Overrated and Underrated Cars and Bikes | The PowerDrift Podcast
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In this episode of the PowerDrift podcast, Karan Singh, Varun Painter and Cyrus Dhabhar brainstorm around the most overrated and underrated cars and bikes in India right now. Grab your earphones, your bucket of popcorn, sit back and enjoy this hot discussion and some epic jokes in between for sure!
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Please add timestamps
Yes, or at least chapters like they did in previous podcasts.
underrated cars: ignis, altroz, new city, freestyle (gone)
overrated cars: creta, seltos, swift, baleno
overrated bike - re classic, pulsars
underrated - gixxer duo
PULSARS OVERRATED ??
@@TheZenith790yes.
Underrated Bike-Mahindra Mojo 300
gixxers true! just because they are pricier than the competition! I own the 150, someone gave me a honda saying see no vibration and all, I felt no, quite vibey 😅 but later I realized, gixxers have very low vibrations, such good and reliable bike!
@Ajay how please enlighten us
I had 2 Activa at my home. One used by my brother and one by brother in law. Both had serious engine issues when it reached around 70,000 km.
I recommend to get away from Honda when it comes to scooter bcs it will make us suffer from weak braking system. After switching to TVS Ntorq I've seen perfect braking in entire scooter market.
One observation on the Virtus suspension being harsh, yes it is harsh. I felt that the harshness is higher at 31 psi, when I increased it to 34, it's actually better, the car doesn't succumb as much I feel. Btw, I bought a Virtus topline in March, having owned a polo before that.
Looking to buy one, thanks for this
44:47 we have that sunset yellow one looks fabulous 😍 nice to drive ( there's only two in our city ) , it was launched when jaguar Ftype was introduced with sorrento yellow shade
Fantastic session - Please do more podcasts please. FIRE !!!
stupid information - this podcast is not FIRE. read around more.
I guess he wanted to say that the reliability issues which the virtus have had like the AC issues.. the driver side window not working properly.. and the interior quality specially at that price makes it a bit overrated.. at the end of the day if you have only 1 car which would not be a project car so take tuning and mods out.. you need a reliable car with the fun it provides.. it’s not a fun car if you have to go to the service centre every month for small issues.. I’ve had the duster previously the 110ps engine from the first lot and trust me that car was in the workshop for almost 4 months once.. It was a beast of an engine and amazing handling and ride quality but the expenses and frequent visit to the workshop made it a bitter experience overall.. As an enthusiast i would still choose that over any other compact or pseudo SUV to go for a road trip but my family won’t share that enthusiasm with me.. So yea the Virtus is a bit overrated
1st gen ktm duke 390 with slipper clutch!! It never gets old ❤
Loved your podcast❤
This is what we discuss when we are on rides on weekends with our biking group.
100% agree with Virtus being overrated.. I have a City and was going to "upgrade" to Virtus but just couldn't pull the trigger due to how uncomfortable a drive it is.
- Disagree. It's not as squishy or overtly soft as a City and it doesn't need to be. It is comfortable and the ride gets better as the speed increases and more stable at higher speeds.
Just a suggestion guys, can someone please put some thought into how those mics and pop filters are placed? Why not keep them on the other side of the speakers so that they obstruct the frame a little less? And also lower so that they dont cover their faces of the speakers. Make them a little less obtrusive. Thanks.
Very nice podcast… totally agree with you on everything..it’s just like what my friends and i talk like 👍👍
Surprised that no MG car was mentioned, with the kind of quality they provide it's certainly underrated.
You’re kidding right?!
@@MohanSharma-tp3xehe is not kidding. Not sure about structural strength. But in terms interior quality, fit and finish, it is 1step ahead than Hyundai.
Quality is unmatchable in its segment.
Activa is a perfect example for a marketing student for branding. Activa is something that richest of the richest own as well as the rags , there's no inferiority factor. this is a big factor ,let alone the reliability and service.
my 2 cents on the rc390 point that Varun brought up:
i dont think it is under-rated as everyone knows what performance it can deliver. yes, varun's point about it being more versatile is true, but there is only a double digit number of rc390 buyers who are racing on Sunday, going to work on Monday, then going for Dosa rides on Friday. For the general public, the 390 platform is still recognized as an "extremely powerful" bike.
about the function over form part:
i think ktm very intentionally made the front look like that, so its not that they focused more on function. if they stuck with the previous generation front look and did all the new changes, then you can say that they focused on function over form. otherwise, the front is very clearly intentional (as cyrus said, it looks so eugh)
Loved it.
Just a question, what do you guys think about the Kawasaki Z900???
Why Gixxer 250 is soo underrated in India?? It has the looks, performance and can easily smoke all the 250s in the segment, yet it is on the verge of extinction...
The service and sales experience isn't as good from what i heard and there are some niggles with it as well many have reported of vibrations post 6K on the odo teambhp has some threads on the vibration thing
@@vilehunter0074 Agree with the network and after sales.. Vibration in a Japanese motor seems strange though 🤔
@@ducatimultistradav4850 I own a bs4 Gixxer SF 250, the experience has been incredible . The service is great if you're in a big city and at a reputed showroom. Coming to the vibrations, even the salesmen agree that bs6 has brought in slightly more vibrations but at the end of the day it is a single cylinder ICE motorcycle vibrations are a part of the experience.
@@darren3105 Brother is the vibration too bothersome while ur riding?
@@ducatimultistradav4850 not at all, infact it can happily cruise at 120.
Thanks Cyrus for standing up for the Virtus. I am still waiting for a full review of the Virtus GT though.
Rightly said.... All Polo owners will/ would move to Virtus as an upgrade for sure. Nothing from Korea would impress with bigger HP numbers... German cars are far better for pure driving pleasure.
You know i have a polo gt and would probably get a virtus. But not anymore, its overrated and now im gonna upgrade to the Bolero Neo. 😊 vw has crappy plastics while the bolero neo has everything top notch. Well, thats what i learnt here.
i think the red tshirt guy doesn't research much on bolero neo price
@15:28, Honda Hornet first gen had a plethora of issues.
This podcast is definitely underrated.
RIP to the brains of the people who call 2WD/Two wheel drive huge crossovers like Creta, Seltos, Nexon etc as SUVs😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Gurkha should've stuck to the 2.2 engine that they had in the middle. I can compromise on the shitty interiors, but to me engine is downright disappointing compared to the thar.
I picked up an Ignis from Zoomcar. Boy-oh-boy it was so much fun to drive!
Have to agree about the Ignis ,bought one last year just because the Swift required a six month waiting period !
Hands down the old Rc looks like the best beginner bike🪐man those sharp angles
truely agree with the fact that the virtus is a overrated car and in that price option its better to go with the xuv 700 petrol mid version like the ax5 which makes more sense
A customer might not want such a huge car like XUV 700 so it cannot make sense that way.
Red one absolutely doesn't like Green one. Fantastic conversation overall!
45:19 - that didn't age well
45:20 They just introduced a Black Virtus 😎
I am planning to buy G310RR. I am really happy that someone said it’s underrated and I feel the same. ❤
Gonna get 310 gs soon. Yess it's one of the gorgeous bikes. Probably one of the best beginner premium bikes
@@Siddharthswamy18 Now you 've got baby triumphs.
@@GetYourselfALifeYou mean baby bajaj with a triumph logo?
@@derekobs9688 I pity about your knowledge.
Fully agree on Ignis ..
Proud owner of 2020 Ignis and very happy with my decision ❤❤
Good podcast but somehow the mic wasn't clear, not sure what the issue was with that though!!!
Honda CB350 owner here, it launched in December i think, i got mine in january. Rear alloy cracked, same problem with a few other CB's as well when ridden over a nasty pothole. Honda did not cover under warranty. Engine casing fin colour eroding with alllllll the CB's - Honda covered this under warranty and repainted. All the bikes in my batch had engine recall where Honda manufacturing engineers came to the service centre, opened the engine and worked on for an entire day, I forget what the issue was exactly, but it was of course covered under warranty. Running trouble free since then.
The bmw service experience has been a nightmare for us
Guys please make a separate Bike discussion request to not mix up with cars. Just a request
Or add timestamps
After CKD taxes 35-40 % cost of Fortuner in increased plus the royalty Kirloskar pays to Toyota makes it a hefty buy .
Next time when you do podcast, consider keeping the mic little bit far away from your mouth 😂
Yeah man too much disturbance and they are interrupting too much when one person is speaking thats unprofessional
lets have a MotorInc vs PD podcast war!! tht would be nice ??!!
Varun and Cyrus giving that looks to Karan like :-stfu dude
15:26 Can't go for Honda's new launches blindly nowadays - Honda CB300F
Husqvarna vitpilen is under rated !!! I know it's another ktm but the swedish looks sold me over the regular ktm looks !!!
Back looks like honda navi...😂 I hate that back view
😅 What I have in my garage!
Activa, Gixxer, AtherX, 390 adv, mix of all the underrated and overrated worlds! 😅
and will soon be buying the gt650 (not sure, depends on my salary and savings next year)
Nice where do you live and drive?
@@ishanp3196 Right now I am at home, a small town Jalpaiguri, west bengal. Soon going back to Bangalore
Karan started by saying, Virtus is the MOST OVERRATED car to end up saying it is a slightly overrated car🤣🤣 I mean come on man what is going on🤣🤣. Every VW car is going to be slightly overrated naturally because of its enthusiastic history. And the reason is that these cars deliver. I would take Cyrus's opinion more seriously since he actually knows more about cars and he owns one too!
I would watch Varun and Cyrus talk about bikes and cars forever❤
Talk about testing, how much did Ultraviolet tested their bikes before launching 😜
Can someone shed some light on whether honda is planning to get cb750 hornet to India?
39:42❤
tvs after sales support not at the mark of yanaha Or honda and reliability is a serious issue my wego is really fun to drive and better than activa, but not in terms of reliability it troubles you a lot, throttle cables, starting issue, battery issue, annoying sound, meter failure and lot
tvs ntorq is love 🥰 just wanted 2ble suspension in back too
To sum up virtus is overrated. Harsh to drive, quality is bad. Bolero neo is underrated. It has the GOAT old scorpio chassis. Triumph tiger sport is as good as a 390. In a previous podcast scorpio n was a favourite. Compares verna to aston martin. I can clearly see his amazing sense of taste in cars and am absolutely blown away by his thoughts. He loved his swift cos it would conk off at every signal. That dexterity. He reviews the virtus and verna with such enthusiasm while cyrus reviews that trash can, microwave oven inspired, green car 😂.
Congratulations powerdrift… what a find !!
And Cyrus and Varun, you guys rock ! ❤
You guys missed Kawasaki and hero 😂😂😂 54:56
Pulsar F250 dual channel abs is one of the MOST underrated bikes on it's way to extinction
Needed timestamps 😢 most of the topics are not interesting but have to watch anyways
podcast started with VW Virtus... and none of the 3 guys knew much about it. not expected from a 'expert panel'
Better sound quality and timestamps guys!
We have a Activa and a Jupiter in the family, Jupiter is maybe 4-5 months older and has ran at least 4,000 km more, but the Jupiter panels rattle, it is very bad at starting(not just cold start, even if you start it after 10 mins of wait time). And the suspension is almost dead. Jupiter is no where as reliable in the long term as the Activa.
Personally I don't like any scooter so I don't have and personal preference here.
Completely agree with varun on activa.
Varuns topi xD gold 😂
Never did podcasts before. Was like, its an hour long. I wouldn’t last 😂. But trust me i did and had to double take at parts, especially when one says they don’t like the 1st gen 390
Pulsar is not overrated. it sells bcz its reliable in the long term.
And TVS is not issues free.
its just that issues dont arise soon. its in long term ownership TVS has severe issues like rusting on Chassis, Engine problems, Clutch plate issues , Paint issues, Wiring and electrical issues.
Finally podcasts ❤
Something wrong with the mic... It could be more clear
Activa to scooters is like Parle-G to biscuits😅
Felt like more of a car video rather than bike
Bro is like"absolutely! listen to me now."
Underrated -Vento - Specially the tsi . It had the same engine as the polo but sold in lesser number . Handles better , better space , huge boot .Now discontinued 😢 overrated - s presso. Considering the numbers sold. Who even considers that a car. Either buy a Alto or a wagon r
Varun be looking like a young SRK 😭
RE Clasic 350 just an over rated one
RC390 definitely sound a mosquito buzz after its hit by a repellent. Or its just the name it carries today. The riders called as Narangi, Santara, Macchars and they way 95% of te owners ride it, justifies all these slang. A phenomenal bike, on and off the track, I have seen RC390 in good hands beating the shit out of ltr class at MMRT and Kari. But that bike has been plagued by horrible owners antiques and terrible portrayal on chapri insta reels. The another fabulous bike that has met the same fate is Yamaha R15. It was the favorite before anything else happened. But the typical chapri attire, the chappals, skinny jeans, blue or golden hair dos killed it. No offences to any of these owners but thats how it is.
Bahaha true that's why I don't feel like buying r15 even though it's a good one, let alone even look at ktm bikes dude the chapri people DESTROYED ktm😂
Please take topic on Ic engine which were iconic
Give more space to Karan too please
Totally agreed with ola/activa being overrated. It's simply herd Mentality, period!!!
The Yamaha 250 twins are the biggest underrated bikes
I see ola scooter being tested on blr hosur road
i mean when you speak about the Activa - you are from Pune ...log toh thokenge hi! lol
Varun painter's Neck is XXL . Might give mike tyson a complex.
Hahahhahhahha!
gixxers are underrated, little bit pricey than the competition.
ELITE Motorcycle Enthusiast!!! WON my HEart!!! :D
You forgot to invite Joe Rogan in this podcast.
u forgot fortuner in the overhyped car segment
Oh yes I am Gurkha fan boy ! .And i dont care damn about Thar . And Yes Thar is most hyped up pseudo SUV .Yes having said about Gurkha yes there's ample scope of improvement. Atleast it's not hyped as you thought it is. You know I love it for how it is understated or keeping low profile.
Do an episode on tax component on new car purchases, spares, tires, fuel etc and TCO of cars.. add to it average income of Indians
4.41 brutal FACT..😂
need to get a new and better microphone
Duster 1.3 turbo petrol is one underrated car
Please improve mic quality
yess I dnt like activa😂 and Fortuner 🤣
Same here 😄
Finally someone accepted that tvs has better build quality and reliability. TVS ❤️
Somehow I agree to every point varun brings to the table. 🎉
My man!
For me
Most overrated cars
1. Toyota Fortuner
2. Seltos / Creta twins
Most Underrated cars
1. S Cross
2. MG Astor
Citroen C5 Aircross - underrated
Parsi baba has a hilariously dirty mind 😂
The Mic output voices are bad, cant Hear What they say when Another is Also taking, one At Time please, or Solve the Issues With The Mic
Please get better mics. I thought my speakers had gone bad.
I think these three are no experience with long term ownership of vehicles or maybe they are just rich enough to buy new vehicle when the current vehicle starts causing problems...
Consider repairablity too...
Maruti and Honda vehicle are easily accessible and repairable..
I own Ford Fiesta classic and access 125..
Both are headache
Why does OLA have a fan base?
But after 12th pass need RE Classic to become Panchayat President.
Requesting Cyrus to please speak up. Sometimes it feels like he is just whispering
Bro Gixxer250SF.... u missed it man>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I own gle when people tell fortuner is comfy n cool try atleast gla you will realise the luxury