Don't Be Duped! Learn How To Spot A Real Vs. A Fake 90x90 cm Hermès Silk Twill Scarf Tutorial
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Don’t be duped! Learn how to spot the differences between a real and fake Hermès 90x90 cm silk twill scarf. Especially when you're shopping online for pre-loved, pre-owned Hermès scarves, this is very much a buyer beware situation and up to you to do your due diligence. Watch this video for top tips from an experienced Hermès scarf collector.
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This is a great video, particularly the tip about weight. However, I think very old scarfs can lose some of their weight, I have a 1963 Ludovicus Magnus Louis XIV that I have every reason to believe is authentic. It has been well used over the years and is my most used scarf. It weighs 63 or 64 g (cannot remember which, weighed it a while back). Do you have any very old and very worn scarves that you have found to be a tiny bit under?
Great point, Kathie. Silk is a natural fiber and yes, subject to aging. Depending on how well cared for and used, silk can deteriorate over time. Thanks for your comments!
Very useful video. I will only buy online from Hermes or in their store. Been duped once when bought a Dior bag on Ebay and won't let that happen again:)
Thank you so much, dear. I don’t blame you about buying direct; that is a sure way to guarantee authenticity. 🤗
@@cranleyplace yes definitely. Its not worth the stress of worrying if its fake or real :)
My wife just picked up a Hermes scarf from our local thrift store for $4 today, thinking even if it’s counterfeit the design was beautiful enough that it was worth it. After watching this and a handful of other videos (perfect hem, still has both tags on it and they look identical to the same scarf we saw online, colorway is correct, weighs 72grams) we’re confident she has an authentic scarf that’s worth $450-600 on eBay right now. We aren’t planning on reselling it ❤
Ooh, what a lucky find, Luke! Thanks for sharing your story 🧡
I'm new to your channel, and new to Hermes scarf purchases. I've always coveted an Hermes scarf, but I never thought I would get much use from them, living in a warm climate. Considering their beauty, I decided to start with Twilly's (or Twillies) for my handbag handles. I'm in love. You have been a great source of information, teaching me about the artists behind the designs. Based on your recommendation, and seeing as I am going on a trip abroad in the near future, I plan to visit the Hermes airport boutique within each international terminal I enter. From you, I also learned of the many ways to incorporate twilly's and scarves into my wardrobe, even in warmer climates. Thank you.
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and welcome to the channel! 🧡
One of the best tips I've seen about the Care Tags is that the only names for silk used are 'Soie" and "Silk". Many fakes will also include the word Seta, which is silk in Italian.
Very true, thanks for the reminder!
Not so. I bought my scarf from Hermes and one one side it has the word 'sole' and on the other it has 'seta'.
@@berryboo247 this changed in 2018 to make the tags multi-lingual, prior to that the rule I mentioned applies.
Excellent tutorial! I wish I had viewed this before finding bargain scarves on eBay. One I found had the rolling toward the dull side, no care tags, it lacked the artwork’s name & artist’s name, and lastly, it lacked the Hermes copyright emblem. Oh well, it was an education.
Way to find the silver lining 🤩 glad you found it useful!
Excellent video Maya! I own two vintage Hermès scarves bought second hand and I made a lot of research before I purchased them. I find it easy to see the difference in the quality vs my other silk scarves from Gucci, Ferragamo or Dior, although the Dior is closer to the Hermès in its weight. I never thought of asking about the weight so I will definitely ask if I purchase a Hermès scarf second hand again in the future. Thank you!
Aww, thank you! It’s nice to be able to shop the preowned market with confidence; there are a lot of gems out there if you do your due diligence!
I just found your channel. Thank you for the information. I found a Hermes scarf at an estate sale and I'm still not sure if it's authentic, but it is pretty. It's a Lion Medallion. It looks and feels real but I am no means an expert. You gave me some great tips. Thanks again!
Thank you for your comments, Yvonne. It’s always fun to find scarf treasures at estate sales and the like; enjoy!
Thanks for sharing this info. Very useful!
My pleasure, Kelly, happy you found it helpful. Happy hunting!
Very informative, thank you !
Glad you found it useful, Liz, I appreciate your feedback!
This is a very useful video!!! Thank you so much
Glad you think so, thanks for your comments, Susana!
Thanks about the Tips in special about the weight. 🤔😮
My pleasure, dear, thanks for your comments! 🧡
you have such a LOVELY voice
Thanks, I appreciate your feedback!
Hi Maya. This question always puzzled me. I thought maybe you have the answer. I learned that Hermès would never misspell on their paper tag with bar code. And that bar code tags are another source of looking out for fakes. However, I noticed that every Mountain Zebra scarf listing show the word Mountain as "moutain", without the n. I always wanted to verify this. Do you happen to know more about this and why, if genuine, Hermès spelled it without the n in mountain. As always, thank you for all your Hermès knowledge.
Thanks for the question, Lily, that’s a great observation and tip. I actually went back to see if I still have the retail tag for my Mountain Zebra (I don’t), but the ones I still do have, all the scarf names are all spelled correctly. Let’s put it to the scarf community to see if anybody still has their original retail tag.
@gadgetlily at least three other H collectors with this scarf confirmed the misspelling on the Mountain Zebra tag 🏷 all bought directly from H. But who knows, there could be more examples. Thanks again for the question 😉
@@cranleyplace Thank you for your investigation and data gathering. I think it is good news for many shopping on the secondary market that a misspelled Hermès Mountain Zebra tag, if purchased from a reputable seller, does not necessarily mean it is questionable. Thank you also to your wonderful Hermès community. 🧣I am glad to put this puzzle to rest. 🤗
Thank you very much for this video. You've saved me from purchasing a decent counterfeit... the rolls were good, the weight was good, but the paint was not.
Thanks for sharing your experience! Can’t be too careful when shopping these preowned!
Such an excellent video, I learned so much. Thanks a lot!
How about the wash scarves? Do they also weigh the same? My only scarves are the wash ones so I don't know how they compare to the normal silk scarves.
Thank you, that’s a great question. I don’t own any wash scarves, but have to assume that they start out the same weight, at least for the 90x90s. From what I understand, the wash treatment softens both the silk and colors. I’d recommend weighing a few of your wash scarves for reference. My guess is that they’re all at least 65g. Let me know what you find out!
I have three 140 cm wash scarves and the silk feels lighter than the regular silk of my 90 cm ones, but I don't know if the weight is actually different or not!
Thanks for the comment, Sara. The silk would definitely feel different just based on that wash treatment, but I doubt that they’re lighter, unless they’re mousseline. My 140 summer weight scarves are all at least 165g. If you have access to a postal scale, I’d recommend weighing them for reference. Let me know what you find out!
Great info dear! TFS!
Thanks, Lokie, so glad you found it helpful! 🤩
Hi Maya. Thank you for a very useful video. Where do you get the catalogues with the overviews of all the different scarves? And do these catalogues feature all the formats, or just 90x90 cm? Thank you!
Hi Mathias, H used to give these away seasonally to showcase scarves usually from the women’s collections with a scarf purchase or if you were on their mailing lists, but I haven’t seen a new one in years. These days you have to look for them in secondary markets. Thanks for the question!
I have seen older scarves at auctionhouses that are 86x86 cm. The actionhouses are welrenommed ones so it should not been fakes. Was the 86x86 cm more common before?
Not that I’m aware of, no, unless they weren’t measured accurately.
Hi Maya! Love you videos! I have been binge watching them over the holiday season! Is there a threshold weight I should use as rule of thumb for 70x70cm and 45x45cm scarves from Hermes? Thank you so much ❤
Thank you, Jenny! It’s a good question! For better or worse, 90s are the bulk of my collection, so I don’t have enough data on the other sizes to give a high confidence average weight. Maybe someone from the community can chime in. Thanks for your comments. 🧡
@@cranleyplace thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly! I got a brand new 70x70 scarf with tags and all the accessories at a really good price, and all looks great except the QR code is coming up blank on the Google search, so I wanted to use the weight as a final way to check. Maybe someone from the community will chime in. Thanks a bunch!
You bet, thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi Maya - Ugh, I think I was duped. I bought one on Poshmark and it's much more transparent than I anticipated. Also, the hand rolled edges are very small stitching that's just too perfect. The weight is, well, let's just say it reminds me of the scarves my grandma used to wear, very thin and light. The design is one Hermes produced and has both the artist's name and Hermes logo matching the placement of ones found online, but I still think it's fake.
Hi Rebecca, thanks for sharing your experience. Is it a mousseline? The chiffon scarves are much lighter than the silk twills and cashmeres.
Summer silks are also lighter. But if it is transparent, it is probably a mousse.
@@kathiegoldsmith1457 True, I didn't realize Hermes had made them...clearly I'm new to this 😅
Hi Maya, Where can I get the little scarf booklets you are showing in the beginning of the video, please?
Those ones are vintage, Madlen, but you might be able to find some on eBay. People tend to collect them 🤭 Thanks for your question!
Just the video I needed!! I appreciate the valuable information you enlighten us with. Do you think Hermès would be willing to authenticate a scarf if I believe I’ve been duped when purchasing from a consignment shop?
Good question, I’ve never asked. Have you weighed the scarf? That’s the quickest way to tell.🔍
@@cranleyplace Yes I did; it didn’t even come close to 165g for a 140cm silk shawl. I immediately noticed how much lighter it was than one I already own; that alone was gnawing at me. As I scoured websites, including the one I purchased from, along with TH-cam for scarf weight, yours is the only video that mentions scarf weight & confirmed my suspicions!! Although the return window has closed, I will raise my concern with the merchant & contact BBB if all else fails. It’s unfortunate that this particular high end consignment shop claims to authenticate items with a fine-tooth comb, yet missed this very important detail.
Unless it’s a mousseline, a silk twill 140 should weigh at least 165g as you’ve noted. Cashmere is even heavier at 185g for a 140. Hopefully your credit card issuer can help. Good luck!
@@cranleyplace Agreed!! Thanks!! All The Best To You!!
Likewise, Vida! Thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank You!
You're welcome!
Hi Maya - It's possible, but the label reads 'Made in France - Soie 100% Silk. The design is Flora Graeca by Niki Goulandris. IThe color is white with red. Do you know the one I'm talking about?
Hi Rebecca, I do know the design and it was issued as a mousseline, which is a much lighter material - chiffon - than silk twill. But if you’re still doubting, if it were me, I’d return it. Thanks again for sharing.
@@cranleyplace Thank you Maya - you've helped me immensely. Have a wonderful holiday!
My pleasure, you too, Rebecca!
Hi there. Can I ask where to get an accurate value of a Hermes 90cm scarf?
I don’t know about accurate, but for preloved, like anything, it’s what the market will bear. You have to do your research. Thanks for the question 🙋
Great information! Do you wash any of your scarves?
Thanks, Jill! I do actually hand wash my scarves, except for the plissés.
I have a super fake and it passes all these checks except for the hem stitching. Too messy to be genuine!
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Are you able to see if there's a way to spot fake scarf rings?
That’s a good question! Maybe someone from the community can chime in. 🧡
I have an easy solution, buy new at HERMES store, I never take a chance
Quite true, Gigi! Shopping preloved is more relevant when you’re looking for something from a past season. Never any guarantees that H will reissue.
@@cranleyplace so true!
TIP: Please speak up in your videos.
Gotcha, cheers!
Very useful! Thank you 😊
So glad you found it helpful; thanks for your feedback!
Thanks for your video. I just got a pre-loved one. I hope it is authentic. Would you happen to know what is the weight for the 140x140 scarf? Thanks 😊
@@karenksin thanks for your comments, Karen. Silk twill or cashmere 140?
@@cranleyplace it is 140 silk. Thanks 😊
@@karenksin gotcha, that should be at least 165g or 5.8 oz.
Am learning a lot. Awesome video. Ty ☺️
So glad to hear it, thanks for your feedback, dear!