Thanks for the informative video. What an impressive pentesting key set. It's crazy that US companies still put these common locks on buildings, utilities, cabinets, elevators and vehicles. However, in the UK, these keys would have little benefit to the pentester. You will rarely encounter locks that use these keys! Personally, I'd advise the UK pentester to carry out methodical reconnaissance of their target building and its employees. A 'chance' meeting in a pub after work might yield their rfid credentials (after a few drinks, show them your Chameleon Tiny which you've neatly labelled as a Door Key Charger!) As far as mechanical locks go, I've found the Lowe & Fletcher locks to be prevalent in locker doors, filing cabinets, desk drawers and other office furniture. So, in the UK, buy the Master keys for the locks you've seen in use. For me, the M92, M18, M31-33 & Ffe master keys will practically open everything. Except server cabinets. But fear naught. A cheap set of small, medium & large jigglers will open most of those locks. Incidentally, please don't expect the lock to pop open after a few frantic 'back & forward' / 'up & down' strokes with the jigglers! These require a lot of practice, methodical slow handling (and you need to be sensitive to the slight resistance or movement from the core while fine-tuning your turning pressure!). Oh, and a set of tubular lock decoders (they won't fit on a keyring but the night you leave them in your car, is the night you'll encounter them in the building!) Great video. Thanks.
Yep, these keys are admittedly best for people in the US, so thanks for sharing that excellent info! Do you have a favorite place for acquiring keys in the UK? What's your favorite UK source for tubular decoders?
While the FEO-K1 for elevators is fairly common, I'm unaware of a tubular key that can match the commonality of the CH751. Of course a couple of people I checked in with on this gave me snarky replies such as a BIC pen, or a toilet paper roll. Those only work on cheap tubular locks.
Excellent, that you have a TOOOL ultimate handcuff key. I have made dozens over the years with varying levels of success :D. Currently I only have 1 pair of cuffs which need it but I am waiting for delivery of another one and I am sourcing a different one elsewhere. I never go anywhere without one of those keys on me. I have a large collection of cuffs by most people's definition and I know pranking is a thing as well as the infinitely rare criminals who try and make a buck by grabbing someone off the street. Better to have and not need, I always say.
Thanks! I'm just getting started, so my equipment is pretty basic right now. You're right in that I could probably use a mic so it's a bit louder and clearer.
Oak City Locksport you could even get a free audio/video post processing app and boost it that way for now; so long as you watch the peak levels that shouldn’t introduce much if any distortion
I would suspect that the jigglers, quick stick, and handcuff key might be handy, and the DoorKing and Linear keys might also work since both companies are international. The other common keys probably won't work outside of perhaps an office environment if at all.
Can you tell me more about the Hudson B key? Is this the same as Simplex B key/CAT30 key? I was trying to look it up but was having problems finding a Hudson B key. Thanks
Looking at the Kwikset "Decoder Key", you say it is cut 1,2,3,4,5,6 when there are only 5 spaces, but yet you say it is cut in all 6 depths? Clearly it is cut 2,3,4,5,6 = 5 cuts -- I suppose you could call the uncut key blade next to the shoulder as a cut 1, as a 1 cut would only be just a tiny bit removed from the key blade. I only point this out because I was going to cut one myself according to what you said, but that wouldn't be possible; except if you were to move the key blade back a bit to allow 6 cuts to be made, but as an incorrectly spaced "decoder" key -- that must be it.
Hey Ken, thanks for watching, and sharp eye! You're correct, ordinarily this key could only have cuts 2-6, and the '1' cut in this case couldn't exist. The '1' cut was made by hand from what should normally be the uncut shoulder. It shows some minor imperfections that indicate it wasn't made by a key cutting machine anyways. Here's a quick Google album where I show my key decoder at the '1' depth, and a potato quality of the shoulder so you can see it's not as 'clean' as the other cuts. photos.app.goo.gl/xYnkcTVMwXDazLew8 So, in order to make this decoder, you'd need to cut 2-6 to code, then use a file pr something on the shoulder.
Would be curious to see the elevator set
Thanks for the informative video. What an impressive pentesting key set. It's crazy that US companies still put these common locks on buildings, utilities, cabinets, elevators and vehicles. However, in the UK, these keys would have little benefit to the pentester. You will rarely encounter locks that use these keys! Personally, I'd advise the UK pentester to carry out methodical reconnaissance of their target building and its employees. A 'chance' meeting in a pub after work might yield their rfid credentials (after a few drinks, show them your Chameleon Tiny which you've neatly labelled as a Door Key Charger!) As far as mechanical locks go, I've found the Lowe & Fletcher locks to be prevalent in locker doors, filing cabinets, desk drawers and other office furniture. So, in the UK, buy the Master keys for the locks you've seen in use. For me, the M92, M18, M31-33 & Ffe master keys will practically open everything. Except server cabinets. But fear naught. A cheap set of small, medium & large jigglers will open most of those locks. Incidentally, please don't expect the lock to pop open after a few frantic 'back & forward' / 'up & down' strokes with the jigglers! These require a lot of practice, methodical slow handling (and you need to be sensitive to the slight resistance or movement from the core while fine-tuning your turning pressure!). Oh, and a set of tubular lock decoders (they won't fit on a keyring but the night you leave them in your car, is the night you'll encounter them in the building!) Great video. Thanks.
Yep, these keys are admittedly best for people in the US, so thanks for sharing that excellent info! Do you have a favorite place for acquiring keys in the UK? What's your favorite UK source for tubular decoders?
Here from the lockpicking lawyer!
Heeey, thanks for the word out! Much obliged, and subscribed!
The Hudson B key, and the E004 key are actually alarm box/controller panel keys!
@@RubberBanned does the Hudson B key go by a different name? Im having issues looking it up
Is there a common barrel lock key for generic off the shelf locks like the CH751? One key I like to carry is the 50504 key for opening restroom items
While the FEO-K1 for elevators is fairly common, I'm unaware of a tubular key that can match the commonality of the CH751. Of course a couple of people I checked in with on this gave me snarky replies such as a BIC pen, or a toilet paper roll. Those only work on cheap tubular locks.
Excellent, that you have a TOOOL ultimate handcuff key. I have made dozens over the years with varying levels of success :D. Currently I only have 1 pair of cuffs which need it but I am waiting for delivery of another one and I am sourcing a different one elsewhere. I never go anywhere without one of those keys on me. I have a large collection of cuffs by most people's definition and I know pranking is a thing as well as the infinitely rare criminals who try and make a buck by grabbing someone off the street. Better to have and not need, I always say.
Insightful and informative. Might need to up the volume in future episodes though.
Thanks! I'm just getting started, so my equipment is pretty basic right now. You're right in that I could probably use a mic so it's a bit louder and clearer.
Oak City Locksport you could even get a free audio/video post processing app and boost it that way for now; so long as you watch the peak levels that shouldn’t introduce much if any distortion
Hey, i'm from europe and i'd like to ask if this set of keys is also useful here as much as it is in the US.
I would suspect that the jigglers, quick stick, and handcuff key might be handy, and the DoorKing and Linear keys might also work since both companies are international. The other common keys probably won't work outside of perhaps an office environment if at all.
Do you plan to make anymore videos?
Howdy
Working on some ideas ;) Just gotta try to come up with some content the 'celebs' haven't done yet. Got a couple ideas formulating....
Can you tell me more about the Hudson B key? Is this the same as Simplex B key/CAT30 key? I was trying to look it up but was having problems finding a Hudson B key. Thanks
It looks identical to my Simplex B/Cat30 keys, so I'd say it is.
Do these tend to work in Europe or is this mostly for the US?
Looking at the Kwikset "Decoder Key", you say it is cut 1,2,3,4,5,6 when there are only 5 spaces, but yet you say it is cut in all 6 depths? Clearly it is cut 2,3,4,5,6 = 5 cuts -- I suppose you could call the uncut key blade next to the shoulder as a cut 1, as a 1 cut would only be just a tiny bit removed from the key blade. I only point this out because I was going to cut one myself according to what you said, but that wouldn't be possible; except if you were to move the key blade back a bit to allow 6 cuts to be made, but as an incorrectly spaced "decoder" key -- that must be it.
Hey Ken, thanks for watching, and sharp eye! You're correct, ordinarily this key could only have cuts 2-6, and the '1' cut in this case couldn't exist. The '1' cut was made by hand from what should normally be the uncut shoulder. It shows some minor imperfections that indicate it wasn't made by a key cutting machine anyways. Here's a quick Google album where I show my key decoder at the '1' depth, and a potato quality of the shoulder so you can see it's not as 'clean' as the other cuts. photos.app.goo.gl/xYnkcTVMwXDazLew8
So, in order to make this decoder, you'd need to cut 2-6 to code, then use a file pr something on the shoulder.
@@OakCityLocksport OK, Thanks
Do you ever visit your southern neighbors? For 1000 subs I can think of another elevator key to add.
Southern? As in SC? As for elevator keys, I have a list of about 12 supervisory keys that Howard Payne put together for me ;)
@@OakCityLocksport any more info on this? thanks