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How many chapters (unit of 1000 marines ) are there ? I don't understand why you give the name of the captain of the different squads and the personal names of the squads if there are more than one chapter in the empire
I’d like to see an episode on Guard regiments, all the fascinating logistics and diversity of units that goes into the first and often only line of defense for the Imperium of Mankind. Edit: True the planetary defense forces and local navies of planets are the first line of defense against the threats, I feel safest on Mcrrage protected by its planetary military. Outside of the Terran PDF and guard regiments they’re the best equipped , trained and managed, especially with the return of Gullimen. Except Mccrage is a better place to live since it’s the home of the son of your god whose principle trait is order and logistics. (Do Ultima citizens even see the Emperor as a god?)
The thing is, you can do this with (codex compliant) space marine chapters cause they are for the most part exactly put down in numbers and organisation within the lore. Which btw is in it self already a huge problem for the lore if you ask me since you rarely ever see more than one company (100) marines deploy to any high intensity battle zone. Meaning often times a whole planet is held by 100 men. That is just impossible. Simply because one battle brother cannot cover enough ground even if he would be able to take on no matter how many enemies alone. Even holding a single city would be a huge challange. They shouldn‘t have put them this low or even better never really given 1 definitiv number that is accurate for most chapters. Would have safed the lore from that problem. But the guard regiments of the astra militarum can deploy in man numbers bordering or even surpassing the millions at once. I am not aware of any in depth organizational diagrams or listings of each of the forces or any at all. I mean in these numbers it‘s best for an author that isn‘t a military historian in additon to sci-fi author and lore nerd of his setting to just not give a detailed rundown if you want to avoid problems that people will point out. I would also assume that mosh regiments organize their forces as the battlefield they fight on dictates. The astartes are very bound to their traditions and rituals. So they won‘t (the raptors aside) ever change into some fitting camo for a battle eg, they want to be seen. Showing the foea of man kind whom has arrived to fight in the emperor‘s name. The militarum is much more logical and pragmatic (to the point of cynical decisions) than they are. So they would always adjust as far as they can to the battke they face. Thanks for listening, this is the end of my TED-Talk 😂
@@identity7536 I feel like space marines were meant to be special forces, not general infantry, they don't occupy planets, they show up, decapitate enemy leadership, blow their logistics and leave
@@InvictaHistory Looking forward to it. Maybe another follow up on the Space Marines could be on the various Vehicles of the Astartes and their capabilities, and then one featuring all of the Primaris Units. With various other factions interspersed, of course.
@@KalashVodka175 I am aware, it could be a special part 3 continuing on with a connection to the Ultramarines. Perhaps a part 3 could explore the Auxillia and Chapter Fleet.
I would rather get a part 3 explaining the differences after Guilliman wakes up with Primaris. New captains, Victrix Guard, Lieutenants, new vehicles, etc....
@@KalashVodka175 No they aren't? It's literally in the codex that they have fought alongside the Ultramarines. pgs. 14-15: While Ultramar is exempt of the normal tithes of manpower expected of the worlds in the Imperium, the Ultramar Auxilia maintain many regiments ready for deployment to locations outside of Ultramar. Indeed, several of these regiments have fought against the enemies of the Imperium alongside the Ultramarines
@@KalashVodka175 I'm pretty sure the Ultramar Auxilia deploys alongside the Space Marines in a very similar fashion to how the Army and Legiones Astartes worked together towards the end of the great Crusade.
Puts into perspective what story characters mean when an entire chapter is deployed , its not just a 1000 dudes , although its a 1000 space marines which are a significant force multiplier but behind them are tens to hundreds of thousands of support personel , its like if you give every Green Beret an entire group of fighter jet ground technicians to take care of everything else.
This reminds me of the Raven Guard 4th Company project I’m working on.. I sat down and did my best to research the lore on unit makeup, unit size, equipment, vehicles, even servitors and tech marines needed (all the while trying to keep it as lore-accurate as I could specifically for Raven Guard). It’s been fun so far. I’m going to need like, 115 miniatures and 16 vehicles or something 😅😂
I'm working on a similar project making a 2nd company ultramarines force from the 5th edition codex, so far I have three tactical squads, a devesator squad an assault squad plus Cato Sicarius and his command squad so I'm about half way there.
once upon a time GW used to actually sell a full standard battle company on their webstore minus the vehicles. commander/command team, tactical, devastator, assault squads, a chaplain, the whole shebang. was really cool
Respect for your effort :) Firstborn 4th Company Dark Angels myself ... though I'm a bit light on vehicles and I don't think I will do the full motorized part since I don't have the patience to paint as many tanks and I skipped the servitors as I didn't like the models :D On the other hand though I've ended up with two thirds of the Death- and Ravenwing respectively. I didn't want to go full companies there because there is a limit in how many bikes, land speeders and terminators I'm willing to paint just to stand around and collect dust so they are kept based around still playable collections (though most of my Ravenwing became legends even before I got to paint them :D ).
Really puts into perspective how Veteran Captain Titus (Now Lieutenant Titus) was. Since Captain Titus was once the Captain of the 2nd Company, Guardians of the Temple.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 To be fair, the hierarchy in the Imperium and Space Marines' role in it makes that ANY Astartes would be called Lord by a guardsman ; even a scout.
A funny irony is that 40k undersizes its scale, with massive planetary campaigns with fewer combatants than some WWII fronts. But it is the most accurate of galactic scale war/administration. Even though you need to put a zero on the end of every formation larger than a squad.
Yeah they try to justify it but it is all based off of a board game where you can't really have that many units on the table at once. Bit silly really it doesn't have to exactly mirror the lore.
Dude this is like TV documentary quality work you and your team are incredible 👍👍👍
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I was waiting for this second part and I came out very satisfied with your work, now I'm thinking about so many possibilities of Warhammer 40K armies that you could bring on the channel and now in the video you inform us that you also plan to talk about vehicles and other things, so I'm happier than ever. It would be great if you talked in future videos about The Gray Knights, the Adepta Sororitas, the Imperial Guard, the Chaos Space Marines, the Tau armies and Eldar armies.
That would be awesome, it always never made sense to me they hard fix grey knights into a normal chapter. They were founded by siglite during the Horus heresy, they should have been at least semi legion size at 10,000 minimum. With g man back wish they retcon it to a bigger size to make sense
@@grey4612 With how difficult the induction process of the Grey Knights is, I doubt they could create such a large force. Not to mention all their esoteric anti-daemon armaments could probably not be produced at a fast enough rate to sustain such a massive force.
@@outis7080 with black ships bringing in psykers from all over the galaxy to feed the emperor's I'm sure they can get a lot of canditates from there. From a million worlds, and trillions of humans from all over with psykers becoming more common place, I'm sure a force of 10,000 is easily achievable considering they are fighting an unending war against unlimited foes.
@@outis7080 Think about this, they have enough Aegis pattern tactical terminator armor for not just their First company but for the entire chapter. Yes the Grey knights are a chapter designed for combating the daemon and undergoing some of the most extensive training to become a full blown battle brother. but there is no scout phase just battle brother in the 8 companies.
This is very well done and from what I can gather as accurate as is possible with such things all that being said I can this being very useful for someone new to 40k though I’d note that not all chapters complie with the codex. The black templars being a prime example of a chapter who probably see that particular tome is little more then glorified toilet paper.
Part 3 - Pilots, vehicle crew, drivers, starship command staff, and Dreadnoughts - this adds another 200 - 300 marines. Even a small astartes Gladius Frigate will have... what... 1-5 Marines? Captain, Engineerium, tactical officer?
As someone who’s always been in love with 40k lore (can’t wait for Henry caveils adaptation) but have never played, these videos are exactly what I love. Thanks for these series combination. Perfect video to end my day with a cold glass of eggnog.
Well done, I'm just missing one thing. Every vehicle IS crewed by Space Marines, some vehicles will have serfs and/or servitors, but I don't think the Space Marine crew is counted among the 1000 battle brothers. Many of these operators are also at least a bit trained in keeping the equipment running by the tech marines and some probably will be elevated to techmarine in a later stage. It is however never recorded how or when they end up as vehicle operators...
I think the Codex is open to interpretation even for the blue boys, so they play with the chapter numbers in the margins. Still, I think the motorpool and air corps, is a good place for a marine who is too hurt for frontline infantry tasks, but not hurt enough to be entombed in a Dreadnought.
I remember reading one of the Uriel Ventris novels where they are on one of the Space Marine star cruisers and there is an Admiral who is an Ultramarine but he's not part of any of the companies so that would mean the Ultramarines have at least 1001 battle brothers an then what about any battle brothers who are serving in the death watch.
For those curious, there's a book series by Graham McNeill that follows the exploits of cpt Ventris and his right hand man Pasanius(who is counted among tallest and largest marines currently in lore). Series span 6(now 7) books, from defense of ultramar vs tyranids, his censure and perilous undertaking to destroy one very nasty chaos project, then his escape and reinstatement to captaincy, book 7 even got him audience with primarch Guilliman and undergoing rubicon primaris. Good stuff if you're interested (it's a bit tied to another series by same author, but both can stand on their own). I must compliment the model department here, those vehicles look quite sharp.
Amazing Video(s) which bring home the might that "just" 1000 Marines carry. What I missed in the last segment about the Leadership of a Chapter is the emphasis on how special it is for an Astartes chapter to have its own Fleet, Tech Marines and ability to procure and maintain those assets. For anybody else in the Imperium those two Abilities are very much tied under the aegis of the Adeptus Administratum and Mechanicus.
Started collecting blood angels when I started college bc there was a good community on campus. By the time I left I had a veteran Demi-company and a standard Demi-company, and I gotta say the satisfaction of fielding both for an apocalypse game is immense just seeing a tide of red, gold, and black pushing up the field
This was very well made, and provided a lot of good explanations on how a Space Marine chapter works. However, with all the traditionally old models showcased here slowly being phased out, the intent is clearly to have the old Marines replaced by the new 'Primaris' Marines, who no longer have any special distinct 'Primaris' treatment. It would be interesting to see a second version of this series where you review how the new Primaris squad units work in a chapter, since their organization is still very new and not as well-known compared to the old.
Personally I think they will uptade old marines with a new scale in the horus heresy. They already released the mkVI and MKIII and the special characters units showcased in the horus heresy in Warhammer Community hints the design of the base units with mkIV and mkV armor (shown today as apothecary). My other opinion is that they will release each year a armor so my guess is that the MK7 ( the one traditionally old design) will be released in at least 5 years.
It would be amazing to see a True Size video for the Dark Angels Chapter since they have a very unique Codex Organization with their 1st and 2nd company and inner circle.
It's worth pointing out that the Ultramarines are somewhat 'special' in that they also actually receive replacement marines from other chapters directly so they're not as straightforward in terms of progression as it might seem, that's partly because they are also somewhat of a 'prestige' chapter being a first founding successor chapter and as such the expectation on all of it's members is higher than that of other chapters
The sacrifice of the First Company Terminators in the polar Relquary during the Battle of Maccrage in the Tyranid Ultramarine War, is still something I love alot. I haven‘t read the codex entries and novels in a long time but if I remember correctly it is narrated from the perspective of an astartes rushing to the reliquary after defeating the main force attacking the fortress monestary and being anchious since a huge detachment of tyranid bioforms was seen heading there mid battle and the Veteran Brother there haven‘t responded after the battle. He rushes through the halls of the reliquary, drenched in tyranid blood and scorch marks of heavy flamers. He finds hundred of dead tyranids but not even close to as many as went there. In the end he finds the main chamber, the sanctum reliquaris to the whole complex where the relict (i forgot which artifact it was feel free to remind me) of their primarch is cept in the middle of the room. There he finds them. All of the first company terminators (which I think at this point was the whole company that hadn‘t died at the main fortress monestary as sternguards and vanguard veterans) dead in circles around the relic with uncountable numbers of xenos corpses surrounding them. The shell casings are piled between their motionless bodies and the all seem to have gone down fighting till their last hearts had given in and then some. And not a scratch or splatter of vile inhuman blood has touched the relic. They gave their lives and did their duty against all odds. The last Terminator seems to have bled out shortly after he killed the last bioform in the room. Or he stood watch after the fight not leaving his vigil to patch himself up in case more bioforms were hiding, until even his astartes bidy couldn‘t handle the bloodloss and organ failure from all the wounds his pierced Terminator armor had sustained over the days of constant assault. Such stories are why I love 40K and the spacemarines, I love the Astra Militarum just as much if not more for their simple defiance and courage towards impossible odds because they are ready to die for the chance of doing something that helps what they believe to be the only right thing and for all humans in the galaxy. That is in a very different way to these bigger than life super human acts of glory and honor the Astartes stories provide a very strong motive as well. But stories like the Honored First and their final Vigil in the polar Reliquary are just some of my favorite ones in terms of narrative and legendary feats
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 But tbh I doubt that. the story states that all the 1st company terminators there died defending it. so I doubt they just made a mistake and didn't realize it. but tbh I like the Idea that they all 100% gave their lives willingly for what they believed in without any second of doubt or fear much more than some surviving. the truely marched for Maccrage and they really knew no fear.
At least you left out the Primarus Marines. A Space Marine from Neophyte to Chapter Master doesn't go through each company. Sure one will start at the 10th company as a scout, then will be assigned one of the reserves based upon his specialty (8th for Assault, 9th for Heavy weapons, 6th or 7th is most of them will be). When a Tactical Company suffers losses they will be brought up into a squad to replace losses. From there they could be elevated to the 1st Company or Promoted to Sergeant and given a position leading a reserve squad until a vacancy opens up in one of the battle companies, or become one of the 10 Tutors (Sergeants) of 10th Company. After some time leading a squad in the battle company the Sergeant will be elevated into the 1st Company as a Vanguard or Sternguard veteran, then one of the 1st Company Sergeants. After some time if not assigned to one of the other Chapter officers he will become a Captain of a Reserve Company, then promoted to Leading one of the Battle Companies. Before 1st Company Captain which is typically 2nd to the Chapter Master the highest rank.
I've been with you since THFE productions, and I remember saying in the beginning how awesome it would be if you did some side content for 40K. This is, quite literally, a dream come true! Hope you show the Grey Knights some love!
Really well made, And well researched. Im not going to "um actually" because im sure with how well you broke it up and got a bunch right with the lore I'm just going to guess it got put into the wrong spot. But you call terminator armor "dreadnaught" armor when detailing the vet squads. And you characterize dreadnaughts in the "vehicle" section. Dreadnaught are marines that have fallen in battle and are kept in the dreadnought armor that contains their life support systems. You cant pull someone out of the suit as they will die and are the most venerated men, as they most likely are some of the oldest Marines, and its a great honor to be in a suit. The way you go over it im sure is just a "dreadnaughts are separate "and got lost, just wanted to say in case anyone was curious ☺️
I could imagine the awe of a guardsman seeing a space marine. But I can’t imagine how awed one would be seeing a custodian something one will only hear rumors and whispers about.
It's fascinating to watch your graphics team attempt to render 40k in your chapter's art style, while evidently not being very aware of the lore or design language, makes all the renders of models quite refreshing to see the blurring of different styles and armour marks in a way that GW art direction does not permit.
To be noted that a chapter also has further assets : ships and possibly chapter monastery (or even monasteries) Now to guard all of this there are armsmen amongst the ranks of the chapter serfs and crew members, because marines are too precious to act as permanent ship or monastery garrisons (altho obviouslt any marine aboard will aid on fighting boarders if it occur)
One noble son, of the master of mankind, has arrived to attend this glorious ceremony of The Primarch of Logistics and Lord of Ultramar and his hollowed, indomitable Space Marines..
Dude this was so freaking helpful with trying to understand how the chapters work! I was playing space marine 2 and got curious and there was so many pictures and reddit pages talking about it but couldn't find anything that was complete with all the information like this, so again thanks so much for doing this!!! Really awesome video, you rule dude!!
What I like the most is that these two videos give some much needed perspective of how much weight a phrase like "the entire Chapter was deployed" or "the entire chapter was lost" have. With a thousand Battle Brothers, many more Scouts, support Marines and leadership, and their mortal servants, a Space Marine Chapter brings to bear firepower rivalring a present-day First World power's entire military. If you read about a particular Imperial campaign that features the deployment of MULTIPLE Space Marine Chapters, that was a SHITSHOW.
You made it part of the video... Tacticus is a lot of fun, but having tried it three times from install, it is aggressively PTP. You need certain characters of certain factions to open new campaigns or risk getting stuck in grinding. The first ones to open the initial campaign are trivial, but after that even when you grind, scrape and wait for 10x reinforcement shards (the drop pod thing) and despite the guarantee of a new character if you wait to cash 10 shards at once, doesn't happen after the initial characters. Instead you get character tokens for the initial characters, which are used for upgrading a character... if you happen to have the other, increasingly rare item to go with it. So, without paying, I was stuck in the initial Imperium, Necron and Chaos campaigns, with 1 of 3 required characters for the next two campaigns after 2x and 3x (different games) 10 shard drops that netted zero of the required characters but enough to level up the initial characters. By this time, I have piles of character coins for multiple characters and levels, but not the now super rare extra item... Oh, that extra item is also required for higher levels of character powers. So, two requirements, level up upgrades or special power upgrade... OR drop enough $$ to buy another game for 10 low-mid upgrade items that you start needing multiple of to upgrade. As for the required characters that refuse to drop as promised (no, a stack of character coins for a character I have does not equal a guaranteed new character), $$ works too, at an even more expensive rate. The costs are insane for digital bits, like GW plastic and resin price insane. You know, prices so high it is cheaper to shell out for a higher end 3d printer and resin to print your own minis. TLDR Summary: It is a fun game despite being a heavily overpriced pay to play rip off fairly quickly, which ends the fun.
NGL, when I heard Captain Cato Sicarius' name the first thing that popped in my head is the TTS version 😅😂. Now I can't unhear his spamming of his name constantly given the chance. "I, Cato Sicarius am the most prestigious Cato Sicarius."
You know, I don't really know if the super-human crews of space marine armored vehicles are really worth it for the chapter in the end. A tank is a tank at the end of the day and could lightly be termed as a significant force multiplier but it doesn't really let the marines exploit the nature of their augmentations and previous training. Furthermore we know that the Imperium has access to augmentations for baseline humans so it really can't be that hard for a space marine chapter to take a group of serfs and augment them to the point they are capable of integrating with a vehicles sensors and weapons to the point there is no appreciable loss in performance. It just feels like it would have been a more efficient use of resources allowing for more battle-brothers in the squads rather than squirreling away your reserve in the chapter specialists.
It makes more sense when you consider that the vehicle crews don't count towards the 1000 limit. If you used regular/augmented humans as the crew, you'd be reducing the number of actual astartes your Chapter had since you can't just transfer the vehicle crews somewhere else. So they're really a way to increase the actual size of the chapter without increasing the technical size of it. And in an emergency, you can always pull them out of the vehicles and give them bolters 😉
@@CornishMoose The Codex Astartes is a bit flexible in these matters. You are right some positions when filled with Space Marines do not count to the 1000 total. It is how two particular chapteers can circumvent it in a unique way without getting the total ire of the Inquisition.
the specialists dont count towards the 1k max, its there way to booster the actually numbers without going against the codex. Techmarines, pilots, apothecaries etc... don't count towards the 1k
While the Ultramar Auxilia is mostly used as PDF garrison on the 500 worlds, they could be so much more. There is no Codex limit on the size and armaments of an Space Marine's auxiliary force, similar to an Inquisitor's retinue. And there are Inquisitors who induct millions of Guardsmen into their retinue, or entire fleets. Or both. Same for the tech-marines. A normal Chapter has maybe 40 tech-marines, but they could have 1000 or more, since they are not considered Battle Brothers, nor are the Dreadnoughts, the Librarians and so on.
Really great video! The first part was the first video of yours I’ve seen and y’all do a great job presenting all this information (both visually and verbally) nice and concise. My only note on the visuals of this one is that, afaik, all the vehicles of all the 10 Companies are crewed by Techmarines and their serfs/servitors, meaning the number of Techmarines at the end should be WAY larger. I know there are Astartes like Sgt Chronus that aren’t Techmarines but deploy in tanks, but I think those Marines are the exception and not the rule.
7:00 I know this quote and while it's a bit nit-picky, its not about the Ultramarines. The quote comes from the Tactica Imperialis book, the section detailing the defence of Naxos against Dark Eldar raiders, and the Astartes the guardsman is describing is from the Iron Snakes chapter. with the spear he describes being a signature weapon of the Chapter, a modified Sea-Lance used by Chapter Initiates to hunt and kill one of the giant water snakes that they take their name from.
There is nothing nit-picky about the lore of 40k and the beloved Emperor. If we fail to adhere to the absolute word of the lore then the Inquisition will be coming for us faster than an Ork in a red buggy!
11:46 the sergent in the middles armour is primaris aside from his helmet and jump pack. Just a heads up the easiest way to tell FB(in aquilon armor) from primaris is the kneecaps, gorgette and the helmet. Primaris have flaired kneecaps, large gorgette and there helmets have no grill(the thing that looks like a frowny mouth).
Their desig team likely doesn't know the difference, there's a few interesting mistakes that I think make hte vid far more interesting thna if they'd just copied wholesale.
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Now do one of the Non-compliant Chapters next, like the Black Templars. They have a very complex structure.
near 9 00 you say heavy armored then proceed to show rhinos and whirldwinds lmfao
Like the glove of Dorn?
Can you make video about more true size of diffrent chapter 😅
How many chapters (unit of 1000 marines ) are there ?
I don't understand why you give the name of the captain of the different squads and the personal names of the squads if there are more than one chapter in the empire
I’d like to see an episode on Guard regiments, all the fascinating logistics and diversity of units that goes into the first and often only line of defense for the Imperium of Mankind.
Edit: True the planetary defense forces and local navies of planets are the first line of defense against the threats, I feel safest on Mcrrage protected by its planetary military. Outside of the Terran PDF and guard regiments they’re the best equipped , trained and managed, especially with the return of Gullimen. Except Mccrage is a better place to live since it’s the home of the son of your god whose principle trait is order and logistics. (Do Ultima citizens even see the Emperor as a god?)
A great study case that goes into detail of Guard logistics would be the Siege of Vraks and how they got so much supplies to such a barren world
Except, most of the time PDF were there.
The thing is, you can do this with (codex compliant) space marine chapters cause they are for the most part exactly put down in numbers and organisation within the lore.
Which btw is in it self already a huge problem for the lore if you ask me since you rarely ever see more than one company (100) marines deploy to any high intensity battle zone. Meaning often times a whole planet is held by 100 men. That is just impossible. Simply because one battle brother cannot cover enough ground even if he would be able to take on no matter how many enemies alone. Even holding a single city would be a huge challange.
They shouldn‘t have put them this low or even better never really given 1 definitiv number that is accurate for most chapters. Would have safed the lore from that problem.
But the guard regiments of the astra militarum can deploy in man numbers bordering or even surpassing the millions at once. I am not aware of any in depth organizational diagrams or listings of each of the forces or any at all. I mean in these numbers it‘s best for an author that isn‘t a military historian in additon to sci-fi author and lore nerd of his setting to just not give a detailed rundown if you want to avoid problems that people will point out.
I would also assume that mosh regiments organize their forces as the battlefield they fight on dictates. The astartes are very bound to their traditions and rituals. So they won‘t (the raptors aside) ever change into some fitting camo for a battle eg, they want to be seen. Showing the foea of man kind whom has arrived to fight in the emperor‘s name.
The militarum is much more logical and pragmatic (to the point of cynical decisions) than they are. So they would always adjust as far as they can to the battke they face.
Thanks for listening, this is the end of my TED-Talk 😂
Good idea
@@identity7536 I feel like space marines were meant to be special forces, not general infantry, they don't occupy planets, they show up, decapitate enemy leadership, blow their logistics and leave
My armor is contempt, my sword is hatred, my shield is disgust, in the Emperor's name, let none survive.
I am the hammer, I am the point of his spear, I am the mail at his fist, I am the bane of his foes and woes of the treacherous. I, am the End
My armour is bad, I have a flashlight, I'm going to die in my first firefight.
My armor is rock, my weapon is scissors, my shield is paper, let none survive.
@@AsianPlagueDoctor genius comment
These two vids were very enjoyable. I would love to see one on the fleet assets of a Chapter.
That would indeed be a great follow up. For now I think we will pivotal to some other factions
@@InvictaHistory Looking forward to it. Maybe another follow up on the Space Marines could be on the various Vehicles of the Astartes and their capabilities, and then one featuring all of the Primaris Units. With various other factions interspersed, of course.
11:51 "...and thus has drawn censure from Chapter Command"
Marneus Calgar: I CAST FIST!!!!
"For it is I, Cato Sicarius, who will become chapter master"
_Someone's insisting on an Imperial Fisting..._
I CAST FIST
"The 2nd Company led by Captain Seve- er, Captain Titu- er, Captain Cato Sicarius"
It would be awesome if we got a part 3 exploring the Ultramar Auxillia.
Ultramar auxilia has a purely defensive role and isn’t apart of the chapter proper tbh
@@KalashVodka175 I am aware, it could be a special part 3 continuing on with a connection to the Ultramarines. Perhaps a part 3 could explore the Auxillia and Chapter Fleet.
I would rather get a part 3 explaining the differences after Guilliman wakes up with Primaris. New captains, Victrix Guard, Lieutenants, new vehicles, etc....
@@KalashVodka175 No they aren't? It's literally in the codex that they have fought alongside the Ultramarines.
pgs. 14-15: While Ultramar is exempt of the normal tithes of manpower expected of the worlds in the Imperium, the Ultramar Auxilia maintain many regiments ready for deployment to locations outside of Ultramar. Indeed, several of these regiments have fought against the enemies of the Imperium alongside the Ultramarines
@@KalashVodka175 I'm pretty sure the Ultramar Auxilia deploys alongside the Space Marines in a very similar fashion to how the Army and Legiones Astartes worked together towards the end of the great Crusade.
Puts into perspective what story characters mean when an entire chapter is deployed , its not just a 1000 dudes , although its a 1000 space marines which are a significant force multiplier but behind them are tens to hundreds of thousands of support personel , its like if you give every Green Beret an entire group of fighter jet ground technicians to take care of everything else.
@SordidusFellatio ship length in warhammer usually measured in the kilometer range, they are basically floating city in space
"Sweet lotions and sacred oils" Spacemarine smells of oils and lotions.. now I know!
probably to cover his horrid BO. A remembrancer mentions in Horus Rising their sweat smells terribly
I imagine the "sweet smell" similar to WD40
This reminds me of the Raven Guard 4th Company project I’m working on.. I sat down and did my best to research the lore on unit makeup, unit size, equipment, vehicles, even servitors and tech marines needed (all the while trying to keep it as lore-accurate as I could specifically for Raven Guard). It’s been fun so far. I’m going to need like, 115 miniatures and 16 vehicles or something 😅😂
3d printer go brrrr
@@circlingoverland4364 or wallet gonna bleed out
I'm working on a similar project making a 2nd company ultramarines force from the 5th edition codex, so far I have three tactical squads, a devesator squad an assault squad plus Cato Sicarius and his command squad so I'm about half way there.
once upon a time GW used to actually sell a full standard battle company on their webstore minus the vehicles. commander/command team, tactical, devastator, assault squads, a chaplain, the whole shebang. was really cool
Respect for your effort :)
Firstborn 4th Company Dark Angels myself ... though I'm a bit light on vehicles and I don't think I will do the full motorized part since I don't have the patience to paint as many tanks and I skipped the servitors as I didn't like the models :D
On the other hand though I've ended up with two thirds of the Death- and Ravenwing respectively. I didn't want to go full companies there because there is a limit in how many bikes, land speeders and terminators I'm willing to paint just to stand around and collect dust so they are kept based around still playable collections (though most of my Ravenwing became legends even before I got to paint them :D ).
Really puts into perspective how Veteran Captain Titus (Now Lieutenant Titus) was. Since Captain Titus was once the Captain of the 2nd Company, Guardians of the Temple.
Exactly this. When Guardsmen call a Space Marine Captain a LORD it is not only a honorary title but an actual fact.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 To be fair, the hierarchy in the Imperium and Space Marines' role in it makes that ANY Astartes would be called Lord by a guardsman ; even a scout.
You guys struck gold with this genre of video! Keep it up guys! May the emperor shine his light upon thee ✊
8:09 Ah Ventris, so that’s why he’s always on Macragge talking to Calgar about how everything always seems to go right for them for some odd reason.
Must...not...post..."I, Cato Sicarius"....reference.
These 40k vids are a great refreshment. So much better than most established "lore" channels who only read the Lexicanum.
A funny irony is that 40k undersizes its scale, with massive planetary campaigns with fewer combatants than some WWII fronts. But it is the most accurate of galactic scale war/administration.
Even though you need to put a zero on the end of every formation larger than a squad.
Yeah they try to justify it but it is all based off of a board game where you can't really have that many units on the table at once. Bit silly really it doesn't have to exactly mirror the lore.
Dude this is like TV documentary quality work you and your team are incredible 👍👍👍
I was waiting for this second part and I came out very satisfied with your work, now I'm thinking about so many possibilities of Warhammer 40K armies that you could bring on the channel and now in the video you inform us that you also plan to talk about vehicles and other things, so I'm happier than ever. It would be great if you talked in future videos about The Gray Knights, the Adepta Sororitas, the Imperial Guard, the Chaos Space Marines, the Tau armies and Eldar armies.
Another space marine chapter that would be awesome to see is the Grey Knights and their size and structure.
That would be awesome, it always never made sense to me they hard fix grey knights into a normal chapter. They were founded by siglite during the Horus heresy, they should have been at least semi legion size at 10,000 minimum. With g man back wish they retcon it to a bigger size to make sense
what is a grey knight ? there is no such chapter.
@@grey4612 With how difficult the induction process of the Grey Knights is, I doubt they could create such a large force. Not to mention all their esoteric anti-daemon armaments could probably not be produced at a fast enough rate to sustain such a massive force.
@@outis7080 with black ships bringing in psykers from all over the galaxy to feed the emperor's I'm sure they can get a lot of canditates from there. From a million worlds, and trillions of humans from all over with psykers becoming more common place, I'm sure a force of 10,000 is easily achievable considering they are fighting an unending war against unlimited foes.
@@outis7080 Think about this, they have enough Aegis pattern tactical terminator armor for not just their First company but for the entire chapter. Yes the Grey knights are a chapter designed for combating the daemon and undergoing some of the most extensive training to become a full blown battle brother. but there is no scout phase just battle brother in the 8 companies.
This is very well done and from what I can gather as accurate as is possible with such things all that being said I can this being very useful for someone new to 40k though I’d note that not all chapters complie with the codex. The black templars being a prime example of a chapter who probably see that particular tome is little more then glorified toilet paper.
This was fantastic! Really looking forward to your next warhammer 40K videos, this was S-Tier content.
1:40 "and I have 40k on the pocket" for a moment there I thought you were flexing how much money you had on your pocket
Part 3 - Pilots, vehicle crew, drivers, starship command staff, and Dreadnoughts - this adds another 200 - 300 marines. Even a small astartes Gladius Frigate will have... what... 1-5 Marines? Captain, Engineerium, tactical officer?
As someone who’s always been in love with 40k lore (can’t wait for Henry caveils adaptation) but have never played, these videos are exactly what I love. Thanks for these series combination. Perfect video to end my day with a cold glass of eggnog.
Well done, I'm just missing one thing. Every vehicle IS crewed by Space Marines, some vehicles will have serfs and/or servitors, but I don't think the Space Marine crew is counted among the 1000 battle brothers. Many of these operators are also at least a bit trained in keeping the equipment running by the tech marines and some probably will be elevated to techmarine in a later stage. It is however never recorded how or when they end up as vehicle operators...
It's odd how many positions don't count
I always headcannon it as 1000 battle brothers in the regular infantry. Everyone else is bonus.
I think the Codex is open to interpretation even for the blue boys, so they play with the chapter numbers in the margins. Still, I think the motorpool and air corps, is a good place for a marine who is too hurt for frontline infantry tasks, but not hurt enough to be entombed in a Dreadnought.
Yeah the 1000 figure is basically just the actual foot soldiers. Everything else is not included in it
I remember reading one of the Uriel Ventris novels where they are on one of the Space Marine star cruisers and there is an Admiral who is an Ultramarine but he's not part of any of the companies so that would mean the Ultramarines have at least 1001 battle brothers an then what about any battle brothers who are serving in the death watch.
For those curious, there's a book series by Graham McNeill that follows the exploits of cpt Ventris and his right hand man Pasanius(who is counted among tallest and largest marines currently in lore). Series span 6(now 7) books, from defense of ultramar vs tyranids, his censure and perilous undertaking to destroy one very nasty chaos project, then his escape and reinstatement to captaincy, book 7 even got him audience with primarch Guilliman and undergoing rubicon primaris. Good stuff if you're interested (it's a bit tied to another series by same author, but both can stand on their own).
I must compliment the model department here, those vehicles look quite sharp.
Amazing Video(s) which bring home the might that "just" 1000 Marines carry.
What I missed in the last segment about the Leadership of a Chapter is the emphasis on how special it is for an Astartes chapter to have its own Fleet, Tech Marines and ability to procure and maintain those assets.
For anybody else in the Imperium those two Abilities are very much tied under the aegis of the Adeptus Administratum and Mechanicus.
Love these videos. Also love the map design at 6:50
Finally!!!! Cant wait for the titans!!!!
Started collecting blood angels when I started college bc there was a good community on campus. By the time I left I had a veteran Demi-company and a standard Demi-company, and I gotta say the satisfaction of fielding both for an apocalypse game is immense just seeing a tide of red, gold, and black pushing up the field
This was very well made, and provided a lot of good explanations on how a Space Marine chapter works. However, with all the traditionally old models showcased here slowly being phased out, the intent is clearly to have the old Marines replaced by the new 'Primaris' Marines, who no longer have any special distinct 'Primaris' treatment. It would be interesting to see a second version of this series where you review how the new Primaris squad units work in a chapter, since their organization is still very new and not as well-known compared to the old.
Personally I think they will uptade old marines with a new scale in the horus heresy. They already released the mkVI and MKIII and the special characters units showcased in the horus heresy in Warhammer Community hints the design of the base units with mkIV and mkV armor (shown today as apothecary). My other opinion is that they will release each year a armor so my guess is that the MK7 ( the one traditionally old design) will be released in at least 5 years.
It would be amazing to see a True Size video for the Dark Angels Chapter since they have a very unique Codex Organization with their 1st and 2nd company and inner circle.
It's worth pointing out that the Ultramarines are somewhat 'special' in that they also actually receive replacement marines from other chapters directly so they're not as straightforward in terms of progression as it might seem, that's partly because they are also somewhat of a 'prestige' chapter being a first founding successor chapter and as such the expectation on all of it's members is higher than that of other chapters
this vid feels much better organized than the first, much appreciate the mention of chapter serfs
Finally someone who bring num,bers arround the support of the chapter. thank you very much.
The sacrifice of the First Company Terminators in the polar Relquary during the Battle of Maccrage in the Tyranid Ultramarine War, is still something I love alot.
I haven‘t read the codex entries and novels in a long time but if I remember correctly it is narrated from the perspective of an astartes rushing to the reliquary after defeating the main force attacking the fortress monestary and being anchious since a huge detachment of tyranid bioforms was seen heading there mid battle and the Veteran Brother there haven‘t responded after the battle.
He rushes through the halls of the reliquary, drenched in tyranid blood and scorch marks of heavy flamers. He finds hundred of dead tyranids but not even close to as many as went there. In the end he finds the main chamber, the sanctum reliquaris to the whole complex where the relict (i forgot which artifact it was feel free to remind me) of their primarch is cept in the middle of the room. There he finds them.
All of the first company terminators (which I think at this point was the whole company that hadn‘t died at the main fortress monestary as sternguards and vanguard veterans) dead in circles around the relic with uncountable numbers of xenos corpses surrounding them. The shell casings are piled between their motionless bodies and the all seem to have gone down fighting till their last hearts had given in and then some. And not a scratch or splatter of vile inhuman blood has touched the relic. They gave their lives and did their duty against all odds.
The last Terminator seems to have bled out shortly after he killed the last bioform in the room. Or he stood watch after the fight not leaving his vigil to patch himself up in case more bioforms were hiding, until even his astartes bidy couldn‘t handle the bloodloss and organ failure from all the wounds his pierced Terminator armor had sustained over the days of constant assault.
Such stories are why I love 40K and the spacemarines, I love the Astra Militarum just as much if not more for their simple defiance and courage towards impossible odds because they are ready to die for the chance of doing something that helps what they believe to be the only right thing and for all humans in the galaxy. That is in a very different way to these bigger than life super human acts of glory and honor the Astartes stories provide a very strong motive as well. But stories like the Honored First and their final Vigil in the polar Reliquary are just some of my favorite ones in terms of narrative and legendary feats
Thanks in advance !
to make matters even more awesome, if you consider the sus-an membrane some of those Marines might have actually survived in stasis.
@@achimdemus-holzhaeuser1233 But tbh I doubt that. the story states that all the 1st company terminators there died defending it. so I doubt they just made a mistake and didn't realize it. but tbh I like the Idea that they all 100% gave their lives willingly for what they believed in without any second of doubt or fear much more than some surviving. the truely marched for Maccrage and they really knew no fear.
4:07 "True Size of a Titan Legion" would be amazing.
Invicta, you know you have grabbed every 40k fan on this platform now
Thanks for including the servitors, serfs and other servants that make chapters viable!
At least you left out the Primarus Marines.
A Space Marine from Neophyte to Chapter Master doesn't go through each company. Sure one will start at the 10th company as a scout, then will be assigned one of the reserves based upon his specialty (8th for Assault, 9th for Heavy weapons, 6th or 7th is most of them will be). When a Tactical Company suffers losses they will be brought up into a squad to replace losses. From there they could be elevated to the 1st Company or Promoted to Sergeant and given a position leading a reserve squad until a vacancy opens up in one of the battle companies, or become one of the 10 Tutors (Sergeants) of 10th Company. After some time leading a squad in the battle company the Sergeant will be elevated into the 1st Company as a Vanguard or Sternguard veteran, then one of the 1st Company Sergeants. After some time if not assigned to one of the other Chapter officers he will become a Captain of a Reserve Company, then promoted to Leading one of the Battle Companies. Before 1st Company Captain which is typically 2nd to the Chapter Master the highest rank.
I've been with you since THFE productions, and I remember saying in the beginning how awesome it would be if you did some side content for 40K. This is, quite literally, a dream come true! Hope you show the Grey Knights some love!
Really well made, And well researched. Im not going to "um actually" because im sure with how well you broke it up and got a bunch right with the lore I'm just going to guess it got put into the wrong spot.
But you call terminator armor "dreadnaught" armor when detailing the vet squads. And you characterize dreadnaughts in the "vehicle" section.
Dreadnaught are marines that have fallen in battle and are kept in the dreadnought armor that contains their life support systems.
You cant pull someone out of the suit as they will die and are the most venerated men, as they most likely are some of the oldest Marines, and its a great honor to be in a suit.
The way you go over it im sure is just a "dreadnaughts are separate "and got lost, just wanted to say in case anyone was curious ☺️
The work and research and pure entertainment of this video deserves a million views. Well done.
I was actually looking forward to this. Thank you for delivering part 2 so soon. This was entertaining and educational indeed.
This was GREAT! Might I request a special on the Salamanders … Vulcan Lives!
I love 40k. Been a follower of the books and shit forawhile. I appreciate all of your guys work and effort. So thanks
I'm working on my own codex complianed homebrew space marine chapter and this little video series helps a lot. Thank you very much!!
These overviews of 40k are so damn badass! Please for the love of all things holy....give us more.
True size of the Macharian crusade would be pretty cool
I could imagine the awe of a guardsman seeing a space marine. But I can’t imagine how awed one would be seeing a custodian something one will only hear rumors and whispers about.
It's fascinating to watch your graphics team attempt to render 40k in your chapter's art style, while evidently not being very aware of the lore or design language, makes all the renders of models quite refreshing to see the blurring of different styles and armour marks in a way that GW art direction does not permit.
He's not lying, Tacticus is good
Awesome work as always. Keep it up!
PS. gotta love the Ultra Blood Angel Terminators.
Right, I seen that. Just found my new color scheme. 😂
To be noted that a chapter also has further assets : ships and possibly chapter monastery (or even monasteries)
Now to guard all of this there are armsmen amongst the ranks of the chapter serfs and crew members, because marines are too precious to act as permanent ship or monastery garrisons (altho obviouslt any marine aboard will aid on fighting boarders if it occur)
The Emperor protects, glory to this channel
One noble son, of the master of mankind, has arrived to attend this glorious ceremony of The Primarch of Logistics and Lord of Ultramar and his hollowed, indomitable Space Marines..
Never too old for 40k.
Love part 2&1! Would love to see a primaris only chapter, maybe the black templars or a guard version
i love invicta doing warhammer 40k
Dude this was so freaking helpful with trying to understand how the chapters work! I was playing space marine 2 and got curious and there was so many pictures and reddit pages talking about it but couldn't find anything that was complete with all the information like this, so again thanks so much for doing this!!! Really awesome video, you rule dude!!
What I like the most is that these two videos give some much needed perspective of how much weight a phrase like "the entire Chapter was deployed" or "the entire chapter was lost" have. With a thousand Battle Brothers, many more Scouts, support Marines and leadership, and their mortal servants, a Space Marine Chapter brings to bear firepower rivalring a present-day First World power's entire military. If you read about a particular Imperial campaign that features the deployment of MULTIPLE Space Marine Chapters, that was a SHITSHOW.
So Invica is going full 40k channel, let’s go
I am loving this series.
Great series! Would be cool to se a breakdown of an Primaris Space Marines chapter and its new and unique equipment.
Man, I love this collaboration! Y'all are gonna have me collecting marines again.
Brings me back to the days when I first got into 40k and I love it!!
Tacticus is AMAZING!
Modern militaries typically has a 10:1 ratio of support logistics to "frontline" combat.
Space marine chapters apparently have 100:1.
The voiceover is butterly smooth.
You made it part of the video...
Tacticus is a lot of fun, but having tried it three times from install, it is aggressively PTP. You need certain characters of certain factions to open new campaigns or risk getting stuck in grinding. The first ones to open the initial campaign are trivial, but after that even when you grind, scrape and wait for 10x reinforcement shards (the drop pod thing) and despite the guarantee of a new character if you wait to cash 10 shards at once, doesn't happen after the initial characters. Instead you get character tokens for the initial characters, which are used for upgrading a character... if you happen to have the other, increasingly rare item to go with it.
So, without paying, I was stuck in the initial Imperium, Necron and Chaos campaigns, with 1 of 3 required characters for the next two campaigns after 2x and 3x (different games) 10 shard drops that netted zero of the required characters but enough to level up the initial characters.
By this time, I have piles of character coins for multiple characters and levels, but not the now super rare extra item... Oh, that extra item is also required for higher levels of character powers. So, two requirements, level up upgrades or special power upgrade... OR drop enough $$ to buy another game for 10 low-mid upgrade items that you start needing multiple of to upgrade.
As for the required characters that refuse to drop as promised (no, a stack of character coins for a character I have does not equal a guaranteed new character), $$ works too, at an even more expensive rate. The costs are insane for digital bits, like GW plastic and resin price insane. You know, prices so high it is cheaper to shell out for a higher end 3d printer and resin to print your own minis.
TLDR Summary: It is a fun game despite being a heavily overpriced pay to play rip off fairly quickly, which ends the fun.
Loving these series. Would love to dive into the logistics of the troops and empire itself. Thanks for another awesome video,.
Thank you so much for this series. Seriously. Thank you.
Great video! Love 40k content. I wonder how things have changed since the introduction of Primaris and their assets.
It's in the millions, when you add in all associated with a chapter, a battle-barge alone goes into hundreds of thousands of voidsmen.
Finally, the second part that we needed
And I shall know, no sleep
This have been really fun and interesting to watch! would love to see you do the codex non-compliant chapters!
The work this people does it's
just great
Can’t wait for all the other parts!
NGL, when I heard Captain Cato Sicarius' name the first thing that popped in my head is the TTS version 😅😂. Now I can't unhear his spamming of his name constantly given the chance.
"I, Cato Sicarius am the most prestigious Cato Sicarius."
Ready for a part three with more Lore
"Thus has the heartland of the Ultramarines been preserved for hundreds of years..."
Even more impressive, thousands. Almost a full millennia.
You know, I don't really know if the super-human crews of space marine armored vehicles are really worth it for the chapter in the end. A tank is a tank at the end of the day and could lightly be termed as a significant force multiplier but it doesn't really let the marines exploit the nature of their augmentations and previous training. Furthermore we know that the Imperium has access to augmentations for baseline humans so it really can't be that hard for a space marine chapter to take a group of serfs and augment them to the point they are capable of integrating with a vehicles sensors and weapons to the point there is no appreciable loss in performance.
It just feels like it would have been a more efficient use of resources allowing for more battle-brothers in the squads rather than squirreling away your reserve in the chapter specialists.
It makes more sense when you consider that the vehicle crews don't count towards the 1000 limit. If you used regular/augmented humans as the crew, you'd be reducing the number of actual astartes your Chapter had since you can't just transfer the vehicle crews somewhere else.
So they're really a way to increase the actual size of the chapter without increasing the technical size of it. And in an emergency, you can always pull them out of the vehicles and give them bolters 😉
@@CornishMoose The Codex Astartes is a bit flexible in these matters. You are right some positions when filled with Space Marines do not count to the 1000 total. It is how two particular chapteers can circumvent it in a unique way without getting the total ire of the Inquisition.
the specialists dont count towards the 1k max, its there way to booster the actually numbers without going against the codex. Techmarines, pilots, apothecaries etc... don't count towards the 1k
For Courage and Honor
Glory to Macragge!
For the Emperor!
cant belive this channel aslo fell for the 40k lore
Love to see the 4th get its recognition
For The Honour Of Ultramar
While the Ultramar Auxilia is mostly used as PDF garrison on the 500 worlds, they could be so much more. There is no Codex limit on the size and armaments of an Space Marine's auxiliary force, similar to an Inquisitor's retinue. And there are Inquisitors who induct millions of Guardsmen into their retinue, or entire fleets. Or both.
Same for the tech-marines. A normal Chapter has maybe 40 tech-marines, but they could have 1000 or more, since they are not considered Battle Brothers, nor are the Dreadnoughts, the Librarians and so on.
Subbed after watching part one of this series. This is so cool! Thanks for all the hard work put into these videos!
This is such a great idea. Please do all the factions! I will patiently wait until my beloved Kyn get their video at the very end ;)
Loving this series.. love that you're sponsored by tacticus too.
Really great video! The first part was the first video of yours I’ve seen and y’all do a great job presenting all this information (both visually and verbally) nice and concise.
My only note on the visuals of this one is that, afaik, all the vehicles of all the 10 Companies are crewed by Techmarines and their serfs/servitors, meaning the number of Techmarines at the end should be WAY larger. I know there are Astartes like Sgt Chronus that aren’t Techmarines but deploy in tanks, but I think those Marines are the exception and not the rule.
“Heavy breathing in Black Templars”
Can't wait for a tanith first and only video or one on the tau
7:00 I know this quote and while it's a bit nit-picky, its not about the Ultramarines. The quote comes from the Tactica Imperialis book, the section detailing the defence of Naxos against Dark Eldar raiders, and the Astartes the guardsman is describing is from the Iron Snakes chapter. with the spear he describes being a signature weapon of the Chapter, a modified Sea-Lance used by Chapter Initiates to hunt and kill one of the giant water snakes that they take their name from.
There is nothing nit-picky about the lore of 40k and the beloved Emperor. If we fail to adhere to the absolute word of the lore then the Inquisition will be coming for us faster than an Ork in a red buggy!
Production quality is first class great work!
11:46 the sergent in the middles armour is primaris aside from his helmet and jump pack. Just a heads up the easiest way to tell FB(in aquilon armor) from primaris is the kneecaps, gorgette and the helmet. Primaris have flaired kneecaps, large gorgette and there helmets have no grill(the thing that looks like a frowny mouth).
Their desig team likely doesn't know the difference, there's a few interesting mistakes that I think make hte vid far more interesting thna if they'd just copied wholesale.
Thank you for this. Now I have an idea how to do Captain Angelos’ third Company when I play DOW again.
We need the Primaris update. The Era Indominatus has changed the game!