Amazing games! Especially liked the one against Rakdos Sacrifice. Love all the calculations, complications, mindgames. That is what I love about magic!
Random *Odd* Lore: Obosh apparently has 347 legs. "Obosh the Preypiercer is a legendary hellion horror from the plane of Ikoria.[1] When the planeswalker Vivien Reid encountered the monstrous Obosh, her irrational first instinct was to count how many legs it had. However, she later realized it would be better to do so while keeping a safe distance from the monster. At some point, Vivien managed to count how many legs Obosh has: the answer is 347.
"Playing for ante" comment made my day. I still remember the pain of opening up packs back in 94-95 and getting ante cards in the rare slot. (Looking at you Amulet of Quoz and Demonic Attorney!)
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I love this deck, so fun to play! It has won me several games against flash variants. I only have 2 Ayaras so I threw in 2 Lurrus, and he works quite well in the deck too.
Definitely a solid addition. It didn't seem super needed with Gutterbones already coming back and Whisper Squad getting more copies, but recurring Scorpion is more exciting.
LegenVD Isn’t there a better alternative than the Gutterbones? I get that it keeps coming back. But it’s pretty slow IMO. Especially if you add Lurrus to the deck, wouldn’t a creature with haste be better. Like the hound with lifelink?
That Sac Battle was awesome! Still curious how the Priest Activation in response would have turned out. Anyways, nice gameplay and commentary as always. Love the content, keep it up :)
Against sakdos deck they would have had another turn if they used priest in response to the scorpion trigger. If they use priest they sac 2 creatures (probably lurus and reveler, since obosh would be dying before combat damage so they wouldn't get lifelink off of lurus and would want to keep mayhem pings) and you sac 1, they also sac food and gain three up to 6. They use all those sac pings on obosh and kill him. They then lose two life from the scorpion trigger, then go to combat damage and knight gets in for 2 bringing them down to 2. At this point they have priest and devil on the field, as well as 3 more food (only two of which they can afford to sac if they don't top deck land). Meanwhile you would have a knight, work strider, and goat token as well as a much more comfortable life total. It would have been interesting to see where that match went but I think you still had it
I play a Rakdos version with Weaponize the Monsters, Judith, Mayhem Devils. Really funny to sacrifice one Scorpion to deal like 10 damages to the face.
Funny how when I go to see your videos, I recognize the deck I just played against. Easy win, BTW. Opp conceded as soon as I dropped the Deafening Clarion.
MTG did it before : "The first card that cared [about even/odd] showed up in Ice Age all the way back in 1994". MTGA doesn't "introduce" new elements, MTG does it. magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/ikoria-beholder-part-1-2020-04-20 in the part about Obosh
Would Judith the Scourge Diva not be a good inclusion in the deck? Her Anthem boost power as well and her death trigger deals damage which is doubled with Obosh.
Fantastic deck and video, as always! One question, though, if you don't mind me asking: "I tried my best not to include the cat+oven combo, which is pretty tempting" Was that to keep things interesting, or did it just not pan out in this particular build?
He explained that it was really a bit of both. Cat's damage doesn't get doubled with Obosh, and we can infer by his phrasing that most Obosh decks would be running cat oven, so he opted not to so he could spice things up
Hey, LVD! Wouldn't it be also nice to just run the cat-ovem-devil deck combo with this companion? or at least run the bastion of rememberance in the sideboard? what about 3 color? - mardu? at least you had good old tajic protect u from jeskai fires's clarion - and whats about judith? anyway, i find midnight reaper quite dangerous because once uve had played ur companion he could shoot you dead too - didnt that ever happen to u? best regards
Losing life is not the same as dealing damage (because the creature itself doesn't deal the loss of life, it's more like a passive effect that is caused by the creature when it's on the battlefield). Hence, it won't get doubled by obosh. LVD briefly touched on this while talking about trying not to include cat-oven in the deck tech. But basically that's the reason why the reaper won't shoot you down after obosh is in play. And the cat-oven-devil combo might still be really good in this deck but I think Legend was trying to avoid putting it in on principle 😅
Can someone tell me how the enemy player was able to sac Kroxa with the oven? I am new to mtg arena and I built a deck like that, but I never get time or a prompt to allow me to sac kroxa. Is there a setting I need to turn on or am I missing something?
You need to have full control enabled. This allows you time to respond to kroxa needing to sac itself. I would then turn it back off until you need it again, as having to pass on every trigger is insane.
Bastion of Remembrance should be ok here, odd course. Tried the deck, I didn't like the Reapers, with the double damage a sweeper can self-kill you, so I put Regisaurs instead. Also trying a couple of 5 drops: Cavalier, Sir Grym, Tickles...
One specifically says 'damage' the other says 'lose life'. Damage causes loss of life, but life loss doesn't count as damage. Obosh only doubles damage.
I used to play in paper tournaments and I did briefly have a Pro Player status before the entire system changed. Nowadays I'm more interested in making content.
She's great if you go Rakdos, but there is also a cost associated with adding a second color. Once you go Rakdos you might as well play Devil and add Cat + Oven which is something I wanted to avoid.
I have more fun with Orzhov. Teysa Karlov is too good right now with the cat/oven/priest shell with scorpion, hunted witness, cruel celebrant, and Tithe Taker etc. non companion Lurrus as a 4 of to tie it all together. It recovers really well from board wipes
whisper squad can't be good enough for standard. I don't believe it. Even with the synergies with ayara and heraldic banner, it can't be the only good 1 drop for black. If you use it once it's 3 mana raise the alarm. Like compare it to piper of the swarm that also can make 1/1s for 2 mana but can do it indefinitely and has additional upside and has similar stat value for the mana. I know it's an even card but piper wasn't close enough to being good enough for standard. It feels like the deck has difficulty getting to 5 mana oddly (lol) enough. Despite banner basically adding 4 more lands. Maybe foulmire knight? Maybe cat oven? Idk.
21:00 It's definitely a fun deck when you get this kind of "I have no clue how this is going to turn out" scenario
Amazing games! Especially liked the one against Rakdos Sacrifice. Love all the calculations, complications, mindgames. That is what I love about magic!
Same... Except with all the meta decks and horrible land RNG. Those amazing games are too rare sadly :L
This is oddly entertaining.
From cat oven to can't even.
Random *Odd* Lore: Obosh apparently has 347 legs.
"Obosh the Preypiercer is a legendary hellion horror from the plane of Ikoria.[1]
When the planeswalker Vivien Reid encountered the monstrous Obosh, her irrational first instinct was to count how many legs it had. However, she later realized it would be better to do so while keeping a safe distance from the monster. At some point, Vivien managed to count how many legs Obosh has: the answer is 347.
one side? or both sides? if both sides, means it has half a leg, if one side actual leg count is 694
maybe Vivien made a mistake?
@@Dexterity_Jones who cares it probably lost a leg
@@Dexterity_Jones Well I can't say I would question her accuracy, but 347 legs matches up with the Lore behind him and his "odd" card mechanic.
@@Keovar "emirp"*
@Corpsefoot Gaming why
"Playing for ante" comment made my day. I still remember the pain of opening up packs back in 94-95 and getting ante cards in the rare slot. (Looking at you
Amulet of Quoz and Demonic Attorney!)
Amulet of Quoz does have some fun combos in Freeform EDH
This deck is just so odd....I can't even.
i didnt even get the joke i feel so dumb right now
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@Conrad Johnathan Instablaster =)
I don't think your Scotish, but you pronounce Locthwain like a real highlander.. Nice!
Haha, thanks!
Honestly duder out of every streamer Ive ever watched play you deserve way WAY more likes & subs for your content
Oddly enough... I'm liking this one as well ;)
I love this deck, so fun to play! It has won me several games against flash variants. I only have 2 Ayaras so I threw in 2 Lurrus, and he works quite well in the deck too.
Definitely a good replacement, maybe should be a split to begin with.
Lurrus is a cool card
Thank you for not including cat/oven! I appreciate that. I am beyond sick of playing against that combo.
Whenever I finish a youtube video: "On to the next one"
With that many onde drops I'll add Lurrus, to cast from graveyard the scorpion loads of times. and Drain the opponent.
Definitely a solid addition. It didn't seem super needed with Gutterbones already coming back and Whisper Squad getting more copies, but recurring Scorpion is more exciting.
LegenVD Isn’t there a better alternative than the Gutterbones? I get that it keeps coming back. But it’s pretty slow IMO. Especially if you add Lurrus to the deck, wouldn’t a creature with haste be better. Like the hound with lifelink?
yea i pulled one land and one banner for 2 lurrus, the 4 open mana spot is akward and lurrus res 1 drop is pretty strong in that place
These titles are getting even better.
Edit: I love the black weenie deck 👍
And deck that gives permission decks a hard time is fantastic in my book.
Legend sounds like a stick of melted butter
Sweet build man!
That Sac Battle was awesome! Still curious how the Priest Activation in response would have turned out. Anyways, nice gameplay and commentary as always. Love the content, keep it up :)
I feel uneven watching this deck go off
that match against rakdos was crazy
I hate those pet noises, they keep making me think one of my pets is dying in the other room whenever I hear them whimper.
I can't stand the MTGA pets.
not an odd deck
That third match was crazy interesting
Against sakdos deck they would have had another turn if they used priest in response to the scorpion trigger.
If they use priest they sac 2 creatures (probably lurus and reveler, since obosh would be dying before combat damage so they wouldn't get lifelink off of lurus and would want to keep mayhem pings) and you sac 1, they also sac food and gain three up to 6. They use all those sac pings on obosh and kill him. They then lose two life from the scorpion trigger, then go to combat damage and knight gets in for 2 bringing them down to 2.
At this point they have priest and devil on the field, as well as 3 more food (only two of which they can afford to sac if they don't top deck land). Meanwhile you would have a knight, work strider, and goat token as well as a much more comfortable life total. It would have been interesting to see where that match went but I think you still had it
I play a Rakdos version with Weaponize the Monsters, Judith, Mayhem Devils. Really funny to sacrifice one Scorpion to deal like 10 damages to the face.
List?
Even Oddjob likes this deck!
Nice to see those flash decks getting beaten to a pulp
Do you think obosh is better in a monoblack shell or a monored shell? Or somewhere else?
I experimented with Monored but wasn't super impressed. Although dealing 8 damage with a burn spell was pretty sweet.
21:40 - "This is complicated"
Funny how when I go to see your videos, I recognize the deck I just played against. Easy win, BTW. Opp conceded as soon as I dropped the Deafening Clarion.
why ayara or also cat doesn't trigger the obosh ability?
I like the title
Deck looks spicy :) why not 3x Obosh in the main deck tho?
Thanks Dad
*mental imagery of LVD flinging scorpions*
S-tier deck name
that rakdos match is making my head spin...
Great games! :-)
I was expecting some banal cat oven deck. This is way better.
Very weird that MTG: Arena is introducing odd/even decks after Hearthstone, not before. :O
MTG did it before : "The first card that cared [about even/odd] showed up in Ice Age all the way back in 1994". MTGA doesn't "introduce" new elements, MTG does it.
magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/ikoria-beholder-part-1-2020-04-20 in the part about Obosh
@@TheNoon56 Oh, I've never played paper MTG, so mea culpa.
Judith would fit perfectly in there. Surprised not to see her.
Would it be interesting to add Murderous Rider and Extinction Event for a good sideboard in BO3 ?
Extinction Event would be funny against Gyruda decks, but it does mean losing Obosh.
Would Judith the Scourge Diva not be a good inclusion in the deck? Her Anthem boost power as well and her death trigger deals damage which is doubled with Obosh.
Definitely a good addition if you add red.
Oddly satisfying.
Fantastic deck and video, as always! One question, though, if you don't mind me asking:
"I tried my best not to include the cat+oven combo, which is pretty tempting"
Was that to keep things interesting, or did it just not pan out in this particular build?
He explained that it was really a bit of both. Cat's damage doesn't get doubled with Obosh, and we can infer by his phrasing that most Obosh decks would be running cat oven, so he opted not to so he could spice things up
Any deck that can bully simic flash is a great deck to me.
Hey, LVD! Wouldn't it be also nice to just run the cat-ovem-devil deck combo with this companion? or at least run the bastion of rememberance in the sideboard? what about 3 color? - mardu? at least you had good old tajic protect u from jeskai fires's clarion - and whats about judith?
anyway, i find midnight reaper quite dangerous because once uve had played ur companion he could shoot you dead too - didnt that ever happen to u?
best regards
Bastion and cat, are not damage effect, only life losing
Losing life is not the same as dealing damage (because the creature itself doesn't deal the loss of life, it's more like a passive effect that is caused by the creature when it's on the battlefield). Hence, it won't get doubled by obosh. LVD briefly touched on this while talking about trying not to include cat-oven in the deck tech. But basically that's the reason why the reaper won't shoot you down after obosh is in play. And the cat-oven-devil combo might still be really good in this deck but I think Legend was trying to avoid putting it in on principle 😅
At the same way, gary didnt works
2 is the oddest prime.
I thing that rotten Regisaur could fit in really well in an obosh deck. Imagine the damage you can do.
Embercleave + Obosh + Rotten Regisaur for a casual 32 damage
@@kleinstein30 embercleave is even tho
@@NoFutureForG0uda just an idea
Hey LvD if I provide you my cool orzhav deck will you make same video ?
is it rather not possible?
Can someone tell me how the enemy player was able to sac Kroxa with the oven? I am new to mtg arena and I built a deck like that, but I never get time or a prompt to allow me to sac kroxa. Is there a setting I need to turn on or am I missing something?
You need to have full control enabled. This allows you time to respond to kroxa needing to sac itself. I would then turn it back off until you need it again, as having to pass on every trigger is insane.
possible Judith upgrade?
I just liked for the title
The reason you didn't include cat/oven combo is because it's suboptimal there, or simply not fun?
I just want this with void winnower in historic. I hope we get it in historic soon
Bastion of Remembrance should be ok here, odd course. Tried the deck, I didn't like the Reapers, with the double damage a sweeper can self-kill you, so I put Regisaurs instead. Also trying a couple of 5 drops: Cavalier, Sir Grym, Tickles...
How do you get to go first so consistantly? Teach me your ways!
The secret lies in the Ajani avatar.
That third match omg, lol. Got super messy by the end there
3:35 I noticed you had a random card in your sideboard, and it is upsetting me for no reason that I want to know what that card was.
It's Obosh. Companion.
@@kurtcrean wait that is how it works? it is considered a sideboard card?
That is an interesting place to put it.
I think the companion counts towards that?
Needs Star of Extinction 😏
So many 1drops.. why not a couple of Lurrus?
Deck should play gyruda. Seems good..
I made a similar deck but in rakdos with more sacrifice
why does ayara's trigger do 1 dmg, but scorption's trigger does 4 dmg?
One specifically says 'damage' the other says 'lose life'. Damage causes loss of life, but life loss doesn't count as damage. Obosh only doubles damage.
Ya’ll think Black devotion is better with ikoria?
Hi! Are you a pro player? Did you go to tournaments on paper magic?
I used to play in paper tournaments and I did briefly have a Pro Player status before the entire system changed. Nowadays I'm more interested in making content.
Imagine the trigger of Mayhem Devil + OBosh oh boi
I need 16 rare wildcards to create this deck. Brilliant 😟
I feel like the rakdos version of this deck would be better. Play Judith and mayhem devil cast obosh on 5 and kill 'em real good.
But then you're basically forced to play cat oven.
@@LegenVD What about just judith then? Seems like it would be very strong in this type of deck.
Why no judith? Its just better than heraldic banner... And rotting regisaur its cool too...
She's great if you go Rakdos, but there is also a cost associated with adding a second color. Once you go Rakdos you might as well play Devil and add Cat + Oven which is something I wanted to avoid.
@@LegenVD sorry! You're right! You only go black! But if you go rakdos, you can go skewer the critics, scorch spitter, anax...
There should be at least one cavalier of night
So many decks to try, so few wildcards...
I’m 100% building this
I think a lot could be gained from Weaponize the Monsters in this deck
Oddly enough, this or something like it is probably better than mono-red in current Standard.
If you played for ante the lunch table became the gladiators arena.
I have more fun with Orzhov. Teysa Karlov is too good right now with the cat/oven/priest shell with scorpion, hunted witness, cruel celebrant, and Tithe Taker etc. non companion Lurrus as a 4 of to tie it all together. It recovers really well from board wipes
I like this deck even if it is so odd to watch
Number pun
cant even even
Resolving Ayara achivment ulocked
Okay LVD, okay
My mans came here to fling some 1-Drops at people, and by God is he winding up to pitch.
Also:
Daily reminder that R&D thinks UGx is fine.
Well, UGx is fine. The real design problem was Dawn of Hope
At least it's not monored
Weaponize them for possible 4 dmg
I am the only one who hates these cat oven decks so much?
Sigh...I cant even.
Here is my obosh list with over 80% win rate in mythic 500+.
Companion
1 Obosh, the Preypiercer (IKO) 228
Deck
4 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245
4 Steam Vents (GRN) 257
4 Watery Grave (GRN) 259
4 Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God (WAR) 207
4 Ionize (GRN) 179
2 Island (THB) 251
1 Mountain (THB) 253
4 Temple of Deceit (THB) 245
3 Temple of Malice (THB) 247
2 Voracious Greatshark (IKO) 70
1 Swamp (THB) 252
3 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
2 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244
2 Sea-Dasher Octopus (IKO) 66
4 Mystical Dispute (ELD) 58
4 Brazen Borrower (ELD) 39
4 Shock (M19) 156
4 Opt (XLN) 65
1 Cling to Dust (THB) 87
1 Temple of Epiphany (M20) 253
2 Lutri, the Spellchaser (IKO) 227
Sideboard
4 Duress (M20) 97
3 Erebos's Intervention (THB) 94
1 Obosh, the Preypiercer (IKO) 228
2 Redcap Melee (ELD) 135
2 Disfigure (M20) 95
2 Cling to Dust (THB) 87
1 Shadowspear (THB) 236
Your welcome.
hahah I can't even with this deck
whisper squad can't be good enough for standard. I don't believe it. Even with the synergies with ayara and heraldic banner, it can't be the only good 1 drop for black. If you use it once it's 3 mana raise the alarm.
Like compare it to piper of the swarm that also can make 1/1s for 2 mana but can do it indefinitely and has additional upside and has similar stat value for the mana. I know it's an even card but piper wasn't close enough to being good enough for standard. It feels like the deck has difficulty getting to 5 mana oddly (lol) enough. Despite banner basically adding 4 more lands. Maybe foulmire knight? Maybe cat oven? Idk.
C'mon lvd, just use the cat. You've played plenty of control decks so you don't have any dignity to lose anyway, haha!
I was thinking the same lol
I absolutely hate counterspell... I mean quench
I have insufficient IQ to pilot this in the mirror or vs Rakdos cat/oven
I can’t even understand this...
What an odd deck
a white girls fav mtg deck
A very odd choice for a deck.
Worst deck ever, 10 games 1 win. Do not muont this
I can’t even understand this...