Primary Arms Compact PLx-1-8x24mm FFP Scope Review: The Best LPVO?
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- We take the new Japanese made Primary Arms 1-8x PLx FFP compact scope with ACSS reticle to the range, go over its features, and what I think of it so far 🤙🏽
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PA Plx and Glx scopes are just fantastic. I don't even look at their silver series anymore unless it's for their microprism scopes which I hope make it onto the Glx line.
I bought the latest SLx 3x micro prism and sent it back, it was not worth the money, however I do love PA optics, I bought two of the PLx 1-8's and they are amazing LPVO's! I got the SLx Gen III 1-6 SFP for my Aero beater gun and it works well too.
@@Nowhereman58 they are pricing scopes three times their worth price to keep them out of the poor man's hands, if you think i am lying, check out how remington doesn't even offer a precision rifle any more, their line up is fudd garbage!
@@Nowhereman58 why'd you send it back specifically... I like mine. Light and 3x.
@@Nowhereman58 for the price doesn't the slx 3x prism beat an acog all day?
Your review confirmed for me what others have said. I've been trying to decide which lpvo to mount on my DD v7 SLW.
After watching multiple reviews and doing some comps, your endorsement sealed the deal for me. Ordered it from Optics Planet last night and got a decent discount. I'll post a follow up after I receive it. Thanks very much for the in-depth review!
You cant go wrong with PA ACSS optics.
I own both the SLX and PLX 1-8x ACSS models and LOVE them both.
I will say though, as great as the platinum series is, the lighter, more compact and less expensive SLX model gets the nod for me.
Its 2nd focal plane reticle just makes more sense for any LPVO of 10x and under and its glass and overall performance is so close to the much pricier models it really isnt a factor.
One thing for sure, whether silver class or platinum, the ACSS reticle systems are the best in the industry!
Really happy you did this review. Reaffirms my decision to buy this for my LWRC IC-A2. Awesome product is my novice impression as well. PA is really knocking it out of the park with innovation coupled to super quality and seems to punch way harder than the price point.
The scopes are nothing super fancy but man their reticles are killer. It's nice they have multiple price points for the consumer. I have a slx 1-6 ACSS and it's on my dmr setup. They is so much good stuff out there now. It's a great time to be a shooter.
If you're going to spend that much on an AR you might as well go ahead and grab a Knights Armament. Go all the way ya know
@@bmstylee it was a great time to be a shooter back when I could buy ammo for 20 cents per round
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 ah yes. And 555 packs of federal 22lr was $15. That and my local shop sold a variety of Eley and SK match ammo. Ah memories.
This soundtrack never gets old.. LOVE IT!
Primary Arms is so hard to beat these days. I used to be all about Vortex, but the reticles from PA are really amazing and for great prices.
Same here. Primary arms has replaced all my vortex optics
I had terrible luck with the RS-10 red dot. It kept shutting off on me when shooting. I had to return it. They have nice features but I'm already skeptical of their quality after my first experience.
I am interested to try one, I have a couple Vortex's (the1-10 and 1-8) and see how they compare.
The Razor Gen II 1-6 is still the fastest LPVO on the market all these years later. As clever and well done these ACSS reticles are, they still aren’t as fast as a good SFP reticle and super bright illuminated dot. Where the PLx-C really shines over the Razor is the light weight and the medium-long range capability. The glass quality is about equal on both, the Razor has better eye relief and more forgiving eye box. Basically the top LPVO choices right now are Razor HD Gen II for $1k (on sale) or PLx-C 1-8 for $1.5k. The PLx ain’t never going on sale lol. So you have the option to spend an additional $500 for an optic that is slightly better at longer ranges without compromising much at short range.
@@proverbialmind_spread9421 It's literally a roll of the dice, no matter what company you buy from. EVERY company (the major ones anyway) has a 10-15% return rate, at least. So you were just unlucky, just like I was. My first Primary Arms 1x prism, the screws that held the optic to the mount broke, on my first several shots while I was sighting it in. Broken screws inside the optic, 3 out of 4. It took 21 emails and 4 weeks to get a return label. Crap happens. But it can happen with other companies too.
LETS GOOOOOO! Currently saving up for this optic since I saw SupersetCA’s video on it. It’s such an innovative and well designed scope, wish it was daylight bright but with all the other pros this is definitely a great buy. Can’t wait to get mine
yeah, the shake awake feature would be nice. 🙄
at 1500 you can get the proven 1-6 vortex
Not necessary to be nuclear bright with this reticle style. On 1X, the thick full stadia lines and horseshoe/chevron are extremely fast with no illumination at all
@@kapower06 i noticed when shooting desert environments the reticle tends to wash out on bright days
I got one on sale for $1300, used the savings to buy a good QD mount for it. I can move it from one rifle, to a different one. Great Scope I feel better now after seeing this ! Thanks
wait this $500 optic was 1,300??
This is what I'm talking about!! Hearing this is such a great LPVO (from someone that really knows what they're doing) is invaluable. I hate it when reviewers get you with clickbait and then tell you "your use case will determine if something is worth the money or not". Thank you for the transparency, and the simple answer. Sounds like I need to go shake the couch cushions again!
How far out do you think MrGunsnGear is shooting ? I'd venture a guess and say, not any further than his corn/tobacco field lets him.
This means that he's not out there shooting this out to 750/800 yards and therefore he can't say much about how it's doing at those distances. Just sayin.
@rascalmatt6713 Using a few other context clues, I'd agree. I don't think anyone with half a brain and an AR chambered in 5.56 is trying to shoot beyond 500-600 yards at most. The reticle in this optic is another good clue as it has a BDC solution for 5.56. I now own one of these and can attest to its great build quality and usability out to reasonable distances.
Is there anything that he hasn’t endorsed? Honest question, but seems like every video I’ve seen is a product ad and not a review.
@@jonsie1734 this is one of the few channels where I don’t feel the content is “influenced” by $. I could be wrong, but he does so many videos that are meant to be informative and highlight many products at once just to show the difference in them. His comment about this scope is in line with the opinion of many other reviewers as well, so at least for this product, I believe he meant what he said!
A 30mm vs 34mm comparison would be great!
I have been looking for an lpvo for a year this is a sign thanks for the review.
Would love to see this scope compared with the new Eotech 1-10 FFP scope.
Great review, I've been waiting for this since you posted a few months back that you planned to review it. I've been a holdout on the LPVO and just used the 4X ACOG for years on my intermediate rifle, glad to see that everyone thinks so highly of this. Stay cool
Primary Arms is really making some great products and at a reasonable price. Their SLx 1x and 3x micro prism red dots are amazing and I believe the lightest you can get.
I was looking hard at this scope for quite a while, but just couldn’t get past the (lack of) daylight brightness. I found a NIB Razor 1-10 locally for $1,900 and jumped all over that instead. At 1x it’s full Aimpoint bright. If PA ever figures that aspect out, I’ll be happy to put one on my next build
Been waiting on this review. Thanks! I’m very excited about this optic.
I think it's cool how this company offers high tier AND affordable options that are still quality, for example i own their $200 md25 acss red dot and it works amazingly and also still looks cool
I have the FFP 1-6 (it's an SLx) and I was getting out to 550 yds with no problem. PA makes some good stuff. I know this 1-8 is probably awesome.
Getting more info on this lpvo has been what made me wait before buying a Razor or a VUDU lol. I’m glad I did too. I’m 99% settled on this one. Solid optic AND under 17ounces! Ftw👌
Not daylight bright and a reticle full of shit you won’t use… get the razor and do arms once a week.
@@user-yj7ph9vk2k I would use the reticle. And, I would use the significant weight savings.
I just picked up one of the previous gen plx 1-8x 4-5 months before this came out. Needless to say i was pretty salty about that lol. Definitely want one of these.
Plan on saving up for this, thanks taking the time get familiar behind the scope to do a review!
I’ve just been waiting to jump on the LPVO game until one around this size comes about. And boy am I excited to see what’s about to come
I’ve heard so much good things about this scope, and after your review I think I’m set on it. I’m going to purchase it for my new Tavor X95, appreciate your review ❤❤
I’d be really interested in a comparison between the older and newer model. Yes the older one is heavy by 10oz but the 34mm tube provides a much more generous exit pupil diameter. I feel exit pupil is the most often overlooked feature as it’s very helpful for unorthodox shooting positions. I’d also like to see a long comparison between this and every other LPVO you own!
Does it? The objective lens is listed as being the same size. Does tube diameter actually have anything to do with exit pupil?
@@darlsbarkley3493 yeah look at the specs on it, it’s like 11mm compared to 8mm in the compact
I got one this past week and have it mounted. I have not shot with it yet but everything from the packaging and the features on the scope seem like a good upgrade. So far I would buy again. Eye box is good at one power and tight at 8 power but very usable. It is a good compromise of features. Definitely did not seem like they cut corners which worried me at first since they are known for more budget products.
Dang it! I bought the first Gen 1-8x, as Carl (MSGT Green Beret) from Tactical Rifleman recommended it as the scope that he’d take to war with no questions or doubt! I prefer the mil-radian so that’s the one I purchased, and I love it. I total agree with Carl based on my use.
Then they come out with this one! I should of waited. I wait for all you TH-camrs to ring out the flaws, then I’ll pick one up when PA corrects them. If it’s as good as the first gen, then I’ll pick one up.
IMO, Primary Arms has great glass for the price. Maybe not the best, but definitely good enough for the average & precision shooter/first line/civil defense/militia/preparedness types. I do think, hands down they have the best Reticles on the market!
I love PA optics, nice seeing the wwsd in use.
i prefer 2nd focal plane for the large and full reticle. also you don’t need illumination in the daylight. if you’re going in and out of buildings turn it on to a medium setting and it will be there when you need it. i don’t need a rangefinder out to 300. if i need rangefinding i’ll turn it up to 6 as i prefer a 1-6.
I'd disagree about not needing illumination in daylight. Having a black reticle can sometimes make it hard to see it when there isn't contrasting colors behind, or if you're transitioning targets often. The illumination just helps the reticle stand out that much more.
Just bought one today. The griffin version. It was a tossup between the yards and mil version but I want to get very comfortable with mils.
I have their 1x6 aces raptor and love it. FFP as well
I have decided to get this for my Scar 17 just with its great reviews and PA warranty backing. Thanks!
@Mathew Long I ended up getting the EOTECH Vuuduu 1-10X and so far so good with different types of ammo.
Perfect timing man just about done with an 18 inch build and going to need another optic... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
I pre-ordered one back in May, finally got it a couple of weeks ago. I used Mrgunsngear code word for the mount and my vet status for 10% of. Still expensive but I am very happy with it.
yep putting this on my PWS MK116K MOD2 762x39 cant wait
I would like to see a comparison between the the old plx and new plx and if you include the new glx in the review that wold be awesome 👌
love this optic, still wish they updated the chevron. just making it more thin would help a long ways towards obscuring the target.
The problem with making the reticle thinner is that its more difficult to see quickly on 1x, especially since the reticle is not super bright. I have this optic, and personally I agree with SupersetCA’s assessment of “almost perfect.”
@@koozie83 Thats what the thicker horseshoe is for. The chevron need not be that thick because at 1x the Horseshoe registers as the CQC dot.
I mean...it would even be interesting if the chevron was smaller at the top with the 200-300 yd being dots traingulated to the smaller centered chevron instead...what say you dimitri? Get same sighting capability but less obscured target acquisition.
Yep. Make chevron smaller and have horizontal stadia to hold for wind when dialing with the MIL version. Then it’s perfect.
Great review as always Mike! I think this just hit the top of my short list for future optic purchases. Love an LPVO and this thing hits all the marks. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
I wish it was just brighter illumination. Also please torture test it
How do you like the Griffin reticle option? It seems like it has more capabilities? Also, did you get the yards or meters version? I just bought the Griffin reticle version of this for my Sig Spear Lt. Now I'm wondering if I would have been better off with the Raptor reticle?!! Lol
i have been following this scope for a few months now. this will be my next purchase.
Love Primary Arms. If I had the budget I would be all over this.
I already wanted one of these so bad and you had to make a video on it.
Just bought it with the save 12% site wide deal… hope I do not regret the reticle in Yards. Was trying to wait for the Mil or Griffin but lost patients. Save 193$ because brought the taxes down from 105$ to 92$
It’s a nice scope and I like it. A negative is that the eye relief is awful beyond 6x so much I rarely use 7-8 power.
Picked one up recently in meters. Very nice scope.
Man your green screen gets better and better huh? Great review, PA has been kicking butt lately. Always been but just feels like they're really coming into their own even on the higher end of prices.
I believe PA stated on IG that the M8 reticle was specifically designed to be viable without illumination, they have a bunch of good POV vids of this reticle at 1x on there as well.
Would love to see a comparison video as I have already purchased the ol' boat anchor scope which I almost regret because it's.......damn heavy, and I would love to hear how my scope is already antiquated and out of date.
Yours has a way better eye box though and is significantly less expensive
been holding off on selecting scope for a recommended mate for 6mm ARC newlywed 18”created AR. Will take a bit longer $ savings, but your review solves my past anxiety in a finial selection.
I hope you’re talking about the MIL version for a 6 arc.
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Things wet-dreams are made of.
If you know about ID me they partnered wit PA to get you discount. It’s just shy of 1.3k which still not cheap but it about the same price as a razor 1-6
One thing people are not considering about this scope. It's only 16.95oz 😳
I've gravitated towards the credo and accupower 1-8s as light transmission is pretty high up on my list as I shoot in low light quite a bit. It's pretty crazy to me that a 30mm can match or beat it. I wonder if the shorter body plays a part?
Can you do a review on the Vortex Razor Gen II 1x6 or Gen III 1x10?
can we get a comparison of the old and this new one?
If they could just get that dot....as bright as a Vortex Razor.....
It'd be everything, but damn I still might get it.
Just wait for them to drop a gen 2
@@Dunk1It1Hard Let's hope so, all I want for christmas is daylight bright lol
Great scope, PA is a great company, and while I respect the hell out of you and the information that you pass on, SDI is not a real gunsmithing school. There are few schools that are, and I’ve been fortunate enough to be able to attend one, TSJC in Colorado. Gunsmithing is a hands on skill, it requires someone to learn in person, not over the Internet. “How smooth is smooth?”, serious question. When working with action parts you need someone there in person to teach, SDI sells a package of hope, tools included, and will not count an actual gunsmith school as credit for any of their courses. When you enroll in a course, you are buying their package of tools that they sell with the “course” and you cannot opt out of them even if you already have the same tools of higher quality. I realize that most people can’t take 2 years off of their lives and go to Colorado, Arizona, or North Carolina, but what you can do in person is go to a community college and take machine shop or welding courses there, you’ll learn a lot more and you’ll have in person instruction.
Excellent as always!
I’m really interested in their GLX 1-6 FFP ACSS scope. That’s more in my price range ha.
Had one. Sent it back. Reticle/bdc holdovers are too thick for my liking. Was covering up a good portion of 12” targets past 300 yards. Glass is nice and clear on it though!
I know primary arms is pretty stubborn about “daylight bright” illumination in a etched sight.. They say it’s not meant to be bright during the day it’s only for low light..
FedEx just delivered this LVPO to me 4 hours ago. I unpacked it and immediately checked the glass that you are so impressed with. Comparing it to my 34mm Platinum 1-8 and the SLx FFP 1-8 you’re right on… there’s no comparison in clarity and quality in the Japanese glass. The eye relief is much improved over the other 2 as well. I’ll mount it in my Geissele super precision extended 30mm mount tomorrow. This is outstanding.
Mike, did you get the mrgunsngear promo code to work on the PA site? I'm curious if it gives a free mount with the purchase of an ACSS.
@@mdx9286 no I didn’t get it to work. I received an email from PA that they were in stock and I ordered it. I tried to find the code but was unsuccessful.
@@rockeye54 I couldn't get the code to work either. However, I went ahaed and pulled the trigger on LPVO while it's in stock.
@Mathew Long 10% off 1499.00 is $150 ! That is 1349.00 + the .gov taxes. How do you get the "discount" of nearly 33% ?
Great video! Love all your content. Would this be a good scope for a sig ar10?
Great review… Very well done with going over all options… Keep up the great reviews and thanks for fighting for our 2A rights..
How do you not have a million subs yet mannnnn? You got jipped
Love the geese
I wish you would have included the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8x24 in your chart @8:26 as it has almost identical specs to the PLx for 1/3 the price.
Otherwise, it would also be nice if you listed the parallax distance for each scope too.
(SpongeBob sweating) I don't need it... I don't need it........... I NEEED IT!!!!!
How does this LVPO stack up too the PA Raptor 1-6x. Garandthumb gave that scope a really positive review and it passed his torture test.
Would you do a review on the Delta Stryker 1x6 LPVO?
While I cannot compare to a razor 1-10x, NF ATACR 1-8x or S&B Short dot ect. The Gen2 PLx is by far nicest LPVO I’ve ever used.
That tan URGI looks like it might have a warcomp on it? Or maybe a closed tine? I noticed a spurt of gas coming out from the back of the RC2 mini.
I love PA reticle, if only they have it in green (yes, I know they have the predator green recticle, but I'd like to see it in their Raptor series)
So it’s not day light bright. If you used PLX-C with an offset.... would you pick this set up over the Razor II E 1-6?
I have been debating over this for a while now. I have handled the Razor II E 1-6 and was very impressed.
If you do the weight comparison - you can have a lighter set up with an offset dot with a true red dot AND a usable scope and reticle at distance.
I was waiting for you to do this review. Thank you.
I have two of these on my DD AR's. Shooting with this is just flat out enjoyable. It is by far the best LPVO I ever looked through and that includes the Vortex Razor Gen 3 1-10, and yes I had I used a rifle that had it on. That is a nice scope but I wouldnt purchase it if it were the same price as the PA Compact. I like the Compact that much. Opinions may vary.
I have read the PA Compact is a non starter for some because the reticle is not day light bright. That factors very little in my assessment. Its bright enough, and considering what you are getting its not enough to deter the purchase. In daylight I use the reticle alone. I watched SupersetCA’s review, and he called it "almost perfect". The daylight bright was holding it back from perfect.
I also read/heard ...dont remember where - that the PA Compact 1-8 is on the cutting edge of the technology. I have only shot it out to 200 yards thus far but the drop from the Chevron at 100 to the bottom of the Chevron at 200 is spot on. Cant wait to take it out further.
Bottom line I bought two of them and havent regretted it at all. It was a great purchase and look forward to every range visit when I use them. It is expensive for sure but you without a doubt get more than what you paid for. That doesnt happen every day.
I've got one on my DD MK12 and an LWRC IC A2. To think how much money you can spend on Nightforce, Schmidt & Bender, Unertl, etc. and get the same results for half the cost.
I swear, sometimes I believe my phone can hear my thoughts. I just released a video just a couple of days ago and in that video I said I am in the market for a new LPVO.
By the way, great video as usual 🤙🏼
Nice scope but don't like the window size. I know that Lpvos are the big thing with some people but makes no sense to me. I would rather have a 2.5-14×30 with a red dot mounted, make so much more sense and functionality
Sadly, I ordered one a few days before I found your channel!
My favorite intro music on your channel
I have a thing about not spending more on an optic than I did on the rifle I'm buying it for
Well stop buying cheap guns then
Do you put this above the Vudu hands down? It seems perfect for what I
was looking
for for my AR-10, does it being split between mil
rad and moa get confusing ? thank you for another quality video
If primary arms can ever figure out how to illuminate their scopes beyond dim maroon, they will be on top
Do you think it’s a pretty battle tough optic? Or would you recommend going with a ffp strike eagle or maybe a razor? I’m stuck between those
Between this PLx 1-8 and the Vudu 1-8, which would you recommend? I'm mounting it on my 5.56 Recce rifle. I see the benefit of both. I currently have the Vudu 5-25 on my 6.5 AR10 and I like that very much but I do understand the application for an extended range DMR is definitely different than on a recce/urban rifle
1-8 Vudu
Based on price and focal plane, I'd compare this to the Vudu 1-10 instead.
If you want the reticle to actually work then PA
Mike……at the 42 second mark……is that a B&T RBS 5.56?? If so please let me know your thoughts. Trying to get feedback on it as I am considering getting one.
The scope shots don’t do it justice. The bezel of the scope almost disappears like a razor 1-6 in addition to all the other features mentioned here. Truly the nicest LPVO I have used.
It's made by Light Optical Works Japan, who also make the Razor. That's why it's comparable, PA finally hired the guys everyone else goes to for primo LPVOs
@poisonouslead85 A Very Wise Choice for Primary Arms because the quality is there and also I know alot of guys won't Buy ANYTHING made in China
Mike, this over an EOTech Vudu? Really?
If so that is an amazing endorsement!
Ordered this scope yesterday and the “mrgunsngear” coupon code still works. Got a free $60 mount with it.
What's the durability of this vs maybe a Trijicon Credo 1-8x?
I don't understand why they can't do a reticle that's daylight bright. I have 2 Vortex 1-10 and those things are nuclear bright. This scope would be perfect if it were daylight bright.
The last Gen of this was heavy but man is it incredible. On my scar.
Love the acss reticle
I'd consider this for the size factor alone. I'm currently using a Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10, and while it's absolutely awesome and punching WAY above its weight class, it's fucking huge. This Primary Arms is perfect for an SBR setup... especially something that can reach different ranges depending on load, like 300 BLK.
I was looking at the swampfox as my first foray into lpvos for a 16". You'd still recommend after running with it for a bit?
@@ferrumchnop6617 Yes. But with the caveat of making sure the rifle you mount it to is not going to be integrally suppressed. I mounted it to my SBR (300 blk, 8.5 barrel, suppressed) and it took a previously 4.5lb rifle almost to 7lbs. I don't mind it, but it is something to consider. I'm planning on moving it to a different rifle, but I haven't decided what and why. I just want to make that particular rifle lighter again. Thing is built like a tank though.
Any interest in doing a comparison between the Primary Arms Plx 1-8 ffp and the eotech vudu 1-10 ffp? Thanks for your great reviews and updates on topics like the sbr/brace issue.
Finishing up my 3 gun rifle build now. I’ve been looking at this scope for some time now. With that said, what are your thoughts on this LPVO as far as 3 gun purposes go? Any thoughts and opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and great review as always!
I finally got one, but I got it at Rainer Arms without the mount. $1,250.00 Can I still use the code and call PA for a free mount? JK😅 The 1x8x24 Creedo I have will be passed onto another. Still like the Creedo, but it's heavy. This PA LPVO works great and is lighter. I just can pull the trigger on the expensive top tier when I'm using mid-tier firearms with top furniture, trigger and controls. That's the sweet spot for me because I can add a little at a time. I can't justify paying 2K more for a rifle or optic that I don't get to train with as much and with disabilities I ain't kidding myself about what I can do either. I appreciate manufactures providing decent equipment, parts and firearms to guys like me who at least have the capability to shoot 1 MOA once in a while. PA got this so right. I hope they stay the course.
Also, besides the code for free mount….does primary arms make a cap for offset dot….not that it matters too much the arisaka offset mount is cheap enough for a 509t or rmr
Would like to see you put this up against the Atibal XP8 FFP. You would be surprised 😁
I recently bought a Gen III Razor 1-10.. sold it and bought another PLX 1-8 Griffin MIL then they come out with the compact version 😂 just going to stick with the PLX for now, works amazing for mid range stuff
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Great video! I’m going to sell my first born child right now.😂
How does the eye box / relief compare to the strike eagle and also the razor? Thank you!
I have the strike eagle 1-8 the eye relieve is tight, the Razor is slightly better. Looking for an easy to get behind LPVO. Thx!
@primaryarms
Make a LPVO with these qualities and will be an absolute game changer:
1. Same excellent 1x
2. Same size and weight
3. Aimpoint bright!!
4. Top magnification of 4x! That is plenty and will help eyebox / scope performance. Magnification wars of LPVOs are losing sight of what the purpose is to the detriment of the performance.
5. Less busy reticle. Preferably the horseshoe with bdc drops. Leupold CM-R2 is about perfect.
6. Capped turrets
7. Clear cross hairs like the schmidt and bender
8. Oh yeah and must be FFP
I'm getting ready to buy a PA 1-10. Is the Raptor or Griffin reticle better for a AR 10 .308?