When connecting an external monitor without sound you can drag the control center and that media app top right corner has an antenna logo (triangle with circles) that allow you to elect where the sound goes
Great explanation! I’ve got an iPad Air and want to have a desktop for basic spread sheets, writing, and social media. I can do all that in just the iPad but it would be so nice to have a desktop. Now I know I can. Thanks!
Imagine what it would be like if or when they put USB-C on iPhones. A computer in your pocket! For everyday stuff like web browsing, TH-cam, this is great. Whether this could replace your computer would depend on what you apps you're running. MS Office, Turbo Tax? Love the idea however.
Been trying this out. One thing that drives me crazy is when a text box isn’t activated to type into by default. For example, when you open App Launcher, it’s the sole text box on the screen but you need to click on it to be able to type. Really hope Apple improves the window management and such by default. It’s crazy how TH-cam charges you for a PIP View.
Without proper scaling and secondary display support, it's still not worth it. Despite iPads being better tablets in pretty much every way, Samsung Dex makes their tablets (and phones) just so much better for a desktop experience.
It’s totally worth it depending on your use case. I literally hooked up my iPhone to an external display, speakers and a mouse and keyboard, and I could do anything you could do on a chrome book? Obviously it’s just a different interface than a desktop, and so it has totally different use cases. Content consumption, basic office work like spreadsheets or typing, Google cloud or Dropbox for storage and it’s a computer. Add basic photo editing and iMovie and you could run a TH-cam channel off of one. So it is what it is. Only thing it really lacks is ports.
@@ghost-user559 I'd agree with you if you already had the iPhone and peripherals, however if it were a choice between that and a decent laptop/tablet, I'd go with the latter option every time! It also makes more sense if you're running with an iPhone with a 16/9 screen, because you won't get the ridiculous black bars due to Apple refusing to add a basic feature like proper external screen integration. I agree that you can just about do everything, however a phone screen blown up to 24-27 inches is not particularly suitable for word processing, and the port issue is less of an issue than it used to be, but it'd be nice to have. To solve that issue, you'd still need a dock, preferably one with passthrough charging. At that point you might be spending just as much money, if not more for a definitively worse user experience. Just for bragging rights of saying that your phone is your main computer. Some day, I think phones will make the desktop irrelevant, but it's going to take a lot better desktop level apps, a much better user interface and a lot less hassle before people start to use it in that way. It works for some, like yourself, but for most, it simply isn't particularly practical.
After getting the surface pro 8 I realized just how crazy the iPad as a main computer is. Windows 11 and the surface pro 8 is a true laptop replacement tablet. My iPad pro 11 feels like a luxury compact internet/entertainment device, like Jobs intended it to be.
@@cimino318 Yeah but the advantage of the iPad is form factor. For research and full size pages on old documents and book archives the iPad wins because it’s essentially a luxury kindle as well. I’m not sure I would use a surface for reading a book or research papers. And that form factor alone makes a huge difference.
Wow this is so great, thank you so much i never knew that there's an app that mimick the stage manager type of feature without the M1 iPad. This is nuts, a must buy app for my brand new ipad 10! 😎🔥
I can't believe you made a review if ipad mini 6 can be a desktop replacement whitout running any productivity apps like word, excel, etc... how is youtube and media consumption the only thing you tested
I have had the same issues with the audio. I’m watching this in the desktop mode right now using my iPad mini 6. Using my Keychron K3 and the Logi M575 trackball with this and I’m loving the setup! Split screen and all the goodies come to life in this desktop mode.
Dear Fernando, Logitech MX Keys mini just came out. Please please please do a comparison between that, Satechi slim X1 and Apple Magic keyboard for Mac. 🙏🏼
Thanks for this. Now I know what it apparently CAN'T do. First of all the Ipad's screen should display in the external screen's native resolution and screen ratio (16:9 for most desktop monitors and tvs and at least in 1920x1080). Second of all it should offer the option to turn off the built in display to save battery AND be able to connect a USB keyboard and mouse through a docking station's USB ports so BlueTooth can stay OFF (again to prolong battery life) Also it would be nice if Ipads in general could make use of RJ45 ethernet through a docking station again to save battery (WiFi off).
Fernando, good video sir. I appreciate you sharing this experience with us. Especially that ShiftScreen app. I hope it's free. 😅 If it isn't then it'll still be worth the investment. Are you one of the developers? 🤔 😊
Is there any noticeable latency? I’m imagining using my monitor with my iPad for mobile gaming. Connect a Bluetooth controller and “boom” gaming system
The problem there is you don’t use it during a long period to show a work flow, moving to an app and scroll youpiiiii but at the end I still have all my questions!
Love the desk setup bro! I noticed you did some a-roll shots with your iPhone. Could u share what phone rig setup u use? Do you have it clamped to the desk in that holder or does it sit on top?
HI, DID YOU CHANGE MICS just about a minute in? The second one was softer and not so clear, alto acceptable. I notice it as I'm using headphones and I have to reset volumes... not so cool.... But anyway.. carry on... I m interested in the topic of using another smaller iPad as a main unit.
Hello Fernando, thanks for your video. Would you still recommend a new apple user to try using the mini 6 as a computer for normal use and some word doc writing?
Fernando, se voce abrir o painel de controle no iPad em tese voce consegue trocar a saída de audio, clicando no ícone que fica acima do player. Veja se funciona! Abs
I’m subscribed, have watched your videos for months and find them interesting, informative and often original. However, of all of the tech TH-camrs that I follow, your sound quality is consistently the poorest. I don’t think I’m alone in this opinion. ..
I haven't noticed it, and I have watched his videos on my desktop and on my phone - also on my alexa show. His setup is also less "edited" when compared to the standard tech youtube set, which does give a more honest vibe...
Hello Fernando, first of all thank you for the enthusiasm with which you have been showing us Ipad and IPadOS. I have a difficulty related to the Magic Keyboard and Google Docs. Accents in Portuguese do not work in the web version. This is a subject that is already identified by several users, but I can't find a solution. Do you have any ideas about this situation, can you help me? Thank you and wish you much success.
You can do a lot more than that. I wrote a book on one. You can use all the office applications like pages and you get iMovie for basic editing and GarageBand for music recording. You could run a while TH-cam channel off an iPad, but they just don’t market them like that so people don’t know. Hook up a soundbar and keyboard and mouse with Bluetooth and an external display, and you have a mini desktop. And even an iPhone can do all of the same things.
How about using Google Sheets on the ipad Mini. I know the screen is small but still wondering how functional it could be while on the move. Like can I pinch to zoon close enough into a cell and then type in the content I want. Perhaps have a website open and cop and paste text into those Sheet cells
I have been trying to find a similar analysis for doing this on the iPad 9, which has lightning. Most HUBs these days are USB-c, which would be remedied with a lightning adaptor, but I wonder if the transfer rate would be too different to make that impossible...
You can get a lightning to HDMI adapter, BUT you don’t get a hub, and so you would have to use it more like a chromebook with cloud storage. But you can easily use usb keyboard and mouse and even a soundbar for speakers, so the only thing you don’t get is ports or hubs. I used google drive and similar solutions to turn an old iPhone into a mini computer.
I need the iPad to be my remote for my windows desktop when I'm far away from it, so my question is if I put a USB flash drive through the SOHO hub can the remote windows read it or if I download the file to the iPad can I copy the file from the iPad to the remote windows I'm streaming ?
iPadOS Safari is still garbage compared to desktop browsers. If Apple allowed the Chrome engine on iPad, Shiftscreen would be pretty much a ChromeOS machine.
Thanks Fernando Very informative video it's exactly what I want to do with my iPad Mini Question here s was wondering can I hook up my iPad Mini to my 2009 iMac desktop and u use that as my secondary monitor instead of buying a second monitor Any reply or sugustions would be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance
This would work great (with any iPad Pro or Mini) if, if and only if, the iPad Pro/Mini was able to have an external mic, camera, external ssd like a Macbook. It doesn't and until it does the iPad Pro or iPad Mini are only stand alone products. Not sure what the problem Apple has since the power in the M1 chip is there.
iPads make for great 2nd monitors via the Sidecar app. In the case of the MacBook Air, you could plug the MacBook into an external monitor in addition to using Sidecar. That would extend the MacBook to 3 displays, even though it only supports 1 external monitor.
You can use the iPad camera and the microphone on the iPad while you are doing this? So I’m not sure what you miss out on. Obviously you can use cloud storage, and the device itself is a tablet not a desktop. And I think you CAN use external storage for the Pro because it’s usbc.
is it okay to use it while charging? and keep it plugged in even in 100%? been doing this for almost a month now and i'm worrying for my ipad's battery health.
Don’t do it long term. Make sure you unplug it and drain it a few hours a day. And really it will kill the battery eventually, but as long as you have AppleCare or you are ok with using the battery replacement program (like 100$ a battery), than it’s not a bad deal, still cheaper than an iPad and a computer. Get a refurbished Mac mini if it’s 24/7 plugged in.
can i connect it to my old sony tv using an hdmi cable? however, saying that you can use ipad as a computer is always a bit risky. the literature supporting this thesis is very extensive and detailed.
@@sansaarai Same reason why Dex mode is so awesome, you can hook up a magic keyboard and arc mouse in which you now have access to all the channels you no longer needs apps for. Easier to scale a website than an application. But meh if the experiance is identical to that of my ipad. Your better off using a mac mini for this not an ipad. Ipad to external is crappy but looks like improvements have been made since last time I tried based on this.
@@sansaarai I cant speak for the person but likely because an ipad does not provide the same desktop experiance. I am assuming they already know they they can use a hdmi/type c dongle with any tv.
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What is this?
It's amazing to see all productivity you see here are running completely on ARM architecture. I mean look at him recording this video using iPhone...
When connecting an external monitor without sound you can drag the control center and that media app top right corner has an antenna logo (triangle with circles) that allow you to elect where the sound goes
You can switch back to iPad speakers from control centre. I have done this while my iPad mini is connected to monitor.
Great explanation! I’ve got an iPad Air and want to have a desktop for basic spread sheets, writing, and social media. I can do all that in just the iPad but it would be so nice to have a desktop. Now I know I can. Thanks!
Imagine what it would be like if or when they put USB-C on iPhones. A computer in your pocket! For everyday stuff like web browsing, TH-cam, this is great. Whether this could replace your computer would depend on what you apps you're running. MS Office, Turbo Tax? Love the idea however.
Don’t gotta imagine anymore what you said came true finally!!
Been trying this out. One thing that drives me crazy is when a text box isn’t activated to type into by default. For example, when you open App Launcher, it’s the sole text box on the screen but you need to click on it to be able to type.
Really hope Apple improves the window management and such by default. It’s crazy how TH-cam charges you for a PIP View.
Without proper scaling and secondary display support, it's still not worth it.
Despite iPads being better tablets in pretty much every way, Samsung Dex makes their tablets (and phones) just so much better for a desktop experience.
It’s totally worth it depending on your use case. I literally hooked up my iPhone to an external display, speakers and a mouse and keyboard, and I could do anything you could do on a chrome book?
Obviously it’s just a different interface than a desktop, and so it has totally different use cases. Content consumption, basic office work like spreadsheets or typing, Google cloud or Dropbox for storage and it’s a computer.
Add basic photo editing and iMovie and you could run a TH-cam channel off of one. So it is what it is. Only thing it really lacks is ports.
@@ghost-user559 I'd agree with you if you already had the iPhone and peripherals, however if it were a choice between that and a decent laptop/tablet, I'd go with the latter option every time!
It also makes more sense if you're running with an iPhone with a 16/9 screen, because you won't get the ridiculous black bars due to Apple refusing to add a basic feature like proper external screen integration.
I agree that you can just about do everything, however a phone screen blown up to 24-27 inches is not particularly suitable for word processing, and the port issue is less of an issue than it used to be, but it'd be nice to have. To solve that issue, you'd still need a dock, preferably one with passthrough charging. At that point you might be spending just as much money, if not more for a definitively worse user experience. Just for bragging rights of saying that your phone is your main computer.
Some day, I think phones will make the desktop irrelevant, but it's going to take a lot better desktop level apps, a much better user interface and a lot less hassle before people start to use it in that way. It works for some, like yourself, but for most, it simply isn't particularly practical.
After getting the surface pro 8 I realized just how crazy the iPad as a main computer is. Windows 11 and the surface pro 8 is a true laptop replacement tablet. My iPad pro 11 feels like a luxury compact internet/entertainment device, like Jobs intended it to be.
Well the surface is a laptop lol it runs full windows in a tablet form factor
@@YaBoySavior actually it's a tablet which runs full windows. Hence not being sold with a keyboard.
@@cimino318 Yeah but the advantage of the iPad is form factor. For research and full size pages on old documents and book archives the iPad wins because it’s essentially a luxury kindle as well.
I’m not sure I would use a surface for reading a book or research papers. And that form factor alone makes a huge difference.
Wow this is so great, thank you so much i never knew that there's an app that mimick the stage manager type of feature without the M1 iPad. This is nuts, a must buy app for my brand new ipad 10! 😎🔥
That looks dope! Shiftscreen has come a long way 👍
I can't believe you made a review if ipad mini 6 can be a desktop replacement whitout running any productivity apps like word, excel, etc... how is youtube and media consumption the only thing you tested
I have had the same issues with the audio. I’m watching this in the desktop mode right now using my iPad mini 6. Using my Keychron K3 and the Logi M575 trackball with this and I’m loving the setup! Split screen and all the goodies come to life in this desktop mode.
damn, Shift Screen is sick AF!
Yes to all the mini content!
I love my iPad mini, thank you for the awesome video.
Thank you!
bro the mic is insane i was thining when wearing headphones is going sound form my monitor !!
Dear Fernando, Logitech MX Keys mini just came out. Please please please do a comparison between that, Satechi slim X1 and Apple Magic keyboard for Mac. 🙏🏼
That was magic he put the pencil on the mini and it flipped around
This is ipad mini 6 is stronger!!!nice setup man!!
Thanks for this. Now I know what it apparently CAN'T do. First of all the Ipad's screen should display in the external screen's native resolution and screen ratio (16:9 for most desktop monitors and tvs and at least in 1920x1080). Second of all it should offer the option to turn off the built in display to save battery AND be able to connect a USB keyboard and mouse through a docking station's USB ports so BlueTooth can stay OFF (again to prolong battery life) Also it would be nice if Ipads in general could make use of RJ45 ethernet through a docking station again to save battery (WiFi off).
Fernando, good video sir.
I appreciate you sharing this experience with us. Especially that ShiftScreen app. I hope it's free. 😅
If it isn't then it'll still be worth the investment.
Are you one of the developers? 🤔 😊
Loving the setup 🔥
I'd go with a Air over the Mini 6 because the Air uses the M1 chip which would be better for desktop use.
Can you use lumafusion with shiftscreen?
Thanks Fernando
Thanks!! Just what I needed!
Bro, are you brazilian? Your English is perfect!
Type c is way better than lightning, btw wondering if you could make a video on playing games on external monitor
Never thought of this - So i dont need an IMAC just yet :P
That lumefusion and shit screen app are cool. It would be cool if you did a video of all apps that work in a unique way in monitor mode
*Shift lol
Thanks for this! I’ve had the mini since it launched in September and didn’t know it supported video out. I thought that would be a Pro only feature!
Is there any noticeable latency? I’m imagining using my monitor with my iPad for mobile gaming. Connect a Bluetooth controller and “boom” gaming system
Why even using external monitor if you still have to reach the tablet most of the time? For example switch app, go to home screen, etc.
Use Magic Trackpad then
Use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard? He just likes to touch the screen because you can and it’s more fun.
Yo! your channel is growing! Keep that shit up!
Good video and info. However, at time 11:20 your audio volume dropped a good amount.
The problem there is you don’t use it during a long period to show a work flow, moving to an app and scroll youpiiiii but at the end I still have all my questions!
I LOVE YOUR TABLET STAND/HOLDER. Please i will like to know the name of the company that made it and the name of the tablet holder
Best idea 💡 ever .
Thank you! Cheers!
Hello, great video. Do you still recommend shift screen?
What model is the benq monitor?
manifesting ipad mini 6!!
you'll get it soon!
Love the desk setup bro! I noticed you did some a-roll shots with your iPhone. Could u share what phone rig setup u use? Do you have it clamped to the desk in that holder or does it sit on top?
this set up is what i want when i have one :))
its an awesome set up!
Very friendly
HI, DID YOU CHANGE MICS just about a minute in? The second one was softer and not so clear, alto acceptable. I notice it as I'm using headphones and I have to reset volumes... not so cool.... But anyway.. carry on... I m interested in the topic of using another smaller iPad as a main unit.
caramba seu ingles eh ótimo parabéns, vc cresceu nos EUA ?
Hello Fernando, thanks for your video. Would you still recommend a new apple user to try using the mini 6 as a computer for normal use and some word doc writing?
Fernando, se voce abrir o painel de controle no iPad em tese voce consegue trocar a saída de audio, clicando no ícone que fica acima do player. Veja se funciona! Abs
Can you give me the link of your tripod where you have your second iphone? thanks!
Cute computer
I’m subscribed, have watched your videos for months and find them interesting, informative and often original. However, of all of the tech TH-camrs that I follow, your sound quality is consistently the poorest. I don’t think I’m alone in this opinion. ..
I haven't noticed it, and I have watched his videos on my desktop and on my phone - also on my alexa show. His setup is also less "edited" when compared to the standard tech youtube set, which does give a more honest vibe...
He diesnt use a microphone and he uses his iphone pro max to rec
Correct me if im wrong
Too quiet from 0:46
Hello, can I ask you, what is the type of the Benq monitor?
+1
Hello Fernando, first of all thank you for the enthusiasm with which you have been showing us Ipad and IPadOS. I have a difficulty related to the Magic Keyboard and Google Docs. Accents in Portuguese do not work in the web version. This is a subject that is already identified by several users, but I can't find a solution. Do you have any ideas about this situation, can you help me? Thank you and wish you much success.
Do you think iPad mini get heat up after 2hours if you connect with monitor
It’s awesome
Ipad mini 6 or ipad pro 2018 for gaming, media consumption and possibly light drawing
You can do a lot more than that. I wrote a book on one. You can use all the office applications like pages and you get iMovie for basic editing and GarageBand for music recording.
You could run a while TH-cam channel off an iPad, but they just don’t market them like that so people don’t know.
Hook up a soundbar and keyboard and mouse with Bluetooth and an external display, and you have a mini desktop. And even an iPhone can do all of the same things.
What is the name of the app that scales to full screen on the external display?
Please, is this using the HDMI port on the monitor? I want to use a Samsung TV I have.
I didn’t know there is mouse support. Are you watching the iPad or the screen when you use the mouse?
It’s under “Accessibility Controls” I think. Mouse and cursor.
How about using Google Sheets on the ipad Mini. I know the screen is small but still wondering how functional it could be while on the move. Like can I pinch to zoon close enough into a cell and then type in the content I want. Perhaps have a website open and cop and paste text into those Sheet cells
I have been trying to find a similar analysis for doing this on the iPad 9, which has lightning. Most HUBs these days are USB-c, which would be remedied with a lightning adaptor, but I wonder if the transfer rate would be too different to make that impossible...
Lightning, believe it or not, is USB 2.0
@Fabián Horta Yes it does. You can buy lightning to HDMI adapters. I used one to watch Netflix on a TV using my iPhone.
You can get a lightning to HDMI adapter, BUT you don’t get a hub, and so you would have to use it more like a chromebook with cloud storage. But you can easily use usb keyboard and mouse and even a soundbar for speakers, so the only thing you don’t get is ports or hubs.
I used google drive and similar solutions to turn an old iPhone into a mini computer.
Can i connect the ipad mini to my laptop computer in the same was u have connected it to your desk top monitor?
I need the iPad to be my remote for my windows desktop when I'm far away from it, so my question is if I put a USB flash drive through the SOHO hub can the remote windows read it or if I download the file to the iPad can I copy the file from the iPad to the remote windows I'm streaming ?
iPadOS Safari is still garbage compared to desktop browsers. If Apple allowed the Chrome engine on iPad, Shiftscreen would be pretty much a ChromeOS machine.
Thanks Fernando
Very informative video it's exactly what I want to do with my iPad Mini
Question here s was wondering can I hook up my iPad Mini to my 2009 iMac desktop and u use that as my secondary monitor instead of buying a second monitor
Any reply or sugustions would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
How are you running keyboard and mouse? Is this usb into the screen?
What lamp is that next to your desk...
How long does the battery last with the monitor connected ?
The BenQ monitor can charge the iPad at the same time. I have the same monitor
@@jasonteh5858 which Benq monitor is this?
How about launching vertical only app? Does it auto rotate on external monitor or stays as is on ipad, so I will have to rotate the monitor instead?
Dont buy Shiftscreen it doesnt work
Which mouse and keyboard are you runnin.
those black bars D:
how TF is doesn't scale?!
This would work great (with any iPad Pro or Mini) if, if and only if, the iPad Pro/Mini was able to have an external mic, camera, external ssd like a Macbook. It doesn't and until it does the iPad Pro or iPad Mini are only stand alone products. Not sure what the problem Apple has since the power in the M1 chip is there.
iPads make for great 2nd monitors via the Sidecar app. In the case of the MacBook Air, you could plug the MacBook into an external monitor in addition to using Sidecar. That would extend the MacBook to 3 displays, even though it only supports 1 external monitor.
You can use the iPad camera and the microphone on the iPad while you are doing this? So I’m not sure what you miss out on. Obviously you can use cloud storage, and the device itself is a tablet not a desktop. And I think you CAN use external storage for the Pro because it’s usbc.
Try it on iphone
can this iPad disable screen while you using external monitor?
probably not. you may lower the screen brightness of iPad
can you turn off the iPad's display and keep using it in the "desktop" or "docked" mode?
If I installed shift screen for iPad 9th gen to dell E1916Hv monitor does it works are not
Love your videos but voice after intro could get louder...
Тот случай, когда купил MacBook Air, чтобы твой iPad Peo M1 стоял повыше
I think the aspect ratio of the Mini may be 3:2 instead of 4:3? At least 3:2 photos display exactly on display
Does it run Stage Manager nowadays?
is it okay to use it while charging? and keep it plugged in even in 100%? been doing this for almost a month now and i'm worrying for my ipad's battery health.
Don’t do it long term. Make sure you unplug it and drain it a few hours a day. And really it will kill the battery eventually, but as long as you have AppleCare or you are ok with using the battery replacement program (like 100$ a battery), than it’s not a bad deal, still cheaper than an iPad and a computer. Get a refurbished Mac mini if it’s 24/7 plugged in.
For some reason I use a external monitor and the sound comes out of my iPad no idea why.
the ipad does that by default
Can we use
Netflix snd prime ott in monitor.
Or it does not support full mode on monitor
Netflix and YT could go fullscreen on the monitor like no black bars at all.. wish all apps could do that..
Why is this video so quiet?
Your monitor is between $400 and $1000. Can I get an exact pricing?
right in the middle. $699
First you didn’t want the iPad mini now you want it 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Why was he using a mouse when he was recommending the Magic Trackpad?
Because it’s in a box and I was too lazy to grab it
@@fernandosilva lol, glad I asked!😀
What’s the name of the monitor you’re using?
He said Ben Q. I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s spilled
Why do I keep hearing some ticking voice while you talking?
Can you do this with iPhone 11?
actually yes! you just need to use a HDMI to lighting
So unfortunate not being able to dual boot to macOS , a hybrid iPad for all occasions.
can you do gaming and browsing at the same time on it?
your sound is very low buddy
I would Not recommend it, resolution you gonna get max 2500pxs can't use 4k monitor
can i connect it to my old sony tv using an hdmi cable? however, saying that you can use ipad as a computer is always a bit risky. the literature supporting this thesis is very extensive and detailed.
Why?
@@sansaarai Same reason why Dex mode is so awesome, you can hook up a magic keyboard and arc mouse in which you now have access to all the channels you no longer needs apps for. Easier to scale a website than an application. But meh if the experiance is identical to that of my ipad. Your better off using a mac mini for this not an ipad. Ipad to external is crappy but looks like improvements have been made since last time I tried based on this.
@@elizabeth3280 why is it risky?
@@sansaarai I cant speak for the person but likely because an ipad does not provide the same desktop experiance. I am assuming they already know they they can use a hdmi/type c dongle with any tv.
Apple should've pay you for your promotion!
the ipad mini can share the same screen ojn a monitor! that's the feature it was missing to be a pc! BS
2021 and Apple still not support microSD cards because then their customers would be juiced less.