helios 300 had bad thermals from the beginning. that's why newer predator models come with side vents as well. used it on my hp omen 16 and during full fan it can easily maintain 80-85 C at 100+ watts of cpu power draw during stress test. previously it throttled after reaching 97 C when i ran the stress test everytime it drew that much power. it can utilize a good cooling system on a laptop. smaller laptops or the ones with only two outward fan vents will see less of a difference as they are bottleneckes by the inherent vapor chamber like in your case. i compared it with arctic mx 4 newly pasted btw. it easily reached those temperatures and got worse over time due to pump out. ptm 7950 not only works better but will be not prone to pump out in laptops like normal thermal paste so we won't need to replace it from time to time for a very long time
@@ArifFidaali K5 Pro has 5.3 W/mk. I have not met a worse thermal putty than it, plus it is hard to clean. There are tests of several thermal putty on the Snarks Domain channel.
@@ArifFidaali I've tried both, and the Upsiren thermal putty blows K5 out of the water; it's also easier to work with and less messy. Snarks Domain even shows K5 has issues with evaporation/separation at high temperatures. Also, I would suggest you try adding a 1mm flat heatpipe, to bond the two lower heatpipes that aren't connected together, with some thermal glue. It should help increase efficiency of the whole heatsink assembly.
Question, did you place the PTM7950 on only the gpu/cpu or elsewhere as well? Not sure whether you applied to heatsink since I see stuff there, but unsure if its a different pad.
Hi, yes I just placed the PTM7950 on the CPU & GPU dies nowhere else. On the heatsink I had some left over GElid extreme pads which I was just trying to experiment by placing on the heatsink, unfortunately it doesn't do anything.
@ArifFidaali thermal pads will not fill the microscopic gaps between the metal die and the heat sink like the thermal paste or ptm 7950 does. basically you put a worse conducting material than metal between your heatsink and your die with ptm 7950. so obviously it will perform way worse than without the pad, even if it has a higher heat transfer rate than the pad. the actual heat is transferred from metal to metal with gaps in between being filled with the thermal paste. higher number doesn't mean better cooling especially with solid pads.
MX4 is stable for 95% of applications but not the greatest, PTM7950 vs Noctua NTH2 yeah doubt that the difference is going to be noticeable... Gonna check this soon since i got both and will try to replace NTH2 with PTM later. On a Legion5 pro 12700h rtx3070...
The vendor provided is used by a lot of youtubers but if you're still unsure you can buy from the TH-camr Linus on his LTT store where his is straight from Honeywell. The green squares are to help you guide or place the PTM but I didn't find them useful.
Where to buy PTM7950: www.moddiy.com/products/Honeywell-PTM7950-SP-Super-Highly-Thermally-Conductive-PCM-Pad.html I don't know about Pakistan, but the above site is where I bought from. They deliver worldwide. They delivered to here in Nairobi, Kenya.
Please could you answer me a question, when PTM is below 45 degrees in solid state it will maintain a similar temperature to the thermal paste you were using before? One person told me on reddit that below 45 degrees the temperatures increased rapidly but other people said the opposite that they remained almost the same as the thermal paste and it caused me confusion, if you could share your experience I would be very grateful. Excuse me if I express myself incorrectly, English is not my main language and I use Google translator.
Yes at below 45 degrees the PTM will have similar temps as thermal paste in my experience with my Predator Helios laptop I get similar temps like when I apply Arctic MX 4. I also play around with clock speeds using Throttlestop to further reduce temps. Check out my video on Throttlestop in the description.
Same with me, but my application to my laptop takes a very long time and so hard because is so thin. I also applied it to the GPU and there was a slight tear (will it affect the GPU which is not exposed to my laptop's thermal or not) which caused it to not be completely flat. But overall, I use it for low daily gaming with mid end gaming being good too. No doubt and no problem with it, my GPU temp reaches a stable 68-80 when gaming and when idle it reaches the 41-46 range and for the CPU 64 when playing and 46 when idle. I applied it 1 week ago, maybe if there are significant results (really lowering the temperature) I will let you know here later
Any thermal paste like Kingpin, Artic MX etc needs to be replaced after a while. PTM does not need replacement which is it's greatest strength so I would go with PTM
Considering the efforts and price it costs i would say just get Gelid GC4 its new, thicker with a viscosity of 1000 poise which is equal to 1,00,000 centipoise. For a laptop as i can see using good quality thermal paste is still better like repasting every year and keeping ur system clean. Because judging from your video and seeing other laptop users using PTM7950 phase change the results aint that impressive on laptops. Also the melting point here is 45°c not 40°c
People on youtube generally start posting result on its first boot, while performance of PTM7950 improves and settles down after few sessions. It's better than any thermal paste out there and just below liquid metals.
YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE NOT FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU NEED TO TEST AND BENCHMARK SEVERAL TIMES IN ORDER TO COCK IT AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THE TRUE DIFFERENCE
Check out my new video on PTM 7950 & Upsiren U6 pro
th-cam.com/video/5XzFeA81kZ4/w-d-xo.html
The state of PTM after over 1 year is surprising 😮
Cpu clocks are higher too
helios 300 had bad thermals from the beginning. that's why newer predator models come with side vents as well. used it on my hp omen 16 and during full fan it can easily maintain 80-85 C at 100+ watts of cpu power draw during stress test. previously it throttled after reaching 97 C when i ran the stress test everytime it drew that much power. it can utilize a good cooling system on a laptop. smaller laptops or the ones with only two outward fan vents will see less of a difference as they are bottleneckes by the inherent vapor chamber like in your case. i compared it with arctic mx 4 newly pasted btw. it easily reached those temperatures and got worse over time due to pump out. ptm 7950 not only works better but will be not prone to pump out in laptops like normal thermal paste so we won't need to replace it from time to time for a very long time
Yes good thing about PTM9750 replacement won't be necessary unlike thermal pastes.
On vrams and power sections apply thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.
I tried the K5 pro but not much change, maybe i will try Upsiren pro
@@ArifFidaali K5 Pro has 5.3 W/mk. I have not met a worse thermal putty than it, plus it is hard to clean. There are tests of several thermal putty on the Snarks Domain channel.
@@ArifFidaali I've tried both, and the Upsiren thermal putty blows K5 out of the water; it's also easier to work with and less messy. Snarks Domain even shows K5 has issues with evaporation/separation at high temperatures. Also, I would suggest you try adding a 1mm flat heatpipe, to bond the two lower heatpipes that aren't connected together, with some thermal glue. It should help increase efficiency of the whole heatsink assembly.
@@DrivingVertigo Thanks for the advice. I will try out upsiren pro and as for the heatpipe maybe I will consider
I'm using Upsiren U6 Pro on Vrams and Memory Chips and its work fine on my i7 11gen + RTX3070 laptop
It lowered temps a little, and made cpu and gpu run at a higher frequency, so win/win, more fps and less temperature/thermal throttle
That's great I'm glad
Question, did you place the PTM7950 on only the gpu/cpu or elsewhere as well? Not sure whether you applied to heatsink since I see stuff there, but unsure if its a different pad.
Hi, yes I just placed the PTM7950 on the CPU & GPU dies nowhere else. On the heatsink I had some left over GElid extreme pads which I was just trying to experiment by placing on the heatsink, unfortunately it doesn't do anything.
@@ArifFidaaliTerrible idea my friend, you're just handicaping the PTM
@@prysma2057 How so? What am I doing wrong?
@ArifFidaali thermal pads will not fill the microscopic gaps between the metal die and the heat sink like the thermal paste or ptm 7950 does. basically you put a worse conducting material than metal between your heatsink and your die with ptm 7950. so obviously it will perform way worse than without the pad, even if it has a higher heat transfer rate than the pad. the actual heat is transferred from metal to metal with gaps in between being filled with the thermal paste. higher number doesn't mean better cooling especially with solid pads.
MX4 is stable for 95% of applications but not the greatest, PTM7950 vs Noctua NTH2 yeah doubt that the difference is going to be noticeable...
Gonna check this soon since i got both and will try to replace NTH2 with PTM later.
On a Legion5 pro 12700h rtx3070...
Great let us know your findings.
so what did u found
my laptop cpu temps never go above 80 C after applying this. i have an omen 16 2024
Great
from where did you buy?
@@Sunny-Gupta1 Link for where to buy is in the description
What was the thickness of pads used on vram?
I used 0.5mm on VRAM
@@ArifFidaali oh thanks
I heard it improves more with more cycles is it true
And any improvements u noticed
Honestly, not by much as compared to the thermal paste I had, Arctic MX 4. The advantage here is it will not dry up and need replacement.
@@ArifFidaali what about now after 4 weeks, did u get better temperatures ?
It's improved only by 2 degrees Celsius
@@ArifFidaali i applied it 2 weeks back and now max cpu temps reach 85°© at 53watts constant
Are these good temps
@@saisandeep2289 Those are good temps, at least not reaching 90C
any experience with the Upsiren PCM-1 changing material?
Not yet but I will try it out and do a video on that soon.
@@ArifFidaali I'm going to put in on the core chip of my Auros rtx 2080 super, I ordered it yesterday, wish me luck
@@esataaa Good luck
How do i know if its original? And whats the use of smaller green square?
The vendor provided is used by a lot of youtubers but if you're still unsure you can buy from the TH-camr Linus on his LTT store where his is straight from Honeywell. The green squares are to help you guide or place the PTM but I didn't find them useful.
@@ArifFidaali thanks so much im tired of changing paste every 6months.
From where i can order? Is it availability in Pakistan?
Where to buy PTM7950:
www.moddiy.com/products/Honeywell-PTM7950-SP-Super-Highly-Thermally-Conductive-PCM-Pad.html
I don't know about Pakistan, but the above site is where I bought from. They deliver worldwide. They delivered to here in Nairobi, Kenya.
Can i apply Honeywell on the vram chips as well?
@@shadow_musix Yes you can. It's just that people put thermal putty instead
I see. I was thinking of putting thermal grizzly kryonaut on these vram chips if i happen to run out of pads. Will that be okay too?
@@shadow_musix Yes it will be fine
@@ArifFidaali Thank you!
Whats a vram chips? Cuz i only replace thermal paste on cpu and gpu for 3years in my laptop.
What do you use to measure the temperatures?
MSI afterburner
But what was the temp spread over the CPU
Temp spread?
@@ArifFidaali Difference between the hottest and coldest core.
@@BlackThunderRC 87C hottest core and coldest core at about 83C when gaming
what sheet size did you buy?
50mm x 31mm x 0,25mm
@@ArifFidaali will a 25mmx35mm be enough for Helios 300?
@@Nuxsiminati I think 30mm x 30mm as per the website link in the description is enough
What game is that you're playing?
Assasins Creed Origins
thanks @@ArifFidaali
Please could you answer me a question, when PTM is below 45 degrees in solid state it will maintain a similar temperature to the thermal paste you were using before?
One person told me on reddit that below 45 degrees the temperatures increased rapidly but other people said the opposite that they remained almost the same as the thermal paste and it caused me confusion, if you could share your experience I would be very grateful.
Excuse me if I express myself incorrectly, English is not my main language and I use Google translator.
Yes at below 45 degrees the PTM will have similar temps as thermal paste in my experience with my Predator Helios laptop I get similar temps like when I apply Arctic MX 4. I also play around with clock speeds using Throttlestop to further reduce temps. Check out my video on Throttlestop in the description.
Same with me, but my application to my laptop takes a very long time and so hard because is so thin. I also applied it to the GPU and there was a slight tear (will it affect the GPU which is not exposed to my laptop's thermal or not) which caused it to not be completely flat. But overall, I use it for low daily gaming with mid end gaming being good too. No doubt and no problem with it, my GPU temp reaches a stable 68-80 when gaming and when idle it reaches the 41-46 range and for the CPU 64 when playing and 46 when idle. I applied it 1 week ago, maybe if there are significant results (really lowering the temperature) I will let you know here later
And yeah, I also undervolt my cpu and overclock gpu to reaching excellent gaming. My spec laptop is Intel Core I3-5005U with AMD R5 M430 GPU
@@Devarahmanexcellent gaming on that thing? 😅
@@GoBeavs109 I mean to achieve sufficient performance for this device, nothing more
this or kingpin kpx?
Any thermal paste like Kingpin, Artic MX etc needs to be replaced after a while. PTM does not need replacement which is it's greatest strength so I would go with PTM
th-cam.com/video/32_t8XEOI0Y/w-d-xo.html
Check out my Gelid and Kingpin video
Considering the efforts and price it costs i would say just get Gelid GC4 its new, thicker with a viscosity of 1000 poise which is equal to 1,00,000 centipoise. For a laptop as i can see using good quality thermal paste is still better like repasting every year and keeping ur system clean. Because judging from your video and seeing other laptop users using PTM7950 phase change the results aint that impressive on laptops. Also the melting point here is 45°c not 40°c
Thanks for the suggestion for gelid gc4 will consider it. Clarification noted.
People on youtube generally start posting result on its first boot, while performance of PTM7950 improves and settles down after few sessions. It's better than any thermal paste out there and just below liquid metals.
Bro beli saiz apa?
Size: 50mm x 31mm
YOU WILL NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE NOT FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU NEED TO TEST AND BENCHMARK SEVERAL TIMES IN ORDER TO COCK IT AND THEN YOU WILL SEE THE TRUE DIFFERENCE