Why don't we see Hyper Sonic anymore?

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  • @wolf31191
    @wolf31191 ปีที่แล้ว +8736

    TBH it would be great to have this form back. All it takes is good writing.

    • @subsribetosilentsnowmando
      @subsribetosilentsnowmando ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I think it would remove the speciality of super sonic but ok then.

    • @bottomtext593
      @bottomtext593 ปีที่แล้ว +619

      Thats why Frontiers was a huge missed opportunity for Hyper Sonic. They could have easily linked the whole "another dimension" excuse to Cyberspace and brought back the Super Emeralds that way

    • @mvnkycheez
      @mvnkycheez ปีที่แล้ว +202

      actually i think the main reason is probably more to do with the fact that super sonic is _already_ kinda ripping off DBZ enough, but having _another_ power up like hyper sonic risks sonic writing falling into that trap of endless power creep like DBZ and other shounen stuff

    • @Drsachocho
      @Drsachocho ปีที่แล้ว +242

      ​@@mvnkycheez hyper came in 1994 and Ultra instinct came in 2015

    • @Drsachocho
      @Drsachocho ปีที่แล้ว +57

      ​@@mvnkycheez so That's a bit uhh

  • @VongolaXZax
    @VongolaXZax ปีที่แล้ว +6694

    Sonic fans: Excuses, excuses

    • @JoshAndDollyz
      @JoshAndDollyz ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Trueeee

    • @Theanimatedpuffmin
      @Theanimatedpuffmin ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Yes

    • @sigma8917
      @sigma8917 ปีที่แล้ว +281

      yeah...the super emeralds literally cannnot be "locked in another dimention"...they are just boosted chaos emeralds...it would mean that the chaos emeralds are inaccessibile as well which makes no sense

    • @SMG6-
      @SMG6- ปีที่แล้ว +23

      As a sonic fan its not an excuse

    • @psiundertale9193
      @psiundertale9193 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      So true!

  • @Allplussomeminus
    @Allplussomeminus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1925

    That fact we can't have him again (canonically) makes him even more elusive and legendary.

    • @muhammadfaizalfahimi8470
      @muhammadfaizalfahimi8470 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      😶😶😶😶😶😶😦🥵😶

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      It makes him more cooler as well

    • @ReapersLove69
      @ReapersLove69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😐

    • @fiaguo1320
      @fiaguo1320 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yes especially

    • @fiaguo1320
      @fiaguo1320 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😢😢😢

  • @superoof-ck1cb
    @superoof-ck1cb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +632

    “The Super Emeralds reside in another dimension.” Oh Blaaaaaze!

    • @catmom8242
      @catmom8242 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      why is this comment not popular lol

    • @KaiydenDennis
      @KaiydenDennis หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Hilarious😂

    • @RamenBlox
      @RamenBlox หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Bro Izuka/Sonic Team act like they can't just write a story to have Sonic get the Super Emeralds 😭😭

    • @official_nathanyt1490
      @official_nathanyt1490 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They can make a game called sonic dimensions

    • @Leekodot15
      @Leekodot15 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh Saaaaage!

  • @sekunriruisen506
    @sekunriruisen506 ปีที่แล้ว +2488

    "This is my normal form. This is Super Sonic. And this... is to go even further beyond!"

    • @kiryugaming904
      @kiryugaming904 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      *Screams for 5 minutes*

    • @artisthi151
      @artisthi151 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      ​@@kiryugaming904 tails ear drums rip 😢

    • @Jay30Boogie
      @Jay30Boogie ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You beautiful bastard 😂🤣

    • @Pistola
      @Pistola ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @rueme4228
      @rueme4228 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Pistola that’s not nearly long enough…

  • @BKLYN48
    @BKLYN48 ปีที่แล้ว +1439

    I want a game where Super Sonic isn’t enough.

    • @colmecolwag
      @colmecolwag ปีที่แล้ว +120

      How could you ever make Super Sonic seem tough after that? It makes Super Sonic seem like Sonic with the kid gloves on holding back then.

    • @jacknite625
      @jacknite625 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      @@colmecolwag mabey something multiverse threatening. in my opinion that makes sonic frontiers seem so good was that super sonic wasnt a automatic win. as a matter of fact i think it made him weaker revery time he used it. its good to see sonic seem so volnerable for the 1st time in any sonic game. the only bad thing about the game was that super sonic was still there for the final boss instead of hyper sonic or a new form. that game should have had hyper sonic in the game mainly do to the fact that it was basicly made for it. in my eyes atleast

    • @tommyspaghet6877
      @tommyspaghet6877 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Since Super Sonic is mostly positive chaos energy, maybe they can either make a new/existing villain that could actually utilize their smarts and channel the other negative end of chaos energy, effectively canceling each other out and maybe weaken Sonic's Super form over time, or give the Phantom Ruby again to an ACTUALLY capable and threatening villain in the games, which I felt like Infinite had wasted potential since Phantom Ruby is more powerful than the Chaos Emeralds.

    • @derpface1279
      @derpface1279 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@tommyspaghet6877 so you want Nazo to be canon? Because I agree

    • @blannis177
      @blannis177 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@tommyspaghet6877 litteraly Seelkadoom

  • @insanecandycane1283
    @insanecandycane1283 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +139

    It would need to be used VERY sparingly for a very epic final battle (an opportunity already missed in Frontiers). But fans would always be waiting for it and wondering if it's going to appear in every game.

    • @yofolkdem1256
      @yofolkdem1256 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just make way to unlock permanently for new game+.

  • @azeroth2994
    @azeroth2994 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Okay so Super Emeralds are separate entities to Chaos Emeralds. For the longest of times I thought that Super Emeralds were Chaos Emeralds but super charged by the Master Emerald, which made sense to me bc we could get Super only after getting Chaos Emeralds

    • @thekingofsouls3953
      @thekingofsouls3953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You also leave your emeralds on the altar of the master emerald and then activate them

    • @aaamogusthespiderever2566
      @aaamogusthespiderever2566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same

  • @MetalSonic420
    @MetalSonic420 ปีที่แล้ว +1897

    I'd like to see Hyper Sonic again in the future.

  • @Revan384
    @Revan384 ปีที่แล้ว +418

    If they don't want to bring Hyper Sonic back because of the flashing lights, they could depict him in the same way that a lot of fan art does, glowing silver with a rainbow aura.

    • @bigmacsama
      @bigmacsama ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Exactly! Same can be said about creating Hyper Tails and Hyper Knuckles.

    • @davidtamasherman1728
      @davidtamasherman1728 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bigmacsama They're already exist in the Origins version.

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Or just slow down the color rotation. He could pulse a white light between colors and as as the pulse fades the next color fades in, then pulses back to white, and so on. It doesn't need to flicker.

    • @Pakkun247
      @Pakkun247 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zamasu

    • @enderborn6860
      @enderborn6860 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Oh yeah like that white form from Sonic X that inspired Nazo Unleashed

  • @alexanderprimo7239
    @alexanderprimo7239 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    that is the story canon reason, but the actual reason is because they stated that they "dont want too many forms like a certain anime" and we all know which anime is being referred to even though it wasnt mentioned by name.
    Though, its ironic because it seems as though Super Sonic 2 was teased for Sonic Frontiers DLC.

    • @freakingjames1820
      @freakingjames1820 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And they already have a good number of alternative forms in the canon even though they are usually stricted to a single game. Unleashed, Black Knight, Secret Rings, and now Frontiers. If that's their excuse than it seems pretty out of touch with the franchise's continuity.

    • @alexanderprimo7239
      @alexanderprimo7239 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@freakingjames1820 You’re correct, but Sonic 3 & Knuckles came out 30 years ago… Back when the only transformation was Super Sonic lol.

    • @georgeshaw4017
      @georgeshaw4017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Dragon Ball Excuse is still dumb since Super Sonic already makes people think of Super Saiyan. So it’s too late for that.

  • @supertubbie8767
    @supertubbie8767 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've been dreaming of seeing Hyper Sonic again since the moment he appeared. It seems to me that there will be an interesting plot with a threat that even super Sonic is powerless against, which is why Sonic will have to move to a new level.

  • @SocksFC
    @SocksFC ปีที่แล้ว +548

    I swear the Super Emeralds were in Adventure 1 flashbacks. Normally Chaos Emeralds in that game are small, but in the flashbacks the altar contains much larger surrounding Emeralds, similar to size of Super Emeralds

    • @tl1882
      @tl1882 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      they were the size of the sa2 master emerald i think

    • @SonZackSSJ2
      @SonZackSSJ2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@tl1882 I mean the Master Emerald in SA2 was Small XD

    • @sonicadventure3130
      @sonicadventure3130 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I didn’t think they were thy big.

    • @davidtamasherman1728
      @davidtamasherman1728 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I like your idea.

    • @bluphantomexe8279
      @bluphantomexe8279 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@sonicadventure3130 No, if you play a video you can see that they are huge when all seven of them are on the alter.

  • @conmanay4563
    @conmanay4563 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +946

    According to Ian Flynn, writer of the Archie Sonic comics who also wrote the script in frontiers. He pitched the idea that sonic was going to turn into hyper sonic in the final battle against “the end” but it was rejected

    • @Cruddy129
      @Cruddy129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

      Because its allegedly stated that the power scaling is simply too OP even by The Ends standards
      So thats likely why Super Sonic 2 appeared, to match against the end, but not to the point where its an unfair fight

    • @Kerry-yl1sc
      @Kerry-yl1sc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      That's so dumb

    • @brunourielthehedgehog4464
      @brunourielthehedgehog4464 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Yes, and Takashi Iizuka had also said that Hyper was created because of the gameplay factor, because at the time of the Megadrive, there were cartridges, when you put together the cartridges, Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, you would have Sonic 3 & Knuckles, however, for those who already played on the Sonic 3 cartridge and had already collected the emeralds in Sonic 3, they wouldn't have anything to collect from & Knuckles, so they created a second transformation, nowadays, in Sonic Origins, you can do the true ending without the super emeralds

    • @Kerry-yl1sc
      @Kerry-yl1sc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      He also said hyper sonic could return but would need a special circumstance

    • @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre
      @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@Cruddy129then scale it as a being only Hyper can defeat, make it an even greater threat. Writers can do stuff like that. A “balanced fight” against a thing called THE END is kinda dumb. Especially since we’re going Super 2 for some reason, at that point just let him go Hyper.

  • @SpideyandPals
    @SpideyandPals 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Another Reason: Hyper Sonic can cause photosensitive seizures

  • @TheSameGoobyGuy
    @TheSameGoobyGuy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    “Would you like to see hyper sonic again?
    **Sniff** YEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEHEEEEEHEEES! 😭

  • @breazy832
    @breazy832 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    Truly the SSJ4 of this community

    • @zizo3132
      @zizo3132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I think it is the mui of this community due to the similarities but yeah I agree with you

    • @nubby4244
      @nubby4244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      literally nothing is the same with these two

    • @AhmadKazan-wk7ei
      @AhmadKazan-wk7ei 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      ​@@nubby4244As in a fan favorite form with one or very little appearances that was never shown again.

    • @nubby4244
      @nubby4244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AhmadKazan-wk7ei mui appears in the manga games and even a scene in the movies hyper only appears once

    • @Purpleisgreat.
      @Purpleisgreat. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@zizo3132so sonic can dodge things in hyper without thinking about it. I don't think there is a single similarity

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet ปีที่แล้ว +575

    Imagine you invent a thing as just a nice bonus and now everyone keeps asking you about it and finally you're just like, "They're in another dimension!"

    • @davidhughes4917
      @davidhughes4917 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Well that would work for fronteirs cuz cyberspace and all that jazz

    • @user-el7nm2en3c
      @user-el7nm2en3c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And kinda forces ig?

    • @user-fs5bt3rh7m
      @user-fs5bt3rh7m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidhughes4917 yes I want

    • @SunkEntertainmentIncorperated
      @SunkEntertainmentIncorperated 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not forces ***k forces

    • @davidhughes4917
      @davidhughes4917 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-el7nm2en3c no just no

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Blaze the Cat: *uses the Super Emeralds*
    Sonic: _Mind if I borrow these items? Please?_ 🥺

  • @Kryptopunk2007
    @Kryptopunk2007 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Apparently, y'all forgot why Sega removed Hyper Sonic, it was due to epilepsy.

  • @yuselam.s3908
    @yuselam.s3908 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    “Would you like to see hyper sonic again?”
    YES.

  • @devante9207
    @devante9207 ปีที่แล้ว +580

    I think Ian Flynn and the crew could write a good story and introduce hyper sonic in the comics. I could also see him coming back in the games if the frontiers formula and the use of super sonic will be the standard moving forward. However once you cross the “ a threat super sonic can’t beat” line, there’s no going back

    • @Chaosflower
      @Chaosflower ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Well frontiers is getting dlc and a sequel sooooooooo ITS POSSIBLE

    • @projectiony4048
      @projectiony4048 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@Chaosflower It is but it’s very highly unlikely they’re reintroducing hyper sonic lol. The more and more they keep heading in the direction with super sonic being a norm in regular games for regular bosses they probably will it introduce a new form.

    • @c14r4n6
      @c14r4n6 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@Chaosflower The point of the titans in Frontiers is that they use the power of 1 chaos emerald, it would be dumb if Sonic couldn't defeat a Titan with 7 of them

    • @I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames
      @I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Issue is it has the Super Saiyan effect, when you introduce a new form that's insanely more powerful, it becomes hard to make the original form useful again in future stories without lowering the stakes

    • @Chaosflower
      @Chaosflower ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@c14r4n6 oh yeah

  • @notfunny755
    @notfunny755 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sonic 3 AIR:hello there

    • @ForeignEx-xo2sl
      @ForeignEx-xo2sl 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But that's a fan game I think

    • @Milesishere484
      @Milesishere484 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Its a literally a fan remake of the only game the hyper sonic form Appeared in it does not count at all.

  • @Anukinihun
    @Anukinihun 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    All they have to do is that Hyper Sonic is when Sonic uses both the Positive and Negative power of the emeralds. Super Sonic uses only the Positive that's why they keep their color, Negative uses up the color of the emeralds.

  • @MrNeedleM0use
    @MrNeedleM0use ปีที่แล้ว +841

    Its all because of Hyper Sonic causing eyepain to people...

    • @AshVA1
      @AshVA1 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Was that really true? It doesn't even look that flashy

    • @kirgolor
      @kirgolor ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@AshVA1 Like if you use to much the flash attack it can cause epilepsy (If you have it)

    • @Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
      @Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats a lie , seizures are a hoax to control the general population .
      And therefore thats a shitty excuse .

    • @Quickstein
      @Quickstein ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Also Hyper Sonic isn't cycling colors in this video near as fast as he originally did.

    • @mrmemekick
      @mrmemekick ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No it’s because of Goku

  • @Hadaron
    @Hadaron ปีที่แล้ว +264

    My personal excuse I’ve made - the Super Emeralds were a temporary powerup to the Chaos Emerald caused by the Master Emerald. When this powerup faded, they shrank back down, but kept their signature diamond shape that we now see them in. Sonic, too, was permanently changed by the Super Emeralds, keeping a nerfed version of the Crystal Flash as the Homing Attack and having his eyes stained green with Chaos energy.

    • @sitcatz9249
      @sitcatz9249 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      That's an amazing explanation! Makes you think whether the temporary return of the hyper form for Modern Sonic would bring any further changes to his moveset or design.

    • @adrianherbert5844
      @adrianherbert5844 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@Sitcatz Besides an epilepsy lawsuit for SEGA? Maybe it'll make him taller, deeper-voiced and slightly beefier. Sonic is a twig in every game.

    • @SoloSilence
      @SoloSilence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember hearing this exact thing in another TH-cam video

    • @ChopperPlayed
      @ChopperPlayed ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Awesome theory! I remember when Chaos was in the comics and he trapped Sonic inside his water body and sonic had to burst out of Chaos and when he came out he had green eyes. I think they said it was from the “chaos energy” inside Chaos’ water that got into Sonic’s eyes. Well that was at least Archie’s way of writing green eyes onto Sonic. I think I like your idea more!

    • @Zahncel
      @Zahncel ปีที่แล้ว

      Please bring hypersonic back😢😭🥺

  • @YellowtheStickFigure-jc1tb
    @YellowtheStickFigure-jc1tb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sonic Mania hearing that the super emeralds reside in another dimension be like: WHAT THE FU-

  • @theblackcatofchronos
    @theblackcatofchronos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've heard that when they were planning the new END/Supreme boss fight for the dlc in Frontiers there was talk about bringing back Hyper Sonic for the fight but it was shot down and instead we got Super Sonic 2.

  • @sonicblazer820
    @sonicblazer820 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    To me I always believed it was to prevent seizures from people because of the fact he was rapidly changing colors throughout his duration of the form until his ring count reach zero

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Maybe in future games they could change it to be pure white with a slightly rainbowish aura

    • @Cheesekindafirengl
      @Cheesekindafirengl ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They could use the Archie sonic comics colors for it as everyone (almost) has gone hyper in the Archie comics

    • @wingeddragonra3953
      @wingeddragonra3953 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You could just slow down the flashes . Problem solve. Or instead of making him flash, make him white with a white aura

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wingeddragonra3953 white aura is cooler!

    • @anomaly395
      @anomaly395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They can easily change that

  • @YoshiKing8211
    @YoshiKing8211 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    They had a great opportunity to do it in frontiers because he was literally going to different dimensions in the game.

    • @bd4315
      @bd4315 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was only going to a digital dimension in frontiers.

    • @therllynoobguy4548
      @therllynoobguy4548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bd4315 meaning a different dimension…

    • @bd4315
      @bd4315 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@therllynoobguy4548 it’s not a different dimension though, it’s still the normal dimension just a computer program within that dimension. I shouldn’t have said dimension before, I know.

    • @platform4857
      @platform4857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bd4315the reason they wont bring hyper back is because the creators of sonic dont want to have a goku situation where super sonic gets overshadowed by his other forms making the impact of super sonic less good

    • @platform4857
      @platform4857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bd4315and hyper was never canon

  • @zarabsha
    @zarabsha หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "The super emeralds are in another dimension"
    archie sonic: say less

  • @blueblaze7312
    @blueblaze7312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think that the last part is what breaks the whole deal. As you said,
    "They reside in a different dimension"
    I think that if they have dropped that limiter, we would be able to see Sonic go Hyper again.

  • @ryank2780
    @ryank2780 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    If Sonic Team gave the Hyper form good story relevancy and not just for the reasons of "fans want this form back cuz they miss it" then yes, I would want it to come back.

    • @tiffanyB8825
      @tiffanyB8825 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes

    • @Koppu1doragon
      @Koppu1doragon ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, I really don't need a story in fact I kind of miss the days when the Chaos Emeralds weren't in the front of the story. In fact, I thought it a bit, dare I say, cringe when Sonic in Frontiers mentioned, ah yes I might not be able to beat this titan now but just wait until I go Super Sonic.
      Like cool story bro literally anyone with the emeralds is just as strong, you're not special.

    • @RobocopStealerOfFridges
      @RobocopStealerOfFridges ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​​@@Koppu1doragon You don't understand what was going on in Frontiers, do you? In Frontiers, Sonic's the only good character that's outside of Hyperspace. All of his friends that appear in the game are stuck in-between or in Hyperspace for the majority of the game's runtime, so they're physically unable to interact with the real world, so Sonic's literally their last hope. And, even WHEN they come back to the real world, they go back into Hyperspace to help revive Sonic, causing Sonic to be the world's last hope. I respect your opinion, but I just wanted to clarify what was going on in Frontiers to my understanding.

    • @Koppu1doragon
      @Koppu1doragon ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobocopStealerOfFridges I am sorry but what does this have to do with the Chaos Emeralds? Like I know the story of Frontiers that was never in question my issue had nothing to do with the story it was the fact that Sonic, the Sonic was going. "Oh yeah I might not be able to beat you right now but wait until I get these special rocks!"

  • @Hello86257
    @Hello86257 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    Imagine a game where you go to that other dimension and retrieve the super emeralds

    • @HarshanSinghNoori
      @HarshanSinghNoori 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You know? That could be a kinda good concept

    • @Red_Tsar
      @Red_Tsar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sonic Rush show it's possible.

    • @thekingofsouls3953
      @thekingofsouls3953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      As i know super emeralds are chaos emeralds but stronger, because in sonic3&knuckles you lose your emeralds at hidden palace and after that super emeralds appear

    • @ratt__mann9220
      @ratt__mann9220 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Imagine Blaze is just wondering where the hell these giant emeralds came from.

    • @coldkush
      @coldkush 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sonic frontier was a game about you going to another dimension cyberspace

  • @WhatsthatOrangee
    @WhatsthatOrangee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “The Super Emeralds reside in another dimension” Oh, so I guess Frontiers WAS a missed chance.

  • @RedX8477
    @RedX8477 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hyper Sonic is so powerful, he can kill someone with epilepsy. Someone in real life playing the game. Damn, I feel like Hyper Sonic is scarier than Sonic.exe himself

  • @Jorpda
    @Jorpda ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I can’t stop thinking about an old sonic animation where Sonic goes Hyper and every other character has a seizure looking at him

    • @dymaz6282
      @dymaz6282 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sos latino verdad?

    • @zizo3132
      @zizo3132 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dam you remember that animation ?
      Good memories.

    • @zakifarah603
      @zakifarah603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I was thinking that’s the reason we never got to see hyper sonic again

    • @barkinglights249
      @barkinglights249 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WHATS IT CALLED

    • @Justin-qj7fk
      @Justin-qj7fk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@barkinglights249 I believe it was called “Hyper Sonic’s Problem.” Again, it’s old, so I’m not 100% sure TH-cam will give you the right results.

  • @jawndog1975
    @jawndog1975 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I would love a sonic game where super sonic isn't enough. The enemies are too strong so they collected the super emeralds at the end and turn into hyper sonic.
    Edit: Wow. Its my first time getting this much likes. TY for the support

    • @JasonDevil06
      @JasonDevil06 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Super Sonic's fought beings and gods that can wipe out dimensions and time there's not a lot of people that can beat him

    • @DevilsNeverCry333
      @DevilsNeverCry333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Frontiers. There is technology stronger than him.

  • @Muicheerio
    @Muicheerio 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If mephiles comes back all I’m saying is that’s the perfect time to reintroduce the super emeralds

  • @TotherKoala
    @TotherKoala 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah... about that... sonic literally went to another dimension in Final Frontier

  • @Barfywastaken
    @Barfywastaken ปีที่แล้ว +11

    this is literally the sonic equivalent of
    "did know mario 2 is a reskin of doki doki panic"

  • @shroomfruit345
    @shroomfruit345 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    If they brought him back his colors should probably change slower and more smoothly than they do now, but I’d love to see him at some point

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So just fade from one color to white and then fade into the next color. Perhaps a little white light pulse during the white phase. I think it could look good like that. No need to flicker.

  • @user-ov1ip7rj5x
    @user-ov1ip7rj5x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would LOVE to see hyper sonic again

  • @guts60
    @guts60 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Archie Sonic: “Hopping between dimensions? That’s easy, lemme go do it right now!”

  • @Sonicdudestfu
    @Sonicdudestfu ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I do think there should be a game where sonic gets teleported into another reality where the super emeralds are there in a 3D area.

  • @xTriton_
    @xTriton_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

    They've gotta be saving Hyper for an extreme threat headed Mobius' way sometime in the future, when Super Sonic just isn't enough.

    • @darrelleaster5381
      @darrelleaster5381 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly, here are my thoughts. They could have a game where they bring back Dark Sonic and Hyper Sonic in one fell swoop. Super Sonic could b using the positive side of the emeralds, and not be enough. Dark Sonic could be using the negative side of the Emeralds and not be enough. So Sonic had to learn to use balanced Chaos Energy, and master it to unlock the power of the Super Emeralds. Hyper Sonic would just be powered off of pure Chaos Energy, and Sonic would have to have full Mastery over the Emeralds in order to harness that kind of raw power.

  • @richardkirkland6805
    @richardkirkland6805 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We do see what the Super Emeralds look like when they aren't present in your dimension in Sonic Mania. They're all gray and cracked This means that the gems themselves still exist, but their power is inaccessible.

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hyper Sonic is cool, he's like a Sonic never seen before. Maybe, that would make the Kleptomobile and Phantom King bosses easier in Sonic Mania, since Super Sonic can dash but that sacrifices his rings.

  • @VTRcomics
    @VTRcomics ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Having Hyper Sonic appear just once in 3D would be interesting especially since Frontiers was going into the history and origin of the chaos emeralds. I think we should definitely at least see it once more because nothing else from the classic era has really been left behind.

    • @prplbowtie
      @prplbowtie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the fucking statue in sonic cd:

    • @pacifistichuman82649
      @pacifistichuman82649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@prplbowtiethe what

  • @Totoma7163
    @Totoma7163 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Mods have leave the chat

  • @artistanthony1007
    @artistanthony1007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obviously he's OP, too much power anyone could possess.

  • @orealz
    @orealz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always thought the super emeralds were just chaos emeralds enhanced by the master emerald.

  • @cherry_flavored_content
    @cherry_flavored_content ปีที่แล้ว +27

    One thing that gives me hope is that in one tweet from Morio Kishimoto he said that he had interest in exploring new forms for Sonic, answering a question about Hyper Sonic. So while the Hyper form itself might not come back, maybe something similar could show up in a future game

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      New forms would be cool but Super should still be the strongest, forms like Darkspine and Excalibur are awesome despite not being half as powerful. We should've gotten the cyber form that was built up in Frontiers

    • @semu8030
      @semu8030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or DLC 👀

    • @cherry_flavored_content
      @cherry_flavored_content ปีที่แล้ว

      @@semu8030 I think the DLC would probably just make Super Tails and Super Knuckles canon again if anything, and introduce Super Amy or a similar concept, assuming that the other characters get to play through the whole game including bosses

    • @semu8030
      @semu8030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cherry_flavored_content The third DLC will have a new story for the game with Knuckles, Tails and Amy being playable. The idea of bringing super Knuckles, super Tails and super Amy sounds really ambitious and I doubt that will be the case. Through the game's story, the three of them mentioned they want to travel around the world or "be on their own for some time", so I'm guessing the DLC will show us just that. They could make the three characters playable in the islands but I think that would brake the game. If Tails can fly, Amy can jump higher and Knuckles can glide and climb, we as players could skip pretty much any limitations the game originally had, but on the other hand if the developers don't give these characters such abilities, fans will get pissed because they don't play as expected. That third DLC is the one I'm most worried about, because Sonic Team is risking a lot there

    • @cherry_flavored_content
      @cherry_flavored_content ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@semu8030 It is a very ambitious thing yeah, but at the same time I guess it would make sense that they can break the game, Sonic can already do some things to skip sections by boosting off rails or using the 100%-not-a-glitch homing dash, and given that they're DLC that probably would only be unlocked at the end of the game, it's more like a reward. It's like Super Sonic in the classic games, the invincibility and extra attributes makes the game a non-issue, but it's fun.
      The idea of it being their own adventures would be pretty cool, but I think it's more likely that those would be reserved to their own spin-offs

  • @wander7812
    @wander7812 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Definetly the most underrated forms from the Sonic franchise:
    - Hyper Sonic, (Sonic & Knuckles)
    He looks unique and is the ultimate form basically. I really enjoyed the appearance of it and how giant Sonic's spikes got. I really love this form and wish we could see more, specially because of how mysterious it truly is.
    - Darkspine Sonic, (Sonic & The Secret Rings)
    Because... well it looked nice? I liked the firey powers, and the logic behind it. Sonic absorved the power from the negative rings, meaning if he had all 7 power rings, he would have got some Superspine Sonic? which means "this is not even his final form"! I want to at least see some outside art from the devs that shows us what Superspine would look like.
    - Turbo Sonic, (from the Sonic Adventure games).
    The execution in gameplay was weird but cmon the concept was cool! Sonic focusing the energy of his spin dash on himself to get to move like quicksilver is a cool concept.
    - Excalibur Sonic, (Sonic & The Black Knight).
    It simply looks UNIQUE, the transformation was like some Super Sentai or Power Ranger sequence, or something from Saint Seiya. The story of this game was also underrated.
    - Dark Sonic, (Anime Sonic X)
    Yes its canonically weaker than Super Sonic, but who cares? it was cool. In the japanese dub Dark Sonic wasn't like a "edgy psycho" like in the 4kids dub. In the official version of the anime (JP Dub) he was quiet... and just aggressive. I liked it.

    • @tedioabsoluto5780
      @tedioabsoluto5780 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      dark, spine and excalibur SLAPS

    • @blackjehoplays4439
      @blackjehoplays4439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ultra Sonic From the comics

    • @lukenogami
      @lukenogami ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i like the fact that dark sonic doesn't necessarily needs the emeralds, it's just sonic being angry and losing his temper

    • @tedioabsoluto5780
      @tedioabsoluto5780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukenogami i mean in sonic X there was the fake emeralds, and sonic losing his temper and reaching the limit looks more like fleetway, but yeah pretty much

    • @wander7812
      @wander7812 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lukenogami Listen idk where you took that, but he needs the fake emeralds, and to be surrounded by MANY of them.
      He then needs to not get just angry, but be filled with multiple dark emotions. He needs despair, fear, anger, and uneasiness.

  • @KaiserKusanagi
    @KaiserKusanagi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic Mania shows that the Super Emeralds are still in that Alter. But now they are cracked and damaged. Plus they have lost their power.

  • @larrygiles8556
    @larrygiles8556 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hyper Sonic and Hyper Tails was cool. They should definitely bring both of them back. Having the animals help Tails fight was a nice touch.

  • @adachiaishi1668
    @adachiaishi1668 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Would be pretty sick if hyper came back. They could even make a new dlc for frontiers, incorporating an island to find collectibles like in the base game to maybe power up each super emerald like you would in S3&K. Heck, maybe even a new even cooler final boss.

    • @loremipsum5116
      @loremipsum5116 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It would be better to save it for the sequels. Flesh out the origin of the chaos emerald and tie them into the super emeralds at the same time. I'm still really interested to see where that storyline was going

    • @adachiaishi1668
      @adachiaishi1668 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loremipsum5116 truuueeeee

  • @adamatif288
    @adamatif288 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Hyper Sonic was such a cool transformation in Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

  • @xxthemasterloquendoxx4221
    @xxthemasterloquendoxx4221 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    hyper sonic is like sonic ssj2

  • @M0HAK0
    @M0HAK0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes I would love to see Hyper Sonic again. Very sick transformation.

  • @XR-CreatorYT
    @XR-CreatorYT ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hyper Sonic was one of my favorite sonic forms, I hope we can see it in later games if they change the lore behind why he can't or at least put him in official content other than games

  • @treythornton19
    @treythornton19 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I would say, yes. I will like to see Hyper Sonic for the future sonic games.

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

  • @kyberion
    @kyberion หลายเดือนก่อน

    hyper sonic predicted every transformation from Dragon Ball Super

  • @puglife658
    @puglife658 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There could have totally been recreations of the super emeralds in cyber space in frontiers so that sonic could be hyper sonic for the final boss considering they used super sonic for all the other bosses.

  • @Artemis_Nyx
    @Artemis_Nyx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think i read that in one of the comics is that the power of hyper sonic was so great it nearly killed those who used them so they locked them away. Tho theres also something matpat said, but i don't remember which video it was.

  • @dr.c139
    @dr.c139 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I think we should see hyper sonic again at one point

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

    • @mariobrine7012
      @mariobrine7012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finally somebody that believes the Master Emerald could aid too, it controls the Chaos Emeralds so it could pull out more power just so Sonic can unlock the Hyper form BRIEFLY for a final attack.

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mariobrine7012 and judging by the stuff he was able to do in frontiers, I think hyper sonic would delve more into the dragon ball territory. And I mean come on, we all pretty much want that

  • @Jay_Hendrix
    @Jay_Hendrix 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "They're in another dimension" ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯
    As if that has ever stopped anyone in the Sonic universe from reaching something ever before

  • @cheeseisgood17
    @cheeseisgood17 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's the in-game reasoning, however the actual reason is because Sega didn't want to continue treading near Toriyama's designs/Bird Studios.

  • @jaynight15
    @jaynight15 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Nazo Unleashed had the Super Chaos Emeralds appear in a pretty good way

    • @Gunnbaby6
      @Gunnbaby6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      FR

  • @shadowsilvertailsfan
    @shadowsilvertailsfan ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I swear that I heard in an interview that they did not bring him back, due to fear of copyright from Dragon Ball.
    While I would love to see him, I don't think we will any time soon

    • @DatWilsonBoy1610
      @DatWilsonBoy1610 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That’s why I’m confused, because Hyper Sonic came out way before MUI, hyper sonic released in 1994 and MUI released in 2015, so if anyone gets copyrighted it should be dragonball

    • @shadowsilvertailsfan
      @shadowsilvertailsfan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DatWilsonBoy1610 I totally agree. I always have, but one of my friends loves DB and he said it came first. I dunno

    • @pootispastry397
      @pootispastry397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it was less of a copyright issue, more of "We don't want our spiky protagonist too closely resembling another spiky protagonist from a certain anime"

    • @bluestreaker9242
      @bluestreaker9242 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pootispastry397 Which is...odd to me. Because even OG Super Sonic predates Dragon Ball. :/

    • @JJ-yl2mi
      @JJ-yl2mi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bluestreaker9242no it doesn't Dragon Ball Z is much older than you think

  • @monikakoti7143
    @monikakoti7143 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hyper : ITS BEEN 30 GOD DAMN YEARS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @unknownMJ69
    @unknownMJ69 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    there needs to be a game with all the forms back

  • @averagegohanfan0o0
    @averagegohanfan0o0 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I think it would be fun as a end of game form that you can explore with and maybe do bonus levels or something

  • @nerdydebaterjj
    @nerdydebaterjj ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It'd be simpler if Sega just figured out a real way the Super Emeralds could be used. Like how they could create an alternative way the Master Emerald could potentially power UP the Chaos Emeralds and unify their energy to make them stronger. Or in Super form, Sonic powers the Chaos Emeralds with his new abilities in order to make them much more powerful then they were before, and then ABSORBS them once again. Simple.

  • @omnifunkin7210
    @omnifunkin7210 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see Hyper Sonic again

  • @jeremiah6945
    @jeremiah6945 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It would be interesting to see how they could make Hyper Sonic return

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

  • @flynnroberts7787
    @flynnroberts7787 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I hope it returns...

  • @charizardunites
    @charizardunites 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope we get a game where the super emeralds show up but they get spread around the world and we have to find them, but we have the chaos emeralds to help, and the final boss has us turn hyper. Maybe we can use hyper in post game, a dlc, and maybe an appearance of dark sonic too for the sonic x fans.

  • @floridianliau35
    @floridianliau35 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always assumed that Hyper Sonic was no longer used because of epilepsy

  • @jeskerjames3260
    @jeskerjames3260 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Such an underrated form, I would love to see it return!

    • @Kill_peter
      @Kill_peter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hype sonic is NOT underrated😭

    • @sonichacker141
      @sonichacker141 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      super sonic is underrsted
      hyper sonic is overrated

    • @kakska4059
      @kakska4059 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@sonichacker141super sonic is literally used in almost every sonic game, how can something that the fans have seen over and over again be underrated? If you think its underrated its because fans already know how strong he is, hyper sonic on the other hand hasn't really gotten any chanse to prove his strenght against powerful enemies unlike super sonic.

  • @Dark_Mario_Bros.
    @Dark_Mario_Bros. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mania's Super sonic in the final battle is literally Hyper Sonic, but without the broken instant destruction flash and able to fly

    • @spider-soniczilla2989
      @spider-soniczilla2989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think due to Hyper originally going to be in the game, that's probably where we were meant to use him.
      That's just my guess.

    • @Jpx0999
      @Jpx0999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Instant destruction flash is sonic most OP mov3 ever

  • @mitchellhancock7920
    @mitchellhancock7920 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would LOVE to see Hyper Sonic make a return. Heck, even Ian Flynn wants to see Hyper Sonic return.

  • @SilverDemon04yt
    @SilverDemon04yt หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be nice to see Hyper Sonic in a game after Sonic 3. Like you said, the Super Emeralds are in another dimension, so maybe someone out there could make a game to reach that distance.

  • @wearywanderer1912
    @wearywanderer1912 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hyper Sonic is basically Mastered Ultra Instinct foreshadowing.

    • @KINGPLO-
      @KINGPLO- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hyper sonic came out before

    • @ezztoxic6439
      @ezztoxic6439 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KINGPLO- hence why he said foreshadowing

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Morio Kishimoto: "Please allow me to introduce myself."

  • @jijiedamimi
    @jijiedamimi 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was 2 months ago years old when I first heard about Hyper Sonic's existence.

  • @memezabelle
    @memezabelle 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i would love for this form to always come back as a bonus rather than something for story

  • @BerkayGaming2011
    @BerkayGaming2011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is a way to Sonic to transform into Hyper Sonic but it’s impossible
    Step 1: He needs to recollect all 7 Chaos Emeralds again
    Step 2: He needs to convince Knuckles to get powers from the Master Emerald
    Step 3: He needs to use all 7 Emeralds then go Super
    Final Step: He needs to touch the Master Emerald to go Hyper
    And that’s all steps

  • @vdmix8170
    @vdmix8170 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I remember, a tweet from Morio [one of sonic team staff members] said that Hyper Sonic was sealed, and we might have a form equal to hyper.

  • @jamimuhammad3699
    @jamimuhammad3699 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly with sonic prime multiverse and sonic multiverse just have egg man open a rift to them and then sonic collects them and goes hyper sonic.

  • @andrewmalbon
    @andrewmalbon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me rn: TRAVELING DIMENSIONS IS SONIC FRONTIER’S WHOLE STORY

  • @ramonvasquez3503
    @ramonvasquez3503 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd love to see it again, but love the fact that we never will even more...he's like a legend, a statue of Hercules kinda

  • @ahmadkazan5473
    @ahmadkazan5473 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I think it's better lore wise that super sonic remains sonic's strongest form as it makes no sense that a tool with infinite power needs another tool to be used at full potential.

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly, I don't count S3K as canon, Sonic 3 is canon, Sonic & Knuckles is canon

    • @georgeshaw4017
      @georgeshaw4017 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@gunman8452 They are the same events just together.

    • @patrickdixon7202
      @patrickdixon7202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gunman8452 Shush.

    • @personalover249
      @personalover249 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Darkspine and Excalibur are stronger than Super

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@personalover249 no they aren't

  • @tempgamefreakgaming
    @tempgamefreakgaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I recall correctly, in Sonic Mania the player can find the Super Emeralds cracked and grey... meaning it was a one time thing in Sonic 3...

  • @hinhinwong
    @hinhinwong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THE WORLD NEED HYPER SONIC

  • @Oreo_Meowy
    @Oreo_Meowy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Would be so dope to see hyper sonic again sadly SEGA said he would never come back :(

  • @cullbear55
    @cullbear55 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hyper Sonic in SA3, make it happen lol

    • @BoyleVoices
      @BoyleVoices ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the one. 2027.

  • @iProxymoron
    @iProxymoron 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Before canon was canon, there was Hyper Sonic. Bring. Him. Back.

  • @bellegacha2448
    @bellegacha2448 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hyper Sonic is furious because he was shut down for 30+ years- SEGA should run..

  • @OmegaStarstrike
    @OmegaStarstrike ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yes, I'd like to see Hyper Sonic again. And they can bring that back.