United Airlines B767 DRAMATIC TOUCH AND GO at Zurich Airport

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  • Plane Spotting at Zurich Airport showing a dramatic touch and go (aborted landing) of an United Airlines Boeing 767. It was no crosswind, therefore I assume the spoilers didn't deploy or deploy to late, therefore the plane did bouncing after landing and the plane got incredible sloping wings. As the runway got closer and close the pilot pull down the nose to get speed for take off again.
    The 2nd part of the video shows the appropriate landing in the second try.
    0:00 Touch and Go
    1:11 Landing
    Aircraft: Boeing 767-322(ER)
    Airline: United Airlines
    Registration: N654UA
    Callsign: UA52
    Flight Route: Washington (IAD) - Zurich (ZRH)
    Date: 30.05.2024
    © This video is property of zrhaircraft and may not be reused without permission! If you wish to use some of my content, please write it in the comments.
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  • @zrhaircraft
    @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

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  • @CarolBurger-ru7vc
    @CarolBurger-ru7vc 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +156

    If this is the flight that arrived on the morning of May 30th, I was on this flight. It was a disconcerting, uncomfortable moment, but the passengers were quiet and calm. I was taking deep breaths so as not to get sick. It was clear that we were running out of runway, so the takeoff was a relief. A few passengers clapped when we did land, but I was just glad to be on the ground unharmed. Interestingly, the pilot informed us that the tower had requested that we "circle around" again. Thanks for filming and sharing this. It is very interesting to see this event from outside the plane.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Yes it was this flight and nice to hear that nothing happened to the passengers and crew

    • @p51pilot28
      @p51pilot28 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Id have told tower unable. No thanks. Not at that point.

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      I think the circle around excuse is complete BS. But hey it sounds good!

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@p51pilot28 the crew alone decide on a go-around. Then they tell the tower, and they are guided by radar vectors to try again.

    • @tomasmenezes3683
      @tomasmenezes3683 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Yeah, the tower request to “circle around” is complete BS for sure, nice excuse from the pilots, and this is coming from someone that knows a thing or two about ATC, glad that they landed safely afterwards!

  • @geocholderi
    @geocholderi 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +77

    Flare slightly early. No ground spoilers. Then pilot induced oscillation. Go around initiation somewhat late but definitely the correct decision.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      About flares and spoilers we had already a discussion yesterday evening, there it was well explained in german, so you share the same opinion. The go around was surely the right decision, it was not much space left on the runway, pretty sure it was to late to stop this huge plan in time on the runway

    • @e36s50b30
      @e36s50b30 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Airframe got totally upset due to spoilers not being deployed. I am no expert on B767, but it might be related to insufficient weight on wheels.

    • @p51pilot28
      @p51pilot28 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Or they didnt arm the spoilers.

    • @perezlalo
      @perezlalo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@p51pilot28or the AUTO-SPEEDBRAKES were INOP. Subsequently deployed manually.

    • @Sams911
      @Sams911 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      no spoilers armed is what got them

  • @TheHDAviation
    @TheHDAviation 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Fantastic footage of this touch-and-go and landing, what an awesome spotting location!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thx a lot, was really luck to be at the right time at the right place, normally I expected to get a nice waterspray landing and then this happens :) Soon I will upload a video from that day with impressive waterspray landings from A330 and B777

  • @Siva_S
    @Siva_S 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Tailstrike - just miss
    Wingstrike - juat miss
    Running out of runway - just miss
    Bouncy ball play - check
    Only thing they didnt do was initiating reverse thrust too soon.

    • @soyogen22
      @soyogen22 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Tail, within inches. Wing, nowhere close. Those wings are somewhat typical of a normal landing in PHX or LAS in Summer. 😁

  • @whaledriver1030
    @whaledriver1030 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    The 757,767 spoilers are a bit tricky to arm. Just this week, my FO didn’t arm them correctly and upon landing called out, no spoilers.
    So as the Captain and Pilot flying in this case, I had to grab the handle and extend them manually.
    Not a big deal since I was firmly on the ground and it wasn’t a big distraction.
    They had other control issues going on in this case. It appears like they stopped flying the aircraft and possible PIO.
    The delay to hit the GA switch and fly the Aircraft had my pucker factor pegged! Glad they finally rectified the situation and landed safely.
    😬

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Great to have an explanation from a pilot, that is what i was hoping for in the discussions of that video :)

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please don't say "they delayed to hit the GA switch". That just perpetuates the whole AP/BS thing. A GA should be flown by the PF. FLOWN. Not observed. There are reasons why they are FLOWN in training. A successful GA does not need a SWITCH. See Emirates 777 crash in Dubai for more info.

    • @alexdrudigmail
      @alexdrudigmail 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Too much up elevator during the flare?

    • @TresBelle-sm4fu
      @TresBelle-sm4fu 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      15 years in the left seat and I never had a problem arming the spoilers.

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They're tricky all right. You need to move the lever about an inch into a detent. ;)

  • @germanpoweractivated
    @germanpoweractivated 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    You absolutely so have one of the best spotting channels

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thx a lot for these nice words

  • @matteoveneziani700
    @matteoveneziani700 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Amazing capture. Based on the reference in the video he had all the wheels on the ground at the other runway intersection ( so less than 800mt remaining ). Probably he rotated with less than 100mt of runway remaining. Amazing!

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      amazing - that he made it at all. This is not a runway for stunts like this.

  • @PlaneSpottingBerlin
    @PlaneSpottingBerlin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Wow what a CATCH!
    They decided to Go Around a bit late as they had to put down the aircraft and use the entire remaining runway to get up to speed again. Thats pretty rare!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Thank you. To catch this video so close and nice sharpe quality is really rare, even so rare that my video was shown yesterday evening in RTL aktuell news, incredible :)

    • @816928
      @816928 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft Amazing video sir. Congratulations! I have a question for you. Can you recall from the morning of the incident if you heard the thrust reversers deploy on the initial landing. From your video, it appears that they deployed the thrust reversers before they elected to go around. We can see moisture being blown off the runway from, what looks like reverse thrust. If this is the case, most operators prohibit go arounds after reverse thrust is deployed. This could have ended very badly for this flight. Again, amazing capture.

  • @mcass777
    @mcass777 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Lots to learn from with this video. Great catch. Looks like classic pilot induced oscillation.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thank you, that was also my thinking about what to learn within the video and therefore i am happy to have different opinions and discussions here

  • @miketheavgeek
    @miketheavgeek 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    What the hell!!! Those 76’s are difficult to land in some occasions! What a fantastic footage, they decided quite late to apply full thrust, easily seen by the engines black smoke! Amazing! Superb capture!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thank you Mike, I also thought that they should speed up earlier, pros/cons decision to be done within 2-3 seconds probably

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What makes them "difficult to land in some occasions"? Why? This looked pretty tame to me.

    • @timduggan1461
      @timduggan1461 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Well, not "difficult" at all to land a B767.
      Retired pilot here, plenty of hours flying them.

    • @timduggan1461
      @timduggan1461 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also, no, modern turbofan engines don't produce black smoke. You saw some water kicked up by the exhaust thrust.

  • @mylosairplanefan
    @mylosairplanefan 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    What an absolute insane capture!! 😳 Never seen something like this before. Awesome work, thanks for sharing!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      thank you, i was also totally suprised what happend in front of my lense, never saw something similiar before

  • @jewallace1
    @jewallace1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The pilots did it right. The camera lens makes the runway shorter than it actually is.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that surely true, but this runway in ZRH is pretty short and it was around 500m left more or less

  • @kaypie3112
    @kaypie3112 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’ve never been to Zurich, but from what I can tell:
    It’s Runway 28.
    Runway 28 has precision approach markings and approach lights.
    That means there is a precision approach to that runway with glide slope guidance.
    That said, it looks as though it is perhaps a steeper than 3 degree glideslope to that runway? It looks like higher terrain out there on the approach?
    Higher glide path angle means potential to carry higher airspeeds - which will cause you to float during the flare.
    The first landing looked to me that he/she touched down past the touchdown zone markings.
    He/she planted it on the runway which was the right thing to do. Then, to me, it looks like they attempted to plant the nose gear as well. From there, he/she got themselves into a PIO by over- correcting with a pitch-up input.
    At some point, the pilot induced a roll as well
    It looks to me like the Captain decided to go-around. At the :36 second mark, The captain applied power on the engines, and it’s possible that the engines spooled up asymmetrically which caused the nose to yaw. The captain dumped the nose to get some airspeed and regain some flight control authority.
    Luckliy, they were fairly light and Zurich is a low altitude airport(1400’) so they were able to get away with going around with the flaps fully deployed.
    .

  • @Quebeck_tv
    @Quebeck_tv 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Wow das ist unglaublich, noch nie so etwas gesehen 😳

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Danke Dir, ist mir vorher auch noch nie passiert, hatte in ZRH in den letzten Wochen 2x Glück, einmal mit dem Edelweiss A340 und nun dieses mal, darf gerne so weiter gehen :)

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ich auch nicht. Haarscharf.

  • @Graubartli
    @Graubartli 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh, das muss ein komisches Gefühl für die Insassen gewesen sein.
    Wunderbare Filmaufnahme, besten Dank 🙌

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Danke für das Lob wegen der Filmaufnahme. Ich hoffe das alle Insassen unverletzt rausgekommen sind und deswegen keine Angst vor dem Fliegen bekommen haben, hauptsache es ist hoffentlich nichts passiert

  • @frankeberlein3998
    @frankeberlein3998 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Danke für dieses fantastische Video 👍

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Vielen Dank für die Spende

  • @crosswind787
    @crosswind787 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Super gefilmt wow

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Vielen Dank

  • @stephendeklerk2479
    @stephendeklerk2479 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They side loaded the plane. They’re crabbing into a right crosswind. Before touchdown they put left rudder in to straighten the plane. However, they never put right aileron in. Instead of the right wing going down, the left wing goes down and they start drifting to the left. Then they touch down still drifting left causing the side load. Instead of the right main gear touching down first the left main gear touches down first. If they did that in a tailwheel airplane they would have ground looped it.

  • @raymondanderson1026
    @raymondanderson1026 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Holy crap, that was freaky!

  • @onehittaquitta
    @onehittaquitta 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Good Leads the Way!!

  • @RudivanGoch
    @RudivanGoch 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    That is insane!! Brilliant footage!!!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thx a lot for the compliment

    • @heartfeltteaching
      @heartfeltteaching 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraftWhich runway is this?

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heartfeltteaching It is runway 28

    • @heartfeltteaching
      @heartfeltteaching 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft Thanks! I was looking at the airport runways on Google Maps and couldn’t figure it out because the runway in the video looks different to 28 as it appears in the map.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@heartfeltteaching probably cause by using 600mm lense for capturing

  • @BAVBavarianAviationVideonews
    @BAVBavarianAviationVideonews 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Wow da fehlte nicht mehr viel bis zum Tailstrike🙈 Interessante Aufnahmen, Daumen hoch👍😉

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Danke für das Kompliment, beim Filmen fand ich es noch cool sowas mal live zu sehen, im Nachhinein einfach nur froh, das nichts passiert ist

    • @jeromez.2672
      @jeromez.2672 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In der Regel wird das durchstarten früher eingeleitet. Das hat mich schon gewundert. Sieht man bei den britischen Sturmvideos sehr oft. Hätte das späte Manöver wahrscheinlich verhindert.
      Kostet aber halt auch zeit, ein neuer Anflug. Da will man vllt schnell runter.

    • @BlueSideUp
      @BlueSideUp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Es gibt Kriterien für einen stabilen Anflug, wenn die nicht mehr erfüllt sind, ist ein "go-around" nicht optional. Der Pilot Monitoring wird das zur Not feststellen und einleiten. Natürlich ist ein high energy go-around früh besser, aber hier schien alles ganz O.K., ich vermute nur zu viel Airspeed, daher leichter bounce. Die Perspektive und lange Brennweite verzerren allerdings das Geschehen auch ordentlich. Alles safe.

    • @jeromez.2672
      @jeromez.2672 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@BlueSideUp Danke. Dürfte ich nocht Ihren Hintergrund erfahren. Das ist immer sehr interessant. Das Netz ist ja doch auch voll von vielen "Experten". Daher ist es immer gut, dass auch Experten ihre Antworten steuern.

    • @BlueSideUp
      @BlueSideUp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jeromez.2672 ich bin Privatpilot für Helikopter und Flächenflugzeuge, Besitzer einer Cirrus. Viel meines recurring trainings und einen Teil meiner Ausbildung haben Airline Piloten geleistet und tun das weiterhin. Ein paar Stunden im 747-8 Simulator der LFT in EDDF sind allerdings alles, was mit den größeren Vögeln hands on zu tun hat. Die Regeln für einen stabilen Anflug sind allerdings ziemlich identisch, nur dass Privatpiloten leider stärker dazu neigen, instabile Anflüge noch "retten" zu wollen, aus falschem Scham oder um Gebühren zu sparen oder, oder. Daher sind die Regeln im Airliner klarer und das CRM verteilt die Verantwortung auf beide Piloten.

  • @maurob0
    @maurob0 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Wow great footage!!
    That plane roared at around 240 kilometers per hour down that short runway, and only after 15 seconds after its first contact it had all tires on the ground - so about 1.00 to 1.250 kilometers of runway have already passed!! That is insane!! Moreover, that runway is wet and it is only 2500 metres long, the shortest in Zurich. Credits to the pilots!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Thx for the compliment about the video. I went to this spotter place to make nice waterspray landings on this wet runway and then this touch an go happened. This video shows a very good reason, why 2 runways at Zurich needs to be extended.

    • @maurob0
      @maurob0 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely, they should be extended. Hope the voters got that message. Where is that spotter location? Is it accessible for anyone?

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@maurob0 yes it is, in rümlang next to runway end

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      a good thing here was that fuel weight was almost nil, so the plane could climb out steeply. There are buildings not too far from the end.

  • @skbenergy
    @skbenergy 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WOW WOW...greetings from the Caribbean island of St. Kitts...that was a rare and awesome catch :)

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thx for the compliment, greeting back from switzerland

  • @AVI8OR101
    @AVI8OR101 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing capture

  • @davidcristobaldelacruz4615
    @davidcristobaldelacruz4615 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hmm… the landing gear works excelent!!! Amazing!!

  • @hmishin843
    @hmishin843 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Landing spoilers unarmed, and did not deploy.

    • @816928
      @816928 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The spoilers won't deploy even if they were armed if the thrust levers are out of idle or the gear is still tilted. If you look closely the spoilers look too be deployed it is just hard to see because their pitch is far too nose high. Dangerously close to tail strike.

  • @Dangermike1986
    @Dangermike1986 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Man man man,das sieht man selten.Super Aufnahme und gut,dass nichts passiert ist

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Danke Dir, kannst Dir vorstellen das es mir beim Filmen auch etwas mulmig wurde als das Flugzeug immer näher kam

  • @Rondo2ooo
    @Rondo2ooo 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Now, that actually deserves passengers' clapping after landing.

  • @PLANEMANIA747
    @PLANEMANIA747 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    0:33 😮
    Nice capturing 😍

  • @JelmersAviation
    @JelmersAviation 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What an awesome video man!

  • @ohareplanespotting
    @ohareplanespotting 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic!

  • @SwissSpotters
    @SwissSpotters 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Super Aufnahme! Zur richtigen Zeit am richtigen Spotting Platz 😃👍

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Besten Dank, ja da hatte ich wirklich Glück gehabt :)

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      und dann noch im Dauerregen!

  • @matthiashaenni
    @matthiashaenni 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Super Video! Wow dieses Durchstartmanöver ist krass.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Danke Dir, ja ist wirklich krass, Und das ich dies so nah vor die Linse bekommen haben ist der Hammer

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft Züri-News würde den Vid sicher auch gern zeigen. Hast du schon gefragt?

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PeterNGloor Nein habe dort nicht angefragt, viele sind dirkt auf uns zugekommen, die mail adresse steht im kanal drin, aber guter punkt, müsste mal schauen auf diese loszugehen

  • @xyzaero9656
    @xyzaero9656 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such a perfectly smooth approach and landing and suddenly this oscillation sets in. Strange 🤨

  • @3MinutesofAviation
    @3MinutesofAviation 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Cool capture! May I feature this late go around in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. All the best to you!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thx for the compliment. Lets discuss this via my mail address in my profile or via instagram please.

  • @Rasscasse
    @Rasscasse 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I’ve never seen an on the ground - non-landing like this before.
    Truly quite something to see.
    A lot of unusual things are happening in a short time here.
    I suspect your video might be used for training purposes in the future .
    Have you offered it to United Airlines Flight Crew Training Dept yet ?
    Bravo on the filming 👏

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Thank you, lets see if someone from UA Training Dept will contact me :)

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft hoffentlich. Und dir auch einen Batzen dafür zahlen.

    • @Rasscasse
      @Rasscasse 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe you should promote yourself And write to them Tell them that you have an interesting video they might wish to use for training purposes.

  • @user-by5kd6du2f
    @user-by5kd6du2f 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    الحمد لله على السلامة

  • @alberthuang7366
    @alberthuang7366 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you look closely 0:34 , before they did the go-around, they did use the thrust reversers. Boeing says after the reverse thrust is used, a full stop landing must be made.

  • @happyslappy5203
    @happyslappy5203 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Zurich ATC to United pilot: "er.. Do you know Swiss hotels' prices by any chance?"
    United pilot: *(abort landing)* *(fly back to Washington)*

  • @bjornw827
    @bjornw827 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the perspective does not allow to judge how much runway was left. For sure PIO but no spoilers are simply the result of not enough pressure on the main gear - that’s not a mistake.
    After the initial two bounces somebody called a go around which resulted in a super high AoA - however the aircraft had already lost too much speed and was probably really slow. It’s visible that they applied toga thrust in this situation which did not result in lift - one can easily lose situational awareness in this situation. Potentially controls where changed then (for me it looks as if the captain said „my controls“ as he realised the unfortunate situation), the nose was pushed down, the aircraft accelerated and rotated again.

  • @garyowen9454
    @garyowen9454 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would love to have been in the jump seat to observe this, or, correction, I would love to see a video showing both pilots and their conversation. Without that, it is difficult to pass judgment. If the spoilers don't auto-deploy, the pilot flying can deploy them or call "SPOILERS!" If I had been in the jumpseat, it would have bothered me to watch and be unable to do anything!

  • @timduggan1461
    @timduggan1461 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The first attempt? Poor airmanship. I also thought I saw the reversers deploy, you can see the water kicking up. We are trained to never go around once you actuvate the reversers...
    But I'm guessing the Captain decided insufficient runway remaining after all of the porpoising. So, break the "rule" and prevent a runway overrun. Good call. They will have some explaining to do with the Chief Pilot back at base

    • @andoanthony7606
      @andoanthony7606 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good call for sure. If it’s for safety you may break the rules yes with explanation at the end but sometimes common sense may save you from crash

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      as the tower usually says: I have a phone number you have to call..

    • @waldfritz1
      @waldfritz1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You thought, you saw reversers deploy. But zoom in pls and compare to other videos same ac type same spot. I think they weren‘t.

    • @12345fowler
      @12345fowler 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waldfritz1 Off course the weren't. Nobody does that.

    • @816928
      @816928 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waldfritz1 The water vapor coming off the runway is a very troubling indication that they did deploy TR's. Once the pilot did this the speed brakes would have deployed which made things worse as far as nose up pitch. As the initial poster stated, the go around was probably warranted. It looks as though they a couple hundred meters of pavement left. If I had to guess the First Officer really had a bad day at the office.

  • @galewinds7696
    @galewinds7696 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pilot: I have no time to pick up or drop off passengers, I must get to Istanbul.

  • @leonb2637
    @leonb2637 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Apparently from other comments, there didn't seem to be any unusual wind or service issues. I wonder as this was an overnight flight, if either of the pilots, especially the PF was a little 'off'.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it was an overnight flight.

    • @816928
      @816928 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There was most likely 3 pilots as this flight originated from Dulles.

  • @johanwalchli1870
    @johanwalchli1870 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bravo!

  • @madeiraaviation4656
    @madeiraaviation4656 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wowwww, almost a Acident!!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes, there could have been a tailstreak or crash end of runway, but the chances for tailstreak was much higher compared to a runway issue

  • @cheapercharlie
    @cheapercharlie 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    nice catch

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thank you

  • @cesarioj.f.g.7959
    @cesarioj.f.g.7959 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Full TR done... Three touches, one go around and one full stop landing.. Check 😊

  • @AviationTrainTV
    @AviationTrainTV 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice catch

  •  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello, thank you for this beautiful video. Greetings from Turkey 💯👏👏🔔👍

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi, thank you for the warm words. Greetings from Switzerland 👍

  • @seannielsen6587
    @seannielsen6587 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    No ground spoilers and no reverseers deployed. Good call to go around.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes correct, that was also our assumption

    • @JS-gt5bh
      @JS-gt5bh 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why no ground spoilers or reverseers deployed?🤔😮

  • @ZRHSPOTTER-sw3ot
    @ZRHSPOTTER-sw3ot 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Klasse Fang Raphael liked

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Danke dir Marlies

  • @kabaddiify
    @kabaddiify 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Landing checklist : landing gear … down 3 greens… down 3 greens , flaps 25… flaps 25 landing checklist complete 😅😅 ummm what happened to the spoilers? 😅

    • @lbowsk
      @lbowsk 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You don't fly a 67.

  • @jeffreygoldberg1675
    @jeffreygoldberg1675 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The PIC reaction time was at the best slow.

  • @ZurichAirportSpotter
    @ZurichAirportSpotter 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Incredible catch.. any pilots here? Just from the bouncing behavior and from looking closely to the wings after touchdown it looks like the spoilers didn't deploy. A bit difficult to judge due to the pitch angle but 767 spoilers usually deploy quite quickly, especially compared to the Airbus A330 for example.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would be great to have a nice discussion what happened during the landing

    • @HotelPapa100
      @HotelPapa100 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The left-right rocking looked like a PIO to me, pilot induced oscillation. Correction inputs in the wrong phase exacerbate the problem. No view of the control surfaces to confirm this. Re spoilers: It's possible that these require both main gears loaded, which they never saw at the beginning. At 0:35 you see them deployed on the port wing.

    • @ezb77
      @ezb77 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HotelPapa100 actually you can see them on both wings...

    • @HotelPapa100
      @HotelPapa100 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ezb77 Yep. I just could not concentrate on both at the same time.

    • @ezb77
      @ezb77 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HotelPapa100 I know the problem

  • @Philippe_L.M757
    @Philippe_L.M757 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow wie Episch war das denn bitte

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Besten Dank für das Lob

  • @gordanamiljus9152
    @gordanamiljus9152 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Važno je da ste svi živi I zdravi❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @AeroProductions747
    @AeroProductions747 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Uiiii uiii uiii, da ging aber mal was richtig schief. Krasse film aufnahmen 😮

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Danke für das Lob, war zur richtigen Zeit am richtigen Ort, noch nie sowas selbst gesehen

    • @NoName-jl7gs
      @NoName-jl7gs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Sieht aus, als wären bei der ersten Landung die Spoilers nicht ausgefahren, oder?

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@NoName-jl7gs ja genau, deshalb ist der flieger auch so am hüpfen, vermutlich gingen die nicht automatisch raus und erst anschliessend manuell, da war es dann wohl schon zu spät

    • @NoName-jl7gs
      @NoName-jl7gs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft Dann tippe ich darauf, dass die Piloten die Spoilers nicht richtig gearmed haben. Menschlich, kann passieren…

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@NoName-jl7gs das ist möglich, mal schauen ob es irgendwann mal eine offizielle Begründung dafür gibt

  • @SkyWayMan90
    @SkyWayMan90 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Quadruple bounce, PIO, no ground spoilers, and a go-around after reverser deployment…highly abnormal and highly unsafe…glad it all worked out tho

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      agree, we are all happy that nothing happened...and you can imgaine how nervous i got, when this plane came closer and closer to me

  • @generationaviation-zrhspot5712
    @generationaviation-zrhspot5712 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zur richtigen Zeit am richtigen Ort würde ich sagen 💪👍

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ja das stimmt, hatte mich eigentlich auf Waterspray Landing eingestellt und dann passiert so was cooles :)

  • @giancarlafasola816
    @giancarlafasola816 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Help me !!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱 👏👏👏👏👏al pilota ! 🇮🇹

  • @zimmerking2323
    @zimmerking2323 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yo! ZRH Aircraft! Good video, BUT have you considered posting the MET report at the time of landing? Note the wet runway and dark clouds overhead. Thanks! (Retired -767 captain here; 18,000 hours total time.) Cheers.

  • @jemi1210
    @jemi1210 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That was awesome 🔥👍

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes indeed

  • @Dr.telekom
    @Dr.telekom 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Klasse Video 😍😍

  • @petersohns3489
    @petersohns3489 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Das üben wir noch einmal

  • @TheFejfAviation
    @TheFejfAviation 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My goodness, they are so lucky!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh yes, I dont want to know how the passengers feels inside the plane, probably they dont want to fly soon again

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft I am sure all those US citizens will have a booking for the return flight, which cannot be changed or cancelled.

  • @VMBproduction
    @VMBproduction 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, krass 😯

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ja, allerdings :)

  • @TM-nu7pj
    @TM-nu7pj 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Anyone know the balked/rejected landing procedure for the 757/767? For most jets you maintain landing/level pitch until reaching vref THEN pitch up for a Go Around.
    Looks like here they initiated a go around but started pitching before the aircraft was ready to fly

    • @816928
      @816928 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They had no choice. No more runway left, lol.

  • @davidrowe1004
    @davidrowe1004 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WOW!

  • @karloarsch1579
    @karloarsch1579 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1. No spoilers
    2. PIO

  • @floridah7016
    @floridah7016 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Question: I fly the 777 and there is a clear indication on EICAS and checklist when the speedbrake is armed. Is there also an indication in the 767 cockpit?

    • @816928
      @816928 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No indication. Poor design carried over from older aircraft.

  • @MurexHyena
    @MurexHyena 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello, may I use some of the footage to explain to my audience what happened? I have an arabian aviation channel , obviously I'll give full credit to your channel
    Excellent footage by the way!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi, thx for the compliment, please contact me via my mail address or instagram

    • @MurexHyena
      @MurexHyena 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hello, I can't find your email, and your insta will not allow me to message you unless you also follow me 💜

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MurexHyena my mail: zrhaircraft@gmail.com

  • @ShotInTheDark
    @ShotInTheDark 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How far down the runway did they get before they got airborne again?

  • @user-ze7ek9pd2z
    @user-ze7ek9pd2z 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Из ничего сделать проблему надо умудриться!!!

  • @l.faraday8767
    @l.faraday8767 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That is one short landing strip!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it is not soo terrible, it is 2500m, even the a380 lands often there in the evening

  • @user-ym8tb1if6n
    @user-ym8tb1if6n 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sehr sehr cooles Video mach weiter so

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Danke Dir, hatte wirklich prima gepasst

    • @user-ym8tb1if6n
      @user-ym8tb1if6n 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@zrhaircraft Bitte

  • @mimoyah
    @mimoyah 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When the plane bounced, you could hear the sound "Boeing...Boeing..."

  • @camomiletea6708
    @camomiletea6708 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The pilots have a lot to explain. The airline should be doing a thorough investigation into the circumstances of one of the most dangerous go-around attempts. The FAA should also be investigating.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The official explanation what happened would be really interessting to read

  • @eriton6806
    @eriton6806 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The go around was apparently due to a horrible landing (the plane bounces on the runway a couple of times and struggles to keep a straight line), probably due to windshear.

  • @xyzaero9656
    @xyzaero9656 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That‘s the aim point markings.

  • @johnr7856
    @johnr7856 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Looks like they failed to arm the speedbrakes prior to landing and didn't get auto-deploy on a short 8800' runway and went around. They did good going around, things happen lay off them. Lesson learned.

  • @msvideos8054
    @msvideos8054 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    They didn't land, they just stopped flying 😯

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      that is also an interessting view ;)

  • @ellieb3930
    @ellieb3930 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bet everyone watching was holding their breath as it came in the second time. I can't even imagine what the passengers were thinking.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes indeed, i already hope that all passengers are fine and nothing happened. in previous comments you will find reactions from 1-2 passengers from the plane

  • @AhmedAlmotairy
    @AhmedAlmotairy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After a closer look it seemed that the pilot selected the reverse thrust at 0:35 while trying to ease up the oscillation and holding the nose up which was too late 5 seconds later the TO/GA 0:41 possibly the other pilot realizing what was happening

  • @jcommtube
    @jcommtube 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Spoilers not armed? Great video !

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thx, yes this was the case what i heard

  • @yamahaevo
    @yamahaevo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First to me looks like a new pilot even with some oscilliations.

  • @ezb77
    @ezb77 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Spoilers seem to deploy on both wings only at 0:34. Maybe they were not armed or didn't deploy because of the bouncing? They go back down 0:35 when they initiated the go around.
    Quite dramatic viewing and an uncomfortable ride for the pax. Maybe should have gone around one bounce prior? Don't know what the handbook says. But surely the right decision.
    Great catch!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thx for the compliment. There were only 900m left on the runway, there were not much alternatives besides take off again, or the plane would have stopped after the runway

    • @ezb77
      @ezb77 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@zrhaircraft Yeah. He initiated the GA between Foxtrott and Echo. Not much room to play with left. Wonder how much runway was left when the wheels actually left the ground. Hard to see because of the dip in the rwy.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft this rwy has an overrun extension, which might have come handy here. Nobody would get hurt if the plane got into it.

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PeterNGloor yes this i learned after the first comments here in the chat, this overrun extension is absolutely needed for this short runway.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@zrhaircraft Mind you, the overrun has not been in place for a long time. Landings into the wind have taken place with all sizes of planes for decades without any incident. But an overrun section is still a good safety feature.

  • @bobbys2160
    @bobbys2160 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    good decision to go around

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yes indeed

  • @jeffgoin
    @jeffgoin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Agreed, it was primarily caused by not having the speedbrakes armed. But DARN it was close to a tail strike in those pitch oscillations!

    • @jarsofclay7
      @jarsofclay7 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sometimes they are armed but don't deploy. Seen it plenty of times. In this case they are manually deployed by pilot flying.

  • @PetrolHeadBrasil
    @PetrolHeadBrasil 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They came too fast! After the second "jump", go around! Don't take the whole runway to realize that you need to go around!

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it seems pilot still tried to land, but tower told them to do a go around, this one of the passengers stated in one of the previous comments

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zrhaircraft I wonder if they really got a call from the tower. The tower cannot normally do this.

  • @pesawatindonesia
    @pesawatindonesia 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    nice bos

  • @Hinti1976
    @Hinti1976 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What the Hell!!! I was literally screaming @my Screen "Go AROUND!!!" ATC Traffic should be interesting!?

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      unfortunately not ATC this time, during life screams I do ATC, would be very interesting this time

  • @jwalkup5047
    @jwalkup5047 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think he pumped the power on the landing interrupting the spoilers.

  • @torben.a330
    @torben.a330 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done by the crew that they avoided the tailstrike and handled this aircraft safely, even during the heavy bounces. The late go-around was, for sure, the right decision

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At the end it was the right decision by the crew for sure.

  • @ControversialOG
    @ControversialOG 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was really hard to watch, almost got second hand embarrassment.

  • @GaryBartanus
    @GaryBartanus 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video! Thank you for posting. I'm no pilot, but I thought that the "successful" landing was pretty awful, too. Not only does United Airlines break guitars, but I suspect that they probably also break a lot of landing gear. ;-)

    • @zrhaircraft
      @zrhaircraft  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thx for the compliment, i never saw or captured something like this before :)

    • @CarolBurger-ru7vc
      @CarolBurger-ru7vc 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, as a passenger on this flight, I can confirm that the actual landing was very hard.

    • @PeterNGloor
      @PeterNGloor 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CarolBurger-ru7vc you mean the first one?

    • @CarolBurger-ru7vc
      @CarolBurger-ru7vc 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PeterNGloorNo, I mean the second one, where we actually stayed on the ground.

  • @fernandovalente3457
    @fernandovalente3457 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Não percebo esta situação, anda a fazer acrobacia ou faltou-lhe a pista, por mim penso que é um maçarico muito novo, para fazer uma borrice destas, só pode, então o Comandante onde estava?

  • @familycurtress6829
    @familycurtress6829 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    His go around decision was far too late. The landing was destabilised immediately after touchdown. The aircraft seemed to have too much airspeed at touchdown.