I have found a much better option than using the built-in analog timer on this unit. Set it so the pump is on all the time, but control the pump through a Lutron Casetta outdoor plug. This unit was designed and intended for outdoor lighting like Christmas lights, but it will also control, small appliances and small motors, and this qualifies. We are heavily invested in Lutron lighting switches throughout our house for a variety of applications. This allows total control through an app. It takes into account daylight savings time changes. And if I want to go out of town for one or more days, I can turn the pump completely off. Likewise, if I needed to run the pump at an off schedule time, I can simply open up the app and turn the pump on as desired. Total scheduling is available through the Lutron app. And as I said, it adjust for daylight savings time. This completely eliminates the need for an analog timer that you have to go reset if there’s a power outage.
Brilliant! I was completely mystified by this thing and have been putting off trying to set it correctly for MONTHS!! This video is so clear!! I finally understand! Now Ima go try it.
I found this video last year and I had just had the circulation pump installed for winter (to avoid freezing pipes in the basement - Colorado). I set the timer from 10 PM to 7 AM for the winter and despite some very cold, freezing and below freezing temps, it worked great. No issues. (We were out of the country for the whole winter.) For this year I just reset it from 11 PM to 6 AM - just to save a little bit on energy costs - as I am not sure how much extra energy it uses. Thanks for doing this (yes, it was 6 years ago - but it has been excellent help to me).
Thank you for your clear and understandable directions on setting this timer. We often have power outages and since my separation I've not been able to change the timer on my hot water heater until now!!
Thanks for the clear explanation. Watts' "manual" does not even make clear which 'thing' is the minute hand by which to set the current time. Good job!
Due to space restrictions, my timer was set high up and to the rear of my water heater, so I can't see the dial easily, even with a flashlight. You video helped so much - thank you!
Dude this is freaking awesome! I work from home now to permanently so I think I’m going to set it up exactly as you had it! Thanks for saving me a headache
FYI, my livable space is less than 1,000 sq ft, and setting the pins to activate the pump for 30 minutes every 2 hours has provided plenty of hot water here. Leaving the pump on all day - must be a huge house with a lot of residents?
i have a question- I have set timer to correct time and using pins for 'on ' times what do i put timer on? On? or Timer? I dont understand the difference between the 2? I am using the pins for the timer so should it be set to timer? I only want it heating in morning's and evenings for shower times
To set the clock....I think you can keep the clear dial on and simply grab the dial and rotate. No need to remove the clear cover and dink with the clock hands.
Get Kasa WiFi plug for $9. Set smart timers like 30 minutes before sunrise to 30 minutes after sunset Or just multiple timers. Take it a step further for wintered with IFTT when temp drops. I have a google speaker in bath and can request on demand hot water
Yes, i just put this pump in and when it runs the cold water temperature is significantly higher. It was so warm that I turned it off, but I’ll turn it back on when winter comes
Great video! I have one question: When the pump's timer is on, does the pump run all the time or only when the sensor at the sink "tells" it to? Thanks.
The pump runs, but if the bypass valve (the black plastic unit under your sink) thinks the water is warm enough it will block additional flow of hot water from returning in your cold water line. The pump may try to move more hot water, but the valve will restrict it until the line is cool enough to cause the bypass valve under your sink to open up again and let hot water flow.
I am thinking about installing one of these. But I have a question hopefully someone can answer. I have 2 water heaters side by side that I can run solo, in parallel or in series. Where could I mount the pump in order for the pump to work? I am thinking it could go in the main hot water line near the heaters. Thanks for any input.
I’m just confused with this device. Can anyone help. Do you set it to be on each and every time you think you will be needing hot water. So in other words most people in my household will be showering between 7 and 9 am. So do I need to have it on during that whole 2 hour block or can I turn it on for an hour at 7-8 and expect it to be hot still at 9am? Secondly during the evening we will be expecting hot water so do I have it running between 4pm to 9pm or do I turn it on for an hour and it then still delivers hot water for the remaining time. Also using the example shown in this video if he is running that the whole day doesn’t that mean his gas bill will be a fortune since he’s constantly heating up the water to keep it warm?
The pump runs, but if the bypass valve (the black plastic unit under your sink) thinks the water is warm enough it will block additional flow of hot water from returning in your cold water line. The pump may try to move more hot water, but the valve will restrict it until the line is cool enough to cause the bypass valve under your sink to open up again and let hot water flow.
I wish the timer was in 3-4 minute intervals instead of 15 minute intervals. I don't need hot water flowing back into my cold-water side. Does anyone know of a time like that?
so here is the deal: i just have one LINE of water at home and one solar water heater that i´ve set for hot water at the roof, I use one thermostatic valve to mix the hot and cold water so I dont need to use special pipes for hot water in the entire house, the temp is 38C or 100F all the time but always I have to open and wait untill all the could water from the pipe gets out to use the hot water that comes from the thermostatic valve, I was wondering If I can use one hot water recirculation pump to take the cold water from the line and dont wast this water everytime that I want to use hot water, but the problem is, what to do with the cold water from the pipe since I only have one line?
"ON"...does not allow "Always on" operation.....UNTIL all the timing-pins around the dial are ALSO in the "on" ( toward outside) direction....a small detail often not mentioned.
Have you noticed an increase in gas or electricity usage? I'm thinking about ruining mine most of the day like you. But I have a gas water heater. I'm afraid it may use a lot of electricity and gas.
Your water heater heating the cold water around the clock is going to use a lot more power than a little tiny pump. I live in Phoenix so I shit the power off on my water heater all summer long. Inside my garage where the water heater is located is always around 105 degrees so I still have warm enough water for showers. But in the winter it seems like I'm always wasting my hands with cold water and the shower has to run for 3 or 4 minutes before it starts to get warm. I will be installing a pump ASAP.
Read my Instruction booklet then watched your video and STILL I'm dumbfounded ad yo how to set the time so the unit can dispense the jot water at the correct times. For " bone- heads" like me, your video doesn't clearly explain that step. Help?????
AFTER watching your video several times, it finally clicked. What was confusing was the clock hands. It would've been helpful if in your video, you explained the clock hands are not for reflecting the time, the time is those teeny tiny numbers. Just my bone-head-two-cents.
Only a few dollars a month for the pump but because you have hot water instantly all day you use a lot more energy to make hot water. (gas?) Set the timer on less and you can save more heat cost.
Get the Smart Plug WiFi Outlet plug circulate pump in , set the pump on 24 hours. Use your smart phone turn on and off, I turn hot water on 2 minutes auto off after 2 minutes and i get in shower hot water waiting for me.
Smart move. I plan on doing the same thing. Set the pump to “Always On” and then use the Smart Plug WiFi Outlet app to circulate the water before I get in the shower, then use the app to turn it back off. Simple. Efficient.
@@gilguzman8359 even better: put a motion sensor on your home automation and tell the automation to turn it on automatically. Nobody there, then no need to run pump.
I have found a much better option than using the built-in analog timer on this unit. Set it so the pump is on all the time, but control the pump through a Lutron Casetta outdoor plug. This unit was designed and intended for outdoor lighting like Christmas lights, but it will also control, small appliances and small motors, and this qualifies. We are heavily invested in Lutron lighting switches throughout our house for a variety of applications. This allows total control through an app. It takes into account daylight savings time changes. And if I want to go out of town for one or more days, I can turn the pump completely off. Likewise, if I needed to run the pump at an off schedule time, I can simply open up the app and turn the pump on as desired. Total scheduling is available through the Lutron app. And as I said, it adjust for daylight savings time. This completely eliminates the need for an analog timer that you have to go reset if there’s a power outage.
Brilliant! I was completely mystified by this thing and have been putting off trying to set it correctly for MONTHS!! This video is so clear!! I finally understand! Now Ima go try it.
I found this video last year and I had just had the circulation pump installed for winter (to avoid freezing pipes in the basement - Colorado). I set the timer from 10 PM to 7 AM for the winter and despite some very cold, freezing and below freezing temps, it worked great. No issues. (We were out of the country for the whole winter.) For this year I just reset it from 11 PM to 6 AM - just to save a little bit on energy costs - as I am not sure how much extra energy it uses. Thanks for doing this (yes, it was 6 years ago - but it has been excellent help to me).
Thank you for your clear and understandable directions on setting this timer. We often have power outages and since my separation I've not been able to change the timer on my hot water heater until now!!
Thanks for the clear explanation. Watts' "manual" does not even make clear which 'thing' is the minute hand by which to set the current time. Good job!
Dude you're the reason I was able to install my new 500800 so thank you!! I also have a gas water heater so my setup is similar to yours.
Due to space restrictions, my timer was set high up and to the rear of my water heater, so I can't see the dial easily, even with a flashlight. You video helped so much - thank you!
Dude this is freaking awesome! I work from home now to permanently so I think I’m going to set it up exactly as you had it! Thanks for saving me a headache
FINALLY someone explaining HOW TO SET THE TIMER On this pump thank you sir !!!!!!
I plan on buying this pump, the pump still meets your expectations? thx for the video about the timer.
Does your pump make any sort of noise when it’s on compared to off?
FYI, my livable space is less than 1,000 sq ft, and setting the pins to activate the pump for 30 minutes every 2 hours has provided plenty of hot water here. Leaving the pump on all day - must be a huge house with a lot of residents?
thank you so much. now it all makes sense, I wish they made digital ones,
i have a question- I have set timer to correct time and using pins for 'on ' times what do i put timer on? On? or Timer? I dont understand the difference between the 2? I am using the pins for the timer so should it be set to timer? I only want it heating in morning's and evenings for shower times
To set the clock....I think you can keep the clear dial on and simply grab the dial and rotate. No need to remove the clear cover and dink with the clock hands.
The manual weirdly says to the use the small hands not the large dial
Get Kasa WiFi plug for $9. Set smart timers like 30 minutes before sunrise to 30 minutes after sunset Or just multiple timers. Take it a step further for wintered with IFTT when temp drops.
I have a google speaker in bath and can request on demand hot water
Great video. Does this cause any issues with the cold water line? Any pressure issues, etc.?
Yes, i just put this pump in and when it runs the cold water temperature is significantly higher. It was so warm that I turned it off, but I’ll turn it back on when winter comes
Thanks for explaining this. Very helpful
Thanks for the straight forward instructions.
Great video! I have one question: When the pump's timer is on, does the pump run all the time or only when the sensor at the sink "tells" it to? Thanks.
The pump runs, but if the bypass valve (the black plastic unit under your sink) thinks the water is warm enough it will block additional flow of hot water from returning in your cold water line. The pump may try to move more hot water, but the valve will restrict it until the line is cool enough to cause the bypass valve under your sink to open up again and let hot water flow.
I am thinking about installing one of these. But I have a question hopefully someone can answer. I have 2 water heaters side by side that I can run solo, in parallel or in series. Where could I mount the pump in order for the pump to work? I am thinking it could go in the main hot water line near the heaters. Thanks for any input.
This is what I was looking for.
I’m just confused with this device. Can anyone help. Do you set it to be on each and every time you think you will be needing hot water. So in other words most people in my household will be showering between 7 and 9 am. So do I need to have it on during that whole 2 hour block or can I turn it on for an hour at 7-8 and expect it to be hot still at 9am? Secondly during the evening we will be expecting hot water so do I have it running between 4pm to 9pm or do I turn it on for an hour and it then still delivers hot water for the remaining time. Also using the example shown in this video if he is running that the whole day doesn’t that mean his gas bill will be a fortune since he’s constantly heating up the water to keep it warm?
The pump runs, but if the bypass valve (the black plastic unit under your sink) thinks the water is warm enough it will block additional flow of hot water from returning in your cold water line. The pump may try to move more hot water, but the valve will restrict it until the line is cool enough to cause the bypass valve under your sink to open up again and let hot water flow.
Very helpful, thank you!
I wish the timer was in 3-4 minute intervals instead of 15 minute intervals. I don't need hot water flowing back into my cold-water side. Does anyone know of a time like that?
Some how mine is not working after 10 years ., how can I check if the pump is burnt?
so here is the deal:
i just have one LINE of water at home and one solar water heater that i´ve set for hot water at the roof, I use one thermostatic valve to mix the hot and cold water so I dont need to use special pipes for hot water in the entire house, the temp is 38C or 100F all the time but always I have to open and wait untill all the could water from the pipe gets out to use the hot water that comes from the thermostatic valve, I was wondering If I can use one hot water recirculation pump to take the cold water from the line and dont wast this water everytime that I want to use hot water, but the problem is, what to do with the cold water from the pipe since I only have one line?
"ON"...does not allow "Always on" operation.....UNTIL all the timing-pins around the dial are ALSO in the "on" ( toward outside) direction....a small detail often not mentioned.
Very clear!
Have you noticed an increase in gas or electricity usage? I'm thinking about ruining mine most of the day like you. But I have a gas water heater. I'm afraid it may use a lot of electricity and gas.
Your water heater heating the cold water around the clock is going to use a lot more power than a little tiny pump. I live in Phoenix so I shit the power off on my water heater all summer long. Inside my garage where the water heater is located is always around 105 degrees so I still have warm enough water for showers. But in the winter it seems like I'm always wasting my hands with cold water and the shower has to run for 3 or 4 minutes before it starts to get warm. I will be installing a pump ASAP.
Read my Instruction booklet then watched your video and STILL I'm dumbfounded ad yo how to set the time so the unit can dispense the jot water at the correct times. For " bone- heads" like me, your video doesn't clearly explain that step. Help?????
Porrfavor ..ajustes de esta valvula de recirculacion
How much current does the pump draw when running?
.5 amps
Phew! Helpful, thank you!
How to set timer on a taco water circulation pump
AFTER watching your video several times, it finally clicked. What was confusing was the clock hands. It would've been helpful if in your video, you explained the clock hands are not for reflecting the time, the time is those teeny tiny numbers. Just my bone-head-two-cents.
does this waste a lot of electricity
Only a few dollars a month for the pump but because you have hot water instantly all day you use a lot more energy to make hot water. (gas?) Set the timer on less and you can save more heat cost.
Thanks!
I had no idea this unit had a timer until I had a handyman tell me, and turn it around, so I could see it, which the guy did not do that installed it.
Awesome
Get the Smart Plug WiFi Outlet plug circulate pump in , set the pump on 24 hours. Use your smart phone turn on and off, I turn hot water on 2 minutes auto off after 2 minutes and i get in shower hot water waiting for me.
Smart move. I plan on doing the same thing. Set the pump to “Always On” and then use the Smart Plug WiFi Outlet app to circulate the water before I get in the shower, then use the app to turn it back off. Simple. Efficient.
@@gilguzman8359 even better: put a motion sensor on your home automation and tell the automation to turn it on automatically. Nobody there, then no need to run pump.
volume?
If you're asking if this pump makes noise, no, it is very quiet.
Haha,,had it backwards...thanks!!
Yes your explanation was con fusing.