I've always known that there was something different with me, that made me function a different way than others, but I could never really pinpoint it. I recently developed some obsessions and compulsions that made me initially suspect that I had OCD, and after all the cases that I've seen/read about, no one was really quite relatable, and while digging more into my research about it, I've came across OCPD, and from the first time, it felt so relatable! This is still self-diagnosis and I can be totally off, but this has certainly given me a lead, and after a horrible day of obsessing about a pretty small detail and thinking of ways to fix it, this discovery has made my day end on a happy note!
Tossing projects in the bin has been my entire life- I never felt like anything was good enough even if it was good or to other peoples standards, it had to be my standard. I typically shut down when my things are moved or changed. I was broken up with during Covid and my ex told me he would pack my things and drop them off to me, I flipped out. Not because I was being dumped but because I couldn’t get my own things. Ugh, that and the change of my surrounding being out of my control. My therapist suggested I might have ocpd, and this really resonated with me. Thanks for this video.
After years I finally looked into the note on my medical record for decades that was OCP. I have PTSD and didn't know what OCPD was and of course we deny that we are the problem. Then I counted up all the times I was asked to leave places because I demanded I was right, was triggered by being called a liar (which is like being told we are wrong) and I stopped counting at 30. I noticed I judged everyone, noticed their faults, and thought they would be better if I told them, fixed them. I started looking at what I could and couldn't or wouldn't do and learned to work around those things. Every ex told me I was controlling, I couldn't see it. There is no cure, but we can notice when we do those things and just stop it. Look into a mirror and say out loud "I'm sorry I was wrong" until you can say it even if you are not wrong. That alone will change your life and improve your relationships.
Have you found those with OCPD constantly job hop due to no job feeling good enough for them or meeting their standards of perfection? They always find endless problems with coworkers slacking off, bad management, etc.?
For more than a year I have thought that I have depression for 5 years. A few weeks ago I found that I have ADHD and that it is the cause of my depression. But I understood all of that from the internet. Yesterday, I finally had the courage to go to a therapist to get help for my ADHD. Then, he told me that I don't have ADHD or depression. I just had OCPD and that is what makes me suffer.
Hi Eden. I just diognised with OCPD 1 week go. Your videos helped me to get first understand of OCPD does, you inspired me to put efforts go therapist and care the problem. I am 30 year old and depite hard working, helthy life stile and good habbits all my plans just ruined sever times in my live, you told you also had same expierience. You awesome, keep make more videos, you maybe just lighthouse for thouthand of thouthands. I live in Jerusalem, Israel
Undiagnosed and suppressing much of it because of bullying increased my anxiety exponentially and that led to being diagnosed. Being do was so freeing.
This kind of video is great. Thank you. I expect more. They will help people to identify the symptoms of OCPD, especially for the one who has OCPD but is reluctant to accept it.
Yikes! Yeah following someone around adjusting after something was moved and adjusting for anxiety reduction its all me and probably should be done later, but also takes work and maybe they only looked, and so did I, and it was dusty. Throwing stuff out this one is selective, usually a memory is bound to it, and might need an upgrade/replacement. But ultimately if it is trash, its gone. I spoke to someone who would take a picture of certain memory bound objects and then discard them. Take Care, L.L.
I'm still on the waiting list for therapy and now that I know what's going on, I don't really know what to do anymore, because I don't know what's ocpd and what's not anymore... any tips on what's best to do in this situation? I don't want to enable my ocpd any further, but now I'm litteraly doing nothing. Is there anything you found that's not ocpd that one can cling onto?
It's very difficult to live with the awareness that you have these kinds of behaviours, but don't know what to do about them. I'm really sad that we've both experienced this :( When we know we're starting to slip into an old pattern of destructive behaviour, we can use mindfulness to distance ourselves from what's going on and take a more logical, unbiased approach to the situation. We can also journal, this gets a lot of those annoying thoughts out of our heads and can sometimes be useful in problem solving. I've also been told that finding an outlet for our creativity is useful in keeping our brains occupied when we're worried we're not doing enough, especially if it's a hobby that we know really well and love. I wish I could give you the magic answer to solve everything, but I haven't found it yet either :( Good luck and I wish you all the best!
@@EdenV Thank you! I did body scans for the last 3 days because of your advice and it really really helped! sometimes it's like going to the gym; you never feel like it, but it always feels good afterwards haha. My anxiety tummy went away on the first time and it made me do some more chores in the house! It's not groundbreaking, but it's better than unhappily browsing the internet (which is wat I most often do) Thanks for the tips! :D all the best to you to! Groetjes from The Netherlands😄
@@GreasyBaconMan I don't know if they know. To my knowledge, neither one has ever seen a psychiatrist for this diagnosis. Over a month ago I read someone's comment saying (s)he had OCPD, interested, I looked it up and was shocked, to say the least. I've been with my husband for 36 years. The first half of that time was hell until I had set a very firm boundary twice. The second time was his reality that he would suffer big consequence's if he did not work on himself to make the necessary change if he wanted to remain married. That part of his behavior was not OCPD related, other than taking his controlling behavior to the unacceptable level. His OCPD traits I have learned to accept and live with.
@@GreasyBaconMan I started counseling for myself over a month ago because of extended toxic family members that had really gotten to me. It's impossible for me to be mean or set boundaries with them, especially my dad, I am realizing why that is. I am in counseling to unwrap my childhood abuse and trauma's and figure out how to deal with them and take control while preserving my mental sanity.
I didn't find out about OCPD until I got PTSD diagnosis and treatment, so maybe. PTSD has lots of "safety behaviours" which share a lot of common ground with OCD and/or OCPD in my experience.
Just subscribed :) I'm still very new to this. Questions: 1) Is OCPD 100% caused by childhood trauma/issues/neglects/lacks? Is it highly possible that the individual also display some, if not all of the Narcissistic traits? 2) As the condition worsens with age, how likely is an elderly person of just over 60 willing to get help? Thank you.
I can't answer most of these questions, but as someone who was in a relationship with someone who likely has OCPD and also had a close person with narcissism I can tell you that there is a huge difference between narcissism and OCPD traits. They do seem to be somewhat similar though, as there is a level of control and anger, but the reasons for this are very different. An OCPD person doesn't intentionally manipulate people psychologically, if so, it's unintentional, and the level of control is different too, as they can be quite empathic about it. An OCPD person would encourage and support others to run on the same schedule and have the same values and life goals as the OCPD person, seeing it as a benefit for them, while narcissists only think about themselves and want others to be inferior. So there is control, but the reasons and motivations behind this control are very different and the control of an OCPD person is much more benevolently expressed. The same is true with reactions in case others set boundaries against that control. On the one hand, it might look like it's similar, as both react negatively and angrily to resistance against their control, but the anger of an OCPD person is harming themselves just as much as it harms others, while a narcissist will very specifically punish you for resisting them and instill fear in you. A narcissist will refuse to believe that they are at fault at all, while an OCPD person is capable of understanding it, while they are often having a hard time accepting that their level of control is unhealthy to others and not beneficial to them, as they might think. So once again, OCPD people tend to harm others unintentionally by not being aware that their controlling behavior harms others instead of helping them, while a narcissist will intentionally keep you down for the sake of upholding control. It might look similar at a first glance, but they are also different and OCPD people are certainly also bringing a few things onto the table that can be beneficial to a relationship, while narcissists will always harm you in any circumstances and they most likely refuse to change or accept blame for anything.
@@lupen_reinso well put. I was scared of having narcissistic traits after being diagnosed with ADHD in my mid 30's. My psychiatrist said no, but his explanation didn't sit well with me because he didn't adress my at the time undiagnosed OCPD traits. I'm currently getting an OCPD and ASD assement and understand that I do not have narcissistic traits at all.
I believe my mother and mother in law have it! My mother in law is hyper sensitive, so maybe I think it could go both ways more than likely she would appreciate it. She has said, she knows she’s different.
I started shaking and crying at this restaurant bc the whole table felt off. the wall was too close, my plate felt uneven (it wasn't lol), there were napkins and trash everywhere, I couldn't\'t find a good spot for my basket of fries, etc, etc. writing about it makes me jittery lol. This whole episode started when we were talking about my brother. I was so mad at him for choosing his gfs dumb soccer game over our moms bday diner. again I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. anyways this anger got my nerves all shot and caused this episode. I couldn't explain to my mom what was wrong bc there wasn't anything wrong yet I wasn't crying for nothing. I said idk I think I odd, autistic or something. I said that as a joke, and she quickly said I wasn't. She just flat-out said it's OCPD. it's hereditary and she has it. 1st ive heard of this. This knowledge explains me so much im stunned. Anyways I was diagnosed with add when I was little and that was it. she won't get me diagnosed with ocpd bc she doesn't want it to follow me around. my dad knows several ppl that can't get their pilot's license or join the army bc they r add alone. He was lucky bc back in the day everything is on paper so he is able to do things like join the army and be a pilot. I feel like the only way to get help and fix me is if im diagnosed. I just want definite answers
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I've always known that there was something different with me, that made me function a different way than others, but I could never really pinpoint it. I recently developed some obsessions and compulsions that made me initially suspect that I had OCD, and after all the cases that I've seen/read about, no one was really quite relatable, and while digging more into my research about it, I've came across OCPD, and from the first time, it felt so relatable!
This is still self-diagnosis and I can be totally off, but this has certainly given me a lead, and after a horrible day of obsessing about a pretty small detail and thinking of ways to fix it, this discovery has made my day end on a happy note!
Tossing projects in the bin has been my entire life- I never felt like anything was good enough even if it was good or to other peoples standards, it had to be my standard. I typically shut down when my things are moved or changed. I was broken up with during Covid and my ex told me he would pack my things and drop them off to me, I flipped out. Not because I was being dumped but because I couldn’t get my own things. Ugh, that and the change of my surrounding being out of my control. My therapist suggested I might have ocpd, and this really resonated with me. Thanks for this video.
After years I finally looked into the note on my medical record for decades that was OCP. I have PTSD and didn't know what OCPD was and of course we deny that we are the problem. Then I counted up all the times I was asked to leave places because I demanded I was right, was triggered by being called a liar (which is like being told we are wrong) and I stopped counting at 30. I noticed I judged everyone, noticed their faults, and thought they would be better if I told them, fixed them. I started looking at what I could and couldn't or wouldn't do and learned to work around those things. Every ex told me I was controlling, I couldn't see it. There is no cure, but we can notice when we do those things and just stop it. Look into a mirror and say out loud "I'm sorry I was wrong" until you can say it even if you are not wrong. That alone will change your life and improve your relationships.
Have you found those with OCPD constantly job hop due to no job feeling good enough for them or meeting their standards of perfection? They always find endless problems with coworkers slacking off, bad management, etc.?
By the way its amazing intro of yours: "Hi I'm Eden, How re you? I'm good, thank you for asking" it just such sweet :)
For more than a year I have thought that I have depression for 5 years. A few weeks ago I found that I have ADHD and that it is the cause of my depression. But I understood all of that from the internet. Yesterday, I finally had the courage to go to a therapist to get help for my ADHD. Then, he told me that I don't have ADHD or depression. I just had OCPD and that is what makes me suffer.
Hi Eden. I just diognised with OCPD 1 week go.
Your videos helped me to get first understand of OCPD does,
you inspired me to put efforts go therapist and care the problem.
I am 30 year old and depite hard working, helthy life stile and good habbits
all my plans just ruined sever times in my live, you told you also had same expierience.
You awesome, keep make more videos, you maybe just lighthouse for thouthand of thouthands.
I live in Jerusalem, Israel
Undiagnosed and suppressing much of it because of bullying increased my anxiety exponentially and that led to being diagnosed. Being do was so freeing.
This kind of video is great. Thank you. I expect more. They will help people to identify the symptoms of OCPD, especially for the one who has OCPD but is reluctant to accept it.
Thanks a lot
Yikes!
Yeah following someone around adjusting after something was moved and adjusting for anxiety reduction its all me and probably should be done later, but also takes work and maybe they only looked, and so did I, and it was dusty.
Throwing stuff out this one is selective, usually a memory is bound to it, and might need an upgrade/replacement. But ultimately if it is trash, its gone. I spoke to someone who would take a picture of certain memory bound objects and then discard them.
Take Care, L.L.
Thank you 😊
thank you for over explaining i didn't understood it at first
I hear a lot of people talk about COPD and their jobs/careers, but nothing about household responsibilities.
I'm still on the waiting list for therapy and now that I know what's going on, I don't really know what to do anymore, because I don't know what's ocpd and what's not anymore... any tips on what's best to do in this situation? I don't want to enable my ocpd any further, but now I'm litteraly doing nothing. Is there anything you found that's not ocpd that one can cling onto?
It's very difficult to live with the awareness that you have these kinds of behaviours, but don't know what to do about them. I'm really sad that we've both experienced this :( When we know we're starting to slip into an old pattern of destructive behaviour, we can use mindfulness to distance ourselves from what's going on and take a more logical, unbiased approach to the situation. We can also journal, this gets a lot of those annoying thoughts out of our heads and can sometimes be useful in problem solving. I've also been told that finding an outlet for our creativity is useful in keeping our brains occupied when we're worried we're not doing enough, especially if it's a hobby that we know really well and love. I wish I could give you the magic answer to solve everything, but I haven't found it yet either :( Good luck and I wish you all the best!
@@EdenV Thank you! I did body scans for the last 3 days because of your advice and it really really helped! sometimes it's like going to the gym; you never feel like it, but it always feels good afterwards haha. My anxiety tummy went away on the first time and it made me do some more chores in the house! It's not groundbreaking, but it's better than unhappily browsing the internet (which is wat I most often do) Thanks for the tips! :D all the best to you to! Groetjes from The Netherlands😄
Hi, Eden! How to deal with a coworker with undiagnosed OCPD? Please, help.
Ask them if they've heard of OCPD, if they say no, why do you ask, say you have a strong feeling they may have it and refer them to this channel.
yep I SUCK majorly suck at change...but getting slightly better.
Did you quit working at your website & email? I sent you an email, but it says it doesn't exist anymore.
This is my husband and his dad. I can't believe their entire lives is actually a personality disorder.
Does your husband and dad know? How do you orient through life around them? 🙏
@@GreasyBaconMan I don't know if they know. To my knowledge, neither one has ever seen a psychiatrist for this diagnosis. Over a month ago I read someone's comment saying (s)he had OCPD, interested, I looked it up and was shocked, to say the least.
I've been with my husband for 36 years. The first half of that time was hell until I had set a very firm boundary twice. The second time was his reality that he would suffer big consequence's if he did not work on himself to make the necessary change if he wanted to remain married. That part of his behavior was not OCPD related, other than taking his controlling behavior to the unacceptable level. His OCPD traits I have learned to accept and live with.
@@GreasyBaconMan I started counseling for myself over a month ago because of extended toxic family members that had really gotten to me. It's impossible for me to be mean or set boundaries with them, especially my dad, I am realizing why that is. I am in counseling to unwrap my childhood abuse and trauma's and figure out how to deal with them and take control while preserving my mental sanity.
Does PTSD trigger OCPD?
I didn't find out about OCPD until I got PTSD diagnosis and treatment, so maybe.
PTSD has lots of "safety behaviours" which share a lot of common ground with OCD and/or OCPD in my experience.
Just subscribed :) I'm still very new to this. Questions: 1) Is OCPD 100% caused by childhood trauma/issues/neglects/lacks? Is it highly possible that the individual also display some, if not all of the Narcissistic traits? 2) As the condition worsens with age, how likely is an elderly person of just over 60 willing to get help? Thank you.
I can't answer most of these questions, but as someone who was in a relationship with someone who likely has OCPD and also had a close person with narcissism I can tell you that there is a huge difference between narcissism and OCPD traits. They do seem to be somewhat similar though, as there is a level of control and anger, but the reasons for this are very different.
An OCPD person doesn't intentionally manipulate people psychologically, if so, it's unintentional, and the level of control is different too, as they can be quite empathic about it. An OCPD person would encourage and support others to run on the same schedule and have the same values and life goals as the OCPD person, seeing it as a benefit for them, while narcissists only think about themselves and want others to be inferior. So there is control, but the reasons and motivations behind this control are very different and the control of an OCPD person is much more benevolently expressed.
The same is true with reactions in case others set boundaries against that control. On the one hand, it might look like it's similar, as both react negatively and angrily to resistance against their control, but the anger of an OCPD person is harming themselves just as much as it harms others, while a narcissist will very specifically punish you for resisting them and instill fear in you. A narcissist will refuse to believe that they are at fault at all, while an OCPD person is capable of understanding it, while they are often having a hard time accepting that their level of control is unhealthy to others and not beneficial to them, as they might think.
So once again, OCPD people tend to harm others unintentionally by not being aware that their controlling behavior harms others instead of helping them, while a narcissist will intentionally keep you down for the sake of upholding control. It might look similar at a first glance, but they are also different and OCPD people are certainly also bringing a few things onto the table that can be beneficial to a relationship, while narcissists will always harm you in any circumstances and they most likely refuse to change or accept blame for anything.
@@lupen_reinso well put. I was scared of having narcissistic traits after being diagnosed with ADHD in my mid 30's. My psychiatrist said no, but his explanation didn't sit well with me because he didn't adress my at the time undiagnosed OCPD traits. I'm currently getting an OCPD and ASD assement and understand that I do not have narcissistic traits at all.
It’s equally as awful 😞 to live with someone who has ocpd…….just saying 🙄, especially when that person lives in a fantasy world 🌎
How do you think someone with undiagnosed ocpd would react if they were told by a co-worker they may have this disorder?
I believe my mother and mother in law have it! My mother in law is hyper sensitive, so maybe I think it could go both ways more than likely she would appreciate it. She has said, she knows she’s different.
IF ITS UNDIAGNOSED, HOW DO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE IT? OR HAVE YOU DIAGNOSED YOURSELF ?
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I started shaking and crying at this restaurant bc the whole table felt off. the wall was too close, my plate felt uneven (it wasn't lol), there were napkins and trash everywhere, I couldn't\'t find a good spot for my basket of fries, etc, etc. writing about it makes me jittery lol. This whole episode started when we were talking about my brother. I was so mad at him for choosing his gfs dumb soccer game over our moms bday diner. again I'm getting pissed just thinking about it. anyways this anger got my nerves all shot and caused this episode. I couldn't explain to my mom what was wrong bc there wasn't anything wrong yet I wasn't crying for nothing. I said idk I think I odd, autistic or something. I said that as a joke, and she quickly said I wasn't. She just flat-out said it's OCPD. it's hereditary and she has it. 1st ive heard of this. This knowledge explains me so much im stunned. Anyways I was diagnosed with add when I was little and that was it. she won't get me diagnosed with ocpd bc she doesn't want it to follow me around. my dad knows several ppl that can't get their pilot's license or join the army bc they r add alone. He was lucky bc back in the day everything is on paper so he is able to do things like join the army and be a pilot. I feel like the only way to get help and fix me is if im diagnosed. I just want definite answers
Takes note cuz psychological help is too expensive
Hi, Eden! I sent you an email, can you please check?
PLEASE stop editing so much!!! It is actually ok to have separation between sentences!!!!
It’s the ADHD part… but I understand what you mean