New Tool From REED Planes Embossing Die
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New REED Planes Embossing Die is used to make graduated marks on rulers and other marking tools. This is how you can make rulers yourself.
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Thank you for the kind words James! This was a fun project to work on!
Thanks for all your work on this. it is a seriously fun tool!
Thanks for all your help!
Is the hardness of such that you can make aluminum or brass rules? @@reedplanes728
@@WoodByWrightHowTo would also be great for a centering rule.
Start your "zero" mid stick, and number it out both directions from center. When both end's measurement is equal, the zero is the center of your piece/side/edge.🤔
Also a helpful tool is the marking tics are hard enough to mark aluminum, brass, etc. to make "metal" rules that will stand the test of time.
Would love to see samples done in "exotic" woods like 💜 or yellow heart 💛, sapele, redwood, etc, and there are fine tip markers with light colored inks😀. How about a rainbow rule where sixteenths, eighths, quarters, half, and inch markings all get their own color? (Separate color at each foot?)
Create a combo rule where you do tenths of a foot with ten marks per segment. Maybe our decimal friends will totally flip out. 😂❤
Oooo😮, creat a double centering stick that pivots/crosses at zero for finding the center the section of slabs you'd want to use for furniture (or other objects). Could be two sticks with half-lap joinery and a magnet to hold them together if you don't want the pivot option.) (+)
The pivot would allow for Beetlegeuise angled/twisted panels and boards, or centering on multiple angles or axis.
As an engineer, I can totally appreciate that and yeah, that's not going to be an inexpensive item. But for my woodworking, I've been getting away from measuring anything: story sticks and marking from reality now "rule" my woodworking world.
And as a fan of your channel? Well anything that gets you that excited is just fun to watch. Well done.
This is really cool. If I had one I would mark all of the edges of my workbenches. That way you’d never have to search for that outlaw ruler, well at least when you’re working at the bench. That gave me the giggles.
I am thinking about that for my new one.
Your statement ‘going down to the shed to have fun‘ is what hit it on the head for me. That’s what woodwork is for me.
This tool is what is known to every person who has ever worked in a screw machine shop as a roll stamp. $500 for this tool is a surprisingly cheap price.
That's so crazy to me. I don't see the reason for the price. It seems like the kind of thing that should be easy to make
@@thedudeamongmengs2051metal probably
@@wierdalien1 I'm not sure what you mean. That thing doesn't use a lot of metal. Maybe it's super precisely machined but even that shouldn't cost that much
@thedudeamongmengs2051 I was thinking the specific alloys. But also, seems easy, and is easy, are two wildly different things
@@wierdalien1 well to be clear I have a background in machining and metal work. Even a quality tool steel and heat treatment isn't that difficult or expensive. Maybe I'll make one just to see
I have been making my own wooden rules already. I have a 24" 30" 36" 48" because I find it convenient. I like them thin (less than 1/8"), about 1.5" wide and made of maple. I stick an old aluminum rule to the blank with double stick tape and transfer the marks with a square and marking knife.
I’m glad I’m not losing my mind*: I just placed an order on the store last night and saw this and its message to watch the video, and was sure I would have remembered seeing a video on this.
I still wouldn’t have been interested though. Years ago when I moved to the US for work, I made a special trip to Bunnings before I left to buy a tape measure marked only in mm, because I’d recently realised how useful it was to be able to use both sides of the tape. (Tapes and even rulers marked in both metric and imperial having been far and away the majority in Australia in the 90s. Now it’s pretty uncommon.)
* at least, I /may/ not be losing my mind
Honestly I don’t ever see myself using this, but I hope everyone that does has a blast!
This is a tool that most have never thought about, thanks for the fun video!
James thanks so much for the video and all your help. To explore ideas and have some even make it to market is a lot of fun for me. I know they may not be for everyone but that is not my goal. There is a long history of ruler making with some pretty amazing rulers out there. Lets see what this embossing die can do to reveal a whole new era of creativity. If I can recoup some of the development costs for this version and there is demand for a metric version I will make it. Lets have fun in the shop, thanks Jeff
Wow, time to reintroduce the SECTOR and get rid of rulers for ever. Is that an infinity loop? Lol. That though made me smile!
Now we need a doyle scale, a metric scale and a slide rule version
I was actually going to say, if the wheel was interchangeable, and had not just various measurements, but border patterns, I'd find such a high price point more bearable.
Ehhhh that price is OK
You perfectly explained the channel and why I love it (and handtool woodworking).
Very cool gadget, next you can try putting some gold leaf beteween the wood and the roller
My wife looked for 'product' coming out of my shop, while I sought the zen of process. 😊
I like this idea a lot. I’m a machinist and really have my wheels turning now. What would be interesting if it could be adapted to make different shrink rules
I like my thick aluminum HF 3 foot rule. I do have a bunch of old advertising yardsticks with the old 3-6 letter/number phone numbers.
This is absolutely crazy (in a good way) - never seen such a cool tool, which probably no one needs, but’s fun to have it and make your own ruler, but unfortunately I live in a metric world 😀
Cool tool . I could see how much fun you had playing around with this tool .
I feel like this would be dope on a few projects done over the years. When i remodel rooms at peoples homes, some of them have new borns and young kids. So i could imagine a few would pay to send a door trim, though rather than a goofy measuring stick on the wall kinda deal. Odds are i would just use it on jigs in the shop, which would be nice.
Oh that is a fantastic idea! I bet those would sell well!
It is about the fun, challenge and satisfaction. We can justify our tool storage and jigs to others as "efficiency". Reality to the woodworker may be pleasure.
You nailed it!
That is cool, I am a mixed hand tool/power tool woodworker. My miter saw station has the stick on tape measure that Lee Valley sells. I think it would be really cool to make custom wood rulers for it.
I was thinking you could put the marks on one edge or all 4 edges of a table for decoration or on door molding for measuring your kids as they grow up. I know they aren't the best ideas but it's something. Anyway, have fun, stay safe and Happy Building 💯😁
Oh, An age board. that is a great idea!
Instead of a pen or pencil, paint the embossed surface, wait for it to dry and either sand or plane a little of the top layer off.
that works on some woods, but most will seep in to the depth of the grain and you see the other colors bleeding in. I had thought of clear coating it and then putting in color that way the clear coat would lessen the bleed into the grain, but I did not try it.
Some of the competition will be CNC. I currently use my Shaper Origin to put rulers on things. I love putting rulers on acrylic and using contrasting enamel paint as infill. However, I consider myself to be a galoot that loves purpose built tools that do not require electricity, and as such would consider renting one occasionally (and if I had to rent it more than once would probably just buy one even at $550, because I don’t like going to the post office)
I was using the Glowforge to laser rules but swapped to the Shaper Origin because I didn’t like the burnt look against lighter woods. I like how clean it is but do miss the legibility and didn’t want to mark it with a pencil. Been thinking about using the Shaper to do a veneer inlay next time to get the contrast and a completely flat surface…🤔
Is a homeshop CNC machine easy enough to operate? I have a lot of experience with 3d printers, from scratch basically, but I feel it's not the same to design and use additive manufacturing and designing for material removing
@@gosonegr it depends on how complex you want to get. If you’re just doing mostly 2d cuts then it’s no harder than using a laser cutter. Same could be said about a cnc plasma cutter for metal. Just draw some vectors, make a bunch of test cuts to dial in your material settings and you’re good to go.
The Shaper is even easier and more akin to hand tool woodworking because you take the tool to the material rather than the material to the tool. So more like a hand plane vs a table saw philosophically. You still mostly draw the vectors on a computer but there is more and more functionality that you can do directly on the tool.
It gets complicated/expensive when you want to work in multiple axis but for 99% of what most people need it’s totally doable in a home shop.
@@donbert to make rules in wood, first spray Rustoleum clear enamel over the engraving to prevent the infill from bleeding into the wood. Then, if using something other than enamel paint as infill, I will often put more clear enamel over the contrasting infill (once dry). Hard maple with black enamel paint infill looks wonderful
@@gosonegr subtractive manufacturing is highly addictive. Once you start, you may not be able to stop. In the design phase there are different considerations but fewer of them, which often translates into a more enjoyable experience. That is not to say subtractive manufacturing is easier, just that you can achieve such amazing results with little education that it hooks you. Additive manufacturing is fun, and solves a lot of impossible challenges, but often times what we need in our lives is not complicated enough to warrant printing a Klein bottle solution.
Ooo you could also use atomized metals and super thin ca to infill the markings! ❤
Or mica powder if you want a more solid color
Channeling the spirit of Alton Brown, that is definitely a unitasker. I can also envision much more accessible ways to do the same job, like a jig you could hold a v-groove chisel with, with a mechanism to advance the stick by an accurate amount for each marking. Or even just gluing a ruler to the jig so you could align it by eye each time you advance the stick.
It is neat though.
Highly interested in the idea of tool making and measurement is the place where my ability is weakest. Glad this exists.
I don't doubt there's a bunch of cool uses for this tool and I'd love to see some of them. A follow up video sharing projects made by people who rent/buy one of these would really be a fun watch IMO.
What did the sarcastic dog say?
“SNARK! SNARK! SNARK’”
I might honestly rent one at some point! I could genuinely use an 8'+ straight edge with makings for rough stock trimming!! 😮 plus something I can quick clamp and not hassle with tape!?!?
oh I like that idea!
Very cool and maybe I would rent. I just can't afford to buy it (or justify ;) ). Keep up the work, Jeff and Tony!
That one measures up
Weird fun! More!
A wood burner could work well to highlight the graduations.
It’s definitely a marking tool!
Thanks for sharing that!
I would love to do a folding ruler.
Perhaps a thin dyed wash, and then gently sand to return the surface of the rule to wood tone, with the lines dyed dark?
I've tried that but anything that soaks under the grain will give you a blurry mark
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Perhaps seal the stick with a thin coat and then wipe something dark across? Hmm. I suppose somewhere in here it’s just as quick to use the pencil or pen, haha. Love your vids, sir, you always get me thinking!
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The dumb thing? O you mean the haters or whatever. You seem like you are the master of understanding what these “haters” are really saying when they hate. It’s a cry for help they don’t want you to put them in their place they want you to show them why that dumb thing you do is fun, That’s what you said and that’s what you do dude, thank you so much for real. O yeah I’d like to build a simple square with that die.
Thanks James.
The coincidence is not lost on me that Rouleau (Tony Rouleau) is french for Roller
Fun tool.
Thanks James
Cut strips of colored carbon transfer paper, fix to workpiece, and emboss the rule AND color them at the same time!
that would be worth the try.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Might have to play around with embossing the color on first pass, last pass, pressure, etc.
Impressive.
That’s a crazy, yet justifiable price. But you know what would be affordable? Why not just make a punch/stamp you whack with a hammer? It only needs to be one inch long. You could either include the inch markings at both ends so you line up the next inch by setting the first mark in the groove left by the last one. Or if that isn’t accurate enough, let’s say the punch goes to 1/16ths, just leave off that final mark so you have a punch that has 15/16ths. You’d use a known rule to mark each inch of your board and just line it up each time. The really only complicated part is the stamp would need a lip to register against the edge of the board, but that should be simple enough. You should be able to get the price point down to the price of a plane iron. The best part is that it would be dead simple to use rather than having to set up a drill press with a complicated jig. Anyone who's every punch a number or letter (pretty much ALL of us????) would already have all the experience they'd need.
Good approach and I considered it. What stopped me was the need for the same depth of the markings every time you hit it with a hammer. I do not see this as practical. There are many companies that make custom stamps and I encourage you to have one made and let us know how it works.
That is one of those tools I never knew I have to have..... but you said you can adjust accuracy with pressure and up to an 1/8" over 48"....that seems tricky to dial if I want to do longer lengths....
What did the rule say about the roller which had just made it? I'm impressed!
Low-key flexing the Pixel 9
LOL I am glad someone saw it!
Ummm … it’s a caster. They make steel casters. One could get the diameter exactly right by mounting the wheel of the caster on a drill press, and then then sanding.
How about heating up the wheel and then branding the marks onto the wood?
One might also make one of these out of wood, carving the lines, and then using ink to print the lines.
I knew what this was before I even watched this. And thought to myself, "I wonder if James would be interested in renting that to me. I have a bunch of boxwood I got from China and want to make a ruler similar to the old Stanley folding rule: and if it turns out well, one out of imitation ivory and German silver. Do you know if they plan on making any in 16th's? BTW, an easy way to color the markings is with paint. Spread it over the marking and let it dry. Then take the surface paint with a cabinet scraper.
I had not considered 1/16" graduations but if there is demand I will explore them. For a one off I would suggest the 16" graduations be put in manually with a square and knife. Great project please let us know how it turns out!
Cool video
Remember the golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules!
I want it for no other reason than to play with it.
But I think it should be a hot press rather than just embossed.
Love it
Hey james hows the family
mad cool wheel down bellow
Oh my .
Still cheaper than getting a set of gauge blocks and a few extra four inch blocks to get really accurate stops for scribing.
It occurs to me that this is fundamentally highly specific knurling. Could one make a graduated wheel for a knurling jig? If so that could make it more accessible.
like a BOSS
This is so darn cool!
Frankly I like the tape idea. A strip of decent quality tape and I can label it anyway I want
Loads of - imperial - fun ! 🤣
Id be curious if it would imprint brass or aluminum flat stock.
Unfortunately the steel is not hardened and it would probably deform. Plus the measurement would be off as it's intended to press deeper into the wood than it can go into the brass or the aluminum.
A leather belt, suspenders or strap.
comment down be… is there going to be a metric version? it's next to impossible, that I would order it over the pond, but if on your side metric rulers aren't laying around in every big box store, then for a tool to make those for people who make things seems (at least to me) like an interesting idea. (I guess 5 mm graduations is what's possible to make)
If Jeff gets his money back he may do a run of metric.
It's a tool makers tool...so they are a tool makers tool maker. Or a tool maker who is a tool maker for the tool makers.
Now my head hurts!
How do you think that would work on super hard wood like ironwood from the Philippines?
It would work fine. Just needs a little more pressure.
Whatever could I use that for? How about a perfectly scaled rule directly on the side of my workbench? NO! A perfectly scaled rule on every accessible side of my workbench! Actually, I have several benches now, so I could put a perfect scale on everything!
This is why I have more money than brains, James. And I'm flat broke!
LOL I like the way you think!
How about a wheel with "Made by ..."
Wait, what? You were in our Athol plant and I didn't see you? Nooooooo!
Came through for the MWTCA meet there back in May.
Lots to see there. I work in department 4 which does most of the first machining operations. Amidst newer CNC machines I bang my head, I mean I RUN older Brown and Sharpe screw machines and English Wickman multispindle machines.
Somebody has too much time on their hands.
Hey, James... You should use a stamp pad with it... Specially a black one. Actually, it would be great if there's a way to fix a stamp pad to it... 🤔
Anyway, I couldn't try it. I'm from Brazil and it would take a long time for it to arrive here... 😕
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
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Oh please, you’re not the dumb channel. You’re silly, not dumb. Now my channel … I do the dumb things. I throw ungodly amounts of money to make tools that are completely unnecessary (according to many)
Does it come in metric?
not yet, but if there is enough interest... who knows what Jeff Will do.
Coooooool
Is this hard enough to use on brass?
unfortunately no. and the geometry would be wrong as it presses down to a different depth.
Why not just ink the wheel to start? Use it like a printing wheel. ...?
good idea but really hard to implement.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo that sounds like a challenge to me.
Inches and metric or just inches
Just inches right now. If there's enough interest, maybe in the future.
I think using that would make me insane... variability in distance based on pressure? I just don't think I could do it! :D
I am not sure about your sanity but as you set up to run this and test a few test pieces you will know very quickly what depth is need. Also we are not making a precision scale but an 1/8" divided ruler.
@@reedplanes728 Ah, 1/8", that makes more sense. Thanks!
Rouller?
A metal worker. That makes metal tools to work with wood??
Does it come in Metric as well?
If enough people rent them, he might make a metric set.
But I have neither a drill press nor post drill. Can’t it work in a vise with some trickery?
sure. it just needs a 1/2" hole and pressure.
Wrong, wrong, wrong! It IS a MARKING GAUGE. It marks out a ‘gauged’ ruler. If it were to be configured for border patterns etc with interchangeable ‘print heads’ that talented Geoff could keep costs below a minimum of $1,000? He would never recoup design costs. No reply required but I did enjoy this posting. Aussie me again.
Keep them coming as I enjoyed it as well.
will it do brass
that would be a question for Jeff. I am sure he will be on soon. my guess would be yes but I do not know.
The die is not hardened so I would not recommend it on brass. An other issue is that as you transition from wood to brass the depth of the embossing needs to change. Also jigging up with the the bronze ends attached and getting the die to start in the correct spot will be difficult.
If you don’t hear from me, it’s because I was robbing a bank to buy one, and I was caught.
This is a bit like a knurling tool.
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I could see a lot of use for this tbh. I lose tape measures constantly, the best way to overcome that and improve consistancy is to just build tape measures into your bench/saws, and this method would be a hell of a lor more durable than the adhesive options. If only i could justify the cost lmao
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Just for fun, put ink on it and mark your head.😅 No don't do that because then we would know your not a big head. LOL
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