This program is going to change the rog ally scene so much. Ive only tested with only 6 cores and the gpu seems to ramp up a bit better in starfield. Pretty happy so far :)
You might want to mention that in Armory Crate to set AC to the windows power management option. If you don't AC and UTU will fight over power management.
Thanks for sharing. This is gonna be fun to mess around with to get the most out of the ROG Ally. Such a great handheld. This is really gonna make it my go to handheld.
Might also be worth mentioning that the fps limiter only works for exclusive full screen, if the game only supports fullscreen (windowed) you’re out of luck
so whats stopping you doing the same thing via the armory, set it at 28 W custom profile , and then set the FPS. I get that the armory you have to make custom profiles to do it, vs just do it on the fly i guess thats the only positive
Looks like manual mode won't allow the app to take control of power management. Windows mode won't allow fan control so you'll always get thermal throttled. Basically useless at this point
@onsh it works for me . Using manual mode for fan control and x86 handled the rest. Only issue was gpu freq stays at what you set as until a reboot. Besides Asus put out a new fan curve for turbo mode so it's not like it's much of a issue anymore
In my country pre-order start 27 june, and i can't wait to get mine on september.. But why the long wait.. Watching your video will prep me well when i get my hands on
Love the videos, been on the channel since 2017 for the early launch box days. Can you do an ULTIMATE setup with a custom windows like Tiny or Ghost(prefer ghost lol), handheld control panel, utu and big box? I think that would apply to ALL handhelds and would really give people who aren't PC savvy a step by step guide on how to get the MOST console like experience out of their handheld. Love ya again, keep up the great work!
ETA prime, I live in North Carolina as well so shouts out to you. Could you please make a video of what equipment you would use to start off a youtube channel? Maybe even do the equipment on tiers? A video on how you would go about it if you had to start over again or how the process works to create content?
I downloaded the utility its not working the way it did for you I had to use the right joystick as the mouse the d pad just allowed me to see more options how do you change the color from black and white letters
This is sick. Just the RivaTuner quick access is worth it alone as I'm not really happy with Asus' own FPS limiter since it doesn't function unless it's set before you open a game.
Adaptive FPS works like Radeon Chill (but works properly with controller input), so when no user input is detected, the minimum FPS value is set, and when user input is detected, the max FPS limit will be applied. I found it useful to save power with instances where high FPS isn’t needed, so I added it to the application.
man this device is attracts me more than the steamdeck and i own a deck already. the fact that you can do windows and install other windows games and apps is just appetizing to me. with the deck i have linux but i dislike it alot. i should have waited up instead of buying my deck. only if installing windows were easy on my deck i would do it in a heartbeat but too bad that you need to install drivers and what have you as well while with the ally its all pre installed. you just need to upgrade your software.
Actually depending on how you use your Windows the Ally's Windows 11 is quite painful...
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I have both steam deck and ROG Ally , if I would need to pick only one I would choose the Steam Deck , the fact that you have a native 800p screen helps much more for the games I play to feel smooth even if I have to limit the FPS , on Windows the FPS limit does not really work as on Steam deck and for exmemple I have much better time with Snowrunner on Steam Deck with battery over 3 hours , compared to unstable performance on windwos on ROG Ally and only max 90 minutes maybe
Just installed on my Aya2 (6800U). Mostly just works :) However, I keep accidentally turning the wifi off. The wifi toggle is the first thing in the list and is immediately select, so if you are moving the stick to figure out where you are at, the wifi gets toggled. My only other issue is that the mouse emulation doesn't automatically turn off in games like AyaSpace.
ROG ALLY: Setting control mode to Windows mode lets you have full freedom of Wattage up to 60w. The only thing missing in that mode is fan control. This is almost super useful, but without fan controll, the fans stay at 20% even at 85c. I hope they add fan control. ASUS power management is a stuttery mess and I would love to fully circumvent it.
Have you try to setup your own curve with G helper on a custom power profile? I'm not sure how AC will react tho. I think all the power user tools are conflicting with windows' priority system ATM... It's hard to get a good custom experience on the device. if only Asus could have done good work and integrate all of these functions OTB in AC...
Did you disabled armory crate for testing this tool? Or disabled the quick tools from armory crate? I tried an another tools but they keep crashing with armory running in the background.
So doing this and setting the FPS to 60 and watts to 18 locks it at 6w. Gpu usage drops to 0% and cpu is around 10% at a speed of 700. Disabling those options then changes nothing and I have to restart. Does it every single time.
The thing that i think isnt being clarified when it comes to the chit chat regarding gaming handhelds is that its a matter of convenience and that the majority of 'mobile' circumstances will actually have access to power...and what gaming handhelds should actually be emphasing is plugged in performance with workable battery performance being secondary. The most intensive computing for consumer use is gaming...even video rendering is simply a matter of waiting a little while which for almost everyone should never be issue.
Igpu statsuc clock is broken. If you turn it on, you cant turn it off. Be double sure that the app isnt set to open on boot otherwise you might beock your device
I think Handheld Companion should do a better job at that, since this doesn't have controller configuration but Handheld Companion does. Though I can't say for sure since I don't have an x86 handheld.
There's nothing for GPU scaling? Apparently that's needed, at least on the Steam Deck, to deal with those black screens when loading newly installed games...I have to remote into Team Viewer just to see the actual game scree and change the res so it shows up on my Deck.
The problem is I've just tried the software and now after removing the program my Rog Ally still stucked at the settings, is there any way to reset to defaults?
I installed the program yesterday after seeing the video about it. It worked fine but when I didn't use my Azus for 6 hours it started to have issues. I tried to use it right now but it freezes then goes back to normal then the screen goes black and shuts down. I'm not sure what to do to fix this
can this software be used to Desktops? Cause it seems so easy to use RTSS and its very useful to have access to all these options at Laptops/Desktops too!
does power limit work with rog ally original charger while in docking mode? because im mostly using it in docking mode , and while in docking mode max tdp i can get is 25w
Hey dude cool video. Im just looking for info to buy or pass? Are you experiencing any crash or freezes? Does these tips and tricks help? Thanks in advance
What adjustments are needed for WWE2K23 I get a lot of stuttering on my Ally. Please help me fix this thank you so much as an Ally owner you’re content has helped me more and more.
How do you completely get rid of this? I made the terrible mistake of lowering my apu wattage to 15 watts and now can’t reopen. Even after reinstalling and using armory crates turbo mode, I’m stuck in 15 watts and hope I didn’t just brick my device
Tried this on my ally and even without adjusting anything it made my ally very slow. Also it limited my apu at about 800mhz. Had to delete it and restart the device
@@Jason5818UI infinitely better, I don't even have AC installed. It has game profiles, autotdp (the power is adjusted on the fly for the target framerate, pure bliss) and a lot of nice options. The only thing missing is rgb control (it stays on the default rainbow lights). Also, the updates are coming very fast, a lot of bugs were fixed quickly.
Cool tool, but i saw that you are not using the "Auto" preset for the Video Memory, why not ? i have heared that that will improve performance slightly
I tried Auto and was getting terrible performance in games like CyberPunk2077 and Halo MCC. Setting 4GB improved performance quite a bit. Setting 8GB didn’t improve average, but drastically helped with stuttering in game from 0.1% lows.
so is this being used INSTEAD of armory crate? or is it being used WITH armory crate?. If so, how do you have AC set up when it comes to power profile and what not? what abot conflicts? like AC is running the silent profile (10 watts) and this tool is at 30, whats happpens? whos settings actually take priority?
You channel is becoming more and more important for Ally owners. Thanks ETA Prime.
I hope he sees this and does more expimental videos
Godsend ETA Prime
right
I remember the days of finding ETA when I was trying to figure out how to set up RetroPie years ago :)
Wow didn’t know they had this software. Keep these updates coming for the Ally
This program is going to change the rog ally scene so much. Ive only tested with only 6 cores and the gpu seems to ramp up a bit better in starfield. Pretty happy so far :)
You might want to mention that in Armory Crate to set AC to the windows power management option. If you don't AC and UTU will fight over power management.
Idk how to use this. AC still somehow overrides anything I do in UTU.
@melxb AC= Armoury Crate, UTU=Universal Tuning Utility
What do you use for fan curve ?
This what do you use for fan curve
We need benchmarks! I wonder if that clock/power limit can truly push the APU harder than the built-in options.
Yep, really want to see a video on that.
This is great to know! Appreciate for sharing this to the handheld gaming community- more specifically the ASUS ROG Ally
Thanks for sharing. This is gonna be fun to mess around with to get the most out of the ROG Ally. Such a great handheld. This is really gonna make it my go to handheld.
Just got my Rog ally, and loving it!!
Why didnt Asus make software like this on release
I've pre-ordered the 2023 GPD WinMax2. Something like this will come in handy.
But it's missing the most important function....the auto tdp, after that,it's a very nice program for the handhelds🔥
Might also be worth mentioning that the fps limiter only works for exclusive full screen, if the game only supports fullscreen (windowed) you’re out of luck
wtf why is that
What about MSI afterburner, does the limiter works with it and RivaTuner?
so whats stopping you doing the same thing via the armory, set it at 28 W custom profile , and then set the FPS. I get that the armory you have to make custom profiles to do it, vs just do it on the fly i guess thats the only positive
Love these armory crate/ayaspace alternative videos!
Wish AC would have an option to disable CPU cores, change max CPU/GPU clock and autotdp.
Can you PLEASE look into using G-helper in conjunction with Handheld Companion as a total replacement to Armoury Crate??
Not sure if its because of my latest update but LB+RB+D pad up doesn't bring up the overlay.
Great review. It's amazing that a handheld is now as powerful as gaming laptops.
For the Ally, would this conflict with the build in applications like Command Center, MyAsus and Armoury Crate?
You can put Armory into a mode that let's windows control the power management. When you do that it will let the other program control all that.
I'm using alongside the manual mode in armory crate for fan control.
Looks like manual mode won't allow the app to take control of power management. Windows mode won't allow fan control so you'll always get thermal throttled. Basically useless at this point
@onsh it works for me . Using manual mode for fan control and x86 handled the rest. Only issue was gpu freq stays at what you set as until a reboot. Besides Asus put out a new fan curve for turbo mode so it's not like it's much of a issue anymore
In my country pre-order start 27 june, and i can't wait to get mine on september..
But why the long wait.. Watching your video will prep me well when i get my hands on
I installed it but the hotkeys to open and close the app on the fly dont work and i have to close it and reopen from desktop each time to use it
Could there be conflicts with the Crate app? Hopefully works better when out of beta.
Love the videos, been on the channel since 2017 for the early launch box days. Can you do an ULTIMATE setup with a custom windows like Tiny or Ghost(prefer ghost lol), handheld control panel, utu and big box? I think that would apply to ALL handhelds and would really give people who aren't PC savvy a step by step guide on how to get the MOST console like experience out of their handheld. Love ya again, keep up the great work!
Does the temperature limit only downclock or does it adjust fan speeds?
ETA prime, I live in North Carolina as well so shouts out to you. Could you please make a video of what equipment you would use to start off a youtube channel? Maybe even do the equipment on tiers? A video on how you would go about it if you had to start over again or how the process works to create content?
I downloaded the utility its not working the way it did for you I had to use the right joystick as the mouse the d pad just allowed me to see more options how do you change the color from black and white letters
This is sick. Just the RivaTuner quick access is worth it alone as I'm not really happy with Asus' own FPS limiter since it doesn't function unless it's set before you open a game.
Is adaptive fps like auto-tdp feature in handheld companion?
Adaptive FPS works like Radeon Chill (but works properly with controller input), so when no user input is detected, the minimum FPS value is set, and when user input is detected, the max FPS limit will be applied.
I found it useful to save power with instances where high FPS isn’t needed, so I added it to the application.
Do we have to disable armory crate, because I feel that this might cause issues if both apps are operating.
Man! This is extremely helpful! Thanks brother
Could you make a video using it on the Deck and let us know how it perform/work there?
Can this work on laptops? Because this will be a very nice tool for gaming laptops.
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It works, at least some of settings.
they have other tools for ryzen based laptops iirc
Have you ever heard of a desktop-only program or a laptop only program?
Thank you for this. Gonna download it now!
man this device is attracts me more than the steamdeck and i own a deck already. the fact that you can do windows and install other windows games and apps is just appetizing to me. with the deck i have linux but i dislike it alot. i should have waited up instead of buying my deck.
only if installing windows were easy on my deck i would do it in a heartbeat but too bad that you need to install drivers and what have you as well while with the ally its all pre installed. you just need to upgrade your software.
I'm running windows on my steam deck and it works very well.
Istalling windows on deck is easy, fast and stupid.
Do it! It's a really decent product.
Actually depending on how you use your Windows the Ally's Windows 11 is quite painful...
I have both steam deck and ROG Ally , if I would need to pick only one I would choose the Steam Deck , the fact that you have a native 800p screen helps much more for the games I play to feel smooth even if I have to limit the FPS , on Windows the FPS limit does not really work as on Steam deck and for exmemple I have much better time with Snowrunner on Steam Deck with battery over 3 hours , compared to unstable performance on windwos on ROG Ally and only max 90 minutes maybe
Just installed on my Aya2 (6800U). Mostly just works :)
However, I keep accidentally turning the wifi off. The wifi toggle is the first thing in the list and is immediately select, so if you are moving the stick to figure out where you are at, the wifi gets toggled.
My only other issue is that the mouse emulation doesn't automatically turn off in games like AyaSpace.
ROG ALLY: Setting control mode to Windows mode lets you have full freedom of Wattage up to 60w. The only thing missing in that mode is fan control. This is almost super useful, but without fan controll, the fans stay at 20% even at 85c. I hope they add fan control. ASUS power management is a stuttery mess and I would love to fully circumvent it.
Have you try to setup your own curve with G helper on a custom power profile? I'm not sure how AC will react tho.
I think all the power user tools are conflicting with windows' priority system ATM... It's hard to get a good custom experience on the device. if only Asus could have done good work and integrate all of these functions OTB in AC...
how to to that
Did you disabled armory crate for testing this tool? Or disabled the quick tools from armory crate? I tried an another tools but they keep crashing with armory running in the background.
What about the fans? Would you recommend setting a customer fan curve in AC then use this to change the power and stuff
So doing this and setting the FPS to 60 and watts to 18 locks it at 6w. Gpu usage drops to 0% and cpu is around 10% at a speed of 700. Disabling those options then changes nothing and I have to restart. Does it every single time.
Which is better, this or Project SBC you showed a couple of months ago?
What about AutoTDP?
The thing that i think isnt being clarified when it comes to the chit chat regarding gaming handhelds is that its a matter of convenience and that the majority of 'mobile' circumstances will actually have access to power...and what gaming handhelds should actually be emphasing is plugged in performance with workable battery performance being secondary. The most intensive computing for consumer use is gaming...even video rendering is simply a matter of waiting a little while which for almost everyone should never be issue.
is it safe to increase the tdp to 45 watts with high gpu frequency
Igpu statsuc clock is broken. If you turn it on, you cant turn it off. Be double sure that the app isnt set to open on boot otherwise you might beock your device
Would this be a replacement for Armoury Crate?
I think Handheld Companion should do a better job at that, since this doesn't have controller configuration but Handheld Companion does. Though I can't say for sure since I don't have an x86 handheld.
@@SamuelDoesThings2011 if only handheld companion allowed for fan speed adjustment..
@@iNfLune5 it does now bro well atleast the patreon version does
@@itsisme1993 rip it's still greyed out despite using Patreon build
@@iNfLune5 oh that's annoying hopefully it works soon :)
There's nothing for GPU scaling? Apparently that's needed, at least on the Steam Deck, to deal with those black screens when loading newly installed games...I have to remote into Team Viewer just to see the actual game scree and change the res so it shows up on my Deck.
how did he make the info on the top let appear like that? which program you use?
The problem is I've just tried the software and now after removing the program my Rog Ally still stucked at the settings, is there any way to reset to defaults?
I installed the program yesterday after seeing the video about it. It worked fine but when I didn't use my Azus for 6 hours it started to have issues. I tried to use it right now but it freezes then goes back to normal then the screen goes black and shuts down. I'm not sure what to do to fix this
How does it clash with Amoury Crate? Does it save the settings per game or do you have to change for every game?
Its will be dangerous for the Z1 extrem to go up to 30w no? Can you try 35watt maybe?
can this software be used to Desktops? Cause it seems so easy to use RTSS and its very useful to have access to all these options at Laptops/Desktops too!
Seems like there is, go to all his repositories and there is one without handheld in the name
Hope the next update will bring per configuration for each games/software.
does power limit work with rog ally original charger while in docking mode?
because im mostly using it in docking mode , and while in docking mode max tdp i can get is 25w
just what i was looking for
Hey dude cool video. Im just looking for info to buy or pass? Are you experiencing any crash or freezes? Does these tips and tricks help? Thanks in advance
can you use this to force jedi survivor to run at 60 fps on the rog ally ^^
Is there any way to save settings per game? Or save different profile names so we can save as game profiles.
What adjustments are needed for WWE2K23 I get a lot of stuttering on my Ally. Please help me fix this thank you so much as an Ally owner you’re content has helped me more and more.
for some reason mine wont open even with everything installed. my program just hangs.
help please!
I tried installing beta 9 right now but GUI doesn't seem to work for me, dunno why
Question:
Will it conflict with amoury crate when the two are open at the same time?
Can you do a video on handheld companion too?
Will 28 watts fry my sd card? I already ruined one sadly and want the sweet spot between performance at 60 and having that available storage
Which one is better? This or handheld companion?
HC
Does this override the stock tools? My fans seem to run right, just wondering about the tdp and RSR
Awesome.........
But when it's running in the background I loose access to my controller in-game
Man I don’t know what happened but the ally won’t run games now and I get a message about the gpu nothing runs fast if at all I don’t understand
Tried this over hc and I went back to hc. This software raised my draw to 23w where hc is drawing 13. This was diablo 4. 60fpd
Can you figure out how to fix the sd sandisk problem?😊
Thank you for the great videos.
Using my D pad dosent navigate in this tool also my buttons does not close the tuning app either smh
How do you completely get rid of this? I made the terrible mistake of lowering my apu wattage to 15 watts and now can’t reopen. Even after reinstalling and using armory crates turbo mode, I’m stuck in 15 watts and hope I didn’t just brick my device
@ricksanchez7250 nah I fixed it, bios reset lol
so do i get rid of armory crates built in will the softwares clash?
Are the settings per game or in general?
Thanks for the link!
Thanks JamesCJ60 😩😩😩
how do you turn on or off that display performance overlay?
What settings would you set every setting too for Diablo 4
Bro hello can u please tell ne can I connect my galaxy z flip 3 to TV via type c to hdmi to play games
Is there a way to force the apu to stay at a constant 42 watts with this?
It Doesn't quite work on mine 🤷
No core or cpu frequency limitation...
which version of firmware this Ally has where you try this tool on ?
How are you able to manage Jedi Survivor on the Ally?
Is there an auto button for people that just want it to run smooth and have better battery performance
Wow nice it's even better than armory crate. But it can't set up fans.
Tried this on my ally and even without adjusting anything it made my ally very slow. Also it limited my apu at about 800mhz. Had to delete it and restart the device
Not opening when pressing the LB + RB + Dpad up.
Why not Handheld Companion? it has many other options, like enabling gyro feature
What is handheld companion...is it better than AC?
Tried it. It's pretty buggy. The overlay would just be blank many times.
@@Jason5818UI infinitely better, I don't even have AC installed. It has game profiles, autotdp (the power is adjusted on the fly for the target framerate, pure bliss) and a lot of nice options. The only thing missing is rgb control (it stays on the default rainbow lights).
Also, the updates are coming very fast, a lot of bugs were fixed quickly.
@@desertbum8 did you try recently? The fixes come fast
I tried this on the Rog ally and even when not setting anything on it limited the gpu watts to 12 making everything run like crap :x
any conflict with armory crate? is this better compared to armory crate?
I've asked as well. Seems there would be conflicts with AC.
after removed the software my rog ally still stuck at 20w at 15w performance mode
Will this help with possible thermal throttling issues?
I tried everything but the rog ally does not want to go over 30 W
Cool tool, but i saw that you are not using the "Auto" preset for the Video Memory, why not ? i have heared that that will improve performance slightly
Auto gives you issues in some games for example diablo 4 will run terrible when set to auto 4gb seems to be the sweet spot
I set mine to auto most of my games run alot better. I'm still on the old bios
I tried Auto and was getting terrible performance in games like CyberPunk2077 and Halo MCC. Setting 4GB improved performance quite a bit. Setting 8GB didn’t improve average, but drastically helped with stuttering in game from 0.1% lows.
The default 4gb is the best overall setting, don’t fall for the hype
Just missing fan controls and it would make this a 10/10 app.
I'm sure we'll see it in time though.
RAM usage of these tools would be good to know.
so is this being used INSTEAD of armory crate?
or is it being used WITH armory crate?.
If so, how do you have AC set up when it comes to power profile and what not? what abot conflicts? like AC is running the silent profile (10 watts) and this tool is at 30, whats happpens?
whos settings actually take priority?
Good luck getting an answer from ETA. LOL
Was a glitchy unusable mess for me. Maybe it'll get better in the future but handheld companion functions way better for me
Same, my Ally would hang immediately once UTUH loaded for no apparent reason
After the new bios update my ally will shut down when i try to Start This app
Extremely buggy and keeps turning my wifi off. performance tanked. Anyone got some settings advice for destiny 2 optimization?
Really confusing. There's handheld companion, control center companion, and now this. I don't which one to use lol.