OK...so I tried it out on my LG B7 OLED and it actually worked! It fixed an issue I was having where the screen appeared as if it was having some interlacing issues. Basically, the image around certain parts would look like every other line wasn't being drawn properly. I set the SX to both 4:2:2 and 12 bit color (previously 4:2:2 was disabled and the bit color was set to 10 bit) and everything now looks great. Thanks a lot for this video, it really helped a bunch.
Aren't we supposed to set bit depth to 8 bit? What was your problem exactly? Colorbanding? I use also the B7 with 8bit and 422 disabled don't have those interlacing issues. As recommended before. But sometimes I think there is color banding... At least I would expect more from HDR xD
I checked this on my Series S and I can tell YCC4222 on 12 bit in RGB mode makes the games smoother gradients, better darks and detailed brights. It’s almost I have a different tv!
Short and sweet indeed! V is for Vincent and "visual" guru. The Murideo's calculator is more comprehensive than their previous HDMI bandwidth chart. I wish you would have commented what was the optimal setting for the CX in that case. To all who complained about Vincent never pointing out the negatives of OLED, piss off. He's always mention "flashing" artifacts with near black gamma, vertical stripping and uniformity issues with moving near black full screens, automatic brightness limiting, HDR peak brightness at 10% windows only. In almost every single review! I bought a C9 last year fully aware of all these shortcomings thanks to Vincent. Imperfect and all, OLED is still the best performer for dark room viewing. True blacks, vibrant colors, wide viewing angles.
Thank you for this video the next time I'll meet you on a TV presentation event (Samsung, LG, sony or other) I'll come to say hello and congratulate you on your work! I'm a French journalist and I've already met you, but I didn't dare to bother you in the middle of your work. Hope to see you soon Kind regards, David
Another thing you can do is call your TV's customer service line to see if your TV natively supports 4:2:2. If not, then it's best to turn it off, because it can actually introduce further input lag or even other issues.
Thanks for all your in-depth coverage on the latest consoles! One game I wish you'd look into is Destiny 2 because HDR white levels are never accurate. I could never darken it enough to look proper on my TCL, but when I use my PC on the same TV HDR limits are leveled correctly & it looks amazing! It's been like this for several years. Great work Vincent!
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a way to get back into an instagram account?? I stupidly forgot my account password. I would love any help you can give me
@Damari Henrik Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great info here. I was using 2.0 oled and I knew something was wrong with the colours. Couldn’t believe that ycc option will make such a difference.Now games look a lot better at least until I can buy an 8k oled.
Good for you :) For video you may want to still use 420 though! All videos are 420, that is all blu-rays and all videos on streaming platforms. Just FYI.
Hi Vincent. I know this video is a few years old but I'm trying to get an answer about my Xbox Series X paired with my new Sony A95L. In regards to streaming Netflix from the Xbox, if I leave "allow YCC" off the TV shows an input signal of YUV 10 bit 4:2:0, and if I enable "allow YCC," the TV shows an input signal of YUV 8 bit 4:2:2. I'm not sure which setting I should be using for best quality and color. Any help is appreciated!
A lot of people including myself have had the random black screen especially on boot up. Its basiscally intermitent and goes away for some and for some it only happans watching bluray or streaming movies but for me it sometimes happens in the game. Now theres videos that say turning off YCC 4:2:2 and raising your high fidelity setting to 30 bit solves the problem. For now it seems to work, how ever i believe its not related to those settings and may be linked to Microsofts update. I basically leave mine turned off, however when its turn on it does no matter if you are in a game or whatever it pops up a black screen with the message about an update. I believe the update settings is bugged when its turned off. Why do i think this? Because everytime my Series X acted up with the random intermitent black screen i have gone into the update settings to check for an update and every time there was an update ready. After updating the black screen issue seems to disapear for awhile until the next update. I am not saying this is the true reason but it seems to be linked to it somehow.
Okay, understand! My TV's HDMI 2.0 support! So my Xbox Series X console 3840x2160@60Hz, YCC 4:2:2, 12-bit, Standard recommended (RGB Limited) settings is good! But my Samsung TV's dashboard what's the mode gaming? Gameconsole mode or PC mode on TV's dashboard setting??? @hdtvtest
I've been scratching my head over this for months now. I have the Xbox One X + LGC9. I want to know if I should check or uncheck 422 when I'm playing games. I want the less input lag possible. I've tried both and I can't see any difference
If you want less input lag, use a wired game pad, and use a lan cable instead of WiFi. Some people recommend to set the Xbox to RGB pc mode and downgrade the resolution to 1080p. Ycc422/12bit has nothing to do with latency, it’s helps to view the games with better details. The resolution is the key factor which could create few ms delays. The Xbox One X definitely has delays in 4K. I am not sure about Series X as I have an Series S. If you don’t like 1080p on a 4K screen I recommend you to get a hdmi2.0a hdr scaller edid rekorder with hdcp2.2 support for better upscaling or/and buy an old 1080p panda plasma with low response times for gaming.
@@dangr3957 Thank you very much for your detailed answer 👍🏻 I noticed some differences when I do play in 1080p yes. Especially in games like Horizon 4 or Call of Duty. I might want to buy the Series X , but it's quite hard to get here in France.
Thank you so much! Just found this out myself, seeing how I am in the process of setting up a 4K matrix 4x4 switcher throughout my house. 2.1 fiber cables are extremely costly. And I couldn’t justify the cost, not to mention potential incompatibility issues, with fiber 2.1 cables being so new to the market. A great work around is the 12-bit, 4:2:2 settings, which take full advantage of hdmi 2.0 spec. Thank you for this video... there isn’t much out there on this. 😉👍
@@rolandcarriage Personally I would leave it to “Standard”, keep input to “HDMI” - NOT PC or Game Console… I say this because it will result in lower latency, but also lower brightness/contrast.
@@rolandcarriage just to clarify, setting to “HDMI” mode will result in higher brightness, better contrast, and better overall picture quality. Might want to change picture mode accordingly
Nem láttam semmi különbséget HDMI és Game Console mód kiválasztásakor! A PC Mode valóban nem a legmegfelelőbb választás HDMI 2.0-ás támogatású tévéken...
Another great video and way to disprove the non-believers (they know who they are). Thanks also for the calculator, very handy for us non-professionals.
Sir, I am very grateful of this video as it has fixed the delay on the monitor. For example, as I move the thumbstick during a fps game it felt like my input were a whole minute delayed. The only fix was the YCC option because after testing my 1.4 hdmi, it feels smooth without any disturbing delay. By the way, I've had never had this issue before until I upgraded to the new gen consoles.
Your videos are extremely helpful. I can get most of my Xbox HDR stuff to look great on my 2018 TCL 6 series, but select games and movies (like Elder Scrolls Online or the movie Cars) do not look HDR with the "Dark HDR" setting on the TV. It feels almost like some sources from the Xbox Series X are being tone mapped too low by the TV. Have you experienced this?
I have the same TV. I use the Bright HDR mode and have it dialed in. In my opinion, the colors pop very nicely and I don’t lost anything in the blacks. Gamma is set to 2.4 for HDR gaming.
Since Sony is not considerate enough to provide such granular signal information, any idea if there's a benefit to enabling this setting when connected to the X900H? I know you said it really only benefits HDMI 2.0, but I can't confirm if the 2.1 ports on this TV are actually allowing 4K @ 60hz @ 4:4:4 with that setting disabled.
Tried this on my KS8000(US), Allow YCC 4:2:2 with 12-bit on a 4K HDR 60FPS game and looking at the gradient of the sky this caused banding/shimmering and flickering. Seems best to leave Allow YCC 4:2:2 OFF on this TV, but OK to leave it on 12-bit because it seems to switch to 10-bit automatically for HDR games. 12-bit on non-HDR games seems fine without problems.
Precisely... And i have a vizio v555 g1 series x... Pc rgb.. Dolby vision... All tv assists off.. Esp backlight control and black levels\black details off.. Gamma 2.1
This all seems massively complicated for a games console. I bought a series x and my screen keeps going black for a second. Took it back and the new one did the same thing. All my other HDMI stuff works on that TV so I think I'm gonna get a refund and go for PS5. Utterly ridiculous from Microsoft.
Could you do a video on if the Xbox Series X’s Blu-ray playback could be improved via software? Not sure if it’s a hardware issue or a “they need to care more” issue.
No it shouldn’t Even 4K60hz 12 bit 422 is only 17.82 GB. But besides that. If you want the best gaming!!! Experience you should always uncheck ycc 422 be it sdr or hdr. There are only 2 reasons to check this options while gaming: 1. You want better color gradients in trade off sacrificing other parameters 2. The very very rase case when you get issues outputting a 4k60 444 signal on your device. That’s basicly it. Keep in mind I talk about gaming only! IMHO you should never check ycc 422 as Long as you don’t have issues with your rendering device
@@blayedtheking5140 it depends on your tv and how it handels different incoming Signals. For Example: best case is having colordepth 8 Bit and ycc 4:2:2 unticked for non hdr content. I have a 2016 65“ Samsung ks 9500 ( high End Model) But for various reasons i have to use 10bit with ycc 4:2:2 allowed. My Model doesnt handel 8bit 4:4:4 very well. It Ends up in very high Input lag.. but thats Samsungs fault. With 10 Bit ycc4:2:2 i have no Inputlag and very Minor Quality Loss. Give it a Try. Go for Optimum ( 8 Bit with ycc 422 NOT allowed ). If you dont notice any Inputlag Stick with it. If You notice lag and or artifacts on your Screen Go for 10 Bit and ycc 422 allowed. Hope i could help you ✌🏻
I've been scratching my head over this for months now. I have the Xbox One X + LGC9. I want to know if I should check or uncheck 422 when I'm playing games. I want the less input lag possible. I've tried both and I can't see any difference
Great video! I've toggled between the two and 422 displays less banding on my Panasonic GZ950. Though my Pioneer AVR says it's 422 24 bit (the same as it says with Dolby Vision). Need to find the Panasonic service menu to confirm as I feel it's actually in 422 36 bit!
I have the Dell S2721DGF. I play at 1440p/120hz with HDR off. Should I keep YCC 422 On or Off? There's alot of debate around this monitor on Reddit and I can't find a solid answer anywhere. Also any suggestions? Like is it better with HDR on or with a different bit depth?
I have a question... I just bought a Philips TV, called The Xtra, and it has 2 4K 120hz HDMI ports (they must be 2.1 for sure) with VRR and Dolby Vision compatibility . The thing is that, when pluging in the PS5 it displays all the abailable options (4K, 120hz, VRR, HDR10...) but when I plug my Series X or my friends' Series X, the image in games goes all pink and green. It doesn't matter what I play, it only goes back to normal when disabling 120Hz and setting it back to 60Hz. It doesn't matter the resolution, the VRR or HDR settings, it's only with the 120hz mode enabled. Is this an XBOX problem or is it a Philips problem?
Xbox Series X: (HDMI 2.1) 3840x2160p@120Hz, All turn on settings (Only YCC 422 DISABLED), Colour Depth: 10-bit Colour Space: RGB Limited And your TV's dashboard change to PC MODE!!! (This is full YCC 444 Chroma) And your TV's settings important: Blacklight and Contrast Maximum, Sharpness Zero, Colour half (50 or 25) Contrast Enhancer Low, Colour Tone Warm2, Gamma BT.1886, Colour Space Settings Allow Auto (DCI-P3 for games, BT.2020 for movies) Understand?
Awesome video…in the morning when I go to play “Cyberpunk 2077” on my XBox Series X using a Sony X900f I will see if this is enabled or not…and I cannot remember if I have it set to 8 bit or 12…or maybe it is on 10. The game looks absolutely stunning I am so happy with this 5 year old HDTV I cannot imagine it looking any better. :)>
Loving your vids and I have a Question, in regards to a Sony 900h. I have a series x and a ps5. I don’t plan on 120fps gaming on the ps5, just 4K 30-60 fps fidelity mode games. If I have the Xbox on the HDMI 2.1 (HDMI 4) port and the ps5 on a standard 4K dolby port (HDMI 2), will I lose graphical quality on the ps5 not having the HDMI 2.1, or just the 120fps options?
Is their a clear significant difference in picture quality between the xbox and a dedicated 4k blu ray player? Say the xbox series x picture quality compair to the oppo 203 or is the or is the picture quality minimal?
I'm running a Xbox series x and Sony 900e and it looks really good with no banding etc with it not on. Guess I could try it out and see if it looks even better.
@@oldb3139 I have an onkyo receiver+ Sony TV XH95. Both only HDMI 2.0 If i enable 422 option,the receiver shows 422 24bit. If unchecked become 420 30bit. Hmmm,better off no??
Vincent is wrong about one thing. HDMI 2.0b can handle YCC 444 with NO compression at 4k 50/60p! My 2015 4k TV is a Samsung JS8500 48" with HDMI 2.0b. On my Xbox One X, there is no reason to use YCC 422 when it can handle YCC 444. So no point in turning on YCC 422. Only useful for TVs older than HDMI 2.0b, like 1.4. Now you know the truth.
60fps movies look weird. I think hollywood should increase it though. But it just looked strange with gemini man. Some people still do not know most movies are 24fps.
I have a Samsung KU6290 which is HDMI 2.0 60hz UHD. RTINGS says it supports only 10 bit color depth. Should I leave YCC 4:2:2 setting off on my Xbox Series X?
I got a cat 6, your limited by the port on the series x. I think it’s 1 gig, but gaming doesn’t use that much actually, according to that I’ve read. Anything past 5e is over kill, I just found a 6 at Best Buy and bought the shortest one I could.
LG B6 here, so HDMI 2.0. When I check the 422, what colour depth should I pick? 8, 10 or 12? I alway thought 8 because it automaticly go up in hdr modus. Is this still the case? And what about auto HDR mode? Does that make any difference? Sometimes I think the colors are a bit off.. tnx for respons, keep it up 😏
Put it to 12 bit! Ycc422 is the only way to display 12 bit colour on a hdmi 2.0. It’s works really well on older tv’s especially if you are using a hdmi 2.0 hdcp2.2 hdr scaller Edid recorder.
I have an onkyo reciever between the TV and Xbox. With 422 ticked it shows ycbcr 24 4:2:2 for halo infinite, but when unticked ycbcr 30 4:2:0. This can surely not be correct? The first one must be shown incorrect since it's hdr 60fps? Possible that my onkyo doesn't recognise the 36 4:2:2 and instead shoe 24 4.2.2?
No it shouldn’t. Unless all you care about is color gradients. If you watch only movies that might be a different story but when it comes to gaming there is NO reason to check this option. Do NOT check this option when you play hdr or sdr. In best case you get better colorgradients but also missmatch source content as it is intended and how it’s output on your Screen. Worst case varies from tv to tv but once again. When it comes to gaming do NOT use this option.
If your TV/Monitor doesnt support 12-Bit it is not usefull. For HDMI 2.0 with YCC 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 + 8-Bit or 10-Bit I would go with this: If you play a game with HDR (better native HDR and not the "Auto-HDR") I would choose 10-Bit with YCC 4:2:2 (14,85 Gbit/s), but if you play a game without HDR like Fortnite (on the Xbox Series X/S) I would choose 8-Bit with YCC 4:4:4 (17,82 Gbit/s). Why? Because you cannot see much difference, except HDR is on and HDR benfits from 10-Bit much more. Thank me later.
A HDMI 2.0 valóban látja 8-biten YCC 444 (PC Módban), de ha HDR10-es játékkal játszik a YCC 420-ra le eseik automatikusan 8 vagy 10-biten is! Ezért használja a 12-bitet YCC 422 engedélyezését és tartja játékok közben is ezeket a beállításokat...
So heres the thing, i own a acer monitor with a native resolution of 1600x900p and my xbox one is set to 720p, pc rgb is on since the monitor supports it but i dont know if i should enable 4:2:2 or not. Youre saying not to enable if your monitor or tv doesnt support 12 bit whcih mine doesnt abviously, but does it have any negative effect if my hdmi port isnt hdmi 2.0? I dont know if its 2.0 or 1.4 since as much as ive looked online for my monitors specs, nothing shows up in terms of what hdmi version it is, so im not sure if it supports hdmi 2.0 yet with ycc 422 disabled blacks look like real blacks yet any other color doesnt seem to show much difference i would say. Only blacks look darker which i feel like that should be the case with it but um im not sure.
On Lg c1 ps4 pro showing yuv422 HDR but bit depth as 8bit, if i set yuv 420 manually its signal info showing 12 bit hdr but colors are worse than yuv422 specially blues, if i turn off hdr ps4 pro in automatic shows 4k in 8bit rgb, how it's possible i thought yuv422 is a 10bit signal
Hey Vincent I have a question. I have a Samsung Q80T and a Series X. I was wondering how can I find out for sure what subsampling my TV is displaying. I don't know of any info the TV gives out or anything
My TV has hdmi 2.1 ports but they are only able to do auto lo latency mode, from what iv read in reviews. I have had 4k blu rays playing through my blu ray player with certified high bandwidth hdmi, and I'm seeing data transfers from blu Ray player to TV of 40 + gigs. Would this apply with the xbox also, so what exactly are my TV hdmi ports capable of with the xbox? Should I change the setting in this video or leave it? Please could you clear this up for me very confusing.
Hello do by chance know what I am doing wrong? I have a LG CX 48 Oled. I am trying to play Forza Horizon 4 on the new Xbox. I'm thinking I have done something wrong in setting options within the new Xbox. The screen is full screen in the game but the left side of the screen is one way and the right side of the screen is another way leaving a line down the center showing how the screen is full screen but split down the middle? Do you know a fix? Thank you
Couldn’t you just set your tv to the pc setting to force it to do 444 all the time? Would this work on TVs that support chroma 444 or are there potential drawbacks?
What about having a 2.1, HDMI TV but in the display settings in your console put 1080p 60hz instead of 4k 120hz while still having checked ✔️ the alow 4k box on seriesX?. What I see it's that nobody is talking in TH-cam how whatching 4k content trough a 1080p port (specially if it's a 2.1 HDMI port) everything looks 10 times better. How in the world a very good calibrator like you Vincent doesn't ever discuss this very important setting about Xbox and TV'S.? Only respect.✌️
when I enable 4:2:2 chroma, 4K HDR content plays in 8 bit 4:2:2 instead of 12 bit. SDR works great, playing in 4:4:4 and 12 bit, but that’s because I’ve set the Xbox to HD 1080p. Is this strange? When I disable 4:2:2, I’m able to get 4:2:0 at 10 bit HDR 4K Edit: this is a series s by the way, but I figure that shouldn’t make a difference?
Interesting! I have question about PS5 hdmi bandwidth which is 32gbps! Do you think Hardware wise Sony can uncapped the signal to 48gbps for 12bit 4.4.4? Since many people dont know to go with cheaper C1 G1 (40gbps hdmi) or C2 G2 which support 48gbps hmid bandwidth!
Really? This guy keeps flip flopping and changing his mind between TV manufacturers and TV technologies..apparently every Oled up until this years models weren't bright enough to correctly output HDR 🤷♂️🤣
I was having issues with my Series X resorting to 480p when I turn it on my CX. I had the 8k zeskit HDMI 2.1 cord and it fixed it. I think you do want to invest in a better HDMI cable to better help the handshake.
Experience this at random times as well with my CX and Series X; so you’re saying replacing the HDMI cable that comes with that console for a higher bandwidth one solves the issue?
Xbox One X (not series), LG C1 and HDMI 2.1 Cable Should I enable or disabled that option? Also, HDMI Input, Game or PC? I know PC Enable 4:4:4.,- but i dont know if the Xbox One can get any benefit with that enable using a 2.1 cable
But isn’t it the case that even when connected to a hdmi 2.1 tv the Xbox series X will revert back to the hdmi 2.0 Tmds method when outputting anything other than 4K 120? For example when watching a blu ray on the series x it doesn’t matter if the tv supports 2.1 it won’t use the bandwidth available anyway as it only uses FRL for a 4K 120 output.
Can someone tell me why I have to keep enabling YCC 4.2.2 to display true 4k on my portable monitor? If I enable it the game is fine, but when i switch games I have to disable it and the games work again, then I switch games and enable it and the game works at 4k again, it seems to be a fickle thing for me, the hell is going on?
Hey I watched your video on setup with the ps5 but I feel that my blacks are still too dark on the Xbox series x. What would you suggest to change that?
I have an xbox series x hooked up to an Acer Nitro XV272U (VBMIIPRZX version) monitor. Can you tell me which boxes I should have ticked on the xbox series x TV and display options please.
OK...so I tried it out on my LG B7 OLED and it actually worked! It fixed an issue I was having where the screen appeared as if it was having some interlacing issues. Basically, the image around certain parts would look like every other line wasn't being drawn properly. I set the SX to both 4:2:2 and 12 bit color (previously 4:2:2 was disabled and the bit color was set to 10 bit) and everything now looks great. Thanks a lot for this video, it really helped a bunch.
Aren't we supposed to set bit depth to 8 bit? What was your problem exactly? Colorbanding?
I use also the B7 with 8bit and 422 disabled don't have those interlacing issues. As recommended before. But sometimes I think there is color banding... At least I would expect more from HDR xD
@@skydivin4ng3l My tv is an ru7100 samsung. Should I enable it?
Oh boy, I’m going to test this right now.
Thanks for the information. 👍🏼
Been fiddling around with this setting for a while.
It's a no brainer to have it ticked no matter what TV you fool.
short and sweet like the appendages of a ginger bread man!
lol
Did you mean sweet or sweat? I haven’t seen a ginger bread man sweat.
Most videos are 420, so if Xbox passes 420 without touching it, it will be better. Much better.
🤣🤣🤣
Lolol
Thanks for all the great content you upload. I would love to see a video about the best settings when using a RTX 3080 connected to a CX!
Damn it. All these years. This is great and true advice.
Can’t wait for your 8k oled reviews
You give very good info keep up the good work brother.
I checked this on my Series S and I can tell YCC4222 on 12 bit in RGB mode makes the games smoother gradients, better darks and detailed brights.
It’s almost I have a different tv!
Do you hve the 50hz and 24hz on
Vincent, you are the man!! Good content like always
I'm subbing simply for the reason of your fans loving u for getting straight to the point and for u having an amazing teaching voice
One of the best channels on this platform, thank you. :)
Thanks for taking your time to make this explanation.
literally last night i was playing state of decay 2 on XSX and wondering about this!
Vinny, you psychic bastard! haha
Short and sweet indeed! V is for Vincent and "visual" guru. The Murideo's calculator is more comprehensive than their previous HDMI bandwidth chart. I wish you would have commented what was the optimal setting for the CX in that case.
To all who complained about Vincent never pointing out the negatives of OLED, piss off. He's always mention "flashing" artifacts with near black gamma, vertical stripping and uniformity issues with moving near black full screens, automatic brightness limiting, HDR peak brightness at 10% windows only. In almost every single review! I bought a C9 last year fully aware of all these shortcomings thanks to Vincent. Imperfect and all, OLED is still the best performer for dark room viewing. True blacks, vibrant colors, wide viewing angles.
Was just looking at this setting last night. Now I know what it does....
Thank you for this video
the next time I'll meet you on a TV presentation event (Samsung, LG, sony or other) I'll come to say hello and congratulate you on your work! I'm a French journalist and I've already met you, but I didn't dare to bother you in the middle of your work.
Hope to see you soon
Kind regards,
David
Another thing you can do is call your TV's customer service line to see if your TV natively supports 4:2:2.
If not, then it's best to turn it off, because it can actually introduce further input lag or even other issues.
The comment I was after, cheers big ears
8bits+ frc panel like my Samsung QLED Q70B can support 422 at 10-12 bits?.
Thanks for all your in-depth coverage on the latest consoles! One game I wish you'd look into is Destiny 2 because HDR white levels are never accurate. I could never darken it enough to look proper on my TCL, but when I use my PC on the same TV HDR limits are leveled correctly & it looks amazing! It's been like this for several years. Great work Vincent!
I dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a way to get back into an instagram account??
I stupidly forgot my account password. I would love any help you can give me
@Damari Henrik Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Damari Henrik it worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thank you so much, you saved my account :D
@Tate Martin no problem xD
Probably cause it’s a TCL
How long would it have taken us to realize this without the video? Btw, the calculator is pure gold too!
Great info here.
I was using 2.0 oled and I knew something was wrong with the colours.
Couldn’t believe that ycc option will make such a difference.Now games look a lot better at least until I can buy an 8k oled.
Good for you :) For video you may want to still use 420 though! All videos are 420, that is all blu-rays and all videos on streaming platforms. Just FYI.
Did you activate or deactivate the oled?
Don't buy 8K, it's a waste of money currently, especially for gaming
8k for what series x ? 😅
Hi Vincent. I know this video is a few years old but I'm trying to get an answer about my Xbox Series X paired with my new Sony A95L. In regards to streaming Netflix from the Xbox, if I leave "allow YCC" off the TV shows an input signal of YUV 10 bit 4:2:0, and if I enable "allow YCC," the TV shows an input signal of YUV 8 bit 4:2:2. I'm not sure which setting I should be using for best quality and color. Any help is appreciated!
A lot of people including myself have had the random black screen especially on boot up. Its basiscally intermitent and goes away for some and for some it only happans watching bluray or streaming movies but for me it sometimes happens in the game. Now theres videos that say turning off YCC 4:2:2 and raising your high fidelity setting to 30 bit solves the problem. For now it seems to work, how ever i believe its not related to those settings and may be linked to Microsofts update. I basically leave mine turned off, however when its turn on it does no matter if you are in a game or whatever it pops up a black screen with the message about an update. I believe the update settings is bugged when its turned off. Why do i think this? Because everytime my Series X acted up with the random intermitent black screen i have gone into the update settings to check for an update and every time there was an update ready. After updating the black screen issue seems to disapear for awhile until the next update. I am not saying this is the true reason but it seems to be linked to it somehow.
In these hard times we need more jokes like the gingerbread man joke.
Okay, understand! My TV's HDMI 2.0 support! So my Xbox Series X console 3840x2160@60Hz, YCC 4:2:2, 12-bit, Standard recommended (RGB Limited) settings is good! But my Samsung TV's dashboard what's the mode gaming? Gameconsole mode or PC mode on TV's dashboard setting???
@hdtvtest
Absolutely brilliant definition ❤️
I've been scratching my head over this for months now. I have the Xbox One X + LGC9. I want to know if I should check or uncheck 422 when I'm playing games. I want the less input lag possible. I've tried both and I can't see any difference
If you want less input lag, use a wired game pad, and use a lan cable instead of WiFi. Some people recommend to set the Xbox to RGB pc mode and downgrade the resolution to 1080p.
Ycc422/12bit has nothing to do with latency, it’s helps to view the games with better details. The resolution is the key factor which could create few ms delays. The Xbox One X definitely has delays in 4K. I am not sure about Series X as I have an Series S.
If you don’t like 1080p on a 4K screen I recommend you to get a hdmi2.0a hdr scaller edid rekorder with hdcp2.2 support for better upscaling or/and buy an old 1080p panda plasma with low response times for gaming.
@@dangr3957 Thank you very much for your detailed answer 👍🏻
I noticed some differences when I do play in 1080p yes. Especially in games like Horizon 4 or Call of Duty. I might want to buy the Series X , but it's quite hard to get here in France.
Mercy.. does he make these joke like up or are they written before hand??👌
Thank you so much! Just found this out myself, seeing how I am in the process of setting up a 4K matrix 4x4 switcher throughout my house.
2.1 fiber cables are extremely costly. And I couldn’t justify the cost, not to mention potential incompatibility issues, with fiber 2.1 cables being so new to the market.
A great work around is the 12-bit, 4:2:2 settings, which take full advantage of hdmi 2.0 spec.
Thank you for this video... there isn’t much out there on this.
😉👍
Yes, dude! But the "Colour Space" setting Standard (recommended) or PC RGB? And my TV's dashboard what's on mode "Gameconsole mode" or "PC mode"???
@@rolandcarriage Personally I would leave it to “Standard”, keep input to “HDMI” - NOT PC or Game Console…
I say this because it will result in lower latency, but also lower brightness/contrast.
@@Dreamer-79Really? Thank you so much!
@@rolandcarriage just to clarify, setting to “HDMI” mode will result in higher brightness, better contrast, and better overall picture quality. Might want to change picture mode accordingly
Nem láttam semmi különbséget HDMI és Game Console mód kiválasztásakor! A PC Mode valóban nem a legmegfelelőbb választás HDMI 2.0-ás támogatású tévéken...
Another great video and way to disprove the non-believers (they know who they are). Thanks also for the calculator, very handy for us non-professionals.
I been using this it makes a great difference
Sir, I am very grateful of this video as it has fixed the delay on the monitor. For example, as I move the thumbstick during a fps game it felt like my input were a whole minute delayed. The only fix was the YCC option because after testing my 1.4 hdmi, it feels smooth without any disturbing delay. By the way, I've had never had this issue before until I upgraded to the new gen consoles.
Sorry for my terrible english as I am quite exhausted at the moment...
So did you turn it on or off
Your videos are extremely helpful. I can get most of my Xbox HDR stuff to look great on my 2018 TCL 6 series, but select games and movies (like Elder Scrolls Online or the movie Cars) do not look HDR with the "Dark HDR" setting on the TV. It feels almost like some sources from the Xbox Series X are being tone mapped too low by the TV. Have you experienced this?
I had the same thing watching The Punisher on a 6 Series with an Xbox
I have the same TV. I use the Bright HDR mode and have it dialed in. In my opinion, the colors pop very nicely and I don’t lost anything in the blacks. Gamma is set to 2.4 for HDR gaming.
This man is my hero
Since Sony is not considerate enough to provide such granular signal information, any idea if there's a benefit to enabling this setting when connected to the X900H? I know you said it really only benefits HDMI 2.0, but I can't confirm if the 2.1 ports on this TV are actually allowing 4K @ 60hz @ 4:4:4 with that setting disabled.
Hi. I read that Dolby Vision technology doesn't need HDMI's 2.1 bandwith and uses YCC 444 anyway so... Checked or Unchecked in that case?
Tried this on my KS8000(US), Allow YCC 4:2:2 with 12-bit on a 4K HDR 60FPS game and looking at the gradient of the sky this caused banding/shimmering and flickering. Seems best to leave Allow YCC 4:2:2 OFF on this TV, but OK to leave it on 12-bit because it seems to switch to 10-bit automatically for HDR games. 12-bit on non-HDR games seems fine without problems.
Precisely... And i have a vizio v555 g1 series x... Pc rgb.. Dolby vision... All tv assists off.. Esp backlight control and black levels\black details off.. Gamma 2.1
I have the same TV as you. So you put this setting to "off" ? Do you have any specific settings in your TV enabled?
This all seems massively complicated for a games console. I bought a series x and my screen keeps going black for a second. Took it back and the new one did the same thing. All my other HDMI stuff works on that TV so I think I'm gonna get a refund and go for PS5. Utterly ridiculous from Microsoft.
Should the video fidelity be 8 bit, 10 bit or 12 bit on a Samsung TU7000 ?
That’s what I wanna know on my LG
@@NefG615 what's The answer?
Could you do a video on if the Xbox Series X’s Blu-ray playback could be improved via software? Not sure if it’s a hardware issue or a “they need to care more” issue.
Vincent, do you think MS will fix the issues you outlined in your other video when you compared XSX and PS5?
If the problem exists in the OneS/X then I wouldn't assume they will fix it.
@@robertt9342 well they fixed an earlier issue with raise blacks in the black bar area so I don't see why they wouldn't fix this
@@ragdalis All they've done is port the app across, it's lazy and half arsed which is why I had a lottery playing 4k discs....
What about for the Samsung Q90R, which has a hdmi 2.0+ port (port 4) at 24Gbps? Should 4:2:2 be enabled here?
No it shouldn’t
Even 4K60hz 12 bit 422 is only 17.82 GB.
But besides that. If you want the best gaming!!! Experience you should always uncheck ycc 422 be it sdr or hdr.
There are only 2 reasons to check this options while gaming:
1. You want better color gradients in trade off sacrificing other parameters
2. The very very rase case when you get issues outputting a 4k60 444 signal on your device.
That’s basicly it. Keep in mind I talk about gaming only!
IMHO you should never check ycc 422 as Long as you don’t have issues with your rendering device
@@ganove84 I have the Sony XG9505 without 2.1 it's good to have it turned on, or off on my series x ?
@@blayedtheking5140 it depends on your tv and how it handels different incoming Signals.
For Example: best case is having colordepth 8 Bit and ycc 4:2:2 unticked for non hdr content.
I have a 2016 65“ Samsung ks 9500 ( high End Model)
But for various reasons i have to use 10bit with ycc 4:2:2 allowed.
My Model doesnt handel 8bit 4:4:4 very well. It Ends up in very high Input lag.. but thats Samsungs fault.
With 10 Bit ycc4:2:2 i have no Inputlag and very Minor Quality Loss.
Give it a Try. Go for Optimum ( 8 Bit with ycc 422 NOT allowed ). If you dont notice any Inputlag Stick with it.
If You notice lag and or artifacts on your Screen Go for 10 Bit and ycc 422 allowed.
Hope i could help you ✌🏻
I've been scratching my head over this for months now. I have the Xbox One X + LGC9. I want to know if I should check or uncheck 422 when I'm playing games. I want the less input lag possible. I've tried both and I can't see any difference
Thank you, best explanation yet. Subscrfibed!
Great video! I've toggled between the two and 422 displays less banding on my Panasonic GZ950.
Though my Pioneer AVR says it's 422 24 bit (the same as it says with Dolby Vision).
Need to find the Panasonic service menu to confirm as I feel it's actually in 422 36 bit!
I have the Dell S2721DGF. I play at 1440p/120hz with HDR off.
Should I keep YCC 422 On or Off?
There's alot of debate around this monitor on Reddit and I can't find a solid answer anywhere.
Also any suggestions? Like is it better with HDR on or with a different bit depth?
Thanks for covering this
I have a question...
I just bought a Philips TV, called The Xtra, and it has 2 4K 120hz HDMI ports (they must be 2.1 for sure) with VRR and Dolby Vision compatibility .
The thing is that, when pluging in the PS5 it displays all the abailable options (4K, 120hz, VRR, HDR10...) but when I plug my Series X or my friends' Series X, the image in games goes all pink and green. It doesn't matter what I play, it only goes back to normal when disabling 120Hz and setting it back to 60Hz. It doesn't matter the resolution, the VRR or HDR settings, it's only with the 120hz mode enabled.
Is this an XBOX problem or is it a Philips problem?
Xbox Series X: (HDMI 2.1) 3840x2160p@120Hz, All turn on settings (Only YCC 422 DISABLED), Colour Depth: 10-bit
Colour Space: RGB Limited
And your TV's dashboard change to PC MODE!!! (This is full YCC 444 Chroma)
And your TV's settings important: Blacklight and Contrast Maximum,
Sharpness Zero, Colour half (50 or 25)
Contrast Enhancer Low, Colour Tone Warm2, Gamma BT.1886, Colour Space Settings Allow Auto (DCI-P3 for games, BT.2020 for movies)
Understand?
@@rolandcarriage I'll try back home, but half of those adjustments are already that way on my TV, that's for sure
Hi, what about the video setting on the Apple TV4k, should we leave it to 4:2:0 or 4:4:4? i m using an LG b6 Oled which supports only Hdmi 2.0 Thanks.
Awesome video…in the morning when I go to play “Cyberpunk 2077” on my XBox Series X using a Sony X900f I will see if this is enabled or not…and I cannot remember if I have it set to 8 bit or 12…or maybe it is on 10.
The game looks absolutely stunning I am so happy with this 5 year old HDTV I cannot imagine it looking any better. :)>
Loving your vids and I have a Question, in regards to a Sony 900h. I have a series x and a ps5. I don’t plan on 120fps gaming on the ps5, just 4K 30-60 fps fidelity mode games. If I have the Xbox on the HDMI 2.1 (HDMI 4) port and the ps5 on a standard 4K dolby port (HDMI 2), will I lose graphical quality on the ps5 not having the HDMI 2.1, or just the 120fps options?
Just the 120fps
Thanks for the heads up Vincent! Gonna test this later today
Is their a clear significant difference in picture quality between the xbox and a dedicated 4k blu ray player? Say the xbox series x picture quality compair to the oppo 203 or is the or is the picture quality minimal?
Hi Vince, could you please talk about the screen tearing glitch in the x900h at 480p and 720p resolutions at game and graphics picture mode
Hi Vincent, I was wondering if you’re going to be reviewing the Hisense 100L5 and can we expect to see a video on it soon?
I'm running a Xbox series x and Sony 900e and it looks really good with no banding etc with it not on. Guess I could try it out and see if it looks even better.
@@oldb3139 thanks for that! So would you recommend leaving it off then?
@@oldb3139 I have an onkyo receiver+ Sony TV XH95. Both only HDMI 2.0
If i enable 422 option,the receiver shows 422 24bit. If unchecked become 420 30bit.
Hmmm,better off no??
@@marjanbatic2913 I have same receiver and unchecked looks better to me. More bits are better, right? LOL I really have no idea.
Vincent is wrong about one thing. HDMI 2.0b can handle YCC 444 with NO compression at 4k 50/60p! My 2015 4k TV is a Samsung JS8500 48" with HDMI 2.0b. On my Xbox One X, there is no reason to use YCC 422 when it can handle YCC 444. So no point in turning on YCC 422. Only useful for TVs older than HDMI 2.0b, like 1.4. Now you know the truth.
60fps movies look weird. I think hollywood should increase it though. But it just looked strange with gemini man. Some people still do not know most movies are 24fps.
Vincent, in lg A1 that has hdmi 2.0 , allow ycc 4:2:2? freesync information shows 8 bits instead of 12 bits, is that an error of information ?thanks
I have a Samsung KU6290 which is HDMI 2.0 60hz UHD. RTINGS says it supports only 10 bit color depth. Should I leave YCC 4:2:2 setting off on my Xbox Series X?
Great vid, but could you tell me which ethernet cable is best for xbox series x ? Cat 5 , cat 6, cat 7 ect
I got a cat 6, your limited by the port on the series x. I think it’s 1 gig, but gaming doesn’t use that much actually, according to that I’ve read. Anything past 5e is over kill, I just found a 6 at Best Buy and bought the shortest one I could.
What about if you use pc input on your tv for the Xbox? still check 422? I must say the colours looks much better 👍
has anyone tested this for the 2020 TCL 6-series TV? what's your preferred setting for this?
I have a 4-series but it’s 4K I’m about to check it out rn
Vizio M55Q8-H1 2020. Which color
Bit 8 or 10? And enable or disable YCC 4:2:2? I play 4K HDR 60hz and 1080 none HDR 60hz games.
"...see which one looks smoother to your eyes.." TY!
LG B6 here, so HDMI 2.0. When I check the 422, what colour depth should I pick? 8, 10 or 12? I alway thought 8 because it automaticly go up in hdr modus. Is this still the case? And what about auto HDR mode? Does that make any difference? Sometimes I think the colors are a bit off.. tnx for respons, keep it up 😏
Enable 422 seems to give me better colors indeed 😎
422 puts the O back in Orange.. red is more there. I see it in my GTA phone
Put it to 12 bit! Ycc422 is the only way to display 12 bit colour on a hdmi 2.0.
It’s works really well on older tv’s especially if you are using a hdmi 2.0 hdcp2.2 hdr scaller Edid recorder.
I have an onkyo reciever between the TV and Xbox.
With 422 ticked it shows ycbcr 24 4:2:2 for halo infinite, but when unticked ycbcr 30 4:2:0.
This can surely not be correct? The first one must be shown incorrect since it's hdr 60fps? Possible that my onkyo doesn't recognise the 36 4:2:2 and instead shoe 24 4.2.2?
That's great. So I guees on a Xbox one x and LG cx the setting should be also enabled since in this case the Xbox ist hdmi 2.0 limited?
No it shouldn’t.
Unless all you care about is color gradients.
If you watch only movies that might be a different story but when it comes to gaming there is NO reason to check this option.
Do NOT check this option when you play hdr or sdr.
In best case you get better colorgradients but also missmatch source content as it is intended and how it’s output on your Screen.
Worst case varies from tv to tv but once again. When it comes to gaming do NOT use this option.
@@ganove84 wow you seem very certain of this. I’m convinced.
@@ganove84 Does this optin missmatch source content?
If your TV/Monitor doesnt support 12-Bit it is not usefull. For HDMI 2.0 with YCC 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 + 8-Bit or 10-Bit I would go with this:
If you play a game with HDR (better native HDR and not the "Auto-HDR") I would choose 10-Bit with YCC 4:2:2 (14,85 Gbit/s), but if you play a game without HDR like Fortnite (on the Xbox Series X/S) I would choose 8-Bit with YCC 4:4:4 (17,82 Gbit/s).
Why? Because you cannot see much difference, except HDR is on and HDR benfits from 10-Bit much more.
Thank me later.
What if I have the Samsung Neo g8 4k uhd monitor?
A HDMI 2.0 valóban látja 8-biten YCC 444 (PC Módban), de ha HDR10-es játékkal játszik a YCC 420-ra le eseik automatikusan 8 vagy 10-biten is! Ezért használja a 12-bitet YCC 422 engedélyezését és tartja játékok közben is ezeket a beállításokat...
So heres the thing, i own a acer monitor with a native resolution of 1600x900p and my xbox one is set to 720p, pc rgb is on since the monitor supports it but i dont know if i should enable 4:2:2 or not. Youre saying not to enable if your monitor or tv doesnt support 12 bit whcih mine doesnt abviously, but does it have any negative effect if my hdmi port isnt hdmi 2.0? I dont know if its 2.0 or 1.4 since as much as ive looked online for my monitors specs, nothing shows up in terms of what hdmi version it is, so im not sure if it supports hdmi 2.0 yet with ycc 422 disabled blacks look like real blacks yet any other color doesnt seem to show much difference i would say. Only blacks look darker which i feel like that should be the case with it but um im not sure.
After my test on my setup Panasonic GZ 950 with Xbox series x best option is ycc 4:2:2 off and color depth 8bit.
On Lg c1 ps4 pro showing yuv422 HDR but bit depth as 8bit, if i set yuv 420 manually its signal info showing 12 bit hdr but colors are worse than yuv422 specially blues, if i turn off hdr ps4 pro in automatic shows 4k in 8bit rgb, how it's possible i thought yuv422 is a 10bit signal
Hey Vincent I have a question. I have a Samsung Q80T and a Series X. I was wondering how can I find out for sure what subsampling my TV is displaying. I don't know of any info the TV gives out or anything
My TV has hdmi 2.1 ports but they are only able to do auto lo latency mode, from what iv read in reviews.
I have had 4k blu rays playing through my blu ray player with certified high bandwidth hdmi, and I'm seeing data transfers from blu Ray player to TV of 40 + gigs.
Would this apply with the xbox also, so what exactly are my TV hdmi ports capable of with the xbox? Should I change the setting in this video or leave it? Please could you clear this up for me very confusing.
Hello do by chance know what I am doing wrong? I have a LG
CX 48 Oled. I am trying to play Forza Horizon 4 on the new Xbox. I'm
thinking I have done something wrong in setting options within the new
Xbox. The screen is full screen in the game but the left side of the
screen is one way and the right side of the screen is another way
leaving a line down the center showing how the screen is full screen but
split down the middle? Do you know a fix? Thank you
Couldn’t you just set your tv to the pc setting to force it to do 444 all the time? Would this work on TVs that support chroma 444 or are there potential drawbacks?
What about having a 2.1, HDMI TV but in the display settings in your console put 1080p 60hz instead of 4k 120hz while still having checked ✔️ the alow 4k box on seriesX?. What I see it's that nobody is talking in TH-cam how whatching 4k content trough a 1080p port (specially if it's a 2.1 HDMI port) everything looks 10 times better. How in the world a very good calibrator like you Vincent doesn't ever discuss this very important setting about Xbox and TV'S.? Only respect.✌️
when I enable 4:2:2 chroma, 4K HDR content plays in 8 bit 4:2:2 instead of 12 bit. SDR works great, playing in 4:4:4 and 12 bit, but that’s because I’ve set the Xbox to HD 1080p. Is this strange? When I disable 4:2:2, I’m able to get 4:2:0 at 10 bit HDR 4K
Edit: this is a series s by the way, but I figure that shouldn’t make a difference?
Interesting! I have question about PS5 hdmi bandwidth which is 32gbps! Do you think Hardware wise Sony can uncapped the signal to 48gbps for 12bit 4.4.4? Since many people dont know to go with cheaper C1 G1 (40gbps hdmi) or C2 G2 which support 48gbps hmid bandwidth!
HDMI 2.1 bandwidth isn't enough for 4K120, 12bit, 4-4-4. It's 0,11 Gbps over 48 Gbps limit. You will have to wait for next version.
Tha truth and nuthin but tha truth from Vincent...
‘The No1 Brand In Honesty’
Really? This guy keeps flip flopping and changing his mind between TV manufacturers and TV technologies..apparently every Oled up until this years models weren't bright enough to correctly output HDR 🤷♂️🤣
So I’m guessing if I’m using a 1080p 2.0 monitor I need to uncheck this?
I was having issues with my Series X resorting to 480p when I turn it on my CX. I had the 8k zeskit HDMI 2.1 cord and it fixed it. I think you do want to invest in a better HDMI cable to better help the handshake.
Experience this at random times as well with my CX and Series X; so you’re saying replacing the HDMI cable that comes with that console for a higher bandwidth one solves the issue?
@@coderkind yes exactly.
Did you turn on the instant game mode on your TV and ultra deep colors on your TV turn all of those on
I don't have an issue with the cable that came with my XSX & my LG CX. Works just fine. Maybe bad cable came with your XSX.
use hdmi not auto detect
Xbox One X (not series), LG C1 and HDMI 2.1 Cable
Should I enable or disabled that option?
Also, HDMI Input, Game or PC? I know PC Enable 4:4:4.,- but i dont know if the Xbox One can get any benefit with that enable using a 2.1 cable
Thank you very much for this very informative and helpfull video thanks
So this setting was fixed? I remember in a previous video you found that this setting dropped to 8-bit? Now it's 12-bit?
No, the LG was under-reporting the bit depth with 4:2:2 video signal.
@@hdtvtest oh, okay. Great for HDMI 2.0 then.
So xbsx and lg cx turn it on? Or leave it off ?
@@corygiroux972 off
then on lg cx are 12 bits with ycc4.2.2 enabled instead of 8 bits as it puts freesync information?thanks!
What XSX settings would you recommend for Sony 4K projector with 10.2 Gbps HDMI?
But isn’t it the case that even when connected to a hdmi 2.1 tv the Xbox series X will revert back to the hdmi 2.0 Tmds method when outputting anything other than 4K 120? For example when watching a blu ray on the series x it doesn’t matter if the tv supports 2.1 it won’t use the bandwidth available anyway as it only uses FRL for a 4K 120 output.
I have an HDMI 2.0 HDR 1080p 165hz monitor, should I turn ycc on?
Yes enabled YCC 422
I have Samsung ks8000 should I turn on the ycc 222 option? I have my series x running threw a Yamaha Av receiver to the tv via hdmi arc
Always good to know these things.
Thanks for everything. Turning off 4:2:2 made my monitor’s display so much better.
Can someone tell me why I have to keep enabling YCC 4.2.2 to display true 4k on my portable monitor? If I enable it the game is fine, but when i switch games I have to disable it and the games work again, then I switch games and enable it and the game works at 4k again, it seems to be a fickle thing for me, the hell is going on?
If your TV's HDMI 2.0 support Allow YCC 422 12-bit, 3840x2160@60Hz (If this is Monitor change colour space PC RGB, If this is TV RGB Limited then)
@@rolandcarriage k thanks
Hey I watched your video on setup with the ps5 but I feel that my blacks are still too dark on the Xbox series x. What would you suggest to change that?
Question: How much data does Dolby Atmos take up when transferring sound data?
Sorry still dont fully understand but if I have a hell old tv should I still turn on this setting for my xbox series S?
I have an xbox series x hooked up to an Acer Nitro XV272U (VBMIIPRZX version) monitor. Can you tell me which boxes I should have ticked on the xbox series x TV and display options please.
Is output with deep color on auto in the Sony ubpx-800 with 4:2:2, 12 bit? My TV is the Sony KD-X81j
I've known this for ages also if left unticked Dolby Atmos sound sometimes doesn't kick in due to no bandwidth. Gotta allow for sound as well
If I’m mainly using my Xbox for gaming with stereo headphones would you recommend leaving this feature on or off?
LG CX + Xbox One X= on or off, and 8,10 or 12 bits color?
I was having a strong delay in games tried enabling it made my game smooth and much responsive especially with vrr enabled , why did that happened ?
then on lg cx are 12 bits with ycc4.2.2 enabled instead of 8 bits as it puts freesync information?thanks!
@HDTVTest Why does the xbox not output
12 Bit at YCC 4:2:0 ?
What if you’re using 1440 @120hz on a 2.0 hdmi TV?
I was wondering the exact same! Neither of the 2 calculators he’s suggested in his videos, have 1440p as an option to select.
Do i leave this on or off on my lg c1? Color depth to 8 bit aswell right? Set it to PC mode too.
Is this used for monitors too or just tv's?