this is awesome! Considering my main discipline is western ( i ride english, but more western) this is awesome! HAve always wondered how they train this. Thanks for sharing :)
This is a beautiful, willing mare. By the end I was hoping she'd make contact with the trainer's head. Every time he used the stick, she would elevate (!) her rear end, become uneven, and kick. When that happened he let her move forward. SO he was teaching her that the best way to get relief was to do all those unwanted things ... not piaffe. Check out Alexandra Kurland's work to see how to get to wonderful ... she taught her horse to passage at liberty by using event markers and rewards. Animals love this type of training! I'd love to see dressage riders start using this amazing method.
@painthorselover101 if you notice, they only stop and reward the horse when it picks up its legs properly, not kicking. they are getting the horse to pick its feet up under itself which it does more and more of as the lesson goes on.
@MichlPiano what your talking about is passage. Passage is we're the horse is in a collected trot and does piaffe while moving forward. Actual piaffe is done on the spot like shown in the video.
@haven60786 i'm not saying he's hurting the horse but it seems like the constant tapping is counter productive. instead of keeping the horse going the horse stops and kicks.
Hi just want to know do you just tap on the bum area or do you come lower to the leg? And also i have whip shy horse she will trust me sometimes with it but other she will bolt or side step, what should i do?
Clearly the head of the Spanish Riding School doesn't know what he is doing right? Piaffe is developed for walk or better yet rein back (because of the diagonalization). Traditionally this is how it is introduced!
Piaffe nowadays is unfortuanly more a trick than the horse being collected. The horse is taught to to it like a tricks, its forced to do it. The piaffe is no more the highest level of collection. The horse just do it because is it taught to do it with an anoying stick. What if the horse didden't care about the stick? Would you then slap it harder? My horse would give a damn. She does not respond to being tickled in any way, any where on her body.
@TheFlyaway88 My horse couldent care less about being tabbed at by a stick - she does not care. There for she cant be taught "spanish walk". You'd have to beat her to get some kind of respond, and that is not fair. I still think this i a wrong way to teach piaffe - piaffe is made of high collection, not because the horse tries to avoid tapping sticks.
I don't agree with tapping the legs. The Piaffe comes from lowering of the hock joints and pushing off of the ground. You need to ask him to activate the hind quarters. Tapping the leg is not a hind quarter. This should be taught fro the ground first so they can do it before added weight. This will cause them to hollow and just snap the legs up. Not engage the hind quarters....
Die Piaffe ist keine Zirkuslektion, die man dem Pferd beibringt. Die Piaffe und die Passage sind Lektionen der Hohen Dressur, welche sehr viel Versammlung und Kraft vom Pferd fordernt. Das Pferd hebt nur die Beine und setzt sich eig. gar nicht auf die Hinterhand. So wird das nichts wirklich richtiges
why does the guy keep tapping the horse with the whip when the horse is already doing what the guy wants? all the guy is doing is irritating the hell outta that horse!
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this is awesome! Considering my main discipline is western ( i ride english, but more western) this is awesome! HAve always wondered how they train this. Thanks for sharing :)
Best instructional video. It shows a real horse in the process of learning.
This was really good work! Exactly how it should be done:)
This is a beautiful, willing mare. By the end I was hoping she'd make contact with the trainer's head. Every time he used the stick, she would elevate (!) her rear end, become uneven, and kick. When that happened he let her move forward. SO he was teaching her that the best way to get relief was to do all those unwanted things ... not piaffe. Check out Alexandra Kurland's work to see how to get to wonderful ... she taught her horse to passage at liberty by using event markers and rewards. Animals love this type of training! I'd love to see dressage riders start using this amazing method.
@painthorselover101 if you notice, they only stop and reward the horse when it picks up its legs properly, not kicking. they are getting the horse to pick its feet up under itself which it does more and more of as the lesson goes on.
very nice, i have some dvd's from arthur kottas, he is a very good rider/trainner.
@MichlPiano what your talking about is passage. Passage is we're the horse is in a collected trot and does piaffe while moving forward. Actual piaffe is done on the spot like shown in the video.
@haven60786 he could just tap the ground near/beside him. it would stop the horse from getting annoyed and kicking.
I have never adopted this method..I wanna try..thank you!
Thank you for replying.
I learn it at the same way :) (sorry for my english, I'm from Belgium) Great :)
@MichlPiano Totally agree
@haven60786 i'm not saying he's hurting the horse but it seems like the constant tapping is counter productive. instead of keeping the horse going the horse stops and kicks.
so glad to see this video.. vs stupid people who tie the horse between two posts and force them to be collected.. excellent video !!!
I wish it had a better video and audio quality!!!
Does anyone know where i could find a video of the earlier stages of piaffe training, thanks!!
What kind of bit do you use in these training sessions; if you don't mind me asking.
Thank you.
wich comand do you give the horse if you are riding
what make of video camera are you using? Thanks
Hi just want to know do you just tap on the bum area or do you come lower to the leg? And also i have whip shy horse she will trust me sometimes with it but other she will bolt or side step, what should i do?
Beautiful horse. What breed is it? :)
I wish it would be so easy...
Clearly the head of the Spanish Riding School doesn't know what he is doing right? Piaffe is developed for walk or better yet rein back (because of the diagonalization). Traditionally this is how it is introduced!
Piaffe nowadays is unfortuanly more a trick than the horse being collected. The horse is taught to to it like a tricks, its forced to do it. The piaffe is no more the highest level of collection. The horse just do it because is it taught to do it with an anoying stick.
What if the horse didden't care about the stick? Would you then slap it harder? My horse would give a damn. She does not respond to being tickled in any way, any where on her body.
@holmenhast And if the horse gives a damn about you taping the stick? What then?
@TheFlyaway88 My horse couldent care less about being tabbed at by a stick - she does not care. There for she cant be taught "spanish walk". You'd have to beat her to get some kind of respond, and that is not fair.
I still think this i a wrong way to teach piaffe - piaffe is made of high collection, not because the horse tries to avoid tapping sticks.
I don't agree with tapping the legs. The Piaffe comes from lowering of the hock joints and pushing off of the ground. You need to ask him to activate the hind quarters. Tapping the leg is not a hind quarter. This should be taught fro the ground first so they can do it before added weight. This will cause them to hollow and just snap the legs up. Not engage the hind quarters....
Think about the length of your stirrups next time. One leg is way lower than the other
Die Piaffe ist keine Zirkuslektion, die man dem Pferd beibringt. Die Piaffe und die Passage sind Lektionen der Hohen Dressur, welche sehr viel Versammlung und Kraft vom Pferd fordernt. Das Pferd hebt nur die Beine und setzt sich eig. gar nicht auf die Hinterhand. So wird das nichts wirklich richtiges
why does the guy keep tapping the horse with the whip when the horse is already doing what the guy wants? all the guy is doing is irritating the hell outta that horse!