it felt like as if my soul was leaving my body with that one question. i dont wanna see basil dead and kel crying again. but she'd knew that every deceased friend sunny has, it makes his prespective that their rooms dont exist/disappears from his view
1:18:42: "MARI and I were talking about dying our hair together. MARI says she's going to dye her hair purple." .... ever wonder why everybody in Headspace is purple-hued except Basil, why the sky is purple, why the ground is some hue of purple, and even the trees are a green with some purple mixed in?
As someone who has surfed the Photo Album on the wiki and never heard of this, I'm going to look now. See you later, hopefully I don't get more trauma from this game-
I love that Sunny stops dissociating in that memory sequence. He finally speaks in the first person again and associates the memories with his own person.
And the last frame of that battle before you fall unconscious (though I'm sure you noticed from your expression) Sunny had one eye closed, which also blacked out half the screen. Physical damage! D:
The final piece of the puzzle. Sunny's internalizing didn't start after Mari's death - it had been happening *well before it and was a constant personality trait.* A shy kid with low self esteem always listening to everyone else's problems and never vocalizing his own. A kid too afraid of letting his sister and friends down to tell them how he really felt. Sunny's low self esteem hurt him so badly. He didn't tell his sister he was getting frustrated with violin. He didn't tell Kel and Hero that he didn't want to try jumping into the lake. He didn't ever speak his mind because he couldn't bear the idea of hurting his friends. Sunny as a character is probably one of the most empathetic members of the cast, to a fault. He bottled up all his emotions instead of sharing with his friends until they boiled over and he threw his violin in a fit of anger.
@@Shyder same, and this comment right now made it so clear to me. Putting Sunny and game aside, this hits me on a personal level that i didnt knew about, or choose to be oblivious to it. Now i can try to fix this mistake i have been repeating over and over, and let go this burden once for all. Man, i feel like i have found a way to go after being in the dark for so long...
mari with the bad knee....that's where it came in. that's the reason it was mentioned. it wasnt necessarily shown he pushed her down the stairs, more pushed her away. which... is a direct mirror to aubrey pushing basil in the lake now that im thinking about it
Mari had the bad knee and wasn't able to catch herself--parallel to--Basil not being able to swim. I love the mirroring of those two scenes, the foreshadowing in this game is magnificent.
You know what's a perfect mirror? Aubrey and Kel pushing Basil in headspace, causing Basil to fall to the ground and Basil responding "It's okay. Accidents happen"
SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO DIDNT FINISH THE VIDEO: Basil is the one who decided to hang Mari, Sunny was completely out of it when he realized Mari was dead and just went along with it. Sunny took no part with hanging Mari except for carrying her with Basil. Basil was the one who hung Mari up.
Important Note: Basil did it all to protect Sunny as he was deeply afraid of what would happen if the truth came out and of what would happen to Sunny (they were only 12, and Basil severely catastrophized).
The person you missed on the couch at the beginning was Sunny's mom and she says "I just lost my only daughter and, you your my only son, I can't lose you too."
That circle of ‘violins’ you mentioned, I actually noticed just now (even after playing through that route twice LMAO) that they’re not violins. They’re fingers that all point at Sunny because in his mind, he believes that everyone will turn on him and hate him for knowing the truth. My guess it’s a way of saying that he can’t escape what he believes to be inevitable.
Order of Events (as far as we know): Day of the recital: - Sunny and Mari have argument - Sunny *accidentally* pushes Mari - Basil is there to see it happen - They carry her up to her bed - She doesn't wake up - Basil has an idea to make sure no one thinks this is Sunny's fault - They carry her downstairs - They make it look like * ahem * happened instead - Sunny looks back and sees Mari, and that image is burned into his memory - Sunny marks up all the pictures in the book, because all he sees of Mari is Something Behind Him - Basil knows this happens, but denies it ever happened - Sunny is a good person, so it _had_ to have been something behind him that did the bad things Years later: - Aubrey goes over to Basil's house - She sees the marked up photos - Basil does not reveal the truth - Aubrey takes the album and starts bullying him - Aubrey cleans the photos of the marker
I got the impression that the marker incident happened not long after Mari's death. And Aubrey found the photos not long after that. Maybe a few months later. Meaning she and the Hooligans bullied Basil for years. I don't think that was just a recent thing. Am I wrong?
@@GreatGreenLeo Possibly, but since all of the photos are from Basil's POV, it just seems weird that he would see that watch it happen, and then just walk up the stairs after the two of them without helping.
no, in the game files there’s a longer video of the basil looking up cutscene that shows what he’s freaked out by is mari’s body. he saw the whole thing.
Basil has very sublte development. He has a caretaker and his parents arent around, he has anxiety issues and the only relative that cared for him, his grandma is bedrriden and is implied dead at the end of the 3rd day. And after the truth it is revealed he is going through a lot more. What kind of kid knows how to make a noose? What kind of kid would go through dealing with manslauther to 'save' his friend? His development is soooo different to the others but i enjoy it so much.
@25:48: "Can I go back to bed" .... yes. Yes, you can. IF you want the most horrible and heart-wrenching thing you've ever seen in a video game. (SPOILERS!!)
You wake back up to find Basil decided to end it all, and all of your friends in the hallway crying outside of his room, Aubrey thinks he did it because of her bullying, Kel is bawling in tears asking why does this keep happening to us, and Hero is on the verge of breaking down himself, and Polly is asking herself why she is so useless. Sunny peeks in, and then closes the door and promptly erases the door from existence in his mind, saying "There is nothing here." It's... terrible. Horrible. I saw it on someone's Let's Play and I wish I hadn't.
Warning: Rereading what I wrote, there is some sensitive topics mentions that can be triggering to those experiencing the same issues I have dealt with so discretion is advise. It feel slightly odd to say this publicly, however I honestly feel safe to say this here. I heavily relate with the game overall and especially Sunny. Throughout my childhood and early adolescent, I was dealing with a serious kidney infection that always came back no matter what medication or treatment I received. There were so many close calls where if I didn't go to the hospital it would've been fatal. Because of my illness, I couldn't go to school frequently or see my friends anymore. My parents fought more and blamed each other for my condition while I was in earshot, and I remember thinking "if only I wasn't ever sick" so many times. Eventually, I ended up having problems at school where technically I was considered a delinquent due to the amount of absences I had, people who I thought were friends completely ignored me saying "yeah but you won't be here tomorrow." and my teachers scoffed me off because I wasn't caught up with the rest because it was more work for them. Not every teacher was like this of course, but the ones who had their issues with me expressed it enough that I could clearly see despite how dense I am. I felt utterly alone and abandon by people who I thought I could trust. I was 12 when this happened, and I vividly remember "I am going to die eventually from my illness, there is no point for looking forward to the future, why bother coming out of my home anymore?" and because of that, and what was happening around me, I shut myself in for two years. I absolutely refused to go to school, get up, eat or even do anything that I loved doing before. I couldn't play anymore, I couldn't talk anymore, and I couldn't make art anymore. My parents screamed at me to get up or to do something, anything. Their worry became anger after the first week of this. I had suicidal thoughts, and I remember I gave myself a time limit on how long I'll live if my sickness didn't get to me first, when I get to said date I'll try and off myself. Every time that date came, I always got too scared and say I'll do it another day. I blamed myself for everything. Getting sick, causing problems at school, having my parents fight every night, how my classmates saw me as that "Girl who will die soon", I just hated and kept it all inside. I hated myself for being so "weak" and "pathetic". I couldn't talk to this to my parents. I tried so many times but to them, they saw it as me making excuses to just not go to school anymore and be a lazy pig. The most painful thing I've ever heard my parents say is telling me to go die. They knew what going on with my health and so it just, made me shut down even more. It's strange to recall this and see how many years it's been since then, I'm doing a lot better now thankfully. Health wise I'm alright, just not as spry as I once was. I still don't have any friends, but I'm alright with that. I have an incredible Boyfriend who has helped me and encourage me to go on living in his own ways. Being with him made me want to change and get better for our sakes. He's someone I love and I can confidently say is my best friend. I am receiving therapy and slowly processing all that I've experienced and dealt with, which is one of the reasons why I am able to write this. Playing Omori, it felt like I was seeing a mirror. I related strongly with all of these characters and how Sunny uses escapism to cope with what happened. To dream away from everything and to just simply forget and be in that certain bliss you can create in your mind. Alongside that, it showed how difficult it is to heal and forgive yourself. How it might be easier to hate who and what you are, and be in that repeating cycle. However, in the end I can say it's worth that journey and I'm glad Omori sends that message too. Reading what I wrote I think you can see certain things that are mention/shown in Omori, but I don't know. I feel like a fool for pouring my heart out online, but I'll stick with my decision on posting this comment. To those who read all of this, thank you. I hope you're doing well out there. Things will get better. It took me awhile to learn this, but trust me that it will. It just takes time and patience.
In Omori, there are four unique emotional states: Neutral, Happy, Angry, and Sad. Kel responded to Mari's death by staying happy. He found ways to avoid the trauma by finding new friends and hobbies. Hero responded to Mari's death with sadness. He fell into a deep depression, until Kel brought him out of it. Aubrey responded to Mari's death with anger. She lashed out at her friends, feeling they abandoned her. Sunny responded to Mari's death with neutrality. He locked himself away from the outside world and shut his trauma away. In fact, when the emotional rock-paper-scissors triangle is shown way earlier, those four characters are used to represent those four emotions exactly. You can check. However, there's a fifth emotion. It's only used as a negative status effect and in some scripted battles, like the various Something encounters. And it just so happens there's a fifth friend in the group. Because Basil responded to Mari's death by being *afraid*. Afraid that Sunny would be held accountable for it. Framing Mari's death as suicide was Basil's idea, to keep Sunny safe. An interesting detail.
Technically speaking, in most games, "Dead" is actually handled in the same way as status effects, so mari is the 6th friend with the 6th status of toast. I doubt this is intentional, I personally think it's kind of hillarious in a twisted way.
Something to note, Omori kind of implies that ghosts exist in Sunny's world, with stuff like that grave keeper (talking about the spirits howling), Basil's grandmother (out in the street and then fading away when Basil rushes home from the hospital) and Mari (Sunny and Hero both hearing the piano music, neither of them playing), aswell.
Yes though the funny thing is the ghost never seems scary or trying to hurt sunny. Everytime they do like with the long neck mari. It seems to be sunny trauma messing with what he saw so instead of seeing mari trying to help him. He sees a disfigured version of her as he tries to actively repress the idea that mari is dead. With his trauma further distorting her...its sad tbh
@@partygamingz3332 Hellmari (the distorted, broken necked one) is definitely a hallucination from my perspective, but i think Longmari (the tall one that appears behind sunny in the mirror after she plays) is the 'real' deal. Despite her image being distorted by sunny's mind or the mirror, I think her presence would be a weird sort of comforting to sunny.
The game leaves it pretty open ended if Spirit Mari is actually really Mari's spirit, or just another aspect of Mari in his psyche, but I'd really, REALLY like to think that Mari's final act before passing on fully was saving her brother from his guilt. Maybe after Sunny has lived a long, fulfilling life, Mari will be there waiting for him on her picnic blanket, ready to tell him how proud she is of him.
I believe sunny sees the eye as judgment from Mari. Being SEEN does so much to us psychologically, even if we just THINK we are being seen. It's why self serve checkouts have the screen letting you know you're being watched. (The Hawthorne Effect.) So whether or not Sunny thought Mari was alive isn't really as important as the symbolism from being seen by her eye.
Yeah its sadly a recurring theme that the adults of Faraway tend to not be for their children when they need them the most. If Sunny's parents had been at their house they could have maybe defused the argument before it escalated into a fight, or at least know to not move a person who has sustained trauma to the spine and instead call the ambulance immediately. After the accident, it is vaguely implied that Sunny's parents found out the truth but didn't speak to the police. Instead, the father left the family, and the mother stayed as far as possible from Sunny without directly abandoning him, not even helping him eat properly as he became a shut-in due to his trauma. In the case of Basil's parents, they were said to be absent for long periods of time, maybe even years. This probably led Basil to develop deep attachment issues, and when faced with the possibility of Sunny going to jail for manslaughter, his best and closest friend, leaving him alone and abandoning him, his mind saw hiding the evidence of Sunny's involvement as the only solution. This proved to, in the end, cause the opposite of what he wanted, turning a tragic accident into a crime they could never speak about, denying his friends any explanation or closure, and driving everyone apart.
I think Aubrey nearly ended up in the same situation as Sunny when she pushed Basil, but both Basil and she were lucky that Basil could have been saved, while Mari couldn't be. Both Sunny and Aubrey are kinda parallel in this, both acted in frustration and anxiety with no intent of real harm, but we see what happens on both ends.
In a alternate world, omocat creates an ending where you are asked "Do you want to save Mari?" but picking "Yes" just plays the sound when you pick an impossible action (like trying to run from Basil).
26:05 (spoiler) in the very last "photo", you can see that Sunny looked at Mary and she had a open eye that whasn't covered by her hair. that's the "something" that haunts Sunny, the vision of his dead sister looking at hin ... judging hin for what he had done to her.
Something I want to point out is that maybe Basil/Sunny read that in a book. If we consider Sunny knows the word "pulchritudinous" or whatever, is cuz they probably found it in a book. In one of Basil's photos he shows Sunny the book he was reading. And considering this was probably before or in the early 2000's, they probably still were in a more "book" era
I think this is one of the most interesting games to watch Let's Plays of, particularly the truth segment. It's a heavy moment and players have their own, often very strong responses to it. I don't think I've seen anyone yet that displayed not shock, but just empathy, quite like you did. Thank you for this series. Can't wait to see you smash that recital!
Very true, it is rare to find anyone with that kind of response to the truth sequence. If you would like another OMORI Let's Play with an interesting truth sequence response may I suggest Michaela Laws' OMORI Let's Play.
I've tried to type this comment multiple times, but it is hard to properly formulate the words after watching the truth sequence again. While I tend to have a rather high tolerance for disturbing content, probably because I've been an avid fan of horror for as long as I can remember so I've grown habituated to a lot of it, many aspects of this game's characters and events manage to hit somewhere close to home for me, and this sequence always manages to evoke some emotional reaction in me. That being said, now onto the meat of what I wanted to talk about. Firstly, I think it is important for people to understand that rarely is it ever just one thing that causes something. Whether it be events in history, our lives, or aspects of our psychology, you'll find as you analyze these things that there were an array of events and factors that played a part in making them happen. I think it can be easy for fans of this game to place the blame for what happened on one particular thing, whether it be the recital, Basil, people's parents...but I think it is important to understand that there were a lot of different factors at play here. The worse parts of everyone's personalities I think came out and fed into this event. Mari's perfectionism, fed by the social pressure inherent in putting on a recital combined with the success of the recital being reliant not just on her performance but also on the performance of her relatively inexperienced little brother. Sunny's own anxiety and tendency to keep his emotions to himself (whether by his generally flat affect or tendency to listen rather than talk...and the potential speech deficit which really makes this hurt more...), which inevitably leading to them exploding out of him in two bad ways. Basil's own insecurities (seen in his entries in the album) and anxiety (implied by Kel with how Basil running off to the bathroom suddenly is not a new thing), which likely fed off of Sunny's own anxieties and fears in that moment in a recursive loop that led to neither being able to think rationally or calm down in that moment. And there are other things too. Mari's bad knee, which likely prevented her from catching herself. Sunny's fear of heights, likely meaning that by being at the top of the stairs his fight or flight reactions were already primed. There is no single thing that caused this to happen, but rather there was a constellation of factors. This holds true of the aftermath as well. This tragedy isn't solely to blame for Sunny shutting himself away for four years. His own rich imagination, his permissive (at best) or neglectful (at worst) mother, his prior phobias putting him more at risk at developing something like agoraphobia, and so on. Everything about the human mind and human experience is complex. These are obviously both negative examples, but this holds true for developing resilience, confidence, optimism, and so on as well. It is why I personally have some problems with most developmental theories (the stage theories at least). Because so many of them try to tie the development of confidence or hope or will, and so on, to a specific point in life, to a certain challenge or crisis. I find that sort of simplification to be too reductive for my tastes. Everything contributes to our development all the time at all points in our life. This can be daunting, but I find some hope in it too. This means at any point we can intervene and have the ability to affect real positive change in someone's life. No one is unable to improve, to change for the better, and at no point are any of us beyond help. And the fact that there are multiple factors influencing a problem to me means that there are multiple angles we can come at a problem to fix it. I honestly didn't know where I was going with this comment when I started typing it, and I think some of my frustration with some of the reading I have to do for one of my classes leaked out (haha, sorry), but I hope someone finds my ramblings interesting. Thank you so much for these wonderful videos! Always a joy to watch, even when the subject matter itself isn't strictly happy. :)
I mean, developmental theories tríes to make a better outcome for a person to have a healtier growth And while yes, it can be simplistic, as you've said They're múltiple angles to deal, those theories or some of them can give some of those solutions, it might not always work, but it's better than nothing. And yeah, at some point one can interviene and help us, but that's not a given, sometimes the only ones we can save are ourselves and it's a lot harder, but not imposible.
I will say, I am of the mind that the fall probably killed Mari, though I can see some room for doubt there. The room where we check on Mari and it says she isn't breathing seems to imply that that actually happened, but sometimes checking for breathing isn't easy, especially if the person is very injured as their breaths may be shallow or if they have a puncture somewhere along their respiratory system (which seems unlikely to me in this case because I'd expect a LOT of blood). That being said, given the coping mechanisms we know Sunny uses in the future, I would much more expect Sunny to believe Mari is alive when she is obviously dead than Sunny believe Mari is dead when there is some evidence she is alive. If that makes sense. I'd also hope Basil knows how to check if someone is alive if he knows how to...you know...but given the stress of the situation I wouldn't be too shocked if he himself checking didn't cross his mind. Finally, dead people's eyes open. Even if they died with their eyes closed, their eyes can open after death. It depends on some things, but one of the factors is how much pressure there is in the head. More pressure, the eyes are more likely to open. And given the likely head trauma and the, erm, position of the body, I'd imagine there would be quite a bit of pressure there. All that being said, would Sunny and Basil necessarily see it that way? That is an important question if we are talking about their psychology. Also, unrelated: I definitely think Sunny and Basil were just both hallucinating in that room, though Basil talking about what he was seeing was definitely informing what Sunny was seeing. Just too many contradictions in what Sunny and Basil see. When Basil says he sees something all around them, Sunny doesn't see anything. When Sunny is forced back into the room by his hallucination, Basil reacts as if Sunny did that on his own ("yeah, you wouldn't leave me"), Basil doesn't react to being engulfed by a monster thing. They aren't seeing the same thing.
A few things: Omocat went out of her way to put Mari in there, twice, with the description "This person is not breathing." once in the "hospital" room and then in the next room in the bedroom, to clear up what she meant. And then, one of the photos in the hospital area, shows sunny reaching over and shaking her. This picture happens _before_ he sits down at the bedside and cries, covering his face with his hands. So, from what, we can get that they did try to wake Mari up, multiple times, and waited some significant amount of time and spent some time crying and going "what do we do!?". My second point that I want to make, is that I think Basil was/is a boy scout. One, he knows how to tie a rope. Two, he knows how to garden and do nature-y stuff like that, typically the kind of stuff a Scout would learn. If he were a boyscout, I'd think that basic first aid and checking for a pulse would be among the things a Scout would learn.
18:39 In every play through of the game, there is this moment. It is earlier in some then in others but it is always there. That moment after realizing the push where all the pieces fall into place and the realization of the true depth and pain of the ending happens
I believe that the eye on something represents Maris open eye as she hung from the tree, staring back at Sunny Edit: She was asking what the eye represented on something
Duh Ok no, but yeah, "something" represents thenfear and trauma Sunnybfelt when seeing Mari hunged. In the captions of the photos from black spaces, in that photo it says something like: "You turned back just to noticed that see is seeing you back, you are now wishing you hadnt turn back." I think its pretty creepy 😔👊
SPOILERS FOR THE VIDEO When mari fell down the stairs basil saw her body, that's when basil's "something" appeared, it is literally her hair across the floor, sunny's something was born when he was walking away after they both finished doing that to mari's body, he saw her eyes looking back at him, i like to think the somethings are the guilt they both felt, it makes sense to me
I always liked the part where you're in Sunny's house back how it used to be when everything was still okay. The whole game feels like it's Sunny viewing everything from a 3rd person perspective, and he only ever gives really short and deadpan descriptions of things. But at that point he has something to say about pretty much anything that's interactable, talking from a first person view, giving his thoughts and feelings on them. It feels like the first time he's integrated himself into the world through his own eyes, not just a third party observer, which felt really nice to me.
1:19:34 Basil aproached Sunny to make that question personally to him, and we can see Sunny is shy about liking Aubrey(and shy in general) so he probably spoke quietly. Just imagine Basil asking Sunny if he thought Aubrey would be cute in pink hair, him getting shy for liking her and answering more quietly,so Basil has to repeat his answer out loud for the others to hear.
Its actually implied in that the parents figured out the truth....... If you talked to the person who was in the first room when you are collecting the truth photos they say something along the lines, "I lost my daughter you are my only son I can't loose you to". The mother is saying that. In black space you can enter a room with a man cutting down a tree who is Sunny's dad. What he say's is, "Stay away from me you are *not* my son". There's even a piece of text describing a man entering a car and driving away. It's pretty obvious the parents figured everything out which makes things way more sad..... edit: Which would be the reason why Sunny dad left and why Sunny mom distance herself from her son. Although I'm not defending Sunny parent's action (because Sunny is obviously a victim of child neglect and he doesn't deserve that) it's still very sad to know how much the parents suffered from the death of their daughter.
I've wondered if the reason Sunny's mom cares for him at a distance is bc she knows. She doesn't stop loving him and feels concerned for his health, but she might also be struggling with coping around him, especially in that house that haunts them both. :(
I can't wait for the premier. This game is a weird comfort thing for me. I have extremely severe PTSD that it stops me from functioning in the outside world. I relate to both Sunny and Basil, from mulling about bad harm thoughts, attempting a form of harm in the worst way possible, even to the point that when I first walked into school I'd just hide in the bathrooms. I always was infatuated with the idea of me being dead ever since I was 6. Even to the point where I made my mother play games with me regarding that idea. It was the weirdest time ever to think that I would have fun, being dead. My parents aren't the best, nor are they okay. They drink a lot, and get into physical fights. A lot of my trauma has to do with yelling, fighting, people getting in my face, being shunned, even blood. I pretty much retreated into video games I wasn't supposed to have like pokemon, nintendogs, and a lot more Nintendo games for the DS, since that was the easiest to hide. I'd have a ton of nightmares, I still do. A lot of them have to do with houses and a salesman with her gang of scooter police, running away, finding the strangest things on travel. It was weird. Thanks for reading. Sorry I spilled like that.
It's interesting that you say that Basil's the glue that holds the group together. I've always seen Mari as having that role, since her death is what ultimately splits the group, with it affecting each of Sunny's friends differently. Basil, though... as you said, he's super supportive of everyone, and they all clearly care for him, but he and Sunny were the closest to each other, so a lot of what he's done in the past has been for Sunny's sake (i.e. the idea of getting him a violin, and then covering up Mari's death, which he'd done to "save" Sunny from being hated/punished/taken away, hence all the guilt he feels). Sunny's considered the "baby" of their group, too, so there's that protectiveness that they all feel for him, Basil especially. And there's something to be said about the group not really feeling "complete" without him, both in the dream world and the real world. He's a core part of their memories and, to Sunny at least, as important of a person as Mari is, not just because of his ties to their shared trauma. So, maybe you're right; in Mari's absence, he kinda does fill that role as the glue, keeping everyone from falling apart. What's more, up until he gave it away, he's been the one with the photo album, and it's the photo album that brings the friends back together, reminding them of all the good times they had, in the past. It's that same album and those same memories that are giving Sunny the strength he needs, now, to confront all the things that he's been avoiding, all the pain and suffering that he's buried deep inside himself. Anyway, that said, the finale's up next and I'm as excited as I always am! I think you'll really enjoy it.
Yeah, it's the opposite eye. Basically, Basil wound up making Sunny, Mari's oppposite -- her right (our left) eye was open and staring at them, and after Basil stabbed Sunny, his left (our right) eye was the eye that was left. Never really thought about it, but that is kinda interesting. It's also the same eye that Space Boyfriend wears a patch over.
Just wanted to say, i JUST came out as trans (not even 30 minutes ago) and i was accepted, im watching this to calm myself down a little so i dont give myself a heart attack 😅 this series has made me so happy, tysm (family is arguing a little though)
I have to say, even though the theme of the game is how traumatized Sunny is and how it affected him, and you clearly understand how important it is to see people behind actions, I still thank you for not treating him like he did something terrible and so that defines him forever. If you go to wiki and read the descriptions of the Truth photos (whish exists btw, it's just not shown in the game) you'll find that this is what Sunny is and was afraid of the most. That everyone will hate him and turn on him for the truth. Also, in those descriptions it says that Sunny's dissociating very hard, he thinks it's all a dream until the last photos, when he looks back at Mari. He doesn't even fully understand what Basil's suggesting or what they're doing, but he wants things to be okay and that's where Basil and his "everything is going to be okay" comes in. Not to blame Basil, because he literally accidentally saw That and wanted to (probably automatically) help make it "okay" and has a hard time admitting that what happened was done by his best friend ("something behind you" stuff). What i'm saying is, thank you for constantly sayng how sad everything is and treating them like they should be treated, deeply traumatized people who think one horrible thing from the past will define them forever, and really need help
I have been waiting for this moment for forever!! The twist is so freaking well done that if you didn't hunt for clues you would never see it coming, but if you did, it's still not enough to know for sure. That's how you make a plot twist.
LETSS GOOOOO IT FINALLY HAPPENED, ONLY ONE MORE EPISODE TILL THE ENDING. I loved this series and loved every one of your reactions. Thank you for playing this game. I have been waiting a long time for this.
Also I don't know if you know this but there are 5 different main menus I believe. The one from the very beginning, one for black space, one for 1 day left, and 2 at the end depending on your choices
since you mentioned the eye its implied that when he looked back he saw her open eye, thats what the last picture (you blured out) in the montage was implying.
It seems that "everything is goin to be okay" is what basil uses to cope in high stress situations, but from basil using that on the day of the recital, its his trigger
What makes it sad Sunny didn’t mean to push her down the stairs he was so stressed that his emotions blinded him that he didn’t even noticed where Mari was and just wanted her to back off it was only until she hit the broken violin that he realized what happened and went to go get her He was in denial about how severely hurt she was that he hoped she was just unconscious so he brought her to bed But she never woke up which made him guilt ridden and self hatred Basil who had witnessed the whole thing tried to snap Sunny out of it and tried to help him but his mind was too fuzzy to think logically as Basil and Sunny were just kids
i like how Hero is all like..best at everything and mature and responsible but with Mari... he is "weak" sorta speak? like she easily makes him blush ect. she have this access through his mature and confident facade) i mean..its usual thing when you like someone soo much)
The end is nigh! We’ll cheer you on from here, so play the music, SUNNY! (On another note, I think it’s cool how fast you figured out the pictures. Basil was just trying to protect Sunny, and the general head cannon is that the black and white “ghost Mari” that went through the big window in the dream world is trying to help Sunny move on.) May the piano chime in your tune, and have a good day!
27:21 I've always found this part interesting Other times it asks/implies this question, you have to save Basil from other people or things But this time you have to save Basil from himself (Neutral Ending Spoilers) If you don't save Basil here, he kills himself Since the somethings are hallucinations, you really are just saving Basil from suicide
Sunny is basically emaciated and unarmed Basil is significantly healthier than him and is armed with garden shears And yet they both end up hospitalized Sunny sure can throw down if need be
Aubrey’s dad didn’t stop caring; he left. It’s part of why Aubrey was having such a rough time when Mari died, and her mom either was alcoholic or became so at that time.
I personally subscribe to the "she died from the fall" theory because it hurts less. The best explanation I've seen for why her eyes are open assuming that is because rigor mortis had set in, causing the yes to open.
(spoiler) prior to the fight, it's clear that Basil whas always in denial. he believes that Sunny, His best friend, is a good person, so he couldn't have done these terrible things (pushing mary, scribing his photos ...) so in his mind, what actually did it whas "something" that he doesn't know what it is. because of this denial that he had the idea of ... you know what '-' ... so Sunny wouldn't have to take the blame, because: "he is a good person and wouldn't do this, so it's not his fault". he probably sees the "something" that haunt Sunny because he also saw dead Mary with a open eye that whasn't covered by her hair and, because of both trauma and denial, assossiated this as the culprit of everything that happened that day.
The dark thing behind Sunny is Mari, because when they hang her in the three her face was covered by her hair and you could see only her eye, that last image of Mari was impressed in Sunny's mind, that dark thing represents Mari and the fear Sunny has of remembering what happened that day.
Implying that previous moments in-game haven't already wrecked our hearts. Because they sure wrecked mine! Ha.. ha.. Really, though, once I realized what "the truth" actually was, I had to stop playing for a moment. I was so damn shocked.
I think a lot about the way you contextualize Mari "talking" to Sunny here, as him imagining the words that he wishes he could hear from her, rather than it being her actual words. It's something I've found myself in the habit of doing when grappling with a loss that I haven't fully processed yet. Like you said, it's sad that we crave that closure we can never have, but crave it nonetheless.
"...The Truth might be hard for you to accept, yet even if it does hurt you, I will be here for you, a place for you to tell your story, and lighten your burden. I will remain here, ready for everything you're about to tell, ready to be happy again, ready to be..." -A Fragment of Forgotten Hope.
Basil is actively attacking sunny with gardening shears during the fight. Sunny actively filters out the perception of the attacks due to sheer trauma.
@AUBREY I don't think Sunny can do much harm without that steak knife. 4 years of nothing but sleep and I assume minimal time to eat or move about should have him frail himself as well. You can see this in the fights prior. Nobody actually targets Sunny until Kel is out of the count, and when they do he's out of the picture even faster than Kel making a slam dunk while Aubrey is under the basketball hoop.
I don't think he is. Basil only physically attacks Sunny back at the very end of the fight after Sunny has beaten him, by stabbing him in the eye with his shears. The earlier portions of the fight are literally just Basil trying to talk to him, 'reaching inside of him', trying to pull out the trauma. Sunny is probably trying to push him away both physically and mentally for most of it, and when he transitions into the stressed out phase, he is actively physically attacking Basil, which is why he's asking him to stop.
@AUBREY Yeah I'm fairly certain Basil is pretty much just grazing him at this point, because he's not actively aiming at Sunny, but Sunny is too stressed out to realize it and fights back to defend himself. It's why the one time Basil does aim for him, it's critical and Sunny's out.
I just found out about your channel and this series a couple days ago and I've been super hyped for this to come out!!! THE TRUTH!!!! edit: it's big emotional hours and we're not even done
I could relate with Sunny and Mari's dynamic. I grew up in an alcoholic household. My mom is disabled, so my sister (who was 11 years older than me) was practically my parental figure. She went to my PTA meetings, all my school stuff.... I see a lot of my loving sister in Mari. I looks like Mari took up the role her parents were neglecting. He didn't just lose his sister, he lost his mother figure, too.
18:10 - yes, these photos do have descriptions, they are in the game code, but they are not shown in the game. If you search up the truth section in omori wiki, these descriptions are written there.
The card game seems to be blackjack. Sunny's hand was an ace and an ace. Aces can stand for either 1, or 11, so Sunny would have a hand of 2, 12, or 22, not very useful for reaching 21!
It's interesting that Hero and Basil wound up tying the game. Basil had a Jack and an Ace which comes out to 21, and Hero had... what was it, 2 face cards (I forget which) and an ace which is also 21. This is incredibly rare in blackjack to have 2 people hit blackjack on the same round.
Maybe this is variant rules or something but in all times I have played blackjack a pair of Aces had to always have a value of 12, with the logic being that one Ace had to be a 1 and the other had to be an 11. In most blackjack games and tables, a hand of ace treated as 1 and then any combination of cards that equals 19, and then drawing another Ace would bust you. Also presuming this game doesn't have a "house" they're playing against, Basil would be the winner, cause he reached 21 with the fewest cards, even though Hero also scored 21!
This series has been a pleasure to watch, (I 100%ed the game myself!) and it's incredible in both an alarming and writing sense how much I could see myself relating to at least some of these characters, reminds me of some things that I have unresolved in my life that I've got the means to fix now!
I think the road is literally the road to the concert hall the recital was supposed to be at. Sunny might have been there before, so he remembers the way.
It's actually Memory Lane, because if you save at either of the two Picnic Baskets, the Location literally says "Memory Lane". That's why, when I was watching I was like "SAVE SAVE SAVE!" wanting her to save and see that.
“There’s no way out of this, is there?” That line always gets me, especially bc I can relate (I struggle with anxiety and an eating disorder). When you’re dealing with trauma or a mental issue, especially as a child, it truly feels like there’s no way out. I just want to hug Sunny and Basil :(
undoubtedly, youve become like, my 2nd favorite youtuber of all time. youre such a cool lady and your content is SO funny n awesome, not to mention youre currently doing a game that had changed my life. your content is so sick and i cant wait to see whats next!
I just want to say, in the moment you found out what really happened. I really appreciated that your first instinct more than shock at the realisation, was sympathy for the people carrying that burden. The moment of quiet sympathy really stuck with me when I think about this game.
"Something behind you" is just Basil's way of rationalizing Sunny's actions in his mind. It's not anything supernatural.
And Basil has a something of himself
But they attack each other with darkness/something
@@adhiprajna4127 It's all just their imaginations. Take the delusions away and it's just two boys beating each other with fists and a garden shear
@@adhiprajna4127 at this point, they are both hallucinating as they fight. The fights are from Sunny's perspective
@@cooldoggo58 oh
Does that mean the eye stab is the only part that are real
"Can I just go back to bed?" Oh GOD that was close
i got a little stressed when she said that 😅
That really scared me a lot, i was like nopenopenopenope
i nearly had a heart attack
it felt like as if my soul was leaving my body with that one question. i dont wanna see basil dead and kel crying again.
but she'd knew that every deceased friend sunny has, it makes his prespective that their rooms dont exist/disappears from his view
I was so scared
fun fact: the noose knot is used for hanging plants. it’s likely this is why basil knew how to make one.
That makes more sense! Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Basil saying that "Something behind you" did it is just Basil being in denial
Spoilers
Yeah.
JUST REALIZED BASIL WAS DEMONSTRATING THE 5 STAGES OF GRIEF WHEN SUNNY CHECKED ON HIM
Dont forget he may be referring to Marry
@@shabamhakimpour1312 I mean every character is the embodiment of a stage of grief
@@lmao8447yeah
Sunny = Denial
Aubrey = anger
Basil = bargaining
Hero = depression
Kel = acceptance
1:18:42: "MARI and I were talking about dying our hair together. MARI says she's going to dye her hair purple." .... ever wonder why everybody in Headspace is purple-hued except Basil, why the sky is purple, why the ground is some hue of purple, and even the trees are a green with some purple mixed in?
YOOOOOOO- I DID NOT THINK OF THAT
And purple guy too-
And Barney
@@wateringbasilwithsunny307 Sunny is the man behind the slaughter
@@_aneggonacreek4925 *the child
Fun Fact: In the game files, the truth photos do actually have descriptions. I’m pretty sure you can find them on the wiki. It gets dark. REAL dark.
As someone who has surfed the Photo Album on the wiki and never heard of this, I'm going to look now. See you later, hopefully I don't get more trauma from this game-
@@AstroHunny88 tell us how much more devastated u are after u read em...
@@AstroHunny88 yes tell
@@basilbat273 how bad is it???
@@cryingrn343 haven't seen yet :p
I love that Sunny stops dissociating in that memory sequence. He finally speaks in the first person again and associates the memories with his own person.
Yeah, we finally get to see how he really thinks and feels! It's... bittersweet, like everything else.
And also how the logs have the first person pronoun "I" there instead of just pure description 🥺
"Can I go back to sleep?"
Me *hiperventilating*: DONT
Maybe on a second pass..but umm “viewer beware, your in for a scare!”. Lol *troll face meme
@@KunoichiPeri what?
LIKE YES BUT ALSO PLEASE NO
The worst part is that she didn't save before she almost tried to do it
Fam I almost yelled, I can’t see Kel cry again, I just can’t 😭😭
Fun fact: Although it's obscured by menus, basil's fightsprite is holding garden shears :D
And the last frame of that battle before you fall unconscious (though I'm sure you noticed from your expression) Sunny had one eye closed, which also blacked out half the screen. Physical damage! D:
That emoticon is so cursed
@@TodosLocosOfficial it should be this one D.
yeah! i just got stabbed in the eye by my best friend :D
@@fendy5124 .D
The final piece of the puzzle. Sunny's internalizing didn't start after Mari's death - it had been happening *well before it and was a constant personality trait.* A shy kid with low self esteem always listening to everyone else's problems and never vocalizing his own. A kid too afraid of letting his sister and friends down to tell them how he really felt. Sunny's low self esteem hurt him so badly. He didn't tell his sister he was getting frustrated with violin. He didn't tell Kel and Hero that he didn't want to try jumping into the lake. He didn't ever speak his mind because he couldn't bear the idea of hurting his friends. Sunny as a character is probably one of the most empathetic members of the cast, to a fault. He bottled up all his emotions instead of sharing with his friends until they boiled over and he threw his violin in a fit of anger.
Aww that's so sad and relatable, I want to hug him so bad mlsdn
Yeah, I'm kinda projecting myself into him because of that.
@@Shyder same, and this comment right now made it so clear to me. Putting Sunny and game aside, this hits me on a personal level that i didnt knew about, or choose to be oblivious to it. Now i can try to fix this mistake i have been repeating over and over, and let go this burden once for all.
Man, i feel like i have found a way to go after being in the dark for so long...
@ApexGale i know that ur explanation wasn't intended to something like this lol but i must really, really thank you for this comment
"At least we're not attacking with knives"
whelp
Well she wasn’t wrong… it was gardening shears!
Sunny is figthing with his fist.
Basil is fighting with his fist AND a shear.
mari with the bad knee....that's where it came in. that's the reason it was mentioned. it wasnt necessarily shown he pushed her down the stairs, more pushed her away. which... is a direct mirror to aubrey pushing basil in the lake now that im thinking about it
also, the eye... well. her eye opened post-mortem and scarred him
Mari had the bad knee and wasn't able to catch herself--parallel to--Basil not being able to swim. I love the mirroring of those two scenes, the foreshadowing in this game is magnificent.
You know what's a perfect mirror? Aubrey and Kel pushing Basil in headspace, causing Basil to fall to the ground and Basil responding "It's okay. Accidents happen"
SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO DIDNT FINISH THE VIDEO:
Basil is the one who decided to hang Mari, Sunny was completely out of it when he realized Mari was dead and just went along with it. Sunny took no part with hanging Mari except for carrying her with Basil. Basil was the one who hung Mari up.
thank you for this
Important Note: Basil did it all to protect Sunny as he was deeply afraid of what would happen if the truth came out and of what would happen to Sunny (they were only 12, and Basil severely catastrophized).
@@ladynoluck yeah im pretty sure basil also didnt process what he was doing..?? I think at that time all he was thinking about was help sunny
@@ladynoluck Yesssss! Thanks for mentioning that!
@@yoimiyasparkler yup
The person you missed on the couch at the beginning was Sunny's mom and she says "I just lost my only daughter and, you your my only son, I can't lose you too."
Ah i see you Anon :)
I feel like Sunny parents know what happens and that why that scene was with a man cutting down a tree who saying "you a not my son"
@@kumakibbs Fancy meeting you here.
@@GreatGreenLeo There is a good chance that they did know.
@@GreatGreenLeo note that the line “You are not my son” was directed at Omori, not Sunny. SPOILER
Omori is the real monster here.
That circle of ‘violins’ you mentioned, I actually noticed just now (even after playing through that route twice LMAO) that they’re not violins. They’re fingers that all point at Sunny because in his mind, he believes that everyone will turn on him and hate him for knowing the truth. My guess it’s a way of saying that he can’t escape what he believes to be inevitable.
yea its like him realizing what he did, and it was "his fault" (even though it was an accident)
HELP- I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT THEY WERE HANDS 😭😭
i thought they were pupils 😢
Order of Events (as far as we know):
Day of the recital:
- Sunny and Mari have argument
- Sunny *accidentally* pushes Mari
- Basil is there to see it happen
- They carry her up to her bed
- She doesn't wake up
- Basil has an idea to make sure no one thinks this is Sunny's fault
- They carry her downstairs
- They make it look like * ahem * happened instead
- Sunny looks back and sees Mari, and that image is burned into his memory
- Sunny marks up all the pictures in the book, because all he sees of Mari is Something Behind Him
- Basil knows this happens, but denies it ever happened
- Sunny is a good person, so it _had_ to have been something behind him that did the bad things
Years later:
- Aubrey goes over to Basil's house
- She sees the marked up photos
- Basil does not reveal the truth
- Aubrey takes the album and starts bullying him
- Aubrey cleans the photos of the marker
I got the impression that the marker incident happened not long after Mari's death. And Aubrey found the photos not long after that. Maybe a few months later. Meaning she and the Hooligans bullied Basil for years. I don't think that was just a recent thing. Am I wrong?
I think Sunny carrying her to the bed alone and then Basil just came in and like "i see you have a problem here i know a perfect solution!"
@@GreatGreenLeo Possibly, but since all of the photos are from Basil's POV, it just seems weird that he would see that watch it happen, and then just walk up the stairs after the two of them without helping.
no, in the game files there’s a longer video of the basil looking up cutscene that shows what he’s freaked out by is mari’s body. he saw the whole thing.
It was not that much later that Aubrey visited, but a short while after Sunny stopped coming to school.
Basil has very sublte development. He has a caretaker and his parents arent around, he has anxiety issues and the only relative that cared for him, his grandma is bedrriden and is implied dead at the end of the 3rd day. And after the truth it is revealed he is going through a lot more. What kind of kid knows how to make a noose? What kind of kid would go through dealing with manslauther to 'save' his friend? His development is soooo different to the others but i enjoy it so much.
Also the fact Sunny doesn't want to think about him at all.
mari teached him how to tie a noose for his flowers...
@25:48: "Can I go back to bed" .... yes. Yes, you can. IF you want the most horrible and heart-wrenching thing you've ever seen in a video game. (SPOILERS!!)
You wake back up to find Basil decided to end it all, and all of your friends in the hallway crying outside of his room, Aubrey thinks he did it because of her bullying, Kel is bawling in tears asking why does this keep happening to us, and Hero is on the verge of breaking down himself, and Polly is asking herself why she is so useless. Sunny peeks in, and then closes the door and promptly erases the door from existence in his mind, saying "There is nothing here." It's... terrible. Horrible. I saw it on someone's Let's Play and I wish I hadn't.
nah, sunny
falling down the hospital is better :)
And me, like an idiot, decided to just go back to my house instead... Oh well. At least I didn't experience it
I was so worried for a sec that she'd actually go back to sleep, but then she didn't. I hate that ending so, so much.
@@paper2222 Clothes
And it's even more horrible with what comes next.
Warning: Rereading what I wrote, there is some sensitive topics mentions that can be triggering to those experiencing the same issues I have dealt with so discretion is advise.
It feel slightly odd to say this publicly, however I honestly feel safe to say this here. I heavily relate with the game overall and especially Sunny. Throughout my childhood and early adolescent, I was dealing with a serious kidney infection that always came back no matter what medication or treatment I received. There were so many close calls where if I didn't go to the hospital it would've been fatal. Because of my illness, I couldn't go to school frequently or see my friends anymore. My parents fought more and blamed each other for my condition while I was in earshot, and I remember thinking "if only I wasn't ever sick" so many times.
Eventually, I ended up having problems at school where technically I was considered a delinquent due to the amount of absences I had, people who I thought were friends completely ignored me saying "yeah but you won't be here tomorrow." and my teachers scoffed me off because I wasn't caught up with the rest because it was more work for them. Not every teacher was like this of course, but the ones who had their issues with me expressed it enough that I could clearly see despite how dense I am. I felt utterly alone and abandon by people who I thought I could trust.
I was 12 when this happened, and I vividly remember "I am going to die eventually from my illness, there is no point for looking forward to the future, why bother coming out of my home anymore?" and because of that, and what was happening around me, I shut myself in for two years. I absolutely refused to go to school, get up, eat or even do anything that I loved doing before. I couldn't play anymore, I couldn't talk anymore, and I couldn't make art anymore. My parents screamed at me to get up or to do something, anything. Their worry became anger after the first week of this. I had suicidal thoughts, and I remember I gave myself a time limit on how long I'll live if my sickness didn't get to me first, when I get to said date I'll try and off myself. Every time that date came, I always got too scared and say I'll do it another day.
I blamed myself for everything. Getting sick, causing problems at school, having my parents fight every night, how my classmates saw me as that "Girl who will die soon", I just hated and kept it all inside. I hated myself for being so "weak" and "pathetic". I couldn't talk to this to my parents. I tried so many times but to them, they saw it as me making excuses to just not go to school anymore and be a lazy pig. The most painful thing I've ever heard my parents say is telling me to go die. They knew what going on with my health and so it just, made me shut down even more.
It's strange to recall this and see how many years it's been since then, I'm doing a lot better now thankfully. Health wise I'm alright, just not as spry as I once was. I still don't have any friends, but I'm alright with that. I have an incredible Boyfriend who has helped me and encourage me to go on living in his own ways. Being with him made me want to change and get better for our sakes. He's someone I love and I can confidently say is my best friend. I am receiving therapy and slowly processing all that I've experienced and dealt with, which is one of the reasons why I am able to write this.
Playing Omori, it felt like I was seeing a mirror. I related strongly with all of these characters and how Sunny uses escapism to cope with what happened. To dream away from everything and to just simply forget and be in that certain bliss you can create in your mind. Alongside that, it showed how difficult it is to heal and forgive yourself. How it might be easier to hate who and what you are, and be in that repeating cycle. However, in the end I can say it's worth that journey and I'm glad Omori sends that message too. Reading what I wrote I think you can see certain things that are mention/shown in Omori, but I don't know. I feel like a fool for pouring my heart out online, but I'll stick with my decision on posting this comment.
To those who read all of this, thank you. I hope you're doing well out there. Things will get better. It took me awhile to learn this, but trust me that it will. It just takes time and patience.
This was so emotional. Good luck to you in your life and I hope you nothing but best!
Thanks for sharing your story with us, and for staying strong for so long! Best of wishes and all the happiness you deserve to ya. ^^
why didn't you just eat the infected kidney 🙄
I respect your courage. You did great, writing all this !
@@itsoracle What!?
In Omori, there are four unique emotional states: Neutral, Happy, Angry, and Sad.
Kel responded to Mari's death by staying happy. He found ways to avoid the trauma by finding new friends and hobbies.
Hero responded to Mari's death with sadness. He fell into a deep depression, until Kel brought him out of it.
Aubrey responded to Mari's death with anger. She lashed out at her friends, feeling they abandoned her.
Sunny responded to Mari's death with neutrality. He locked himself away from the outside world and shut his trauma away.
In fact, when the emotional rock-paper-scissors triangle is shown way earlier, those four characters are used to represent those four emotions exactly. You can check.
However, there's a fifth emotion. It's only used as a negative status effect and in some scripted battles, like the various Something encounters. And it just so happens there's a fifth friend in the group.
Because Basil responded to Mari's death by being *afraid*. Afraid that Sunny would be held accountable for it. Framing Mari's death as suicide was Basil's idea, to keep Sunny safe.
An interesting detail.
Technically speaking, in most games, "Dead" is actually handled in the same way as status effects, so mari is the 6th friend with the 6th status of toast. I doubt this is intentional, I personally think it's kind of hillarious in a twisted way.
I love how respectful this content creator is can we all take a moment to appreciate that😭❤
I KNOW RIGHT
OMG HI I SUBBED
It's a counselor, so ofc she is! 😌👏👏👏
YESS AGREED
also unrelated but nice pfp,,,
@@fishmaels omg thanks jvgdgxhvjb I love your pfp too!
THE WAY SHE PREDICTED EVERYTHING PERFECTION
From pushing Mari down to making it look like [redacted]. To realizing that the Something looks the way it does.
Omori: “Two Kids having Panic Attacks next to Each Other”
Honestly yeah that’s fairly accurate.
Yooo, I made the likes 69
Something to note, Omori kind of implies that ghosts exist in Sunny's world, with stuff like that grave keeper (talking about the spirits howling), Basil's grandmother (out in the street and then fading away when Basil rushes home from the hospital) and Mari (Sunny and Hero both hearing the piano music, neither of them playing), aswell.
Yes though the funny thing is the ghost never seems scary or trying to hurt sunny. Everytime they do like with the long neck mari. It seems to be sunny trauma messing with what he saw so instead of seeing mari trying to help him. He sees a disfigured version of her as he tries to actively repress the idea that mari is dead. With his trauma further distorting her...its sad tbh
@@partygamingz3332 Hellmari (the distorted, broken necked one) is definitely a hallucination from my perspective, but i think Longmari (the tall one that appears behind sunny in the mirror after she plays) is the 'real' deal.
Despite her image being distorted by sunny's mind or the mirror, I think her presence would be a weird sort of comforting to sunny.
@@TMHedgehog she’s called longmari adjksdjsgsdgs I always called her tallmari
The game leaves it pretty open ended if Spirit Mari is actually really Mari's spirit, or just another aspect of Mari in his psyche, but I'd really, REALLY like to think that Mari's final act before passing on fully was saving her brother from his guilt.
Maybe after Sunny has lived a long, fulfilling life, Mari will be there waiting for him on her picnic blanket, ready to tell him how proud she is of him.
I realized that too. Now I'm going to go cry.
I believe sunny sees the eye as judgment from Mari. Being SEEN does so much to us psychologically, even if we just THINK we are being seen. It's why self serve checkouts have the screen letting you know you're being watched. (The Hawthorne Effect.)
So whether or not Sunny thought Mari was alive isn't really as important as the symbolism from being seen by her eye.
Yeah its sadly a recurring theme that the adults of Faraway tend to not be for their children when they need them the most. If Sunny's parents had been at their house they could have maybe defused the argument before it escalated into a fight, or at least know to not move a person who has sustained trauma to the spine and instead call the ambulance immediately. After the accident, it is vaguely implied that Sunny's parents found out the truth but didn't speak to the police. Instead, the father left the family, and the mother stayed as far as possible from Sunny without directly abandoning him, not even helping him eat properly as he became a shut-in due to his trauma.
In the case of Basil's parents, they were said to be absent for long periods of time, maybe even years. This probably led Basil to develop deep attachment issues, and when faced with the possibility of Sunny going to jail for manslaughter, his best and closest friend, leaving him alone and abandoning him, his mind saw hiding the evidence of Sunny's involvement as the only solution. This proved to, in the end, cause the opposite of what he wanted, turning a tragic accident into a crime they could never speak about, denying his friends any explanation or closure, and driving everyone apart.
I think Aubrey nearly ended up in the same situation as Sunny when she pushed Basil, but both Basil and she were lucky that Basil could have been saved, while Mari couldn't be. Both Sunny and Aubrey are kinda parallel in this, both acted in frustration and anxiety with no intent of real harm, but we see what happens on both ends.
In a alternate world, omocat creates an ending where you are asked "Do you want to save Mari?" but picking "Yes" just plays the sound when you pick an impossible action (like trying to run from Basil).
26:05 when Sunny looked back at Mari's life-less body 24:58, her eye was open and staring back at him.
I'm pretty sure sunny going down the road is supposed to be a "trip down memory lane"
That area is literally called "Memory Lane." Saving at any of the picnic baskets will show the area name.
1:04:28 “Don’t stand in the middle of the road, Sunny.” you are so sweet and caring. it’s so endearing
46:13 she says something similar. I love this lady I wish she was my therapist /p /gen
26:05
(spoiler)
in the very last "photo", you can see that Sunny looked at Mary and she had a open eye that whasn't covered by her hair.
that's the "something" that haunts Sunny, the vision of his dead sister looking at hin ... judging hin for what he had done to her.
This is the horror in the game. This is the most f***ed up and tragic thing I've ever seen in fiction. None of these kids deserve any of this pain.
Heheh, yeah, Black Space is just the light stuff to get you warmed up. XD
Something I want to point out is that maybe Basil/Sunny read that in a book. If we consider Sunny knows the word "pulchritudinous" or whatever, is cuz they probably found it in a book. In one of Basil's photos he shows Sunny the book he was reading. And considering this was probably before or in the early 2000's, they probably still were in a more "book" era
I think this is one of the most interesting games to watch Let's Plays of, particularly the truth segment. It's a heavy moment and players have their own, often very strong responses to it. I don't think I've seen anyone yet that displayed not shock, but just empathy, quite like you did.
Thank you for this series. Can't wait to see you smash that recital!
the truth sequence made me physically ill from imagining what it would be like to be in sunny's place
Very true, it is rare to find anyone with that kind of response to the truth sequence.
If you would like another OMORI Let's Play with an interesting truth sequence response may I suggest Michaela Laws' OMORI Let's Play.
"everything is going to be okay" is the trigger line of sunny, and the calm line for basil
Not really a calm line if Basil is unable to calm down from it, tbh it is more of a sweet nothing
ive been waiting for this moment my whole life…
It is time, friend
@@thegmredditor1573 it is my time
CLOSE
@@floofsartstudio9537 your eyes
@@crazycoil6024 you'll be here soon
I've tried to type this comment multiple times, but it is hard to properly formulate the words after watching the truth sequence again. While I tend to have a rather high tolerance for disturbing content, probably because I've been an avid fan of horror for as long as I can remember so I've grown habituated to a lot of it, many aspects of this game's characters and events manage to hit somewhere close to home for me, and this sequence always manages to evoke some emotional reaction in me.
That being said, now onto the meat of what I wanted to talk about.
Firstly, I think it is important for people to understand that rarely is it ever just one thing that causes something. Whether it be events in history, our lives, or aspects of our psychology, you'll find as you analyze these things that there were an array of events and factors that played a part in making them happen. I think it can be easy for fans of this game to place the blame for what happened on one particular thing, whether it be the recital, Basil, people's parents...but I think it is important to understand that there were a lot of different factors at play here.
The worse parts of everyone's personalities I think came out and fed into this event. Mari's perfectionism, fed by the social pressure inherent in putting on a recital combined with the success of the recital being reliant not just on her performance but also on the performance of her relatively inexperienced little brother. Sunny's own anxiety and tendency to keep his emotions to himself (whether by his generally flat affect or tendency to listen rather than talk...and the potential speech deficit which really makes this hurt more...), which inevitably leading to them exploding out of him in two bad ways. Basil's own insecurities (seen in his entries in the album) and anxiety (implied by Kel with how Basil running off to the bathroom suddenly is not a new thing), which likely fed off of Sunny's own anxieties and fears in that moment in a recursive loop that led to neither being able to think rationally or calm down in that moment.
And there are other things too. Mari's bad knee, which likely prevented her from catching herself. Sunny's fear of heights, likely meaning that by being at the top of the stairs his fight or flight reactions were already primed. There is no single thing that caused this to happen, but rather there was a constellation of factors.
This holds true of the aftermath as well. This tragedy isn't solely to blame for Sunny shutting himself away for four years. His own rich imagination, his permissive (at best) or neglectful (at worst) mother, his prior phobias putting him more at risk at developing something like agoraphobia, and so on. Everything about the human mind and human experience is complex. These are obviously both negative examples, but this holds true for developing resilience, confidence, optimism, and so on as well.
It is why I personally have some problems with most developmental theories (the stage theories at least). Because so many of them try to tie the development of confidence or hope or will, and so on, to a specific point in life, to a certain challenge or crisis. I find that sort of simplification to be too reductive for my tastes. Everything contributes to our development all the time at all points in our life.
This can be daunting, but I find some hope in it too. This means at any point we can intervene and have the ability to affect real positive change in someone's life. No one is unable to improve, to change for the better, and at no point are any of us beyond help. And the fact that there are multiple factors influencing a problem to me means that there are multiple angles we can come at a problem to fix it.
I honestly didn't know where I was going with this comment when I started typing it, and I think some of my frustration with some of the reading I have to do for one of my classes leaked out (haha, sorry), but I hope someone finds my ramblings interesting. Thank you so much for these wonderful videos! Always a joy to watch, even when the subject matter itself isn't strictly happy. :)
I love this. Your rambling is very much appreciated.
I mean, developmental theories tríes to make a better outcome for a person to have a healtier growth
And while yes, it can be simplistic, as you've said They're múltiple angles to deal, those theories or some of them can give some of those solutions, it might not always work, but it's better than nothing.
And yeah, at some point one can interviene and help us, but that's not a given, sometimes the only ones we can save are ourselves and it's a lot harder, but not imposible.
I will say, I am of the mind that the fall probably killed Mari, though I can see some room for doubt there. The room where we check on Mari and it says she isn't breathing seems to imply that that actually happened, but sometimes checking for breathing isn't easy, especially if the person is very injured as their breaths may be shallow or if they have a puncture somewhere along their respiratory system (which seems unlikely to me in this case because I'd expect a LOT of blood).
That being said, given the coping mechanisms we know Sunny uses in the future, I would much more expect Sunny to believe Mari is alive when she is obviously dead than Sunny believe Mari is dead when there is some evidence she is alive. If that makes sense. I'd also hope Basil knows how to check if someone is alive if he knows how to...you know...but given the stress of the situation I wouldn't be too shocked if he himself checking didn't cross his mind.
Finally, dead people's eyes open. Even if they died with their eyes closed, their eyes can open after death. It depends on some things, but one of the factors is how much pressure there is in the head. More pressure, the eyes are more likely to open. And given the likely head trauma and the, erm, position of the body, I'd imagine there would be quite a bit of pressure there.
All that being said, would Sunny and Basil necessarily see it that way? That is an important question if we are talking about their psychology.
Also, unrelated: I definitely think Sunny and Basil were just both hallucinating in that room, though Basil talking about what he was seeing was definitely informing what Sunny was seeing. Just too many contradictions in what Sunny and Basil see. When Basil says he sees something all around them, Sunny doesn't see anything. When Sunny is forced back into the room by his hallucination, Basil reacts as if Sunny did that on his own ("yeah, you wouldn't leave me"), Basil doesn't react to being engulfed by a monster thing. They aren't seeing the same thing.
A few things: Omocat went out of her way to put Mari in there, twice, with the description "This person is not breathing." once in the "hospital" room and then in the next room in the bedroom, to clear up what she meant. And then, one of the photos in the hospital area, shows sunny reaching over and shaking her. This picture happens _before_ he sits down at the bedside and cries, covering his face with his hands. So, from what, we can get that they did try to wake Mari up, multiple times, and waited some significant amount of time and spent some time crying and going "what do we do!?".
My second point that I want to make, is that I think Basil was/is a boy scout. One, he knows how to tie a rope. Two, he knows how to garden and do nature-y stuff like that, typically the kind of stuff a Scout would learn. If he were a boyscout, I'd think that basic first aid and checking for a pulse would be among the things a Scout would learn.
18:39 In every play through of the game, there is this moment. It is earlier in some then in others but it is always there. That moment after realizing the push where all the pieces fall into place and the realization of the true depth and pain of the ending happens
I believe that the eye on something represents Maris open eye as she hung from the tree, staring back at Sunny
Edit: She was asking what the eye represented on something
Duh
Ok no, but yeah, "something" represents thenfear and trauma Sunnybfelt when seeing Mari hunged. In the captions of the photos from black spaces, in that photo it says something like: "You turned back just to noticed that see is seeing you back, you are now wishing you hadnt turn back." I think its pretty creepy 😔👊
that´s what happens without the blurry effect
Rigor mortis.
18:41
You put it all together really fast
I had a feeling you would but wow *claps* :)
She just speedrunning it
It doesn't take a genius to get it though
@@Manilove223
I didn’t figure it out till I saw all the photos 😂
So any faster is impressive to me
@@maddyg123_ I'm sorry 😂
ITS FINALLY TIME LETS GOOOOOO
just wanna say, i love this series, and ill be watching more of your content as well!
SPOILERS FOR THE VIDEO
When mari fell down the stairs basil saw her body, that's when basil's "something" appeared, it is literally her hair across the floor, sunny's something was born when he was walking away after they both finished doing that to mari's body, he saw her eyes looking back at him, i like to think the somethings are the guilt they both felt, it makes sense to me
I always thought Basil’s something was the trees when they were walking outside, and the part eating basil was the "stump"
OH MY GOD YOU’RE RIGHT
I always liked the part where you're in Sunny's house back how it used to be when everything was still okay. The whole game feels like it's Sunny viewing everything from a 3rd person perspective, and he only ever gives really short and deadpan descriptions of things. But at that point he has something to say about pretty much anything that's interactable, talking from a first person view, giving his thoughts and feelings on them. It feels like the first time he's integrated himself into the world through his own eyes, not just a third party observer, which felt really nice to me.
1:19:34 Basil aproached Sunny to make that question personally to him, and we can see Sunny is shy about liking Aubrey(and shy in general) so he probably spoke quietly. Just imagine Basil asking Sunny if he thought Aubrey would be cute in pink hair, him getting shy for liking her and answering more quietly,so Basil has to repeat his answer out loud for the others to hear.
He knew his best friend so well…
26:24 it’s an exaggeration of Mari’s eye sort of poking out of the hair in a way
Its actually implied in that the parents figured out the truth.......
If you talked to the person who was in the first room when you are collecting the truth photos they say something along the lines, "I lost my daughter you are my only son I can't loose you to". The mother is saying that.
In black space you can enter a room with a man cutting down a tree who is Sunny's dad. What he say's is, "Stay away from me you are *not* my son".
There's even a piece of text describing a man entering a car and driving away.
It's pretty obvious the parents figured everything out which makes things way more sad.....
edit: Which would be the reason why Sunny dad left and why Sunny mom distance herself from her son. Although I'm not defending Sunny parent's action (because Sunny is obviously a victim of child neglect and he doesn't deserve that) it's still very sad to know how much the parents suffered from the death of their daughter.
I've wondered if the reason Sunny's mom cares for him at a distance is bc she knows. She doesn't stop loving him and feels concerned for his health, but she might also be struggling with coping around him, especially in that house that haunts them both. :(
@@Ace_Maus which is probably why they're moving
@@lionelladvelino4795 and the mother doesnt even dare to get out of the car when picking out Sunny on the last day
Maybe
Fathers who abandon their children are bad, but in this case, Sunny’s father had the right to do so. Poor guy couldn’t cope.
I can't wait for the premier. This game is a weird comfort thing for me. I have extremely severe PTSD that it stops me from functioning in the outside world. I relate to both Sunny and Basil, from mulling about bad harm thoughts, attempting a form of harm in the worst way possible, even to the point that when I first walked into school I'd just hide in the bathrooms.
I always was infatuated with the idea of me being dead ever since I was 6. Even to the point where I made my mother play games with me regarding that idea. It was the weirdest time ever to think that I would have fun, being dead.
My parents aren't the best, nor are they okay. They drink a lot, and get into physical fights. A lot of my trauma has to do with yelling, fighting, people getting in my face, being shunned, even blood.
I pretty much retreated into video games I wasn't supposed to have like pokemon, nintendogs, and a lot more Nintendo games for the DS, since that was the easiest to hide.
I'd have a ton of nightmares, I still do. A lot of them have to do with houses and a salesman with her gang of scooter police, running away, finding the strangest things on travel. It was weird.
Thanks for reading. Sorry I spilled like that.
The “spotlight” is a circle of pointing fingers
It's interesting that you say that Basil's the glue that holds the group together. I've always seen Mari as having that role, since her death is what ultimately splits the group, with it affecting each of Sunny's friends differently. Basil, though... as you said, he's super supportive of everyone, and they all clearly care for him, but he and Sunny were the closest to each other, so a lot of what he's done in the past has been for Sunny's sake (i.e. the idea of getting him a violin, and then covering up Mari's death, which he'd done to "save" Sunny from being hated/punished/taken away, hence all the guilt he feels). Sunny's considered the "baby" of their group, too, so there's that protectiveness that they all feel for him, Basil especially. And there's something to be said about the group not really feeling "complete" without him, both in the dream world and the real world. He's a core part of their memories and, to Sunny at least, as important of a person as Mari is, not just because of his ties to their shared trauma. So, maybe you're right; in Mari's absence, he kinda does fill that role as the glue, keeping everyone from falling apart. What's more, up until he gave it away, he's been the one with the photo album, and it's the photo album that brings the friends back together, reminding them of all the good times they had, in the past. It's that same album and those same memories that are giving Sunny the strength he needs, now, to confront all the things that he's been avoiding, all the pain and suffering that he's buried deep inside himself.
Anyway, that said, the finale's up next and I'm as excited as I always am! I think you'll really enjoy it.
Honestly wish I could clip that speech on grief. Beautifully said and at the perfect moment in the game too.
Hi you probs know this already, but you can clip YT videos now! Also you could screen record using your phone settings :)
Fun fact: Basil actually stabbed the eye that Sunny saw when he looked back at Mari's corpse.
No he didn’t
Yeah, it's the opposite eye. Basically, Basil wound up making Sunny, Mari's oppposite -- her right (our left) eye was open and staring at them, and after Basil stabbed Sunny, his left (our right) eye was the eye that was left. Never really thought about it, but that is kinda interesting. It's also the same eye that Space Boyfriend wears a patch over.
i can also see it as basil trying to attack the “something behind him” but missing since garden shears aren’t very precise
Just wanted to say, i JUST came out as trans (not even 30 minutes ago) and i was accepted, im watching this to calm myself down a little so i dont give myself a heart attack 😅 this series has made me so happy, tysm
(family is arguing a little though)
Nice job coming out! I hope everything turns out fine
hey congratulations!
@Bror everything was okay in the end though
except Sunny's right eye
Congratulations!!!
You're watching THIS to calm done?
I mean, memory lane maybe, but the truth sequnce is in here too
I have to say, even though the theme of the game is how traumatized Sunny is and how it affected him, and you clearly understand how important it is to see people behind actions, I still thank you for not treating him like he did something terrible and so that defines him forever. If you go to wiki and read the descriptions of the Truth photos (whish exists btw, it's just not shown in the game) you'll find that this is what Sunny is and was afraid of the most. That everyone will hate him and turn on him for the truth. Also, in those descriptions it says that Sunny's dissociating very hard, he thinks it's all a dream until the last photos, when he looks back at Mari. He doesn't even fully understand what Basil's suggesting or what they're doing, but he wants things to be okay and that's where Basil and his "everything is going to be okay" comes in. Not to blame Basil, because he literally accidentally saw That and wanted to (probably automatically) help make it "okay" and has a hard time admitting that what happened was done by his best friend ("something behind you" stuff).
What i'm saying is, thank you for constantly sayng how sad everything is and treating them like they should be treated, deeply traumatized people who think one horrible thing from the past will define them forever, and really need help
(Spoilers? Not sure if I should be tagging this but just in case)
15:09 "I hope there was no accidental pushing involved"
*ahaha well about that-*
I have been waiting for this moment for forever!! The twist is so freaking well done that if you didn't hunt for clues you would never see it coming, but if you did, it's still not enough to know for sure. That's how you make a plot twist.
LETSS GOOOOO IT FINALLY HAPPENED, ONLY ONE MORE EPISODE TILL THE ENDING. I loved this series and loved every one of your reactions.
Thank you for playing this game. I have been waiting a long time for this.
YOURE SO CLOSE TO FINISHING IT IM SO HYPED
Also I don't know if you know this but there are 5 different main menus I believe. The one from the very beginning, one for black space, one for 1 day left, and 2 at the end depending on your choices
since you mentioned the eye
its implied that when he looked back he saw her open eye, thats what the last picture (you blured out) in the montage was implying.
At long last... The truth. Very excited to see how she reacts
The “truth” we’ve all been waiting for!
It seems that "everything is goin to be okay" is what basil uses to cope in high stress situations, but from basil using that on the day of the recital, its his trigger
What makes it sad Sunny didn’t mean to push her down the stairs he was so stressed that his emotions blinded him that he didn’t even noticed where Mari was and just wanted her to back off it was only until she hit the broken violin that he realized what happened and went to go get her
He was in denial about how severely hurt she was that he hoped she was just unconscious so he brought her to bed
But she never woke up which made him guilt ridden and self hatred
Basil who had witnessed the whole thing tried to snap Sunny out of it and tried to help him but his mind was too fuzzy to think logically as Basil and Sunny were just kids
i like how Hero is all like..best at everything and mature and responsible but with Mari... he is "weak" sorta speak? like she easily makes him blush ect. she have this access through his mature and confident facade) i mean..its usual thing when you like someone soo much)
I’ve been waiting for this :’)
The end is nigh! We’ll cheer you on from here, so play the music, SUNNY! (On another note, I think it’s cool how fast you figured out the pictures. Basil was just trying to protect Sunny, and the general head cannon is that the black and white “ghost Mari” that went through the big window in the dream world is trying to help Sunny move on.) May the piano chime in your tune, and have a good day!
**You feel like your life is in danger**
basil is holding garden shears so thats how he severed sunnys eye
27:21
I've always found this part interesting
Other times it asks/implies this question, you have to save Basil from other people or things
But this time you have to save Basil from himself
(Neutral Ending Spoilers)
If you don't save Basil here, he kills himself
Since the somethings are hallucinations, you really are just saving Basil from suicide
Sunny is basically emaciated and unarmed
Basil is significantly healthier than him and is armed with garden shears
And yet they both end up hospitalized
Sunny sure can throw down if need be
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE... TURN IT UP
18:32 "cause the tree is still somehow involved in all of this..." *and at that moment the realization kicked in*
Aubrey’s dad didn’t stop caring; he left. It’s part of why Aubrey was having such a rough time when Mari died, and her mom either was alcoholic or became so at that time.
*I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS*
I personally subscribe to the "she died from the fall" theory because it hurts less. The best explanation I've seen for why her eyes are open assuming that is because rigor mortis had set in, causing the yes to open.
Idk why but you have really cool aunt/mum vibes and I love it
Yeah that whole basil fight thing was real, Sunny and Basil were just hallucinating manifestations of their trauma.
(spoiler)
prior to the fight, it's clear that Basil whas always in denial.
he believes that Sunny, His best friend, is a good person, so he couldn't have done these terrible things (pushing mary, scribing his photos ...) so in his mind, what actually did it whas "something" that he doesn't know what it is.
because of this denial that he had the idea of ... you know what '-' ... so Sunny wouldn't have to take the blame, because: "he is a good person and wouldn't do this, so it's not his fault".
he probably sees the "something" that haunt Sunny because he also saw dead Mary with a open eye that whasn't covered by her hair and, because of both trauma and denial, assossiated this as the culprit of everything that happened that day.
The dark thing behind Sunny is Mari, because when they hang her in the three her face was covered by her hair and you could see only her eye, that last image of Mari was impressed in Sunny's mind, that dark thing represents Mari and the fear Sunny has of remembering what happened that day.
This exact part is where almost every Omori fan breaks internally
Implying that previous moments in-game haven't already wrecked our hearts. Because they sure wrecked mine! Ha.. ha..
Really, though, once I realized what "the truth" actually was, I had to stop playing for a moment. I was so damn shocked.
I think a lot about the way you contextualize Mari "talking" to Sunny here, as him imagining the words that he wishes he could hear from her, rather than it being her actual words. It's something I've found myself in the habit of doing when grappling with a loss that I haven't fully processed yet. Like you said, it's sad that we crave that closure we can never have, but crave it nonetheless.
39:41 Basil is attacking "something" which, earlier, you've said he used in place of Sunny. I think that explains the mix up
"...The Truth might be hard for you to accept, yet even if it does hurt you, I will be here for you, a place for you to tell your story, and lighten your burden. I will remain here, ready for everything you're about to tell, ready to be happy again, ready to be..."
-A Fragment of Forgotten Hope.
Basil is actively attacking sunny with gardening shears during the fight.
Sunny actively filters out the perception of the attacks due to sheer trauma.
@AUBREY I don't think Sunny can do much harm without that steak knife. 4 years of nothing but sleep and I assume minimal time to eat or move about should have him frail himself as well. You can see this in the fights prior. Nobody actually targets Sunny until Kel is out of the count, and when they do he's out of the picture even faster than Kel making a slam dunk while Aubrey is under the basketball hoop.
I don't think he is. Basil only physically attacks Sunny back at the very end of the fight after Sunny has beaten him, by stabbing him in the eye with his shears. The earlier portions of the fight are literally just Basil trying to talk to him, 'reaching inside of him', trying to pull out the trauma. Sunny is probably trying to push him away both physically and mentally for most of it, and when he transitions into the stressed out phase, he is actively physically attacking Basil, which is why he's asking him to stop.
@AUBREY Yeah I'm fairly certain Basil is pretty much just grazing him at this point, because he's not actively aiming at Sunny, but Sunny is too stressed out to realize it and fights back to defend himself. It's why the one time Basil does aim for him, it's critical and Sunny's out.
I'm pretty sure the only part when Basil actually used the shears was when he took out Sunny's eye.
I just found out about your channel and this series a couple days ago and I've been super hyped for this to come out!!! THE TRUTH!!!!
edit: it's big emotional hours and we're not even done
I could relate with Sunny and Mari's dynamic. I grew up in an alcoholic household. My mom is disabled, so my sister (who was 11 years older than me) was practically my parental figure. She went to my PTA meetings, all my school stuff.... I see a lot of my loving sister in Mari. I looks like Mari took up the role her parents were neglecting. He didn't just lose his sister, he lost his mother figure, too.
Oof, got scared of the sirens in the beginning.
*"Did the fall only injure her" OOF, awful D:
"luckily" not the case, Mari wasn't breathing for a while
18:10 - yes, these photos do have descriptions, they are in the game code, but they are not shown in the game. If you search up the truth section in omori wiki, these descriptions are written there.
The card game seems to be blackjack.
Sunny's hand was an ace and an ace.
Aces can stand for either 1, or 11, so Sunny would have a hand of 2, 12, or 22, not very useful for reaching 21!
It's interesting that Hero and Basil wound up tying the game. Basil had a Jack and an Ace which comes out to 21, and Hero had... what was it, 2 face cards (I forget which) and an ace which is also 21. This is incredibly rare in blackjack to have 2 people hit blackjack on the same round.
Maybe this is variant rules or something but in all times I have played blackjack a pair of Aces had to always have a value of 12, with the logic being that one Ace had to be a 1 and the other had to be an 11. In most blackjack games and tables, a hand of ace treated as 1 and then any combination of cards that equals 19, and then drawing another Ace would bust you.
Also presuming this game doesn't have a "house" they're playing against, Basil would be the winner, cause he reached 21 with the fewest cards, even though Hero also scored 21!
Either way the symbolism is cool - two lone cards surrounding by empty space right next to each other - Sunny and Omori OR Basil and Sunny/Omori.
This series has been a pleasure to watch, (I 100%ed the game myself!) and it's incredible in both an alarming and writing sense how much I could see myself relating to at least some of these characters, reminds me of some things that I have unresolved in my life that I've got the means to fix now!
14:35
that's the moment ...
I think the road is literally the road to the concert hall the recital was supposed to be at.
Sunny might have been there before, so he remembers the way.
Never thought about that, but it makes a lot of sense!
It's actually Memory Lane, because if you save at either of the two Picnic Baskets, the Location literally says "Memory Lane". That's why, when I was watching I was like "SAVE SAVE SAVE!" wanting her to save and see that.
“There’s no way out of this, is there?”
That line always gets me, especially bc I can relate (I struggle with anxiety and an eating disorder). When you’re dealing with trauma or a mental issue, especially as a child, it truly feels like there’s no way out. I just want to hug Sunny and Basil :(
Well, guess I can finally say it now.
*AYO THE PIZZA HERE*
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Time traveler
AYO THE PIZZA HERE!!!
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I wish I could hug Sunny and Basil. 😭 The poor boys.
undoubtedly, youve become like, my 2nd favorite youtuber of all time. youre such a cool lady and your content is SO funny n awesome, not to mention youre currently doing a game that had changed my life. your content is so sick and i cant wait to see whats next!
This means we can finally do the pizza jokes?
STOP
@@mosslover1 ayo-
AYO THE PIZZA HERE
1:04:42 this was when i started crying when i played this myself, and i cried all the way through reliving those memories
I just want to say, in the moment you found out what really happened. I really appreciated that your first instinct more than shock at the realisation, was sympathy for the people carrying that burden. The moment of quiet sympathy really stuck with me when I think about this game.