.
I know they said they didn't wanted a relationship with him but I don't think is completely true, cause they wouldn't have follow the research. At least is good to know the natural son that is his lawyer is trying to be the bridge between both parts
people are weirdly... eugenical, not to use the N-word
why would you betray your actual parents to go on some great genetic quest to find the sperm donor (besides, like, learning about diseases or avoiding interbreeding but you don't need to acknowledge the "father" for that)
just very icky (the same with the comments here praising the kids for being attractive or correlating it with "good genes" or some kinda "worth of living" (unironical N-word language))
Do note give your gametes if you do not want to have children.
Can you imagine dating someone and you don't find out that they are your sibling or cousin? What if you had a child with them? That child would be born with serious birth defects.
exactly... And people asks why there are so many new birth genetical defects these past 20-30 years, they probably marrying their own siblings without them realizing...
naaah, miscegenation is worse. Don't buy into the jewish propaganda.
I mean it’s not definite that any child would be born with birth defects. Yes the odds go way up, but it’s not 100%.
And this is why parents need to not be selfish and tell their children that they are donor kids
@@naia-gl2nfas someone that was told at probably 7 or 8, it has always been a concern with relationships. Not great on mental health for those that know, but definitely need to find some happy medium.
In my country, there is a law that limits the number of children that are allowed to be concieved via the same donor to three, to prevent situations like this and accidental incest from happening.
What an emotional mess. I'm glad these siblings found each other. I don't know how many grew up believing they were an only child and then discovered they had so many unknown siblings. I hope they all grew up in happy, healthy homes surrounded with love. Obviously, their parents wanted them or they wouldn't have gone through the process of medically assisted pregnancy. I can't imagine the shock Bryce felt when he found out about these children. Hopefully there was some sense of happiness that he was able to help couples who struggled to have a child. But, I agree with his effort to have the system more regulated and transparent is very important. At least the children can be certain that his genetic contribution to their DNA was healthy. Family reunions and holidays just got epic!
My goodness, these siblings practically resemble, like, you wouldn't need convincing once you were told they were siblings.
If they stay in touch, they will greatly benefit from having a large family when they are seniors. The older we get the more important family becomes…If your siblings are great people, wonderful and kind, it doesn’t matter if they are full siblings or half siblings. They are your siblings. Period!
With only one close relative left alive now, I'd give a lot to find I have half siblings.
Never thought being 54 would be so... lonely...
I understand.
I totally understand because I have so many friends and family members who died and I'm not in a relationship because I'm just working on myself and recovering from the last bad one...
Introspective take care of me some of my life but I have to believe there are other people who are struggling with exactly because baby boomer relatives have died
@@LindaHutchings I hear you. I'm sorry you're in this position.
It's not just baby boomers or even the pre-boomers who are passing away.
I've outlived several siblings, babies, younger cousins, former classmates, favourite neighbours, friends of all ages, other family members, and that was before losing 6 healthy family members in the past 4 years (none had the cyrus), and over 50 healthy friends and family friends and acquaintances in the past 4 years. Several took their own lives during the past 4 years, but the rest have passed away extremely suddenly and unexpectedly. Many were younger than me, while some were much younger.
I was hit by a drunk driver 20 years ago and left disabled and, gotta admit, I always thought I'd pass away long before any of them.
I can't afford a pet, am working on me atm; too late for a Relationship, but I'm trying to figure out how to start making friends now. Haven't made a new friend in many, many years. Not quite sure how, but have found several ways that don't work, lol.
I've met a lot of people over the past year or so who are struggling with loneliness, loss, etc. Loss of loved ones, jobs, homes, etc. I try to listen and take time with them, and not judge. They seem to appreciate it, and it gets me out of myself for a bit. We're all struggling with something at some point in life.
I wish you well.
That's why you're supposed to have children, to ward off the dread that will only get worse until it engulfs you.
Get a library card and go get involved in your community. Please don't stay lonely.
we found out pretty young that our dad's dad wasn't really his dad. grandma was with someone who she found out was married with children when she told him she was pregnant (in the 40's). i didn't think much of it, we were living in a different state. when we moved back to the same state i started to wonder if anyone in school was related to me. when i started dating i would pretty much get a full family line from them to make sure we weren't related. after doing ancestry i found out someone i nearly dated was related to me, possibly an uncle. we refer to the biological as "sperm donor". apparently him and his other sons were man ho's and didn't think or care about getting anyone pregnant. even though they told the guy the offspring would be on the opposite coast, people move.
i know of a woman who gave a child up for adoption in the 40's or 50's. adoption was in another state. when the baby (then a adult) looked up her birth mother. she was surprised. the family that adopted her had moved to the same town and lived there for several years before moving again. she spent years with family and didn't even know it.
Glad my dad didn't cheat with moms cousin who raised like a daughter by grandparents grandpa's brother and wife died in an accident when she was young and grandparents told guardianship of her as it was in their will they wanted grandparents to raise her not any of his other siblings growing I had the curse of looking like her especially after I started wearing glasses possibly why I went with long hair when hit double digits it wasn't till teenage years that dad's side showed more
Truly incredible how they all look like siblings, except for the donor's actual son.
The video is over 2 years ago.... Anyone knows any updates? My brief google search just shows articles from 3-4 years ago with the same information from the video. Did they win the lawsuit? Is it still on going?
I’m leaving this comment so I get notified if someone responds
All I can say is wow....I truly feel for the doctor and for all of these children
The parents did not care about the feelings of the children.I remember they were obsessed with having a kid,sad.
I don’t know after everything I’ve been through with a large very nasty family and now dwindling with other bad things around me. I’m good with either myself or just one person or a couple of dogs and my own place… away from it all. After everything I’ve been thru.. and I’m less than a yr from half a century.
Can’t change past past but would love a peaceful future
This is not fair to Bryce at all. Glad though that the kids are alive.
Not fair to Bryce? How has he been harmed?
@BS-vx8dg he was lied to. But also for his natural born kids, now they have to be careful about who they marry.
@@elylioney6390 Yes, he was lied to. But a lie in of itself does not constitute harm. People get lied to *all the time* but they can't sue because of it. If I was him, yeah, I'd be pissed, but I'd realize my life was not impacted, so no big deal.
As to the kids marrying a sibling? I've acknowledged in other comments that it's the kids, not Bryce, who might have a claim. But not a huge one. This sort of thing is *always* a risk when you think about adopted kids, for example It happens. But the thing is, these are only half siblings, so the risk is much, much less.
imagine the emotional confusion on the father. I think it’s outrageous. It’s not okay to just basically steal somebodies genetic material and leave him with all these unresolved feelings.
Same for the kids.
@@h.neubert8770 Kids? Maybe. The parents should have told them they came from a donation.
The "emotional confusion" of the father? So what? That's not "damages" that justify a lawsuit. Only a pansy would be upset by this. If he had some responsibility for them, it'd be an issue, but he doesn't and it's not.
my dad took a DNA test once and he found out he had another daughter in the south. he has never met her or talked to her, i messaged her awhile ago and it’s almost weird how similar she looks to us. apparently my older sister says she acts a lot like me and we have similar interests, and she’s a couple years older than me.
Those that inherited the gray eyes got lucky.
Those eyes are so beautiful.
gray? timestamp?
@@onbored9627 All that have light eyes.
They seem gray to me, why?
@@BeastChaeng I see some green some hazel.
My eyes are a blue grey. I think hazel eyes are beautiful 😍
@@BeastChaeng0:25 They literally said "brown hair and green eyes" and the eyes are fairly obviously green, not gray.
So I wasn't going crazy I was seeing a whole bunch of people who looks related around here in town..😂😂🤣
the thought of it…scares the issh out of me…
@@oniriscope De terror.
Same thing happens with a popular guy in some neighborhoods. Lots of kids with different women.
I live in a neighborhood that about 80% of them I'm related to even had a name for it compared to 10 years back when it was 99%
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess this is another great reason for getting gene tests done before planning a family....
All I can think about while watching this is how many people are out there that have no idea that they are a donor child and end up in a relationship with another donor child that happens to be their sibling.... And they create children with deformities and medical issues......
thats not a thing. educate yourself lol. it takes *generations* of inbreeding to cause that kind of deformity, with parent/child inbreeding it takes slightly fewer generations. but as a single cross it doesnt statistically change anything.
Well, it's always a good idea for a couple to get tested before having kids to test for risks. That will likely bring up genetic closeness since certain ethnicities carry common diseases (no ethnicities are immune from this). Besides, a lot of people are on ancestry anymore. But, yes, I guess in the interim, this could be psychologically damaging if they've already been having an intimate relationship.
One generation of inbreeding has basically no discernable effects
@@tguf45640% of pregnancies are unplanned
This is just as possible as having a hoe for a dad that caused a lot of single moms tho lol like anything can happen
That is truly ridiculous. Seriously, like she said they are making humans.
Gross people.
The donors kids look more like him than his biological children
What has his wife been up to, you wonder?
@Pteromandias Lmmfao that's a good QUESTION? BECAUSE HIS GENE'S ARE STRONG
@@cookietx I just said the same thing. They are super strong.
@@Pteromandiasmaybe hers were stronger than his lol. Genetics is crazy sometimes. They could have ended up like Bruce and Demi. They both had strong genes fighting to be #1 and they had 3 daughters that look like a Bruce/Demi mashup.
@@mmonarchs714 I wonder if they’ve found more kids we really need an update! The people at that clinic Wronged that man. Glad the kids aren’t upset because he wants nothing to do with them GLAD THEIR HELPING HIM WITH HIS CASE AGAINST THE CLINC
They are all beautiful, precious, responsible young people, and I’m glad they are a part of all of us at this time in history. I support their concerns with regard’s to this matter.
A medical student donating a sample a week for 52 weeks, seems like a rather generous donation to produce 5 children? What did he think they were going to do with it?
At least he appears to be an intelligent, compassionate man, and not a pathological serial killer or something.
It’s nice to see the siblings wanting to be together. So many nuclear, or maybe that should be NO CLEAR families out there today. Good luck guys!!
P.S. I have friends that I’ve know since elementary school that had families with 11, 13 and 15 siblings all living in none too large of houses. One mom was adamant about shoes being left lying around everywhere, so they all went up the stairway, what a death trap. . You can consider yourselves lucky to have avoided that level of “togetherness” LOL Three of the sweetest mom’s I’ve ever known though, there was nothing you could surprise them with.
Not every donation will result in viable pregnancy, which is probably why multiple donations are not discouraged.
He never questioned it
So wrong and so gross. People, just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Not to mention the fact there's so many kids that need to be adopted too..
Too many kids that need to be adopted and it's so f*cking weird how normalize this video tries to make it.
I disagree. If there is someone willing to donate their eggs, or supermarket to help an infertile couple have children, what's wrong with that?
They aren't having sex with the donor. They are using genetic material that had already been "harvested".
I know a few couples who struggle with infertility.
@@Momma_Tommawe know how are babies are made but it shouldn't be in a lab so I don't have sympathy for infertile couples who act baby starved. If they want to be a parent they can adopt. You don't feel for those kids who are advertised like waiting to be adopted dogs on a shelter site? Do you think it's sad but too bad because they're stigmatized?
@@js8224 you act like adopting is easy when it’s not also your forgetting one big factor in parenthood which is pregnancy, most women would love to experience carrying a child and being able to breastfeed, going to scans and even childbirth. You discard how monumental those experiences are and how hard they are to give up to some people, which adoption cannot provide. I have sympathy for those who can’t naturally conceive because it can’t be easy knowing how good of a parent you’d be if given the chance especially when others who aren’t good people or parents have them so frequently, like I think everyone should.
This is so bad. Imagine the dangers of marrying your half sibling without knowing. Talk about shrinking the gene pool.
Worse with adoption, you could end up marrying a FULL sibling
They are safeguarding their future siblings by knowing each other.
As someone born by a sperm donor and have about 10-20 ish half siblings all over the world I’ve known all my life and really thanks they guy for doing it for me and my brother
Thank goodness, none of them ended spouse
googled it but can't find lawsuit updates
Yes, me too... there is no news after 2020 on this lawsuit.
They usually end up with settlements most lawsuits do end up a settlements
And the settlements often have confidentiality clauses.
If it's settled out of court it doesn't or it was decided to keep quiet
It is clear that the clinic's actions were unethical and fraudulent. It is also likely that the clinic has violated the contract they had with the donor. Sadly, I feel he is unlikely to win much in the way of damages, because it will be difficult to prove that he has suffered financial losses or other harm as a result of the clinic's actions.
He is emotionally and mentally overwhelmed. Saying that is not harmful is ridiculous.
You saw this story as a result of the terroristic acts against humanity by this clinic; exposing other clinic's and the industry itself.
I'd say the Dr won. 😉
Question is, what can others do to see this be righted as we all move forward? What can we do to create regulation and oversee its healthy existence?
How about missing 2
I wish We could get an update! I wonder if they’ve found more children
20 KIDSSSSSSS 😫 How overwhelming for Dr.Cleary smh.
Anonymous donations should be outlawed. Children have a right to their medical and biological histories.
Seriously though imagine your sperm donor is a paranoid schizophrenic or has a family history of cancer that kills you in ur 40s
Anonymous donors?
Just going to skip over those mothers that want it? Because if you regulate women on their bodied and how they should feel and act would you need to do anything with the donors?
Are you also going to outlaw random hookups and one-night stands that lead to pregnancy? You want to throw them in prison too? Think about where you're going with this. Maybe people with brazen and creative new excuses for throwing people into prison cages should be outlawed.
Should adoptions be outlawed too? How about just having multiple partners? No remarrying!
Are you also going to regulate women in the same way? No anonymous donations, no random one night stands without mandated birth control? Where does it end?
Is there an update to this story? Have more siblings been found. Has it been discovered how many more cases there are. Has anything changed to stop this from happening anymore.
There's a case where I live (Quebec, Canada) that's been uncovered recently where 2 donors that are related to each other have together at least 430 kids and are still actively donating. In that case they don't go through a sperm bank they donate directly to women. But they lied to every woman saying they only donate to a select group of women when in fact they pretty much donate to anyone that inquires. For info the population here ia about 9 million.
Good story. Yes the fact that there has never been regulations is nuts.
When you play with fire, eventually you're going to get burned.
My brother was sperm donor he is father of about 5 kids but only 1 he met and that child is now 22 as same like my daughter and he
Hate His father and call him by His first name
So much trauma behind this all because the parents wanted what they wanted.
How did lawsuit turn out?
Crazy it’s so unregulated 🤯
Insane…absolutely insane…
There should be a get together for these siblings once a year since they already met
That’s up to them.
@@kathyyoung1774absolutely agree 👍 still something I hope happens though😊
This reminds of the documentary Our Father about a doctor who impregnanted his patients with his own sperm. The industry needs regulation.
there are also very obvious ethical issues with sperm banks openly practicing Nazi-style (pseudoscientific) eugenics (I'm emphasizing the pseudoscientific part (eugenics in general is a more complex argument I'm not feeling like having), they're not just scanning donors against diseases, but they actually openly discriminating against traits (which are either neutral or even positive in terms of health - imagine e.g. a sperm bank accepting a white guy with many genetic issues over a 100% healthy black guy because they just don't like black guys, they threat them like lepers) which they simply don't like for their own aesthetic reasons, based on fashion)
imo there should be way more regulation on them and the current owners should be trialed for potential crimes against humanity cos the way they currently operate fulfills some very authoritative definition of a genocide (promoting reproduction of one group over another, suppressing / discouraging reproduction of a given group)
he is a blessed man. 4 kids, 5 step kids, 17 donated kids
*cursed.
20 donated kids
UPPER CLASS HUMAN TRAFFIKING -------------------------- STEALING BABIES is a thing in America, the British IVF is like an open adoption where the donor is also included as a double parent and it is all up front and there is NO PAYMENT involved. Sometimes career people want kids but cannot raise one ---- like academics, scientists and others that do not plan on children themselves but will donate sperm and eggs and WANT to be included in the child's life HONESTLY
Yeah idk if “blessed” is the word I’d use. He was lied to and his genetic material used in a completely irresponsible manner. Seventeen people, that we know of, all around the same age all in the same area…it’s just luck that they didn’t unknowingly start a family of their own with a half sibling.
As far as I’m concerned this man was thoroughly violated and the sperm bank that did this should be sued out of existence.
@@christinaify20 could even be more
There is an instance of a donor with OVER 600 children AND you can be sure there are many more out there
Here is another fun fact say they pull 9 eggs they use one tube of sperm to fertilize all the eggs.
You can potentially have nine children out of that one vial/tube.
Sorry I forgot how many vials they get from each donation.
1 donation=9 vials
Each vial= 9 or more babies
9x9=81
81x52= hell
I was considering donating like 20 years ago in Europe. Glad that I didn't. Turns out laws have changed so much, that donor kids can sue you for back child support here. Imagine this guys facing that now for 20+ donor kids...
Those who donate have to cover their assets from claim against their estates prior to death as that donation might wipe out his legacy to his natural children via the possible multiples of others.
Good point.
I took my kids to WI where I was born, small town and so lots of chances for cousin interactions. Case in point, my kids got on the school bus and a few kids said hey! who are you and my kids, asked why. They said, because that's my Grandma & Grandpa's house. My kids said, yea they are our Grandparents also. When my kids got home, they told me and I said oh! they must of been my brothers kids. Which I wasn't sure of, because I thought they went to a whole different school. I thought that, because when I lived close to where they lived, we had gone to a whole other towns school. Some kids at school asked my daughter whey she wasn't dating and she said, are you kidding me I'm not going to date anybody in this town, they could be my cousin. True too, because I have lots of siblings, with kids and lots of 1st cousins, 2nd cousins,etc. Back when my kids were young, there was no DNA testing. I only met some of my siblings after I moved back home, I was placed with an Aunt & Uncle at 11 months old and I only knew my Mom's side, of the family. At 14 I went to live with my parents, two years later my Mom had a stroke and I had to go live with my Dad's side, of the family. The Aunt & Uncle who took me in at 11 months, took in two of my siblings who were 4 & 5. There were 9 of us left at home, the youngest was 4 months.
Nothing makes sense at the last few lines lol! All I see is boomers.
Gosh this is great and sad at the same time.
I can’t properly describe how this story makes me feel… I’m a child of a closed adoption so that weight of not knowing if I’m speaking or interacting with someone I’m biologically related to hits me hard… my heart goes out to these siblings now needing to think about that too.
It’s crazy that the clinic allowed 20 donations of the same sperm donor in the same area! The chances of sibling meeting and dating a sibling without knowing is very high! It’s crazy that this is not more regulated! Go figure, producing humans… unregulated business 😢
I’ve been going through something similar to this. I’m not a donor child, just someone with a father who was a Casanova back in his day.
So maybe these clinics should be banned.
YES
I just want to admire the commitment these siblings had to meet, mingle, and form their onw family have being born unknownly from each other except only a connection through OHSU. Then when they reach out to Father, he says "I'm suing, are you with me?" "And their first answer is yes, lets slay onto OHSU!" immediately supporting they're newly discovered family member. Man I wish my family was special...
As an only adult child, I would love to find out I have half siblings! Looks like you got blessed by receiving beautiful genes!
Having siblings are not always great. 😑
This is so insensitive and short sighted. Yes having siblings can be great but these people didn't know, this is fertility fraud and in some cases has lead to accidental incest! There needs to be laws around sperm and egg donations and it should be illegal to have unknown donors as well so the resulting children can have a full medical background from both sides.
One of my friends was an only child but then found out in her adult life that her father had more kids after her (years after he divorced her mom and moved back to his native country). I think one of the kids reached out to her. Turns out my friend is a natural at being the oldest sibling.
I also had a co-worker who was part of a large family already that found out in her adult life that she had another sibling, also in a different country.
Notably, the men involved in both situations are Scandinavian...
It amazes me how common this is, but also spreading seed isn't difficult for men
If that were to happen it would likely be because your dad cheated on your mom. Run your DNA and find out.
It’s wild how much they look alike for all having different mothers. Heartwarming how accepting they are of each other.
Those eyes!
It absolutely should be more strictly regulated.
How did the lawsuit go? Anyone know?
@@broadwaybaby348 I had a suspicion that yhat is what must have happened. The sperm bank company would have been desperate to limit the publicity as much as possible and other sperm bank companies would have been desperate for them to do so too.
There is oversight with this process, at least there should have been with this.There are formality clauses and potential donors are made aware now. There is a specific count to which sperm donation can be used, don’t recall the numbers but I believe it cannot be more than 27 ppl. Now, mind you these donor samples go all over the world now. Currently there are six companies that operate as IVF and sperm donation clinics with the most popular clinics being in California. Also, can family members represent other family members? Also, are the kids( donor children) receiving financial restitution if the decision is in their favor by the court?
Back in the day ppl had 50+ kids with several women. My grandfather in law has 30 with 5 women, (not simultaneously that i know of) in a small town in Venezuela. They have huge family parties every week with adult kids (siblings & cousins) from each mom there. Their dad is 90+ and dances at every get together.
Small genetic pool causes inertia. Hopefully there aren't congenital ailments running in your family!
Well, today the average man in the US makes $50K and cannot provide for even one woman and child
@@GullibleTarget The kids don't intermarry with each other. They married other families. My husband's dad is in his 70s. He moved out of the town to a bigger city nearby in the 1970s. His brothers range in age from their 50s to 80s. They all got engineering jobs of different types in big national factories producing construction materials like aluminum, for example. None of them married a girl from the small town.
These banks should have it in their contracts that the recipients MUST report back to the bank whether or not there was a successful birth. Or it's breech of contract. Its that easy. Then limit the amount of times each donation is successfully used...
That why it should not be allow, it so unethical. Ppl will abused to make $$$$$$ cos they knew couples are desperate.
WOW! Anything and anywhere any MEDICAL practices are completed? Expect sick, immoral practices.
As if being born on the opposite coast would have prevented sperm donor children from ending up in relationships in this modern age of travel; or even in the past for that matter-people have always travelled and moved.
@davidpawson9047 Yes, but that's not comparing like with like. One or two half or full separated siblings is not the same as 50 or a 100 or hundreds of half siblings.
a judge found that when a woman stealing it from a rubber in the trash can was deemed legal, and make the man liable for child support, this case likely isn't going anywhere.
Child support for donor kids is stupid and should be illegal, this case includes stolen genetic material. About these kids, I have no idea why this greedy doctor trying to sue. Back then he wanted to have a lot of kids and provided genetic material, now he wants money. Common, it’s no different then bulls on the farm or donating blood over and over to save tens of people with blood loss.
What the hell? Where/when did that happen??
crazy story .i just hope all you kids love one another
The one good thing that came out of this is that they literally can from a clan with that many siblings. I know their relationships will depend on them but at the end of the day having so many siblings mean that you aren’t alone in anything.
It's messed up that they're going to have to get dna testing that's their privacy that they're having to give up it's messed
If i was a donor child i wouldn't want to met my donor siblings like them they would be just strangers to me and not give a damn about them...
I have 24 brothers and sisters, 22 from same father but we are not donor babies, we all know each other
Gee, would your dad like to consider leaving any room on the planet for my ONE kid?
On paper that's fine.... but for the future, all your children/grand children prolly need to compare Genetics with their partners... to make sure they aren't genetically related
I come from big family both sides I literally have to ask family members if we're related to so and so jury duty will be fun 😅
In Quebec we have a movie that was made about a sperm donor who the clinic made 533 kids,,,the movie is about 142 of is kids wanting to know him….is a comedy but very touching at the same time, maybe there is English version somewhere or subtitles…title is : Starbuck
20 kids and counting....donor edition.
I would watch that if they make a tv show with this
It could be worse! He could get sued for child support for 18 years per child plus penalties. As many ambulance chaser lawyers that are on tv ads these days, I'm sure some are researching if they can go class action.
Wow! Would never have thought of that ? Unless one had gotten DNA testing prior to marriage, he/she could conceivably have been married to one’s own half-sibling ? BAD !
Stories like this will only steer people away from donating sperm, eggs or embryos or adopting. Too much hustle, too much complications. Donor siblings, what a ridiculous notion. Blood isn't everything. Family is what you make it. What a slap to people that raised them. Some things are meant to stay burried.
Allyson and her biological father look JUST alike! Wow
The sons do too
I can't imagine having all those beautiful children and not wanting to know each and every one of them. I would be so proud of them, they look like really good group of people. I'm happy that have each other.
I think the same. He could have just come to one of their get togethers and met them all at once, just to see who they are.
It's weird.
@@TallisNewkirkyeah, it's weird that he cares more about prioritizing his actual family than his test tube babies
@@RepentImmediately Prioritizing his of wn chosen family? Yes, absolutely!
Completely ignoring all his biological children?
Sign of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or any other disorder involving lack of empathy.
The belgian law obliges the sperm bank to discard the remaining sperm after 6 offsprings, in order to avoid these kinds of scenarios from happening.
By law sperm/egg donation & surrogacy can't be financially compensated.
The scary thing is that you do not want to marry a close relative. People need to be honest with children if they come from sperm bank, so they do they do not marry a sibling, or cousin.