What's the most climate-friendly milk?
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- Eating green is overwhelming. It feels like ANYTHING you buy will hurt the planet. But when it comes to milk, some choices are better than others.
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The fact that veg. milk is more expensive than cow milk is quite disturbing.
One is obviously over-subsidized, and the other is grossly over-priced because it targets rich hipsters.
Economies of scale also play a roll, but yes those are both true.
I think that the prices are getting lower / more similar. I think the selection in my usual supermarket has been growing a lot.
I don't think this is the only reason. Vegan diet is essentially practiced by people with good enough income to not have to worry about being able to eat period. Companies know that and make Vegan product more expensive because they know people are ready to pay extra to be environment friendly. Cow Milk industry is well established industry for a product considered too common to warrant a high price. Noone would pay extra for some cow milk and so the price are kept low.
It's all commercial strategy.
@@Marekthejester That's pretty much exactly what the person you're replying to said ("the other is grossly over-priced because it targets rich hipsters").
I live in Argentina where cow milk is not only not subsidized but heavily taxed and it is still cheaper than veg milk. It all has to do with production scale and that is driven by market demand. That means that most people still consume regular dairy foods, which are not only delicious but great for human development when consumed responsibly.
My favourite plant milk is oat milk. It is the cheapest, most environmentally friendly milk and it can be grown locally. It is also the most delicious one :)
Yeah but it ain't MILK. Milk comes from mother's glands, so why do you think you have to lie about it?
@@tezzo55 I wrote PLANT milk, I didn't say cow milk, so I didn't lie. Most people call it "plant milk", what's wrong with you? Why are you so angry?
@@tezzo55 yeah all, except of you ;)
Sorry but this is too stupid, I will stop the "conversation" here.
The problem is if it's not organic oats it'll have a bunch of glyphosate in it
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep I buy organic oat milk, but yes, you are right. Thanks for mentioning :)
That was a fantastic comparison! Thank you for doing the research. Very helpful.
omg hi 🥺❤
It's great when you run into an idol of yours on a completely different channel 😍
It is, but I wish he would have included hazelnut milk, it's pretty much the king of responsible milk substitutes. But, really, any substitute you use is going to be easier on the environment than cow milk.
Omg
O_O Wow Hi!
even without burning the rainforest i was under the impression that soy is a terrible crop to grow simply based on what it does to the soil it grows in. little surprised he didn't go into more detail about what each type of crop does to the ground they're grown in (nutrient absorption, field yield and pesticide use)
Soy milk contains some substances that are reminiscent of estrogen, so if you are male then stay away from it.
@@jantimmerby it has been proven that soy doesn't affect male hormone levels
it depends how you grow the soy. if it is done like in the rainforest areas, like grow some GM Soy and spray anything else dead, it is quite bad for the soil but there are ways to grow it kind of like oat or wheat.
@@jantimmerby Not how that works.
@@1980rlquinn Weird. Have just seen three articles about men who get hormone problems due to too much soy. With lack of sex desire and erection problems to follow. The problems disappeared when soy was removed from their diet. Soy intake should not be exaggerated by men.
Currently drinking coconut milk but will swap as soon as I can to homemade walnut milk as I have a couple of walnut trees at my parents house and they literally go to waste. I’ve made it a couple of times and it’s incredibly smooth and creamy, and the pulp can be used in cooking so nothing is wasted. Definitely recommend if you have access to free or cheap walnuts
Ooh that sounds delicious and amazing, good luck im sure u will make it a great and fulfilling routine/ritual in ur life and also u get amazing milk from it yum!
That sounds delicious, and walnuts are supposed to contain healthy fats and be good for your brain.
As Indonesian, I really don't recommend to drink coconut milk due to health reason (high fat, despite plant based). Despite extensive use of coconut milk in Indonesia, no Indonesian drink plain coconut milk. We use it as spice or cream.
On the other hand, the purest way we consume coconut milk is by making it ice cream.
Walnut and coconut milk are top tier. Much creamier than others and have a little natural sweetness as well.
Walnuts are my favorite nut, does walnut milk actually taste like walnuts? because if so that sounds heavenly
I love how basically everyone is in agreement that oat milk is the best. I've never even tried it yet, but the minute I heard that oat milk exists, I thought to myself, that tastes the best. Almond milk is too watery for me, and soy milk just doesn't taste good. Can't wait to try oat milk at some point
*Edit: I've actually tried it now, I was right. It's delicious*
Having tried many sorts my personal opinion is that milk is the best milk
I also tried coconut milk (not the stuff in the cans, but stuff that's manufactured to mimic milk), and it's pretty awesome actually. Not for steaming for my capuccino, but still great.
I rather like the taste of soymilk(perhaps a bit too much), but oatmilk isn't half bad either.
@@stijnhs if your standard is primarily based on similarity to the flavour of milk, that is definitely true, but I am not particularly fond of the taste without adding a lot of coffee and sugar.
It's delicious 😋 try different levels of "thiccness" to find the one you like. I love the extra creamy oat milk.
Personally, I really just prefer to buy from local, small-scale farms in general. Industrial farming, be it cows or plants, are both damaging. Small-scale farmers often have more sustainable practices because, well, they're just a small operation. As a person living in a developing country, it really just sounds like first-world problems to me, so I find it hard to relate to these choices 🤷🏼♀️ All of these milk choices are rather a luxury instead.
Also, you can just put an extra cup of water to your rice when you're cooking and scoop it out before it is absorbed by the rice. Put some brown sugar, and drink it while it's hot 😊
I agree that these plant based milks are luxurious for developing countries, and nice tip, I'll try it out the next time I cook rice
The problem is that the dairy industry is a huge contributor to global emissions. So it’s an issue that will affect people everywhere. Sadly we can’t feed 8 billion people with family farms so we need to replace dairy with alternatives if civilization as we know it is going to survive.
How come no mention of Hemp milk? The Hemp plant is good for cleaning the soil. It has more protein and healthy fats than other plant-based milk alternatives. Unlike other non-dairy milk options, hemp milk contains all essential amino acids, making it a complete protein. Then there is also pea milk. Finally, what about a combination milk?
Soy has also all the essential amino acids
@@4kstreamer44 The irony is you probably consume a lot of the foods you consume contain soybean oil or just soy.
@@erlannderrantem6972 Thank you! That is interesting to know. (Hopefully the soy is locally sourced rather than imported from China.) I am still waiting for a combination milk to be marketed...that should be an awesome product.
@@JP-sm4cs I don't what you're saying but okay I like oat milk as well
@@ideal2334 false irony
Oat milk became my favorite after I accepted the fact that I had become lactose intolerant. A glass of milk used to tear my stomach up so much I would cry from the pain. Switched to oat milk and dairy-free alternatives and my issues were solved.
did you try lactose-free milk? Just curious. It's regular milk, but processed with lactase to break the bond, so instead of containing all that lactose that makes you feel bad, it contains the same mass in glucose and galactose, which you should be able to tolerate. Trace amounts of lactose might remain, but if you don't go crazy and drink too much milk, it shouldn't be a problem.
Me too! Why was I breastfeeding from a cow again?
@@napillnik They said drinking regular milk caused them severe pain, so I doubt they’d be able to tolerate even trace amounts of lactose. And some people are allergic to dairy (which is different from being lactose intolerant), so in that case lactose free milk would still be a problem.
Rice paddy is part of wetland ecosystem, methane comes from manure added to rice fields. The place where rice grows does not use any additional water than what would flow through there, like Bangladesh, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia or northern plains of India or southern India. The problem of groundwater depletion is with basmati rice grown in northern India.
Someone with some common sense. Thank you
What ? I'll have to cut down on my biryani too....aa dagh it
Similarly, in most of the world, dairy cattle use only rain grown pasture to produce their milk
some part of Indonesia and Japan actually since way back then combined paddy field and tilapia fish pond into one and thus they mutually coexist. dropped rice feed the fishes while fishes eats pests and their dropping make the soil more richer for paddy to grow.
@@alexanderdvanbalderen9803 the us is not even a top 10 producer.
Is the transportation of the different milks accounted for in these numbers? For me who live in Norway to get a glass of almond milk, where the almonds are from California, the CO2-emissions of that glass of almond milk traveling to Europe must be massive compared to a cows milk from the farm next door. That goes for every other type of vegan milk. Soy or Rice milk from Asia have a long way to Europe. And also the fact that our digestive system can´t use the protein from vegetable sources as effective as from animal sources, means that to get the same results from the protein in the vegan milk, we have to double the amount of soy milk compared to cows milk, which again means that the carbon footprint gets even higher. This is the problem with everything "eco-friendly", it's maybe better, but it's not the perfect solution.
Also, almond milk uses almost 2,000 gallons of water to produce...in California!
best solution is to just cut milk out of your diet. to think you need to drink vegetable milk is a fallacy. a single almond takes 5 liters of water to grow and in his glass there were about 30
30x5 = 150 so i have no idea where he came up with the 76 number. his almond milk undoubtedly has a higher carbon footprint than that of the cows milk asspecially if hes making that "milk" from anywhere other than california where those almonds are almost all from.
Exactly my thoughts!
"This is the problem with everything "eco-friendly", it's maybe better, but it's not the perfect solution." well nothing is really perfect lmao whats the point
It may be different in Norway but here in the UK the bulk of our direct soy products (milk, tofu, etc) and almond milks source within Europe (or the general Mediterranean region for almonds). Note that a massive proportion of soy in particular from the Americas is unsuitable for direct consumption in countries with stricter rules concerning GM crops. While neither the UK nor Norway are in the EU most of our food standards are based on the EU model.
Very thorough, although I feel you are missing one point. Transportation. As a resident of Northern Europe, I expect to see a sizeable CO2 emission in the transportation of soy or almond milk, which of course would make it less climate-friendly. I also wish to see some nuance in the perspective on cow's milk - what's the difference in emissions/water if I choose organic? What about (theoretically) if I lived in the country and had a cow in my own field, just eating grass and drinking rain water? What then does it look like in a line up. In my mind "mass production" is always the greater sinner, because streamlining production is done at cost to the environment.
The US, unlike Europe, produces the vast majority of it's milk via factory farming, heavily relying on grains (including spent grains from breweries) to feed their dairy cows. Commercial Agriculture also is heavily subsidized to keep the price of their milk even lower. The GMO soy we grow is also heavily subsidized, and chemically treated. Many people are doing just what you said about buying a cow/goats, and/or are doing a "cow share" with a neighbor/family member/farm. I wonder how "big" this movement will get, as It is, I believe, a step in the right direction. :D
You have your heart in the right place and it's great that you're asking questions about your food, but generally reality seems to be the opposite of what you'd expect.
Transportation is a negligible factor in the total emissions of food, especially calorie-dense food such as meat, organic food takes more resources because it's less hardy and yields less, and large-scale anything tends to be more efficient than smaller scale operations.
I had the same thought as you about transportation. I also think that the production of cow milk, especially in the most northern part of Europe is a bit different than in the US and that water usage might be a smaller problem here. I used to drink almond milk, as it contains less kcal than skim milk but quitted as I thought the production where more water-consuming. However, it might be that water is a bit more scarce in almond growing countries than in northern Europe. I still think that local cow milk is more eco-friendly than almond, soy, and oat milk in Northern Europe. Nutrition must also be taken into account, oat milk contains more carbohydrates than skim milk and less protein.
@@deus_ex_machina_ Thank you for your answer, I think you're right. And the important thing is, that we're all asking questions and consider our impact.
However I would never forgo organic, when given the choice. Traditional (non organic) mass production may be more efficient, but it also destroys the ground and the water in many ways. So I'm just trying to strike a balance, that my conscience can allow :-)
In the future, I hope to grow my own vegetables. I would like to experiment with sustaining a closed ecosystem within my own garden. And I would like to add, I think the most sustainable lifestyle would actually be eco-friendly cities, if our governments would invest in such utopia.
I love oat milk. Oat grows here in Europe, and does not demand much from environment. Its tasty. Not too much transport to producer and customer in the end.
Annnd: How much rainforest has been cut down to grow soy?
In the end, you cannot survive just from picking fruit of the ground, pleaaaaase.
Another interesting point would be comparing the nutritional content of each of these milks
Dairy > Soy >>>> everything else. Assuming more nutrition is better (ie drink the opposite to lose weight).
rice milk doesn't have any proteins. Not my favorite personally
breast milk
and do not forget comparing nut allergies (especially, from walnut) vs lactose intolerance
Casein and lactose are the most spread allergies and food intolarences in the world. So even if cows milk have more nutrition, it can create lot of problems for many people.
And the question is what nutritional content it really have?
I like store bought soy milk, when I make it myself it's really hard to strain it down to whatever dark arts the factories get up to. Cashew milk is probably the best substitute I found for recipes, as it's fatty, and tastes pretty good. I have never liked the aftertaste of almond milk.
U probably go to the Asian country and then know what they make soy milk though :))
@@stefanstankovic1223 I have a clothe meant for it, it's a plastic product because it deforms under the heat. I'll look into cheese clothe though.
I would strain it multiple times n skim off the top for drinking. The bottom can still be grainy afterwards.
My family does homemade soy milk occasionally and if i don't get it early, ill be given the last dredges... Needless to say it was very... Cleansing... hahahaha
If you dont mind, then the flavor and all that is still very much the same. Just serve and claim it's 'with pulp'
@@princessjello I've been making it in a blender that has a heater. Insta-Ace blender. So skimming isn't really an option right away.
Cashew milk tastes good, but the production of cashew is not the most ethical one. Many women are exploited in the de-shelling of cashew and have the skin of their fingers burned by the acid inside the shell protecting the cashew.
Actually drinking oat, rice, and coconut milk are almost as old as drinking cow milk. Its actually really interesting to study human food consumption.
Well what kinda milk do you drink?
@@devonyoung3664
Oat, hemp, and coconut milk. I use all three in cooking as well.
Soy milk and crop milk consumption very likely is _way_ older than drinking cows milk since the lactase mutation in humans is quite recent. Probably about 10 to 20k years old. Before that milk was fermented and eaten as cheese and joghurt but not drunken fresh from the tit.
Almond milk is very old as well, I just read a medieval recipe that used almond milk. It was used as a substitute for cow's milk during Lent.
I would argue that almond milk is just as bad as rice milk, due to the fact that all of the US's almonds are grown in southern california and ALL of their water has to be pumped to the fields.
he said that at 4:15
Not everyone lives in the US
@@Tamara-xp9nx 70 percent of the world's almonds come form US, if you don't live on Spain or Iran then it is certain that your almonds come from the US, and you have 2 likes? People are really ignorant about their food...
The vast majority of milk produced isn't put in a carton and drunk - it's made into something else - milk powders , cheese- butter , and some of those aren't easy to replicate -
Vegan cheeses and butters are here. You can find almost any cheese or type of butter. They have been done by several companies and for prices that arent crazy either.
Check Miyoko's and violife. Those 2 are my favorites.
@@lucraetius While there are many good alternatives, there just isn't a good replacement for everything. for example I love making homemade pizza and I regularly buy local mozzarella from milk. It is stretchy and it is perfectly tangy and acidic.
I have tried several vegan mozzarellas but none of them had the flavor profile, texture or other desired atributes of the real milk mozzarella
@@lucraetius idk about cheese, but margarin isnt comparable with butter, just saying
@@lucraetius ill check it. Margarin has been butter replacement in my country for a long time (palm oil and coconut milk is cheaper here so milk is usually only for those fancy rich ppl)
@@lucraetius Ive tried Vegan butter one, it tasted like margarine to me. Maybe I had the wrong kind though
Suggestion: acoustic treatment and/or more-directional lav mic for less reverb, better intelligibility.
Thanks for the constructive feedback! We've moved our studio and are working on the issue.
And maybe a speech therapist
@@alinevignol8460 I'm curious, why would you bother making this comment? His speech is fine.
@@openmind5973 im here Looking for hes comment ex.. he said (beco) here 2:58
@@jadehonee1328 I heard "because", it was just fast speaking combined with a sub optimal microphone.
Also did that significantly detract from your understanding of the video? Accents exist and there is not one correct way to pronounce a word
Thank you for covering various milks' impact on the planet. I noticed you also made a point to mention lactose intolerance for cow's milk, but you didn't mention other health issues related to various milks, like the high carbohydrate count of rice milk that can make it an issue for diabetics, or the lack of protein and calcium in milk alternatives that need to be made up for elsewhere in the diet, or be fortified.
I’d be interested to know about how home made vs shop bought plant milks stack up compared to cows. I can easily buy all these milks, but my country is a net exporter of cows milk, while only oats are locally grown here. Is almond joy shipped 3000 miles still better than cow’s milk from within 5 miles? How about if the almonds are shipped in as almonds and I make the milk?
Why would you choose almonds over oats though? If you prefer local products, sounds like oats are the way to go. Cows milk is worst for the environment, even if you milk them yourself.
How? A cow hangs out and eats nothing but grass all day and then can produce up to 25-40 litres of milk. Show me any nut you can get that much from for so little. The "science" around cows is incredibly inaccurate and false. Look it up.
@@maya-parisan I wouldn't, but lots of people in my country *do*. I'm asking about their environmental impact.
@@JoStra15 If you want to say that about someone else's research, you have to illustrate how in a peer reviewed study. Most cows aren't hanging out eating grass - they're farmed in numbers too great to rely on grazing the land they're allocated. It would be reductive to say that all dairy is less sustainable than all alternatives, but it's not as though there's no evidence that farming hundreds of millions of cows and feeding them soy is... not great.
@@Youssii the vast majority of cows do no eat soy, they eat grass and other nutrient dense plants that are indigestible to non-ruminants. The water use impact is also incredibly inaccurate as almost all of the water a cow consumes is rainwater (which it pees out later).
As you can see from this other DW Planet A video "Bee extinction: Why we're saving the wrong bees", it's not the honey bees that need saving, it's the thousands of other bee species th-cam.com/video/VSYgDssQUtA/w-d-xo.html
I've tried macadamia milk, oat,cashew,rice,flaxseed,almond,soy,pea,banana,coconut but hemp milk proved to be healthiest alternative.
Cow milk is simply my favorite. I've tried almond milk and soy milk, and they both lack the filling and fatty taste that real milk has. I'm not gonna try to justify the emissions that cows produce though
@Hassan jas an it is a pretty spicy conversation in some of the the rest of the comments.
@Hassan jas an That's why people should focus on reducing emissions from what we already make and use. And not "Let's use something else because it produces less emissions".
It seems that there is an uprising new competitor: pea milk. I would love to see that variant added to the comparison.
what the HECK does pea milk taste like. i know what peas taste like and that doesnt sound pleasant at all to put in like, coffee or cereal
@@harveydangerfield I tried pea milk for a few months and god it was really awful. It tastes good until the aftertaste, which is super funky imo. I would still give it a shot though because the texture is satisfyingly similar to real milk, and it could just be me that hates the aftertaste.
@@teganyao2414 it might be good as a substitute in like, baking? like how you can put mayonnaise in brownies and not taste it. but pea milk is probably not for drinking with dinner
Soy milk is sort of an acquired taste, I've been drinking it since my entire life, and I can't even drink cows milk, not because I'm lactose intolerant, but because I'm just not used to it and think it tastes terrible
You ARE lactose-intolerant simply because you don't drink mother's milk. Check this out, "However if you're not actually intolerant to dairy-products, going the whole hog (or cow) and cutting all dairy out of your diet could actually make you lactose-intolerant. It's true that a large proportion of the world's population are “lactose maldigesters,” which means they struggle to digest lactose.13 Apr 2018".
There are micro filtered milk products now that remove the lactose and other problematic compounds. But I don't think many people just "drink" milk much anymore in the first place. It's more used in food or with food, in drinks and so on. I don't hate milk but I think someone who comes home and thinks mmm I'm gonna go pour myself a yummy glass of milk to drink is nuts lol.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep That's funny because I drink straight milk every day, but I think the same thing about "someone who comes home and thinks mmm I'm gonna go pour myself a yummy glass of" BOOZE. I think they too are "nuts".
All these pretend health freaks who then consume the potentially fatal, depressant poison alcohol, which along with tobacco kills 8.4 million people every year, the Rona has only killed 4.3 million in a year and a half, by contrast) they crack me up with their utter lack of self-awareness.
We live in an booze cartel where our mass psychosis means not only do we NOT consider the dangers of the boozing drug, but we don't even acknowledge it as a drug. That's what mass psychosis does for you.
Best
@@tezzo55 I dont drink alcohol, and intend to never consume it(apart from cooking)
@@a-ramenartist9734 Good man, there are very few of us. Now give up the Dodgy Sugar Water and you'll get really healthy :-)
All the best sir :-)
Cashew milk is also awesome. A bit on the thick side but perfect for cereal. Coconut milk is also good as well
ugh
Cashews release very caustic and poisonous chemicals when raw, which the end consumer doesn't worry about but the producers are often very poorly paid south american women who get covered in chemical burns from processing the beans.
Thank you folxs for the enlightenment. I really apprecilove it.
@@merlinious01 yes. To make and cater to the needs of those in more developed countries. Trivial if you ask me.
Coconut milk is just for cooking imho. I wouldn't drink it raw.
The problem with oats (but also with every grown crop) is that they are grown in mono cultures in huge pastures of land with low biodiversity and high use of pesticides and herbicides. And cows that graze freely in the pasture also add a lot of soil diversity. Which is something plants do not, they take it away. So just oat milk is not the best option.
Monoculture crops like corn and wheat are mostly given to agriculture. Feeding 80 billion animals takes a lot, as you can imagine.
Skip feeding the animals in agriculture, and whatever food we grow for humans, can be grown extensively.
Almond farms run by large corporations have been known to drill wells at an angle, robbing neighboring farms of their well water, forcing them to sell -- to the almond growers. The trees require vast amounts of irrigation. Large corporations can afford ultra-deep wells, and politicians
At the end its not about "environment friendly"
Soybean has also worsen deforestation in amazon, but there is a catch. Most soybean is used for making oil and demands has grown since the refuse to use palm oil which also promotes deforestation
Now u see a trend. As long as these businessmen are greedy, nature will be destroyed anyway
@@thebising7468 so for me the solution is Jesus
@@downbntout Jesus dont drink milk, he drink wine
@@thebising7468 Talkin bout the environmental destruction, what's your final solution? In the 70s it was 'the solution to pollution is dilution' but I don't think so anymore
@@downbntout What is the main purpose of deforestation? MONEY
What about we make maintaining forest as a business, countries with big forests like Indonesia and Brazil, also with big ocean lines like Indonesia and Australia will get incentive of maintaining the environment
Companies will also be charged based on their pollution rate
This is pretty good on paper, but then these country (countries with great nature) wont comply
Why? Becuz they dont have independency on their own, should the policy change, they wont have a chance at surviving
My solution is to have each country have percentage of their place untouched and protected
International organization should monitor the activity in those regions
Then again its good on paper, but not applicable becuz MONEY RULES
Why such an emphasis on Oatly, when also other oat milk companies exist? Oat is easy to harvest even in cold climates on existing fields.
Though thank you for making me aware that Oatly is problematic. I'll be sure to stick with the other brands.
funding,advertising and propaganda
any alternatives you'd recommend? I googled a bit, but found mostly vitriol on this topic. I'm tired of internet hate. Can I just try new stuff and then buy affordable stuff that I enjoy? In my local area I mostly found Oatly, so maybe you can suggest the brands that you like best, and where you normally find them.
@@napillnik I live in Finland where the oat products are really popular, though some of these are foreign brands: Planti, Milbona, Kaslink, Valio, Fazer, Juustoportti, and two local supermarket brands. We mostly have Fazer or Valio Oddlygood oat milk products at home, but also have used Planti and Kaslink. And Oatly... Those are all found in ordinary grocery stores.
@@napillnik oh, I just checked and Planti is also a Finnish brand, as well as Fazer and Valio. But Milbona is by Lidl, so it's German.:)
Guess I should have checked how many oat milk brands there are on an international level... It's even visible here in the landscape how popular the oat products are, because I've seen oat growing on the fields much more than ever before.
it founds insight and thus use it as an example that the product may be not harmful to environment but the profit of it can be used to support entity or politician who actually harmful to environment.
Oat makes sense
As a person That's planning to grow their own food in the future,the knowledge that oat milk seems to be deliscious and can grow locally is Very essential to me. Thank you
Oat milk is my favorite. I'm lactose intolerant so cow milk is out. Soy gives me gas. I'm allergic to nuts so all the almond and cashew base milks are out. Also allergic to hemp. So that leaves me with rice 😣 Flax 😕 and oat😀
Same for me!
Well I could drink hemp but I don't like the taste and oat is more readily available. Sometimes in the summer I use coconut rice milk.
My old boss put my coconut rice milk in his coffee by accident and told me it was the most disgusting thing he ever drank 😅
So I toast to you with my cold brew coffee with oat milk 😊
Some other options to DIY might be:
Millet, sorghum, amarant, quinoa, sesame or sunflowerseeds. Don't know if it will work out with your allergies but might be worth a try to add some variation to your menu.
The estrogen in soy he is talking about is phytoestrogen, a plant substance that is structurally similar to human estrogen. From what I've read and heard about them:
1. Most beans, seeds, nuts and grains have it. It's not really something you can avoid if you eat a normal diet.
2. There are different kinds of phytoestrogen and some do affect us like estrogen, others do not, some appear to do both. The take away however is you'd have to consume an abnormal amount of them for it to potentially become a problem.
Good thing I barely eat beans seeds or nuts, and consume massive quantities of red meat
@@notyetdeleted6319 I guess you don't eat stuff like rice or whole wheat either? (Grains).
Honestly I couldn't give up chickpeas or lentils, plant estrogen be damned.
And from what I read, the traditional method of soaking legumes overnight before cooking is already enough to get rid of most of those phythoestrogens, not to mention if you ferment them, like in miso.
If lowering your risk of many cancers is deemed a problem, i'll take it.
4:54 yes that's true, but we tend to over focus on the honey bee, who's numbers are growing, instead of wild bees which are often more important and the really endangered ones
Re: soy and the cancer scare, there is a huge difference in how Asians and Westerners consume soy. Asians generally consume 'real' soy products like milks and tofus and tempeh and miso, etc. OTH, Westerners unknowingly eat a lot of soy through their food in the form of highly processed soy derivatives.
And just to add, on the content of oestrogens; The milk that is richer in oestrogen content is, of course, pregnant mammal juice i.e. cow's milk.
I read the title “the breast milk?” and got deeply confused for a moment 😂😂😂
We asians have been consuming more vegetables than meat/dairy product daily. When i hear westerners poop once every 2-3 days is just blew my mind. I can poop 1-2 times daily. I guess it's because of our daily fibre consumption. Consuming soy milk has been a tradition of sort from centuries ago.
How on earth you only p00ped once every 2-3 days?! 😨😨😨😨
@@harukrentz435 i read it somewhere a long time ago. Maybe because they consume so more meat products than vegetables
Ever since trying oat and almond milk, cow's milk tastes meh to me.
I LOVE oatmilk, and it's really good in coffee or when making lattes
@@lamiagumbo my gf got me to try oatmilk and I can’t drink regular milk anymore
My personal favorite is soy, but cashew is also pretty good (if you want to start doing a rotation for veriety)
@@garethbaus5471 I do like soy milk, I tend to switch between oat and soy milk for different drinks. I have not tried cashew though, I'll have to try it
I use soy milk in my tea exclusively, so when I'm offered cows' milk tea made by someone else it tastes off. Not bad but like... you can tell it's a bodily fluid.
I use different milks depending on what they're going in, because I'm dairy and nut sensitive; if I have too much of either I crave death.
Hot drinks-oat milk, cold drinks-almond, and rice milk for direct consumption like cereal.
A side note for the bess, it's not the honey bees that are in danger. It's the wild local bees and pollinators, that do most of the work, that are in serious trouble. More wild and natural gardens and landscape are one of the keys of bringing them back.
Glad to find someone else who is knowledgeable of the real bee crisis
The best for climate is the one that goes with the least few steps from source to you, and the one with the least chemicals added. Which is cow's milk. Cow eats grass, makes milk, gets milked, milk is collected pasteurized and put into containers. All the other non-milks are many more steps and many more chemical processes, a lot more machinery involved, and takes a lot more initial product to make even a fraction of the "milk".
if you happen to live near a tofu factory you can probably get soy milk with the least amount of impact since it's a byproduct. It's a rare situation though
Soymilk is not a byproduct, tofu is made very similar to cheese, so you make the soymilk first, then make the tofu from the soymilk. The byproduct is soy-whey and okara(soy pulp), neither are that useful but you can technically eat both, and okara has some health benefits
Soy milk hands down is the best plant milk. Asian has been consuming soy milk much more than dairy milk. High in protein, low fat. What more would u ask for?
Well not screwing menstruation.. if i have soyproduct my cycle goes bananas. Like 45 days, 17 days bleeding..(also allergic to Nuts and gluten)
@@pppetra Don't equate an allergy with a universal effect. That's straight up misinformation.
@@swish043 i do not.
Soy(drink) screws with my reproductive hormonen and makes me feel bad.
Gluten makes me itchy, tired and 9 months pregnant in Just 2 hours. Also pain and have a cold more often.
Nuts make me gasp for breath. And tired for days after.
Rice? Same reaction as oat.
All plantbased 'milk' makes me feel worse than animal milk. Wheather allergy or sensitivity.. do not care.. Just hate the effect.
So this is the issue with information. He mentions water use and emissions but doesnt mention pesticides used to keep bugs off the crops as well as the massive amount of land that is needed for these farms as well as the effect it has on the soil after the crops are gone. Cows while they have meat vs dairy cows if we are solely talking dairy cows yes they release methane but also remember the grass they eat is easily turned into fertilizer or if you talk about the plant based foods they eat its all the leftovers from grain production normally the husks and inedible or harder to eat parts of the grains which in part is helping recycle still. Ontop of that cows just drink the water but plants constantly need to be watered. The other issue with farming aside from land is it ruins soil unless the farms use crop rotation which very few places do so it also needs fertilizer and pesticides to keep all the plants healthy. If anything the way everything is going rn the cows are the less environmentally impactful for what it does.
I love oat milk because I love oats, porridge is my go to for breakfast and flapjack for high energy snacks so it was naturally my go to. I’m glad to see it’s very good environmentally too
0:02 actually looks insane. these are not animals anymore, just products that you throw away when it reaches it's expiration date. but "we all love animals so much! so many happy cows for so many happy people."
Cows milk is the best milk you can drink. It's full of protein, and vitamins and minerals that your body needs. It is also made into a variety of cheeses which are healthy, and delicious. Yogurt provides us with good bacteria for our digestive system. Butter has short chain fatty acids which are also good for our digestive systems and there is the gut brain connection.
Yeah but it also gives me raging diarrhea and farts that could knock out an elephant. (a recent development, I wasn't always lactose intolerant) I've switched to mostly dairy-free alternatives and was shocked by how much better I felt. I still love the occasional dairy (vegan cheese just does not cut it yet) but I think its healthiness is way overblown.
@@jessip8654 If you've ever seen a baby cow go from small to very large in a short period of time, then you know it's healthiness is not overblown.
The problem with lactose intolerance is with education. People do not understand how their own cells work. If you don't drink milk for a while, your cells with shut off the ability to digest milk. The solution? Drink a glass of milk every day. This will get the cells to turn back on the the lactose enzymes. Lactose and Sugar are slightly different, but related molecules. If you want more information, read abou the LAC Operon from Genetics.
It’s a shame that the video skipped over the nutritional evaluation of the different drinks.
If I would have to guess, I would say that the glasses would be just as filled as in the other evaluations, meaning that milk Is way more nutritious than the plant based drinks.
I would like to be wrong, but the video didn’t get into it,.
My favorite replacements for milk are coffee and tea, by the way.
I drink oat milk regularly and it has at least calcium and vitamins d and b12 added. However the organic versions don't have added nutrients (I guess it isn't allowed in the EU?).
It also has less protein, more carbohydrates (but less as sugars) and the same amount of salt. It has some fat but most of it is unsaturated. The differences aren't very significant in my eyes though it probably differs between brands and types of milk.
About the bees: from what I've managed to understand, it's wild bee populations that are declining which have a massive impact on ecosystems. The reason they're dying out is because, in fact, we are overbreeding regular honeybees, making these wild ones have less resources with which to propagate their own. It's even MORE convoluted than we thought, after all...
If you have a yard, set aside some of it to seed wildflowers. More options to benefit pollinators include native bee "hotels" and shallow water dishes with landing pebbles.
So every type of plant based milk is vastly better environmentally than cow milk...
Only if you consider milk part. Cows also give meat which act as food and reduces demands on plants thus it kinda evens out
That doesn’t mean it’s better...
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t Who said so? cattles mostly graze on plants and eats what we cant eat or eat recycled hay and waste. Meat and milk are quick and easy source of food
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t That soya is mostly used to make soyabean oil and the rest of what left is thrown into cattle food.
@@user-lu6cy7hm2t so you want animals to not eat? I dont think you eat grass or hay or soya left overs nor do i think cow eat rice,wheat, bread or chocolate.
A nice, thorough examination of the topic. As I said elsewhere, I would like to know how hazelnut milk compares.
Grind up some hazelnuts, add water, then strain. Spoiler alert, you end up with hazelnut water.. not milk. Milk comes from nipples, no nipples (teets) no milk.
@@johnnyholmes8840 I think it is more or less commonly accepted that the product can be described as “hazelnut milk”, in a similar way that you can grind up peanuts and get “peanut butter” (not “smashed peanuts”) even though there is no cream (and therefore no nipples) involved. If I said “hazelnut milq” would it make any difference?
Apart from the FACT that NONE of these are MILK. They are sugar water with dodgy stuff in, and sugar ain't good for you. Neither is lying: it ain't milk. Milk ONLY comes from mothers.
@@johnnyholmes8840 stop nitpicking. We've called coconut milk "milk" since forever. In German, we even call those white liquid scouring stuff "Scheuermilch" (scouring milk), also since at least the 50s or so. Are you a PR guy for the milk industry? Because only those are now going after all these new "milk" products claiming that "it confuses the customer" when everyone has know coconut milk doesn't come from cows (since what, the 1800s?) and that you can't drink Scheuermilch either. Isn't that called scouring cream in English? Not real cream either, right? It's white, it's liquid, it's viscosity is kinda similar to mammal milk, people will call it milk. Only protectionist dairy industry PR folks protest against that.
@@johnnyholmes8840 milk is a mixture of lipids, sugars and water that's fluid enough to pour. Lipids can come from a mammary gland or they can come from nuts.
Obviously cows produce milk naturally but we can also apply the same concept by blending soaked nuts and seeds. Potato Potāto.
Cows milk is demonstrably worse for you in terms of health as well as because guess what, Adult animals aren't evovled to drink the hormone filled growth fluid of other animals.
2:53 rice patties in Japan have a ecosystem and something that people never notice the apex predator of those places is not a animal it’s a insect called the ダガメ
I love soya milk but we’ll see what i wanna try next.
Update: yes probably will stick to soya but may try out oat milk! Thanks for the video, was very informative
An almost perfect video. A lot of great points like bee health have been touched upon. Would have loved you to finish the story by presenting nutritional value per glass.
The only Brand i like is oatly, especially the barista type. When that is said, this milk is so much more expensive than cow milk. So I don’t know how long I will drink it.
Not to mention the animal cruelty that goes along industrial milk production. That's one thing that will surely go down in history as "Stuff you wouldn't believe was acceptable in the past"
If you find it hard to get used to the taste of plant milk, I recommend adding a splash of cow's milk. It will taste more like cow's milk but is still better for the environment. I had my cereals like that for quite a while - one day I was out of cow's milk and had to use 100% oat milk and I didn't miss the cow's milk.
When you consider how much nutrition there is in cows milk you see that all these milks are on par with all other milks in all categories except since cows milk is much much much more nutrient dense, it is the one that certainly gives you more nourishment per volume so it wins by a large margin when it comes to reducing packaging waste. Although I am a cow milk proponent, there is one good alternative in the plant world, I must admit, that is hemp milk
Almonds require inordinate amounts of water.
A couple of years ago, some folks here tried to blame the local dairy farmers as the reason the Murray Darling river basin here in Australia was drying up. Turns out it was the almond & cotton farms that were taking the lions share of the water allocations. Almond trees can take anywhere from 7 to 10 years before they become productive, and they require a lot of water throughout their lifetime, even during a drought. Dairy herds here are almost all grass fed. Also, during dry years they can be moved to other farms in non-drought areas or stock can be reduced by selling to other farmers. You can't move mature almond trees, and no plantation is willing to let their investment/crop die off after a long maturity period of 8 years.
5:56 actually no the oat milk needs enzymes (mainly amylase) to break down the complex carbs into simpler sugars to make it slightly sweet.
If you just blend oats with water and filter it you technically don't get oat milk but filtered porridge that needs an external source of sweetness (that's why most recipes add dates, honey, syrup, sugar)
I’d be interested to see how cashew, hemp, and macadamia milks compare. Macadamia milk in particular is absolutely delicious.
Can you do more on this topic? Including coconut, hazelnut, walnut, and others please.
Good ol' soybeans. They are available in tofu, tempeh, taufa... well, you name it. Glad to be Asian and soybean lover.
Tempe is my fav lol (im from indonesia)
@@aconitenite2715 High-five for Nusantara!
My favorite bean.
Some of my favorites include pecan milk, macadamia milk, pea protein milk, and flax milk.
Thank you for this video, my sister just became lactose intolerant and I was worried about all the true impacts that could happen. Seems like the best option is all of them in smaller numbers. So, simply to diversify the choices and don't trend on any of them. No excessive actions, like making a bunch of brand name tote bags that have the same impact as plastic because of production. Also, nice to know that I can make all of them myself without too much trouble.
This host is great, thanks for making these
I wish spelt milk would have been added. Would like to know how environmental friendly it is as its my favorite milk alternative from the taste. But thanks. Very helpful video!
Hi Deeny and thank you for your suggestion! For this video we choose the most common kind of plant based milks. Should we do a follow-up part? With spelt milk and pea protein milk etc.?
@@DWPlanetA that would be really awesome. There is such a wide variety of alternative milk choices. Would be interesting to know their environmental impact, too. Thank you!
We're adding it to our to-do-list! ;)
@@DWPlanetA thank you so much! I really appreciate it and look forward to the second part. Til then I will discover your other videos as I just found your channel some days ago.
@@DWPlanetA And hemp milk.😁
What a about the additives, it is almost impossible to buy soy milk without sugar or stabilizers. Some taste strange because of the stabalizers we think
When the effects of soy hormones came up, I immediately thought of how prevalent soy is in Eastern cuisines, so I wondered if anyone had looked into those concerns using medical data from those regions.
The hormones in soy are plant hormones not compatible with animals. There are actual mamalian hormones in cows milk which can affect humans but people are too dumb to see they are being lied to.
Im no scientist but i think there might be some racial genetic differences that mean Asians are less likely to experience the same side effects the same way causasians are less likely to be lactose intolerant
It's dairy industry propaganda. Phytoestrogens do not affect humans the same way as animal estrogen (which IS present in dairy & other animal products 😤). The amount of soy you would have to consume to see any effect is completely absurd and unrealistic.
Read “the China study”.
The issue is, you could measure the difference in phytoestrogen levels between soy-consumers and non-soy-consumers in those regions, but it wouldn't be totally applicable across different ethnic groups due to the extraneous variable of genetic variation. One would need to measure the effects across various different ethnic groups to get a good idea of what its true effects on humans as a whole is. In any case, phytoestrogens get broken down in the stomach pretty effectively and the amounts present in soy products are tiny - so I really wouldn't see a cause for concern for either sex.
I just want to ask a question about cow milk vs Plant-based milk. How much land is needed to produce one gallon of milk? All resources should be included as well in the process of making the milk. Ex. Pesticides, hormone enhancers, and feed.
The land used for cattle is frequently non-arable ie not suitable for ploughing and growing crops and the 'water used' is generally only rainwater on pasture.
@@cassieoz1702 Land used for grazing cattle is often deforested land. The rainforest is a current and well known example, but eg parts of Europe deforested a long time ago. Their farmers now say "nothing but grass grows here". Well, thats bad maintanance then, isnt it?
@@krism6260 Neither industrial farming nor industrial livestock raising are sustainable. The Jordan River does not flow into the Dead Sea for most of the year, not because of the raising of livestock, but because of industrial farming and constant irrigation. This is the price the planet pays for our desire to consume non-seasonal fruits and vegetables.
I live in the mountains, where there is very little land suitable for farming, but there are many arable lands for livestock. When they say that we need to cut meat consumption to 3 times a week in order to save the planet, I laugh, because my family eats it no more than once a week.
The problem is that some countries consume too much food. Instead of fighting this problem, the entire western world is celebraiting fatness and claiming that overeating means being confident and loving yourself and your body. The rich countries create big environmental problems and then pretend to save the world by buying plant-based milk.
@@zzz7103 You are absolutely right, the rich west is destructive in many ways. Non-seasonal fruits and vegetables are only a tiny part of it though. The amount of bananas shipped in from Kenya is nothing compared to the amount of soy for lifestock shipped in from Brazil though. Just imagine: a human eats only appr 2kg of food per day, an industrial cow eats 50kg of food. Who uses more land and resources?
I see what you're trying to say: yes, it would be way better if everyone around the world would eat meat only once a week and seasonal, local fruits and veg, like you do. By all means, yes!!. But the main culprit is the excessive amount of meat and fish people over here eat.
Myth: plant based milk is only for rich white middle class hipsters.
Fact: Asians are getting richer, so it's technically for ALL rich middle class hipsters.
...... true progress in our times.
Already knew all of this but it's still a great video getting all the information down for the viewer.
Overall you can say Soy>Oat>Almond>Rice but honestly it doesn't matter that much which one you'd pick as all of them are vastly better than cow milk.
One thing I'd like to highlight however, is that there's a huge (!) difference in taste, color and texture between brands. If you're used to cow milk, you probably say "well milk is milk" but that's not true for plant based milk at all because of how much they have to be processed into milk and every brand does things a bit different.
The first brand I'd gotten my hands on was actually that Alnatura one (2:55), which you can find in various countries over europe, and I totally hated it! The rice one tasted like straw it was the worst, the almond one was ok but too strong (which might be fine if you drink it as is like in the video but I disliked that when used for cooking or for cornflakes and the like) and the soy one really just tasted like beans. Plus I didn't like the color and it reminded more of water than milk. I was so discouraged after that.
Luckily I really wanted to get away from cow milk and tried two other brands and found to like one of them. Prefering soy milk mostly now with some almond every now and then for a change.
I buy oat milk without added sugar for a year now and couldn't be happier. I use it for my coffee and muesli.
When taking cow milk into any equation on emissions, has anyone measured the amount of grass it takes to feed cows? Surely the grass fields and hedges, certainly in The UK, that the cows live on/near take in CO2 24hrs/365 days per year. That surely is a benefit? Then there’s the transporting of rice and soya across large distances to get to Western Europe is that included? Genuine questions I’d like to know the answers to please.
Grass does help, but consider that grassland fields would typically be there whether the cow was feeding there or not. Or if it was woodland instead of grassland, it'd be even better.
@@Quetzocotol Thank you for this reply. In the UK sheep and cattle farms have about 3-4 fields empty for every field that has animals in it, because they need moving around as they eat the grass. So there could be large fields empty, add on any hedges or trees in those fields and that would make a difference.
Also, on the same track, do you know if the production emissions from companies manufacturing and processing “artificial milk” are greater than dairies. I’m not sure whether it is including transport, because that might mean international travel for no dairy produce.
I’m just interested because I don’t think it’s as simple as people make out to make comparisons on emission output to get a proper comparison.
Read the book sacred cow
@@stetomlinson3146 I didn't find proper numbers on the fly but most soy for soy milk production is actually grown regionally in North America or Europe and someone in the comments said the effects of transportation would be relatively small. I wouldn't fervently advocate this (again, haven't seen the data) but there shouldn't really be a reason to believe soy milk travelled much further than cow's milk to get to the same supermarket.
@@MellonVegan Thank you. I asked because I have seen some Vegans claim the man made materials used in replacements for leather, sheepskin or suede are more environmentally friendly!
Should it really be called milk? Isn’t it more of a juice?
My Mom calls what I drink ‘soy juice’ and she won’t even try a little sip of it.
Who cares? I ain't no vegan but I love almond milk, and I've basically replaced it just because I like it (no intolerance, no planet saving, nothing else than pure preference). Usage makes the word. I like my coffee with almond MILK, why would I take coffee with juice? That sounds disgusting.
Can you do a part 2 please? With with hemp, walnut, and macadamia milk? Maybe add a wild card like lactose free and/or coconut milk as well?
I’d also love to know more about the bioavailability of everything.
Super appreciate any and all serious analysis of all the details involved in accounting for all manner of impact comparisons between products. I've been desperate for more of that for years. At what point EXACTLY does buying local beat out buying more eco-friendly [and how local vs how eco-friendly; etc].? Supply chains..... Products that claim to "pursue sustainability" [ie donating to causes, planting trees, w/e] vs products that don't actively do anything restorative but also don't do as much harm in the first place to offset....... That kind of stuff. But, could I be terrible and ask for a part two...? I've been drinking flax milk soooooo...... Should I switch, or am I about even with oat n soy...? orrrrrrrrr........... xp
Either way, love it. Super appreciate this type of content. So deeply. Seriously
Also, like, I wanna hear about flax 'cuz that's what I'm drinking currently, but even just generally a part two. There's pecan milk [pecans don't need as much water as almonds.... heck, what nut does.?], hemp...... All kinds of nut milks and seed milks
Pecan milk with a bit of maple syrup is delicious af by the way
I'm whole food so I wouldn't normally drink that, give me dates at most, and really just give me unsweetened..............
But I had some once and I can't pretend that pecan milk with a touch of syrup doesn't taste good af, for anybody who is into that
Though again, that's just taste. I doubt pecan milk WITH syrup would be the most eco friendly
I would have guessed nuts milks are worse than grain milks which are worse than seed [/legume] milks. Eco-wise.
Lesson one, if it doesn’t come from an animal then it’s not milk.
Milk of magnesia comes from which animal again?
@@DWPlanetA Almond milk for example has a bigger carbon footprint than the dairy industry if they were scaled up to equal sizes.
Over 80% of almonds are grown in California which require very intensive watering, they also require seasonal pollinators that have to be transported on site and then off site when finished for which this is very detrimental to the environment and insect life.
Then once you have the almonds they then need to be turned into what is called “almond milk” which is vastly energy consuming, but wait it doesn’t end there as the milk then needs to be transported on huge massive carbon polluting cargo/container ships as the majority of almond milk produced in the US goes overseas to foreign countries.
At the end off all of this faff is a carbon footprint left on the planet that is substantially larger and immensely more detrimental to the environment than the dairy industry when compared in equal ratios.
Don’t even get me started on the other so called “milks”.
Yes, thanks for the list of the points mentioned in our video regarding almond milk. If you are interested in the carbon print of other milk alternatives, it is also included in the video above.
My favorite is coconut milk, hemp, and then almond milk.
Maybe, but they ain't milk, milk ONLY comes from tits.
PLEASE dont drink coconut milk, it's nothing but fat and cholesterol. Coconut water however is the best natural drink after water human should consume.
@@harukrentz435 Wrong. The "best natural drink . . . humans should consume" is mother's milk (obviously) which actually IS milk, unlike any of the other "fake" milks being spoken of here.
These would-be imposter milks are all just sugar water, with dodgy stuff in. So call them what they are, "Dodgy Sugar Water," then avoid them like the rona, as you would any other form of sugar (unless, of course, you are addicted, in which case kick that habit before it kicks you).
Thank you.
@@tezzo55 I thought about it a little and I think language is just evolving, before the word milk was exclusively used for what mammals produce to feed their youngs (also fun fact not every mammals has nipples, monotremes like the platypus don't have any!) but it is now extending it's meaning to a more general term including some plant based liquids that ressemble dairy milk. It seems to me that now the word milk isn't referring to only one product: It can be dairy milk or plant milk. (though it still is associated primarily to dairy milk, most people will think of dairy milk if the word milk is used without specifying if it is plant based or dairy, but maybe in the future the evolution of the word will make the word milk just as much associated to plant based milk than to dairy milk)
@@odessaleba7282 Hey little fella, where'd ya go? Are we still in a convo? Or did all those "facts" from yesterday make you feel queasy?
Have a beefy day my man :-)))
Loved this. Lots of modern dilemmas in food and cleaning. Like what’s better using paper towels that you can only use once or constantly washing the same rag which uses lots of water?
I personally really like the taste of rice milk, and not a fan of oat or soy. Knowing it's only 1/3 as bad as cow milk is good enough for me.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned that soy is good for the soil. It has a symbiotic relationship with a particular bacteria that replenishes nitrogen in a form plants can use.
really? i've heard it's one of the worst plants to grow next to corn in how it strips the soil of nutrients like phosphates
This is true but the plant uses all that nitrogen when it sets fruit. So the effects are only temporary unless you rototill or chop off the plants at the right stage.
I choose soy milk as I'm in Hong Kong now. It's the taste of East Asian mum's meal. They even got soy milk option in Starbucks long before this green trend starts!
When I stopped putting cows milk in my cereal I soon stopped to put in any type of milk.
I eat oats with a spoon of peanut butter and some fruits. Then I just add as much water as necessary for the right consistency. After a good stir the water looks like plant milk. When you are "washing" the oats it turns the water into a oat milk and the PB adds fat and the fruit sweetness. I think if you add extra milk it gets too much and you get a "soggy" taste after a while. With my method I can let the oats soak a bit until they are tender and it will taste neither soggy nor like water.
During the video I was wondering about the footprint of biological milk.
The only alternative milk I ever tried was soy milk tea and didn’t like it. Then I more or less assumed that other replacements were also not very tasty. I’m going to try the other varieties this week thanks to your video.
I think I still prefer cow's milk. It has the best performance when it comes to many traditional Norwegian recipes. Milk is such a big part of our tradition and cuisine that I hardly can imagine it being swapped with anything else anytime soon.
Right, and I don't think I've seen any other substitute that holds a nutritional profile similar to cow's milk.
but... but it tastes horrible :( Never understood why I love cheese but despise milk haha. What kind of traditional recipes absolutely require Cow's milk?
@@LilliHerveau more related to taste more than anything. I'm French and i could drink gallons of Cow Milk.
Soy milk is the most common and easiest to get in my country.
It's also the healthiest and most nutritious. Oat milk is great, but only the the commercial ones, oatley taste good.
Pity it tastes awful
@@cassieoz1702 Yeah, i don't like them
Oat still gives me weird stomach feeling like cow (especially OATLY but not much on other brand) but almond does not, still I'm yet to try pistachio.
Soy is almost like a free stuff here, it's Thailand, it's Asia, soy milk comes in every single form.
Walnut gives me funny stomach feeling like oat but with less symptoms, feels like cow milk when making coffee but only strong after-taste that hinders it, and although it gives me mild first taste, mid-taste is almost a cow milk and it's when I enjoy drinking it the most.
Rice, in Thailand tries to sell/advertise for more than 10 years now but still didn't gain much popularity and I can see why even rice is 90% of Thai food, the feeling was weird.
Really wanted to hear more about the health benefits and drawbacks of rice milk. Never tried soy milk by itself but I’ve enjoyed oat milk. Lack of Vitamin D and calcium is a concern though so I guess I’ll have to make sure both options have them added.
100ml of cow's milk contains 3.4gr of protein. Oat's 0.7gr/100ml so you need to drink 5 times as much of it to match just the cow's milk protein offer. Also, the amino acid profile is more limited what affects the quality of the protein and its bioavailability. For rice milk (0.3gr/100ml) it would be over 11 glasses for 1 glass of cow's milk. Rather bad deal for the poor and malnourished, and perhaps not that appealing for the environment anymore?
Anybody, who is relying on cow's or other animals' milk as their protein source, should definitely use it. Others, who are free to choose between milk varieties or any alternatives to milk, are also free in their decision. Our goal is to show which one plant-based alternative is better from the environmental perspective and also from the view of the consumer. And speaking of objectivity and comprehensivness: You left out the protein content of almond and soy milk.
@@DWPlanetA Thank you for answering. My intention was not to promote any type of milk (agree it may seem so) but to show how complex the LCAs are. Being limited by the briefness of a comment box, I selected the ones with the least amount of proteins just to make that point. Anyway, my last remark was cutting, that I need to apologise for.
Who drinks milk for their primary protein source? That's a very inefficient way of getting your daily protein intake, whether it's cow's milk or otherwise.
@@brandonb.5304 I wanted to write the same thing. Milk is mostly used for coffee or cereals, nobody would use it for nutrition.
@@vioheubach3112 Milk can also be drinked, you know? A litre of milk is about 35 grams of protein, which is a cheap and good way of getting in proteins after a workout for example!
When taken at face value cows do produce more methane than those crops, however it’s often left out how much carbon is sequestered by pasture lands or crops grown to feed those cattle…. In a single year alfalfa can double the amount of organic matter in a given soil, that crop is a massive carbon sink it’s also a main ingredient in any good dairy ration.
But if that land had been just left as is to grow naturally it is still a carbon sink. It’s not like the land popped into existence for our use for farming
In the UK, you also need to make sure that you're getting enough iodine. Dairy products are overwhelmingly the main source of dietary iodine here.
Gluten intolerant and allergic to almonds I'm going with rice milk that comes from south of France, where rice is mandatory to keep the ecosystem alive. Hard to find better compromise.
its simple: the best milk is cows milk. All the rest simply isn't milk at all but some kind of a white liquid made out vegetables. advertising "white liquid made out of soy" as "eco milk" is just as misleading as selling margarine as "eco butter". This should be forbidden.
I'd say, its just 2 completely different products delivered as "healthy alternative". When they are't anything alike.
Everyone has his right for "preferring fat coconut water", it just shouldnt be considered milk or alternative to it.
I also like how this video doesn't say "may be better for environment in future", but pretends its better right now.
Sure, those 7$/month workers at plantations and conditions they have to live in, trashing the ecosystem aren't as important as bees.
You guys are just calling any white liquid as milk😂😂😂
What do you expect from soyboys who believe everything related to climate change?
So is the nature of language. You call hot dogs, but I am sure you not expecting meat from an actual dog? Or hamburger and bacon are essentially meat from a non-human animal.
I'm glad to learn that my own findings match the ones in the video. I had switched to almond milk until I realized how much water they take to grow. Given the choice, I buy oat or soy milk for myself.
To be honest I prefer oat « drink » over cow milk for nutritive reasons. Milk is too caloric and I just use it for cereals. Oat milk can be bought with no sugar in it. I just add a bit of vanilla extract and it’s delicious. I stopped cow milk not for saving the planet but for healthier food habits. It’s just 1 of the many things I decided to change over the years. I lost 100lbs in the last 10 years and now since 3-4 years I feel great and I wouldn’t go back. I don’t miss milk, I don’t put any blame on it.
Oh man was the opposite for me, I'm lactose intollerant and been drinking soy milk for a while now, tried to switch to almond but I just can't stand the taste! even the vanilla variant, it's a no no for me, and well, it's also thicker with makes it weird for me.
This is some lazy intern level journalism. One can't simply look at the surface figures of water usage and methane to determine which is better.
Water usage with cows is a greatly exaggerated issue. You don't sprinkle water on cows for them to grow. Most of that water comes from the grass they eat, and the byproducts they are fed, things like wheat, soy, and corn husks, they can eat some of the things we don't use in food & beverage production. And most of that water is excreted back into the soil, it doesn't just vanish. In the process their dung can be used as a natural fertilizer which is much better for the soil and water compared to chemical fertilizers. Cow's milk is much more packed with macro and micro nutrients. The answer is not clear. But don't scapecow their milk and think that will save the environment. Cow's don't need arable land to survive, but commercial plants do, and they are more responsible for deforestation than cows are. How much water is being used in almond and avocado production in California?
This video also doesn't factor in eutrophication as a result of excess fertilizer from cropland. This contaminates water sources and can result in coral bleaching
Here are the environmental benefits of livestock they did not talk about:
- Livestock can help us consume food byproducts and turn it into milk, natural fertilizer
- Regenerative grazing is a great alternative to controlled field burning
- Needs no arable land to maintain
- Yield production less affected by local weather conditions
You can say that when farmers feed their cows grass and food byproducts
@@a-ramenartist9734 If you buy a bit more expensive milk, they do. The milk we have been buying comes from the Alps and the cows are outside. They are only eating grass and hay, +- the foods that they get fed with like supplements or grain etc. The milk also tastes a lot better than the cheaper version which is the mass factory made milk.
But even so, in factories cows get fed hay - which is just cut and dried grass.
I do think however that if we all chose to buy from more responsible farmers who keep their animals like they are supposed to be kept, as well as making sure the milk and even meat is local, then a lot of our problems would be pretty much not so much of a problem anymore.
The context of soya milk in Asian or mainly Chinese culture is important. It has never been sold as a cows milk alternative and so the soy food products were never judged against dairy in taste likeness. E.g. Tofu has to taste like soya, not dairy. I grow up drinking Chinese style soya milk and I love it as much as dairy but I won’t ever consider them swappable alternatives. So I’d give both dairy and soya milk 10/10 for taste! But for a dairy alternative, I’d take oat.
I've tried all sorts of milk, here is my top to bottom (also I have also been the kind that drinks milk in a glass straight out of the container). BTW, I'm vegan, but this is my unbiased experience.
1. Lactaid - I'm not lactose intolerant, but someone in my fam was and it just tasted better? Best tasting for the dairy world.
2. Whole - Would chug randomly. Lactaid tastes better IMO. Best in the dairy world in general.
3. Oat - Best veggie, it's creamy and just tastes good.
4. Cashew - It has a nutty taste, but it's naturally creamy. Hard to find though. Not for everyone.
2. Soy - Slightly nutty, but not bad. If oat milk isn't available, I'll drink this one.
3. Almond - It's okay, nothing amazing. It is watery. It's the 2% milk of the veggie world.
4. Coconut - I will rarely drink this one, not used as regular milk.
5. Rice - I would only use this in Horchata. that's it