Why you won’t get a UX/UI job
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2024
- In this video, Ran Segall gives his opinion on the current job market for designers and shares experience from his own journey.
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It's important to educate people on current jobs market, there is too much false marketing failing peoples expectations.
Exactly. A friend of mine is a recruiter for a medium sized tech company, and they've posted job listings for entry level and junior UX Designers. They get 1500-2000+ applicants per listing. Yes, a large amount of them likely aren't qualified. But at the same time, a large amount of them are overqualified - as in mid-level to even senior designers who were laid off from their previous job willing to work for a junior/entry level salary. So these are the guys who get hired. Juniors essentially have very, very little chance right now.
So it is all fucked up, what a hopeless place @@marzoval9551
@@marzoval9551Hey, can I get your friends LinkedIn profile or any way to contact him/her?
Why do they post ENTRY level jobs and not actually hire someone that’s entry level?? That’s so frustrating!
I Spent over 6 months looking for a Jr UI UX position and applied to at least 400+ openings and heard nothing or was rejected. I have a Google UI UX certificate, an extremely strong graphic design background, I have a degree in CS, and proficient skills in HTML, CSS, Javascript, and React. 1000% agree! this is definitely the move. Don't waste your time and energy looking for a Jr UI UX role
There are a lot of things that juniors do that will not take them over the line and get hired. Everything from the CV, portfolio to the way you present your designs and communicate is being measured against more experienced designers in the field. It's harder yes but not impossible to get into the field.
it's only applies to ui ux design or other fields too like in development? if not then what should we do we are wasting our time to learn UI ux design?
so is there any alternative? if not UX/UI then where should we be heading?
As a product designer with 10+ years of experience I would say the situation is almost the same. The market is insane right now so if you can't land a job don't worry it's not because of your skills, it's because there is a lot of professionals out there.
@@kikuru309 it's only applies to ui ux design or other fields too like in development? if not then what should we do we are wasting our time to learn Ul ux design?
Nothing wrong with being a UX/UI designer but if you can learn Web Design/Development or Digital Marketing on top of that, it can make you a great contender amongst other applicants. There are so many free learning resources that staying within just one field now could potentially limit your opportunities.
depends on where you are applying and where you want to go actually
Hey how are you actully i am palnning to enrolled in ux/ui designer so i have question its good or not i have 2 year experince in web designer so please help me.which course i should have to enroll
Thanks for your take on this Ran. I think its good to be honest with these designers about the reality of the industry. Like anything else, it's not going to be easy but it IS possible! I think the sky is still the limit for UX/UI designers but only those that put in the time, work to build an impressive portfolio, and learn other useful skills to make them an asset to their clients and employers! 💪
I think the biggest thing in UI/UX is almost every aspect of the site are going to developed . so company don't need any big team to make new thing , they just drag and drop from other's work inspiration with one designer.
Thank you so much for this video. Super helpful and well-presented. Your time and effort is most appreciated!
it's not just the bootcamp people. Junior, mid level, associates are struggling to land a job
I just completed a bootcamps by a company called, Career Foundry. I spent 7000 dollars on it and about 90% of what they taught was also easily searchable on TH-cam and just shredded my expectations so much. They also had a "1 on 1" mentor who would coach you. They were awful, I had 3 in total because 2 of them just quit responding while the last was very helpful but also went radio silent. I have 3 projects of high quality on behance and I haven't even applied to jobs yet because I just have a feeling I will have wasted my time. If you guys have had any similar experiences please let me know I'm curious if anyone has also faced this.
I was considering career foundry. Was it truthfully a giant waste of money or was there something positive that you got from the course that you wouldn’t have got by watching TH-cam videos? I’m very curious.
@@DanGarcia_UX oh man where do I even begin. Unless you already have prior professional experience in the tech space than it makes no sense. I am 19 and have a whole portfolio and the cert itself and it's almost impossible to even get noticed when applying because the certification itself holds no weight and it is meaningless. Not to mention right now UX itself is dying as a profession with AI and website builders steamrolling all of it. As for the content itself I could've 1000% found every single thing on TH-cam, they even linked TH-cam videos in the docs themselves. It's a complete waste of money in my opinion and you'd be better served doing a Google certification and getting a portfolio together that being if you're already in tech. Tech is just one massive shit show and I'm going a different direction
@@AlarmingPlayzit will take a long time before AI can replace UX/UI designers
not nearly as long as you think@@sshrekster
@@haarew8336 law enforcement, or something similar where I can have an impact and help other around me
Yes! I SO appreciate the honesty. Between my bootcamp that nearly promised me a quick job in the industry to various coaches boasting about how their paid programs will get you a job in the industry - it can feel like an endless and fruitless journey without this very real context.
I'm about to join one. I don't buy the idea myself but my dad does.
The cash could get me a new laptop
This topic is quite depressing. I honestly have given up on tech after years of no opportunities. I have a Bachelor's degree with a focus in design.. That got me a customer service job. Finished a UX design certification and even landed a UX internship... After the internship... still no design job. It's been frustrating and all of this work feels useless.
Just go with freelancing. That's the way to go. Don't wait for a full time job.
I don’t think it is impossible to get a job in tech. But i do think many people have a false impression of how much effort they have to put into their self managed education. Its not enough to do a bootcamp a few hours a week. I have done a 1 year bootcamp in a physical office. I didnt treat this year as a slow bootcamp where i only worked like 4-5 hrs a dayand only during week days..no..i did it about 12hrs every dy including most weekends. Had basically no vacation. Just kept my head down and worked and strived to make it as much fun as possible. Eventually it became fun and i didnt thin of it just as hard work I am now at the end of that year and i have had multiple offers as a frontend dev and ux designer, currently in an internship now and next week i am starting at a new job. So are therenojobs? No, there are plenty, but i think many people might not be up for putting in the hours it takes. So whoever reads this and you feel a bit defeated or lacking motivation. You can do this..if i can do it, you sure as hell can..trust me!
Thinking of starting to learn UI/UX myself. I just started figma basics and I am a long way behind. I am a college student your story although dauting does give a lot of hope. I hoped there was a way I could connect to hard working ideals like you.
What city and country ?
but what about if you have to work a full time job how are you supposed to manage the hours
@@elfactos India
@@rajtiwari6724Hi
I got my web design degree in 2016 and could not find a job, then I got a job as a graphic designer, then web admin, Adobe tutor, I got UX cert from CUNY tech works and no job in UX or web. I work in a marketing agency now but the pay is terrible. I need to make at least 80 k to survive in NY and I am not close to that at all
This is utterly discouraging and I don’t know what to do with my current situation. I’ve been dedicating all my free time to learning UX/UI (I work full time in project management). I’m still very early on but I’m liking UX and considering a potential career change. When I hear things like this I’d be a fool not to believe it but I’m stuck somewhere between “it’s impossible? I’ll show them!” and at the other end of the spectrum, maybe I should just stop before sunk cost fallacy creeps in. Do I continue and let it play out hoping the landscape for hiring gets better in a year or so or just find a new skill to learn? Has ANYONE heard of people successfully career switching into UX recently? Does my professional working experience give me any advantage?
This is where I’m at now, hearing a lot of people agree with the creator of this vid and some people saying there’s still hope. Currently switching careers and wondering if I’d be better off doing cybersecurity
Hey Dan! Understandable that you find this discouraging. I actually pivoted from project management into UX/UI (it was back in 2020, so a slightly different market then). I think what people often miss about this is that the TYPE of role you're going after (company, team size, industry) makes a HUGE difference regarding your chances. In my case, I've always worked for start-ups, and start-ups really, really value people who have 'start-up experience'. So, even if you're a junior, if you've worked in a similar environment even with a different skill-set, it can be extremely advantageous if you're changing your discipline. At the end of the day, UX/UI designers (product designers) are 'problem solvers' - it's not just about learning how to arrange pixels on a screen, it's becoming an architect. That involves a TON of different skills from various disciplines, which is why (to Ran's point) bootcamps make it tough for juniors to then land jobs. Bootcamps don't teach designers about the 10 other skills they need to be successful (how to understand engineers, how to deal with a non-linear design process, how to deal with limited resources, etc...). If you like UX/UI, don't let this discourage you! It's just super important to build up a complete picture of what the UX/UI/Product design discipline involves, and then show a potential employer that you have those skills, either through a portfolio or previous experience. Hope that helps :)
Thank you for the video!! I`m an enginner and currently I`m trying to change carrer. My initial plan was to switch to graphic design but with the progress of AI it`s king of demotivating. Second though was UI/UX design but I see now a lot of people not encouraging this field. I`m back to have a feeling that I`m lost and stuck with something I really don`t like doing :/
I feel you. It's the same here:/
Same
if you want to touch someone’s life from the other side of the world, please say something. Can AI end this proffesion within 10 years? I am 23 years old. I wanted to be a graphic designer, but ı gave up after AI. I love design and human relationships, and ı have skills in quick understanding, planning and execution. What kind of profession should ı choose? I will take a screenshot of everyone’s answers and keep it on my wall as a memory 😂
Just recently lost my job as a junior product designer for a small design agency. Luckily I had another job on the side that was able to hire me full time. I feel incredibly lucky since a lot of my old very talented classmates still don't have one. It's a rough market indeed, hopefully it gets better in the future.
Wait what is the difference between ui ux vs Web design? Aren't they doing the same thing?
I did an online UI/UX design boot camp and I can't find a JNR UI/UX design job.
Is your portfolio good and how many jobs are you applying to a day?
Great video. I spent about 8000 hours on web design and development in the past few years, including obtaining a diploma from a respectable college and I gave up on trying to find a job in this field. I was able to score a few freelance jobs, but I could only keep looking so long before I realized it was just not going to happen. Then, I switched to being an ESL teacher and I started making a decent living right away.
I've just finish a half year course, and I'm really scared to read it😢
I disagree UI/UX design has essentially become 'product Designer' the market is saturated with those roles
I actually wanted to delve into it but I guess I'm not now .
I've spoken to a few recruiters who have told me that they post entry level/junior UX Designer job postings with the full intent of hiring someone with a senior background. They're getting thousands of applicants per job posting, and a lot of them are very experienced designers willing to work for a junior salary just to have a job, because they know how scarce and competitive it is right now.
Do you think this is a recession problem that will get ironed out when the economy levels out? Or is this just the new, permanent reality for UX?
Oh wow! That’s dirty and totally unfair to people looking for work. No wonder why I keep hearing people say to negotiate their pay during interviews.
Hey ran ! Im a sr product designer and i have also YT designer audience! I agree that the ratio of in house design hire and the entire team is very low. I often see one designer : 50 team members. Also often product designers are required to know more skills in this market. I agree that making websites is super fun and help people get jobs :)
What’s the difference between ux/ui and web design?
its about evolving , what type of Ui/Ux designers or designers do they need now and go that way, the tech industry is always evolving you just have to keep up.
The UX design job market is just stabilizing. Ppl were so focused on following hundreds of designers with no real background besides visual design maybe, for example. But visual design is not the only thing that matters when getting into the product design job market. Once when it was so popular during the beginning of the 20's, everyone was going on the UI trend completely excluding the quality UX, thanks to "design influencers". And those who got Jr jobs during those years, the UI/UX Design boom are now being targeted for layoffs, cuz they don't bring a significant value to company business. And now those design influencers are being targeted as well due to lack of qualifications. That's why I think we are headed more towards the stabilized Product Design market in the future and less layoffs happening.
I see the same, I was studying web development and I've seen lots of (from my perspective) bad developers and awful designers. There's a lot of website that just don't look good or doesn't takes seriously what the users need and now the companies are dealing with the result of hiring ppl with the knowledge but maybe not the talent. Like it happens in every businesses when it grows considerably in a short time as it happened with the tech industry since the covid.
Bro for the first time in my life i decided that this can be a great field for ne and now im finding all this thing I don't what to do know if no uiux designer , i dont wanna become an engineer should I persue uiux or is there any other field i can join ?
Me too same situation :D I have plenty of time to learn sth new
As a senior level web designer that also writes front end, with 17+ years experience the job market is terrible. I've applied to over 500 jobs since March 1st and have not had one call back.
What would you recommend then for people looking to go into design? I’m in a UX UI certification program at a university and I’ll be done in 3 months.
learn app design but focus more on web design and add to it some front end through your years of learning to become more valuable. apps are not as big as websites and the market in web design is bigger than that in app designing so learn both but focus the most on web UI ux design
Help your friends and family who needs stuff - web sites, social media assets, branding…
What exactly is the difference between web design and ux design?
I thought web design was HTML, CSS and JavaScript
just finished training as a ux designer. Same story, I have no experience, so no one will hire you. But I found a place where I can go to say that for an internship for 3 months, so maybe they will hire me
Imagine a front end developer who can also do ux design,
why would company hire 2 when 1 works!
usually that person would do both at a mediocre level. It's not impossible but it's always better to have a team of specialists than generalists
@@BrialMusic Any good UX developer can learn front end development. And any programmer can learn graphics designing.
I agree that most of front-end developers wouldn't be no more good to ux designing than ux designers at coding but only few designers required and I am sure in today's world, such people exist.
also, A good programmer who is proficient at UX design would also be aware of DX and if the design is practical from the pov of developer.
how about UX job that isn't in the tech industry, good bad? who knows on that front.
Everyone’s saying how hard it is find jobs after finishing a boot camp but no one is mentioning freelancing. It’s what I did after boot camp to get real client experience and I have no college degree and landed a job a year and a half after applying
where did you find your freelancing work?
@@greenteasister upwork, fivver and ppl messaging me directly from my portfolio site they found on my social medias
I think UX design has turned into UX writing and I don't know about you, but writing ISNT my strength, in fact Im terrible at it. A lot of companies used to think they needed a UX designer but they can't utilise your skill day to day so like Ran said, they drop you to save money. This happened to me twice in my career. So now UX is my secondary skill. UI is your new primary skill, also you should now learn either JS, react, Vue, php, weblfow. It may take a while but it's better for the long run.
Good note!
@@FluxAcademyHi buddy your video's are awesome... I'm a graphic designer but I don't know any coding languages i wanna become a UI UX designer...I'm learning Figma and XD please advise me what I have to learn extra. I don't intrested in coding languages.... please help buddy😊
So plumbing then
I went through a boot camp for Uiux and I have applied to over 400 jobs over the last year. No bites, I’m done playing this game. I guess I’m just doomed to break my back in a factory.
well I don't know if I can say this and maybe this massage it's not our case but as designer if I take project from freelancer or i want to work in company they said two thing
what program that you gonna use?
how much do have experience?
now here is big problem if you using html CSS they don't hire unless you use JavaScript or they want for example NodeJS instead of using other program if you use Figma 100% you can't get any work(this case is in my country)
listen this is not our case it's not about Ai taking our job or we can find job we need to have some experience to start job I mean come on I can create beautiful website everyone can do it even if you don't know coding you will use 3d to make everything simple but my opinion if you don't know about database and most important code for your website than I will say it in just one word the website is simple I don't know about UI/ UX but design Need more coding program need more option and be creative so keep this in your mind brothers and Good Luck
What do you work as now ?
Can you just be a web designer or do you need to know how to do logo's for brands?
You can just be a web designer, absolutely.
@@FluxAcademy@FluxAcademy Hi buddy your video's are awesome... I'm a graphic designer but I don't know any coding languages i wanna become a UI UX designer...I'm learning Figma and XD please advise me what I have to learn extra. I don't intrested in coding languages.... please help buddy😊
@@m.v5792bro is taking bachelor in uiux is good will we get job after that
What about game UI design?
That's a good way to specialize too.
Game Over for all of us graphic designers...AI has arrived. Make a video on the AI impact on the future job prospects, if any, on creative professionals.
This is simple economics. I don’t know why most content creators understand this.
On youtube this profession looks like free bread for everyone. Lowest barrier for entry. So supply skyrocketed 🚀 everyone is now Ui Ux designer …
I actually think you cant be a good UX UI designer without knowing web design first.
Of course there aren't many opportunities in UX/UI right now, but that is also the truth for web designers. If you're going to say that doing web design/development has so much more opportunities you should back it up with data and stats, not only from your personal experience. This video just sounds like self promo without a real foundation for your arguments
sell us courses how to find a job!
Don’t see that happening soon, but maybe one day!
@@FluxAcademy Hi buddy your video's are awesome... I'm a graphic designer but I don't know any coding languages i wanna become a UI UX designer...I'm learning Figma and XD please advise me what I have to learn extra. I don't intrested in coding languages.... please help buddy😊
Great info, agree with all you say. The sound effects on the video are a bit annoying... turn them down and I might subscribe ;)
Noted!
so can you give us the best skill to learn !
if ui/ux not worthy and waste of time i'm lost and iwont waste my time doing smthing for nothing
This is why I love the average layman 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is game over, AI is doing everything now!
AI won't be able to do user interviews and find solutions to human problems. UX is still going to be heavily influenced by humans because we understand the human nature the best
Nah
@FluxAcademy i have a Ux friend designer with 20 years experience ann he was fiered past month due to AI, just wait you will feel it soon ebough!
So why not work within the AI industry as a UX or tech professional. I keep seeing that AI will replace a lot of jobs in the tech sector, and I agree with this sentiment. But, why can't we then transition our skills to working with those companies that are designing the AI? Someone has to create the user faces and do the research for specialized AI programs and chat wrappers. I think the market will change drastically, but I don't think that means it is dead.
You never gave a clear solution on this.
There may not necessarily be one. Sometimes, the market just isn't very ideal for certain jobs, and it just had to be ridden out until it starts looking better again.
The real solution is to wait for the job market to settle down. The competitive job market is not within our control, and our best option is to change course into a related and less saturated (and probably lesser paid) careers.
I find this video very confusing
Why?
isn't web design a part of UI UX Design??@@FluxAcademy
Well the internet is petty Predictable at this point.
Create the Problem then Provide the solution.
I predict that Flux academy got a new $700 course coming up soon.
Place your bets people.
Was going to say EXACTLY this. I have read many blogs and articles recently talking about tech layoffs and UX Design and still they all say it is a promising and growing industry still to this day and will continue into the future despite all the noise saying otherwise. It's funny that the gurus on TH-cam discouraging people nonstop all have a course that they offer as the solution, so pathetic. And another thing I realized is they say this because the current job market, but how are we to know what it will be like in a year from now? Or 2 or 3 years if there is a bounce back with economic growth? I can't stand TH-camrs that make stuff like this for content. I have another one in mind but I won't name him
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I just lost my job today 😂😂
Sorry to hear that. Keep moving forward. 💪
Because i don’t like UX.