for a better usage of downforce, you should put it directly to the wheels not throuh the suspension cuz if you do it through the suspension u loose some downforce and room to spare for the car to suspent on and not hit the ground, sorry for my english im an german student that is able to understand english well but cant write it well
@@wuzi340 No it isn't lol, hub-mounted downforce has been illegal since the 1960s. It's why they have to run the cars so stiff - they want to lose as little force as possible through the suspension.
@@anteshell Real living things are a WHOLE lot more complex than anything you could make in a game. Yet despite that they have to be made by random chance because there could not possibly be some sort of ultimate moral creator with the authority to say that what people do is wrong. Even people like Richard Dawkins are starting to move more towards saying things like "Well it must have been aliens" even though that is probably a worse argument than just saying "Well it just happened by pure chance" because then the only answer they have for where those aliens come from is more aliens.
@@maxbennett5412 Not sure what to think of your response. First you appear to completely misunderstand my comment, because the complexity of evolution or organisms is entirely irrelevant to what I said. Then you continue by seemingly misunderstanding me to be defending creationism because you strongly hint that you believe in random chance over an intelligent creator. On top of that you spew some dis-information about Dawkins believing in aliens and conflating him to be some kind of authority on how the life started. That is how your comment appears to me and it doesn't make any sense. I really don't know how should I respond, other than pointing out your misunderstanding that evolution would have anything to do with how exactly the life started. Because it doesn't.
@@anteshellIn a context comparing it to evolutionary biology yes, but the word colloquially also refers to the general gradual advancement of something. You could say our technology has evolved over the years despite it all being intelligent design.
@@MIIRBH it matters because he could see the top 10 specifically and thus know exactly what time he needed to achieve to be top 1% (since it was in the top 5)
Ok, i have sene a problem for quite some time now and that was introduced in the airborne expansion. Wings and spoilers can not be covered on the top or bottom side does not work anymore, it is more realistic but very few people have noticed. I am just trying to get the word out there.
More steering input doest perse equate more steering. Just more slip. Reduce the angle when your just sliding on the front axle. Also, to reduce understeer move some weight to the front. And leave the weight blocks out, just rearange the layout.
It would be cool to see a go-kart build, using the seat of course, that behaves (functionally and maybe even visually) like the go-karts in Mario Kart.
To me, it kind of feels that propellers WANT to go first. If I put any on the rear of my vehicle it tends to spin out very easily. With 6 power cores I feel it is more useful to have 2 small propellers at front and one at rear to solve the spinning issue.
That's to be expected with propulsion, it's one of the reasons why rear-wheel drive cars in the real world are generally more prone to spinning out than ones with front-wheel drive A simple way to think about it is if you lay a stick on the ground and try to push it from the rear end with your finger, you can probably keep it moving in a fairly straight line, but the friction from the front will always be fighting against you and trying to turn the stick to one side or the other. Conversely, if you drag the stick from the front end, it'll always follow the correct path because the friction is now behind the driving force This is partly why weight distribution and aerodynamics are so important, they help keep a moving vehicle stable rather than letting it spin around any which way
@@Loop_Kat Valid points, but in Trailmakers propellers try rotate them on front of the movement direction even NOT accelerating. Just putting propeller on rear want's to spin your vehicle even if it would be not assigned to any buttons.
@@IrnFox Helicopter engines apply rotational energy in Trailmakers, but propellers do not. The only reason an unpowered, rear-mounted propeller can cause a vehicle to spin out is because the small propeller weighs 12.5kg and the large propeller weighs 25kg, so all that extra weight gets thrown around really easily during a turn. To prove this, I just ran a test with an unpowered propeller on the back of a race car and the exact same spin out behavior happens when it's replaced with a 30kg weight, so it's a weight distribution issue, not a propeller issue
I just figured out the trick with the bank, no matter what kind of propulsion you've got, you need to coast on to the bank and then ease on accelleration after you've started the turn. Massive downforce doesn't really help because the start of the bank is fairly abrupt so if you're pressed too hard into the ground something will crash into the ground and send you flying into oblivion. If you enter the bank while accelerating the front wheels will have heavy loading and grip at first causing oversteer and then as you try to correct the springs will decomress leaving you with almost no front grip continuing the spin uncontrollably. By releasing the acceleration just before entering the ramp you reduce the load on the tires reducing the oversteer and once you have a controlled turn you can start to acellerate again to maintain the downforce. Alternatively you could aim your car parallell and close to the outer wall and try to avoid turning at all while entering the ramp, and grind against the wall to turn. But you still need to let off the throttle a bit otherwise you'll probably crash into the terrain where the ramp starts. I just managed to finish the race with a conventional muscle league car, bionic propeller car and for the first time I managed to get a one power core UFO engine to be, not exactly easy to control but controllable enough to be able to finish with some luck. And with the UFO engine which have inherent massive downforce I found that the wall grinding strategy was most successful, while the more fragile bionic propeller had to coast through most of the bank. With a really slow conventional powered car you could probably be able to keep some throttle through the whole bank, but with super fast cars it's too bumpy which randomly loads the wheels too much under high speed so you save more time by coasting than trying to fight the inconsistent turning.
Btw, after finally making a somewhat useable UFO engine; I do not consider it cheating at all. Sure the mechanism is glitchy but that just makes it super difficult to control. Bionic propellers (which use somewhat plausible though extreme aerodynamics to work) is way easier to control, and those are not easy to control either.
Scrapman, if you can make only 1 side of thrust turn on when turning round a corner, then your vehicle should have way better turning without the need for gyro turning, also it might have way better consistent turning speed without having to slow down as much. You will have to let go off your standard forward button when going round corners which will be a bit weird at first, but ultimately you should get faster times by far once you get used to the weird keys. Hope this helps :)
IRL for more stability/easier to drive you want #1 Most your "weight in the front" (this make the front push - the rear less likey to slide out). #2 The car to pull you (this make it when the car get squirrelly - just hit the gas and it will pull you straight) "Props in the front make more sense to me". !!! keep in mind this is for more stability/easier to drive not speed !!!
I'm pretty sure the props in the back are "shoving" you forward so when you get your back end out of alignment they push you farther out from where you were wanting to go
2 months late, not only do i think this was happening, but also he had all his weight rearwards so the back end was letting go through loss of grip first. He's sown a serious lack of understanding in the videos i've watched so far of the effects of weight balance on handling.
12:30, You can work it out with a little maths... I think. The percentage gives you your performance relative to the masses, and the position gives you an exact idea of how many people are ahead of you. Combining the two should give you a rough estimate. Better than 89% means he is at roughly 11%. Since he's in 45th place, there are 44 people ahead of him. (This isn't exactly the correct interpretation, but I'm using these values since they work out so nicely.) Divide 44 people between 11 percentage points, and you have 4 per. Each unit of the percentage equates to roughly four people. In other words, getting ahead of about 4 people should move you up by roughly 1%.
I'm just going to point out, that hovercrafts are land vehicles as well. They should be a lot easier to incorporate into the build, possibly even with well hidden suspension. And since you can cover them up with aerodynamics (unlike wheels), they should be overall faster.
@Scrapman, one way to improve your time is by, "cutting corners". By this I mean on sections that have turns, such as the serpentines after the big bank near the finish, after the first turn try to stay as close to the right as possible. Doing this is more efficient because you travel less distance than following the centerline on the road.
I don't know if anyone else can see it, but if you watch the last successful race where ScrapMan goes from 9 to 8, it kind of looks like he driving a red Batmobile without most of the roof.
@@Alexander-qi6od-- Not the hoverpad block, the tilting wheel mechanism. It should allow omnidirectional movement, although rotation will need to be gyros or something.
1:08 What vehicle seat is that? There is a seat I don't recognize in between the regular seat and the armoured seat. What one is this? edit: never mind, its the "VIP Seat"
I am wondering. If you have engines as a separate build and use magnets in-game to combine them then sensors to activate them, does the leaderboard acknowledge their powercores?
It's not just leaderboards, the devs look at the top placements and manually remove placements for vehicles that use glitches. So even if it did, it would be invalidated at some point.
@@Hadeks_Marow But how would they verify it? It's not really a glitch. The pathing would be legit, with the checkpoint order and timing seeming totally normal, just fast. Even by looking at the creation, only the base vehicle would show. Assuming you don't make the magnets readily apparent, and conceal them in what looks like a normal vehicle, I'm not sure anyone could notice.
@@Broroboros It's a manual review. As in the devs (with their human eyes) look at the car and it's blueprint and see if it's using any known glitches/glitch tech. Like the UFO glitch for example. By uploading a time, the devs have access to the vehicle itself (not just it's ghost), which they can break down and inspect part-by-part. This is why it's reserved only for the top placements. They could also check that vehicles top-speed by test-driving it in a straight line on a flat map.
the other day i tried to make a contraption that can pull an anchor pin out the ground and got really close and i think its possible so i would suggest you have a go !
Something I’ve noticed with the spoilers, it seems if it is connected with more then 4 connections on the bottom the downforce doesn’t take effect, you can see that the downforce is in the front despite the spoiler in the back with the build at 8:17, just a observation and could be completely wrong, but i think it’s interesting.
Can you double up the wheels (width wise) and maybe mix them with street and offroad? The unicycle can use gyros and still be able to handle the ramps. It is actually a pretty good design. Most of your thrust is going to be space thruster and you can still have suspension and using the wings like you have for lift control would be perfect.
The vertical stabilizers prevent turning in evolution stage 3. The center of mass and center of down force should be shifted forward. It makes turning easier but you might spin out. Nvm. Forgot what i said. It only applies to the first evolutions. After you added the jet engines i wasn't able to understand how it still stayed on track. Great vid btw
I’d recommend keeping ur vehicle to 2 blocks wide, and maximum height of like 5 blocks as your aerodynamic profile will be slimmer. Also abuse gyro turning with the slim wheels as you can drift faster round corners. Thruster power is also better as things like the large prop or space thrusters have lots of power and a very small hit box
I think the reason you where sliding with the second gen vehicle is because the propellers was making the car go faster but the wheels where going slower
Tip for you Use wheels sides touching ground and use stabilizers with wings and boosters No engines needed The wheels under your mechine sideways wont take fall damage if you put suspention between the wheel and the body
If it helps, The optimal point for your center of mass is just a little behind dead center. I got that from a video made in the 1950s. Dang they still right :D
I’m curious if the car’s front and rear axels can rotate slightly against each other to improve your effective suspension. Watching your cornering (as well as a similar car racing in this area), these 4 wheel designs are failing to keep all 4 wheels nicely glued to the extreme banks. Why not have a more flexible 4 wheeled car. Otherwise it is worthwhile to explore 2 and 3 wheel designs.
I think using downforce on the bank doesn't seem to be a good idea because it turns inwards, which already creates something similar to downforce, by using extra downforce on the bank you put more pressure into the steering which may be what makes it have chunky turning and steer out.
Do you guys think scrapman ever gets dislikes(for real reasons) because who would dislike a video like this for an actual real reason, his videos are just someone having fun in games
Feels more and more that the devs actually need to play their game and add maps and blocks that we actually need and want... Please we need a city map with good tarmac roads, road signs, street lamps etc and updated wedges and attachment points on blocks, MORE WEDGES - BETTER/MORE ATTACHMENT POINTS PLEASEEEE!!!
It funky how the upper places just fly for the most time and touch the ground once in a while to avoid getting kicked out and scrapman just wants to stay full on true to the purpose of the game which is staying on the ground for the most part 🙈
You need to check spoilers I'm pretty sure the don't give downforce mounted on top of blocks ... there needs to be an airgap at the bottom for it to provide downforce
Perhapskis you should do an episode exploring glitches and after, Perhapskis make a video about trying to get on the leaderboard in bionic league with the glitches you explored in the other episode.
lolol "I think the racing wheels will be the best, I don't think we'll be going off-road on this one." Then it _immediately_ goes off-road, stays offroad for fully half of each lap... and he keeps the racing wheels on the second evolution. 😆 Edit: And third evolution... 😑 Edit: Aw, man, he figured it out! I was gonna do a whole bit with the gradually degrading smilies. Ah well. xD Edit: Ooh, no he didn't! He just did the fronts! Oh this should be amusing...
24:19 watching people using glitches and literally flying through car circut grinds my gear, what a scummy tactic... Deattachable blocks, hover pads and perhaps every thrusters should be disabled for the land based circuts.
For next mpm make a spleef map of two intersecting Mobius strips and have the guns alternate on and off(or could have multiple guns with different timing so you don't know where you're gonna be shooting)
Spoilers dont work when there is a block beneath them, you can see by the centre of forces that only your front spoiler was working on your first build
@@Broroboros I don't think they take power cores but I could be mistaken. Also have no idea how they'd act, I've never seen them used as a tail before.
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Add a distance sensor, set it to invert, zero output scale or 0.01 and set it to any thruster or propeller for instant acceleration
He knows already but don’t use it often lol
Maybe he counts it a a glitch so he doesn't use it
@@neutralasswitz3192 its not really a glitch
@@shaymin7240 its not a glitch its using the logic to activate the jet thruster. Its nothing like using a zero drag glitch
I found 0 works too!
for a better usage of downforce, you should put it directly to the wheels not throuh the suspension cuz if you do it through the suspension u loose some downforce and room to spare for the car to suspent on and not hit the ground, sorry for my english im an german student that is able to understand english well but cant write it well
This is also how they did it in F1 to get the best result out of their drag
Your use of English is just fine.🤪
@@wuzi340 No it isn't lol, hub-mounted downforce has been illegal since the 1960s. It's why they have to run the cars so stiff - they want to lose as little force as possible through the suspension.
More evolutions! We need a whole Charles Darwin Playlist 😂
More like creationism playlist. This is much closer to intelligent design pseudo-scientific theory than evolution theory.
True evolution is the multiplayer version where they all use the best fit vehicle and create small variations from it
@@anteshell Real living things are a WHOLE lot more complex than anything you could make in a game. Yet despite that they have to be made by random chance because there could not possibly be some sort of ultimate moral creator with the authority to say that what people do is wrong. Even people like Richard Dawkins are starting to move more towards saying things like "Well it must have been aliens" even though that is probably a worse argument than just saying "Well it just happened by pure chance" because then the only answer they have for where those aliens come from is more aliens.
@@maxbennett5412 Not sure what to think of your response.
First you appear to completely misunderstand my comment, because the complexity of evolution or organisms is entirely irrelevant to what I said. Then you continue by seemingly misunderstanding me to be defending creationism because you strongly hint that you believe in random chance over an intelligent creator. On top of that you spew some dis-information about Dawkins believing in aliens and conflating him to be some kind of authority on how the life started.
That is how your comment appears to me and it doesn't make any sense. I really don't know how should I respond, other than pointing out your misunderstanding that evolution would have anything to do with how exactly the life started. Because it doesn't.
@@anteshellIn a context comparing it to evolutionary biology yes, but the word colloquially also refers to the general gradual advancement of something. You could say our technology has evolved over the years despite it all being intelligent design.
Quick math: 45/11%=~409 challengers, 23/5%=~460 challengers, so top 1% at that time meant top 4 or 5 on the leaderboard
and that means he has to make a monowheel cheese vehicle
it doesn't really matter since be top 20 could all have half a second of difference and number 1 is just way ahead of everyone
@@MIIRBH Yeah, but he aims to be in 1%, not 1st place
@@Szpryngu795 yes, i know
@@MIIRBH it matters because he could see the top 10 specifically and thus know exactly what time he needed to achieve to be top 1% (since it was in the top 5)
24:31 i just notice that guy name "HuTaoBestWaifu" lol
indeed lol
Wait a Genshin reference?!?! 😅
Only someone truly based would be on the leaderboard, checks out
lol when I saw that guy flying in front of scrapman I was cracked 😂
@@Kraxel-North Playing Genshin is based? Is playing League also based?
you soud play kerbal space program, it's on sale right now
i agree
scrapman alr has it I have seen a few videos of him playing it was like 2,3 years ago
@@sandeepm9708 Bring it back o_o
Agreed
Agreed two
Ok, i have sene a problem for quite some time now and that was introduced in the airborne expansion. Wings and spoilers can not be covered on the top or bottom side does not work anymore, it is more realistic but very few people have noticed. I am just trying to get the word out there.
"Wings and spoilers can not be covered on the top or bottom side does not work anymore" I don't understand what you mean by this...
@@johnderat2652 they don't work as well with something directly above or below them (like in rl)
More steering input doest perse equate more steering. Just more slip. Reduce the angle when your just sliding on the front axle.
Also, to reduce understeer move some weight to the front. And leave the weight blocks out, just rearange the layout.
It would be cool to see a go-kart build, using the seat of course, that behaves (functionally and maybe even visually) like the go-karts in Mario Kart.
Yesss him and yuzei need to make go karts! Maybe kan and kosmo too!
20:41 "I'm tempted to try to put this thing in here,"
*pulls out large jet engine*
Me: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
To me, it kind of feels that propellers WANT to go first. If I put any on the rear of my vehicle it tends to spin out very easily. With 6 power cores I feel it is more useful to have 2 small propellers at front and one at rear to solve the spinning issue.
That's to be expected with propulsion, it's one of the reasons why rear-wheel drive cars in the real world are generally more prone to spinning out than ones with front-wheel drive
A simple way to think about it is if you lay a stick on the ground and try to push it from the rear end with your finger, you can probably keep it moving in a fairly straight line, but the friction from the front will always be fighting against you and trying to turn the stick to one side or the other. Conversely, if you drag the stick from the front end, it'll always follow the correct path because the friction is now behind the driving force
This is partly why weight distribution and aerodynamics are so important, they help keep a moving vehicle stable rather than letting it spin around any which way
@@Loop_Kat Valid points, but in Trailmakers propellers try rotate them on front of the movement direction even NOT accelerating. Just putting propeller on rear want's to spin your vehicle even if it would be not assigned to any buttons.
@@IrnFox Helicopter engines apply rotational energy in Trailmakers, but propellers do not. The only reason an unpowered, rear-mounted propeller can cause a vehicle to spin out is because the small propeller weighs 12.5kg and the large propeller weighs 25kg, so all that extra weight gets thrown around really easily during a turn. To prove this, I just ran a test with an unpowered propeller on the back of a race car and the exact same spin out behavior happens when it's replaced with a 30kg weight, so it's a weight distribution issue, not a propeller issue
@@Loop_Kat Huh. I never tried with weight myself.
I just figured out the trick with the bank, no matter what kind of propulsion you've got, you need to coast on to the bank and then ease on accelleration after you've started the turn. Massive downforce doesn't really help because the start of the bank is fairly abrupt so if you're pressed too hard into the ground something will crash into the ground and send you flying into oblivion. If you enter the bank while accelerating the front wheels will have heavy loading and grip at first causing oversteer and then as you try to correct the springs will decomress leaving you with almost no front grip continuing the spin uncontrollably. By releasing the acceleration just before entering the ramp you reduce the load on the tires reducing the oversteer and once you have a controlled turn you can start to acellerate again to maintain the downforce.
Alternatively you could aim your car parallell and close to the outer wall and try to avoid turning at all while entering the ramp, and grind against the wall to turn. But you still need to let off the throttle a bit otherwise you'll probably crash into the terrain where the ramp starts.
I just managed to finish the race with a conventional muscle league car, bionic propeller car and for the first time I managed to get a one power core UFO engine to be, not exactly easy to control but controllable enough to be able to finish with some luck. And with the UFO engine which have inherent massive downforce I found that the wall grinding strategy was most successful, while the more fragile bionic propeller had to coast through most of the bank.
With a really slow conventional powered car you could probably be able to keep some throttle through the whole bank, but with super fast cars it's too bumpy which randomly loads the wheels too much under high speed so you save more time by coasting than trying to fight the inconsistent turning.
Btw, after finally making a somewhat useable UFO engine; I do not consider it cheating at all. Sure the mechanism is glitchy but that just makes it super difficult to control. Bionic propellers (which use somewhat plausible though extreme aerodynamics to work) is way easier to control, and those are not easy to control either.
Scrapman, if you can make only 1 side of thrust turn on when turning round a corner, then your vehicle should have way better turning without the need for gyro turning, also it might have way better consistent turning speed without having to slow down as much. You will have to let go off your standard forward button when going round corners which will be a bit weird at first, but ultimately you should get faster times by far once you get used to the weird keys. Hope this helps :)
IRL for more stability/easier to drive you want
#1 Most your "weight in the front" (this make the front push - the rear less likey to slide out).
#2 The car to pull you (this make it when the car get squirrelly - just hit the gas and it will pull you straight) "Props in the front make more sense to me".
!!! keep in mind this is for more stability/easier to drive not speed !!!
I'm pretty sure the props in the back are "shoving" you forward so when you get your back end out of alignment they push you farther out from where you were wanting to go
2 months late, not only do i think this was happening, but also he had all his weight rearwards so the back end was letting go through loss of grip first. He's sown a serious lack of understanding in the videos i've watched so far of the effects of weight balance on handling.
Your persistence in those clip were amazing and It's appreciated, by all of us
12:30, You can work it out with a little maths... I think.
The percentage gives you your performance relative to the masses, and the position gives you an exact idea of how many people are ahead of you. Combining the two should give you a rough estimate.
Better than 89% means he is at roughly 11%. Since he's in 45th place, there are 44 people ahead of him.
(This isn't exactly the correct interpretation, but I'm using these values since they work out so nicely.)
Divide 44 people between 11 percentage points, and you have 4 per.
Each unit of the percentage equates to roughly four people. In other words, getting ahead of about 4 people should move you up by roughly 1%.
I'm just going to point out, that hovercrafts are land vehicles as well. They should be a lot easier to incorporate into the build, possibly even with well hidden suspension. And since you can cover them up with aerodynamics (unlike wheels), they should be overall faster.
@Scrapman, one way to improve your time is by, "cutting corners". By this I mean on sections that have turns, such as the serpentines after the big bank near the finish, after the first turn try to stay as close to the right as possible. Doing this is more efficient because you travel less distance than following the centerline on the road.
I’ve noticed scrapman tends to overlook suspension settings, but I feel like that could help him a lot
23:04 I missed the Delayed Annihilation!
Just laughing how far people stretch the "land vehicle" thing when they're clearly flying
Fr 😂
I don't know if anyone else can see it, but if you watch the last successful race where ScrapMan goes from 9 to 8, it kind of looks like he driving a red Batmobile without most of the roof.
you should try to do a couple of races in bionic league
Suggestion : Use the Holotile as wheels for a car
its called hoverpad
@@Alexander-qi6od-- Not the hoverpad block, the tilting wheel mechanism. It should allow omnidirectional movement, although rotation will need to be gyros or something.
@@TlalocTemporal _LAG enters the chat_
@@Alexander-qi6odnot at all what he's talking about. Google Holotile
he already did that a few years ago in a video that he mentioned in the newest video abt the holotile
That was pleasure to view how you done that race)
getting close to a million subs. keep going man, you make the most entertaining gaming content on youtube
🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥💯
Love this evolution racing videos!
1:08 What vehicle seat is that? There is a seat I don't recognize in between the regular seat and the armoured seat. What one is this?
edit: never mind, its the "VIP Seat"
I am wondering. If you have engines as a separate build and use magnets in-game to combine them then sensors to activate them, does the leaderboard acknowledge their powercores?
It's not just leaderboards, the devs look at the top placements and manually remove placements for vehicles that use glitches. So even if it did, it would be invalidated at some point.
@@Hadeks_Marow But how would they verify it? It's not really a glitch.
The pathing would be legit, with the checkpoint order and timing seeming totally normal, just fast.
Even by looking at the creation, only the base vehicle would show.
Assuming you don't make the magnets readily apparent, and conceal them in what looks like a normal vehicle, I'm not sure anyone could notice.
@@Broroboros It's a manual review. As in the devs (with their human eyes) look at the car and it's blueprint and see if it's using any known glitches/glitch tech. Like the UFO glitch for example.
By uploading a time, the devs have access to the vehicle itself (not just it's ghost), which they can break down and inspect part-by-part.
This is why it's reserved only for the top placements. They could also check that vehicles top-speed by test-driving it in a straight line on a flat map.
@@Hadeks_Marow-- They should fix the drag-glitch. That would solve half of the problem.
Counting league based on the schematic would fix even more.
@@Hadeks_Marow Interesting to know. Thank you.
19:20 To fix this issue you can remap the control for your upforce to a different button.
Im surprised he didn't revert back to the older car and add to it with what he learned from his newer creation
It would be kind if cool if the game detected you were using a glitch or flying, and put you into a different leader board of people who use glitches
i enjoy this Trailmakers video
the other day i tried to make a contraption that can pull an anchor pin out the ground and got really close and i think its possible so i would suggest you have a go !
Recommendation for your next multiplayer TrailMakers challenge: one overpowered starship versus little starfighters
28:35 The 6th place is reference to Genshin Impact lmao
Something I’ve noticed with the spoilers, it seems if it is connected with more then 4 connections on the bottom the downforce doesn’t take effect, you can see that the downforce is in the front despite the spoiler in the back with the build at 8:17, just a observation and could be completely wrong, but i think it’s interesting.
Is it just me or is his evolution series just do good. I think if he plays some kebal he will get to a point where it's just fun
Can you double up the wheels (width wise) and maybe mix them with street and offroad? The unicycle can use gyros and still be able to handle the ramps. It is actually a pretty good design. Most of your thrust is going to be space thruster and you can still have suspension and using the wings like you have for lift control would be perfect.
The vertical stabilizers prevent turning in evolution stage 3. The center of mass and center of down force should be shifted forward. It makes turning easier but you might spin out.
Nvm. Forgot what i said. It only applies to the first evolutions. After you added the jet engines i wasn't able to understand how it still stayed on track. Great vid btw
I’d recommend keeping ur vehicle to 2 blocks wide, and maximum height of like 5 blocks as your aerodynamic profile will be slimmer. Also abuse gyro turning with the slim wheels as you can drift faster round corners. Thruster power is also better as things like the large prop or space thrusters have lots of power and a very small hit box
Legend has it that it’s actually scrapman shredding when he gets a new track time 😂
I love these so much there so fun to watch😂 btw please do more evolution races.
I think the reason you where sliding with the second gen vehicle is because the propellers was making the car go faster but the wheels where going slower
You and Yzuei should do a dogfight but you use boats that come out of water. The boats would not have any aerial propulsion for a little twist!
Cars are heavy, and not just engines and aerodynamics! Beef that whole thing up!
You know scrapman means business or is gonna make it, when Ethan Meixsell's "Takeoff" starts playing
Tip for you
Use wheels sides touching ground and use stabilizers with wings and boosters
No engines needed
The wheels under your mechine sideways wont take fall damage if you put suspention between the wheel and the body
I have a mechine like that has world rank 1 on three bridges and the map nexto it that i forgot its name 😅
26:59 my favorite song.
Says at the start that he wants more weight up front to assist with turn in.
Immediately puts 2/3 engines and both props on the back. Hahahahaha
Idea: try to beat every ground race with a flying vehicle, its sure to be a good challenge
If it helps, The optimal point for your center of mass is just a little behind dead center. I got that from a video made in the 1950s. Dang they still right :D
not adjusting the stiffness/dampening of the suspension will have an effect on controllability as well
I’m curious if the car’s front and rear axels can rotate slightly against each other to improve your effective suspension. Watching your cornering (as well as a similar car racing in this area), these 4 wheel designs are failing to keep all 4 wheels nicely glued to the extreme banks. Why not have a more flexible 4 wheeled car.
Otherwise it is worthwhile to explore 2 and 3 wheel designs.
I think using downforce on the bank doesn't seem to be a good idea because it turns inwards, which already creates something similar to downforce, by using extra downforce on the bank you put more pressure into the steering which may be what makes it have chunky turning and steer out.
Do you guys think scrapman ever gets dislikes(for real reasons) because who would dislike a video like this for an actual real reason, his videos are just someone having fun in games
Probably on a lot of his boat videos. Some of those are rough to watch if you know even the most basic things about how boats work.
You could possibly improve your racing lines to maintain more speed. I recommend taking tighter apex's and riding the banks higher.
Imagine flying in a driving race
Could it be possible to travel faster if you created a slingshot platform that propels you at start.
Feels more and more that the devs actually need to play their game and add maps and blocks that we actually need and want... Please we need a city map with good tarmac roads, road signs, street lamps etc and updated wedges and attachment points on blocks, MORE WEDGES - BETTER/MORE ATTACHMENT POINTS PLEASEEEE!!!
Every one is literally just flying
Scrap man: we use wheels!
It funky how the upper places just fly for the most time and touch the ground once in a while to avoid getting kicked out and scrapman just wants to stay full on true to the purpose of the game which is staying on the ground for the most part 🙈
These daily videos scrap!!! Can never get enough bro
ScrapMan is the Ironman/Tony Stark of Scrap Mechanic!
Nah he’s spiderman everyone who plays scrap mechanic/watches that content knows him
Scrapman do you have your upload set for a certain time or do you actually get up early and upload the videos?
You need to check spoilers
I'm pretty sure the don't give downforce mounted on top of blocks ... there needs to be an airgap at the bottom for it to provide downforce
You should try and add a toggleable distance sensor to activate your downforce (the idea is to maybe act like active aero on an actual race car
Scrap forget doing the bank. You should make a prop car that you put dingy pieces on so you can skip the bank. No glitches used.
Also with the banked turn you need to smooth out your steering. Honestly it just feels like the physics of trail makers doesn't like the angled turn.
Also scrap why aren't you using space thrusters? You already know how little of those you need to even break the sound barrier.
To dampen a landing decrease the stiffness instead of increase.. this will change the handling of the vehicle tho.
Congrats for getting that high while using the only "Clean" Land Vehicle.
1:49 Does enyone know why Scrapman think the proppeler is better than the actual dragon JET?
For downforce try an upside down wing. Seems better than a spoiler.
finnaly after all this time the old builing/weird moments sound is back! :D
Scrapman totaly ignoring the people in the top 4 flying
You should play some racing games to understand how fast cars work with steering
Perhapskis you should do an episode exploring glitches and after, Perhapskis make a video about trying to get on the leaderboard in bionic league with the glitches you explored in the other episode.
lolol "I think the racing wheels will be the best, I don't think we'll be going off-road on this one." Then it _immediately_ goes off-road, stays offroad for fully half of each lap... and he keeps the racing wheels on the second evolution. 😆
Edit: And third evolution... 😑
Edit: Aw, man, he figured it out! I was gonna do a whole bit with the gradually degrading smilies. Ah well. xD
Edit: Ooh, no he didn't! He just did the fronts! Oh this should be amusing...
That bump entering the cave gave me so much trouble..
These are very entertaining but, could you do it with kan and the others?
You need to use controller for driving, that way you can have smooth turning/finer control rather than sudden 0 to 100% key presses
24:19 watching people using glitches and literally flying through car circut grinds my gear, what a scummy tactic...
Deattachable blocks, hover pads and perhaps every thrusters should be disabled for the land based circuts.
For next mpm make a spleef map of two intersecting Mobius strips and have the guns alternate on and off(or could have multiple guns with different timing so you don't know where you're gonna be shooting)
He should just use a wider wheelbase
A 1% increase is 3 places if you are in the 85th percentile at 45. Also it was out of 300 people when you did it
If u have a hover block with a shield on the bottom u can hover high in the air so maybe u can have a mid air battle with that
you and kan and kosmo should do remote controlled splief
Day 184 of asking scrapman to test how fast emp is in trailmakers
Whenever it comes to the banks, consider staying on the outside of the turn.
Still very satisfying, top 2% is no joke!
When your direct competitors are using flyers with known exploits in a land race and should be DQ'd, you're already in the top 1%
Your videos are a breath of fresh air, always enjoy watching
55 min and only 5k views??? scrap is falling off!! (i love your content)
can you do a three in one vehicle race against the other guys on the new races on this island? like one vehicle that can do a land sea and sky race?
Spoilers dont work when there is a block beneath them, you can see by the centre of forces that only your front spoiler was working on your first build
I'm curious if dragging a limp power coupler on the ground would keep you from being booted from the race as a plane.
Oh man, it would totally work, I'm sure.
As soon as it hits a bump though, I reckon it'd do the... power coupler thing...?
Oh! But they take a power core, don't they?
There's a significant limiting factor there.
@@Broroboros I don't think they take power cores but I could be mistaken. Also have no idea how they'd act, I've never seen them used as a tail before.
Its so wierd to have Trackmania brain activated from Trailmakers content.
5 seconds is a lot 😂
Should’ve done the instant acceleration trick with your thrusters
Try it with 5 power cores max, I think it's more interesting with more limitations!