For how many years, and with how many billions of tax dollars, have we invested in these "educators"? And where is the American student ranked on a global basis? Follow the money! Doing so will reveal the corruption thriving within the bloated bureaucracy known as Public Education.
My wife has been teaching at the same Public High School for 21 years now and she is just appalled. She sees her career and her retirement going down the tubes as I speak. People need to really wake up. I know that a big majority of Trump supporters are low to middle class, most have kids in public schools and they seem not to care who Trump picks. I have lost faith in a big majority of this Nation.
it should be of some comfort that 90% of public school funding is non-federal, and the states have complete legislative authority over schools. The federal government can offer funds and set conditions for these funds to be disbursed, but it cannot actually require state X to do action Y in regards to education.
She obviously can't do her job because she forced what textbooks to use instead of thinking outside the box and our kids are getting stupider every year.
vgyearone His appointees aren't politicians, but proven successful business people. They deserve a chance, then we will know if America is better off. Just one more opinion.
Buck Ofama the council on foreign relations run America. As long as president pick them as advisors and aides we will have the same America. example...Trump apointed Henry Kissinger as an aide. Bernie sanders talks down on the CFR and I doubt he would have picked anyone from the establishment for his cabinet. It would have still be a fight for a great country but one we could win with bernie.
vgyearone Hopefully, Trump and his rich, brilliant, and private successful dream team has many bright ideas to make America strong, sovereign, and great again. Only by God's grace.
I work in the construction industry in Nevada, some of my company's future projects are charter schools....I cringe every time they get brought up in our sales meetings. I look around the table and I can see that my co-workers have no idea what they are and how they will affect our community. It's funny to hear this report on how much they profit on these schools when in the building plans, they keep pushing them back for cuts in price, meaning cuts in quality product.
well, considering their funding is still very low compared to the public option, they need to either adapt or they won't be able to provide service, also their profit is capped by the state government. I think you forgot to mention that.
Fragmenting and decentralization of the publics education should lead to more fragmentation. Divide and conquer concept will only be understood by the truly knowledgeable and solidarity will not be celebrated but will be persecuted as adverse, group think anomaly, to be shunned. Or Berniecrats stand up and fight.
the whole system of our government is based upon fragmentation of government power. hence why we separate our judicial, legislative, and executive branches, hence why we have two different adversarial levels of government, state and federal, hence why our founding fathers wrote in the bill of rights and the constitution. or maybe you just forgot all of that. public unions has centralized so much power that they can hold hostage an entire state if their whims aren't met. Time we bring accountability and sanity back to our education system.
I don't understand why conservatives oppose people spending their hard-earned money on whatever they want. What exactly is wrong with Bernie buying a home? On the other hand liberals are constantly equating charters with for-profit corporations. That is valid in some situations, but there are also many states where charters are 100% public in every way. What is wrong with a little research on a subject before comment?
What is wrong with sending students with consistent low scores and students with behavioral problems to separate schools? In my city voucher schools have been great for students living in the inner city that actually care about their education. There is *so* much less violence and drugs at the voucher schools versus the surrounding public schools that have numerous students with no desire to learn. I can't even imagine how many students have just given up or had ruined dreams because of the bullshit that goes on in public schools.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
Ignoring the cabinet picks also reduces stress? plug your ears and close your eyes.. cross your fingers, tap your shoes together..its all going to go away.. the Swamp is going to drain lol.. Trump is going to change America for the better. Hillary would have done the same..they all work for the people.. they do not have masters lol.. ho hum...people are too weak, no wonder the world is going to shit
Razorhead. Eraserhead. I can only say I've been to an Amway convention in St. George , Utah on the way to Acapulco, Mexico . Multi-level marketing available soon at your local taqueria .
yeh for sure....start the flow of millions to the middle east again and free all the criminals right? or all the lefties piss off to canada or mexico...hahaha,oops just remembered thats all talk
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
President of Amway University...............with husband tried to buy governorship for $50 Million and failed now in a position to recoup losses and more. Will be lunching with Sarah Palin on capitol hill. Good Luck America
Now that Trump is in you're concerned about this process that has been going on for decades and decades? Where ya' been? Maybe you're just too young or like the rest of the nation who feel threatened in some way now that the Dems are on the run.
Giving all families opportunities to send their kids to private or charter schools in areas where public schools are subpar is a bad thing?!? Give me a break.
So how did the Public school sys become inadequate.........couldn't have been underfunding or political interference or anything like that could it? Destruction of decent Public Education for last 35 years has now produced Trump, hope you're happy, if you can afford education, good for you. Check out what Jeb Bush is up to these days.
p.s. There are a lot of strong opinions that surfaced on this thread as I wrote my reply. I'm only interested in your response. It's not surprising that you're being shouted down by the left wing opposition. I can hear & understand their arguments. I want to hear yours though.
We've been at war with the DeVos' attempts to privatize just about everything in Michigan for a long time. If you want to see just how bad of an idea her "Charter Schools" are, just look at how they are underperforming here. On average, they are well below the public schools, but those profits keep rolling in to her corporate friends. Also, don't forget her brother is Erik Prince, the founder of the disgraced mercenary group Blackwater - who engaged in war crimes in Iraq and blamed it on the US Army. I can assure you she's looking to build favor with her new boss, the groper-and-chief, President "chode-fingers," for her brother as well.
How come urban schools score so low. It doesn't give low income ppl a chance to give them a better education. I blame teachers union for keeping teachers jobs that don't show improvement.
Looks like I will be home schooling my children.....I think a lot of people might take this route too. It is a sad time for America this basket of deplorables that are going to be running everything for at least 4 years are going to tear everything apart. What will be left after they are done.....not much :( not much at all :( :(
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
I think the appropriate question would be: Does a teacher need to perform medicine to treat a cancer patient? In your analogy a teacher would need to be a children to taught children.
Your public school education hasn't giving you very much common sense huh. For profit means businesses compete to give the best education to their consumers. Oh and crap teachers can get fired. I guess you prefer government services over private lol. Not me I prefer UPS over the US post office. The market caters to the consumer the government over charges for less quality and is high inefficient.
if Republicans really like "the under-educated", and why not? since they are more manipulable, charters and vouchers will INSURE the perpetuation, and increase, of what is already a sadly under-educated U.S.population. School Marm
The statement regarding application of kids with disabilities to charter schools is wrong. As public schools, charter schools are required to enroll and serve students with disabilities in the same manner as traditional public schools and in compliance with all applicable state and federal laws. In fact, because charter schools have more flexibility than traditional public schools, they are designed to offer innovative educational strategies and provide individualized support to meet the needs of all students, including those with disabilities and other unique challenges. In order to support students with special needs, charter schools will often tailor their educational program or create specialized programs. source: www.ccsa.org/understanding/faqs/
i went to 4 different charter schools as a kid. all 4 were a joke. one got shut down for milking taxpayers - getting funds for disabled students that didnt exist.
Our Public School's are a huge failure overall. I was PTA President when my son was attending a public school. Totally support Charter School, private school, Montessori School, Waldorf School, and yes Catholic Schools.
C'mon, Democracy Now! Privatization of schools doesn't have to be all bad... I've experienced both public and private education. Stop selling out to Big Ed.
Lol, they mention chile and Sweden but forgot to mention uk which had like huge majority of schools turned into academies , which are very much like charter schools and they have been awful
the present system of public education is on course to utterly collapse... they need to allow parents a voucher system where they may choose the type of school they want their kids to attend
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
this is all so deplorable! My kids went to charter it was horrible! Kids got behind and never recovered! After two years come to find out teachers were not even certified!
This woman should NOT be allowed to purchase a position with our government so that she can destroy rather than support further our public school system.
I know a lot of arguments in here are anti-charter school but I actually went to one and it was the best school experience I ever had. It felt more like a community than a school and even though we didn't have a lot of resources, we still had programs and clubs and the teachers were very committed to their jobs. I was able to go through material as fast as I wanted and use my extra time to explore my own interests and, later in high school, work full-time. I could have gone to a private school or muddled through the rest of public school, both of which would have been much better funded and larger and both of which I tried, but I wouldn't have had the opportunities I've had without the charter school I went to. One additional note I want to make is on the idea that charter schools "cherry pick the best" and that was 0% the case. We had kids like myself who needed a different option to kids with special needs (we actually had a lot of deaf students because a lot of the teachers knew sign language) to kids who were insanely smart and dedicated students and even the rejects who were expelled from other schools. We weren't picked for some special reason, there was a wait list and when someone left the school or they afforded a new teacher, new students were allowed in. If we set the proper requirements on what can be a charter school, we might actually see less poor results from charters and see more results like myself (not miserable and pleased with their education).
Im not a teacher, Im a youth coach (volunteer). They are taking money FROM PUBLIC SCHOOLS to fund charter schools. If you have 2 buckets, one full and an one empty. Then you take water from the one that's full to fill the other bucket. Then people are amazed that you no longer have a full bucket, you have 2 half empty buckets. The charter school bucket has a valve in the bottom, and that valve can be opened at anytime for any reason with no accountability, no oversite and no regulation. And the person with their hand on the valve is a water hoarder on steroids. (billionaires) My best analogy
😂😂😂😂😂. Welcome to your privatized world middle class voter. Your upset about being broke and now you'll have privatized schools, medicare, and medical insurance. Think your broke now 😂😂😂. A private run, for profit school will always need more money. I do realize I'm screwed as well for 2 years 😡
If you could stomach it, I'd recommend checking out right-leaning news sources. I lean to the right (I refuse to put a political label on myself), but I check out left-leaning news sources to try to see the bigger picture. I wish there were a news site that combined both types of coverage, but media bias is pervasive.
I dont think theres wrong with having a bias, we all have one, its natural. But just let your audience know what your bias is, make it clear. And then tell the news as it is.
There are a few pro charter school documentaries out there and watching one of them would make you see why some people fall for it. Because they basically in a very friendly mannered voice and such. Portray public schools like shit and charter schools like heaven. So to a parent that doesnt think too far or similar. Charter school can look like the obvious school, *IF* you care about your kids of course. Which they will most likely mention in some way that the best schools in X, Y, Z area has been a charter school the past X years and we just happens to have one parent here that first had her kid at a public school for one year, which was bad and here she is saying that, but on year two went for a charter school instead and now everything is just like a commercial. The short response is this. Charter schools is only easy to see as negative if you have a macro view of education. However most parents do not see further than what they THINK is best for their kid.
So you are right leaning person who doesn't put a label on themselves. There are many channels out there that try an stay neutral and do cover both side, eg BBC.
I'm calling out a thief as a thief and naming them. Pennsbury Schools. Bucks County, PA.. Teachers being paid close to or over $100,000.00 per year plus benefits. Retirement packages that can and will run 2-3 million U.S. Dollars! Fire all of them and give them Free Market Freedom like the people that are forced to pay their wages!!!
Teachers in many districts are required to have a Master's Degree so they should be well paid. If you want to attract the best and brightest to careers in education you have to pay them. A free market cannot attract and retain quality educators without adequate compensation.
Everybody's talking about her destroying public schools LOL!! Public education is already destroying itself! She couldn't push it faster over the cliff! Scrap it and rebuild. We have NOTHING to lose.
At 5:10, Diane Ravitch, former Assistant Secretary of Education under G.H.W. Bush, said that most vouchers are used for religious schools and do not provide enough money to pay for an "elite school", so most of them are used for, "like in the south, it's *backwards, fundamentalist church schools* that have uncertified staff." Haaah-ha-haaaah!!! So the public schools have certified staff and they turn out the embeciles we see in society, who often cannot even read their own diploma and are so dumbed down they vote for public officials because they are black, or because they are a woman or because they are gay, or because they used to be an actor, or any other trait that has nothing to do with the qualifications necessary to protect our rights and do their constitutional duties? Pfft! I'll take "bacward" and "uncertified" any day over forward and certified by the nut jobs posing as professors in our schools of "higher learning". What a bunch of baloney! Parents, wake up. Get your kids out of the public school system and demand that you not be required to pay for public schools. Stop feeding the Pied Piper who is stealing your children!
I wonder what her education background is?, like most, I grew up going to public schools, but the way public schools work, they do not work for everyone, some people with learning disabilities do not do well in public schools as they currently operate.. but that being said, doing away with the current system would not be in the best interest for everyone, especially the poor, over work lower class. but different systems for different locations
Well see the public schools have to accommodate kids with disabilities. If they are failing then you can sue them and force them. that is another issue. Charter and private schools have ZERO obligation to accept special ed kids and no law makes them accommodate. So blind, deaf, autistic and many other kids would be forced to fend for themselves.
I took my daughter out of public school into a charter. She will say because I am displeased with my school system. However, I now see it's the exact same thing. It would be the if the government treated them equally, but we know that will never happen. Can't make money on that.
School choice is killing education in this country? Public education in the USA hasn't had a pulse in years! Our public schools are in horrible shape and we spend a lot of money on them... The USA ranks very low on the world stage and the money we spend is at the top! Detroit spends WELL OVER $10, 000 dollar per student. The Charter schools are NOT selecting students. Parents select alternatives to public schools. We need school choice and parents can choose small private schools, large corporate run schools, or public schools. It's time we fix the mess of public education.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
I'm not a Trump supporter but I have been a School Choice supporter throughout my career as an Education and Training officer in the military while my children were attending school and then after retirement when I began teaching in private and then public schools. Lets be honest. Not all parents favor School Choice for the academics. Many try to avoid schools due specifically for issues of gangs and drugs. In addition, as a former educator with a total 30 years experience I agree that low performing schools are for the most part staffed with low performing teachers. In San Antonio , Texas within the city limits there are seven independent school districts. What a waste of tax payer money.
I don't support DeVos as a choice however I would agree the public education system does need to be reformed. We have two charter schools in our community and both are excellent options.
We have some of the worst public schools. they have only gotten worse over the last few decades. I did put my daughter in a charter school for her 9th grade year. it was so superior to any public schools in our area that it showed me what an embarrassment " government schools" in America are.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
Here's a cold hard truth about public education. The fallacy that the unions make is that charter schools "drain resources" from Public schools. Ok first, charters are public. But this even assumes that the public education funds are somehow OWED to the district schools to begin with. Public education means that public education is fully funded. The $ follows the children, so that's what counts, the brick-and-mortar district schools do not have an inherent right to exist.
Imagine if the government had oversight over all cell phone innovation, we'd still be using the ones that need to be flipped open with a pull-out antenna. Competition matters.
During the election Donald Trump leased his buildings to his campaign - when he was paying during the primary - it was a reasonable price. As soon as he won the primary and the Republican Party was paying the bills - OPM (Other People's Money) - the rates tripled. Trump was making money off his campaign. So it's not surprising that he would appoint people with similar morals.
I know kids who went to charter school in the 88-92 and they weren't failing kids. Some were, but other were very smart. The big thing was they didn't do much work! They didn't take many tests at all.
Education is not for Administration, teachers, or unions. I want more choice of schools. I do not want anymore of my dollars going into failed schools. Separation of Church and State is not in the US Constitution. Jefferson wrote in a letter to address a Baptist Organization to assure Gov. would not make a religion, nor interfere with the Church. Research it.
I'm totally against the bankrupting and privatization of public schools buuut not all charters are the same, can't generalize like that. Sometimes it's the best choice.
Why is forcing someone to travel halfway across a city to attend a private school (even though there is a school within walking distance to their homes) with unlicensed teachers and no better education supposed to be good again? That's the practical result of charter schools.
That's the the result of school vouchers. Children who are rejected by charter schools in their district are forced to attend schools in other districts.
anatole69 Who's forcing who exactly? While we are at it why exactly are you forcefully taking everyone's money and having the government run the schools? Can't we just buy our own schools? If it's about welfare and subsidy then how about you just give them the money and they can buy their own. Why do you want to force them against their will?
You mean how bad school choice is? you do know that charter schools perform alot better than public schools. and most even choose people through lotteries, which doesn't take into account their past capabilities.
I wish we had more time on this. I just came from Michigan, the school system there is atrocious. They don't even pay teachers. My school leaked the entire time I went there. I graduated in 2009, we were using windows 98' most of the time I was in school. Some of our computers were DOS only. We had no heat. After 9/11 we couldn't wear our coats to class. At least 2 people graduated from each class without the ability to read.
I'm going to start a school- Call it Christian but teach values from the book of Mathew- Far Left socialist views- then teach creationism, in a world creation course of myths from all over the world.
If education isn't a business, then why do the unions charge such substantial dues to pay six-figure salaries to their own administration? Those who think that education isn't about money are hypocrites. Finally, DeVos is being decried for donating money to Republican causes. So what? It's called LOBBYING and the NEA and AFT do it all the time. You rake DeVos through the coals for a few million in contributions? In 2015, the AFT and NEA donated a combined FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS to Democrat and other left-wing causes, so get off your fucking high horses already.
whether you agree with her or not, she's obviously qualified. Guess this has nothing to do with the teachers unions. And there is a boatload of people that would disagree with them strongly on the quality of charter schools. And all that talk about religion it's a smokescreen. And Massachusetts didn't overwhelming vote against charter schools. in fact, people were shocked that out was defeated.
Evolved Ape This schools are about profit not teaching. Check out korea. They make score at the top of world wide tests, but everyone graduates with the same skills. Competition is too extreme. Kids wake up school, then night school, study, sleep at 2 or 3 am and back up at 6am for school again. This is horrible.
Example, in your school area within reasonable range you have the options of charter schools only. One to be specific and its the Saudi Arabian school for Islamic teaching, but dont worry. Apart from a "few other things", they follow the curriculum. Or there actually is one other school, but there you have to use your voucher AND pay on top of that because that school. Mormons Special Needs school. View the voucher themselves as only going towards their profit margin and not actually paying for teachers and the running of the school. That doesnt sound too bad... What?!? You are poor and dont even earn a living wage! Fuck off you lazy bum. You should pull yourself up by the bootstraps and teach your own kids. Maybe then they will learn the value of money and get a job that earns more, like me. I run a charter school for profit and make millions! #Satire
@Lobos222 So what you are saying is that your education was garbage, that you don't know how to formulate a sentence properly, and that the sky will fall if people are allowed choice in what school they go to because Jesus somehow?
I like your programs however the guest list to perform at your 20th anniversary party I don't care for any of them. Invite conservatives who like your programming next time if you please.
Focus on the Family actually seems more interested in talking about things like marriage, family, parenting, life challenges (like: coping with loss, disaster, tragedies etc.) than about gay rights. Sure, sometimes they mention "gay conversion therapy", but that isn't their main goal by a long shot. That's unfair representation. It's like saying Hitler wasn't that bad because he built lots of roads and other infrastructure. Which is just a really bad argument.
Schools that protect the educators and the system by their very nature have a conflict of interest in providing for their students. Schools that have to compete for their students not only create more diversity, but by their very nature must put the performance of their students first.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
public schools are utter shit. Growing up in Michigan's Public school system I got to see people being fed through, getting diplomas that they couldn't even read. There are charter schools in my area that were started with funds from Devos and they are known for astronomical grad rates
WOW. What a heap of propaganda. "Backwoods religious fundamentalist schools??!" What in the world? You guys need to get out more. Vouchers consistently produce better results. Choice and competition are American values that consistently lead to quality of products. The same will be true when we hold education to the same level of accountability.
"catalog of horribles"??! Woman, you are talking about PEOPLE. I did not vote for Trump, but people who think and speak like you are why he won. What liberal tripe this is!
Oh get over it; I'm against taxes but this shit doesn't violate the establishment clause Diane Ravitch; the Supreme Court ruled in lemon v Kurtzman that taxes can go private (religious school) in the 1970s; if it has a secular propose. If a private school was on fire, would you prevent the fire department from putting it out because they are paid by tax dollars? The tax dollars that they receive in vouchers doesn't necessary have to go to books.
I understand why parents in bad school district areas want vouchers. Their smart kids can go somewhere where they can do better. That leaves lower test scores for the neighborhood school though.
Stop whining about public schools. School vouchers will lift an incredible amount of people out of poverty. They will have extra money to spend on education, people on the bottom can now send their kids to better schools! The easiest way to escape poverty is getting a good education!
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For how many years, and with how many billions of tax dollars, have we invested in these "educators"? And where is the American student ranked on a global basis?
Follow the money! Doing so will reveal the corruption thriving within the bloated bureaucracy known as Public Education.
My wife has been teaching at the same Public High School for 21 years now and she is just appalled. She sees her career and her retirement going down the tubes as I speak. People need to really wake up. I know that a big majority of Trump supporters are low to middle class, most have kids in public schools and they seem not to care who Trump picks. I have lost faith in a big majority of this Nation.
put your faith in God and not in man
it should be of some comfort that 90% of public school funding is non-federal, and the states have complete legislative authority over schools. The federal government can offer funds and set conditions for these funds to be disbursed, but it cannot actually require state X to do action Y in regards to education.
Gary Higley what does even mean?
She obviously can't do her job because she forced what textbooks to use instead of thinking outside the box and our kids are getting stupider every year.
Her brother is Erik Dean Prince of Blackwater? WTH! This is getting sickly real.
All of Trump's picks so far are like the Doom squad for America
Thanks vgyearone.:) All they need is a Supply of servants to do all the work?! Seems Trumpet Supporters have their hearts Set on those positions?:D
vgyearone
His appointees aren't politicians, but proven successful business people. They deserve a chance, then we will know if America is better off.
Just one more opinion.
Kitty Cobb They are terrible picks and don't deserve a chance but unfortunately they are gonna get one. RIP America
Buck Ofama the council on foreign relations run America. As long as president pick them as advisors and aides we will have the same America. example...Trump apointed Henry Kissinger as an aide.
Bernie sanders talks down on the CFR and I doubt he would have picked anyone from the establishment for his cabinet. It would have still be a fight for a great country but one we could win with bernie.
vgyearone
Hopefully, Trump and his rich, brilliant, and private successful dream team has many bright ideas to make America strong, sovereign, and great again.
Only by God's grace.
I work in the construction industry in Nevada, some of my company's future projects are charter schools....I cringe every time they get brought up in our sales meetings. I look around the table and I can see that my co-workers have no idea what they are and how they will affect our community. It's funny to hear this report on how much they profit on these schools when in the building plans, they keep pushing them back for cuts in price, meaning cuts in quality product.
well, considering their funding is still very low compared to the public option, they need to either adapt or they won't be able to provide service, also their profit is capped by the state government. I think you forgot to mention that.
Fragmenting and decentralization of the publics education should lead to more fragmentation. Divide and conquer concept will only be understood by the truly knowledgeable and solidarity will not be celebrated but will be persecuted as adverse, group think anomaly, to be shunned. Or Berniecrats stand up and fight.
the whole system of our government is based upon fragmentation of government power. hence why we separate our judicial, legislative, and executive branches, hence why we have two different adversarial levels of government, state and federal, hence why our founding fathers wrote in the bill of rights and the constitution.
or maybe you just forgot all of that.
public unions has centralized so much power that they can hold hostage an entire state if their whims aren't met. Time we bring accountability and sanity back to our education system.
Bernie is enjoying his new lakeside vacation home. you were duped
I don't understand why conservatives oppose people spending their hard-earned money on whatever they want. What exactly is wrong with Bernie buying a home?
On the other hand liberals are constantly equating charters with for-profit corporations. That is valid in some situations, but there are also many states where charters are 100% public in every way. What is wrong with a little research on a subject before comment?
What is wrong with sending students with consistent low scores and students with behavioral problems to separate schools? In my city voucher schools have been great for students living in the inner city that actually care about their education. There is *so* much less violence and drugs at the voucher schools versus the surrounding public schools that have numerous students with no desire to learn.
I can't even imagine how many students have just given up or had ruined dreams because of the bullshit that goes on in public schools.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
*Ignoring TH-cam comments, reduces stress.*
On a lighter note, what's your favorite Lynch film?
Ignoring the cabinet picks also reduces stress?
plug your ears and close your eyes.. cross your fingers,
tap your shoes together..its all going to go away..
the Swamp is going to drain lol..
Trump is going to change America for the better.
Hillary would have done the same..they all work for the people..
they do not have masters lol..
ho hum...people are too weak, no wonder the world is going to shit
Razorhead. Eraserhead. I can only say I've been to an Amway convention in St. George , Utah on the way to
Acapulco, Mexico . Multi-level marketing available soon at your local taqueria .
Kicking trump and his bitches out of Washington. Restore peace.
yeh for sure....start the flow of millions to the middle east again and free all the criminals right? or all the lefties piss off to canada or mexico...hahaha,oops just remembered thats all talk
I'll take the voucher, pay myself as a home schooler and park the kid in front of the TV. They have no future anyway. Why should I suffer?
Chester Finecat Wow. You have no idea how this works and you are a terrible person. Congratulations.
maybe our schools will actually improve now, instead of constantly throwing money at it, there would be actual policy changes.
I want to choose where my kids go to school, NOT government. I like her ideas. If you want me to keep my kids in the public school, then step it up!
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
President of Amway University...............with husband tried to buy governorship for $50 Million and failed
now in a position to recoup losses and more. Will be lunching with Sarah Palin on capitol hill. Good Luck America
Now that Trump is in you're concerned about this process that has been going on for decades and decades? Where ya' been? Maybe you're just too young or like the rest of the nation who feel threatened in some way now that the Dems are on the run.
Giving all families opportunities to send their kids to private or charter schools in areas where public schools are subpar is a bad thing?!?
Give me a break.
I've seen this video and your response. That's the depth of my understanding on this. If you have the time, please elaborate.
So how did the Public school sys become inadequate.........couldn't have been underfunding or political interference or anything like that could it? Destruction of decent Public Education for last 35 years has now produced Trump,
hope you're happy, if you can afford education, good for you. Check out what Jeb Bush is up to these days.
This is not about the kids. This is about making money. How can people not see this?
Shanandcrew A when there's a record of those charter and private schools testing worse than the public schools?
p.s. There are a lot of strong opinions that surfaced on this thread as I wrote my reply. I'm only interested in your response. It's not surprising that you're being shouted down by the left wing opposition. I can hear & understand their arguments. I want to hear yours though.
We've been at war with the DeVos' attempts to privatize just about everything in Michigan for a long time. If you want to see just how bad of an idea her "Charter Schools" are, just look at how they are underperforming here. On average, they are well below the public schools, but those profits keep rolling in to her corporate friends. Also, don't forget her brother is Erik Prince, the founder of the disgraced mercenary group Blackwater - who engaged in war crimes in Iraq and blamed it on the US Army. I can assure you she's looking to build favor with her new boss, the groper-and-chief, President "chode-fingers," for her brother as well.
How come urban schools score so low. It doesn't give low income ppl a chance to give them a better education. I blame teachers union for keeping teachers jobs that don't show improvement.
Looks like I will be home schooling my children.....I think a lot of people might take this route too. It is a sad time for America this basket of deplorables that are going to be running everything for at least 4 years are going to tear everything apart. What will be left after they are done.....not much :( not much at all :( :(
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
I can think of a lot of ways to improve public education in this country. Turning it into a profit making entity is probably last on that list.
teacher union is a profit making entity, taking money and giving crap results.
what is needed is competition.
***** does a doctor need to have cancer to treat cancer patient? liberals are not smart.
I think the appropriate question would be: Does a teacher need to perform medicine to treat a cancer patient? In your analogy a teacher would need to be a children to taught children.
Your public school education hasn't giving you very much common sense huh. For profit means businesses compete to give the best education to their consumers. Oh and crap teachers can get fired. I guess you prefer government services over private lol. Not me I prefer UPS over the US post office. The market caters to the consumer the government over charges for less quality and is high inefficient.
dark poetry Do you understand the difference between true capitalism and crony capitalism? There is a difference.
This keeps getting better and better doesn't it...
no. liberals getting worse.
oh boy can't wait to see our country in 3 years :P
Tacky Vanilla
we have survived Obama and his group, so we shall see.
Kitty Cobb I am no Obama fan, but I'm curious about what you "survived"?
Brock Lindseth could be notorious unaffordable obama care.
if Republicans really like "the under-educated", and why not? since they are more manipulable, charters and vouchers will INSURE the perpetuation, and increase, of what is already a sadly under-educated U.S.population. School Marm
The statement regarding application of kids with disabilities to charter schools is wrong. As public schools, charter schools are required to enroll and serve students with disabilities in the same manner as traditional public schools and in compliance with all applicable state and federal laws. In fact, because charter schools have more flexibility than traditional public schools, they are designed to offer innovative educational strategies and provide individualized support to meet the needs of all students, including those with disabilities and other unique challenges. In order to support students with special needs, charter schools will often tailor their educational program or create specialized programs.
source: www.ccsa.org/understanding/faqs/
Worst decision to confirm this women! Seriously. How blind can you be!? What have you done...
If democracy now hates Devos she's prolly alright.
Go Betsy DeVos !!!!
i went to 4 different charter schools as a kid. all 4 were a joke. one got shut down for milking taxpayers - getting funds for disabled students that didnt exist.
Trump's cabinet is sounding more and more like the "dark side".
Our Public School's are a huge failure overall. I was PTA President when my son was attending a public school. Totally support Charter School, private school, Montessori School, Waldorf School, and yes Catholic Schools.
Sure. If most of them can keep their religious and anti-science agendas out of teaching, then it'll be great.
C'mon, Democracy Now! Privatization of schools doesn't have to be all bad... I've experienced both public and private education. Stop selling out to Big Ed.
Lets go Betsy!! Its about time the unaccountable teachers union get reprimanded for failing:) Drain the Swamp!
Lol, they mention chile and Sweden but forgot to mention uk which had like huge majority of schools turned into academies , which are very much like charter schools and they have been awful
Trickle Down Vouchers for Education..? Good Luck with that..!!!
the present system of public education is on course to utterly collapse... they need to allow parents a voucher system where they may choose the type of school they want their kids to attend
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
this is all so deplorable! My kids went to charter it was horrible! Kids got behind and never recovered! After two years come to find out teachers were not even certified!
Get rid of Teacher's Unions!!!That's what's destroying public schools.
This woman should NOT be allowed to purchase a position with our government so that she can destroy rather than support further our public school system.
I know a lot of arguments in here are anti-charter school but I actually went to one and it was the best school experience I ever had. It felt more like a community than a school and even though we didn't have a lot of resources, we still had programs and clubs and the teachers were very committed to their jobs. I was able to go through material as fast as I wanted and use my extra time to explore my own interests and, later in high school, work full-time. I could have gone to a private school or muddled through the rest of public school, both of which would have been much better funded and larger and both of which I tried, but I wouldn't have had the opportunities I've had without the charter school I went to.
One additional note I want to make is on the idea that charter schools "cherry pick the best" and that was 0% the case. We had kids like myself who needed a different option to kids with special needs (we actually had a lot of deaf students because a lot of the teachers knew sign language) to kids who were insanely smart and dedicated students and even the rejects who were expelled from other schools. We weren't picked for some special reason, there was a wait list and when someone left the school or they afforded a new teacher, new students were allowed in. If we set the proper requirements on what can be a charter school, we might actually see less poor results from charters and see more results like myself (not miserable and pleased with their education).
Im not
a teacher, Im a youth coach (volunteer). They are taking money FROM PUBLIC
SCHOOLS to fund charter schools. If you have 2 buckets, one full and an
one empty. Then you take water from the one that's full to fill the other
bucket. Then people are amazed that you no longer have a full bucket, you
have 2 half empty buckets. The charter school bucket has a valve in the
bottom, and that valve can be opened at anytime for any reason with no
accountability, no oversite and no regulation. And the person with
their hand on the valve is a water hoarder on steroids. (billionaires) My
best analogy
😂😂😂😂😂. Welcome to your privatized world middle class voter. Your upset about being broke and now you'll have privatized schools, medicare, and medical insurance. Think your broke now 😂😂😂. A private run, for profit school will always need more money.
I do realize I'm screwed as well for 2 years 😡
I wonder who thinks this appointment is a good idea, and why? just trying to see the other side of the conversation here
If you could stomach it, I'd recommend checking out right-leaning news sources. I lean to the right (I refuse to put a political label on myself), but I check out left-leaning news sources to try to see the bigger picture. I wish there were a news site that combined both types of coverage, but media bias is pervasive.
I dont think theres wrong with having a bias, we all have one, its natural. But just let your audience know what your bias is, make it clear. And then tell the news as it is.
There are a few pro charter school documentaries out there and watching one of them would make you see why some people fall for it. Because they basically in a very friendly mannered voice and such. Portray public schools like shit and charter schools like heaven. So to a parent that doesnt think too far or similar. Charter school can look like the obvious school, *IF* you care about your kids of course. Which they will most likely mention in some way that the best schools in X, Y, Z area has been a charter school the past X years and we just happens to have one parent here that first had her kid at a public school for one year, which was bad and here she is saying that, but on year two went for a charter school instead and now everything is just like a commercial.
The short response is this. Charter schools is only easy to see as negative if you have a macro view of education. However most parents do not see further than what they THINK is best for their kid.
She is not the person for the job. Putting aside her charter school bias, she just doesn't know the answers to important questions.
So you are right leaning person who doesn't put a label on themselves. There are many channels out there that try an stay neutral and do cover both side, eg BBC.
I'm calling out a thief as a thief and naming them. Pennsbury Schools. Bucks County, PA.. Teachers being paid close to or over $100,000.00 per year plus benefits. Retirement packages that can and will run 2-3 million U.S. Dollars! Fire all of them and give them Free Market Freedom like the people that are forced to pay their wages!!!
Teachers in many districts are required to have a Master's Degree so they should be well paid. If you want to attract the best and brightest to careers in education you have to pay them. A free market cannot attract and retain quality educators without adequate compensation.
Everybody's talking about her destroying public schools LOL!! Public education is already destroying itself! She couldn't push it faster over the cliff! Scrap it and rebuild. We have NOTHING to lose.
Talk about milking the COW 🐄💰 MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO💰
I can see the future that she is literally going to destroy the public education system.
You mean how children performance has been stagnating for 4 decades even when funding has increased 500% from 40 years ago?
kwazooplayingguardsman Evidence?
A danger to public schools.
Notebooks vs. Books
As if you cut the segment at the exact point where the speaker was sharing the results of the private school experiment in Chili and Sweden.
Logan Waltz yes you caught my autocorrect.
WA state public votes in favor of Charter Schools. I've helped form [nonprofit] charter schools.
At 5:10, Diane Ravitch, former Assistant Secretary of Education under G.H.W. Bush, said that most vouchers are used for religious schools and do not provide enough money to pay for an "elite school", so most of them are used for, "like in the south, it's *backwards, fundamentalist church schools* that have uncertified staff."
Haaah-ha-haaaah!!! So the public schools have certified staff and they turn out the embeciles we see in society, who often cannot even read their own diploma and are so dumbed down they vote for public officials because they are black, or because they are a woman or because they are gay, or because they used to be an actor, or any other trait that has nothing to do with the qualifications necessary to protect our rights and do their constitutional duties?
Pfft! I'll take "bacward" and "uncertified" any day over forward and certified by the nut jobs posing as professors in our schools of "higher learning". What a bunch of baloney!
Parents, wake up. Get your kids out of the public school system and demand that you not be required to pay for public schools.
Stop feeding the Pied Piper who is stealing your children!
Yes, turn them over to you idiots for brainwashed indoctrination. No thanks! We don't need to become the xtian equivalence of Saudi Arabia.
I wonder what her education background is?, like most, I grew up going to public schools, but the way public schools work, they do not work for everyone, some people with learning disabilities do not do well in public schools as they currently operate.. but that being said, doing away with the current system would not be in the best interest for everyone, especially the poor, over work lower class. but different systems for different locations
Well see the public schools have to accommodate kids with disabilities. If they are failing then you can sue them and force them. that is another issue. Charter and private schools have ZERO obligation to accept special ed kids and no law makes them accommodate. So blind, deaf, autistic and many other kids would be forced to fend for themselves.
How about the fact that public education is failing? How about the good schools that are helping failing children? Too many lies by omission.
we are a parody of ourselves at this point
We're only laughing at you libeals. I don't understand the apprehension against school choice.
Kw That's the problem. There are so many things you don't understand.
You can't destroy something that is already destroyed
I took my daughter out of public school into a charter. She will say because I am displeased with my school system. However, I now see it's the exact same thing. It would be the if the government treated them equally, but we know that will never happen. Can't make money on that.
As a parent. I don't like these unions people who failed our children for so long.
School choice is killing education in this country? Public education in the USA hasn't had a pulse in years!
Our public schools are in horrible shape and we spend a lot of money on them... The USA ranks very low on the world stage and the money we spend is at the top!
Detroit spends WELL OVER $10, 000 dollar per student.
The Charter schools are NOT selecting students. Parents select alternatives to public schools.
We need school choice and parents can choose small private schools, large corporate run schools, or public schools.
It's time we fix the mess of public education.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
I'm not a Trump supporter but I have been a School Choice supporter throughout my career as an Education and Training officer in the military while my children were attending school and then after retirement when I began teaching in private and then public schools. Lets be honest. Not all parents favor School Choice for the academics. Many try to avoid schools due specifically for issues of gangs and drugs. In addition, as a former educator with a total 30 years experience I agree that low performing schools are for the most part staffed with low performing teachers. In San Antonio , Texas within the city limits there are seven independent school districts. What a waste of tax payer money.
I don't support DeVos as a choice however I would agree the public education system does need to be reformed. We have two charter schools in our community and both are excellent options.
We have some of the worst public schools. they have only gotten worse over the last few decades.
I did put my daughter in a charter school for her 9th grade year.
it was so superior to any public schools in our area that it showed me what an embarrassment " government schools" in America are.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
You can't make America great again with clowns like DeVos.
Constitutional Republic Now. MAGA.
DeVos is amazing and arguing against charter schools is like having the only beer be Budweiser but everyone voting on how to fix the flavor...
Here's a cold hard truth about public education. The fallacy that the unions make is that charter schools "drain resources" from Public schools. Ok first, charters are public. But this even assumes that the public education funds are somehow OWED to the district schools to begin with. Public education means that public education is fully funded. The $ follows the children, so that's what counts, the brick-and-mortar district schools do not have an inherent right to exist.
Imagine if the government had oversight over all cell phone innovation, we'd still be using the ones that need to be flipped open with a pull-out antenna. Competition matters.
wow, nice to hear those ladies.
Detroit should not be speaking here- Detroit has the worse ranking in math and reading among big city districts.
During the election Donald Trump leased his buildings to his campaign - when he was paying during the primary - it was a reasonable price. As soon as he won the primary and the Republican Party was paying the bills - OPM (Other People's Money) - the rates tripled. Trump was making money off his campaign. So it's not surprising that he would appoint people with similar morals.
Scam artists and leeches.
I know kids who went to charter school in the 88-92 and they weren't failing kids. Some were, but other were very smart. The big thing was they didn't do much work! They didn't take many tests at all.
Education is not for Administration, teachers, or unions.
I want more choice of schools. I do not want anymore of my dollars going into failed schools.
Separation of Church and State is not in the US Constitution.
Jefferson wrote in a letter to address a Baptist Organization to assure Gov. would not make a religion, nor interfere with the Church.
Research it.
I'm totally against the bankrupting and privatization of public schools buuut not all charters are the same, can't generalize like that. Sometimes it's the best choice.
Why is forcing someone to go to an assigned school based on their neighborhood supposed to be good again?
Why is forcing someone to travel halfway across a city to attend a private school (even though there is a school within walking distance to their homes) with unlicensed teachers and no better education supposed to be good again? That's the practical result of charter schools.
anatole69 Who is trying to do that?
Besides the advocates of busing "integration" programs of course
That's the the result of school vouchers. Children who are rejected by charter schools in their district are forced to attend schools in other districts.
lol another person talking out their ass, must be that good public schooling you got.
anatole69
Who's forcing who exactly?
While we are at it why exactly are you forcefully taking everyone's money and having the government run the schools? Can't we just buy our own schools?
If it's about welfare and subsidy then how about you just give them the money and they can buy their own. Why do you want to force them against their will?
Good, the public school system sucks and the kids are paying the price. Competition is GOOD for education.
Has anyone ever asked DeVos what her definitions of competition and choice are?
In a year you'll be thanking us for voting Trump and wishing you voted Trump as well.
Trumps policies may cause a backfire of pushback towards more social programs......Thanks to TRUMPism!
LISA GRAVES public education sector folks, theyre intense
Criminal.
5:25 Why would somebody send their child to a backwoods fundamentalist school over their local public school?
It's "end quote," not "unquote." Good coverage!
This is what real news is! Great news reporting on Democracy Now!! No more false news from Info Wars!
You mean how bad school choice is? you do know that charter schools perform alot better than public schools. and most even choose people through lotteries, which doesn't take into account their past capabilities.
I wish we had more time on this. I just came from Michigan, the school system there is atrocious. They don't even pay teachers. My school leaked the entire time I went there. I graduated in 2009, we were using windows 98' most of the time I was in school. Some of our computers were DOS only. We had no heat. After 9/11 we couldn't wear our coats to class. At least 2 people graduated from each class without the ability to read.
SHAME ON YOU BETSY DEVOS!!!
I'm going to start a school- Call it Christian but teach values from the book of Mathew- Far Left socialist views- then teach creationism, in a world creation course of myths from all over the world.
If education isn't a business, then why do the unions charge such substantial dues to pay six-figure salaries to their own administration? Those who think that education isn't about money are hypocrites.
Finally, DeVos is being decried for donating money to Republican causes. So what? It's called LOBBYING and the NEA and AFT do it all the time. You rake DeVos through the coals for a few million in contributions? In 2015, the AFT and NEA donated a combined FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS to Democrat and other left-wing causes, so get off your fucking high horses already.
Diane Ravitch: The Noam Chomsky of Education
whether you agree with her or not, she's obviously qualified. Guess this has nothing to do with the teachers unions. And there is a boatload of people that would disagree with them strongly on the quality of charter schools. And all that talk about religion it's a smokescreen. And Massachusetts didn't overwhelming vote against charter schools. in fact, people were shocked that out was defeated.
So can anyone explain to me how everyone won't get an education if vouchers are adopted?
Do you have a real question?
Michael Dziengel So do you have an answer?
Evolved Ape This schools are about profit not teaching. Check out korea. They make score at the top of world wide tests, but everyone graduates with the same skills. Competition is too extreme. Kids wake up school, then night school, study, sleep at 2 or 3 am and back up at 6am for school again. This is horrible.
Example, in your school area within reasonable range you have the options of charter schools only. One to be specific and its the Saudi Arabian school for Islamic teaching, but dont worry. Apart from a "few other things", they follow the curriculum. Or there actually is one other school, but there you have to use your voucher AND pay on top of that because that school. Mormons Special Needs school. View the voucher themselves as only going towards their profit margin and not actually paying for teachers and the running of the school. That doesnt sound too bad... What?!? You are poor and dont even earn a living wage! Fuck off you lazy bum. You should pull yourself up by the bootstraps and teach your own kids. Maybe then they will learn the value of money and get a job that earns more, like me. I run a charter school for profit and make millions! #Satire
@Lobos222 So what you are saying is that your education was garbage, that you don't know how to formulate a sentence properly, and that the sky will fall if people are allowed choice in what school they go to because Jesus somehow?
I like your programs however the guest list to perform at your 20th anniversary party I don't care for any of them. Invite conservatives who like your programming next time if you please.
Nobody likes De Vos
Big mistake President Trump.
Focus on the Family actually seems more interested in talking about things like marriage, family, parenting, life challenges (like: coping with loss, disaster, tragedies etc.) than about gay rights. Sure, sometimes they mention "gay conversion therapy", but that isn't their main goal by a long shot. That's unfair representation. It's like saying Hitler wasn't that bad because he built lots of roads and other infrastructure. Which is just a really bad argument.
poor kids can have private school too if the governments spend it for them
Schools that protect the educators and the system by their very nature have a conflict of interest in providing for their students. Schools that have to compete for their students not only create more diversity, but by their very nature must put the performance of their students first.
Ban: mandatory school, gov control over education and curriculum, hsd and ged requirements, public school, directly tax funding schools. Let kids learn job skills and work instead
Jesus, talking about depressing news... That sibling is true evil to mankind.
There is an insane amount of [citation needed] kind of situations.
public schools are utter shit. Growing up in Michigan's Public school system I got to see people being fed through, getting diplomas that they couldn't even read. There are charter schools in my area that were started with funds from Devos and they are known for astronomical grad rates
WOW. What a heap of propaganda. "Backwoods religious fundamentalist schools??!" What in the world? You guys need to get out more. Vouchers consistently produce better results.
Choice and competition are American values that consistently lead to quality of products. The same will be true when we hold education to the same level of accountability.
"catalog of horribles"??! Woman, you are talking about PEOPLE. I did not vote for Trump, but people who think and speak like you are why he won. What liberal tripe this is!
Oh get over it; I'm against taxes but this shit doesn't violate the establishment clause Diane Ravitch; the Supreme Court ruled in lemon v Kurtzman that taxes can go private (religious school) in the 1970s; if it has a secular propose. If a private school was on fire, would you prevent the fire department from putting it out because they are paid by tax dollars? The tax dollars that they receive in vouchers doesn't necessary have to go to books.
I understand why parents in bad school district areas want vouchers. Their smart kids can go somewhere where they can do better. That leaves lower test scores for the neighborhood school though.
when I take a dookie,I get up on my tipple toes.
The dumbing down of America continues
Stop whining about public schools. School vouchers will lift an incredible amount of people out of poverty. They will have extra money to spend on education, people on the bottom can now send their kids to better schools! The easiest way to escape poverty is getting a good education!
please note the name of this channel is Democracy Now! just saying. I absolite do not like chosing a side but understand some bias stuff...
Thank you Democracy now. I needed this information. Well presented all. Great panel.