Charles Manson: Myth and Reality with Nikolas Schreck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2022
- From the desert planes of Spahn Ranch, to the glittering hills of Hollywood and beyond, the myth of Charles Manson has endured…but is any of it actually true? Our returning guest Nikolas Schreck doesn’t think so!
This week we discuss: Why does the general population so easily believe in official narratives?, what do Timothy Leary and British occultism have to do with Charles Manson?, what really did happen at 10050 Cielo Drive? and much more.
Also, join Nikolas at the launch of the UK edition of his amazing book ‘The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman’ on the 22nd October, tickets available here
Joining me, and finally recovered from the deserts of time, returning co-host Sam Horn
Main theme by Simon Smerdon (Mothboy)
Music bed by chriszabriskie.com*
Nikolas Schreck Bio:
Nikolas Schreck is an American singer-songwriter, musician, author, film-maker and Tantric Buddhist religious teacher based in Berlin, Germany.
Now a solo artist, Schreck founded the musical magical recording and performance collective Radio Werewolf, which operated from 1984-1994, releasing seven albums. Schreck was also the lead singer of the musical duo Kingdom of Heaven whose album, XXIII, was released in April 2015. He collaborated musically with his former wife, American singer and musician Zeena Schreck, as well as Australian percussionist John Murphy, NON, Death in June, and the British actor Christopher Lee, whose first album Schreck conceived and produced.
As a solo artist, his song “Lord Sutekh’s Dream” was released by German record label The Epicurean in conjunction with Schreck’s May 28, 2016 concert at the Epicurean Escapism Festival in Berlin.
Since that concert, Schreck has recorded and performed with his band consisting of Winfried Strauss (keyboards), Ohnesorg (bass), and Heathen Rae (drums and percussion.) After a performance at Wave-Gotik-Treffen in Leipzig, noted as one of the best concerts at the WGT by German music site der Schwarze Welt, Schreck and his band released the vinyl EP The Futura Model on The Epicurean label. A monthly radio program, The Nikolas Schreck Show, premiered on Berlin’s Radio on October 31, 2017.
Schreck’s album The Illusionist was released by US label Records Ad Nauseam at an event held at Zebulon in Los Angeles on August 10, 2019.
His books include The Manson File: Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman (2011); Demons of the Flesh: The Complete Guide to Left Hand Path Sex Magic (2002), co-authored with Zeena; Flowers from Hell: A Satanic Reader (2001); The Satanic Screen: An Illustrated Guide to the Devil in Cinema, (2001); and the first edition of The Manson File (1988).
His film appearances include the 1989 documentary, Charles Manson Superstar, which he directed; Usher, the last film of Curtis Harrington; and Mortuary Academy. He teaches Tantric Buddhist meditation.
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Love Nikolas schreck❤
So do we!
Me too!!
@@barbarajohnson9050 me three, couldn’t resists the pun , sorry.
I could listen to this critical thinker all day. He has such a sense of balance with an absence of an agenda that is false. He strives to find the truth and you have a sense that any belief he has is amendable when further facts are revealed to him. He uses common sense and I definitely believe that the murders motive was not to free Bobby who was arrested August 6. His information is privy to someone like Schreck because he knows how to conduct himself with known criminals - he treats them as human beings and not as if they are evil incarnate. Manson definitely played up the reputation Bugliosi assigned to him. It gave him cred which is why Manson never snitched, he was a full head on criminal living by the criminal code.( just as a Magia member shows loyalty to fellow mafioses.
Really? This is an ex devout Satanist and hidden occultist. You think this guy isn't a disinfo agent and manipulator? Lmao give me a break. How this guy isnt in prison himself is a good question. He is a Manson apologist and an occult operative. He shrugs off so many strange situations with this case and the connections to serious dark characters as superstition. This is there game, to hide Truth and decieve the public. Manson was a true classic lunatic, because of his horrible childhood and then his heavy use of drugs. It splintered his mind, just the way mk ultra treatments can cause a person's personality to change. Manson was released on federal probation in the late 60s prior to the murders. For some shady reason he was allowed to stay on the street even though he was arrested many times leading up to the Tate crimes. He went and tried to settle a drug debt and shot a man. He then was said to have showed up at Gary hinmans house and slashed his face before they killed him. He was supposed to be in the house during the labianca killing. This was no peaceful misunderstood guy, this was a deranged criminal. Who was most likely the leader of a ragtag killer family. Yet this guy schrenk finds it hard to believe that they all are still in prison? After killing all those people, he can't figure out why they are being punished lmao? What a fraud. And there was said to have been more murders out in the desert during that summer, that were never talked about. These people were sick. Not to mention LSD was being tested on inmates all over the federal system at that time, go look up what it did to whitey bulger , he's a similar subject who went insane and was allowed to kill out on the streets of Boston for decades under FBI protection! Manson went to esalin facility in California. Esalin was known to have started the whole lsd trend in California. Tex Watson was Living in bungalows near Malibu with the head practicing doctor at esalin that was pushing the LSD treatment ideas before any of this happened. All these guys knew each other, that's a coincidence I guess lol? Not to mention how creepy polanski was and rosemary baby films and who he was probably connected too .who knows what actually this is about. Maybe a drug rip off like he said, but really let's be honest could be all of the above. Satanic killing, revenge hit, murder for hire, government operation, or something else. This guy is a cover up artist and always has been he's only spouting his one sided story pal
He just claims that "none of that was true". There was no MK Ultra, no CIA or government involved in destroying the hippie cultural revolution with drugs and so on. But he doesn't know for sure. He claims its all conspiracy theories and hysterical conspiracy theories and paranoid conspiracy theories!! That's just bullshit. He keeps saying he knows what really happened!? How? Was he a member of Mansons group? He only speculates.
very well said!
Fascinating episode, love this podcast. Thanks and happy Friday.
Tommy Cowan episode, pls!
Tommy Cowan? The musician?
@@sittingnow he writes about William S. Burrough's magical beliefs and such, fascinating character with whom you'd have a great chat :)
@@WoodwoseTransmissions Oh cool, I'll look him up.
Charlie, in one of his parole hearing documents that I read, once made some serious incriminating and lurid accusations against actress Jane Fonda. He was tied in to the Hollywood jet set party scene. albeit briefly; he knew things.
Hanoi Jane
@@MG-cd9ek grow up, she protested a war we had no business fighting , based on a psych- op , lie about our stationed troops being attacked.
@@lenwelch2195 she is a liberal hack same as you.
Always the best, thank you, for another excellent video interview.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesomeeeeeee
Schreck has one of the best books out there on the TLB case but damn, his minions screwed me out of a copy.
I ordered the new version of The Manson File over two years ago and got nothing but excuses, even after the Covid delays, from Sabine and J Nash. Then they just quit replying to my emails. Skanks couldn't even provide a tracking number!
Had same problem took my money and never replied to emails
the helter skelter / race war story was lifted wholesale from the Krishna Venta cult from 10 years prior
I get the murders were a drug deal gone wrong. What I don't get is why Charlie gets done for it. Like if Tex did the stabbings, why not just charge him? Sounds like someone wanted Charlie off the street. Or ranch. Only Bugliosi? Sorry haven't read the book
The whole thing is a giant media spectacle. They make an example out of Manson to send a message to the general public.
@@craigharrison1274yes I agreed. These hippie communities were very popular in 69. I think they pinned it on Charlie to try to put an end to these communes l. Nixon hated the hippie movement and he feared the spread of their ideas would lead to his demise.
thanks Nikolas for the sharing, i have a question, if this was just a simple drug dealing related killing, why those manson girls need to help covering it up for 50 more years in prison and some even bring it to their graves? whats the big deal to just admit it is only a drug dealing issue?? and how does it explain the labianca murder? thank you.
@@naoujiie this isn’t his channel. You’d be better served asking him this on his channel or via email or something.
37:40 Charles as a guru
01:02:09 Manson's spiritual philosophy
Spahn Ranch wasn’t on desert plain…it was built within a canyon in the Santa Suzanna Mountains. The Barker Ranch could be seen as existing upon a Desert Plain..
Just an observation made to the description of this podcast, no disrespect, just a factual correction.
I think one who conducted such thorough research would know something as simple as that.
Aleister Crowley was not a Satanist and genuine Occultism is not Satanic. Occultism is the study of hidden, obscured, or hidden knowledge.
Typo: Hidden, obscured, or secret knowledge
I think they put Manson on a pedestal as an evil murderous psychopath but I've always wondered why considering what he actually did compared to many real psychopaths and murderers who have committed far worse crimes. I think he was elevated to the cult status by several factions of society, a bit like in Britain Charles Bronson has been labelled Britain's most dangerous prisoner and parole boards never release him. They like making certain charismatic characters into monsters, it's easy if they are colourful characters who've been locked up and they can spin the story. But the public generally believe the headlines.
I knew a guy who looked just like Nikolas Schreck. His name was Ashlin Harland and he came from Gary Indiana.
That's really really interesting and reading your comment has changed my life for the better. Thanks Billy.
haha, maybe he's moonlighting in Gary?
I read Sharon Tate is actually in the party scene in R'sB
Sharon Tate did associate with Alex Sanders
mr schreck, curious what you might know about c.m. & his dianetics phase...or is there someplace in your youtube stuff where this is mentioned?
Probably best to ask specific questions on his channel.
okay, thanks, my bad, thought this was his channel.@@sittingnow
@@timgreenglass no worries.
I always said Perin's radio was a drug delivery box.
Steve Parent
Oh wow
Parents rather than Peron’s . I had the same exact clock radio I used more for an alarm to wake up for school and it’s about the size of a can of tennis balls. . My issue with the reading of Bugliosi trying to use the clock as evidence to establish a timeline for about the time of Parents killing, . parent I believe stole it from the electronic store he worked in . According to William Garretson, Steven p:lugged the clock in to demonstrate how it looked when plugged in , in hopes of selling it to Garretson. When the police found it in Parents car it read 12:15.Bugliosi tried to place 12:15 am as the approximate time Parent was shot by Watson. Trouble is is that when you get the clock it’s set to 12:00 and I doubt that parent set the clock to the real time before or after he 0lugged it into the wall socket to show Garretson it worked . Parent plugged it in but Garretson was not interested in buying the radio. , he offered Parent a beer and after 15 minutes unplugged the clock radio. Whether Parent stayed much longer or not before leaving for his car is conjecture. The clock ran for 15 mins. It couldn’t be used as a timeline for anything . I believe he started for his car walking along the path and witnessed what was going on in the house , seeing warson killing Sebring out front to right of front door where copious amounts of Sebrings blood and Sharon’s blood was found to the left to the door on the. Flagstones and Parent ran to his car hoping to escape but I bet Watson called out to Linda to stop him from leaving ,, slicing Parents left arm and his watch band off later found in back seat.
Watson caught up to Parent and then shot him 4x. Why else would Parent say “ I won’t tell any one “ Parent was so frantic to get out of there that he backed up so quickly he bumped back of his rear bumper in to the split fence as his cars paint Was found on the fence. They couldn’t let a witness leave.
Ok
No
What about The LaBianca murders where Manson WAS there and tied people up? This guy is reaching, Manson knew what he did and took it to the grave
Ordered this book when it came out through the website and they never sent it to me totally robbed and I really wanted to read it now I can’t trust trying to get it I’m gonna have to probably try to buy a used one from somebody on eBay at some point
Hey man the same thing happened to me and the website has since folded when I tried emailing them, the UK edition is still available from the publisher! Google the Manson files UK edition it'll come up
Not a good endorsement
Same here. Really wanted to read it!!!
Also I am having a hard time believing what was said about Linda K being a mastermind. She wasn’t out at Spahn Ranch that long before the murders. I have always thought the crimes were done “for the brother” Bobby B.
It was... This is all about profit.
Funny not one of the people who were there.. To this day.. Speak about anything this man claims. I think people like gypsy, Diane etc.. Would of mentioned it by now. They have nothing to fear now.
They back up totally the case against Manson. If what this mans claims is true.. At least one of them would of said so.
All to profit this stuff. Shrug
He always mentions his music, his beliefs, always throws that stuff in.
It's interesting, but it's all just conjecture. Anyone can add things to connect anyones life. Anyone can connect my life to things that never happened.
It's genius, and he has probably done very well financially.
@@MG-cd9ekI think they pin it all on Charlie to exclude themselves. Looking back they don't want to be associated with manson and it gets them off the hook if they say they were brainwashed. Fromme who was probably closest to manson, tj wallerman and a few others have always defended Charlie. It's really only the killers, who have to stick to the official story, diane and gypsy who blame Charlie
one main thread of Screck construction is Tex Watson./ linda Kasabian robbery vs. Fritkowski and Sebring, and their unlucky female friends Tate and Folger. He does not even so much as mention Krenwinkel, Van Houten as having been rthere WEF??
What have the World Economic Forum got to do with it?
@@sittingnow WTF rather than WEF !
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It seems mansion didnt care about proving his side of story , he just turned on his altoego,,, and the world saw him as crazed lunatic
If we are to believe that the murderers were so suggestible and weak minded to allow themselves to be manipulated by Charlie, what was to stop the prosecution from similarly manipulating their minds from that point on, perhaps convincing them that they would find some sort of absolution if they put the finger on Charlie? by the way, this talk is one of the only realistic assessments of the situation i've heard. whatever happened with the murders, the aftermath and the circus is 99.9% the creation of the media, legal system and the public reverberation from that. I love Charlie and I'd have been proud to have been his friend. nobody's perfect, and there's more unsolved murders than solved ones so to use Charlie as a whipping boy or a scapegoat is futile. Best thing to do is watch yourself, folks. For example, who killed Ronald Hughes?
Why is Vincent B not true?
read chaos by tom o;neil , he has plenty of documented files proving Vincent wrong , nick is not all he is cracked up to be , he is a massive phonny
@@ThoughtPolice007are you saying schreck is a massive fraud or bugliosi
Bullshit and silly speculations.
Ya ya ya…I don’t remember and don’t know what your talking about
Da fuck?
One of those girls got parole finally, earlier this year. (2023) Forget exactly who
Leslie Van Houten
666th view
Love it
There is something to be said for retribution. Sorry but this was way more than a drug robbery. For what ever reason, these people were slaughtered. That is pure evil.
Right back to that indoctrination.. ehh?
You've never seen the carnage of a drug heist gone bad . Especially when they injest their own product. Drug gangs aim for and the drug community knows what happened even if the police other books and City Hall don't want to scare Johnny and Susie q public with the gruesome details
That's exactly my thoughts on it to, was still beyond savage no matter what the reasons!
this guy just steals other peoples work
He is an investigator/ detective. Any person who reveals the truth of other people will be accused of stealing this information.
Thought police can you Reference or link anything to back up your claim? Of course not! Cause if you had evidence you’d have used it.
@@BushyHairedStranger Don't waste my time troll , Read Chaos by Thomas O'neil, Then Weird Scenes inside laurel Canyon, Legacy of Ashes , Family of Secrets and Cult of Intelligence then we can talk. This guy is fake. When you can afford to read Manson Files we can chat. Have Jolly West of a Day
@@BushyHairedStranger what evidence he has to backup his claim he only says he talkled to this people and that people but never shows any physical evidence not even audio recordings of those conversations that he claims to have had with closer relatives .Tom o niel dos present audio recordings with closer relatives including rudy altobelli ,some pastor associated with steven parent,and jay sebrings relative who calimed that jay sebrings house wires were also cut the previous day of the murder suspecting that attempt to murder was done previous day at sebrings house.
@@eternalsoul220I kind of agree with you, and I really like schreck and support his theory
If the murders were a result of a bad drug deal , it seems a bit of a coincidence that Terry Melcher who Manson hated was a former resident of the very same house ! personally i still believe that Manson wanted the family members to go to the address and kill Melcher for not accepting Manson's music, the resulting murders of the La Bianca couple were a ridiculous attempt to divert the blame onto the Black Panthers who Manson believed were out to kill him after he shot a guy who Manson thought was a member of the Black rights group.
In her book Dianne lake states that Manson suddenly changed from the peace loving Hippy into some far right Black hating lunatic who insisted the family listen to the Beatles white album and interpret the lyrics to suit his racist agenda.
Manson knew he didn't live there anymore... He knew that... they even put that in the horrible movie "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" where Manson goes to the house looking for Terry Melcher and learns he isn't there anymore, that actually happened.
@@YoungNino2017yes. Charlie knew Terry was living in Malibu. Charlie stole the spy glass from that house.
Hollywood did it