RARE BEATLES INTERVIEWS: Manager Allan Williams; Bob Wooler, Tommy Moore
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- In a rare BBC feature, the Beatles first Manager Allan Williams talks about the Liverpool that has been left behind since Beatlemania. Also featured are Cavern DJ Bob Wooler, Freda Kelly, the Beatles Fan Club Secretary and the only known recorded interview with the Beatles first drummer, Tommy Moore.
Allan Williams became The Beatles manager in May 1960 and he got them their first drummer, Tommy Moore, also featured in this film. Allan took the Beatles to Hamburg, which is where they learned their stagecraft. Bob Wooler introduced every group at the Cavern, and was a promoter too, always there to give advice to the groups.
But it is the fact that we see a downhearted former Beatles drummer Tommy Moore who went on that first tour of Scotland when they were known as the SIlver Beatles and The Beatals too! - เพลง
Ha! “..anybody who was anybody didn’t come.”
What a line.
The interview with Tommy Moore is pure gold. First and only on-camera interview I've ever seen. Thanks for this one.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video David! Historic footage. Nice to see Freda Kelly there. Had the pleasure of meeting her once, such a wonderful person!
It is a great video with so many famous faces. Freda is indeed a lovely lady.
Great network of Beatle related people from their Liverpool days. Fascinating.
such gems the BBC archive has! I've never seen Tommy Moore talking about it!
This was an amazing video and it was sad and fascinating at the same time. Especially hearing Tommy Moore. He said a car accident ended his stint with the Beatles but I heard it was his girlfriend who told him he must get work or something to that effect. Great stuff David !
I will do a Tommy Moore video soon with the whole story. Great drummer!
I think he's referring to the car crash they had on their tour of Scotland. He was hospitalised by it.
@@msgrime1981 The car crash didn't quite end his tenure - the Fabs dragged him back on stage from his hospital bed for another show. Sometime later, Moore's girlfriend stepped in and told them to bugger off. That's the Lewisohn version.
Another Wow! I have not seen all of that footage before, only bits and pieces. Only David could have found this... Spectacular job, David!
It was a fantastic find in the BBC vaults and has some gems there. Beatles Detective again eh?
When it comes to Liddypool history, NO ONE beats David. His tenacity for finding new (old) things and uncovering them for us is unparalleled. Thanks for another !
Thanks Lou, keeps me in mischief!
The venue was a ballroom in St John's Precinct (the one opposite Lime Street) on 24th Feb 1971. The photographer must be Les Chadwick I reckon, but can't verify that at the moment. Will see what I can find out!
Yes , well worth the view remember seeing this before very interesting to see and hear again , good stuff ! 👍👍🎸😎🎸
On March 15, 1982, I interviewed Bob Wooler for an Israeli magazine. Still have the tape, Amazing memories.
Oh wow would love to hear that. Is it published anywhere?
Post it !
What a brilliant find, thanks for uploading David!....Yes, Liverpool did seem to be a musical wasteland at this point, though a few years later in 1975 along came 'Deaf School' and kicked off the 'Liverpool renaissance' of the late 70s and 80s.
Glad you enjoyed it. A Deaf School fan? Excellent, they were so important to what followed.
@@BrightmoonLiverpool I am, and they were!...And they had links with Derek Taylor at Warner Brother's, which sort of gives them a tenuous Beatles connection!
@@thebouncinghearts They were ahead of their time and kickstarted a new wave of Liverpool music.
@@BrightmoonLiverpool Had some great times watching them at O'Halligan's Tea Rooms in Mathew Street in the late 70s, they performed there every Thursday night for a while I seem to remember?
@@thebouncinghearts We've been talking with Ken Testi their manager and have some archive interview with Enrico which is brilliant. Hopefully we can share it sometime. So few people know about them.
Great to seen Cy Tucker (Tommy Thornton) always terrific, unique voice, my Sunday afternoon’s for many years. R.I.P. Tommy, what a voice, you will be with other fabulous singers now.
He was a local legend! a sad loss.
Awesome images. Historic I would say and very sad at the same time. It seems like some people expected so much, too much coming from the Beatles directly or not. Their "fame" just came later when everything, everybody linked to the beatles story was frantically sought after.
This is a great find, pure gold and I can't thank you enough for your vids about the Beatles wich are of the most interesting. You rule !
Thank you so much, we love sharing these stories of the early Beatles and finding rare or unseen interviews too.
👍👍great video David thanks
What bloody vandals Liverpool Council was to let the original Cavern Club be destroyed. It didn;t take much foresight to see the Liverpool history they were effacing. 5:00 Allan Williams says it himself even before they got around to sacrificing the Cavern: "They've done more than what Hitler could possibly have ever done." Great programme, and nice to see Freda - - I'm guessing it was made around 1970.
There was no interest in the Beatles or the Cavern by 1973, and not much 20 years later either!
@@BrightmoonLiverpool why was that?
...first-class video
great footage
thanks for
upload
Thanks Martin
Fantastic! What year was this filmed?
So rare... it was on the BBC!
Don't think it has been seen since 1971! When I was only 6!
Great old footage David...mmmm, Ricky and the Red Stripes, didn't Paul toy with that name instead of Wings? I also remember meeting Alan Williams at the very first Beatles fest at Mr Pickwicks in Liverpool back in the seventies. A definite lack of love for the beat legacy back then...at least Alan and Co tried their best to keep the flame alive in Liddypool 😁👍
Thanks Kate, Allan was a great guy always had a good story to tell! They tried to keep it going, but there wasn't enough people in the 70s to do it. After John died that changed.
@@BrightmoonLiverpool yes, a shame it took John's death to re- light the interest...such is the way of the world🙄
Finally, the rest of that piece with Tommy Moore, although I've since read the whole story. He was a jazz drummer, anyway, so it wouldn't have worked.
I will be doing a bio of Tommy as I've done a lot of research with his friends and family. He was technically a very good drummer, loved jazz, but could do the rock n roll without a problem. An interesting story to tell.
any good jazz drummer can play rock
Saw Allan Williams interviewed a couple of times. Absolutely choice language flowed from his lips, much to the embarrassment of the gentlemanly Bob Wooler. Funny to watch him minding his P&Qs here.
He was always hilarious in conversation and his language could be awful! Was funny watching him when he had to be polite! 😂
What year is this?
It was 1973
@@BrightmoonLiverpool .. Thanks
Sorry fat fingers! It was 1971
@@BrightmoonLiverpool ..Ahh .. I was thinking that would be more like it 👍
The delusion of some of them is off the scale
Exactamundo!
What a miserable film. I'm guessing this was filmed in 1971 or 72 due to the feather-cut hair and the hot-pants... Everybody whinging because they weren't good enough.
"There were over 300 groups in Liverpool in 1961." Exactly, and how many of them made it???
"The Beatles, Cilla and the Searchers didn't show up." Of course they didn't. The Beatles would have broken up by then and would never reform again
Cilla was in panto and The Searchers wouldn't turn up because the Beatles and Cilla hadn't.
Allan Williams was a small time operator who couldn't see far beyond the end of the road. "I will see that John Lennon never works again." Hahaha.
Those acts that made it, did so because they evolved beyond what they had been in 1961. The ones that didn't, got left in their wake. They certainly don't owe everything to Liverpool. The Beatles found their groove in Hamburg. In fact, the Cavern wouldn't let them play because it was a Trad-Jazz club. The reality was that all these people momentarily 'brushed' alongside the Beatles in their formative years but these people were looking to gain something from that association and not because they had a talent for anything. That's why none of them stayed in the business.
Or was it the responsibility of John, Paul, George and Ringo to give these 'hangers-on' an annual stipend of a couple of hundred pounds simply because they once went to the same club? The Beatles put the Cavern on the map and not the other way around.
The group wasn't bad but if they made three records and never got anywhere its because those records weren't good enough. There were a number of Cavern groups that did have success, but most of them drifted apart as Merseybeat faded-out by about 1965-66.
I agree it is bittersweet. So many left behind, and nobody was thinking too much about celebrating what the Beatles achieved from Liverpool. They had left for London 10 years earlier and split up 3 years before this.